Finally got my One a Day Women. Since there's folic in it, will it be enough or should I take more supps ?
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Finally got my One a Day Women. Since there's folic in it, will it be enough or should I take more supps ?
So now I'm on One a Day women (finally!) and omega 3. I wonder if I can up my vitD to 2000 IU since the first bottle I bought before receiving my order of One a Day is still half-full ? I don't want to overdo things either.
I've seen that One a Day contains folates and all, is that enough or should I still take folic supps ?
Also I've been wondering about iron supps. I still have some left from my last pregnancies, 80mg pills... Is it too much ? Since I drink tea and have always been anemic because of AF and not eating meat and such before... DH tells me that iron supps are badly assimilated into the body anyway and I'd better get more iron through diet but I'm hesitating.
The more I sway, the more I believe that having girls had to do with both our one attempt and my poor condition vits/minerals-wise at the time so I don't want my body to think I'm unhealthy anymore. :worry:
Why don't you compromise and take an extra vitamin D 2-3 times a week in addition to the One a Day until they're used up? that way you'll be getting some extra, they won't be wasted, but it won't be such a sky high amount (it is saved up in your body!)
I like you guys to take folic acid or folate to equal 2000 mcg for blue sways.
The lower dose iron like the 80 mg type are better assimilated than those in the hundreds of mg. Let's do the same with the iron, since iron overdose can be harmful...just take them 2 days a week. That way you'll be getting some extra without going overboard with them.
And back again ! :running:
When you say folic 2000mcg, is it 2000 mcg a day ? It seems huge and I can't find that dose anywhere. It's only given for treating some digestive illnesses. Was told that 500mcg/day was enough since I have had much stress for months now.
On that note, what effect does stress have on a blue sway ? I've always heard that stress could sway pink and I'm afraid it could hurt my sway.
Just to make it short, I was assaulted in February by a mentally ill neighbour in front of my girls (didn't know she had psychological troubles, noone warned me and she seemed normal enough, I liked talking with her)... I've had a hard time coping ever since : nightmares, agoraphobia... I don't take any meds for that, had started swaying and didn't want to change my plans. I'm still afraid though because even though she moved after the incident, I'm told she might escape sentence on the grounds of her mental illness and the fact there were no other witnesses on that day.
So idk, I want to prevent failing my sway because of all that stress. I thought about TTC next year but we do have other plans that may make it difficult to start a pregnancy way into 2019. And I don't want that woman's actions to weight on our lives anymore than they already do. I'm still following the diet, try to rest, do some breathing exercises... It helps and I hope it's enough but if you have any other ideas to help reduce stress (or nutrients loss because of it), I'm all ears.
And up ! DH has come down with a fever ! :worry: We still have one month left before our first attempt but now I'm really worried ! Will it hurt our sway ? :nails:
Thanks for bumping this, I'd started to answer but I think it got closed and then I forgot I hadn't replied yet.
Yes, it's 2000 mcg a day. This is what I have all blue swayers take. Some of us actually are given 4000-5000 mcg a day if we have a history of neural tube defects. Yes I know some places say to take only 400-500 a day, but the many pregnancy experts say 800-1000 mcg is better (and that is without swaying!). I personally conceived a baby with spina bifida taking 800 a day and eating a very healthy diet besides so I prefer you guys take at least 1000. You can just take the 500 more than one time, so in the morning, lunch, and night.
Oh gosh that sounds like a terrible ordeal for you! Some things are just out of our control and we shouldn't worry about how they affect our sway. We can't control what has happened, so focus on the parts of your sway you CAN control. Diet, exercise, supplements - we KNOW those things will sway blue for you, so focus on that. We honestly can't know if that stress would affect your sway either negatively or positively so just focus on the parts of your sway you can affect.
How high a fever??? I think a month is plenty of time for him to recover from that if he's on multivitamins and doing regular release, but if it's very high you may want to give it another month.
Hi thank you for answering !
It was a fever of 102°f but it is already going down. He has taken one or two pills of paracetamol. Still trying to put him on multivitamins but we are doing the regular release.
Found a vitB sups with 1000µ B12 et 368µg B9 et 2000µg B6, is it good ?
And bump !
DH says he has a bit of a cough so now he is taking antibiotics :rolleyes: I'm starting to wonder if he's trying to sabotage our TTC attempt... Although he did say yes, he only wanted two children originally.
Still doing the regular release though.
GRR this did not post for some reason, still here in autosave.
Oh good just keep him on the paracetemol till he's better.
I would rather you just took more than one pill of the B9. By taking them with the additional B vitamins you can end up getting too much of those. And theB9 is better used by the body when you take smaller amounts more often, so morning, noon and night, for example.
The old school sway gurus claimed antibiotics swayed blue anyway.
Here's the thing - not I nor anyone can really know if this is a good month for you guys. Ask yourself, if you will regret it forever it you try this month and get a girl (blame DH, etc). In that case then maybe it's better to wait. I don't personally think you need to wait, but you need to do what you can live with in terms of walking away from this feeling like you have given it your best effort. But do try to keep in mind that for all we know this may be a great month for you to have a boy, and another month, something else may happen that could be even worse!
I hope he's feeling better very soon!
THAT exactly ! I get the same feeling. IDK if it's good or bad, my gut-feeling tells me I should try this month already because the sooner the better... and like you said, nothing guarantee we won't have other problems next month, or even next year...
Diet-wise and all, I feel like a lot of things changed already and my body seems to respond. I just hope it will be good enough.:pray:
Sounds good to me!! Sending you tons of blue dust!
I found some prenatal for men, wanted to quickly check if it was ok, looked fine to me :
Conceptio
Powder to dilute in water :
L-carnitine - 3g
Saccharose - 1,1g
Zinc - 10mg
Selenium - 50mcg
+ Pills :
Fish oil - hard to see but it looks like it's over 1000mg with DHA 800mg
CoQ10 - 30mg
VitE - 12mg
VitB6 - 1,4mg
And bump !
Also, I've seen that post by Panther and you about fish oil supps and how it can thin blood, lower cholesterol and cause opposites :worry:
I've been taking 1000mg/day for a month now. Should I rather take it every 2 days ? I have high levels of cholesterol so I thought it would still be okay but now I have doubts...
Bump my other post didn't work, wonder why :rolleyes:
Only one week before TTC. I've seen a post by Panther about too much fish oil/day that could thin blood, lower cholesterol and cause opposites in people swaying blue. A bit worried now cause I've been taking 1000mg a day this last month :worry:
I have high levels of cholesterol (not good) and I rarely eat fish so maybe it's okay ?
That is a massive amount of carnitine and B6 I think it's too much. I would not give him that.
I'm so sorry I missed that post, thanks for the bump!
Yes I'd like you to drop down to every other day on the fish oil from now on. We don't even know that cholesterol has anything to do with it, I just feel like we were seeing too many opposites for a while there and some of the people who got opposites were on a very high dose of both EPO and fish oil and so it makes sense to me for us to drop EPO (which most everyone has) and cut back on fish oil. :)
Ok so less fish oil from now on. A bit disappointed for DH, there's so few things for men here, it's like... men are strong, they don't need vits and never get sick, it's all a girl thing :mad: He has only taken a few pills recently so it should be okay ?
He has enough of a good diet but pretty sure he is missing out on some vits. Should I keep him on vitD though ? He has been taking 1000UI once a day like me. I guess it's the most he can do for now.
I'm getting confused about BD. For now we are doing the every 2-4 days. Now that there's only one week left (more or less) before OPK+ we have BD two times already (yesterday and the day before) cause husband is very in the mood :running: I don't want to tire him out but what should we do for that last week ? I've read that BD everyday before the fertile window is not a good idea for blue because it could deplete husband before the egg comes ? He claims he is not tired :think: but I don't want him to be virtually weak and sterile when OPK+ will be there.
That's really weird, I wonder why some of my posts do appear and others do not ! It has happened a lot lately...
Anyway, I'm keeping DH on vitD if the other supps are not good.
Also I was wondering, since DH is totally in the mood this month, we have been BD quite a bit. We still try to keep the every 2-4 days frequency but we DTD today and yesterday. But I don't want to tire him out before OPK+ which should appear in more or less 5 days. Not sure what to do now...
Only 4 days or so before OPK+ :omg:
I do it that way deliberately because first of all, many men will not even take stuff so it's a huge fight over nothing. Because second of all, supplements really have not worked well for men. Both for pink and for blue swayers, they have not seemed to help sways (which makes sense because it's our bodies who must carry that baby for 9 months) and so it is silly to have a fight with him over that because it makes him less likely to do the things that REALLY do make a difference - like stopping smoking, which is the single best thing he can do. Husbands very often get annoyed and will start doing things to undermine the sway when we ask them to do too much, so I prefer asking them to do the minimal amount of things that really do help instead of making them take tons of pills which many of them won't do anyway.
I am unclear, though - he can still take some supplements, just not those particular ones you were planning on giving him. He should be taking a multivitamin, a lower dose of fish oil like you (like 500 a day), YES the 1000 IU Vit. D, carnitine and arginine but just NOT that super high dose (500-1000 mg instead of 3 g!!) and 100 mg Coq10. I feel like we are having a misunderstanding where because I did not like that particular type of vitamin, you have taken that to mean that he shouldn't take anything, but it is still good to give him those things.
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Thank you atomic for all the replies ! It seems the problem is still there sadly :worry: I will let you know about it but it's true the timing couldn't be worse :giggle: so many questions !
It's alright I understand completely why you said the other supps were not good, I didn't know it was such high amounts. It's marketed towards all men who wish to start TTC a child but I wonder if it wouldn't be better for men who have trouble conceiving. I do know these pills are known for having helped many a man with bad quality sperm over the years...
Anyway, husband is ok with fish oil and vitD only. I didn't find anything else. We don't fight about it, if anything he is the one mocking all my pills since I never was a supps' girl before. But he is VERY happy about the every other day BD... It's true we were pretty absitnency before, my fault really, got that bad habit from my ex who was always out of town for weeks at times.
So we're still on every 2-3 days for BD, quietly and waiting for OPK+... Planning to DTD the night of first OPK+, the morning after and the following night like recommended. And maybe next day if DH has any strenght left. It def should be ok since he doesn't have to work on these days, lucky !
I'll just keep checking this thread every day so I can approve anythign you post. You can also PM me if you post anywhere else (like in a support thread where I don't always read them) and I'll approve it.
1)The unfortunate thing is that many herb sellers will sell things that are very likely harmful and there's really no oversight on them so we can't always rely on them to only sell things in safe amounts. So some of the people who were taking them actually WERE harmed by them, very likely, it's just that many times people can overcome harmful things and get lucky and still conceive with them. Others may have had such low testosterone that the higher amounts would have not had as negative an effect. What I do know is, time after time, the people who come to me having trouble conceiving are the people taking massive doses of nutrients so I think it's best for you guys to stick to a sane and healthy dose instead of the really high doses.
2)Perfect! Yes I do like you guys to keep going for a day or so after the O-1 and O Day attempt in case ovulation is delayed by a day or so.
I was wondering about OPK since I need to buy some more soon... I use the simple Clearblue, the one which detects only the LH surge. I've seen and heard about the other one who gives you fertile days and peak days... Is one better than the other ? Cause OPK+ is solid smiley, right ? So as soon as mine flashes its smiley it's all good to go ? Don't want to be late to the party :giggle:
Huh that's weird, I should've got OPK+ today but my tests all come back negative. If I'm delayed, what should I do ? I can't have DH abstain but if he releases today and OPK+ gets there say, tomorrow or the day after, won't he be tired ?
It is up to you about whichever you find easier.
Some people like the warning that the other Clearblue gives. It works for some people, for others it adds more confusion.
Flashy smiley is not positive, only the solid non-flashing smiley is positive. :)
We need to have DH release now. Don't worry about him getting tired, it takes 7-10 days of release to deplete sperm count and even that really doesn't sway pink (we tried that as a pink sway tactic but got poor results with it.)
Still neg this morning, I'm astounded. To think it would happen this month too ! I try not to worry but it's hard... Sometimes I'm afraid it happened sooner but I doubt it. Usually if something disturbs O, it's late, not the other way around. It's true I was stressed out at the start of the month, had to plan a friend's wedding then had troubles with my train and missed the wedding entirely :sad: And got into a fight with my mother-in-law a few days later... but never thought this would be enough to throw the whole cycle in disarray ! Ah yes and that heat wave did not help, sure...
Now just worried I'll miss the window somehow and only get one attempt in :worry:
I would have a couple attempts anyway just in case the tests aren't detecting the surge but keep testing!
Sometimes stress, even seemingly minor, does delay ovulation. I have noticed (several times, sigh!!) that between our Thanksgiving holiday and Christmas shopping and preparations that my ovulation can be delayed and then I end up almost always getting my period right on the holidays! It's happened SOOOO often that I pretty much expect it by this point! :/
Thank you it's a bit reassuring to hear :kissy:
Haha I feel you, I've heard about this whole "periods that delay right on holidays". Never happened to me in winter but it did happened for summer holidays and it's a bummer having AF starts while you're enjoying the sea :giggle:
I've already had late O's (twice this year alone, well before starting the diet) but I usually needs a major change or trauma hence my surprise this time around. But I do admit I had some pretty bad nights because of the stress, the travels and heat this month so lack of sleep alone may have done it.
I'll carry on with the tests (still neg this afternoon). It should have been O-1 today (O has been on the 30th for the last six months). Should I get the couple attempts there ? We already BD yesterday night just in case OPK was a false neg (which I doubt but you never know)...
Still neg as of this morning. I'm wondering if I'll even O this month at this rate :omg:
Agh sorry just got to this post!
Yes do go ahead and ahve a couple attempts when you normally get O (or ASAP since we are past that now) just in case we're getting false negatives. They do sometimes give false negatives)
I think it's most likely your O is delayed. It will still happen, just may be off a week or so (and then your period will come late as well in that case.)
ARe you eating a lot of simple carbs like candy, bananas, bread? we may want to cut back somewhat on those.
Okay, will do tonight. We DTD on the 28th, the 29th already but nothing on the 30th since DH was feeling unwell and tired because of the heat.
About carbs ? Hm no ? At least not what you mentionned... I did have some chips lately because we had been eating outside a lot while out of town (at friends' or at pubs). But other than that I tried to stay close to the diet : cereals in the morning (crunchy oat with red berries), meat twice a day with either pasta, lentils or beans, fruits (mango), chestnuts (a bit more than usual, could it be that ?) and fruit juices (blueberry, orange, grapes, apple + coconut water). Even at the heat wave peak, when not too hungry, I made a point of eating meat. I've had more potatoes lately, maybe that ? I've eaten some that are mashed with eggs then fried. Buy them all made and just heat them a bit in the oven. Thought it would give me a bit eggs since I have trouble eating them.
DH blames the heat (no AC). It started a week ago and peeked just before O so...
As for BD for now we've had :
July 16th right at the end of AF
The 19th and 20th if memory serves right.
The 23rd
The 25th
28th and 29th
31st today.
I hope it at least amounts to a good number of attempts to raise fertility.:fx:
:agree: Ok good I'd have had u take that day off anyway.
Re the carbs - it sounds like you're doing just fine, keep doing what you've been doing. What I wanted to be sure of was that you weren't eating tons of bananas and so on on top of your HE Diet. People will often decide "well, I'll do everything in BOTH diets" plus keep going with their normal habits of candy/cookies/cakes and then they end up eating 4000 cals a day and tons of carbs. This can make some people who are prone to PCOS, have delayed ovulation. But I don't think that is what is happening here.
:agree: yes you've had a wonderful amount of attempts, keep going with every other day and then hit it with 3 attempts at pos OPK when you get one.
Oh glad to hear that, it's a bit reassuring.
I used to try and have bananas at first but don't like them much and my girls kept stealing them to snack :giggle: plus my doc did say any fruit was fine and I happen to like mango more. Hate candy and as for cookies/cakes I stopped them when I started the diet, knew I would gain anyway through meat and fruits and didn't want to add more weight on top of that. So bye cakes, maybe one day :drama:
4000 cals :worry: ! Nah I couldn't, :nails:, rest assured I won't ever go near that amount even for a DS ! When you know that in France a healty non-preg woman is told not to go above 1200 cals, 1800-2000 already seems like Mt Everest to me :omg:
Mango is WAY better for blue than bananas! :agree:
OMG OPK+ can't believe it !!!!!! We already kinda BD yesterday though, hope DH will be ok ?
WhatdoIdowhatdoIdowhatdoIdo ? :running: Wonder if there's something more that I could try. Didn't find preseed but I don't think it would have helped, DH says I'm already all kind of slippery so don't want any sperm to fall out :giggle:
Soo at least 3 attempts right ? That night, morning after and night after ? And maybe day after if possible ? And then 2WW.:think: