TTC Girl - June 2012

[Lassie1982]

I couldn't find a June thread so i started one :)

AF showed 4 days early so Im a June TTC Girl....

I posted the below as a separate post in the private sections, but if you don't see it and have some input please help with my sway for this month....i really need help....

So after our 4th failed cycle DH is really impatient and just wants to get pregnant.

The sway so far has been
LE Diet
Vitex
Peppermint Tea
LR for DH
Rephresh
Zrytec
Sylk (dropped for last 2 months)
DH HOT baths (dropped last cycle)
i DONT jump and Dump - in fact i lie there for 30mins with pelvis elevated.
8-10 FR followed by 4-5 DTD.
The DTD schedule has been pretty much: O-2, O-1, O, O+1, O+2.


DH is convinced that we have failed because of all the FR. He says that when we DTD it just dribbles out.

So how should we structure the BD so as to still try and have a good sway??

Generally we DTD once of twice a week, DH is happy to have increased frequency of DTD around O...but no FR, no 'wasted' sperm at all. He has said that if he ejaculates its gong in me and staying in me!

Please give me some advice as I am really at a loss as to what to do.
Im worried that if he doesn't FR and we just DTD say 5-6 times, because of the lack of FR we will definitely have boy sperms.

He also wants me to drop the refresh.

Any suggestions / recommendations are welcome as Im lost as to what to do this month.

[dramabird]

Lassie, how long have you been using the Vitex? I know that Atomic has said it can act almost like birth control after a certain point -- she stopped taking it right before the cycle she got pg with her dd. As for me, I had been taking it for 3 months straight, then another three months of af thru o, so I dropped it this cycle too (altho I do not know the result yet). Maybe something for you to consider?

GL!!!

[KraizyDaizy]

Hi ladies! BFPS all around in June!!!!

[zanacal]

Good luck ladies!

[suregena]

I'm going to need luck at this rate... another long-long cycle happening. :(

[lightofmylifexxxy]

Hi Girls, mind me jumping in? I am ttc pink too. Am currently in the 2ww (3dpo). I dropped sylk and zyrtec this month, as haven't managed to get pg last 2 cycles. BD'd 0-3,0-2, 0-1. No FR as my hubbie is over 40, and i am late 30's! Need some swimmers to get there! I O'd early this cycle, but still managed a bit of a cut off! Now just the waiting game.
Lassie so sorry to hear AF came early (I know the feeling) - Maybe it is the FR making it harder to get pg? I'm no expect of course! But in my case, both my last pregnancies were 1 shot wonders!!! And now I'm having trouble even with multiple attempts each month! Only time will tell this month! If i don't get pg this month, then next month I am going to have 1 attempt only and see if that works!!
Good luck to you all xxx

[Lassie1982]

Lassie, how long have you been using the Vitex? I know that Atomic has said it can act almost like birth control after a certain point -- she stopped taking it right before the cycle she got pg with her dd. As for me, I had been taking it for 3 months straight, then another three months of af thru o, so I dropped it this cycle too (altho I do not know the result yet). Maybe something for you to consider?

GL!!!

I have been on the vitex for 5 months, AF-O. (its actually done wonders for my af, its lighter then ever, and no cramps!)
I never knew it could almost be birth control like!
I reckon i will go one more cycle with the vitex, and then drop that aswell if the we fail again.

[Lassie1982]

Hi Girls, mind me jumping in? I am ttc pink too. Am currently in the 2ww (3dpo). I dropped sylk and zyrtec this month, as haven't managed to get pg last 2 cycles. BD'd 0-3,0-2, 0-1. No FR as my hubbie is over 40, and i am late 30's! Need some swimmers to get there! I O'd early this cycle, but still managed a bit of a cut off! Now just the waiting game.
Lassie so sorry to hear AF came early (I know the feeling) - Maybe it is the FR making it harder to get pg? I'm no expect of course! But in my case, both my last pregnancies were 1 shot wonders!!! And now I'm having trouble even with multiple attempts each month! Only time will tell this month! If i don't get pg this month, then next month I am going to have 1 attempt only and see if that works!!
Good luck to you all xxx

DH is convinced its the FR that is making us fail....and there is no convincing him otherwise. He is flat our refusing to do it any more (a bloke refusing to have a w*** or be given a couple of b*** jobs- who'd have thought? LOL)

[KraizyDaizy]

CD13 and I am just winging it this time. NO OPK's, NO TEMPING, & NO MONITOR...crazy huh? I am trying to use my cervix, CM, & pains to pinpoint O based on my past charts. This morning I had EWCM which I hardly ever have, but this is the cycle after stopping Clomid, so maybe that is why. I am thinking I am Oing today or tomorrow, so attempting tonight with Preseed. It will be a miracle if I get a BFP in June....

[dramabird]

I have been on the vitex for 5 months, AF-O. (its actually done wonders for my af, its lighter then ever, and no cramps!)

I experienced the same thing. My period was astonishingly light ... like, one tampon a day for three days, and that was it. It started to make me concerned that maybe a hearty enough uterine lining wasn't building up (or something) and preventing anything from sticking?

Here's Atomic's personal Vitex piece from her stealth pink sway info: Taking Vitex for 6 months before I conceived 2 W on, 2 W off. I wasn't doing this for swaying, it was because I had no sex drive (which was one major sticking point between DH and I) and I had read vitex could help - if anything, it made it worse!! I stopped it the month before I got pg firstly because my sex drive was SO low it was nonexistent and I was pretty much fed up with DH anyway (really, he sounds horrible but he's a LOT better now!) Also, the month before and then the month I stopped the vitex, I had what seemed like it might have been a lame attempt at AF - a little bit of dark blood that lasted for a day but I didn't really think it was a true AF and thought I probably hadn't ovulated those two months, even tho I was crampy and had some EWCM - that had happened at other times when I was BF and they were fake Os. I was sort of concerned that my lining needed to slough off but the V was preventing it from happening, and so I stopped the vitex thinking I would have a real AF.

And I know that Atomic has cited some instances where women took Vitex for awhile and then, the month after they stopped, they conceived their DDs. Again, I don't know for me yet (I'm on CD14, but I have quite long luteal phases of 17 to 18 days, so I'm not due for AF yet), but it certainly might be something for you to consider if June doesn't work (but hopefully it does!!). My thought was, heck, if our noble leader Atomic did it (took Vitex and then dropped it), it can't be a bad strategy! :)

[HopeandDreamG]

Zanacal- baby's still snug in there... I can't believe it! Can't wait to hear about your beautiful baby girl ;)

I'm in 2WW right now. Praying I don't need to be in June ttc ahhhhhhhhh

[myGirl]

Yep, I have read that girls have gotten their BFP after stopping the Vitex. This month I quit Vitex and took soy from cd 3-7. I am currently 7 dpo... So we shall see!

I'm praying for BFPs for all of you:luck:


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[auroara78]

PINK DUST to all you ladies!!!

Lassie, I also think the Vitex could be acting as BC as well.

Hope, I do hope that June gives you a big BFP!!

KD, that sounds so promising about EWCM....maybe what AS said about the cycle after Clomid getting preggers will work for you!!

I am doing good, just tired! Was really loving the pink shopping but there is so much summer still out in the stores that I haven't gotten anything new since I found out...am going to wait until they roll out the Fall/Winter clothing to get serious about getting Lillian her own things!

DS2 is good, he turned 1 in late April and now he's doing this funny head shake thing and headbang thing when he gets happy and excited and is walking around...it's so cute. DS1 keeps telling me I'm very his best friend, and that just melts my heart. DS1 is having an issue with winning though, he wants to win every game he plays!

[suregena]

Yep, I have read that girls have gotten their BFP after stopping the Vitex. This month I quit Vitex and took soy from cd 3-7. I am currently 7 dpo... So we shall see!

I'm praying for BFPs for all of you:luck:


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I'm seriously considering this approach if I don't get anywhere this month... my fingers are crossed for you!

[mydream]

PRAYING for ALL of you!! for BFP's!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lassie1982]

I experienced the same thing. My period was astonishingly light ... like, one tampon a day for three days, and that was it. It started to make me concerned that maybe a hearty enough uterine lining wasn't building up (or something) and preventing anything from sticking?

Here's Atomic's personal Vitex piece from her stealth pink sway info: Taking Vitex for 6 months before I conceived 2 W on, 2 W off. I wasn't doing this for swaying, it was because I had no sex drive (which was one major sticking point between DH and I) and I had read vitex could help - if anything, it made it worse!! I stopped it the month before I got pg firstly because my sex drive was SO low it was nonexistent and I was pretty much fed up with DH anyway (really, he sounds horrible but he's a LOT better now!) Also, the month before and then the month I stopped the vitex, I had what seemed like it might have been a lame attempt at AF - a little bit of dark blood that lasted for a day but I didn't really think it was a true AF and thought I probably hadn't ovulated those two months, even tho I was crampy and had some EWCM - that had happened at other times when I was BF and they were fake Os. I was sort of concerned that my lining needed to slough off but the V was preventing it from happening, and so I stopped the vitex thinking I would have a real AF.

And I know that Atomic has cited some instances where women took Vitex for awhile and then, the month after they stopped, they conceived their DDs. Again, I don't know for me yet (I'm on CD14, but I have quite long luteal phases of 17 to 18 days, so I'm not due for AF yet), but it certainly might be something for you to consider if June doesn't work (but hopefully it does!!). My thought was, heck, if our noble leader Atomic did it (took Vitex and then dropped it), it can't be a bad strategy! :)

See - my body is confusing the buggery out of me now - somewhat like AS above.

My period is normally
heavy for half a day, normal for 1.5 days and very light for 1 day.

This month (i noted yesterday as CD1) i have only spotting for 2 days. NOt even enough to substantiate the use of a tampon or pad (i have had one in, but they are coming-out with just spotting)
whats going on?!?!?!?
Ive taken another 3 tests - as i am starting the peppermint tea and vitex again, and all 3 came out negative...so its NOT pregnancy...

sooooooooo confused

[suregena]

My last period (taking vitex) was SOOOO light.

Vitex, you weird!

[suregena]

I piggied out on food today at work... urgh! The guilt is immense! It's the Queens Jubilee thing here in England, which doesn't mean a whole lot for me as I'm American... but it was FOOD galore. I shouldn't have even glanced at the table, because when I did... I couldn't help myself! Lemon curd tarts, lemon meringue, sponge and jam cakes, paneer spring roll things, etcetera etcetera. Ohhh brother, fail.

I felt so guilty about the amount of stuff I ate, I was going to skip dinner. Then, I thought, that's silly and So I've opted for iceberg lettuce and mushrooms with a tablespoon of low fat sour cream and lemon juice. *shrugs* I really hope I've already ovulated... I'm scared to look at the scale tomorrow!

I hate you, delicious cakes and tarts!

[Lassie1982]

Don't feel bad suregena, I'm sure it wont have affected your sway at all :) we all pig out every now and again!
Sounds like you have a great shot this month, well done to your dh for all those attempts!!
I'm resetting my count to CD1 today, I finally have what I can call a 'flow'
Still externally light though! Lighter then ever! Vitex IS wierd!




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[amari]

Thinking of everyone and sending bfp vibes!!

[Babyy Love]

Well here we all are in June :)
Surgena I didn't know u were American cool! Skip Vitex your next cycle tho & let's see what happens & don feel guilty for treating urself every once in a while because we all deserve it sometimes

[Butterfly Spirit]

Well AF has arrived, and I'm sure i will have a flow by morning so I am CD1.

I just ordered a new batch of ovulation and pregnancy cheapie strips!
So it's ON! As soon as I verify a flow.. I will pOp the Vitex!

I guess my body needed this cycle right after my loss. :)

[Lassie1982]

Well AF has arrived, and I'm sure i will have a flow by morning so I am CD1.

I just ordered a new batch of ovulation and pregnancy cheapie strips!
So it's ON! As soon as I verify a flow.. I will pOp the Vitex!

I guess my body needed this cycle right after my loss. :)

Hi Cycle Buddy :) With any luck we'll be pregnancy buddies too :luck:

I got a proper flow this morning so re-adjusted today to be CD1.
Couple of changes to my sway this month so hoping this will be enough to tip the scales and finally get me a BFP

[suregena]

Don't feel bad suregena, I'm sure it wont have affected your sway at all :) we all pig out every now and again!
Sounds like you have a great shot this month, well done to your dh for all those attempts!!
I'm resetting my count to CD1 today, I finally have what I can call a 'flow'
Still externally light though! Lighter then ever! Vitex IS wierd!




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He's still going! :o We're still BDing (and he's still getting additional releases in...) until I'm SURE I've ovulated!

The past three days I've been cramping (like bowel movement cramps), having pinches, etcetera. We'll see.

I wonder if I ovulated on CD26... because CD25 I suddenly (with low temp) had fertile signs (globs of EWCM... soft/high/open cervix) and then CD26 I had a headache that lasted all night on CD25 and all day CD26 (maybe ovulating = hormones = headache?) but I no longer had fertile symptoms down there. THen, of course, CD27 I had my first proper temp spike which is more or less still up.

So, we'll see. We're still BDing in case, though.... I do NOT want to miss ovulation if I haven't already ovulated... I am determined to make the best of this month... long wacky cycle or not! BRING IT!

[suregena]

Well here we all are in June :)
Surgena I didn't know u were American cool! Skip Vitex your next cycle tho & let's see what happens & don feel guilty for treating urself every once in a while because we all deserve it sometimes


I never binge like THAT but it's that thing... when you're on a diet, suddenly you'll eat something (I did really good yesterday but then suddenly my body went, "OH MY GOD, MOOOOORE!!!!" and I sort of became a robot and followed all its orders... it was good, though... mmm....) and then you cannot stop and you eat more than you would have under normal circumstances. Sigh. But I DID calculate as best I could all I ate into myfitnesspal and hopefully, more or less still kept my day with 1200 to 1400 or 1500, so don't feel too guilty.

If this cycle does not work, I won't be doing vitex again, though I am curious about soy isoflavones!

Yep - I'm from Arizona! My hubby is British, hence why I am in England! :)

[suregena]

I've also had a bit of a breakout... I don't normally have that problem. :/

[ThroughWithBlue]

Ok, I figured you ladies may know the answer to this without me having to start a new thread. I post too many because I over analyze every little thing (boy mom thing!! lol).
For those who had muscle to lose, how long did it take and how did you know when you lost enough? I am very OCD about working out and have just about 6 days a week for 6 years so I have no idea what me without muscle is supposed to look like. I'm not BUFF just toned, my arms are toned and my legs are toned and light toned abs. So, I don't know what I'm aiming for or how long to guess it will take. Losing muscle will help me loads I think so this is really important to me. I'm doing the couch potato route which is likely going to kill me but I tried the 1 hr cardio 6x week and it made me gain muscle I swear it, even though I ate LE. I did it as a trial to see if it would make me lose muscle or not.
Military *may* move us near end of the year, no idea, so I'm trying to see if it's worth starting to try before end of year.

[pinkin2011]

Hi Lassie Just in response to your first post.. I had that trouble with my d/h when it came to the FR He was giving up on me and cracked it and said no more!!! So in the end I had i think it was 9 days of FR but then when it came to our attempt time he released in the am and then the pm and then we dtd for real 8 hrs after and I know his T levels were low because I had to get him to point of no return and then we dtd and I tell you It was a NIGHTMARE!! I was so lucky to fall preg from just dtd the once.. But I know what you are going through and yous can always try Compressed FR

[Lassie1982]

Thanks so much pinkin! Good to know my hubby isn't the only one struggling lol
I think compressed fr is the best we'll get, hopefully it will do the trick!

How's your pregnancy going?


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[HappyMedium]

Morning guys!!! Well...our attempt is in God's hands. i thought I O'd cd11..stopped opking. Had ewcm cd14 and cd20. wrote my notes in ff. Turns out I O'd cd20 )probably due to the estrogenic qualities of the stupid f-ing peppermint tea). All I can rely on now is my diet...and moon was cancer new waxing....lol dont think it matters. God's plan...not mine as we all see here. So today I am 8dpo and have a faint bfp on an answer...praying to God it is real. Oh, ended up with O+12

[KraizyDaizy]

Since I am not using any OPKs or temping, I am relying on my cervix. My dilemma is at we have on DTD a week ago, and my DH has been sick the past two days so we have been trying to DTD, but the kids keep interupting. I just don't think this month is my month, the month after stopping Clomid and I am so upset!!! I am still going to try to get him to try again tonight, but it just does not look good for me. Why is this happening to me.... I know I am not in control, but I just don't understand why things don't go as planned.

[mama2LB]

Hi ladies! I've been lurking for a while but thought it was time I said hello! We're not actually ttc until mid July but I've started my pink diet this week and i'm just trying to stay in the zone!
Good luck to you all who are ttc and lots of pink dust to you all x x x :ttcgirl:

[fish2012]

suregena, double bank holiday and LE diet just aren't compatable ;-) DH really wants a take away tonite! do feel mean, I think i'll put back on all i've lost in a few days once i'm preggie ;-0

[suregena]

suregena, double bank holiday and LE diet just aren't compatable ;-) DH really wants a take away tonite! do feel mean, I think i'll put back on all i've lost in a few days once i'm preggie ;-0

TELL ME ABOUT IT! Ugh! Haha!

Thankfully, my work binge didn't show up on the scale... I actually lost a little. *phew* That was a CLOSE one.

[Babyy Love]

I never binge like THAT but it's that thing... when you're on a diet, suddenly you'll eat something (I did really good yesterday but then suddenly my body went, "OH MY GOD, MOOOOORE!!!!" and I sort of became a robot and followed all its orders... it was good, though... mmm....) and then you cannot stop and you eat more than you would have under normal circumstances. Sigh. But I DID calculate as best I could all I ate into myfitnesspal and hopefully, more or less still kept my day with 1200 to 1400 or 1500, so don't feel too guilty.

If this cycle does not work, I won't be doing vitex again, though I am curious about soy isoflavones!

Yep - I'm from Arizona! My hubby is British, hence why I am in England! :)

Ohhh that's great though! I would love to live out of the states for a lil while. Sometimes we eat more because we need what we crave not only because we're greedy or its tasty that's what I learned and that's why sometimes I just go with the flow.

[pinkin2011]

Yes well It is sometimes our only option when the guys wont abstain or fr.. They can be real pains in the Bum cant they!!!
Pregnancy is going well thanks starting to grow a little bit now should start feeling some movement soon id say!!

[nuthinbutpink]

Hi ladies! I've been lurking for a while but thought it was time I said hello! We're not actually ttc until mid July but I've started my pink diet this week and i'm just trying to stay in the zone!
Good luck to you all who are ttc and lots of pink dust to you all x x x :ttcgirl:

Welcome!

[Babyy Love]

Yes well It is sometimes our only option when the guys wont abstain or fr.. They can be real pains in the Bum cant they!!!
Pregnancy is going well thanks starting to grow a little bit now should start feeling some movement soon id say!!


When do u find out watt ur having?

[pinkin2011]

On the 15th and I am crapping myself!!

[suregena]

Yesterday was supposed to be my period (that is... if this cycle had been normal! So not really!)

Still not sure if I've ovulated or not... waiting for fertilityfriend to say something.

My husband put on a late gig and I fell asleep and he came home with friends... and so I'm not sure if he released at all yesterday and we definitely didn't BD. :( I have to ask him when he wakes up if he did or didn't release on his own yesterday, but if he didn't then I guess we'll have to stop BDing?

I just hope I've already ovulated. :/

I've got what I think is Pericoronitis and the whole lower part of my left side of my face + my lymph nodes in that area are completely swollen. :( I couldn't sleep comfortably. Everyone is telling me to get antibiotics but I hear that's a no-no.

It feels a little better today, and as it's a bank holiday weekend, anyway, I'm just going to ride the pain out... with worthless paracetomol/tylenol.

[lightofmylifexxxy]

Since I am not using any OPKs or temping, I am relying on my cervix. My dilemma is at we have on DTD a week ago, and my DH has been sick the past two days so we have been trying to DTD, but the kids keep interupting. I just don't think this month is my month, the month after stopping Clomid and I am so upset!!! I am still going to try to get him to try again tonight, but it just does not look good for me. Why is this happening to me.... I know I am not in control, but I just don't understand why things don't go as planned.

I know what you mean KraizyDaizy. Things never go to plan for me either! I have it all mapped out and it never goes accordingly! Thats why i am taking a different approach next month if i don't get my BFP in June. Have a few symptoms, but really think its PMS ! Its funny how we can imagine every little twinge! Wishing you lots and lots of luck xx

[Lassie1982]

Yesterday was supposed to be my period (that is... if this cycle had been normal! So not really!)

Still not sure if I've ovulated or not... waiting for fertilityfriend to say something.

My husband put on a late gig and I fell asleep and he came home with friends... and so I'm not sure if he released at all yesterday and we definitely didn't BD. :( I have to ask him when he wakes up if he did or didn't release on his own yesterday, but if he didn't then I guess we'll have to stop BDing?

I just hope I've already ovulated. :/

I've got what I think is Pericoronitis and the whole lower part of my left side of my face + my lymph nodes in that area are completely swollen. :( I couldn't sleep comfortably. Everyone is telling me to get antibiotics but I hear that's a no-no.

It feels a little better today, and as it's a bank holiday weekend, anyway, I'm just going to ride the pain out... with worthless paracetomol/tylenol.


Could you be pregnant ? Its possible you missed ovulation (as is missed picking it up)
If AF should have arrived, i'd do a test :)
With the zillion attempts you did you have to have a very good chance!

:fx:

[Lassie1982]

On the 15th and I am crapping myself!!

Exciting!!! But i'd be crapping myself too :) How many boys do you have?

[suregena]

Could you be pregnant ? Its possible you missed ovulation (as is missed picking it up)
If AF should have arrived, i'd do a test :)
With the zillion attempts you did you have to have a very good chance!

:fx:


I think I might JUST because I had a queasy episode today and I started pondering that, too.

June 2nd was supposed to be AF day but I've ignored that completely because I think/thought(?) my O was super delayed (or perhaps it's still delayed...)

I'm currently not drinking anything and holding for the next couple hours and will give it a go.

My "symptoms" of late have been pinching/twinges, low cramping, bowel-type cramping, frequent urination, bloated, gas, break out (I don't do that normally), bad headache (I am prone to frequent migraines when pregnant, so who knows), and this evening I was queasy. I'm not reading anything into these things, of course, because I realize I am hyper-aware and also don't know where/what my body is doing (like LAST time I attempted to sway, urgh!)


Ho hum, I don't even know anymore. I'm just riding this out.

My hubby did indeed forget to release yesterday, ugh, but he's doing two releases today because I'm so fed up and just want to get pregnant (if I haven't ovulated yet...) that I figure a compressed FR after him missing a day is all right. *shrug*

Can you tell I'm over it? Heeh.

[maybeoneday]

Hi girls, I have been very quiet this month on the forums but still check it every now and again to check on you all!!!

As you probably guessed it was another BFN for me last month and that really bummed me out as thought I was in with a good chance. Anyway, having had a couple of weeks to sulk, I am due to ovulate this weekend and have had +OPKs yesterday and today. No idea if ovulated already so am continuing to BD through this month. Also ditched the FR as I think it is the main reason I have not conceived.

On a side note, we went to London to see the Queen on the boat pageant today and managed to see the whole royal family floating down the thames. My 4 year old was so excited to see her and had on his special jubilee jumper for the occassion. Got seriously wet in the rain but had a good day. Here is hoping it is a good omen for a BFP in a couple of weeks!

Suregena, I say test, you are in with a good chance. KD, try not to stress, I have everything crossed for you for this month, I know how much it meand to you. Pinkin, GL for the 15th, will be wearing pink for you.

Hi to everyone else. xx

[suregena]

I think I'm losing it... I swear I *see* a faint to the naked eye line. I'm kidding myself, but I don't know. Only time will tell!

[KraizyDaizy]

praying for you suregena!!!

[suregena]

Yeah, no WAY I'd get it on a picture... it's one of those tricky constantly holding up to a light, to a window, shadowing it, etcetera, thing. So, maybe all in my head/eyes--maybe not.
So I'll wait a few days more and see if anything happens. Obviously, whilst watching my temps still.

[Butterfly Spirit]

I think I'm losing it... I swear I *see* a faint to the naked eye line. I'm kidding myself, but I don't know. Only time will tell!

You might have what I call a ghost line sweetie!!! :)

I HOPE SO! :D

[Butterfly Spirit]

Yeah, no WAY I'd get it on a picture... it's one of those tricky constantly holding up to a light, to a window, shadowing it, etcetera, thing. ;) So I'll wait a few days more and see if anything happens. Obviously, whilst watching my temps still.

While holding it turn it towards yourself and then away from yourself...If there is any line, your eye will catch it!

[suregena]

While holding it turn it towards yourself and then away from yourself...If there is any line, your eye will catch it!

I did that and I swear I saw something! I might go do it again, ha.

[Lassie1982]

Ooooooo exciting suregena!!!
Try it in the morning with a frer!
Sounds like this could be it :)
*fx*




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[suregena]

I'm approaching this cautiously... not going to read anything into it yet since it's totally hard to see and could very well be my imagination!

[HopeandDreamG]

Happymedium- congrats!!! I think everyone missed where u said u got a faint bfp!!!!!!!!!!! hope it keeps getting darker

[Babyy Love]

On the 15th and I am crapping myself!!

Hmmph and I thought the cramping stopped by 4 months
I think it's super early for me tho to be having all these symptoms but I'm still gonna test tomorrow

[Lassie1982]

I'm approaching this cautiously... not going to read anything into it yet since it's totally hard to see and could very well be my imagination!

Good thinking! Make sure you keep us all posted though!!


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[suregena]

I had a really vivid dream last night! :( I don't know if that means anything or not. Didn't like it, though!

[KraizyDaizy]

HappyMedium, that faint BFP got darker? Praying for you!!!

[KraizyDaizy]

What are the odds of BFP with one good DTD way before O is expected. I think I Oed on cd14 but that is on a cycle with no OPKs or temping. Just wondering what your thoughts are.

[bigchrista]

Hi Ladies! I'm new to the site and am learning as I go along. There is so much info but am taking it all in a little at a time. I just got my First PPAF 2 days ago. I'm still Breastfeeding my 15.5 month old son. I'm slowing going to adjust my diet as I LOVE salt. I don't want to add anything that will harm my nursing boy.

HappyMedium- I hope that line is getting darker.

[dramabird]

All right, ladies, I took a test this morning ...

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:bigsmile:

[KraizyDaizy]

Congrats!!!!!!

[maybeoneday]

Congratulations Dramabird! That is an amazing line! How many DPO are you?

[atomic sagebrush]

Wahoo! That's GREAT! Makes my whole week! ;)

[Kiesse]

Huge Congrats to you!!! What a great line!

[KraizyDaizy]

Keissee, I absolutely love your ticker about Pamela Anderson LOL!!!!!

[Kiesse]

hunny, the way they are growing I FEEL like her! lol

[myGirl]

Wow dramabird, that is a DARK line!!! Congratulations!!!

[dramabird]

Congratulations Dramabird! That is an amazing line! How many DPO are you?

18dpo and the test was with first morning urine. I'm already queasy (and have been since at least 14dpo), so I wonder if there is a connection between the nausea/the dark line and my HCG levels? Hopefully it's a good thing!

My DH took me out to lunch today and I had a chicken breast sandwich ... first meat I've eaten in almost 160 days. :)

I will try to post my sway soon, but the two main things we dropped this time from our previous three cycles was Sylk (although we did use my saliva as lubricant) and Vitex (I took it AF-AF for three months and then AF-O for my first three attempt cycles). Everything else -- LE diet, FR for DH, baby aspirin, saw palmetto, etc. -- stayed on board. (Oh, I also didn't use any antihistamines -- but I had such little-to-no fertile-looking CM this month I don't think I would have used any even if I'd intended to.)

So I'm looking at you, Miss Lassie -- I'm wondering if no Vitex could be your magic trick, too, for finally getting pg? FX for you and everyone else here! I'm also watching that chart of yours, Surgena -- it looks very promising!!!

[suregena]

Congratulations!!!! Yay!

[amari]

Congratulations, dramabird!!

[Butterfly Spirit]

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Dramabird, What a WONDERFUL line on your HPT! :D

:running: Oh what a feeling!

[KraizyDaizy]

did u test again suregena?

[Mochagirl]

Dramabird - what an amazing line! Congrats on your BFP

Happymedium and suregena - have you tested again??

[HopeandDreamG]

Congrats dramabird!!! That's one fantastic line ;)

[suregena]

No, think I'm going to test again at the weekend. If I ovulated when I think I did/if I did... it is just so so early on.

Feel free to look at my chart below and give me any feedback. :D

[Lassie1982]

:cheer: Dramabird :cheer:

MASSIVE congratulations, so happy for you!!! Thats a superb BFP :)

Hopefully i won't be too far behind you - AS DH is refusing to FR, he had better be up for having MANY attempts - i need to get pregnant!

[Lassie1982]

No, think I'm going to test again at the weekend. If I ovulated when I think I did/if I did... it is just so so early on.

Feel free to look at my chart below and give me any feedback. :D

You've got the patience of a saint you have!!!!
if i saw so much as a glint of a line I'd be pee-ing on as many sticks as i could buy LOL

:fx:

[suregena]

It was barely a glint... if it's something only my eye can see and not a photo, I am going to stay cautious because my eyes could be tricksters! I could be wanting to see one so may be creating one in my head, haha. Though, I do hope I am.

[fish2012]

ah so exciting to hear other people trying now too, i'm new on here waiting for af to show up impatiently 1 day late think its the fenugeek i was taking! so taht we can have our fist try after 5 weeks on LE diet, just want to get on with it now and SIL getting married 15.06.13 so want to make sure lill lady is a few weeks old before then ;-0

fingers crossed lill lady or blue one number 3 ;-0

[auroara78]

Oh drama, sooooo excited for you!!!!!!!!!!!!

surgena, i hope you get a BFP soon too!!! will be stalking for an update over the weekend!!

[dramabird]

Oh drama, sooooo excited for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you very much. It's funny to feel happy about nausea, isn't it? :)

[auroara78]

I always took it as a sign the pregnancy was going as intended, so while I hated it, I kind of welcomed it too!!

Can't wait to read the full sway!

[suregena]

Since my first two pregnancies I lost had zero symptoms... I was so happy to be ill when I was pregnant the third time with my son. :)

That's one thing, though, I hope doesn't happen again. Repeated losses are hard/exhausting/heartbreaking. :(

[suregena]

Okay... now I can't stop test-sessing over that little random test I took... because I've been feeling headachey all afternoon/evening and I feel like I've had a massive burrito binge... I feel fat! Bloated and gas like whoa.

Do *YOU* see anything?

You really do have to try hard to see it. I had to get out my fancy Canon and macro lens to get it. iPhone would not do!

Am I crazy?


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[Mochagirl]

I think I can see something if I move back far enough from the screen. I hope this is it, suregena!!!!

[suregena]

It's SOOOOOOOO faint! It's like... when did I ovulate? What DPO am I? I have NO idea. I feel crazy but I swear I see something.

I haven't eaten dinner yet. I WAS going to have a plate of mushrooms and salad because someone baked cupcakes today and threw the word in, "ESPECIALLY for you, Gena!" (Gee, thanks... then I HAD to eat one!) so I feel really guilty because they were super fattening. So I had to run home and stare at it some more to see if I could feel more/less guilty or not. :P

[ILindGurl]

Kraizy -- I got pregnant at 36 yrs old with 1 dtd 5 days before expected O. It was such a shock, especially since we only had sex like twice that entire year, LOL (i'm exaggerating). So, yes it is definitely possible!! GL!

[Mochagirl]

Suregena - I wouldn't feel guilty about one cupcake - I ate a ton of cheesecake the week I O'd because it was Christmas and I needed a treat :oops: hopefully tomorrow you'll see a darker line and can eat whatever you want! I'd definitely get yourself a FRER if you can.

[suregena]

FRER - is that First Response? Those are hard to find here unless I order it online. :( I only have one clearblue - should I order an FRER also?

[Mochagirl]

FRERs tend to be the most sensitive tests out there, but if you have to special order it there's no point because within a few days any test should be able to pick up your BFP.

[Mochagirl]

And yes, FRER is First Response EArly Result :)

[Lassie1982]

i can see something very faint on the bottom one :)

promising!

[mama2LB]

Congratulations dramabird! Happy, healthy 9 months to you! x

[mama2LB]

I think I can see something Suregena when I tilt my screen backwards. I hope that's your bfp! x

[suregena]

Tricky, isn't it? Ha! It's funny, I've stared at it so much it gets more clear.

These symptoms are pretty good, though, I must say... they're really fooling me. Even feeling a mild tenderness around my boobs... so bloated, though. I hope these are all good signs. Sick of this headache today, though! That is what I went off work with the most my last pregnancy with my son - MIGRAINES! So I'm probably prone to them in that way.

We shall see come this weekend - that is bound to be enough time!

[mama2LB]

I don't know how you can wait! lol! I think I'm a poas addict! I love the week leading up to ov!!! x

[suregena]

I just don't really have any tests but one, that's why! :P

[KraizyDaizy]

I see something Suregena!! Praying for u!!!

[suregena]

I had a short burst of queasiness Sunday, yesterday, and first thing this morning. I hope that's a good sign. Keep getting headaches! Trying not to get my hopes up, though.

[suregena]

Does my chart still seem okay? Does it look like I most likely ovulated then, since my temp has remained rather consistently high?

[auroara78]

I think your chart looks OK but not sure why FF is not giving you "crosshairs" yet?

I *think* I see the BFP, but not entirely sure...its very faint but I do beleive i see the 2nd line...can't wait for you to test again over the weekend...if you are preggers, it should definitely darken!

[dramabird]

I think your chart looks OK but not sure why FF is not giving you "crosshairs" yet?

One possibility -- and it's just a guess, because FF can be so darn persnickety -- is that since you're still reporting fertile CM, it doesn't think you've O'd yet.

On my own cycle, I really just had creamy CM the day of ovulation ... but if I put that in there, it switches my crosshairs to a dotted line (suggesting that it's not really "sure" if I ovulated), even though my temps, OPKs and Clearblue Fertility monitor all confirm O ... oh, yeah, and the fact that I got pg. :) So I put in watery even though that's not really true, because I like how the solid line makes my chart look better. :D So it doesn't take much at all for FF to get moody and refuse to put in a solid crosshair or to put one in at all.

[suregena]

I did a fake temp input for tomorrow that was a bit higher than the current steady high temp and that gave me crosshairs immediately for the day I suspected I ovulated on. Ivecremoved the fake temp for tomorrow to bring my chart back to its present state, but that answers my question that they are waiting for my temp to get a little higher before there is a crosshairs. I'm just going to go with that date, then, for ovulation... was CD26 and so that makes me 7DPO?

[suregena]

One possibility -- and it's just a guess, because FF can be so darn persnickety -- is that since you're still reporting fertile CM, it doesn't think you've O'd yet.

On my own cycle, I really just had creamy CM the day of ovulation ... but if I put that in there, it switches my crosshairs to a dotted line (suggesting that it's not really "sure" if I ovulated), even though my temps, OPKs and Clearblue Fertility monitor all confirm O ... oh, yeah, and the fact that I got pg. :) So I put in watery even though that's not really true, because I like how the solid line makes my chart look better. :D So it doesn't take much at all for FF to get moody and refuse to put in a solid crosshair or to put one in at all.

ohhh, that's a thought! I'll take all that out post the day I suspected I ovulated and see if that helps, too.

[Mochagirl]

You can also try switching your ovulation detector to 'research' instead of 'advanced'. The month I conceived this little bean FF and I disagreed on my O date, but when I switched it to 'research' we agreed, so I left it that way.

[suregena]

Ah-HA! NOW after I switched it, like you suggested Mocha, it did the crosshairs!

Fertilityfriend is really complicated... haha.....

[Mochagirl]

Yeah - sometimes I find it funny we even use it because we all know our bodies and usually our own instincts are right about when we O'd so we end up changing data to try to make FF agree with what we know is right. I'm glad it gave you your crosshairs - now on to your BFP!

[suregena]

So I'm guessing my body TRIED to O on CD18 (when I would have if maybe I had stopped the vitex sooner? I stopped on CD16) maybe but it didn't work and then finally managed CD26. That's my thinking and I'm stickin' to it! :P

[mama2LB]

I've not seen your chart Suregena but if you're still reporting fertile cm, could that not be a pg sign? When I got my BFP with DS, that was my only symptom for ages, increased cm? - Just a thought! x

[mama2LB]

Oh, now I can see your chart! lol! I'm still getting to grips with my f.f. chart - 4 months in! x

[suregena]

I've not really been "dry" yet that I can say.

[mama2LB]

Sounds promising! Fingers crossed for you then! x

[suregena]

YIKES! I had a huge dip this morning! I hope that isn't bad!

[Butterfly Spirit]

YIKES! I had a huge dip this morning! I hope that isn't bad!

Might it be an implantation dip?

Is day 7 possible for O?

[suregena]

I hope it's implantation :(

[Butterfly Spirit]

I hope it's implantation :(

Best of luck sweetie!

[suregena]

:( I'm worried now! Cannot do anything about this cycle now, though. I am possibly 8dpo today which would work out okay time wise for a dip, but still... it's really, really a low dip though. :/

[Lassie1982]

I think it could be a dip! Time wise it matches!
When was the last time you dtd? Sperm live 7 days, so even if this dip was ovulation dip then you've still got a shot at pregnancy
:fx: it's implant!!


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[suregena]

Last DTD on the 1st. :( I don't seem super fertile or anything... nO ewcm. It feels wet... more medium in height and doesn't feel soft... maybe it feels a little open but nowhere near what it all felt like day before suspected O day.

Fingers crossed. :( so fed up of long, weird cycles....

I actually feel AF-like last night/today... which is confusing but maybe that's a good thing....... breasts still slightly tender around outside edges...


Please be implantation! :(

[suregena]

Uh, okay... that dip couldn't possibly be for ovulation because I just checked my cervix again, with all the AF type cramping I've been having this morning since I checked early am and I barely put my fingers in and my cervix is waaaay low. I got white lotiony stretchy cm and my cervix feels massive! What the? It feels much longer than usual??

[Mochagirl]

I think it could be an implantation dip, suregena!

[HappyMedium]

Well after a horrible cycle AF showed. I truly don't know which tests to trust anymore..they all had lines. So on to a new one and maybe my BFP this time....

[Mochagirl]

Sorry, HappyMedium - I was really hopeful for you. What brand of tests were you using?

[suregena]

If I DO conceive this cycle, I'd be surprised if it wasn't a boy, because I feel like my diet sucked. :( I DID lose 6lbs prior to ovulation, but... don't know! I'm full of the "looking back on everything" thoughts today.

[auroara78]

Don't do that to yourself, suregena! I still think becuz your son was concieved during a "pig out" vacation type thing that you may even be more prone to making girls than boys (since you're a vegeratarian)...you only have 1 boy... do not lose hope or even second question yoru sway, esp. since you don't even know if it resulted in pregnancy or not :)

[dramabird]

Suregena, FX on an implantation dip! I think something like 80 percent of implantations happen on CD8-10, so you're in a perfect range for it.

Happy Medium, sorry about that darn AF. :(

Less than 36 hours after my BFP, I started coming down with a gnarly respiratory illness. I'd been having a funny, fuzzy-headed, dizzy feeling for a couple of days before testing that I'd attributed to possible pg ... but now I think it was my body trying to fight off the onset of the sore throat/cold/whatnot (DH had the same thing, includng the preceding dizziness, about 10 days earlier). So I'm achy and have laryngitis from the cold and queasy from early pg ... I'm a big ball of fun!! :p I'm eager for the sickness to clear up so that I'll be able to concentrate on just the "good" bad feelings (they feel bad, but they're good because they're from my bean!). Nuthin' good about bad cold feelings. Blech.

[Mochagirl]

Suregena - we all have second thoughts after the attempt is done. I had so many regrets after my BFP, but it still worked out in the end. Think of all the things you DID do to sway and don't focus on the stuff you didn't do.

[suregena]

Are implantation dips common? And, for the most part, do they only happen if an egg was released and fertilized?

Like... you don't have a random low dip in the middle of high temps post ovulation if no pregnancy is happening, right? I know there are all sorts of variations of what is "normal", but... I mean, statistically, what's the implantation dip all about, then?

When I felt my low cervix, that did give me a huge sigh of relief with my huuuge temp dip! Because to me that DEFINITELY meant no way I could have only just 'ovulated' now.... with a cervix that low... ouch! I don't think my husband would get in there. :x

Thanks, girls... :) I swear, I really need to keep remembering that most of you are naturally meat eaters and my husband and I are longtime vegetarians... so our odds are already good-ish perhaps, anyway.

[Lassie1982]

not sure if you have read this yet suregena
Implantation dip study (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/Faqs/Implantation-dip-study.html)

So basically - if you have a dip, you are more likely to be pregnant, then not. But having a dip doesn't necessarily mean you are pregnant - i.e., yes you can have a dip and no pregnancy, but its far less likely.

[Lassie1982]

so sorry happymedium :(
hope next month is your month!

[Babyy Love]

If I DO conceive this cycle, I'd be surprised if it wasn't a boy, because I feel like my diet sucked. :( I DID lose 6lbs prior to ovulation, but... don't know! I'm full of the "looking back on everything" thoughts today.

To be honest with you I feel the same exact way I'd be shocked if I had a girl due to my diet of meat meat and more meat!

[NCBeachyGrl]

Hi ladies! I am joining in the TTC thread. Yay! I just O'd on Monday so I am waiting for AF and then we will start with FR and go for our first TTC cycle. How long have most of you been TTC and if you are pg, how long did it take?

[dramabird]

Hi NC, and welcome!

I switched to mostly vegetarian at the start of Oct. 2011 and started the LE diet at the end of December, including going fully vegetarian and eating only twice a day (noon or later and 6 p.m. or later). I was on the diet about 6-7 weeks before our first attempt. It took me four cycles to get my bfp, which I just got four days ago. I'll be adding my sway in the "add your sway" section soon, but this was my first cycle off of Vitex and not using Sylk (I also didn't use antihistamines, but I had essentially no fertile-looking CM, anyway). My DH did FR for a week before our first attempt and we BD daily for six days, through O. I was taking saw palmetto and I did use RepHresh (and saliva for lube) and most BD was with me on top and never with a big O for me.

How's that for more information than you asked for? ;)

[NCBeachyGrl]

Thanks Dramabird! I love hearing everyone's stories. I actually might end up O'ing in June if AF or O shows a little early. I can't believe the time is finally here. When I had my IUD taken out in March, I felt like it was still a year away!

Congrats on your BFP!!!!!

[suregena]

Temp back up! :)

[suregena]

Also, this morning when I wiped there was the smallest tiny tiny brown line on it... But it could have easily been there before I wiped, i.e. natural variation of the papers fibers... and, let's face it, because my temp was back up this morning... I had to use a cheapie from the pound store (I bought a two pack the other day)... there is a very faint second line, I swear! Not quite as faint as that earlier test... but definitely easier to spot! :o !!!

[suregena]

I took it right before I left for work so I've brought the test with me to stare at better when I get to work. :)

[suregena]

Also, what could have made that very faint line appear from the test taken days ago if there had been no implantation yet???

[mama2LB]

Sounding very promising!!! :)

[Lassie1982]

Sounding very promising!!! :)
i second that!

[suregena]

Also, we've recently started watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer and first season I was sort of meh about, but I'm totally addicted now on the second season and have been insisting we watch like five episodes in a row... on a work night! Now my husband is fed up of going to bed really late and I was throwing a fit (haha) and he said, "If you had this attitude all the time before I married you, we wouldn't have gotten married... so you better be pregnant!" I laughed and said hopefully he's right as I haven't noticed how awful I've been this week!

[Mochagirl]

Suregena - I'm so excited for you - this all sounds very promising!!!!

[HopeandDreamG]

Suregena- I am SURE lol you are preggo after all that dtd!!!

[Babyy Love]

I was crabby and evil all last week & I totally forgot to mention I got 5 BFPs!! :)
I took 2 in 1 day and 3 1 day after the other and 1 I did wrong yet it still showed 2 lines

[Butterfly Spirit]

Also, this morning when I wiped there was the smallest tiny tiny brown line on it... But it could have easily been there before I wiped, i.e. natural variation of the papers fibers... and, let's face it, because my temp was back up this morning... I had to use a cheapie from the pound store (I bought a two pack the other day)... there is a very faint second line, I swear! Not quite as faint as that earlier test... but definitely easier to spot! :o !!!

Possible IB already!? Have you done the Qtip test? :)

WAIT *Rewind*
A FAint line!?!?!?!?! Ghosty line?

[Butterfly Spirit]

Surgena, I felt like a total B*TCH 3 days before my BFP! I didn't know why really!

[suregena]

What's IB? I'm so bad with Internet lingo sometimes!

Look at my temp this morning... whoa.

All the DTD and my not having taken the antihistamine around when I actually O'd, and stopping jump and dump the two bd's before o, etc, make me feel like if I am definitely pregnant, it's going to be a boy. But whatever will be, will be! I adore my little boy and even if next kiddo is a boy, that's a special thing, too.


I have one test, should I use it this am? I've just woken up and haven't gone to the bathroom yet. I have a feeling I'm going to just be buying more tests, anyway!

[suregena]

Oh, what's qtip test?

[Lassie1982]

Oh, what's qtip test?

Stick a q tip (ear cleaner thingies) up your, you know, and wipe around your cervix gently. If it comes out clean the there is no sign of af and you are pregnant :) if it comes our dirty then af might be on its way.
I've never done it myself, paranoid about germs or hurting my cervix lol.

I reckon poas tomorrow morning, but I amsoooooo aure you are pregnant! It's certain!

And I wouldn't worry much about the lack of jump and dump, the diet is going to do tons more for you then jump and dump, and because their was so much dtd and fr the sperm count has to have been drastically reduced.






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[suregena]

True...

My diet wasn't as good as it could have been. I still LOST weight and was about 112 two days prior to O... which was the lowest, but I feel my diet was poor *at times* (not all the time...)

The first time I swayed before I gave up because of my delayed long cycle back at the start of the year, I lost soooo much weight, but my diet was hardcore. I did REALLY good. My husband did amazing... 3x a day licorice root, FR, etcetera. This time? Eh. I so wanted to get pregnant and I had weird moments where I'd throw a nibble in my mouth (naughty me!), husband only did licorice root 1x a day because I really wanted to get pregnant, he DID FR a lot though... starting CD5 and still mostly continued when we started BD with the odd day where we only BD'd... so I guess that's good. It looks like the two attempts where we didn't do J+D was right before my O day, but if I recall he had released those days, too. I think. Can't remember!

But we are both vegetarians, anyway. My diet was pretty low fat (didn't mean to, though...) until towards closer to O day. My calories were always within where they should have been but did vary wildly each day sometimes, and I did have the odd accidental binge (cookies I baked, oops! Work treats, oops! Though still within range) which is why I feel a little disappointed in my diet... ... quasi-snacking the odd day, but I guess it was extra hard on me because I am constantly moving, so am constantly hungry. If I were still in the US and driving around, it would have been easier. Unfortunately, beyond public transport, my feet are my mode of transportation.

I did what I could and I DID just want to get pregnant asap, so we'll see! I won't be sad if it's a boy, not at all... I'll just feel like a goof even bothering to sway at all... with all the money I spent! Hahaha! :)

[suregena]

Overall I lost probably 6lbs or so after restarting the diet.

The first sway that I gave up on because O was sooooooo delayed I went from 119 to 103(!!!) in less than two months (oops... bad juju.)

This time I was more sensible... went from 118 to 112 instead.

[HappyMedium]

Hey Ladies! Well..I feel this is a lucky month for some reason! And MY HOPES are up for all of us, because Jessica Simpson is a chow hound and ate like crazy and had her girl LOL....fried foods, garbage, junk foods, cereals...and had a girl naturally. Here's to hoping!

And I'm not going to be so strict on diet this time. Lost a lot of weight and O was delayed 5 days which threw off all my BDing attempts. My body did not react well to the acidity and weight loss. Staying away from potatoes, tomatoes and red meats. Keeping weight low maybe a little loss and garbage foods. My body is now mushy and tone-less. Love it. :/

[Ribbons]

Also, we've recently started watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer and first season I was sort of meh about, but I'm totally addicted now on the second season and have been insisting we watch like five episodes in a row... on a work night! Now my husband is fed up of going to bed really late and I was throwing a fit (haha) and he said, "If you had this attitude all the time before I married you, we wouldn't have gotten married... so you better be pregnant!" I laughed and said hopefully he's right as I haven't noticed how awful I've been this week!

OMG suregena - Buffy is the most awesome show ever!!! And it only gets better :) We used to do the same thing... we would watch like 5-6 episodes in a row and stay up til 2am on work nights... LOL

After you're done, you need to watch Angel next to complete the whole saga!

[KraizyDaizy]

Praying for you Suregena! I bet you are pregnant!!!

[suregena]

OMG suregena - Buffy is the most awesome show ever!!! And it only gets better :) We used to do the same thing... we would watch like 5-6 episodes in a row and stay up til 2am on work nights... LOL

After you're done, you need to watch Angel next to complete the whole saga!

Heeheeh, we have all the Angels READY TO GO!!! We're going to start Angel alongside Buffy with the appropriate seasons... I think Buffy season 4 and Angel season 1? I can't remember... my husband knows how we have to watch them. I can't remember!

ODDLY... we've had Willow (hope I don't jinx myself...) picked for our future girl for ages. I'm okay with it even more now! :P

So, er, to put things back on topic... I hope Willow is in there. :)

[NCBeachyGrl]

Suregena did you POAS today? I am such a POAS addict and I am dying to see if you get a BFP! Your temp looks awesome today!

[Ribbons]

Heeheeh, we have all the Angels READY TO GO!!! We're going to start Angel alongside Buffy with the appropriate seasons... I think Buffy season 4 and Angel season 1? I can't remember... my husband knows how we have to watch them. I can't remember!

ODDLY... we've had Willow (hope I don't jinx myself...) picked for our future girl for ages. I'm okay with it even more now! :P

So, er, to put things back on topic... I hope Willow is in there. :)

The best way to do it is to watch Angel starting off after Season 3 of Buffy - but watch the finale of Buffy before starting season 5 of Angel since that whole season runs after Buffy ended.

Willow is a great name!!! She was my favorite character. Our girl name is Aine (Anya)... you haven't met her character yet, she shows up for the first time in season 3. And one of our boy names is Xander... so funny

DH used to work for a card company that sold Buffy game cards, so we were quite into it, can you tell!!! :P

[suregena]

ARGH! I typed a whole bunch and it got deleted. :( ARGH!

Heeeh, awesome!

The gist of what I said was... our future girl is Willow Nova (and then another middle name, as my son have two so we're keeping up with that! But we've got a few second middles we're still undecided on) so I hope I don't jinx myself... have only shared it with my mom! :)

Today I actually thought I was starting my period... felt mildly crampy (but as I have been, anyway) but 'wet'... but nothing... PHEW!

[suregena]

Suregena did you POAS today? I am such a POAS addict and I am dying to see if you get a BFP! Your temp looks awesome today!

I did use my last test this morning and it looks identical to the others. Yesterday morning's was the clearest. I'm out of tests now but have ordered more and they should be here when it will be the best time to test, anyway.

Here's an undoctored photo of all the tests so far. What do you think?


I *think* it starts from 6DPO to today (I'm 10DPO.)

Yes, I ended up peeing on more than I wanted. Will power? A FAIL! :P


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[Butterfly Spirit]

What's IB? I'm so bad with Internet lingo sometimes!

Look at my temp this morning... whoa.

All the DTD and my not having taken the antihistamine around when I actually O'd, and stopping jump and dump the two bd's before o, etc, make me feel like if I am definitely pregnant, it's going to be a boy. But whatever will be, will be! I adore my little boy and even if next kiddo is a boy, that's a special thing, too.


I have one test, should I use it this am? I've just woken up and haven't gone to the bathroom yet. I have a feeling I'm going to just be buying more tests, anyway!

Implantation bleeding! :)

[Butterfly Spirit]

Surgena, I think you are preggers girl! :)

[suregena]

Did you look at the tests I posted? I know it's super early. Do they look still questionable, or what?

My miscarriages were the only ones I ever tested super early for. But I can't quite remember if I was having symptoms or not then. I think I just started testing early because I was impatient.

My son I was still waiting for my post-miscarriage period so wasn't thinking pregnancy until I was probably already 5 weeks along! So his test was dark!

This time I'm just feeling symptom-rific so hence the early start, especially with the at-the-time-unknown O day...

[Mochagirl]

I see lines on some of the bottom ones! Is there any way you could go out and buy a test? ICs never worked for me until many, many days past a FRER, but I think if you're getting a faint line on an IC any old store-bought test has the potential to give you a clear positive. I think you're preggers!

[suregena]

I could, but they are so shockingly costly... I just can't justify it. I should have some in the mail Monday/Tues/Weds. :) This way I can't test until I give hcg some time to climb!

[Ribbons]

suregena, my early ICs looked just like yours :) sooooooper faint line at 10DPO on my IC, on the same day I got a very clear (but faint) line on a FRER. But I can see your lines! You're preggo for sure!

[NCBeachyGrl]

I can see some lines too! Especially if I tilt my screen!:poas:

[suregena]

:D Maybe I should buy prenatals... you know... just in case........

[Kiesse]

Suregena.... Your tests look EXACTLY how mine were, i didnt want to get my hopes up and kept denying the result. I would hold the test in every light angle you could! there was def a faint line on mine like yours! I am now just over 6 weeks!! I went and got my beta done to put my mind at ease. but hunny i am soooo positive you are pregnant! Congrats xx

[crystal-light]

....

[KraizyDaizy]

Suregena, I see [ll]! congrats!!!

[genieinabottle1]

Hi ladies hoping for many BFPs for you all. I am still waiting for PPAF but hope it is coming this month. I got tired of waiting for it so my diet has all but stopped. My main changes now are no red meat, white meat once a week, and no cereal for breakfast. I will probably get more strict after our trip next week. Hoping to finally O around here. Ds 2 is 20 months and nurses just twice a day.

[Lassie1982]

well we've started our attempts last night, CD9 today, should ovulate around cd 12-16. Starting early as i am not sure when exactly OV will be and dh is super keen for me to finally get pregnant. No opk's this month as i think they have caused me too much confusion, will stick just to temping, that has proved pretty reliable in the past.
We've dropped so many sway elements (FR, LR, Zrytec, Rephresh, and have halfed vitex) that I'm in 2 minds - might finally fall pregnant, but diet (LE and vegetarian, plus peppermint) itself might not be enough to sway.....

[Lassie1982]

suregena - i can see lines - no question about it!

[suregena]

Oooohhh! :) Can't wait to have some tests to test again this coming week! Hopefully things will become much clearer.

[NCBeachyGrl]

Fingers crossed you get a dark line!

[suregena]

Today I keep having a feeling like I've overeaten... not nausea, but bleh.

[Babyy Love]

When is AF due for u surgena?

[suregena]

When is AF due for u surgena?

I don't know anymore. If my cycle had been NORMAL, AF would have been due June 2nd. But I didn't ovulate at a normal time... (around May 19th-22nd or so would have probably been about normal ovulation time... my last AF was May 5th) actually, ovulation was delayed by about... 10 or so days... ovulated May 30th.

[Babyy Love]

I don't know anymore. If my cycle had been NORMAL, AF would have been due June 2nd. But I didn't ovulate at a normal time... (around May 19th-22nd or so would have probably been about normal ovulation time... my last AF was May 5th) actually, ovulation was delayed by about... 10 or so days... ovulated May 30th.

I tested the day b4 AF was due and the day of and got faint lines similar to your but then the day after AF was due I used FMU and the 1 line was actually darker and now for fun and because my test have expiration dates lol I test anytime of day and i still get my 2 lines so try FMU and first response test

[suregena]

I've got some more tests on order as they are cheaper than getting from the shop. I have a hard time justifying paying £7-£15 for a test. :/

I've got a clearblue digital and some more cheapies on the way via ebay.

[Babyy Love]

I've got some more tests on order as they are cheaper than getting from the shop. I have a hard time justifying paying £7-£15 for a test. :/

I've got a clearblue digital and some more cheapies on the way via ebay.

Amazon has cheap prices too!
Does walmart ship to you?

[fish2012]

hi suregena
i've bought a couple from the pound shop, and asda somethimes have them for a pound in thier £1 isle x

[suregena]

I live in a funky little town so Poundland I've been to and gotten tests from before when I get off work (I work in another town)... but even those are two in a box for £1 and I just ordered 10 and spent £2 incl. shipping! Heeh. I also just got a digital off eBay for £4 incl. shipping... so I'll just wait until Tuesday or thereabouts! :)
I'm feeling headachey again... a bit queasy, actually... not sure if it's because I ate too much or just because! :) I really hope this is real and sticks and I CERTAINLY hope I don't have miscarriages. I had two miscarriages before my son... but I hope my body knows what it's doing now it's done it once before.

I hope I see darker lines in a few days!

[suregena]

Amazon has cheap prices too!
Does walmart ship to you?

Wal-mart is in the US but we have ASDA in the UK which is owned by Wal-mart, but I do not live anywhere remotely near one.

I seriously live in a small town. :P Hebden Bridge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebden_Bridge)

[suregena]

Wal-mart is in the US but we have ASDA in the UK which is owned by Wal-mart, but I do not live anywhere remotely near one.

I seriously live in a small town. :P Hebden Bridge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebden_Bridge)

Haha! Weird - if you scroll down on the wiki page of the town I live in, there is a photo of "Greens Vegetarian Cafe"... (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Greens-Vegetarian-Cafe-Hebden-Bridge.jpg) - uh, the top part of that building was the flat I lived in before we moved into our current house after I got pregnant with my son. Too funny.

Here is a photo of me (pregnant with my son) looking out of one of those top floor windows! It was a great flat... but too small for a new family! :)


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[Babyy Love]

Wal-mart is in the US but we have ASDA in the UK which is owned by Wal-mart, but I do not live anywhere remotely near one.

I seriously live in a small town. :P Hebden Bridge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebden_Bridge)

Walmart should ship to the UK lol I could've shipped my extra FRER to u for free if I didn't pee on them all lol I had to be sure I wasn't crazy tho

[ThroughWithBlue]

I hope I can ask a question here again. Looks like I'm starting the diet tomorrow!

I have a blend of broccoli, cauliflower and carrots that I could live off of, is that ok to eat? Not sure if broccoli is too nutritious.
Are baby carrots ok to eat?
Is hot chocolate ok to drink every now and then? The kind I have is no sugar added and I only use 2T so it's less than 50 cal and maybe 1g fat I don't know. No added nutrients but has 10%DV calcium
ETA are yams ok to eat? They only have Japanese yams here they are purple on the outside, white on the inside (think they are yams...the sign is a Japanese word..no idea lol..). They fill me up so just curious!

Saw Palmetto, saw on a thread here someone mention it has to be the softgels due to some sort of fatty acid in there, I have the kind with the herb in there it's not a softgel. I've been taking it for about 3-ish weeks now, honestly can't remember when I started it.

[suregena]

Ugh. I got some tests in the mail today and they came early on so I was able to use FMU with one. I can barely make out anything, therefore I probably see nothing.

This is probably going to turn into a chemical, isn't it? Sigh....

[Ribbons]

Haha! Weird - if you scroll down on the wiki page of the town I live in, there is a photo of "Greens Vegetarian Cafe"... (File:Greens-Vegetarian-Cafe-Hebden-Bridge.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Greens-Vegetarian-Cafe-Hebden-Bridge.jpg)) - uh, the top part of that building was the flat I lived in before we moved into our current house after I got pregnant with my son. Too funny.

Here is a photo of me (pregnant with my son) looking out of one of those top floor windows! It was a great flat... but too small for a new family! :)

What a great bump, suregena :) your old flat is famous LOL

I live in a seriously small town, too - Felton CA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felton,_California), population 4000 - I love small towns :)

[Ribbons]

Ugh. I got some tests in the mail today and they came early on so I was able to use FMU with one. I can barely make out anything, therefore I probably see nothing.

This is probably going to turn into a chemical, isn't it? Sigh....

Your chart still looks good... I wouldn't worry about it - you are only 12DPO... And you are still using the IC's right? Those things are notoriously inaccurate when you are early on... I barely got a line on 10DPO, 11DPO it was even fainter on my IC (but darker on my FRER, go figure) and finally on 12DPO my IC was strong enough to show up in a pic (the HCGs are the ones on the left there, of course):

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And compared to my FRERs, they were no contest:

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So don't give up hope yet!!! Just keep testing - maybe you'll get a better line tomorrow!

[suregena]

Your chart still looks good... I wouldn't worry about it - you are only 12DPO... And you are still using the IC's right? Those things are notoriously inaccurate when you are early on... I barely got a line on 10DPO, 11DPO it was even fainter on my IC (but darker on my FRER, go figure) and finally on 12DPO my IC was strong enough to show up in a pic (the HCGs are the ones on the left there, of course):

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And compared to my FRERs, they were no contest:

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So don't give up hope yet!!! Just keep testing - maybe you'll get a better line tomorrow!

It was a Boots brand test (a Pharmacy in the UK, like Walgreens.)

:( Trying not to get discouraged...

[Ribbons]

It was a Boots brand test (a Pharmacy in the UK, like Walgreens.)

:( Trying not to get discouraged...

Read about Boots tests here:
Pregnancy Test Results by Brand - Boots (UK) | Countdown to Pregnancy (http://www.countdowntopregnancy.com/pregnancy-test/brand-chart.php?hptbrandid=40)

In the reviews, people say that they have very faint positives and that the lines take a long time to develop, so who knows?

I don't think you need to worry! I think that you are pg and everything is going to be ok :)

:hug2:

[dramabird]

I hope I can ask a question here again. Looks like I'm starting the diet tomorrow!

I have a blend of broccoli, cauliflower and carrots that I could live off of, is that ok to eat? Not sure if broccoli is too nutritious.
Are baby carrots ok to eat?
Is hot chocolate ok to drink every now and then? The kind I have is no sugar added and I only use 2T so it's less than 50 cal and maybe 1g fat I don't know. No added nutrients but has 10%DV calcium
ETA are yams ok to eat? They only have Japanese yams here they are purple on the outside, white on the inside (think they are yams...the sign is a Japanese word..no idea lol..). They fill me up so just curious!

Through, I ate a lot of broccoli, esp. the last six weeks or so of my diet before I got my bfp. Quite a bit of cauliflower, too. I mostly stayed away from the carrots, since they are both brightly colored (indicating nutrition) and higher in sugar content than some other veggies. I also ate white sweet potatoes (I figured if the flesh was pale rather than bright orange, it could mean it had fewer nutrients).

As Atomic says, the diet is low nutrient, not no nutrient. And you've got to eat something! :) So I wouldn't feel guilty about those veggies at all, esp. if they help you stick to the overall levels of the diet.

[suregena]

I hope my internet cheapies arrive tomorrow... I actually think they're better then Boots!

Actually, I'm just eating lunch now and *almost* done with it, but feel queasy now. God, I hope you're right that it's just that particular brand...

I've dissected the cartridge that holds the test to leave it out. I hate those stupid tiny windows!

[Catrina]

Good luck ladies

[auroara78]

suregena, I still think your chart looks pretty good! FX you will get a big fat positive soon!!

I agree with dramabird that you still have to eat something! I still believe and am wholly convinced that my diet of healthy FATS is what helped me make two boys before! I was all into extra virgin olive oil, high protein, losing weight very slowly (lifting weights to GAIN muscle) both times when I concieved them. Not to mention my favortite kind of pizza in the world is feta cheese + olives on top...olives!

I think keeping cals low and protein lowish is most important.

[dramabird]

FX, Suregena!! C'mon, stubborn test lines, show up big and bold already!!

Ladies, I went ahead and posted my sway here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/add-your-girl-sway/11272-dramabirds-girl-sway.html. Let me know if there are any areas I forgot to cover. Hopefully it's pretty thorough.

And I think, in looking it over, it's a fairly strong sway. Maybe having a lot of attempts wasn't ideal ... and, of course, in a perfect world I would still have been food journaling so I'd have been certain to stay under levels every single day ... but I think a lot of things were good (almost ridiculously low conception weight, lots of FR for hubby, I had just dropped Vitex -- which worked for Atomic! -- saliva for lube and me on top during DTD, conceiving in the March-May time period, using some RepHresh, and being strict on no meat, no snacking and no breakfast). Whoever is busily growing inside me, whether of the pink or blue variety, it's who God intended.

Party bonus if it's pink, though, right? ;) :pray:

[suregena]

50mlU I think the Boots ones (which I used today, first different test I've tried) are and the internet cheapies are *supposedly* 10mlU... so maybe that is why? What should a normal level of hcg be around 12dpo?

[suregena]

I found this: hCG Level in Early Pregnancy | BabyMed.com (http://www.babymed.com/hcg-level-in-early-pregnancy)

That *sort of* makes me feel better.

[suregena]

If I were theoretically pregnant, I'd be like only 3 weeks 5 days or something, so there's time... numbers could still be too small for a 50mlU?

The reason I'm feeling panic is there are definitely more than one two visible lined tests from the internet cheapies from 8-10dpo so I'm grabbing at straws! I shouldn't have used that particular test today, I don't think!

[maybeoneday]

Suregena is there a superdrug anywhere near you? Their tests are meant to be 10mlu and are pink dye tests like frer only a lot cheaper than frer. They are nearly always on offer at £7.99 for 4 tests.

Good luck and can't wait to see your bfp!

[suregena]

Suregena is there a superdrug anywhere near you? Their tests are meant to be 10mlu and are pink dye tests like frer only a lot cheaper than frer. They are nearly always on offer at £7.99 for 4 tests.

Good luck and can't wait to see your bfp!

Nope... just in the town I work at... but I just can't pay the extra money on tests. I've got some more coming, more cheapies and a digital. I might save the digital for NEXT week, though...

[Lassie1982]

It just dawned on me that if we fail for yet another cycle, then I have nothing more I can do to modify the sway, nothing left to cut out, and absolutely no idea what to do.
Up till now it's been a case of cutting things out of the sway, but there is nothing more to cut out.
Dtd frequency is already as high as it can be so I can't get more attempts in.

I'm quiet worried now :(
For some who had a one shot wonder for my first pregnancy, and fell pregnant on pre ejac in my last pregnancy (which was unplanned and I ended up miscarrying) I just don't get why i can't fall pregnant and am at a complete loss as to what to do if this month is another failure :cry:






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[dramabird]

Lassie, do you have your sway written up anywhere? Maybe where it was when you started (cycle #1) and where it's at now (cycle #5)? I'm no expert (mostly just been trying to soak up Atomic's knowledge), but I'd be happy to take a look for you and see if I have any (helpful??) suggestions.

[lightofmylifexxxy]

Hi Girls - looks like i've got my bfp !
I'm 15dpo today, started getting super faint lines on internet cheapies on 9dpo. Thought they were evaps. But slowly darkened over next few days. Took my last test on 13 dpo and had a definite line. Fainter than control, but sure it must be a positive?!
So it looks like AF might not be arriving this month after all! So I dropped out everything this month. No zyrtec, no sylk. BD'd Calendar day 6, 7 & 8 (all in PM). Ovulation came so early! I am pretty sure I O'd Day 10 in the late afternoon, early evening. So i think i had about a 1.5 day - 42 hours cut off. Strangest thing was i checked a lunar fertility calendar I had printed off the internet, and my O day lined up with my Lunar O ! I was skeptical about it, but maybe there is something too it? (they say when your lunar O lines up with O then you are hyper fertile?).
Anyway, still feel a bit skeptical about whether i am preggers or not, don't trust the internet cheapies! Will see if AF shows in next day or so, Wishing you all lots of luck xxx

[Lassie1982]

Congrats lightofmylife!!!! excellent news :cheer:

[Lassie1982]

Lassie, do you have your sway written up anywhere? Maybe where it was when you started (cycle #1) and where it's at now (cycle #5)? I'm no expert (mostly just been trying to soak up Atomic's knowledge), but I'd be happy to take a look for you and see if I have any (helpful??) suggestions.

That would be fabulous :) I really appreciate it! I do have most of my notes, will collate it all and PM you...thanks a million :)

[maybeoneday]

Lassie, I am in exactly the same position as you, if not pregnant this month, I have nothing left to drop.....

I am thinking about trying some accupuncture to help me fall pregnant. I know it is said to possibly sway blue but you can't get your desired gender if you can't get pregnant!

Good luck and have everything crossed for you for this month.

[Lassie1982]

Lassie, I am in exactly the same position as you, if not pregnant this month, I have nothing left to drop.....

I am thinking about trying some accupuncture to help me fall pregnant. I know it is said to possibly sway blue but you can't get your desired gender if you can't get pregnant!

Good luck and have everything crossed for you for this month.

Lots of pink luck to you too!

[suregena]

Why am I so full of worry? Maybe I should splurge on a FRER. I was in a pharmacy in the town I work at this morning and they were selling them for £10 which is a LOT of money but I'm starting to feel worried!
Oy vey. Someone slap me. I'm
13dpo, I shouldn't yet be expecting much, should I? It's normal to have insanely faint shadow lines on ICs even now? I had more ICs come in this morning so used one and it's still soooooo faint. :(

[auroara78]

I would splurge and get a FRER. They are the only test early on that I truly only trust.

Lassie, I would be interested in a look if you want to PM also all the notes you send Drama so I can see a pattern and maybe figure something out for you.

Congrats lightofmylife!!!!!! Whooo hooo!!

[coocoobananas]

Any line no matter how light is positive I thought ?!,

[Ribbons]

Why am I so full of worry? Maybe I should splurge on a FRER. I was in a pharmacy in the town I work at this morning and they were selling them for £10 which is a LOT of money but I'm starting to feel worried!
Oy vey. Someone slap me. I'm
13dpo, I shouldn't yet be expecting much, should I? It's normal to have insanely faint shadow lines on ICs even now? I had more ICs come in this morning so used one and it's still soooooo faint. :(

I agree with auroara, I would get an FRER. It will really help you to alleviate the stress, and at this point, you really should know by the results of the FRER... I know it is a lot of money, but with the cheapies, you may be going through this for another 2-3 days at least!

For the cheapies, faint positives are the reported majority all the way up until 15DPO, and even then, faint or very faint positives are still coming up for people almost 50% of the time!!! It isn't until 17-19DPO that the ICs should be good to rely on, according to Countdown To Pregnancy:
Pregnancy Test Results by Brand - Internet: Dip Strips | Countdown to Pregnancy (http://www.countdowntopregnancy.com/pregnancy-test/brand-chart.php?hptbrandid=17)

Your chart still looks good. I'm sorry you're going through testing hell! xo

[Mochagirl]

I agree with auroara, I would get an FRER. It will really help you to alleviate the stress, and at this point, you really should know by the results of the FRER... I know it is a lot of money, but with the cheapies, you may be going through this for another 2-3 days at least!

For the cheapies, faint positives are the reported majority all the way up until 15DPO, and even then, faint or very faint positives are still coming up for people almost 50% of the time!!! It isn't until 17-19DPO that the ICs should be good to rely on, according to Countdown To Pregnancy:
Pregnancy Test Results by Brand - Internet: Dip Strips | Countdown to Pregnancy (http://www.countdowntopregnancy.com/pregnancy-test/brand-chart.php?hptbrandid=17)

Your chart still looks good. I'm sorry you're going through testing hell! xo

I couldn't agree more. If I lived anywhere remotely close to you, suregena, I would have shown up on your doorstep with a FRER days ago. :bigsmile:

[suregena]

Got it, price-ouch! I'll use it with FMU tomorrow. I feel pretty symptomless or mainly less so today so naturally worrisome.

What would my chart be doing if there were any reason to worry? I woke up sweating this morning, as my chart shows my temp was up further, so I hope I'm just worrying for nothing. I either want a definite bfn or a bright bfp. This in between am I/am I not business is making me a little sad! :(

[Mochagirl]

Then a FRER's definitely what you need. At this point you should be able to get a nice, solid line with one - especially with FMU. Just think how good that will feel, and then you can eat whatever you want with no guilt. Well worth the £10, if you ask me.

[suregena]

I'll be crushed if it's super negative... considering all the faints I have right now. I mean, they're still realllly faint.

[Mochagirl]

ICs never worked for me until quite late - and I had ones that were supposed to be 10 miu too. I think if you're getting any line at all on the cheapies you should get a nice line on that FRER tomorrow. Good luck!

[suregena]

Thanks! I've got myself all worked up. :( The lines seemed better around 9dpo and now they are literally ghostly. I can still make them out, but barely. But maybe it's just something to do with the minimal dye in them and the ebb and flow of hcg increases?

I'm pretty sure I used FRER my two miscarriages, and maybe the odd IC, which were faint I think, now that I think about it. My other pregnancy I used an IC but I was already 5+ weeks by then. Maybe because of that good result I just have it in my head that they're excellent or something!

Fingers crossed for me. :( I've got all my mail stuff in... I have 14 tests now! Hahaha! Two digital, two FRER, and 10 IC's.

Here's hoping... I REALLY WANT TO BE PREGNANT! I DON'T EVEN CARE IF IT'S A BOY! I just want a baby! Argh!

[Lassie1982]

I would splurge and get a FRER. They are the only test early on that I truly only trust.

Lassie, I would be interested in a look if you want to PM also all the notes you send Drama so I can see a pattern and maybe figure something out for you.

Congrats lightofmylife!!!!!! Whooo hooo!!

Will do thank you :flowerz:

[Lassie1982]

Suregena - i was going to say YES go get a FRER, sounds like you already have - good luck for testing :)

[NCBeachyGrl]

Fingers crossed! When are you going to use one of the good tests?

[suregena]

Tomorrow morning - FRER!

Cross your fingers for me. Even a faint one on that would make me happy. :(

[suregena]

I'll be 14DPO tomorrow.

[suregena]

F*uck Internet Cheapies! - Trying To Conceive - What to Expect.com (http://www.whattoexpect.com/forums/trying-to-conceive/archives/f-uck-internet-cheapies.html) <--- This is the sort of experience that I'm hoping for tomorrow! :worry::fx:

[Lassie1982]

what on earth?!?!?
Does this seem to you like i have ovulated early??
Temps by CD are:
4 = 97.21
5 = 97.38
6 = 97.17
7 = 97.24
8 = 97.02
9 = 97.05
10 = 96.63
11 = 97.15
12 = 97.51

Normally i get a 0.50 DROP pre ovulation, then a distinct rise.
Looks like i had a drop on cd10, then rises consecutively for 11 and 12 (today) ?
OPK was negative yesterday.
Have had some CM, but put that down to having dropped zrytec and refresh.
CP high soft and open.

I can't have ovulated this early could i?? Thats a bit useless isn't it? The egg won't be anywhere near mature enough?!?!?

Past cycles i have always ovulated cd 14-16.

WHat do you guys think?

here is a pic of my chart (with overlay of different months) pink is this month. dotted lines are previous months.
Bear in mind that this month by testing time is almost 1.5hrs earlier then in previous months - hence the overall decrease in temps comparatively.

OR - taking into account my conundrum here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-girl/11010-what-hell-going-my-body-3.html is it possible that the first day of spotting was actually first day of AF, and i shouldn't have resent the clock when the flow came? In that case i would be CD15, having O'd on CD14 which makes more sense.
But still crap as we didn't get enough attempts in.
And it doesn't explain the AF pattern of 3 days with microscopping spotting followed by 4 days of normal flow.

:hair::hair::hair::hair::hair::hair::hair::hair::h air:

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[suregena]

Have you BD'd? What are you taking this cycle?

[Lassie1982]

Have you BD'd? What are you taking this cycle?

yes we have had 4 attempts (one per day for the last 4 days) that just so doesn't seem enough though :( (and the timing all wrong)

This cycle all i am taking (aside from diet being vegetarian LE) is folate. Took some vitex for the first couple of days, then cut it out.

[NCBeachyGrl]

Tomorrow morning - FRER!

Cross your fingers for me. Even a faint one on that would make me happy. :(

So exciting! I will be checking first thing in the AM and I hope to see a pic of 2 lines!!!

[suregena]

So exciting! I will be checking first thing in the AM and I hope to see a pic of 2 lines!!!

And I hope I don't disappoint you! :( Because then that means I'd be disappointed, too! Fingers crossed... eeeek... :/

[HopeandDreamG]

Suregena- good luck in the am!

Lightofnylife- congrats!!!

Lassie- I got preg with ds 1 one time attempt, ds2 oops no idea, then my angel girl pre ejac totally unplanned. Now I can't get preg. Dropping frequent now. Had 3 great eggs last cycle, plenty of attempts and no sperm made it there. Pretty much diet & clomid for me this month.

Looks like AF is gonna start in am so I can get going!

[amari]

Sorry, hope. It is so frustrating. I think you have a good plan though. How are you doing with the diet? I feel like it is so hard. Gang in there, you can do it!

[suregena]

B.F.N.
I had a feeling as my temp was a little lower. Don't think it could properly keeping going. Definitely a chemical then. What a drag...

[suregena]

Now I have a lot to think about. We go to Berlin for a week August 1st to 8th. I'm not sure how long this cycle is going to last now. I'm not sure when I'll next ovulate. I definitely plan to eat in Berlin. If I ovulate beforehand, would I have morning sickness there or is it safe to fly early pregnancy? But I want to get pregnant and now I've missed the girl month, right?

I also am considering swapping vitex for soy isoflavones and would like to hear anyone's input. I'm also debating if hubby should just continue to take licorice root once a day when cycle returns.

Feedback most helpful. I should have known this would happen considering I had two miscarriages before my son.
My symptoms all but disappeared yesterday and today, plus the lower temp, shouldnt have held on. I don't think I'll test as early next time......

[Lassie1982]

B.F.N.
I had a feeling as my temp was a little lower. Don't think it could properly keeping going. Definitely a chemical then. What a drag...

im so sorry suregena.....life can be so cruel when we are ttc.
I was so certain it was a bfp...
You are sounding very brave an positive about it so well done :)

[Lassie1982]

Suregena- good luck in the am!

Lightofnylife- congrats!!!

Lassie- I got preg with ds 1 one time attempt, ds2 oops no idea, then my angel girl pre ejac totally unplanned. Now I can't get preg. Dropping frequent now. Had 3 great eggs last cycle, plenty of attempts and no sperm made it there. Pretty much diet & clomid for me this month.

Looks like AF is gonna start in am so I can get going!

Thanks Hope - sending you lots of luck and pink dust, and praying that this cycle your about to enter will be the one!

[Lassie1982]

Now I have a lot to think about. We go to Berlin for a week August 1st to 8th. I'm not sure how long this cycle is going to last now. I'm not sure when I'll next ovulate. I definitely plan to eat in Berlin. If I ovulate beforehand, would I have morning sickness there or is it safe to fly early pregnancy? But I want to get pregnant and now I've missed the girl month, right?

I also am considering swapping vitex for soy isoflavones and would like to hear anyone's input. I'm also debating if hubby should just continue to take licorice root once a day when cycle returns.

Feedback most helpful. I should have known this would happen considering I had two miscarriages before my son.
My symptoms all but disappeared yesterday and today, plus the lower temp, shouldnt have held on. I don't think I'll test as early next time......

I personally don't believe in girl and boy months - so i wouldn't hang/lose any hope on that.

i havnt a clue about the soy so I'm no help there, but with the LR id keep DH on it, its obviously not affecting his performance, so i don't think its hurting your sway.

Best of luck hun!

[Lassie1982]

i got a SUPER strong positive OPK this afternoon, so it looks like i havnt ovulated yet after all, thank goodness! Hopefully we can squeeze another 3 attempts in

[fish2012]

B.F.N.
I had a feeling as my temp was a little lower. Don't think it could properly keeping going. Definitely a chemical then. What a drag...

oh so sorry for you i thought it was BFP too hugs, ps I agree nothing in the boy/girl months i know twin girls born on the same day as DS1 must have been conceived about same time (they went full term!)

[fish2012]

oh no!!!!!!!! Disater have stayed the same weight this week! supposed to be doing 1st attempt this weekend for O estimated for monday! I'm about 5' 8ish, now weigh 10,13 so my BMI is 23, i've lost a stone over last 6 weeks on 1500 cal, should I?
1) start trying to do the 1hr a day of exercise (but not sure i can fit that in as both I and DH have long commutes and he works long hours)
2) reduce to 1200 cal
3) canx attempt
4) hope its a blip be super good no lill slips and check weight on sat before 1st attempt?

i'm tempted by 4 am i just being lazy ;-0

[suregena]

I don't believe in them either, as my son was conceived in a typical girl month, but I just threw it out there.

I'm pretty bummed out, though. I'm also pretty pissy at work today so my whole mood is off!

[suregena]

oh no!!!!!!!! Disater have stayed the same weight this week! supposed to be doing 1st attempt this weekend for O estimated for monday! I'm about 5' 8ish, now weigh 10,13 so my BMI is 23, i've lost a stone over last 6 weeks on 1500 cal, should I?
1) start trying to do the 1hr a day of exercise (but not sure i can fit that in as both I and DH have long commutes and he works long hours)
2) reduce to 1200 cal
3) canx attempt
4) hope its a blip be super good no lill slips and check weight on sat before 1st attempt?

i'm tempted by 4 am i just being lazy ;-0

It's okay to maintain as long as you're not gaining weight. :)

[Mochagirl]

Oh, Suregena - I'm soooo sorry - I was SURE you were pregnant! Next month my advice is lose the cheapies and stick to the good ones, and later in your cycle - those cheapies have caused you a ton of heartache!

As for whether or not to try in August - I wouldn't want you to ruin your trip by not eating and enjoying while you're there. I ovulated over Christmas, though, and I can honestly say I don't regret one bit not indulging even though everyone around me was - but that's only because I got a BFP that month. Flying in early pregnancy is fine, though - I ovulated while at my ILs house in Nova Scotia (across the country from me), and flew back home 3 days later.

As for the time of year, I really wouldn't give that a thought. I conceived this little girl in December.

[suregena]

I'm feeling a little achey this afternoon... bet AF could show any time. I went ahead and ordered the soy to give it a go... hopefully it arrives in good time. I'm going to go for it again but obviously keep an eye on where it puts me, cycle-wise, for my Berlin trip. Food is sooo yummy there and portions are big so a reason I'm looking forward to it (we also went last year.) If ovulation again takes too long I'd probably quit mid-cycle, but hopefully it all happens, timing wise, in the nick of time. Time will tell....

[NCBeachyGrl]

So sorry to hear the BFN Suregena! I hope AF shows soon and you get a normal cycle. Are still taking Vitex? If not, maybe you should stop and see what happens this next cycle.

[Ribbons]

Oh bummer Suregena... I'm sorry :( I agree with Mocha, you should def. not use the cheapies next time and hold onto that last FRER until you are 14DPO... I hate those cheapies, urgh! I'm glad that you did take the FRER and now know though, it will help you to move on and get ready for next time!

[suregena]

So sorry to hear the BFN Suregena! I hope AF shows soon and you get a normal cycle. Are still taking Vitex? If not, maybe you should stop and see what happens this next cycle.

I last took any vitex CD16. I ovulated CD26. It's CD40 today, ugh! My cycles are soooooo long whilst swaying! I'm going to stop vitex and try soy isoflavones next time.

[suregena]

Oh bummer Suregena... I'm sorry :( I agree with Mocha, you should def. not use the cheapies next time and hold onto that last FRER until you are 14DPO... I hate those cheapies, urgh! I'm glad that you did take the FRER and now know though, it will help you to move on and get ready for next time!

I'm going to do just that!

[suregena]

Seriously bizarre that I have zero symptoms today... zero! I wonder if it tried to implant but my lining was just not good enough due to the diet?