UK SMOG Wannabes June

[nuthinbutpink]

Happy June!

[zanacal]

Thanks NBP!

I can't believe it's June and I don't have my baby yet!! At my midwife appointment today I had a sweep but she said it probably wasn't a very good one as my cervix was high and difficult to reach (I knew that, I haven't been able to find it myself in forever!). I've declined an induction for now (ooh, that's interesting - I just had to stop and breathe through a braxton hicks. I have no idea if/how I'll recognise the real thing with all these twinges!) but have asked them to come and give me another sweep on Sunday and I'll ask for another on Tuesday, then I'm booked in for monitoring on Wednesday when I'm 42 weeks to check everything is still ok with baby/placenta/blood flow through the cord etc. I really hope it doesn't come to that though!

Does anybody have any plans for the long weekend/half-term? I've avoided making any plans because I thought I'd have a newborn and I guess I still might - we'll have to find exciting things for the boys to do close to home I guess!

[maybebabythree]

Thanks Nbp! X

Exciting times zanacal! I hope you don't get induced! I hated it both times but saying that ds3 was my best birth by far. Strange isn't it - you think after two they will fly out but nope!

[zanacal]

My midwife said today that fourth babies are said to be the easy ones and third babies the pain in the bum! My third was the easiest - he was the day before his due date and much, much quicker than the others. I won't go for an induction unless there's a medical reason for it so if I'm still here at 42 weeks I'll find myself going to the hospital every day for monitoring!

[indigoviolet]

thanks NBP :HH:

[Inglewood]

My friend has 5 kids 3 boys then 2 girls, she said the uneven numbers ie, baby 1, 3 and 5 were the worst deliveries!! lol

Deaks, did u have a scan today? x

[deaks66]

Hi ladies,

oh zanacal, poor you! hopefully she will make a jubilee appearance!

Had lovely scan this morning and although it wasn't confirmed officially, definitely saw his goods again :) Cant believe how excited i am getting! And again it made me smile so much to see how the profile shots of each of my bubs at 20 weeks are identical!! He is going to be a mini bill/jack i think :)

Been gardening all afternoon today and can definitely feel that i have overdone it but i just love gardening so much that when i start i just cant stop!

My plans for the weekend are to see friends tomorrow and do something fun, sunday at inlaws to meet our new nephew, monday at home for street/town parties and tues to our fav beach in norfolk..... all providing the weather is ok.

If i don't get a chance to get back on here, have a fab long weekend everyone and i want to hear of at least one new baby by next week pls!! X

[pinga]

Umm - not sure I like all these comments about how baby #3 is the worst labour!!!! I'm already convinced that this is going to be my longest pregnancy - I seem to go longer each time!

Maybe - oh gawd - imagine having to stay in hospital from what 17 weeks!?! That would be insanely difficult - especially if you have other kids. I'm just grumbling about a little fetal monitoring :D very simple in comparison!

Zanacal - you must be so over the pregnant bit!! I'm feeling really over it today. Been a horrible grump today. And I am only 37wks3days!!!!

Anyhews - better dash...

[Kell]

Awww all these babies so close to being here its all exciting!

Z I really hope things start soon for u :)

Hope the monitoring goes well Monday Pinga.

I've heard 3rd babies are a pain as well :( with ds2 I was excited to give birth but this time I am scared :S I have no reason to be, I guess I'm like some of the other ladies who've commented in the past, I've had two good perfect labours I'm worried this won't go quite as well.
But it's too late now lol!

We have a party to go to on Monday with all my family so that will be nice :)
Today is ds1's 9th birthday so we've been quite busy, but he said its been the best day of the year so I'm happy with that :)

[Inglewood]

Lots of your kiddies birthdays this weekend! Hope they all have a lovely time.

Maybe, I've had a few lumps and bumps in my groin since c-section, made me paranoid, but antinbiotics cleared them up and remembered after ds2 I had similar probs, but being a Cancer nurse I get a bit edgy about lumps...

We have a quiet few days planned, Dh putting up a shed with my dad. Not doing anything for jubilee, might go a day trip, if brave enough. Not that big up here, no big celebrations that I know of other than the kids at school on wed when they go back. Trying the colief with the girls till tom, then if no luck changing the milk to apatamil comfort and might go see gp if they still have reflux for some gaviscon sachets that ds2 took. Got a no for local osteopath, might call her if those things don't work.

One of my oldest and dearest friend gets married today about 150 miles away and I can't be there :( quite emotional about it today, baby hormones to blame! lol

Z and news???

Pinga, OMG! 37wks now...where has the time gone???? so many babies due in the next month it's amazing we all pretty much fell pg within weeks of each other....

Deaks, what a beautiful house you have! and u wanted to move?? hope he had a lovely birthday, you are looking AMAZING!!! x

Better go, DD1 crying for a feed.

have a good weekend ladies.... x

[Inglewood]

Oh, remember you ladies were planning on a meet up. When were u thinking? Dh goes camping with boys for a few days each summer, my mum might come with me for the drive to help with the twins, depending on how far it was to drive, legoland was 7-8hrs.

[Sunset]

Ooh meet up talk - me likes! set a place and time and i'm there! :)

Deaks ~ I agree with Inglewood, your house is gorgeous and I love how you have decorated it :D i'm happy to hear the scan went well! you will have to post your u\s pic for us to see :)

Zanacal ~ good luck, hopefully you won't have to be induced! My labour with dd was difficult in the sense that I had to be induced because of high blood pressure but it was still a very quick easy labour. Both labours with my boys were quick, natural non-medicated births so i understand what it's like to feel very apprehensive about an induction, but don't listen to the horror stories! not all inductions are bad! :) i am overall very happy with my induction and birth with dd!

hello to everyone else.. sorry for no more personals right now but we're off to a birthday party in 45 minutes and we're all still in our pyjamas and dd is screaming the house down lol stressful times! better run!

[Inglewood]

where is everyone?? lol

[maybebabythree]

Not enjoying the weather I guess.... I'm still here. I nearly always have baby on my boob on one hand and the phone in the other. I bet your so pleased you didn't start boob feeding with the girls being pickles on the bottle. They would have to design you a bra like the double expressing one for pumping - bit to hold two baby's perminatly in place lol! I am enjoying it more but still waiting for the 'bf is lovely' feeling.

[Kell]

Lol everyone must be guys celebrating our dear queen :S

I'm busy doing course work, only 2 weeks and it's all over :) then I get to panic nest to my hearts content. Got tonnes of cleaning, washing and painting to do

[Inglewood]

Maybe, my laptop always on, so nip on/off all day. Don't always get to read it all, but catch up in drips and drabs.

Think the hormones are really kicking in today, feeling like I could burst into tears any mo. Put the girls onto Aptamil comfort yest and not sure what to do with colief as it reduces the lactose, which the milk is designed to have less of. So that's stressing me, their crying is stressing me. DD1 taking half bottles and choking with the variflow teat which is needed for the comfort milk is worrying me and then went to postnatal shape up today and now sore, the mums with babies were stress free and had quiet babies, not me.... I can't even take them as they are so restless and I was actually envious they only had 1 baby to take out, I can't go anywhere yet without my mum or dh, which involves taking the boys.... in tesco new mums that could take their babies shopping themselves. So all that's bothering me and lots of other niggly things. They are 9wks today! and think dh is looking for some 'bedroom action' now. lol

[Sunset]

Zanacal CONGRATS hun on the birth of your baby girl! she is so beautiful :D how was your labour? enjoy the babymoon! :) :)

[Sunset]

where is everyone?? lol

I'm here now! been busy all weekend so haven't had chance to go online. How are your babies doing?

[Sunset]

I nearly always have baby on my boob on one hand and the phone in the other. .

this sounds just like me :p :rofl:

[maybebabythree]

Yes congrats z - again!

Inglewood it's still really early days hon! It will get better. Have you tried a swing for the wind? Dave is nearly always upright in the day. He is windy too. I use gripe water but I have had to give it during the day before the wind kicks in for the night. I think dh is after some action too but it's been nine months now! I just don't feel like it most days. It's all normal with a newborn (or two!) take your time, it took nine months to get them so why not a few more months to settle into it I saY ;0)

[Kell]

Oh no action is not something I want! Or could even think about wanting lol.
My oh told me he's forgotten how it works the other day lol
I was like a rabbit with ds2 couldn't be any different this time round!

Awww yay congratulations Z so glad to hear your lil lady has arrived.

Oh dear inglewood, hormones have a lot to answer for :( I know tomorrow you will be feeling different and today will be but a memory. Hope you are ok :)

[pinga]

Oh the baby has arrived!! - Congratulations Zanacal!!!!! :D

Inglewood - sounds like you're having a bit of a stressful time at the moment :( Hope the girls become more settled soon! It will all come good... and then all this craziness will be a distant memory!

This is now officially my longest pregnancy - had DS2 at 5:55pm at 38weeks. Can't believe that my pregnancies are getting longer each time?!?!!!! Am soooo ready to have him now though :D He doesn't seem in the slightest bit interested in evacuating though! Dammit!

[Inglewood]

Thanks everyone. we did end up falling out last night.....was gonna happen sometime... did try and get boys to bed, girls settled to have some 'time' together but dd1 cried and it never happened. Think he got a bit huffy after getting his hopes up.....bloody men! I haven't really thought about sex and he makes out that it doesn't bother him...when I'm ready and all that then goes huffy when it doesn't happen.....grrr made me feel guity and I don't need that on top on coliky babies!

managed an hour at mums and tots today...yeah!! got out the house! lol

Pinga, not long now...time creeping up on many of you!! can't wait to see these new babies!

Babymad, u ok? not heard from u a while, even on fb....is he here :)

Gonna go tidy my kitchen while they are sleeping...... pop on later xx

[Sunset]

Inglewood ~ men!! *sigh* I find it hard to get in the mood for sex these days because i'm constantly tired and i've only got 1 baby nevermind 2! It will without doubt get easier when your babies get bigger, but for now just try and enjoy the early baby days because they don't last long.. you and your dh will have lots of time for sex when the girls start sleeping through the night :)

Pinga ~ wow, any day now! ;) i find it hard to keep up with all the smog babies :P seems so many are due around the same time? are you excited to meet him? have you got everything ready?

Maybebaby ~ I love my sling, in fact I couldn't live without my sling! for some reason my dd hates the pram and I think we have only managed one succesful outing in the pram when she hasn't spent the entire time screaming. These days I don't even bother with the pram unless it's raining. I always seem to carry my baby around in the sling :)

Babymad ~ thinking of you! you must be due any day now?

[Sunset]

My oh told me he's forgotten how it works the other day lol


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[pinga]

Just had to post! Just finished making baby's blanket and had to share. Now that I've finished it... he can arrive!!!

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[Mrs_Incredible]

Thanks Nbp! X

Exciting times zanacal! I hope you don't get induced! I hated it both times but saying that ds3 was my best birth by far. Strange isn't it - you think after two they will fly out but nope!

Hey Maybe - how's things?? Was just thinking about trying to contact you through FB last night, but seeing as you never go there didn't bother. Can't believe your sons here already!! And 3 months old (I know this now I can see tickers yay!!)
Hugs xx

[Mrs_Incredible]

Thanks to Indigo reminding me that this thread exists. I was an IG SMOG and hope to be part of this gang too :) xx

[deaks66]

Hi all, am going to catchup with posts very soon but having massive cleanup today... managed to bring half the beach home from our day trip yesterday.... Holkham/Wells Babymad...yeah!!!!

[Mrs_Incredible]

:rofl:

After all the ttc bd'ing the men folk must be really fed up when we're just not that into it after baby is born!! xx

[Mrs_Incredible]

:rofl:

After all the ttc bd'ing the men folk must be really fed up when we're just not that into it after baby is born!! xx

[Petal]

Hi girls,

Hope you all had a fab weekend, Deaks your pics are lovely, your house is beautiful!! as are your 2 gorgeous boys, such lovely dark eyes :-)

Maybe... are you on fb? would love to have you as my friend hehe.

BIG congrats Zanacal, your daughter is perfect!!

Hope your little boy is on his way babymad, i check fb everyday! bet your boys are sooo excited!!!

Inglewood, aww bless you, try and take one day at a time (easier said than done i know) hope the colic soon passes? id it definatly colic they have? my friends baby was really unsettled and would cry all of the time, she changed his milk to another brand and hes like a completely different baby!!!

Hi to Mrs incredible, i too remember you from IG, hope you are well :-)

Hi to all you yummy mummies x

[Sunset]

After all the ttc bd'ing the men folk must be really fed up when we're just not that into it after baby is born!! xx

haha very true :p glad you found us ok!

[Sunset]

Pinga wow I love the blanket! you are so gifted!! :)

Deaks did you meet up with Babymad? :)

When are we planning on having our smog meet up?

[deaks66]

Hi all,
right i finally have a clean sparkly home and two boys in bed...phew!

Thanks for the lovely comments about my house... it took us a long time getting there but we are really enjoying our hard work. And inglewood, im glad we stayed put!

Sunset, no i didn't meet up with babymad in wells, but i know its a favourite beach of hers so thats why i mentioned her!
Seriously anyone who hasn't been there, just has to go! Id love to buy one of the gorgeous beach huts but i found them advertised for a round a whopping £68,000!!!!!! Can u believe it???!

Zanacal, i know i congratulated you on your announcement thread but huge congrats again... she is just gorgeous and im so glad a few of you are getting that contented feeling :)

Pinga, LOVE LOVE LOVE the blanket... you are a clever lady! And yes, now its done, baby needs to show his face so he can be snuggled up in it.... cant wait to see that pic :)

Inglewood, so sorry things are so tough at home. Keep reminding yourself it wont be forever. They say a lot of babies are done with colic at about 12 weeks. FX for you! If there is anymore info i can give you just let me know but if things are really bad don't be afraid to ask the doc for ranitidene. It is brilliant. If he tries to go down the gaviscon route tell him the comfort milk and the gav cant be used together. I personally would stick with the comfort milk over the gaviscon. Oh and ds1's reflux consultant told me that the infacol/gripe/colief don't actually do anything except taste sweet and cheer the little mites up for 2 seconds. So if things are really bad, i personally wouldn't bother with it. And don't worry about dh, he'll get over it. MEN!

Hi everyone else, sorry if i have missed out on some posts. Hope you are all well! X

[deaks66]

Sunset, i really am up for a smog meet up anytime. Did we decide on where and also kids or no kids??? Lets try and get something organised!

[deaks66]

Meant to add, Mrs _Incredible... Hi, lovely to have you join us (again!)

[maybepink3]

Hi all,
Zanacal, huge congratulations on the birth of your daughter. Hope the birth went well and you're home and enjoying every minute.
Just to update, I had another scan tonight, had my bags packed in the car ready to stay in until they'd do a c-section in a week's time and...........the cord has moved out the way. I'm so, so relieved. I found an independent midwife who recommended that I look at the Inversion technique on the spinning babies website so I'd been doing that 3 times a day and it seems it has worked.
Getting lots of Braxton Hicks so wondering when Baby Cuddle is going to make his appearance.
Going to catch up on all the posts now.
Love to everyone xx

[Inglewood]

Morning all!

Petal, have recently wondered if I had changed brands??? as DH not 100% convinced it's colic, but if not, very like it. changed to aptamil comfort now and doing alot better but that's not a long term solution, think they should be back on reg aptamil after 4mths-ish (so HV said). So if they don't settle back on it then could change brand. My SIL swears by cow and gate milk. The boys had aptamil.

Pinga, lovely blanket, wish I could make things like that. Hope he doesn't keep u waiting long :) xx

Girls have the cold, nightmare. Boys had it last week and I knew it would soon get to them, damn the hol wkend! My mum coming to let me get a sleep, shattered.

Pop on later..xx

[pinga]

Maybepink - fantastic news on the cord moving!! You must be feeling so much better. Really not a stress you need! I'm getting lots of Braxton Hicks too - first pregnancy I've experienced them!

Inglewood - you poor tired thing!! Hope you manage to sort the best formula out.

Can't imagine going another 2/3 weeks! Arghhh... I feel like I've been on edge for a possible birth for 3 weeks already. Drives you a bit insane! :) Sorry grumbling here. Not used to going past 38 weeks :D aren't I special?!?

[deaks66]

Inglewood, ds2 stayed on the comfort milk till he was 2!!!! ha ha, he just wouldn't go back to regular or switch to cows milk aged one so when he turned 2 i was like enough's enough, just water for you then!!

[zanacal]

Hi all

Thank you so much for all your well wishes! Sorry I haven't posted yet - I'm reading on my phone while I'm feeding Eliza but I don't can't post long replies! The boys are just arriving back from a very soggy walk with DH so I'm going to have to rush off but here's my birth story and I've just posted an update at the end:

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/announcements/11093-my-baby-girl-here.html

[maybebabythree]

Yay zanacal! Ah such a cutie! All these new baby's are setting off the hormones again!

Mrs I lovely to see you here!!! My facebook for the ig site isn't my main one. I was super paranoid on such a massive site. Under my pet name. Anyone who wants to befriend me on fb please pm
Me. I'm not so paranoid now ;0)

X

[indigoviolet]

Congrats Zanacal!! great news!

Mrs I, lovely lovely lovely to have you back in the gang :HH:

Charlie- you look amazing at that wedding, I'm going to one in a few weeks and am feeling HUGE, need some ideas on what to wear, where did you get your dress?

Had ds1's 5th birthday party/ day yesterday, totally great but exhausting, he is such a cutie and I can't believe he's so big. I'm totally knackered now after that and then having boys all day here in rain (being half term not being able to get my essential nap lol) so off to bed.

lots of love to you all and will catch up again soon :HH:

[Mrs_Incredible]

Yay zanacal! Ah such a cutie! All these new baby's are setting off the hormones again!

Mrs I lovely to see you here!!! My facebook for the ig site isn't my main one. I was super paranoid on such a massive site. Under my pet name. Anyone who wants to befriend me on fb please pm
Me. I'm not so paranoid now ;0)

X

Hey Maybe, I'll pm you for FB xx

[charlieispy]

Hey all

Sorry yet again awol x Z your little girl is beautiful congratulations x loving all the pink outfits! Very jealous ;)

Deaks - mmmmm wells I freaking love that place its where we go too even though its over 2 hours it so worth it x hope you had good weather - definitely up for meeting there if we can sort out a date x

indigo - awww thanks i feel HUGE and for me i am bump wise! It was my BF wedding and even she said WOW you are big lol x i got my dress from asos but it was a while back - look in the sale maternity section its french connection £160 reduced to £30!!!

Inglewood - huge hugs for the colicy twinnies did you get anywhere with making an appointment to have them oestopathed or something? Have you tried massage? I used to have to massage ds1 every nappy change to help relieve his - he would be fine in the day till about 4 then hellish so if i massaged him in the day night was better x hope it eases soon x x

babymad - how are you doing x induction monday??? Thinking of you

Pinga - eeeeeeee am sure you will pop soon x loving the blanket must post a pic of my finished one x bet you cant wait to use it x

WAVES to all x well knackered as busy week lots of park trips, walks, wedding, baking midwife tomorrow to book in for homebirth! LOADS of BH painful now and not sleeping well = hormonal crying me GD back with force :( washing machine still not fixed i broke the iron yesterday knocking it off the board with my bump!! and today my phone died so had to have it sent off to be fixed - up to 14days and then pay for a crap replacement one as they had no loan phones.....grrrrrrr thats 3 things now so FX i get some luck now! - like a new washing machine before the weekend I WISH x

hugs to you all ladies x x big love x x off to bed now x x

[deaks66]

Oh charlie, seems like not much going right for you at the moment and that is never going to help the GD. Wish there was something we could do to help! U don't live too far away so feel free to bring washing over! :) Cant wait for your little man to arrive as i just know he is going to make you so happy.

Ladies, im going to the wells area for a 2 week hol last week july and first week august so if anyone is around 21/22nd july, 28/29 jul or 4/5 Aug then i will obviously be there (with family or without as i can easily dispose of them for a day!). Failing that, if anyone is keen to come to my town (st albans), its really easy to get to as its on the M1 and i would be happy to arrange a lovely afternoon tea (we have a lovely local hotel that does amazing afternoon tea) for a different weekend followed by perhaps a night out if anyone keen to stay overnight. Not sure how it would work with kids/dads... i think a trip to the beach might be better for that! anyway just some thoughts as if we don't get the ball rolling it wont happen!

Zanacal... hows it going with dd? hope all well

Maybepink, so glad things looking to be back on track!

Hi everyone else X

[deaks66]

Babymad, only another couple of days to go (unless he's already here of course!)! yay!!!!!

[zanacal]

I've been wondering about Babymad too! Any news?

Charlie - you look amazing in every photo I see of you! That dress was a real bargain :D Wow, have you had some bad luck lately - I don't think you need the hormones excuse for all that to get on top of you!

It's utter chaos here, half-term really wasn't the best week for a new baby! DH took the boys out for a walk this afternoon and was gone for 3 hours!! I can't believe he made a 2 year old walk for that long over fields and through woods but apparently they all managed fine. The bigger two have just had a massive bust up over the right words for a rhyme (ip dip do, doggy done a poo, who stepped on it, it was you!!) and have woken the baby up. I don't think she's too fussed but as soon as she opens her eyes they're right there in her face so there's no chance of her going back to sleep! This morning Eliza had her heel prick test and I fed her while it was being done - after which she did the most amazing projectile vomit you've ever seen. I was covered in it, she was covered in it - and when I looked at DH he was sat on his phone reading work emails!! I still feel pretty crappy physically, I ache all over and feel weak and light headed. I hope it won't last much longer! I know next week will be much better and calmer once the boys are back at school and by the summer holidays I'll have a better handle on things. I feel like that was far too moany. It's weird when you've just had a baby because everything can be getting on top of you but at the same time you're elated with the new baby - and she's such a little sweetheart, bless her :D

[Kell]

Oh gosh Z, Lily is due the day the summer holidays start and you've just made me realise I'm going to have 3/4 kids with no get out for 6 weeks lol wonder if they will let me go six weeks over due lol

So glad that she seems to be doing well, hope u feel better soon and that the boys are being helpful :) I missed the pictures of her but I'm sure she is just lovely :)

[maybebabythree]

Z my boys are like that with bubs - right in his face all the time - poor kid. I bet he is wishing he was the first child of a rich family!! Heehee! I'm really enjoying it now. A few weeks and you will feel tons better physically. Re your boys lol! Ah we can never be to smug even if we do graduate to smog status. With our lovely boys there will always be mud and talk of poo however many girls we have! If I had my dd my boys scrapping would stop me looking smug. She would be in the mosh of it pulling hair and wrestling too. But she would darn cute doing it. Your very lucky and I'm over the moon for you x

Deaks I have no idea where you live as geography is not a strong point but dh says St Albans is about sixty miles away - I thought it was Liverpool!

Charlie - my washing machine always breaks down after I give birth but not this time. I love washing, the only house work I have to do religiously. When my washing went I had to wait weeks for a new one. When the dish washer went dh was out the door in a flash and got a new one that day in the back of my car. Men!!

Packing up my baby bits today. Urgh hormones!! I want another, I can't help it. No more babies makes me sad. Doesn't help that my baby's are to darn cute. Dave was so cute in his bath today splashing like a wild thing. He makes me so happy. I am so blessed. I think I'm going to explode with happiness one day. Even with the mess and puke and poop. I just love it. Wish you could stop time or bottle feelings. As right now everything seems perfect.

[maybebabythree]

Kell bad timing that you have all the kids with lily but the bonus is no excuse to get dressed or leave the house!

[deaks66]

Maybe, yeah st albans def not too far away from you, charlie and a couple of others (though i cant remember who...oops!). In fact really easy to get to from any of the south east, london, east and midlands areas. Those who live far south or far north would definitely find it harder. Wells probably a bit of a mission for everyone other than those who actually live in Norfolk but well worth the trip if we are up for a weekend. Im easy though, what would everyone prefer and when are they free?

My friends with girls say they are just as bad with the playing in mud and talking about poo so don't reckon its much difference except they do it in skirts and wellies instead of trousers and wellies!!!

[maybebabythree]

Deaks either sounds good with me. Summer hols would be better for the beach as we'd need a hotel it's to far for a one day drive with the kids x

[Kell]

I'm just up the road from you Deaks :)
I think I'm gonna have to leave you guys to do your planning and see if I can slot in. I'm due 22nd July. My dp is going away to south Africa for two weeks at the end of August so if anything then would probably be good for me, but would obviously be dependant on the new person arriving lol

[Inglewood]

Z, know what u mean! I had the twins day 2 of the easter school hols, so had almost 2wks of the boys at home... I'm still an a'fuzzy' dream-like state, physically feel about 90 and light-headed, waiting for it to get better, but it won't till they sleep all night, I get into a routine and loose a few pounds!

Def wouldn't make Wells, not sure where St Albans is???

Girls been on comfort milk for almost a week, 1st few days great, past 2 days awful, so gonna stop the colief drops and just try milk on it's own. Deaks did u notice it separating in the bottle??? weird!

Babymad, wow monday!!! must of missed that!

Charlie, pics on fb great! x

[Inglewood]

Funny how time goes by and where we are all at now.... was at the toilet today and saw some Ewcm and thought, must be ovulating!!! before my sway I'd never of known that..... made me think a year ago no I had just started my diet beg may.

[charlieispy]

definitely up for a meet up st albans isnt far for me x am bloody knackered just gutted the house x

babymad good luck thinking of you x x

[deaks66]

Z, know what u mean! I had the twins day 2 of the easter school hols, so had almost 2wks of the boys at home... I'm still an a'fuzzy' dream-like state, physically feel about 90 and light-headed, waiting for it to get better, but it won't till they sleep all night, I get into a routine and loose a few pounds!

Def wouldn't make Wells, not sure where St Albans is???

Girls been on comfort milk for almost a week, 1st few days great, past 2 days awful, so gonna stop the colief drops and just try milk on it's own. Deaks did u notice it separating in the bottle??? weird!

Babymad, wow monday!!! must of missed that!

Charlie, pics on fb great! x

Inglewood, st albans is in hertfordshire, literally just north of london. Yes the comfort milk will separate if left for any amount of time. DS2 was always a guzzler so that never really happened except if he left any. I guess just keep shaking it if the girls are slow feeders... and thats where the reflux bottles would come in handy as they would dispel the air bubbles caused by shaking before the girls drank it.

Oh yes kell, now i remember that its you who lives quite close by, i knew it was someone!

[deaks66]

Ridiculous i know but its been really peeing me off this week that one of my tickers says... 'if baby is a girl....' It had better move on to the next thing soon or im gonna delete it! Does anyone else think gd has sent them slightly mad?!

[maybebabythree]

Ridiculous i know but its been really peeing me off this week that one of my tickers says... 'if baby is a girl....' It had better move on to the next thing soon or im gonna delete it! Does anyone else think gd has sent them slightly mad?!
Yep - what with hormones you can quite defensive ;0)

[maybebabythree]

How many of you are open with dh about this forum? Most of us I guess as most have demanded a) non sto sex b) no sex c) sex but only at midnight on the last Friday of the month while facing the north pole in a hot bath of vinegar making sure that you don't enjoy it while clenching a pink Rose inbetween your teeth.

Just thinking if we did all drive to meet up how many would need dh there. They would all be thinking 'hmm his wifes mad!, hang on - my wifes barking bonkers too!'. Dh never reads this but still - do any of your blokes read this?

[deaks66]

Yep my dh knows about this forum (though has never wanted to have a read or anything), thinks I'm bonkers and thinks you're all bonkers too! Saying that he did go along with the swaying and has said he will do the same with the pgd so I think that probably makes him somewhat bonkers too! I have to be honest, I don't think he would be hugely up for tagging along but again would probably do it if I wanted him to... Can you tell who wears the trousers in our relationship?!

[maybebabythree]

Deeks - mine too! He thinks I'm nuts but he did thinking swaying would work so he's as crazy as me ;-) I do wonder if this will all come out in a divorce court one day lol! Dh was also asking his friend what Cyprus is like for our next holiday as well. I know he doesn't read this or he wouldn't be talking to me most days...

[maybebabythree]

Ha ha! Hit the share button then - wth does that do??! Don't want to share this on fb. I would be even trouble with dh

[Kell]

My dp knows I am on a few websites but has no idea which ones and wouldn't read them either. He went along with swaying but was skeptical like us all, he thought I was crazy even before knowing about my Internet friends lol! And he thinks I'm even more mental when I meet up with 'my baby website' friend!
I'm pretty sure he would not come with me! Not his cuppa tea at all lol

[Petal]

Congrats Babymad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Your little boy is just gorgeous, much love to you hun!! x x x

[deaks66]

Made my day to log onto fb and see babymad has had her bubs and gorg he is too! congrats again hun! X

[indigoviolet]

Congratulations Babymad!!So so happy he is here and birth was good, he is absolutely gorgeous, lots of love to you :HH:

Maybebaby- sorry to take so long to reply, I guess any left over bits and bobs would be useful. I hope you are not too sad getting sorted with stuff and getting rid of things ((hugs)). I know I will find it desperately hard. I'm fine with clothes generally as didn't get rid of anything from the ds's, I guess I knew there was a strong possibility number 3 would be a boy.

My dh has known about this thread since IG days and is really sweet about my 'efforts'. He knows I check in all the time and how this and all you ladies have been a part of my life for so long. He'll ask 'how is maybebaby pink baby-girl-mad' making up funny names for everyone! He was so onboard with the swaying and COULD NOT believe we were having ds3! He is happy about 3 boys but so sympathetic to me.

Deaks- yes, pregnancy is making me extra sensitive and slightly gd mad too! your boys are gorgeous btw.

charlie- I looked up the dress but they had sold out, will just have to improvise with what I have. I guess no one is expecting me to look especially great at 7months pg.

I'm near maybebaby and would love a meet up but like Kell, will have to play it a lot by ear depending on baby.

lots of love to you all

[maybebabythree]

Congratulations babymad! What a cutie! Well done avoiding the induction too xxx

[zanacal]

Congratulations Babymad, he's lovely! Sounds like it went really well for you too :-D

[Petal]

Deaks, id be defo up for travelling to North London, id prob bring dh and ds3 as id get lost on my own, probably end up in Wales or somewhere lol. When is a good weekend for everyone? Oooh exciting!!

I also noticed your ticker before you mentioned it, got to me too!

Keep thinking of you babymad, we need more pics of your gorge little man!!!

Zanacal, bless your boys, mine argue all the time, drives me insane! back to school tomorrow yippppeeee :-))

Gosh, there seems to be tons of babys due on here in the next few weeks!! Makes me broody lol x

[maybebabythree]

Petal all these babies make me broody to and I still have a newborn - god help me!

[charlieispy]

CONGRATS babymad - whooooop whooop for no induction homebirth and a very beautiful baby boy <3 he is gorgeous

full term according to scan dates here now!!! Still no washing machine though so not too fussed if I have a few weeks left.....i may change my mind on that though ;)

[Sunset]

awesome, i just wrote a short novel and accidently pressed return so now it's all gone! :hair:

Babymad ~ CONGRATS on the birth of your beautiful son! he is so gorgeous!!!! xxxx

what's been decided regarding the meet up? where/date/time?

afm, I do apologise for being so awol these days! I'm currently fighting to get my youngest son some speech therapy but everywhere I go I am met with "why dont you wait a while longer, all children are different" bla bla bla bla. I went to see the health visitors 3 months ago when i first raised my concerns but they didnt want to refer him any further and told me to wait and well, 3 months passed and I got tired of waiting! Booked an appointment to see the gp, thinking he would take me serious. I had to wait over 2 weeks for the appointment, only to be told that they don't do referrals for speech therapy, so i have to go back to the health visitors! I rang them this morning and they're on holiday (of course) for another 2 weeks.. I am sooooo frustrated that nobody takes my concerns seriously. The gp today did say it looks like ds2 has got dull ears so was kind enough to write a letter to the health visitors, prompting them to start an evaluation/examination. At least now they won't be able to fob me off again! If only someone would have took me serious 3 months ago! we would have then been well on our way of getting the help we need *big sigh* is it like this in all of the UK?

[Sunset]

but on a positive note - we have cracked the potty training!!!! I now have 2 children out of nappies instead of just 1 :cheerteam:

[Inglewood]

Congratulations Babymad He's gorgeous. Great weight too!! :) Home birth too, amazing!

My Dh knows about this site and doesn't believe in swaying, says it's all chance...but he went along with EVERYTHING I asked, so he must of believed a small part of it would work?? He's not read anything, that I know of!! lol Thankfully after cursing him a few days ago....lol

I wish I could meet up, but too far with the kids, could maybe bring ds1/2, but the prob twins too much on my own just yet as I'd have to stay overnight, too much of a drive for me alone? or travel on the train all day. Dh might come and drive me down, but would stay out the way for the 'meet up'.

[maybebabythree]

Inglewood if we go to wells dh might go with me as would make a trip of it but said he's locking himself in the hotel room or staying in the bar lol!

Sunset I have the same issues with ds. At 18 months I knew things was not right with him as he couldn't walk talk or understand. I still wonder if his a bit autistic. It took a year to be seen. He goes every six months with no help just told he's at the low end of normal - it will come. Guess what? He never did catch up! You get f all help in the uk unless you are a crack head- sorry but that's the way I see it. They look at me - middle class graduate and just think get on with it. Long long story with us. I have piling my hair out for years but have found out some useful things. If you have a sure start centre near you they were very very helpful with advice for me. 100 times better then salt or pead. Sorry feeding now so typing left handed on phone. Also mums net was ace for advice - any problems you can ever have with kids in the uk there are some people been there and done it on that site (also lots of nutters too but the salt advice was great) let me know if I can help and I will dig out some info for you x

[Babymad]

Hi Girls...

Thanks for all your lovely messages, means a lot xxx
Still in shock that he is here and he arrived at home!!! I was so prepared (but fed up) to be induced again so delighted I finally got a home birth - it was amazing. Baby is a bruiser :) His head is very swollen at the moment so hoping that eases soon, none of the others had that so seems strange!!
I'm not breast feeding and feel very relieved not to have the pressure - i did try but with all mine and its never really happened - I haven't given up this early before but I didn't have 3 other kids to look after before - we don't have any family to help so I can't just sit and feed all day whilst someone helps out - I have to do everything so I have to be organised!!
Sorry I didn't catch up with you all before he arrived - I didn't have a good couple of weeks to be honest.
Very pleased he is here now and it was lovely to have so many lovely comments on FB too :)
Will catch up properly soon - it is great to know I have you all close by xxx

[deaks66]

Lovely to hear from you babymad! So glad birth was such a positive experience and i definitely think you are doing the right thing not breast feeding...it just doesn't suit everyone. Mind you i am one of the (dare i say it) few pro-bottle people in the world! Cant wait to hear the full story and also how you are feeling about it all now. He really is lovely and i hope the swelling settles soon. Your dh and ds1 look so happy in the pics, cant wait to see one of you with him soon :) Enjoy these early days and keep as posted when you can. Much love from our end! X

[maybebabythree]

Yay babymad! He looks like a dink in the photos. Really cute! Can't belive you managed at home too! Bf with two kids is a pain it's true. I have to top up as I can't sit and feed all day either. Glad you choose what's best for you. I don't have strong feelings about formula or bf. It's just what makes mum happy. God knows I have had hell feeding all my boys. But I enjoy the marter-Dom!

Hope his head settles soon, poor thing and hope you start to feel better to and less achey. X

[maybebabythree]

Hmm my eldest is giving me parenting advise now

Your not supporting his head....

He cant see sitting like that....

Your treating him like a doll....

He is falling down your lap, hold him properly...

Have you changed his nappy?...

Anyone else have this? Who needs a mil?

[deaks66]

Sunset, sorry you're having a crappy time with health visitors/docs etc. Im afraid the nhs seems very hit and miss in my area too. Sometimes they can be fantastic and sometimes hopeless. I hope you get things looked at very soon and that everything turns out fine with your ds2. Great news at least about his potty training....well done! I have just been thinking about when to tackle my ds2. Either need to tackle it over the summer before bubs or wait till next spring when he will be more ready but i will have my hands more full. Same goes for switching him into ds1's room and a bed. Do it before bubs and get him settled but probably say goodbye to daytime naps and mega long night time sleeping or do it just before bubs needs his room but that could be risky if it doesn't go well!

Charlie, yay for being full term.... lets hope you get your washing machine sorted soon and then bubs makes a lovely early/on time appearance like babymads little man!

Inglewood, i hope things are improving at home... at least with dh if not the twins!

As for our meet up, i cant quite gauge from everyone what they would prefer to do. hmmmm how can we sort this out? Would be a shame for the summer to pass and not meet up, even if its just a few of us!

[deaks66]

Maybe, i cant imagine having an 8 year old in the house. My eldest still seems so young! Sweet that he cares so much even if its doing your head in!

[deaks66]

oh and sunset, im with maybe, try sure start if you have one near you!

[Petal]

Aww babymad, so glad your little boy is here!! you must be relieved, hope you're feeling better now and that the aches n pains have gone!

Maybe, dh knows im on here and i tell him about you all :-) obviously not ALL the details but he knows about this site.

Ah Inglewood, i hope you can meet up with us all, bring your dh to help! im bringing mine (i think) we can leave them all in a pub haha. I was thinking... maybe we should arrange the finer details by email incase we get any weirdo's turn up LOL

Ds3 has 2 teeth and is 7 months today! Hes such a little tresure and brings us sooo much happiness x

[deaks66]

Petal, i love hearing about your ds3, he is just so lovely! So glad you are up for the meet up!

[maybebabythree]

Yes let's sort finer details off line.

Ha ha re weirdos. Just us rice and boiled chicken eaters. Sorry couldn't resist! ;0)

[Babymad]

Deaks ~ I'm not feeling too bad at the moment, to be honest I am just so pleased not to be pregnant anymore, I really didn't enjoy the pregnancy at all. Hormones seem quite stable at the moment, I'm sure they will kick in soon!! DH at home this week so just hiding at home, no school run etc, not sure how I will feel when I have to face the big wide world next week!
I am trying my hardest not to keep thinking about 'what if' as I know that's not healthly for anyone - bit it's hard.

So you still haven't got confirmation you are having a boy then - you could still have a pink one cooking in there?? :)

Petal ~ I feel like I have been beaten up over and over - every bit of of my body hurts - I'm no spring chicken and my body is defo telling me that!

Maybe ~ LOL at your eldest, where did he hear those sayings in the first place :) My eldest has been fab bless him, he is going to be the perfect babysitter :)

I'm up for a meet up - Wells is best for me, we would have to stay for the weekend as too far to travel for the day, so we would come as a family.

Sunset ~ love the pic of you and DD :)

Charlie ~ yay for full term, have you had a home birth before?

Hi to everyone else, sorry for those I've missed, going to have a bath whilst I can still stay awake! :)

[maybebabythree]

My eldest has only heard that from mum. He just ozzezes mummynes! It really lovely he is so caring about lo. I felt bad for over a month post birth. Best just to do as little as possible for as long as youcan. Xxx

[indigoviolet]

Great to hear from you Babymad, glad the hormones are stable so far and I really hope you can enjoy these early weeks as much as possible. Home birth sounds amazing, I'm very impressed!

Yay for being term Charlie- are you hoping he comes early or are you going to enjoy the last few weeks of peace? (relatively lol)

Maybe- your ds1 sounds so sweet. Will text you for a meet up soon.

Petal- glad you are loving ds3 so much, gives me a lot of hope and makes me look forward to having 3 boys of my own!:HH:

sunset- sorry you are having so much trouble getting the help you need :( hope you are on the right track now and things will move a bit faster. serena looks beautiful btw :)

love to you all, sleep well, see you tomorrow :HH:

[Petal]

Sunset, sorry you are having probs with getting your son seen! My ds1 has hearing problems, well he failed his hearing test at school when he was 4 (hes now 11) got a hospital appointment and they just said he has ear wax!! so that was that. Hes always suffered with earache and the other month his ear was bleeding, so took him to A&E, he had antibiotics. Went for a follow up at the docs and ds1 said his ear was blocked and he couldnt hear, so doc said i had to make an appointment with the school nurse to get referred to the hospital, so another 3 weeks and saw the school nurse, reduced hearing in both ears so back to the docs, he looked at the form and has referred him, now waiting for an appointment at the hospital, aghrrrr, this has been going on since the begining of bloody april!!!!!!!! poor boy cant hear properly and no appointment in sight! I know theres children with much worse and i shouldnt complain but.... sigh. Anyway, just wanted to say i understand what you are going through sunset, they did think that ds1 would need speech therapy for a while when he started school, he speech was a little unclear and even now sometimes if he talks fast he has to repeat himself, i think its all down to his ears and not being able to hear properly.
Sorry for the rant, ive gone off on one a tad lol x

[Petal]

Babymad, glad you're ok! take your time and rest, dont do too much too soon, just be with your little boy and take time to bond, he is sooo yummy!!!! Who does he look like do you think? Cant wait to hear his name :-)
I dont think you need to worry too much about 'facing the world' you've had sooo many lovely comments on fb!! People dont tend to make silly remarks once the baby is here. You be proud, you have a beautiful family and as someone wrote on your fb... 4 boys is something really special :-)) x x

[Petal]

Thanks Deaks and Indigo, ds3 is just an amazing little boy, hes so happy and makes me smile and laugh everyday, he does the funniest things and has such a cheeky little face, just love his company :-) x

[Inglewood]

Lovely to hear from you Babymad, I too am a bottle-feeding mama after failing miserably after a few weeks with the boys. Couldn't imagine trying to BF twins and so so admire anyone for giving it a go! Is he the biggest weight out of your babies? Love the recent fb pic of him and daddy!

maybe, lol loved ur last comment...

Deaks, I have a 9yr old, he is 10 in Nov, that is scary!! Used the white noise today :) :) :) Dh went a bit mental as my elderly neighbour yapped for ages while DD1 was screaming ( I didn't hear as back door closed) and he couldn't eat his tea....OMG!! boo bloody hoo! MEN! Welcome to my breakfast, lunch and tea-time!

Mentioned Wells to DH, he just mumbled...so think he would go down but not 'meet'up, he'd leave that toall us lot, he's quite a shy guy.

Better go, girlies asleep...my turn! x

[Kell]

Awww Babymad congratulations on your little mans arrival :) I bet he is lovely :)

Sorry don't have much time I'll be back when my college stuff is handed In :)

[pinga]

Congratulations Babymad! He's gorgeous!! And how wonderful that you got a homebirth and NO induction!!! :D Enjoy these early days and don't fret about what people might say. You have a gorgeous family x

Oh dear Sunset - sounds like a bit of a stress to get seen. I don't really know how it works over there anymore! Hope you manage to see someone soon.

Still waiting here... noooo sign of baby!!!! Spent 6 hours at the hospital on Friday for fetal monitoring... damn blood pressure! Çan't believe this is my longest pregnancy!!! I've been on "baby arrival alert" for 4 weeks already. Went to cinema yesterday (Queen's Birthday Public holiday here) to the Gold Class - needed to take my mind off the waiting!! Mind you DS2 has been sick for about 3 weeks. He has a really nasty cold at the moment so really want him to shift that before baby arrives - he coughs all night and has so much mucous on his chest. Poor thing! I'm knackered as he is up all night whimpering.

Anyways - DS1 is very grumpy today (disturbed last night by DS2) so need to find something to entertain him...

[Babymad]

Petal ~ So pleased you are enjoying DS3 so much :) Yes, that comment brought a tear to my eye, I need to be more positive but after having 4/5 months of such negative comments it's hard not to be defensive but so far everyone has been very nice let's hope it stays that way when I am out and about! :) x

Inglewood ~ Men are defo a breed on their own :) Have you managed to have a bit of time together yet? A meal at home or cinema? Maybe your mum could have the kids for an hour whilst you do something together - just helps to have time to talk for a few minutes without getting stressed with each other, easier said than done though I know!! How are the girls doing? x
Yes, this baby is our biggest :)Theyhave got bigger each time which apparently is normal, baring in mind all mine are over cooked too!:) The placenta was huge and very painful to deliver!

Indigo ~ Thx Hun x How are you feeling? Hope you are doing well x

Pinga ~ I hope baby arrives soon! The last few weeks are hard going! Sending labour vibes Hun x

Charlie ~ How are you doing? X

Deaks~ we need a bump pic! X

Kell ~ GL with the course work!

Bubs slept better last night so got a couple of hours sleep, he is getting use to the bottle now :)
Loving the newborn cuddles :)
DH is smitten and so are the boys - even though they are getting cross that we haven't chosen a name!! :)

[Sunset]

oh and sunset, im with maybe, try sure start if you have one near you!

I have been back and forth to my local surestart centre like a yo yo since february.. never get any help there. It's a completely useless service :(

[Sunset]

Sunset, sorry you're having a crappy time with health visitors/docs etc. Im afraid the nhs seems very hit and miss in my area too. Sometimes they can be fantastic and sometimes hopeless. I hope you get things looked at very soon and that everything turns out fine with your ds2. Great news at least about his potty training....well done! I have just been thinking about when to tackle my ds2. Either need to tackle it over the summer before bubs or wait till next spring when he will be more ready but i will have my hands more full. Same goes for switching him into ds1's room and a bed. Do it before bubs and get him settled but probably say goodbye to daytime naps and mega long night time sleeping or do it just before bubs needs his room but that could be risky if it doesn't go well!


it's so hard to know when to do these things. I would have prefered to potty train ds2 around his second birthday but it was winter then and that would have been no good so i decided to wait until the summer.. so obviously he's quite big now (2 years 7 months) and i figured because he's older it would be much easier but definitely not! he's the kind of kid who wants to run before he can walk so when he started having accidents he got very frustrated and upset and simply lost interest in the potty training.. i was frustrated too to bed honest.. decided to leave it a couple of weeks and then started again, same thing happened and i nearly gave up again but decided to buy him some stickers for his potty and let him decorate it himself :) and that made him all excited about his potty again and everything just seemed to click into place :)
we decided to get ds2 settled in a big boys bed before i had the baby, but it was surprisingly easy with ds2. perhaps because he shares a room with ds1

[Sunset]

Maybebaby ~ the reason no one wants to see my ds2 is because he's completely normal in all other aspects of his development, but the speech. My kids are also bilingual which is yet another reason why they think he's just a bit slow at talking, but he's 2 years and 7 months now and altough he has alot of words which I can understand - no one else can! so there is no doubt in my mind that he needs speech therapy. He might just be slow at talking or have dull ears that need cleaning or he might have something more serious like dyspraxia but unless he gets evaluated we'll never know the cause so it frustrates me to no end that no one listens to me... and it's only 5 months until he starts nursery and the thought of the kids picking on him because they can't understand him breaks my heart.

[Sunset]

Petal ~ wow a year!! that's shocking! your little boy sounds so cute :D I can't believe he has 2 teeth already, how cute!!!

Babymad ~ congratulations again!!! he really is so precious! love the photo of him and dad on fb!

hello to everyone else!!! Why dont we just decide on a weekend? how about last weekend in july or the first weekend in august? have we decided on wells? I'll be bringing my kids and hubby along as there is no way on earth i dare to do such a long drive on my own just yet x

[Wishing4Pink]

Huge congratulations on your gorgeous scrummy little boy Babymad x

[charlieispy]

I can do either wells or deaks st albans x i think it would be a good idea to get a weekend down so we can keep it free i can do those weekends sunset mentioned as long as i pop around EDD x not sure if DH would come i think he would.....although he may look at me like i am mad!

Babymad - just wanted to say LOVE YOU hope you choose a name soon x he is dreamy x x

waves to all so not even contemplating this baby coming yet EVERYTHING is breaking its a bloody nightmare x washing machine iron phone now a friend snapped my wooden highchair, and my wooden coffee chest one of the hinges has snapped think ds1 jumped on it AARRGGGHHHHH got to run but be back later so bloody tired at mo cant wait to sleep on my front!

[maybebabythree]

Poor you Charlie! I wonder who is going to have lo first you or pinga?

Feel like dropping ATM busy busy and no shrike week. Sunset - I could talk all day about speech! Can you find the number for your salt team? If so phone them and ask how long the waiting list is. I wouldn't be surprised if it's over a year. Nursery can refer you to salt as well, they might actually be your best hope. Could you spare £100 for a private assessment? My son was pronounced deaf once but I still got no help as sixonths later he was ok. Pretty sure he has glue ear but again dispite doing everything I get no where. I am hoping school will be able to helpe but it's all tillage as je is give in oct. Oldest in year and still behaves like a to year old. Being deaf and slow to talk can put them back academically

[maybebabythree]

Dang - sorry I phone is a might mare for tying on! I'm not trying to master French!

I have A few friends with bi- lingual kids. That should not be a reason to be a slow talker from what I have seen. My friends girl only talks in Danish and English at once mixing her words when she has to rush words out from what her mum tells me

[Inglewood]

I did the RAC route finder, for me wells is 7hrs and over 300miles. If Dh doesn't come doubt I'll make it :( Too far away for me and 4 kids and even though I could bring my mum to help with kids, she can't drive. My Dh works 6 days a week too and gets every 6th wk off. Not sure when those wks are due over the summer, will ask him. Really hope I could come, but Dh wouldn't be up for meeting everyone, your all so lucky if your dh's will. I will keep an eye on the plans and send me any emails about it and I can try my very best to come. :)

Had my post natal shape up today, it's ok, not too hard. Met some nice mum's there, mostly first time mums, made me sad to think my baby days are over (she says with 2 10wks old's!! lol). But you know what I mean, sad to think that's the Womb closed for business! Trying to get Dh to go for the snip, I've more than done my bit and after 3 sections, no more abdominal op's for me, unless vital. They don't sterilise women up here during sections. He says he won't go! mmm, we'll see! lol

Babymad, yes, we got a couple of hours the other day together while my mum took girls to optitian to get ds2's glasses fixed. It was nice, but he was a bit grumpy after work! Your dh did look very proud in the pic and so he should such a bonnie wee boy he's holding in his arms! Can't wait to hear his name, my ds2 didn't have a name till he was almost 4 days old. Kept calling him ds1's name as he looked so like him as a baby. Hope ur enjoying the new baby feelings and cuddles.

Feeling so so tired and again envious when the mum's today said their babies younger than mine are sleeping all night, or for 6hrs a time..... my boys did that, but girls are nappers. During the day 10-30 mins here and there. Yet they made my out to be a liar by sleeping thru the whole hour class!! They do like music and I put MTV on in the backgroud to calm things, works sometimes!

Dh taken boys to swim lessons, so better go get tea on, if the girls let me!

[deaks66]

Hi ladies, just a quickie. Right it looks like the last weekend of july is perhaps a good one to organise the wells meet up. I will be in Norfolk on hols then anyway so thats gonna be the only time i can get over there in the summer hols really. My dh would probably be up for tagging along if the weather is good and we can be on the beach. That way he can escape if he wants to but actually i think he would be well up for a game of footie with loads of little boys and dads! If the weather is crap i could suss out a soft play where again any dads can escape. If most dh's not up for the actual meeting, we can think of a different meet up point over there. For those who cant make it over there i am happy to get a second date in and meet somewhere more convenient to those who cant do July. What do you all think? Soooo my proposal is, email me on here and let me know your thoughts as to wells weekend july 28th/29th, or a second date and location that could be easier for you if that one cant be made, also whether dh's/kids are likely to be there and i will try and get some kind of plan together. Does that sound ok? X

[indigoviolet]

Hiya ladies!

hope you are all ok.

I would love to do a meet up but baby due early August....if he comes early, might be possible...Like Inglewood said, I'll keep in the loop with the plans and see how things pan out.

Charlie- hope you manage to get your washer sorted soon, btw your bumps are just lovely, i wish I looked that good. i'm feeling HUGE!!

Babymad- can you tell us about the homebirth? I can't imagine doing it here at home. Were the boys in the house? How far along were you when the midwife arrive? Do they 'clear up'? I hadn't thought of it as an option but I guess it is... Loving the pics of your new bundle and so glad you are enjoying the babycuddles :) You do have an amazing family.

[maybebabythree]

Sorry quick rant as I'm upset. Dh is on a course in London. I had ds2 welcome to school meeting tonight and had to ask neighbours to babysit the older boys and I took dave. It went on longer than I thought so was worried about my neighbours with the boys. Ds2 as I have said before is like a two year old and hardly talks. I wanted to talk to his teachers but had to rush home. My father in law live half a mile from us. He never shows interest in
My kids. I was feeling sad about how ds is going to cope at school so phoned dh. Fil is pissing up in London with dh while my neighbours look after his grandsons. I can't talk to ds new teacher as I have to rush home. I just feel so sad fil is so bloody crap. That's all. No need to reply. Just a vent. You can't make people love your kids it's true. Still it hurts. My boys are amazing and he doesn't even know them. His loss

[charlieispy]

HUGE hugs maybe - could you phone the school and request a phonecall from his teacher or a seperate meeting?? Might be worth trying - DS1 was a VERY slow speaker he couldnt even ask to use the loo when he started in f1 at 3.5 he only said mummy when he was 2.5 and just very slow at communicating in general - i was convinced he was autistic and even now although he is clever he finds it hard to convey what he is thinking - his mind works faster than his ability to speak. He is a kooki little dude and i think possbily on a very low spectrum of austism but he has caught up - this year at school he started behind and all of a sudden something clicked his reading is outstanding now, he still struggles with his writing but oh my he has outdone himself. He is so lovely and placid and has an amazing imagination I still worry as i think he will struggle later with bullying etc but just to give you hope that sometimes it takes a while for things to fall into place - he also has lots of problems with ears nose and throat too!!!

Indigo - homebirths are amazing :D i had one with ds3 it was fantastic - you are best if you want to try one to let your mw know asap and they can book you in and give you a home visit at 37wks. It is so relaxing to be at home before and after the birth no messing around, it isnt messy at all - you will need a shower curtain and some old towels but literally I had no mess other than wet towels from my waters being popped as ds3 was born in the membranes. The mw popped my towels in the machine for me, they take the placenta with them, make you tea, make sure you get washed and changed etc and once all sorted leave to enjoy your baby! I have quick labours i rang in at 5pm my MW arrived just after 5.30 had ds3 at 6.30!!! Only one mw as the other didnt make it in time but she was amazing barely knew she was there. By 9pm we were sat on the sofa with ds3 asleep between us eating a wagamama takeout :D have booked in for a homebirth again!! ds1 is going to be there too!!! If everyone makes it in time scared this one will be even quicker!!

Right i should go try and sleep am shattered but i dont think i will be able to :( busy day tomorrow too and realised i dont even have any nappiesfor baby yet -god i am crap!! Better go get some!

much love to all x x

[charlieispy]

oh and maybe my FIL is shite too x ds3 asked "who dat" to a photo the other day DH said its grandad...."noooooo" said ds3 "yes it is grandad you just never see him!!!"

[maybebabythree]

Thanks Charlie. I think ds2 could be in the autistic spectrum but it's the not knowing for sure and not knowing how to help. Fil has nothing to offer I have to think about it like that

[pinga]

Homebirths are a bit of a PITA to organise here I think. I've read that they're quite open to them in the UK. My MIL had a homebirth with DS4 and as far as I know all the kids were there - DH was only about 3 and MIL says he was right up close and fascinated in the whole thing!!

At the moment I'm looking forward to the 2 nights in hospital - here you get 2 nights for a vaginal birth and 4 nights for a caesar. I'm hoping to get some sleep - I'm ALWAYS the one who gets up in the night to sort out the boys :) You only share with one other lady and baby so its not too bad.

No sign of baby still - 39 weeks today! Its mad to think I'm only a week off my due date!!! But DS2 is still really poorly - really want him better. Taking him to doctors today as he didn't sleep again last night and want to rule out anything serious with baby due. He cried every hour and needed settling - so I was up every hour all night. So I am TIRED! Sods law I will go into labour today when I can't cope I'm so tired.

maybe - sorry to hear you have a crap FIL. Mine is crap too but he is the opposite - over-interested and constantly undermines me with the boys! Family hey! I'm learning lots about what not to do as an in-law! :)

Charlie - You'll probably have your bubba before me! :)
Maybepink is due same time as me so we'll have to watch out for her too....

[charlieispy]

Its a race to the line LOL

HUGS for your DS hope the doctor can help its horrid when they are poorly for so long x maybe he has an infection?? DS1 would never tell me if anything hurt and would be ill for ages then it would turn out he had a throat infection or an ear infection!!

Been awake since 5am only got to sleep about 1am today is going to be looooooooong got loads on too! Meeting with therapist (she is sweet but crap all she wants me to do is tell everyone its a boy - which i wont do god even typing it reminds me and i think OUCH) then a party at lunchtime and I also need to go get nappies!! And then we are going round to see my SIL for the boys dinner - think she will tell me to leave them there but ds3 is a handful! Also she has just been left by her husband so she probably doesnt need my 3 being monkeys........
Hoping the washing machine people ring today to arrange delivery Come ON then baby can come ;)

[maybebabythree]

Pinga hope all is better soon. Poor you being up all night when your so close to giving birth. Is dh there to help? The hospital over there sounds great! Remind me why you want to come back - lol! Mind you I'm watching a series on great olmand street and the nhs can be amazing - some times. My mil is a pita but better that than fil and his total lack of interest. Dh also didn't answer his phone last night as he never does when drinking. I don't even know the name of his hotel. I'm mad at him too now but course can't see he's done wrong. Lack of sleep is not helping.

Charlie sorry the counciling isn't helping. I really hope it all clicks into place after the birth. Hugs xxx

[maybebabythree]

Hmm ideas on how we arrange our meet up off the public forum? Sorry reading some posts on here reminds me the net isn't safe and were taking our kids

[charlieispy]

oh hun x hope he apologises and makes it up to you when he gets home x men just dont get it do they?! Imagine if we did that!!!!

Kind of glad as today my therapist said i think we can really go any further so is stopping our appointments which suits me - i will be referred to a PND thing after he (eeeek i hate even typing that) arrives. Am so bloody tired havnt sat down but fx i will be sooooo tired i will sleep through being uncomfy!!!

[charlieispy]

CANT go any further <sigh>

[charlieispy]

we could start a private group on FB for the meet x
then only people invited can see the posts and details

[maybebabythree]

Good idea Charlie! Any fb pros know how to create it? Sorry I'm so cr@p with fb. But I can find out if needs be

[maybebabythree]

Ok will try to do it now - bear with me....

[maybebabythree]

Done. Added deals, bm, indigo and a few others it's a secret group. Pm me to join. Hope it's really private lol!

[maybebabythree]

Right added some people and I'm going to stop as I presumed we all know each other via fb!!! Aggh maybe we don't!!! Poop!! Sorry if I have cocked up! Stepping away from the pc now

[Petal]

LOL maybe, ive just pm'd some people on fb, should have read here first as you've already done it haha, sorry hun :-)
x

[Petal]

Hope you get a better night sleep pinga! Your hospitals sound better than ours!! lol. I would have had a home birth but i cant cope with the pain! lol.

Charlie, bet you're glad its the last councilling session today then, fancy her keep telling you to tell everyone its a boy! she should know that people deall with things in their own way and she should respect that!

Loving all the baby pics on fb :-) keep adding them!!

[indigoviolet]

gosh Maybe- what a pain for you dh and fil being so unhelpful. I agree with someone else who said about arranging a private meeting with the teacher, they are both lovely and will be so supportive and helpful. I'm sure they will be able to reassure you and will have lots of ideas and strategies for how to deal with your ds. Well done for sorting the fb group!

Charlie- you sound super busy, i don't know how you have the energy, these days I'm SO tired and need a nap almost every day. Can't believe you have been surviving without a washer for so long, v annoying. Was the therapist any help at all, any useful tips or ideas you could pass on to us?! Are the antiD's working for you? Your homebirth sounds totally amazing, I just don't think I'd have the courage...did you have gas and air at home? I'm so impressed and in awe of you ladies who do it!

Pinga- you poor thing, you must be exhausted too. I really hope your ds gets better and you are able to have a couple off good night's sleep before the baby arrives. How are you feeling about the birth and announcement? (or have you told people this one is a boy? I can't remember sorry). I've told everyone I can that this is a boy as I want to get it all out the way before the birth.

Petal- :HH:

Has anyone heard from LMW? it's been ages, hope she is OK.

AFM, we have MIL staying for a few days, she is generally quite helpful and we are actually going away for a night on Friday (first time in 2 years) so I'm really looking forward to that. Unfortunately I work on a Friday and usually come back from work totally exhausted with a splitting headache. Might have to let the kids in the class have an easy day and take it a bit easy myself so I'm not totally wiped out!

Good night all, will catch up with you all tomorrow, lots of love :HH:

[charlieispy]

The therapist used CBT which for me doesnt really work i can see why it would but personally it doesnt help x the anti d hae definitely taken the edge off in the sense I am not screaming at DH or shouting at the kids so much still struggle alot with GD but can handle home life a bit better and am not so angry at them for being all boys DH included. Definitely too busy lol and the next few weeks are crazy with school and preschool stuff at least it will fly by until i pop! As for gas and air I dont use anything - g & a makes me feel sick took 2 puffs with ds1 and gave it back bar the mouth piece - i go a bit animal esque and like to bite on the mouth piece. I tend to just walk in labour up and down and when CTX comes lean on a windowsill and march through it!!! DS3 was probably the most painful as so quick and mentally i thought i had ages till he would come as waiting for my waters to pop and they never did.....oh my the ring of fire with him was well i said F alot!!! DH said i literally shook him out!!

YAY for FB group will investigate now x then off to bed x xmuch love to all x

[maybebabythree]

Cool - pm moi if your interested in the group meet up. Or just say on here and we will add you x

Pinga - you can be there on spirit! And aroura ...

Charlie - no gas and air??? I didn't this time but I love that stuff! As me anything while on g & a and I would tell you all my secrets. I got to quite far dilated this time with just pethdine but only as I knew the epidural was coming. The pain head crowns is the worse pain ever. I could teach a sailer new swear words then! The f word only left my lips once with dave while they broke my waters. After that it was just the mantra 'where's my epidural? Where's my epidural?'

Right off to bed after my four hour cluster feed

[Kell]

Morning :)

Well that's me handed in my 5000 word project on opinions towards male midwives! :) thanks for anyone who did that for me, made for interesting results !
So college is almost finished, but for the next couple of days I'm a going to chill!!

How's the pregnant ladies doing? I'm shattered as well, I haven't slept properly in 4days, just can not get comfortable at all :( and so restless, lily has changed positions and seems to be heading down, I now have the pleasure of hiccups in my foof :| I was having very very mild period pains early hours of this morning as well, so I think this is doing to be a loooooooong 5 weeks.
Have a midwife appointment soon, and then I'm off to see the queen officially open our new maternity unit with my one day to be mil.

I'm not on Facebook but if you guys arrange between yourselves I'll see if I can slot in. It's very unlikely I'll be there as I'm due 22nd of July so I'm hopping she will either be with me and still very young or I'll be super overdue lol

[littlemisswilko]

hiya girls ano it been ages!!!!!! inglewood contacted me on fb and i remembered how friendly you girly's are

has anyone had there babies that i havent known about. dont think i have everyone on FB!!! ive got 8weeks left and its so exciting!!!! i have my section booked for the 13th aug!! but hoping he will come early!!!!!!

wanted to step away from here for a bit to enjoy my pregnancy and not keep thinking about what if! but im so over the moon about expecting another little man i just carnt wait for him to be here.

any new bfps? lavenderlime?

[Inglewood]

Hi LMW! Lovely to hear from you (again!). Glad you are keeping well and are all set for bambino. 13th Aug not long. :)

Can anyone explain the tax credit 'disregard' amount. Am I right in saying..... if my income has gone up by a certain amount since my last award notice last year then as long as it's not more than (think it's either £2,500 or £10,000, don't understand) then your tax credit amt won't change. Or is it if you earned more the current year they won't take it off ur new amount? We have earned £1200 more than 2010/11 andI'm worried they will want this years payments back if I'm no longer entilted :( Was hoping to save my tax credit £ and take another month or 2 off work, going back in jan. so stressed! like I need that! Should I call them?

[Inglewood]

For anyone who had similar prob, Just phoned tax credits.... you take off £100 for every week u take mat leave from your final salary. sorted.... I think!

[deaks66]

Hi ladies, feel like im getting behind on posts and need to catch up properly at some point! I find if the weathers nice i don't use my computer half as much though i think about you guys loads! When its rainy, im on here all the time! Right im going to head over to the fb page and see whats going on!

LMW, so so lovely to hear from you! You sound so super excited, not long now!

[maybebabythree]

Lmw - good to hear from you! Glad your excited! Not long now!

Kell - shame you can't clone yourself as a student midwife you just the person needed when pg ladies and new borns meet up. so glad my study days are over. But if I won the lottery I would love to do a phd in genetics or immunology. Shame I think my brain is shrinking with each baby!

[auroara78]

has anyone heard from lavender-lime lately? I do love her blog and her business is so cute!

Little miss, lovely to see u again...good you are so excited for the baby!

Charlie, the washer thing would drive me bonkers....and I am sure once you meet the baby, things will hopefully click into place....pg is so hard because of the all hormones too! I've been driving myself crazy the last few days, just got real sad about some real life money issues, and it's so easy to get emotionally crazy during pg, I just have to remind msyelf that things are not so bad as they seem....also I tried CBT for my panic atacks and found it very unhelpful...things like "just get on the interstate" (when I'm afriad of them) just don't cut it for me. I wanted more tactics or more ways to stay "calm" and all he said is the only cure for panic attacks is to face the fear directly, well I get that on a logical level, but in my panic attack state, I'm not sure that's really going to matter! I hear you about therapy...it can be good, but sometimes the therapists are NOT "hearing" us, and what we're actaully saying....

[Kell]

Lol maybe mines shrinking for sure! I wonder if a year out of study will make it worse lol! Funny u say that about biology etc as I have been looking at molecular biology and genetics as an option, then I could go into embryology and infertility etc

Deaks weathers due to get bad again :( its doing my head in lol,

Lmw I'm so so pleased you are excited to meet your little man!!! Have u got any names for him yet?

I went to my maternity unit today for the official opening, the queen opened it :)

[threelittlemenandcounting]

Hello Ladies I have missed you all but have been super busy, it was DD 2nd birthday on the 2nd of June, we have been away incornwall for a week and I am feeling pretty naff as I have a raging UTI.

I would love to be involved in the meet up, I know I dont get on here much anymore but I would like to stay a part of the thread if thats ok with you girls, feel a bit out of it:(

I am on facebook and have some of you as friends but would love to have those who are on facebook and not my friend add me please message me and I'll add.

Sorry girls for not being around more and cheering you all on and chatting more I feel a little sad like I dont belong the same as I dont get on here as much as I used to, I need to make more of an effort and get my sorry ass back on here more!!

A massive congrats to babymad and zanacal on the birth of your babies

xxxx

[Inglewood]

I almost went for a job as a nurse in fertliity a few years back, was a research post, but ended up pg with ds2! My best friend is a fertility/reproductive health nurse and has a fab fab job in london now. It sounds great....always said once ds2 at school I'd do something like that since I started at uni doing midwifery after school and ended up as a general nurse realising their was no jobs late 1990's for midwives in scotland. The girls that did do it now live in england, one was on OBEM!!!! That was odd. Not up for it now, a wee district nursing job would be great or practice nurse in the future.Nursing ain't what it used to be and would LOVE to be a travel agent, shame I wouldn't get paid what I do for doing 2 nights per wk.

anyone seen BB, what load of crap! I used to love it!!

[maybebabythree]

Oh no Tlm! Don't say that! You are the founder smog graduate!! Your just enjoying your kids - nothing wrong with that!!! I would love to meet you!

I will contact you tomorrow x

I hope were not coming across in a bad way? Some people (me) are on here a bit when I should be doing house work and some people (you) are working and using spate moments to do housework!

[maybebabythree]

Inglewood my dream job is Richard attibrough's research assistant. Sigh - so different from my real life job. I wanted to be a doctor once (still do) but don't like gore. I would love the research side of things like genetics and auto-immune conditions but in a lab without the gore. I have worked in medical research and labs - I loved it but alas no money in it. Toss up between great job and no money or not so great job but living in comfort. My ethics have slipped since I left uni and it does make me sad. But as madonna says 'we are living in a material world' can't live off my ego alone.

[Inglewood]

It's 0356am...girls fed...back to bed (hopefully) :)

[threelittlemenandcounting]

Hope The girls slept well for you, I was thinking about the colic situation thing your suffering with last night I really hope it improves soon !! Have the docs given you anything for reflux as well as colic, when the girls are distressed with the discomfort do they become more rigid almost stretch out like they are trying to arch their backs or is it knees in to the tummy? I had an awful first few weeks with ds 3 who I initially thought had colic but it was reflux !

I'm sure you have already thought of all this and I'm a bit late to the story here but just thought I'd ask ?!

What about a completely different brand of milk altogether ?

Hope it gets better soon for you and themxxx

[Inglewood]

Hope The girls slept well for you, I was thinking about the colic situation thing your suffering with last night I really hope it improves soon !! Have the docs given you anything for reflux as well as colic, when the girls are distressed with the discomfort do they become more rigid almost stretch out like they are trying to arch their backs or is it knees in to the tummy? I had an awful first few weeks with ds 3 who I initially thought had colic but it was reflux !

I'm sure you have already thought of all this and I'm a bit late to the story here but just thought I'd ask ?!

What about a completely different brand of milk altogether ?

Hope it gets better soon for you and themxxx

Hi, that's exactly it!! they stretch out when sore and go rigid, like trying to arch their backs! They vomit quite alot too. Ds2 had reflux and had gaviscon sachets, but with the comfort milk I can't use it as it makes it too thick. They are still unsettled alot of the time, but better since starting comfort milk. The HV told me to try them back on regular aptamil at 4mths, but wondering should either keep them on it? or try cow and gate and try the gaviscon powders (hear alot of good comments from mums about C&G). My friend who is a MW said aptamil traditionally was used for under weight and premmie's as it makes them put on alot of weight. That is quite true my boys were bruisers and my nephew, on aptamil. She also said with them being a bit early (4wks) their digestive system is immature, being a mth behind and that's why they are so unsettled at feeding. Gave up with colief drops as none of the colic meds helped (so dh convinced not colic, told him that goes for nothing) so not sure what to do, the boys were so easy to feed, even with ds2's reflux!

Thanks for thinking of us xx

[deaks66]

Inglewood, if they are arching their backs i really think you should try and push for the ranitidene. It is so unfair for them (and you) to be in pain :( Trouble is docs are so hesitant for no justified reason. When ds2 was 3 months i literally marched down to the docs and shouted my baby needs ranitidene. They were a bit shocked and like ok mrs ?? we'll try it. I never looked back. If you switch to normal aptamil and gaviscon i have a feeling the problem will go away for a couple of days and then come back again. The aptamil brand though is definitely the best for colic/reflux as it is much less rich than others and is more easily digested. Oh i really hope things improve soon. X

[deaks66]

Just to add, if it is knees to tummy then that is an immature digestive problem down below. Mine were both on domperidone for that (as well as the ranitidene for the asophagus problem). Oh it was hell before i got them properly diagnosed and treated. Why do they make babies suffer when no other age group has to?!

[threelittlemenandcounting]

Inglewood it def sounds like reflux to me rather than colic, recently I aptamil is not as good as it used to ve and I've known quite a few unsettled babies on it, I'd try the gp and get real meds but def try a completely diff brand of milk altogether hope you have a good day xx

[Babymad]

Hi everyone,

Charlie ~ Sorry the counselling hasn't been very helpful, but great to hear the antidepressants are helping - feeling in control of your emotions is half the battle I think! Your home birth sounds lovely, I am so pleased I got to experience it!

Inglewood ~ sounds like you are getting some good advice about the girls feeding, are they feeding any better? Love the pic on FB, they are really growing up!

LM ~ Hi, lovely to hear from you!

TLM ~ Hope your DD had a lovely bday :)

Indigo ~ I would defo recommend a home birth :)

I have always wanted a HB even with DS1, but DH was more on the cautious side and said lets have him at hosp and if all goes well we'll have our 2nd at home. DS1 was a week late and I had a wonderful birth and would have been prefect for me to have him at home so wish I had stuck to my guns!
I was two weeks late with DS2 and DS3 so had to be induced - was very upset with both as I desp wanted to have them at home and go into natural labour. So come DS4 I didn't get my hopes up at all and just resigned myself to the fact that I would probably be induced again. So I am STILL in shock that he arrived at home and I eventually got my long awaited home birth :)
I had planned to get organised on Sunday for my induction so no bags packed etc. I had a second sweep on the Friday but didn't think it would do anything! I woke at 5.30am on Sunday morning with twinges but by 7am I thought they were getting more regular, by 8am I was in the bath and they were between 5 and 10 mims apart. I got the boys breakfast and by 9am they were very regular and strong so I woke DH who had slept downstairs as he had been snoring! I said get up as we need to clean up I'm in labour!! I was hoovering and having full on contractions by the point - what a sight..lol!! I wanted the house tidy for when the MW's turned up, but I then realised I had forgot to ring the MW with all the tidying up! I told the boys the baby would be here soon and they had to be really good boys whilst I got baby out :)
I called the MW and they arrived at 10.30 am and my contractions were every 3 mins by this point.
Baby was born at 11.57am and it was a wonderful experience. The boys were playing outside (luckily the weather was nice) whilst I was labouring in the playroom. When I reached the third stage they went into the front room to watch a DVD, as soon a baby arrived they all came in and said hello before DH cut the cord. I was so proud of them for being so well behaved and loved the fact that they got to see baby when he had arrived, I'm hoping that will a memory that stays with them.
Overall it was a perfect experience and exactly as I would of wanted it.
I did struggle to deliver the placenta and it was very painful and it took nearly an hour so that held things up abit - me holding baby etc, I was in agony so couldn't hold him straight the way! But DH took baby and put him on his chest skin to skin and cooked the boys pizza for lunch :) The MW's were laughing as DH was serving pizza and holding a newborn baby! :)
By 2pm I had had a bath and was cuddled up with baby and the boys, completely in shock that he had arrived and he had arrived at home :) I feel very lucky to have experienced such a special birth as its my last and even luckier that my boys big and small were part of it all :)
I couldn't stop smiling on Monday as I was holding my baby and WASN'T at hosp being induced!!!!

So I'm thumbs up for home births :)

Baby is doing well, he's a hungry boy so feeling every 2-3 hrs but I'm sure he will begin to settle down in the next few days. Not getting loads of sleep so completely shattered but enjoying the newborn bit :) The boys love him so much.
We had lunch at John Lewis yesterday ( a tradition of ours, family outing to JL with new arrival :)) so feeling very tired today as we were out all day. Been a busy week and DH back at work on Monday so having a quite day at home tomorrow. DS1 not too well so skipping swimming lessons etc and chilling at home.
Just ordered my food packs online ready for the diet to start on Monday!! I can't wait to lose the weight, I still look pg at the mo!!
I did the school run today and realised how much I hadn't missed it or the people..lol! I love dropping the boys off but I can't be doing with all the other rubbish!

Ok better stop waffling and try to get some sleep! Night all xxx

[Babymad]

P.s is the FB group defo private as it appears on my newsfeed???

[deaks66]

Oh babymad, what a wonderful experience for you and well deserved after all you have been through!! You sound very content and i feel quite tearful (with happiness obviously) about that. You made me laugh when you said you forgot to call the mw! so glad they got to you on time and the image on my mind of dh cooking pizza and holding your tiny little man is so cute! Well done again to you and im glad you never have to suffer another pregnancy as i know you have a horrid time. Bubs will give you a great reason not to have to hang around and chat at the school gates for quite a while! X

[deaks66]

P.s is the FB group defo privateas it appears on my newsfeed???

yikes!

[deaks66]

well until we find out for sure, you can hide the group in your news feed. Click on the arrow to the right of the latest post and click hide all from 5aside.

[Babymad]

Thanks Deaks - I have to say so far so good :) I'm sure they say day 5 is when the hormones kick in so I'm expecting to have a few tearful days but at the mo I am just so pleased to be me again even if just in mind as defo not body yet :)
I do not miss being pg in anyway and feel pleased to say my family is complete - I can now concentrate on being 'me' again and enjoying my family. I know the road ahead will be a very rocky one and there is lots I have to face/ deal with which will take a long time if not forever but I am going to try my best to be positive and when I'm not having a good day I know I have you guys ....which really helps me knowing that :)
Next week will be hard going when I'm back in the real world and I'm already anxious about it all but at the moment I'm enjoying lots of newborn cuddles and I love my little man to bits- which believe me I am VERY happy to be able to say! :) xx

How are you??

[maybebabythree]

Sounds like a lovely birth babymad. Your really brave and very lucky. With my pregnancy history it's something I could never do.

I created the group as a secret one? I just don't get fb no one should see it anywhere? Dh can't see it in my fb? Can you check that your dhs can't see it? I hope I haven't Cocked up! But if we just discus the meet up its all ok ATM. Ugh I hate fb some times!

Who's a fb wizz? I presume we can't see it in each others feeds?

[Inglewood]

Babymad, what a wonderful experience, so very different from my section, I'm envious! Gosh diet on monday??? You look so well. Your very keen, your body will need lots of nutrients to heal for a while, be good to yourself :) Can I ask what diet stuff you ordered, I'm now trying to loose weight after recovering from my section. Desp need to shift the weight now. A few friends of mine now have had boys, 3 (inc u) this past 2wks and all 9lbs+ great weights, you must look after them well when pg.

I don't see the news feed on fb..........

[Inglewood]

Deaks and 3littlemen, think I'll see gp on monday, see what they say.... thanks again x

[deaks66]

I love my little man to bits- which believe me I am VERY happy to be able to say! :) xx

How are you??

That is just fantastic, im so happy as i know you were worried how you would feel about him. Oh god, im so jealous! Im fine this end, nothing very exciting to report really. x

[deaks66]

yeah i think thats it, we can see it in our own feeds, but noone else can :)

[maybebabythree]

I think it's safe. See my post there. We need to get on at a set time and do the group chat. Like a big msn thingie! I can't type fast though. Defo check with husbands that they can't see feeds or likes just to make 100% sure xxx

[maybebabythree]

Inglewood there is a massive post on baby centre march birth group about aptamil. People saying it's giving baby's jip. I have ever used aptamil until past six months so can't advise on another brand. Hipp organic is supposed to be ok but not sure it has the fish oils? Even with bf my boys get bad wind. Oh and this week lots of pucking too. Or is that puking? God I'm so tierd :-(

[charlieispy]

Babymad - so so happy you got your homebirth sounds fantastic x love the fact all your boys were there - planning on shipping ds2 and 3 to my mums but ds1 wants to be here. I am so pleased you finally got your homebirth :D enjoy him gorgeous little man x x

[charlieispy]

As for your post about your family being complete and moving on - that is where I want to be too x I will never get over not having a girl but I want to move on and be selfish sometimes and do things for me.....at least swimming will be easy for us daddy will have to be incharge of everyone once they get that bit older HAHA

[Sunset]

Babymad ~ your birth experience sounds amazing!! :) so happy to hear you are enjoying your new little man :)

Has Pinga had her baby yet? has anyone got her on fb??

[Babymad]

Babymad, what a wonderful experience, so very different from my section, I'm envious! Gosh diet on monday??? You look so well. Your very keen, your body will need lots of nutrients to heal for a while, be good to yourself :) Can I ask what diet stuff you ordered, I'm now trying to loose weight after recovering from my section. Desp need to shift the weight now. A few friends of mine now have had boys, 3 (inc u) this past 2wks and all 9lbs+ great weights, you must look after them well when pg.

I don't see the news feed on fb..........

With DS1 and DS2 I didn't really put any extra weight on but I piled it on with DS3 and was mortified! I enrolled on Lighterlife to shift the weight as I'm not a patient person and need results quickly! I did have to what until DS3 was 3 months old though to start the diet which felt like an eternity but I did WW for a few weeks in the interim.
All together I lost 4 stone and got back to my pre-kids weight - I was soooo pleased and felt better about myself than I had for years.
But I have eaten what I liked in this pg so once again I have piled the weight on!! I haven't weighed myself yet but I'm sure I will be looking at least 2 stone! I am waiting for my milk to dry up and then I will weigh myself.
There is a website called Avidlite and they sell loads of weight loss products and the good thing is you don't have to commit to a programme (you do with Lighterlife). So i have chosen the milkshakes and bars as meal replacements which is what i did with Lighterlife - basically its a very low cal diet and your body goes into Ketosis after about a week and then you burn fat very quickly. it took me approx 14 weeks to lose over 3 stone on Lighterlife so hoping i will be back to my normal weight quite quickly. I will eat a small meal in the evening - protein based so eggs for me but i can only use natural products, so an omelette with two eggs is normally what I go for with spinach and peppers.

I am very miserable and grumpy when I am over weight so i need quick results again - i really do need to be 'me' again asap - emotionally and physically - does that make sense?!? I know it will help me with my GD.

BUT saying that I am eating well at the mo, and will make the most of it this week-end - I ate all the boys celebrations last night!!! :)

i can send you the link if you are interested, just let me know.

How are the girls today? xx

[Babymad]

That is just fantastic, im so happy as i know you were worried how you would feel about him. Oh god, im so jealous! Im fine this end, nothing very exciting to report really. x

I am so relieved i feel ok about 'him' - I was very scared right up until he literally arrived on how I would feel about him - and I have never been like that before so it really scared me :(
I feel we are bonding well and I'm trying to enjoy these precious newborn moments as they are defo my last!

Have you got a bump yet???

[Babymad]

As for your post about your family being complete and moving on - that is where I want to be too x I will never get over not having a girl but I want to move on and be selfish sometimes and do things for me.....at least swimming will be easy for us daddy will have to be incharge of everyone once they get that bit older HAHA

I suppose because I know 1000% that we will not be having any more children the reality of never having a daughter is slowly (very slowly) hitting home. I want to be happy and content and I know some days I will be and I know some days I won't be and I will feel like my world has ended some days but I am determined to make the most of the good days and enjoy my boys and try my hardest to be strong through the bad days......

I said to my DH that I have to find something in life for me now.....he has a lifetime of 4 boys and boy stuff and I need to find something that makes me happy - not that my boys don't make me happy but you know what I mean! I will be 40 when DS4 starts school so I can't be wasting my life thinking about what if as I don't have the time to do that!!

I hope we find some kind of peace in the future......xxx

[deaks66]

Babymad, i bet you are so relieved to be bonding so well.... happy days. I have heard quite a few ladies say that once their children are over the 'little' stage, that gd bothers them so much less anyway and that they don't really think about it. I think there is so much pressure on us while we are in the fertile stages of our life to produce one of each, that once we are done baby making, the pressure goes away and that really helps the gd to ease off. Sounds like you have a great frame of mind.

Oh and yes i have a very small bump. I never get large during pregnancy which i am lucky with i guess. i will try and take a picture of my non existent bumpage soon!

Dying to see a pic of pingas baby. is it only on fb? CONGRATS PINGA!!!!!

[Kell]

Babymad lighter life is hard core! I respect anyone that can do that diet! My dad and sister both did it a few years back, dad lost 10stone on it. It's a tough old diet! I hated the ketosis makes some people's breath really stink lmao!
So glad to hear you are bonding well with your little man :) and what a lovely birth you had!

Oh has Pinga had baby?? Congratulations if you have :) xx

[Inglewood]

Hi, yeah Babymad please do send the link. Is it expensive? I barely eat a proper meal these days unless Dh is cooking. I cook for everyone else and by the time they have all eaten the girls are due fed, so I've lived on fruit and fibre, crisps and biscuits for wks. With the twins I only gained 20lbs, not bad for me, usually at least 30lbs with the boys. Think it was because they took alot from me to thrive. But since they have been born, my mum comes every other day with a wee cake or biscuit for a cuppa, all the visitors brought cakes, me choc's etc... and I've gained another 10lbs, through that and eating like I'm still pg with twins! so disgusted with myself and feel awful :( Have a wedding reception beg sept, hope to be more myself by then. I lost almost 2 and a half stone march-aug last yr on WW then the girl diet and felt good. I'm crap to start with on diets till the discipline kicks in. x

[Babymad]

Many congrats Pinga, hope you are both doing well xx

I have PM'd you the links Inglewood - let me know how you get on. I have a wedding in 6 weeks so got to get sorted for then, can't go as a biffa and have everyone staring!! Try and prepare yourself some healthy snacks, I cut melon and strawberries up and have them in the fridge so i can snack on them when I feel I need sugar! I have eaten loads this week- end and the thought of starting my diet tomorrow mortifies me but its got to be done!

Hope everyone has had a good week-end. Cant believe my little man is a week old already! xx

[threelittlemenandcounting]

Babymad fab birth story really pleased for you that you got your home birth xx

[indigoviolet]

Babymad- I loved your birth story, so so glad for you that you are bonding well and beginning to be able to move on and be content with your (perfect) family. I'm so happy you are enjoying him right from the beginning, it is such a special time. I loved reading your post and it is amazing how we do cope and can come to terms with things (thank goodness). You sound so at peace and grounded, I'm just so happy for you! :HH:

Pinga- huge congrats to you! wonderful news, can't wait to see the pics! Hope you are enjoying your new little man to the full!

I had that scare too about fb and our group not being private but I'm pretty sure it is, phew! Thanks for setting it up maybebaby, it's fun to have all the faces to names.

Finally went car shopping today for a bigger car that will take all the boys. So time consuming and a bit boring, I don't really care! I am quite keen on the sliding door ones though, has anyone got one of those and is it any good?

TLM- you are welcome whenever you have time and when you are away for a bit, you certainly aren't forgotten. As Maybe said, you are one of the founding members! :HH:

Goodnight and love to you all xxxx

[maybebabythree]

Pinga - hows you? How was the birth?? We need details! (I'm sure your hands are full ATM)

Babymad I will mentally start diet with you tomorrow. I weigh far too much. I crave sugar all the time and I think
Im going to get diabetes if I carry on. Plus my bp needs to come down :-( I have the same John Lewis star blanket as your lo. Good taste! I love their baby things. Love their designer baby clothes too (buy not the prices!) x

[charlieispy]

indigo - highly recommend sliding doors for the fact it is so much easier when in tight car parks! No worries the boys will slam the door into the next car. Our car is huge so takes up most of the space so slide doors are needed!!

Beck has the star blanket from johnlewis its gorgeous and so soft!!

[maybebabythree]

Diet didn't go well today. Met my sister for the day and went to harvester. She had halomi and I had spit roast with jacket butter and sour cream. I have no will power :-(

My period isn't due (I'm bf feeding but it returned in may - boo!) but I am getting terrible cramps. Has anyone else had this so long after giving birth?

I got some bandana bibs today from buba bids. 11 for £19.95 they are lovely. If anyone with baby boys wants something funky I think they are great

[Petal]

Babymad, aww your homebirth sounded amazing!! i would love a hb but i just cant do pain, im terrible lol. Im soo glad you and your adorable little boy have bonded soo well, you sound really happy and you truly have a beatiful family :-))

Ive started weight watchers, lost 12 pounds so far, i cant believe im actually doing it as my will power is crap lol.

Im really looking forward to our meet up, not long now!! its funny how we have never met but i just feel such a bond with you all, cant wait :-) x

[pinga]

Hello!!! Finally back online after having my little man!!! As I mentioned before DS1 and DS2 have been very sick so I went to stay with their great-grandmother for a couple of nights after my 2 nights at hospital (no internet). DH has been watching the boys. Not been ideal but I actually really enjoyed the 1-on-1 time with bubba.

What a crazy birth. I still can't believe he is here.
Duke Arthur was born on Friday 15th at 3.39pm :)

DH had taken the day off work as DS1 had croup the night before and woke up in a massive panic as he couldn't breathe so he'd been to the Childrens Hospital for some steriods that night.
On Friday DHs sister came over to watch the boys for an hour while DH took me to my OB appointment at 12. my BP was up so was sent to fetal monitoring. After a while they put me on the monitors. DH went back home (fetal monitoring is 4 hour appt). While lying there I felt 2 massive kicks down there... which was weird. about 10 mins later when I stood up I said 'uh-oh' as a trickle ran down my leg. Guess the kicks were my waters breaking. They gave me a pad... which lasted about 10 seconds when my waters were gushing down... my shoes were wet etc.

Rang DH - he'd just got home - and told him to come back. The doc then said I would be sent home and booked in for an induction if nothing happened by the next morning. I thought hmmm - I could be wrong but I think its coming today and soon. Just after 3pm DH got back. The doc came back in and told me to come back at 6.30am. Then I got the first tightening that had a tiny bit of uncomfortableness to it. I told the doc. I was told to hang around for a bit and walk around the floor and see if it got things going. I took about 10 steps out the room and got the first ouchy one... then another. Then another and then I said I need to be in a room - I feel pressure.

They grabbed a wheelchair and I was rushed to the lifts and the birthing suite (an exciting wheelchair dash). Had a couple of contractions on the way. Got to the room threw myself on the floor by the bed and did my first push... trousers still on :D DH got me undressed while pushing... Baby got distressed so had to get on the bed. It was go go go.

You know how midwives like to say encouraging things... well at one point one said - 'your baby's head is out' and I said (a little sarcastically) 'yes I can TELL'! Honestly they shouldn't talk to me!

I'd say I had 6 contractions before starting to push. He came out in 30 mins (20mins after getting into the birth suite). Duke was a bit stunned and took a while to start responding - they had a paed there... but all good!

It took a while to absorb what happened - It was so quick I don't think I felt very in control. DH was AMAZING - he was really involved in this birth which was nice. I really needed him there. Duke is a gorgeous little man. He is feeding well but every 2 hours at the mo. He looks so like DS2 at the mo. Can't believe how lucky I was to be at the hospital when it all happened. We were lucky DHs sister was there to watch the boys... and lucky DH wasn't at work.

Anyway - that was my strange little birth story! :D Am very much in love with him. Am not thinking ahead to the future... am just soaking up the newborn bit.

Babymad - congratulations - what a fab birth you had!!!!

[deaks66]

Pinga, massive congratulations! What an amazing story and what I wouldn't give to only have 6 contractions before pushing!! So glad dh was there and you were in hospital as it could have been scary otherwise. I'd love to see a pic! Sooooo happy you are in love with your little man....I WANT mINE NOW!!!!!

Hi everyone else! X

[indigoviolet]

Pinga- so happy for you, big congrats. So glad you are enjoying your new little man :HH: I'd love a birth like that! I'm glad it all worked out with the kids being looked after and already being at the hosp. Well done!!

[Kell]

Wow Pinga that's how to do labour! Lol
Huge congratulations on Dukes arrival :) so glad you are all ok and that dh was lucky enought to make it back in time!!

[Sunset]

Pinga what an amazing birth!! congratulations on your little man!! :) I love his name! I will have to add you on fb, i'll give you a pm!

Babymad ~ I love your pics! your little boy really is so so cute!

i love our group on fb, makes it so much easier to keep up! :)

[Kell]

Oh no I'm not gonna loose u all to fb am I?
It's happened to me before lol

[deaks66]

kell, i'll always be here!

[maybebabythree]

I'm sticking around too! Told a fellow mum of three at the school gates dh hadn't heard about his snip yet and she told me not to remind him as then I can even my numbers up! Tempting yet terrifying at the same time!

Got ds2 school uniform today - he's growing up! Thank goodness I have my lovely baby x

[deaks66]

id love it if we were HT cycle buddies maybe, could you be persuaded?!

[threelittlemenandcounting]

Pinga what a great birth story ! Congratulations on your little man xx

[maybebabythree]

Deaks - I would love too but at 38 not sure it would work for me. Dh has said he is up for it! I did think about getting my pre testing done to see how it looked. My fsh was high at 12 before I have save. If my folical reserve was also low then it's a no go for me. I wish I was younger!

[deaks66]

Deaks - I would love too but at 38 not sure it would work for me. Dh has said he is up for it! I did think about getting my pre testing done to see how it looked. My fsh was high at 12 before I have save. If my folical reserve was also low then it's a no go for me. I wish I was younger!

Could you post on HT as see if others of around the same age have been successful? I know loads of people who have had kids around 40 though i know you struggled to ttc last time, but was that mainly due to swaying? I definitely think you should get pretesting done.... we could do it together :)

[zanacal]

Congratulations Pinga! I can't believe how quickly baby Duke arrived, it must have been quite a shock!

[Serendipity]

Hi, I'm not sure if I'm in the right place, so please direct me elsewhere if I'm not! I'm new to this forum, am having a hard time getting over my desire for a girl, but am unsure if I want to chance having a third child after having bad GD with ds2. Do you ladies have any tips for how to go ahead and make the decision? I'm thinking if we do go ahead, we will start trying after Christmas this year.

[Inglewood]

I'll always be here too, I owe ALOT to this site and our original PL gang! x

Girls weighed yest- DD1 9lbs 14oz and DD2 10lbs 7oz at 11wks. Saw the gp who was a bit hopeless, he tole me they had relux and I was to try SMA staydown before drug intervention. So called my HV who came out yest. She said to try it and meantime she would speak to gp and if by end wk no changes to call and he would give me a script for gaviscon to take with reg aptamil. To be honest I won't be trying the normal aptamil again, FX the SMA works, which you add the powder to chilled water then heat it slightly. The milk then thickens in the tummy and shouldn't come up as much. So far they haven't vomited half as much, but are still unsettled (glad HV saw them like that yest). Not very hopeful, but will give it a chance, bonus is u have to prepare water in bottles in advance to add powder to chilled water. So time saving when screaming for a feed :) Have heard from 3 mums that Hipp organic is a good one for babies with immature tummies that can't take aptamil, or babies coming off BF. Nightmare! boys were so easy, even ds2 with his shocking reflux never cried with it!

[zanacal]

Inglewood - I used to frequent Babywhisperer.com - Index (http://www.babywhispererforums.com) a lot and some of the ladies there have loads of reflux advice and experience. There is a separate board dedicated to it but I think you need to sign up to see it.

Does anybody want a 2.5 year old from 3pm to 4pm every weekday?! Oh my God, the school run has become one long, noisy, embarrassing tantrum! There goes the woman with more children than she can handle!!

[indigoviolet]

I'll always be here, too much of a habit for me to give up now!

[deaks66]

Hi, I'm not sure if I'm in the right place, so please direct me elsewhere if I'm not! I'm new to this forum, am having a hard time getting over my desire for a girl, but am unsure if I want to chance having a third child after having bad GD with ds2. Do you ladies have any tips for how to go ahead and make the decision? I'm thinking if we do go ahead, we will start trying after Christmas this year.

Welcome Serendipity! Yeah sounds like this is a good place for you to start! We are a group of mainly uk mums (and a few other nationalities too!) who have all been through/going through swaying. Some have been successful and some not but you will get great advice on here. You can also post in the ttc girl forum for lots of advice too but the uk mums usually hang out here.

[deaks66]

oh and serendipity, in answer to your question, i guess you have to ask yourself would you be ok with another boy? For me i just needed to felt like i had at least tried swaying as i hadn't heard of it before i conceived ds2.

[Babymad]

Hi Girls....

pinga ~ Great birth story so happy you and your little man are doing well :)

Hi everyone else....really tired today and need sleep! Managed to mow the lawn and do the gardening today as the weather was so nice but shattered now!

Inglewood ~ Fingers crossed it works!! Love the pics on FB :)

DS4 doing well, he doesn't wind well so still taking me an hour or longer on each feed but overall he's doing well :) he's really changed already...he's 10 days old today, I'm already stressed thats it going too quickly!!

Off for a hot bath...started diet today and I'm starving!! so I need distracting. Hoping to get into bed and read for bait...can you believe how many people are reading 50 shades....!!!

[zanacal]

I can't believe you're gardening and mowing the lawn Babymad! I'm so crap, I'm doing the bare minimum (poor DH has just got home from work and been sent straight out to Asda!!) and I'm still knackered!! Time is going so quicly isn't it? I can't believe Eliza is going to be 3 weeks old on Sunday. I had a happy thought this afternoon though - only a few weeks until the summer holidays and no school runs for 6 whole weeks .... and we can all have lie ins (hahaha!!) and stay in our PJs until lunchtime :D

[Babymad]

Lol Zanacal...I cant wait for PJ days :) Not sure how I'll be with 4 kids for 6 wks though ;)
How are finding it with DD after 3 boys? Must be wonderful to pick girly outfits and buy different things? Is it still sureal that you have a DD?
There is exactly a week between them as DS4 will be 2 weeks on sunday which will really stress me out...I absolutely love the newborn bit and feel very sad its my last time....Dont think I will ever be ok with never being able to have newborn cuddles again...it is the most magical thing in the world!

[Serendipity]

Thanks for your reply deaks, might come back later in the year if we do decide to go ahead x

[maybebabythree]

Hi serendpity . I think that you really have to be ok with the possibility if another boy. The more effort you put into swaying the more convinced you are that it's going to work and the worse the gd when it doesn't. Lucky for me I gave up on swaying as I couldn't get pg and just wanted a third.

Deaks I might do the pre testing as it's only a few hundred and then I tried (a bit lol!)

Babymad I feel exactly the same. Knowing it your lastnewborn is heartbreaking. I'm terminally broody!

Inglewood poor girls ds1 was like that too

[zanacal]

Lol Zanacal...I cant wait for PJ days :) Not sure how I'll be with 4 kids for 6 wks though ;)
How are finding it with DD after 3 boys? Must be wonderful to pick girly outfits and buy different things? Is it still sureal that you have a DD?
There is exactly a week between them as DS4 will be 2 weeks on sunday which will really stress me out...I absolutely love the newborn bit and feel very sad its my last time....Dont think I will ever be ok with never being able to have newborn cuddles again...it is the most magical thing in the world!

In all honesty it's no different to having a baby boy - she still eats, sleeps and poos like the boys did :-) It's lovely choosing her outfits but she usually poos or sicks all over them and ends up in a sleepsuit anyway! I am really enjoying her but I think that's because she's my 4th and I've become more relaxed with each baby and not because she's a she! Are you more relaxed this time too - or were you anyway?! I was quite uptight when the first 2 were babies but not so much with DS3 and I really enjoyed him as a baby too.

[Serendipity]

Thanks maybebabythree, I hadn't thought of that side of things. I was thinking if I did sway at least I wouldn't be able to blame myself if DS3 came along, but totally get your point, sometimes too much hope can be dangerous!

[charlieispy]

Hi ladies

sorry little action on here again another nightmare week ds1 and 2 had coughing viral thing gave it to ds3 who has always suffered with his chest so on tuesday thought I better get it checked before it got worse....went thinking i would get antibiotics ended up being sent to the hospital as his temp was 39.4 heartrate at highest was 175 and his sats were really low!!! I was all calm until I realised the constantly rapid bleeping noise was his heartrate! They couldnt get his temp or heartrate down - ended up with an xray and threat of IV antibiotics as he was spitting all the meds out. Luckily we finally got some down him and at 11.30 they let us go home with inhaler, and antibiotics plus eye drops as he not only had a chest infection but an eye and throat one too!!

THANK GOD baby is still in my belly couldnt imagine having to deal with this with a newbie x indy def on the mend but VERY wheezy still hates all his meds and not sleeping properly and has eaten 1 packet of raisins, a kitkat and some grapes since monday night!!! I now have the bloody cough and am paranoid i will either put myself into labour or wet myslef lol

On a positive note just booked in for my homebirth YAY

oooooooh for all these weenie babies being weeks old, babymad am dreading the weeks flying by god i remember sobbing when packing ds3 newborn clothes away this time i will be even worse!

Welcome serendipity - hope you find the support you need here it is a lovely group x x my advice would be only sway if you can handle another boy.....i know i thought i could but i think because i swayed so hard I found it even harder that it had failed but that is me personally i know i will love my baby boy its just been a very very hard journey

[charlieispy]

As for the holidays I am looking forward to them - i usually love them but after I had ds3 i did find it very hard still being in the learning curve of going from 2 to 3 and the weather was rubbish and DH working 6 days a week. This time i have my mum with holiday to take and we are going away so it will definitely help - been trying to find a couple of days in a club for the older boys so they dont get too bored, everything is so expensive though!!

[threelittlemenandcounting]

Hello Ladies hope you all have a lovely weekend, feeling jealous of those with little baies, feeling very broody today !! Busy weekend ahead of tidying clearing, sorting and decluttering ready for extension in 4 weeks time !

[pinga]

Hi all

Oh doesn't time go too quickly as soon as they are out. DS3 is only 1 week old and it feels as though it has gone in a flash. I'm trying to get in as many cuddles as I can. Babymad - I adore the newborn bit too... Duke's currently curled up on my chest in that little ball way that they have in the beginning.

DS3 has been pretty good, although last night was the longest. He just gets unsettled - took 4 hours to get him back down again. Stump has finally fallen off - ugh that is the worst bit!!!! I HATE the cord stump!
BFing going well - did have grazed nipples so very ouchy for a few days. I adore BFing... so enjoying that.

Charlie - what a stress... poor little guy. My DS1 always gets hit by chest infections...DH had to take him to the childrens hospital the night before bubba arrived. Hope your bubba waits until you have a healthy household again!!

I look forward to school holidays as it means DH is home!!!! :D He's off for 4 weeks with the new arrival which is wonderful.

Anyways I'm rambling on...
hope everyone else is going well....

[indigoviolet]

Pinga- glad you are enjoying the baby cuddles. Amazing that dh has so much time off, hopefully you will get lots of help and sleep.

I'm super tired at the mo but negotiated with work yesterday only to do another 2 weeks, so thank goodness I don't need to work until the end of term.

charlie- I'm getting that feeling of feet under my ribs all the time now, so squashed in there and I still have ages to go! I have a short body so there is not a lot of room. Poor dh had to go to hospital this afternoon with severe tonsilitis and he couldn't even drink. So I guess I'm more tired not getting help at the moment.

Exciting about your extension TLM, I hate the chaos of building of it but it will be amazing when it is done.

Love to you all, catch up tomorrow :HH:

[maybebabythree]

I think my broodyness might finally be over! Yippie! So loving three I just love it, feels really great so far

Where's your baby Charlie? (are you fed up of hearing that yet?)

[Kell]

Oh cr@p today I finally clicked that this little lady could be arriving any time really and I have to endure hours of labour :( I'm scared this time, not sure why just am. While queuing in asda with my breast pads and maternity pads the scary realisation set in lol
How have u mummies found the after pains this time round? I think that's what I'm scared of most :S

I am finally all sorted for the arrival, have the moses basket next to the bed ready, all clothes washed, pram out the loft, house almost there, I imagine my labour will be spent cleaning tho lol.

Hope u are all good :) Charlie how are u??

[chocolate]

Just saying a quick Hi to everyone, Ive been popping on and reading and running as haven't been able to keep up and reply to posts.
I have about 9/10 weeks to go, only 2 or 3 weeks left working now so am looking forward to stopping and being able to commit myself fully to just my family.

Hope everyone is well and I keep checking for baby news :-)

[zanacal]

So exciting to read about all the babies due soon!

Kell - the afterpains were quite bad but nothing to get worried or scared about. Just keep dosed up on paracetamol and ibuprofen and you'll be fine and they only last around a week so they're soon done with. You'll be fine with your labour too, try and stay calm and relax and just look forward to the baby you'll get at the end of it! I kept telling myself in my head that each contraction was bringing my baby closer :D I finally had the birth I always wanted this time around and I actually feel quite sad that I'm forgetting the details!

[maybebabythree]

Kell it's normal to have a wobble at this point - I did! You will be fine. After pains are worse the more you have. But as zanacal says don't skip on the painkillers. I thought mine would be worse. They came and went it wasn't constant pain.

Chocolate I've missed you. Hope your doing well x

[deaks66]

i am dreading the after pains! sorry i've been awol a while, mr grey has been keeping me busy. Hoping to finish book 3 today and resume normal life! :)

[auroara78]

rofl @ "mr grey"...yeah, it took me a minute to catch the fifty shades reference...when I first read it, I thought it was a weird name for your DH haha!

[Kell]

I've heard a lot about the books but haven't got round to buying yet. I'm not sure if reading them while this pregnant is a good idea lol

[zanacal]

Are they worth reading? The reviews on Amazon are awful - I was going to download it to my Kindle last night but that put me off! What are they about?!!

[maybebabythree]

The only thing I read nowadays are baby related. Reading baby talk at the mo supposed to be great for speech development. Had it almost a year and only on pg 17 so really trying to read it for dave even though it was meant for ds2. Also got all the Jodie picoult books but 'handle with care' was doing my head in. Honestly I'm to thick to read now. I can only read on the beach or by the pool (but not even then as one the brood might be face down in the water)

[Babymad]

Hi girls.....

Hows everyone doing?

Inglewood~ how's the girls doing?

Z ~ My after pains were harsh too - I agree pop lots of pills!

Pinga~ hope you are enjoying those newborn cuddles....he is gorgeous!

Indigo ~ not long to go now!

Kell ~ how exciting, hope it all goes well!

Deaks ~ we need a bump pic ;)

Maybe ~ hope Dave is doing well?

Sunset ~ hope you are doing good too!

Charlie ~ lovng your bump pics!

Chocolate ~ Hi!

Hi to anyone I've missed x

Mega busy here the last week.....school/ playgroup runs with newborn is a task...well trying to get everyone ready and out the door defo is! Especially when you have been up most the night and completely exhausted! I'm I am completely shattered and could fall asleep standing up most days.....but that's down to my diet too so can't blame bubs for all the tiredness :)
I've lost 8lb in 6 days :)

DS4 is doing well, loving the newborn bit loads :)

I am totally engrosed and obsessed with Fifty Shades!! I absolutely love it. I'm stil on book 1, but towards the end now. Don't want it to end :( Can't believe you've nearly finished book 3 Deaks....you must be a quick reader or lots of free time :) I am totally smitten with Mr Grey and I love how mysterious he is. Can't wait for the film :)

Ok off for a hot bath xx

[chocolate]

Maybe - Im well thanks, as well as can be with 2 kiddies and pregnancy lol. Life has been hectic, just usual busy stuff but in 2 weeks its all calming down and the calender will be clear, then summer holidays - if u can still call it summer! - will be nice to chill with my boys and get ready for bubba 3.
Im really broody for this one now, keep seeing the cute naked babies on pampers ads and looking forward to having a baby again.

Still get the odd comments, my friend is expecting her 3rd girl and after seeing my boys running around said 'see DH maybe having 3 girls isn't so bad lol' - how rude! But I know its probably a defence mechanism and afterwards she probably kicked herself.

Fifty shades of grade - haven't read it or have a clue what its about, apart from maybe a saucy theme? But everyone is talking about it everywhere!

Oh yes, after pains, they were much much worse with DS2 that I was huddled over until someone offered me painkillers and they worked a treat and I hardly felt them, Ill be asking them to get the paperwork ready for the painkillers for afterwards the minute I get to the labour ward this time lol.

[Inglewood]

Hi all, been MIA a few days as girls been keeping me busy! That's our kids school hols summer started today (it's rained all day, good start!)...eek! 7wks of 'what are we doing today mum?' Had girls at Gp due to serious constipation from SMA staydown, so finally got gaviscon and told to put them on SMA gold. So just binned...£30 worth of Aptamil, Aptamil comfort and SMA staydown! FX the gaviscon works! Had my last postnatal shape up today, but to go another 2wks being a twin pg!

Lovely to hear some new bubba's will be here soon....

Sorry no personals, had a bit of a 'wobbly' day! so emotionally and physically shattered! love to u all x

[zanacal]

I feel your pain with the school runs Babymad! This morning I made the mistake of getting the boys ready and leaving the baby until last. I fed her and we were ready to go at half 8 and then she projectile vomited it over us both and the sofa - we both needed a complete change of clothes (and nothing fits me!) then I had to feed her again. We were so late! I had another mum bring the oldest two home today because she wanted to bring her little girl to meet the baby - I was in a good mood all day knowing I wouldn't have to do the school run! She's offered to do it more regularly for me but I'd feel bad taking her up on that offer for some reason. Still, she's having the boys for tea on Monday after school (the biggest 2 anyway!) so she's officially my favourite person at the moment.

I think bubba wants to go to bed now so we'll be off upstairs for boob and sleep :D Night!

[Inglewood]

Z, I've had a ton of mums chap the door before school and offer to take the boys to school,which is FAB!!!! My dh is home by 2pm each day, so someone can collect them.

Trying to catch up with all the posts from the different forums, but not getting far! Had an awful past 6wks or so with girls having colic, reflux and constipation. Changed their baby milk a few times and now have baby gaviscon, Fx it works. They were so settled until 6wks old and now at 12wks they are still unsettled. Went to see the GP yest and Changed milk yest and started gaviscon, so please let this work it's such a wee shame! Deaks has been a star and helped by sending a cd of white noise!! AMAZING!!!

I have new found respect for mums of twins, when I was pg, don't think I thought it would be quite as hard, esp since they were so good the 1st 6wks. A first time mum of twins like yourself, what alot to get ur head around! My MIL is my hero now!! She had the same as me, a 9yr old, 5yr old and then twins and my FIL (who I've never met) left her for another woman and bankrupt!! So she did it all alone. She had 3 jobs and 4 kids, so I've always respected her, but even more so now!! Her sister (10yrs older than her) would sit with the kids while she cleaned houses and schools and worked in her dad's green grocers. And I moan that I'm shattered with 4 kids, Dh about and no work until October! shame on me! I struggled yestand had a bit of a 'psycho' episode trying to get to gp appt, my mum was going slow and when I came back from my shape up class the girls weren't ready, so I had 15mins to change and dress them, put 4 kids in the car, park the car and get to my appt!! STRESS!!! My front door jammed at the lock trying to leave and my mum managed to put the sterilising tong in the toaster!!!!! and it melted when she put some bread in it for toast. So not a good day... hence the 'psycho' episode!!

I've felt very lightheaded recently, think I'm exhausted but getting me a bit worried. BP ok wonder if blood count low?? really need to see doc about it, but feel like I've been there alot recently with my wound infection then pains I had internally. Know I should go as I also have a breast abcess which I have cream to treat myself (get them now and then, but alot worse after a pg).

Better go get dressed, one blessing of the school hols....it's 10am and no-one is dresses!!! and no hurry as it's pouring outside and no place to go....well other than buying a new toaster later!!! x

[Babymad]

Z ~ Its never ending some days eh! Just when you think you are organised and its all going ok and then chaos erupts!!
I had to take DS2 to his swimming lesson after school yesterday with all 4 kids! They were well behaved but I found it very stressful - probably because I am so bloody tired and irritable! I felt bad that I had done nothing but shout and moan until the minute we got home. Sometimes I just get anxious too which makes me in a bad mood and I take it out on the boys.....
Well done on the BF :) I am very envious of mums who can master it :)

Inglewood ~ Lots of hugs hun, sounds like you've got a lot to deal with at the mo, but remember you are doing a great job and your girls will be easier in time. What are your plans for the school holidays?

I am so envious that you get help with the school runs......I would love a break but not long to go now!!

DH not talking to me as he read my message that I put on our FB Grp.....my fault as I hadn't clicked off the page and he logged on....I snatched the iPad and just screamed that he should get his own FB account as I'm fed up with him using mine!! He obviously thinks I've got something to hide now as I put that I didn't want him reading the pop ups....MEN!!!

[Kell]

Oh dear Babymad, my oh would have the hump about that too,

Inglewood your doing a great job but defo get to the doctors, could u be anemic? Hope te gavison helps the girls :) god I could use some of that at the min, the heartburn I'm getting is horrible :(

Zanacal I've got all that to come oh joy lol, altho I suppose with her being due at the beginning of the 6week holiday hopefully I'll get into the swing of things before I have to do the school run with a new baby.
I've been quite lucky in a sense as dp still isn't working so I have only had to sort myself and ds1. It's been good having dp around but I really hope he gets on of the jobs he's being interviewed for this week, I'm starting to panic about money now and don't really need that with birth around the corner :S

[pinga]

Kell - wow you are due soon :D You'll be fine!! ohhh I feel a bit guilty regarding afterpains... mine have been practically non-existent. I haven't needed any painkillers or anything afterwards. You never know... you might be lucky too!!

Z - ooh don't feel bad about that mum helping - any help is fantastic! Enjoy! :)

Managed to go to playgroup today and I really need to allow an extra half an hour at least to get bub ready!!! Lovely to get out of the house and see my mum friends.

We're off to get DS3 tongue tie cut tomorrow. Am hoping that it makes BFing a little easier - my poor cracked left nipple :P It helped with DS1 so fingers crossed.

Anyway I need to get to bed while DS3 is actually quiet for a bit!

[maybebabythree]

Good luck withe snip pinga. It really helped for me.

Inglewood you sound worn out. it will get better. Never seems like that though.

Babymad I'm glad your enjoying little bubs. It can be really hard getting out the door. I just lower my standards. They are rock bottom right now. I try really hard not to snap at my kids but some days I do and I just have to apologise. Ds1 was stroking my face and got my teddy last week as I was shattered. I realised he shouldn't be doing that as it's my job but sometimes it gets on top of you. Were all just human.

Mil will be here again soon. She has graced us with her presence for just six weeks as she said she felt she wouldn't be welcome for her normal eight weeks. Omg that woman has a thicker skin than a rhino! After last year and me shouting and swearing in front of the kids to get out of my f...ing house let's see what this visit brings. I am going to try to agree with everything she says and play the idiot as that's how she sees me. Unless she starts telling me to stop breast feeding and start weaning! Ah the great good old advice 'I was giving my baby's mashed up dinners at six weeks' and 'your gran put wiskey in your dads bottle at night' I love that advice. Shame there's a child protection act these days or I too would give the baby some vodka to settle him at night.

[indigoviolet]

Ds1 was stroking my face and got my teddy last week as I was shattered. I realised he shouldn't be doing that as it's my job but sometimes it gets on top of you. Were all just human.

That is so cute of your ds, what a sweetheart! Can't believe your mil is coming again for so long. I had my mil here a couple of weeks ago for about 4 days and it nearly drove me insane. You are made of stronger stuff than me! Really hope it goes better this time.

Pinga- I got ds2's tongue tie done and it did really help with the feeding. I did think it would be instant but it took about 7-10 days for him to relearn how to feed and then it was perfect.

[indigoviolet]

Babymad ((hugs)), you are dealing with a lot at the moment, don't be too hard on yourself. You are doing a brilliant job and being irritable and cross etc is totally normal and expected, we have all been there :HH:

[Sunset]

Hi ladies!!! Hope you’re all doing ok! I’ve been mostly catching up with you all on fb..

Maybebaby ~ wow 6 weeks... that’s erm.. a long time! Your mil sure has some nerves after how she treated you last time.

Pinga ~ good luck with the procedure today! I’m sure it will go well and he’ll soon feed like a little champ :)

Kell ~ 36 weeks already.. are you all packed and ready for baby’s arrival?

Babymad ~ i’m sorry you’re feeling tired and stressed.. it’s only natural so soon after having had a baby.. My baby is 6 months next week and i’m still tired and stressed constantly lol it just never ends for me haha. I love the pictures on fb, your little baby boy is so cute! You have such a beautiful family!

Zanacal ~ love the pictures on fb!! I too am a fifty shades fanatic! I love the books! I’ve read the first 2 in the series and I’m about to start the 3rd book tonight. I think it’s one of them book series you either love or hate :)

Inglewood ~ fx the gaviscon will make a difference soon!

Chocolate ~ what an awful thing to say to a friend! You’re right it probably was a defence mechanism on her side. Don’t let it get to you.

I have a boy’s mama on fb who has announced she’s pregnant again this morning and the gender comments have already started rolling in. It makes me feel so angry thinking how inconsiderate people are..

AFM I have poorly boys in my house today.. probably something viral again, so i’m taking the opportunity to do some serious tidying while we’re all cooped up in the house. I’m looking forward to the meet up in august! I really can’t wait! :)
My mum is coming over from Sweden to visit us next week, I have missed her so much and can’t wait to get some help with the kids and the house for a few weeks since my PIL’s are useless at helping out.

Big waves to anyone one I’ve missed to mention, hope you’re all doing ok! I can’t believe how many babies are due soon!! Seems all your pregnancies flew by :)

[maybebabythree]

Sunset - I think mil is a bit insane lol! I met dh when was 16 and I think she has had a problem with me. I'm not her type of person. I am going to try to keep myself to my myself and bite my lip. Last year she said she doesn't like me having people in my house (sister, best friend etc) and she doesnt like me talking to people (what??!!) I have taken her to my friends and toddler groups in the past but never again!!I don't even want her to come on the school run as she has a face like slapped bum when I talk to the other mums. Save is being baptised while she is here. God help me - how do I ignore my family and friends there? Also she keeps on banging on about how crap my marriage is. Dh says he loves me all the time so if she does that again this year I'm going to play up to it and tell her I didn't realise he had told her that am I'm leaving him. Then take the kids to my mums. She does that a lot. Told dh that his dad feels he has alienated his dad. Dh asked his dad and she had made it up! There divorced and nor even in contact! I could on and on. I'm dreading it. Everything I do she finds fault with.

Sunset I feel your pain with the speech issues. Our waiting list is a year long here. I'm going private if school also thinks there is a problem.

[deaks66]

Hi girls, i've got some serious catching up on posts to do! seem to be a bit behind on everything at the moment so not going to pick up another book for a few weeks. Will write more when i've had a good read through your posts! Babymad, hope you're ok! X

[Kell]

I have everything ready at home for her arrival sunset but nope haven't done much for hospital bag :(
It's so blinking hot at the moment I'm lucky I can stand for longer than 5mins. Had the midwife today baby is at the brim of my pelvis so she's getting herself ready, I've lost some plug today as well :( but Unfortunatly for me that's not a sign of labour lol, I seem to have had an almost constant braxton hick the last 12 hours as well so it's all fun here lol.
What weekend did u guys decide for the meet?

[Babymad]

Hope you haven't got too long to wait Kell :)

Sunset ~ I hope you have a lovely time with your mum :)

Maybe ~ You are very good to have your MIL stay again....theres no way I could do it! Invest in lots of vino :)

Baby blues kicked in this week :( Been very teary. DH and I still not talking really - only when we need too! Things have been a bit rubbish on and off for awhile.....most of my pg infact. Not sure what to do to sort it really, seems we just argue all the time at the moment :(
Felt very lonely this week......good job I have my kids to keep me happy and smiling xx

[Babymad]

Mrs Incredible ~ You can download tapatalk on your iPhone and add this forum and other forums :) Its good for catching up on whats going on :) x

[maybebabythree]

Babymad it's still such early days. I think we put too pressure on ourselfs as mums to feel great and to carry on. Bit a new baby is a really big deal. You've felt I'll and tierd for almost a year so you shouldn't expect to feel normal you again for a while yet. I feel lonely too some days. Went to a toddler group yesterday but it seems that everyone there already knows each other and I find them to join in. Also I will miss ds2 when he starts school and his company so that reinforces I need to return to work for adult company. I joined a nct group and keep arranging met ups but not everyone replies. It's hard work some days. so I feel the same as you. Can you just sit dh down and tell him you need him? You miss him and needs cuddle? Maybe a little step each day until you feel you confront the arguing? It's just tiredness on both sides I'm sure xxxx

[deaks66]

oh babymad, im so sorry to hear you are suffering. Can you try and sit down with dh tonight or this weekend and clear the air as it sounds like you really need him to be there for you?

I still haven't caught up on previous posts but am trying to get on here more often :)

Sunset, enjoy having your mum around. And i too cant wait for the meet up!

Kell, do your babies normally come a bit early?

Hi everyone else!

[Kell]

Nope Deaks the boys were both born on the day after their due dates. I'm hoping this one is the same or a little earlier :)

[fiveboysandagirl]

My friend has 5 kids 3 boys then 2 girls, she said the uneven numbers ie, baby 1, 3 and 5 were the worst deliveries!! lol

Deaks, did u have a scan today? x

Ooh that's interesting. I have 5 and that theory works for me too.
Xx

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[deaks66]

oh no, my first baby was a hideous delivery with lots of complications. ds2 was easier.... doesn't bode well for ds3!

[Mrs_Incredible]

Mrs Incredible ~ You can download tapatalk on your iPhone and add this forum and other forums :) Its good for catching up on whats going on :) x
Thanks honey, I only have an android phone tho, booo rubbish!!

Hi girls. I tried to catch up but was on page 9 and gave up. Lovely to speak to some of you on FB, just so much easier for me. I'm about to embark on my research so I can think about trying a GD sway. Not sure if I can embark on that crazy train again, but also, don't feel done yet despite having my hands full!!

Maybe - my ds#1 is 8 and a right little mummy with Ciaran too!! So sweet seeing him so protective. DS2 is 5 and just starting to play with Ciaran, I think they'll be good play mates. Unfortunately Ciarans at the 'into everything he shouldn't be' stage. Forgot how tiring that is. He's not interested in the toy mountain and hates his play pen too. Think he's teething again. He's such a little smasher tho :)

Good luck with the meet!! xxxx

[Mrs_Incredible]

Oh dear, I'm overwhelmed already!!! The IG sway was all consuming and this looks as if it'll take as much work. No pain, no gain tho!!

[maybebabythree]

Mrs I our boys are the same ages! I love eight. It's the best age so far. My eldest is so witty and charming but still really innocent still. We sometimes really joke about and I forget he's my son and he's more like my mate. Ihope he's still lovely when he's a teen! Dave has decided he's a mummy's boy and screams when dh has him. He only has eyes for me. Lovely and draining at the same time.

The more time passesthe more I think I'm done with three. It's really seems perfect right now. Strange as it was my picture of ideal family life but I can't belive how well it's all worked out. Good luck with your plan. You never know I might be tempted again one day. I don't think I could take that planning again! X

[zanacal]

Oh dear, I'm overwhelmed already!!! The IG sway was all consuming and this looks as if it'll take as much work. No pain, no gain tho!!

Do you know you can buy a personalised sway plan if you don't have time/don't want to do the research yourself? There's a separate forum for it.

[Wishing4Pink]

Hi girls, was wondering if i could question you. Basically the oh hurt his hand last weekend and got put on anitbiotics, things didn't improve so he got admitted to hospital thur night where he still is at the moment but fingers crossed coming out today. This is supposed to be my first attempt this week and typically had a smiley opk yesterday at 4pm, didn't get a chance to do earlier as i was at the hospital. I did test the night before at 8pm and it was neg. Cut off has gone out the window but do i still have a chance at O+12 if he comes out today?? Trying to stay calm at the moment, doesn't help that ds2 is poorly and been throwing up everywhere!! x

[Wishing4Pink]

Oh forgot that opk was positive today aswell x

[Kell]

Yes I'd say you could still have a chance, do you know how long after your +opk's that you ovulate because it's different for everyone.

[Wishing4Pink]

I'm not sure to be honest Kell, although i've never ov 24 hours later, it's normally more than that x

[Kell]

Well I'm officially a watermelon now :) into the home stretch now!

Got all my hospital bits brought and a couple ordered so nearly there! I went to look around the maternity unit yesterday as there has been a multi million pound overhaul done on it, wow!! I can wait to have baby now :) as I'm midwife led its so relaxed, just like home as much as it can be, and you have a room for your whole stay your not put on to the ward like you use to be. The birthing pool looks awesome as well it's huge! Still think I'll be here well into 41+ weeks tho lol

[deaks66]

Wishing i definitely think you would have been fine for o+12. Mine normally go neg before o+12 and my o+12 is 48 hrs after ov i believe! everyones different though and my bubs is proof that i was pretty crap at swaying... ha ha!

[Babymad]

Hi everyone....

Just a quick hello from me..... I am poorly with a chest infection at the moment, I have had a fever for 3 days - feel dreadful :(

Thanks for your comments re baby blues/ DH.
We got on better at the week-end, DH said he was disappointed that I couldn't talk to him about things. He knows what this forum is all about and why I come on here, he says its a shame I can't talk to him about it - I replied by telling him that I get a lot of support from you guys on here and as much as I should talk to him too, he will never understand like you all do, but I agreed that we have stopped communicating and that we need to start talking again - so I feel lots better for that conversation! I think he realises now that it wasn't about me 'keeping' stuff from him.

Will catch up properly soon xxx