nub experts!!!!!...PLEASE!!!!...THANK YOU HEAPS GIRLS!!!YOUR ALL SO FAB!!!!:D GOD BLESS!!!!

[toomanyboys]

so i have had my scan at 10w4d to the dot and baby measuring exactly that.....and for the first time in 4 pregnancies i get a nub shot....but then i have one shot that is a decent girl nub and another whihc is a perfect boy nub......i am so gutted...i don't know whether to cry or be excited....

i thought thoruhg the scan that it looked pretty flat and girlish but there is a leg in the way at all times and it kept loking very boyish too.....in fact one of my pic it is a perfect boy nub but i am looking at the white line ansd that still more girl than boy......

if this is boy it has thrown me well offf......first of all becasue i have been sick to my stomach and looke awful...and never did with my boys, second....i am bang on dates so far baby a normal size....and third i had 4 predictions saying girl......

i will send you the first pic to see what you think and the second pic to show you how opposite it can look......althouhg having said that the second pic did show up leg all the time....somtimes the nub looked just too big whihc confirmed to me that it was the leg and not the nub but then again in the still pics it looks like a perfect boy nub.....

skull guesses are also welcome....confused!!!!!i am am neither happy nor sad right now....:):(

[dloui128]

I think it looks like a girl nub but I am definitely no expert, from what I understand though it is better to get a nub shot between 12-14 weeks.

[toomanyboys]

i thought that too for this pic..and althoug early baby seems to have developed quite nicely already...i got pic with baby curled up and a perfect boy nub....but don't want to show those yet because this is the only ever pic i ever had of any of my kids with the nub showing.....

[TTC5]

Too early to say because at 11 weeks it has time to rise.

[toomanyboys]

GULP!!!

[nuthinbutpink]

Way too early for even a guess. NT is 11-14 weeks usually.

ETA- at 11 weeks, the external structures are exactly the same. I'm not even sure what exists before 11 weeks!

[toomanyboys]

this is even more worrying....:(

[toomanyboys]

after reading all this and having that annoying nub pic where it looks very boyish....i will soon be moving to gender dissapointemnt forums....my day feels quite grey today.....i think i have hard 6monhts ahead of me....gonna take me long time to accept this......:(

if it DOES turn to be a boy.....i have no idea how i could have suffered so badly this time.....i guess ma just getting too old....:(.....i am also at loss what to do with all my beautiful girly stuff....i hardly have anything left form my boys.....:(.....oh god....depression is slowly seeping through...i am even too scared now to get my NT scan....what is the point....i am sure baby is fine...only wanted to pay to get to see baby again......won;t feel any better when things become more convincing...:(...pray for me please girls pray i can deal with this....becaue the last thing i ever did want is a boy i am afraid to say.......:(...i used to think i rather never conceive again.....i know i is harsch but i am not going to pretend all is good if this is a boy.....i will be hugely dissapointed.....i know time and the fact baby will be beautiful and healthy hopefully will deal with the dissapointment....but i know this will be always tugging at me heart esp when i see my little girl grow up all alone....without ever having a sister to share anything with...just like me....:(

[dloui128]

after reading all this and having that annoying nub pic where it looks very boyish....i will soon be moving to gender dissapointemnt forums....my feels quite grey today....:(

Don't get down hun, when is your next scan?

[toomanyboys]

well if i don't book my NT scan then my next one is in 9-10 weeks time.....if i book my NT then it is in 1-2 weeks time...but i am actually too scared now...too depressed....don;t even want to announce to anyone....

[sweetsister]

Dont be down hun,it is just to early because boy and girl nubs are identical at this stage Embryo Development external genital sex organs - angle of the dangle boy or girl ultrasound gender scan - Baby2see (http://baby2see.com/gender/external_genitals.html) Chin up buttercup you have time still before the guessing can start:flowerz:

[dloui128]

well if i don't book my NT scan then my next one is in 9-10 weeks time.....if i book my NT then it is in 1-2 weeks time...but i am actually too scared now...too depressed....don;t even want to announce to anyone....

Like Nuthinbutpink said both boy and girl nubs look the same before 11 weeks, I think you have a great shot at having a girl

[nuthinbutpink]

I don't understand the overreaction. Nothing has happened or changed since the day before. We are telling you it's simply too early. Go at 13 weeks and get a nub shot and no need to worry until after that. You certainly don't need to get rid of any girl stuff yet.

[toomanyboys]

LOL....i know...but you know how it is....i just feel i wuld overly blessed if i had the girl i wished for...it just seems too good to be true....and you know i am not one that has miracles happen everyday....my DD was a complete shock and blessing....i still look at her today and think is she for real???and she is 4!!!!....the idea that i will have another DD is almost impossible to imagine for me now....if my scan came back with no nub showing and no hint of either (whihc is what my DD@s) was like..then i wouldn't overreact like this....the fact i have proof in my hand the fact that one pic is very boyish the other is 50/50 and am told it can change to a boy nub yet....is not giving me any confidance.....its lamost like i have accepted defeat....i can read so many peopl'es nubs quite confidantly and and lean towrs one or the other...comes my bloddy scan and it turns out so unconvincing either way...iykwim?......i suppose i just wanted some kind of reassurance today...in my onw mind..let me post you the other pic....i am told by conographer it is part of the leg....but then i am thinking i have seen enough nub shots to know this can only mean one thing.....i am so so sorry to bring down the mood...:(...i will try and work at my negativity....promise....
so sorry

[nuthinbutpink]

Most women on here would consider you extremely lucky and blessed because you have children of both genders already. That is a blessing and for some, a miracle.

There's just no way to know gender at this stage.

[dloui128]

it looks like part of the leg to me

[myGirl]

Have you looked at the link sweet sister posted? At 10-11 weeks the boy and girl nubs look identical. You can't know if you have a boy or girl cooking in there yet, it's just too early!!! :)

Hugs to you, I know it's hard to wait, but try not to even analyze it yet until your baby is older and you go back for your nuchal or anatomy scan. :heart:

[toomanyboys]

Most women on here would consider you extremely lucky and blessed because you have children of both genders already. That is a blessing and for some, a miracle.

There's just no way to know gender at this stage.

i sense that your a bit annoyed with me...already....i am sorry..i really don't mean to offend...i know and am utterly greatful for all i have got...but this baby was totally unexpected...and tbh both hubby and i didn't really want to risk having another baby in case it is a boy....hubby was just happy to have the 4 now...but i was in the midts of convincing him to do PGD with me but then i found out i have PCOS and also that i don't ovulate....i was told to take clomid to kick start a normal cycle for a couple of months and see if it helps me with ovualtion so if i wanted to PGD (in greece next year) then i needed to get myself ovulating again....i did all this with no real intention to get pregnant naturally but the month i was told i am not Oand i didn't have a proper cycle eaither just spotting.... i took it easy...and bam...here i am....

so ou can understand now that i am i first worried to have this baby stick but all along i alwasy told myself that a dd would be prefereed over a boy.....obviously my son;s are a blessing for me..they all play together and they all get long nicely make me immensily proud..my ds3 and dd also play nicely together but there have already been a hadful of times where she has moaned she feels left out on some of the games the boys don;t feel like involving her in as she tends to cry too easily and feels a too scacred...it is at moments like these i feel having a boy now is going to beat that purpose....he will be hte youngest there will be a 6 year gap between him and his youngest brother (so by the time he i 5 his youngest brother will be a teenager) and 2 he has an older sister who would prefer girly things....you know....i obviously know that things fall into place and and everything will be OK..eventually but the dissapintemnt will linger still if that is the case.....both for myself and my ds4 and dd. ultimately he will be just as welcomed and loved too...and yes the one thing i can look forward to is new clothes and bedding....:)

[coocoobananas]

Everyone here says its too early so I say you start from scratch, it could be either or AND I would say for you to wait until birth to find out or you will be miserable for the rest of your pregnancy and that is a waste of your time!
Even if u felt lonely as a child, won't make your children's that way! I know girls with all brothers and they loved being the only girl, very protected! Gender dissaointment is hard... But you don't have a gender yet so I think you are getting ahead of yourself! Things might turn out exactly how you imagined, you just can't know at this point!

[toomanyboys]

maybe i should go ahead with the NT then? i suppose i can deal with the outcome for longer...maybe by 35 weeks i will be all overwhelmed with love and joy for ds4..:)

ahhhhh...GD not a good thing...i wish i never had it...at all......ds1 and d2 where bliss all round...no GD no fear just happy to have happy healthy babies....grrrrr..i need a good ickup my backside....

[nuthinbutpink]

Not annoyed. Just trying to help you keep perspective and realize you are blessed. I do hope you get a girl like you want. Sisters are great. Good luck!

[toomanyboys]

thank you all girls...i needed A GOOD TALKING TOO....seriously......i am trying nt to think about it now...my friend is telling me to get the nt done as i will otherwise drive myself crazy waiting until 20 weeks.....! so i may ust do that then will share the scan with all of you....your are a bunch of super lovely ladies....thansk so much for understanding....:)...really appreciate all your support.......hope i do the same to for others.....:)

[deaks66]

GD is a horrible thing and i think once you have been through it once (which you obviously did with ds3), it is a really scary thing to face going through again. But everything will be ok. Bubs may turn out to be a girl and if it doesn't, you will end up loving him just like you ended up loving ds3. I had gd with both ds2 and the one i am carrying and although it was horrific initially i am now so excited to be meeting ds3.... and i don't have even one dd! Will keep a look out for your next scan. GL! :)

[atomic sagebrush]

It's too early to tell. Honestly, with the crazy nubs I've been seeing lately I won't even guess before 13 weeks any more.

[atomic sagebrush]

this is even more worrying....:(

WHY??? Why is it worrying? Just because you can't tell yet? Stay calm, you have every chance at another girl!

PS - I had my worst morning sickness with my first baby when I was only 20 years old and he was a boy.

[NeedAGirl!]

Really, it is too early. Honestly. I can tell you though that I had my NT scan at 11 wks. I got 2 pics, 1 looked boy and 1 looked girl. It was driving me NUTS!! so I can completely relate. I actually felt more depressed than if I just knew it was a boy. That is why I did the 13wk 3d scan even though I already had my 16 wk scheduled. It seemed that from what I saw on here, at 13.5 wks boys are pretty obvious. Not always but usually they are with a nice clear picture. Because I paid for this scan, she took her time and got some great nub shots for me. I will find out in one week - cringe!! - if it is a girl but at least for the last 2.5 weeks I have been feeling really hopeful and actually happy. I feel like I will even be more ok with a boy now than I am not feeling so depressed. It was totally worth the $60 even if I don't hear what I want to hear next week.

[toomanyboys]

Really, it is too early. Honestly. I can tell you though that I had my NT scan at 11 wks. I got 2 pics, 1 looked boy and 1 looked girl. It was driving me NUTS!! so I can completely relate. I actually felt more depressed than if I just knew it was a boy. That is why I did the 13wk 3d scan even though I already had my 16 wk scheduled. It seemed that from what I saw on here, at 13.5 wks boys are pretty obvious. Not always but usually they are with a nice clear picture. Because I paid for this scan, she took her time and got some great nub shots for me. I will find out in one week - cringe!! - if it is a girl but at least for the last 2.5 weeks I have been feeling really hopeful and actually happy. I feel like I will even be more ok with a boy now than I am not feeling so depressed. It was totally worth the $60 even if I don't hear what I want to hear next week.

see i am going to be like you then.....i am 50/50 of getting the nt scan but it seems to me like unless i drive myself crazy and all the the ladies in the forums too....lol....i think i better get that nt scan and at least get some kind of closure.....eaither way life has to go on and i have to still love and settle for what i am blessed with.....i will have a great story to tell all my numerous grnadaughtrs how i wished my dd and i myself had lots of them...lol....oh well.....nevertheless hubby is going to have to be told this sunday.....YIKES.....i blew up the scan pic with the 'flat' nub as it is the nices and clearest of the baby and will present it in a card...i think whatever i find out eventually is easier handled with him knowing too....and then next week i wll book for my nt scan for around 12w+..to get the best possible results and maybe the best possible clearer pictures of the nub...ARGGGGHHHH

[Cinss]

Boy or girl it was obviously ment to be part of your family, goodluck i hope its a girl.

[fivebabies]

Don't forget that even "perfect" boy or girl nub shot can be wrong! :) Don't torture yourself Hun. GL!

[toomanyboys]

aww...girls well i try not to but i am going to be honest with you..the last days have been rough....i go from being totally indifferent (or trying to) to total despair....i got up 5 today a i had dreams about my scan and it was boy then girl then boy and how i didn't want to see any boy nubs...it was a bit bizarre really.....i don't know....then i am thinking i do not want to get the NT done now because i liked the idea of not knowing and still hoping...but what if my NT will be plain as day? i don't know GD pretty bad at the moment.....i really have no idea how to accept this baby if it is a boy.....and i don't mean physically but emotionally...i cannot describe it obviously i love him/her to bits...but i am so convinced this was a girl.....to be thrown off like this is really taking its toll on my emotions...and ys i know noting is confirmed yet and i am trying to stay positive...but it is something i cannot control but am trying really hard to deal with the GD as it is overwhelming me at times....for one i have not a tiny clue what to name him....if it is a him.....i had all these plans for a girl.....i don't know.....can only pray god gives me strength to deal with this and i am sure i will....but for now it is extremely hard......:(

[dloui128]

aww...girls well i try not to but i am going to be honest with you..the last days have been rough....i go from being totally indifferent (or trying to) to total despair....i got up 5 today a i had dreams about my scan and it was boy then girl then boy and how i didn't want to see any boy nubs...it was a bit bizarre really.....i don't know....then i am thinking i do not want to get the NT done now because i liked the idea of not knowing and still hoping...but what if my NT will be plain as day? i don't know GD pretty bad at the moment.....i really have no idea how to accept this baby if it is a boy.....and i don't mean physically but emotionally...i cannot describe it obviously i love him/her to bits...but i am so convinced this was a girl.....to be thrown off like this is really taking its toll on my emotions...and ys i know noting is confirmed yet and i am trying to stay positive...but it is something i cannot control but am trying really hard to deal with the GD as it is overwhelming me at times....for one i have not a tiny clue what to name him....if it is a him.....i had all these plans for a girl.....i don't know.....can only pray god gives me strength to deal with this and i am sure i will....but for now it is extremely hard......:(

:hugs:

[toomanyboys]

well..so i had a shitty night...sorry for the lingo....but i dreamt i went for my 12week NT scan and there was no mistaken that the nub was a boy nub....the dream was soooooooooooooo real....that in my dream rather than anything surreal or unrealistic i was struggling wihtthe GD that set in..and overwhelming sadness crept over me and all i could think about is my poor daughter....what was the point of this baby and maybe it will be OK....i can't change anything and in my dream making the announcelment to people including my kids who all were sad and a dissapointed too but at the same time their kids so more accepting.....i was just devasted but tried to be happy about it and deal with it...then i woke up.....there was a wave of relief of course but i am so much more dissapointed....i had severe to nasty MS yesterday ( and i thought it was getting better but i really suffered alot yesterday and had the worst migraine EVER....and then i get this dream....)it seems all in vain now...:(i prayed to god years before that make me suffer really bad with MS if you grant me a girl i will be willing to deal with it....ans now here were so far he si grantng e that wish:(.
i cannot belive how confidant every single day form the moment i found out until my dating scan i had beenabout this being a girl......ALL THE SIGNS are that of this being more a girl baby than a boy baby and i got 3 boys and 1 girl to compare it to....and now i have turned a whole 180 degrees...and am where i was 5 years ago when i was expecting my DD and didn't know.....the GD is making me misrable and the only thing i can think of is how i should be greatful that baby should be healthy and that it is still alive and ultimately i have my DD already.....but i am devasted for her already as i know she would have benefited immensily....as i am now thinking my instincts tell me i cannot rely on my feelings or any symptoms or predictions any more and this will probably be the baby boy who defies all symptoms and predictions.....
really depressed.....i still pray to god to have mercy on me and understand what a big deal this is for me but at the same time i don't want to tempt faith and be greedy so my main prayer is now.....god help me deal with the GD..help me deal with the day and the revelations that this will be a boy...i just wish i could turn off the switch that is fearing a boy baby and just be delighted for it instead....but its not happening so far.......i am miserable and i don't want to feel this way.....i really don't.....and i am greatful....but like bloody cold or disease i seem to have no power over it....as for now...:(....

[Gentle]

Toomanyboys, I know you are struggling and I have a lot of sympathy for your feelings but I want you to hear this through them and turn your focus hopefully.

I am one girl in a family of boys - 3 brothers. Yes it was hard and lonely at times, but I haven't talked to anyone from a large family who DIDN'T feel like that, whatever the gender composition. In fact, the very worst sibling relationships I know are between sisters! Your daughter will take her lead from you, and you can help her have just as close relationships with her brothers as she might with a sister and maybe, just maybe, God is giving her the sibling she needs to be her best friend and shape her into being a great woman. Don't fear for her!

And stop panicking. It is too early to be sure anyway! Have you got a busy day ahead?

[toomanyboys]

thank you so much.....it does help...i think whatever happens esp if this turns out to be a boy it will take a a good few years to really get over the negativity of it all...of course i will cuddle and love and be totally besotted for my new son...but.....i know that i have this annoying nagging 'regret' i didn't have another dd. like you i am the ONLY girl out of 3 of us...and although for a long time i managed to be a happy bunny and didn't let the fact that i never had a sister stop me from making good friendships and enjoying my childhood as a girl (my mother never once made me feel i needed a sister..bless her) i had my handful of very hard and hurtful experinces where sisters ganged up on me when they made up, where sisters had each other in times where they are really needed and even freind's cannot replace...and i felt i missed that....funny enough it is only recently i made a friend herself who is an only girl....my mum (they are 5 sisters) and all my cousins that i know of have sisters of their own...and every single friend in the past that i know has at leats one sister or more....and yes i have seen the worst but also the best in that and i do know that the benefits outweigh the negaitves....but it is when i reached adulthood got married and had kids that it really hit home....i suffered alot being on my own having kids whilst all my friends shared theirs with each other's sisters helping out doing things together and being there for each other and their kids....that reliability that you couldnt get wiht just friends i missed that alot and still do...picking dropping holidaying...and all the cousins being a bit more closer with each other.i know i missed out on all that and i didnt want my DD to go through the same....my mum lives in germany and both my brothers are still bachelors it would have helped had they married and have kids of their own....at least i would have enjoyed havuing nieces to fill the void or maybe even good SIL's? i don't know......there is just so much negativity i see in having this child and it being boy right now...we only now started enjoying out holidays being able to go everywhere with the kids and not worrying about caring for a baby....i know i have to get over this but it is going to be really hard...its going to take a long time...just pray for people like us to keep positive and strong and learn to deal with it. deal with the darn GD..thats all i can ask for....because the rest is god's hands....and am trying to think he has some good reason of why and if i end up with 4 sons....i'd like to think that one day will look back and be thankful i did......
my US pic that looks boyish just shows me too much of a nub that is pointing straight up...(at the time i tried to look carefully if it was the leg and it seemed like it was...but then the pic i got now to hand is there for me to see everyday...and the moe i look at it the more i wonder.....also the one that has the flat nub still has time to rise becasue it is too early.....the indication is this baby has more of a chance to turn out boy than girl...and that is why i am jumping to conclusions...i cannot find any nub pic that looks like mine even at 10weeks (mine is 10.4 weeks in fact) where somewhat of anub points upward and doesnt end up being a boy...so i would say there is 70% chance it will be more boy than girl....i suppose i want to prepare now...mentally....that is why i am making these conclusions....am even toying wih the idea that i will keep this baby a suprise as i think i will be miserable if i do find out.....:(..i just wan tot enjoy this pg as it is my last....

[nini]

Gender disappointment is awful. The anticipation of gender disappoint even worse. I wished for weeks (even now I had a tendency although it gets better the more I see my litlte boys face in every scan, the more he looks "ready" and like a proper baby) that I hadnt tried again. That I would have stopped at a height. At what I already had. I could get away with it, you know? A son from a previous relationship, much older and a pigeon pair with my husband.

Put the pictures away. Stay away from the internet. Stop googleing symptoms, nub shots etc. Try not to think about it.

I probably wouldnt want to find out again as soon as I did (around 12 weeks), I would prefer to wait a bit longer. Just because I carry gender disappointment aroudn with me for weeks. It always gets better once the baby is here, but its such a long wait.

At times when I feel really bad I snuggle up to my kids and feel how blessed I am. I feel it does not matter, its just something in my and other peoples heads. I have a daughter, so do you. That is amazing, simply amazing. Have you thought about what you could do with just one daughter, how you could spoil her rotten being the only girl? How you can take her shopping and spend a fortune on her? Mine is my little princess, she wont have to share her throne with anyone and she has lots of brothers to protect her. That is what I am telling myself all the time now. xxxx

[MissMyChem]

What is the nub?

[nuthinbutpink]

What is the nub?

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ultrasound-gender-prediction/60-nub-guessing-between-12-14-weeks.html