View Full Version : Has anyone conceived a girl without losing weight?
Pangea
June 29th, 2012, 11:48 AM
Nearly every successful girl sway I read seems to involve weight loss. I'm worried about it because my BMI is 18.3 and I don't have much weight to lose. I might manage to lose a couple of pounds a month for the first couple of months, but it took 9 months to conceive DS2 and I think I would probably stop ovulating if I continued to lose weight every month.
I'm really worried that I'm not going to be able to conceive a girl because of this. I've been searching on here and ingender for examples of successful girl sways where it was indicated that weight was maintained but I can't find any.
Before conceiving DS2 I had previously lost a lot of weight, my bmi was about 19 and I was maintaining my weight when I conceived him.
mydream
June 29th, 2012, 12:20 PM
I think it's fine as long as you are still doing the diet. I didn't had much to lose either ..an to e honest I was at my thinnest when I conceived ds2 with exercise and I got a boy.
nestof3
June 29th, 2012, 12:36 PM
I'm quite obese - even more so when I got pg this time. I did lose a very small amount before getting pregnant this time (maybe 10lbs but that was a small fraction compared to my weight) I was about 50lba heavier this time than with my boys. I'm pg with a girl this time.
I did lots of other swaying but not the LE or GD diet.
Pangea
June 29th, 2012, 02:16 PM
Nestof3 that seems to be what I'm seeing most, actual weight doesn't make much difference but losing even a small amount of weight seems to sway.
So I don't think my low bmi will sway, I think I'll need to actually lose weight.
atomic sagebrush
June 29th, 2012, 03:39 PM
I believe BOTH low BMI and weight loss can sway pink. if your BMI is already 18.3 you should not lose weight (or lose very little), but focus instead on eating lower protein and less fat, while keeping empty calories high.
Doulamama conceived a girl while holding steady and I think she had even gained a bit right before.
atomic sagebrush
June 29th, 2012, 03:41 PM
I'm quite obese - even more so when I got pg this time. I did lose a very small amount before getting pregnant this time (maybe 10lbs but that was a small fraction compared to my weight) I was about 50lba heavier this time than with my boys. I'm pg with a girl this time.
I did lots of other swaying but not the LE or GD diet.
BOTH losing weight AND being at a low BMI sway pink. You don't necessarily have to do both.
Being heavy can sway pink too though. Anything that reduces your fertility overall, sways pink. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-discussion/3187-big-girls-little-girls-baby-girls-boys.html
nestof3
June 29th, 2012, 04:09 PM
BOTH losing weight AND being at a low BMI sway pink. You don't necessarily have to do both.
Being heavy can sway pink too though. Anything that reduces your fertility overall, sways pink. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-discussion/3187-big-girls-little-girls-baby-girls-boys.html
The interesting part is that I got PG on the first, one-shot attempt after abstinance, hot bath, RePhresh, supps for me & DH, Sudafed, etc. I'd say I have to be fairly fertile to get PG with all that going on! But I suppose I could have just gotten lucky and got a girl being obese & fertile.
nestof3
June 29th, 2012, 04:11 PM
Nestof3 that seems to be what I'm seeing most, actual weight doesn't make much difference but losing even a small amount of weight seems to sway.
So I don't think my low bmi will sway, I think I'll need to actually lose weight.
I will say, with both my boys - although I weighed less at conception (still obese!) - DS1 was conceived at holiday time so I know I was gaining and DS2 took several months due to lame swaying so I'm sure I was gaining or staying at the same weight back then too. This is probably the only time I actually *was* losing weight, but like I said it was seriously minimal. 10lbs to me would be like 3lbs to an average person.
Pangea
June 29th, 2012, 07:11 PM
It's good to hear of someone having conceived a girl without losing weight, I'm driving myself crazy here with research, worrying that I won't be able to do it.
atomic sagebrush
June 30th, 2012, 11:40 AM
The interesting part is that I got PG on the first, one-shot attempt after abstinance, hot bath, RePhresh, supps for me & DH, Sudafed, etc. I'd say I have to be fairly fertile to get PG with all that going on! But I suppose I could have just gotten lucky and got a girl being obese & fertile.
Reduced fertility does NOT mean you will be unable to get pregnant. Reduced fertility means that you are less than optimally fertile (lower sperm count, less and/or hostile CM). It's TOTALLY possible to be less fertile than another person but still absolutely capable of getting pregnant the first time out. Fertility is not a light switch that shuts off and on where eitehr you are or you aren't, it's a continuum that we move up and down and as we move up the continuum towards optimal conditions we sway blue, as we move down the continuum we sway pink. All those things you did, reduced your fertility overall, how could they not??
It is a fact (not invented by me) that the heavier you are, the harder it is (statistically speaking, in the population as a whole) to get pregnant. Also a fact that the thinner you are, the harder it is to get pregnant.
nestof3
June 30th, 2012, 12:05 PM
I don't think you invent facts.
atomic sagebrush
June 30th, 2012, 12:23 PM
I'm sorry, I'm just explaining. I don't wish to offend anyone over weight, fertility, etc, I'm just following this tiny trail of crumbs and trying to draw conclusions we can use to sway and as of now, the fertility stuff makes the most sense of anything. I could be 100% totally wrong.
Jadis
July 1st, 2012, 07:02 PM
This is such an interesting topic to me. I've had Crohn's disease for the past 15 years. it's caused me to be chronically malnourished as many nutrients aren't absorbed by my intestinal tract. Because of this, I've been about 97lbs for as long as I remember, I'm skin and bones! Still, I've carried 2 healthy, hearty BOYS to term-gaining 40lbs each pregnancy without effort. I'm always hoping that some of that baby weight will stick with me, but it falls off about 8 weeks later and I get Chron's symptoms again. After reading here about declining maternal condition and gender ratio, I'm a bit shocked that I've only had boys! I've been in declining condition for years! Still, I'm hopeful that with some dietary changes, I can sway pink. I can't afford to lose weight but I can drop the red meat, sodium and potassium. I can up the dairy and chug back the crystal light. Atomic Sagebrush, any thoughts on this for me? I'd certainly appreciate your feedback. It should be noted that whatever nutrients I have been absorbing over the years have always been of decent quality. I've rarely consumed aspartame in my lifetime and have always eaten a pretty well rounded healthy diet.
harleyquinn
July 1st, 2012, 11:01 PM
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nini
July 2nd, 2012, 06:55 AM
I did conceive my only daughter while loosing weight, but I also conceived this baby, a BOY, while loosing weight.... I definitely gained weight while ttcing my ds2 (no clue with ds1, he was not a planned conception).
I do find that both the skinny as well as overweight women (and I mean seriously overweight not just a few pounds too much..) in my vicinity usually have girls....
atomic sagebrush
July 3rd, 2012, 01:28 PM
This is such an interesting topic to me. I've had Crohn's disease for the past 15 years. it's caused me to be chronically malnourished as many nutrients aren't absorbed by my intestinal tract. Because of this, I've been about 97lbs for as long as I remember, I'm skin and bones! Still, I've carried 2 healthy, hearty BOYS to term-gaining 40lbs each pregnancy without effort. I'm always hoping that some of that baby weight will stick with me, but it falls off about 8 weeks later and I get Chron's symptoms again. After reading here about declining maternal condition and gender ratio, I'm a bit shocked that I've only had boys! I've been in declining condition for years! Still, I'm hopeful that with some dietary changes, I can sway pink. I can't afford to lose weight but I can drop the red meat, sodium and potassium. I can up the dairy and chug back the crystal light. Atomic Sagebrush, any thoughts on this for me? I'd certainly appreciate your feedback. It should be noted that whatever nutrients I have been absorbing over the years have always been of decent quality. I've rarely consumed aspartame in my lifetime and have always eaten a pretty well rounded healthy diet.
Well, first of all keep in mind that what we in the modern world consider "declining condition", in terms of the diets and lives of virtually all other women who have ever lived, is an embarrassment of riches. Humans have a kajillion years of evolution (or were designed by God) to withstand famines that lasted months/years while infested with intestinal worms, existing on a rotten banana, a handful of crickets, and maybe a few seeds. Just by virtue of eating a well-rounded diet, taking supplements or eating fortified foods as I assume you probably do, even if you can't absorb all the nutrients therein, immediately puts you in better stead than most people who have ever lived. Evolutionarily speaking, it's NORMAL for women to weigh 97 pounds, it's not normal for them to weight 197 pounds. If humans couldn't conceive boys at 97 pounds, the entire human race would have died out a long time ago.
Secondly, if you've lived your life with your body doing a certain thing, being a certain weight, absorbing a certain amount of nutrients and that's what it's used to, then that's just not going to sway for you in the way that it would someone else. Your body doesn't interpret that as any kind of crisis, it's just what it's used to life being. In fact, for all you know you may have been in improving condition just prior to pregnancy. Maybe things were going a little bit better the months you conceived than in other months and you didn't fully realize it. Maybe your Vit. D was a little higher, maybe you'd had a bit more rest - the human body is so amazingly complex that it's really impossible to know what is really and truly going on.
Finally, it may be that Crohn's Disease is one of those illnesses that alters the gender ratio in some way. Hepatitis B and toxoplasmosis have been proven to alter the gender ratio towards blue as has PCOS, insulin-dependent diabetic mothers have more daughters, and we've observed some other trends that unfortunately no one has studied yet (moms with certain autoimmune disorders may have more sons). There's another lady on here with Crohn's who also has sons, obviously in no way a reliable sample size, but it's just something to consider.
atomic sagebrush
July 3rd, 2012, 01:58 PM
Ok, I think that diet or ANYTHING is not a means to control the gender ratio 100%. Boys will be born in FAMINES, because thats the way it works. The gender ratio becomes skewed, but thats all it is. It does not change the ratio to 0/100. There are so many other factors that play into it BESIDES diet, such as hormones and they all work together. Diet is the best way we can mimic conditions that do cause the gender ratio to slide one way or the other.
For example, when I conceived my 4th boy, I was 97 pounds down from 110 due to stress. And when I read about diet being such an important factor, I went bulls*&t. BUT looking back, the stress was very intense in nature, alot of anger and big dramatic meltdowns:drama: Also, I was eating alot of "kid friendly" foods such as chicken nuggets, mac and cheese and copious tubes of Go-gurt lol (so much for calcium overload, eh?) so protein and fat was probably quite high. So you have to look at other qualities of maternal condition besides just what the number on the scale says.
In fact, MORE boys might be born in famines as a percentage of the population, because only the women who were in decent physical condition to begin with and/or have access to food resources, were able to and perhaps more importantly, willing to, keep having kids. There's this big assumption that famines affect all people equally, but really in the real world, unfortunately there are haves and have nots and the haves tend to be better off to begin with and often are richer and can buy or have stored, whatever they need. And even back then, people had their ways of not getting pregnant. So people who don't have a lot of resources, in a time of famine, either stop having kids by design (you can see this by how much the birth rate has dropped just in the last 3 years in a world where we're all fed and provided for compared to most peopel throughout history) or because they're unable to conceive because they stop ovulating. The group that continues having kids, is preselected for being willing and able to conceive, almost certainly by virtue of having adequate resources. AKA people who are more likely to conceive boys to begin with.
Ok now stop making these interesting posts ladies!!! :) I have a lot to do today!! :p (just kidding, I love this stuff)
Jadis
July 3rd, 2012, 02:57 PM
Fascinating! You're probably right. Around the time that I conceived my sons, I think I was in relatively good health. Seeing a naturopath, taking vitamins/supplements, eating well. Sure, I'll always have this autoimmune disease, I'll always be thin, but there are peaks and valleys in my health and I certainly enjoy a better lifestyle than those you mentioned(living on a rotten banana and crickets!) I live in the Western world, abundant with food and luxury, I absolutely benefit from that. You mentioned that it's *possible* that an autoimmune disease such as mine could sway blue, like the other Chron's sufferer here who has boys, I'm praying that there's still hope for me. I'm aching for a daughter and I'm throwing myself at this sway as it's my last baby and my last shot.
HopeandDreamG
July 3rd, 2012, 03:10 PM
Hey Jadis~ Its me with the crohns that Atomic was mentioning! I don't have time to read the thread right now, but will later. we can chat ;) We still have a chance I conceived a girl as my third pregnancy lost at 14 weeks (genetic issues).
Jadis
July 3rd, 2012, 05:20 PM
Hope, thanks for the response! Look forward to chatting :) So sorry about your loss, I can't imagine.
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