Here we go, I think, please review before tonight!!

[sosapop]

I have a faint double line on my OV stick meaning it's soon, so I should start DTD through O, right??

Here is what I have done so far:

LE diet past 6-8 weeks, before that always a light diet
Have lost 8lbs. (I've always been a size 0-2, but now my zero's are very loose)
Taking aspirin, folic, SP, Vitex (just this cycle), Psyllium Husks
I need to take Sudafed, but maybe this afternoon before night time? I also have not used any rehpresh, can I do that an hour or so before??

DH:

Has been FR (because of age) since Sunday and did this morning (5 times). Taking LR and recently had him incorporate folic.

Anything else, does this look ok?

Also, I am around spa procedures including nail products regularly - hope this helps ;-)

[sosapop]

Also, I fouond an old AS post, and wondering if this applies. Since we do not have a full 7 days and he already FR this morning, should I have him do it again tonight and then try later in the night for a compressed FR? Or just try once we get that solid double line on the stick and again the day after? Here is the old post:

"Dual attempts: Some people will want to fit in more than one attempt in their fertile window and I believe this helps sway blue by increasing overall sperm numbers that survive to make it to the egg. In addition, it also raises pH. For example, one couple might O-2 and then again on O, or O-3 and O-1, or even DTD three days in a row, O-2, O-1, and again on O day - this should not diminish your husband’s sperm count and sway pink because it takes 7-10 days of frequent release to do that for most guys (don't do any more than three consecutive days, though). Others will prefer to stick with the traditional timing and have only one attempt on O as described above."

[BeadinMom]

If your DH is using LR, I wouldn't worry about the extra release. My DH and i had been doing FR and had a VERY hard time finally finishing by the time we made our true attempts.
And Rephresh should be at least 8 hours before your attempt. If you use it too close to your attempt, it will be hard to get pregnant.
Also, I'm pretty sure I remember Atomic saying that men don't need extra Folic Acid and that it can be detrimental to their health, so you might want to look into that.
Good luck!

[sosapop]

If your DH is using LR, I wouldn't worry about the extra release. My DH and i had been doing FR and had a VERY hard time finally finishing by the time we made our true attempts.
And Rephresh should be at least 8 hours before your attempt. If you use it too close to your attempt, it will be hard to get pregnant.
Also, I'm pretty sure I remember Atomic saying that men don't need extra Folic Acid and that it can be detrimental to their health, so you might want to look into that.
Good luck!

Thank you BeadinMom- Ok, I will take him off folic. I just upped his LR because he has only taken the two tablets from the bottle recommendation. Do you think though if I get home around 4, do the rephresh even if it doesn't help with tonight's attempt then maybe tomorrows? I din't necessarily have to DTD tonight because last month I had a faint line for about two days then a strong line for a couple days then 36-72 hours from the start of all this is when I must've ovulated because I usually can really feel it. I really do not have any cm right now either, but it could be a result of supplements.

[BeadinMom]

Yep, could be supplements and diet, too causing little cm.
I think you'd be fine if you use the Rephresh today...the worst that will happen is you don't get pregnant from that attempt, but you'll be set for the next one.

[nestof3]

I will tell you what we did - which resulted in a girl -
We did abstinence instead of FR, but I don't think that matters in this case. I used Rephresh every 2 days, which my last time being around 9am on 3/9. I got my first and only +OPK with FMU on 3/9. We BDed one time only at 9pm on 3/9. I have to assume I O'ed sometime on 3/10.
DH did a hot bath before we BDed. Would your DH be willing to do that, if you are open?

I'm not sure if I would try doing multiple attempts if your DH is taking LR because honestly, my DH had a 9 day abstience (and I trust this, he wanted to sway just as much as I did) and he barely could keep it up during our attempt. The LR really did a # on him.. he's never had that issue before!

Oh also - I took Sudafed at 9am on 3/9 then I took a Zyrtec about 6/7pm on 3/9 and also took 1 Zyrtec on 3/10 and 1 on 3/11.. I had VERY little CM, if any..

[sosapop]

I will tell you what we did - which resulted in a girl -
We did abstinence instead of FR, but I don't think that matters in this case. I used Rephresh every 2 days, which my last time being around 9am on 3/9. I got my first and only +OPK with FMU on 3/9. We BDed one time only at 9pm on 3/9. I have to assume I O'ed sometime on 3/10.
DH did a hot bath before we BDed. Would your DH be willing to do that, if you are open?

I'm not sure if I would try doing multiple attempts if your DH is taking LR because honestly, my DH had a 9 day abstience (and I trust this, he wanted to sway just as much as I did) and he barely could keep it up during our attempt. The LR really did a # on him.. he's never had that issue before!

Oh also - I took Sudafed at 9am on 3/9 then I took a Zyrtec about 6/7pm on 3/9 and also took 1 Zyrtec on 3/10 and 1 on 3/11.. I had VERY little CM, if any..

Thanks Nestof3! My DH usually takes hot showers, so I will definitely encourage it before our attempt. I took two more OV tests today and now there is just one solid line, no more faint line :( So I will wait for the positive one, hopefully in the next day or so. I had read on some others posts they made multiple attempts so that is what I was hoping for too just to up our chances. Now I think should we decide a couple attempts maybe tomorrow depending on what I see on the OV stick, and then maybe Saturday. IDK - confused??
My DH hasn't complained about LR, but I also haven't told him what it's for I just told him to take it. I think if I told him he would start telling him he was coming down with all sorts of ailments - lol!

[nestof3]

Lol - I didn't tell DH until he freaked out when he could barely perform. I then told him that was a side effect. Didn't want him thinking his manhood was going downhill :)
It effects all guys differently so your DH will probably have no issues if he hasn't noticed any yet!

[sosapop]

Lol - I didn't tell DH until he freaked out when he could barely perform. I then told him that was a side effect. Didn't want him thinking his manhood was going downhill :)
It effects all guys differently so your DH will probably have no issues if he hasn't noticed any yet!

Too funny! My DH watches all of these dateline, murder mystery shows where wives drug DH's - he always has something smart to say when he takes them :-)
Do you know, I keep reading where women take temps to really confirm O. But I always go by pains. Since I do not have a positve OPK, I am going to wait to DTD tonight in hopes that it comes later this weekend and DH can get at least 7 FR's in. Once I get a double OPK line, it's usually 48 hours until that real O, right?? I am clearly overly analyzing all of this right now! I wasn't really concerning myself with timing now I'm doubting myself.

[atomic sagebrush]

I know I'm late to answer this, I'm sorry.

Diet and weight loss are fab. Try not to lose much more!!! Supps look great.

I prefer you take antihistamines, not Sudafed, due to safety concerns. Zyrtec or Benadryl both work well.

RepHresh should not be used any sooner than 8-=12 hours before your attempt. An hour before is too soon and will really cut your odds of pg.

5 days of FR is not ideal but it's better than nothing!!

If you get a BFN next month I would have him drop the folic because it can raise sperm count and quality.

[atomic sagebrush]

Too funny! My DH watches all of these dateline, murder mystery shows where wives drug DH's - he always has something smart to say when he takes them :-)
Do you know, I keep reading where women take temps to really confirm O. But I always go by pains. Since I do not have a positve OPK, I am going to wait to DTD tonight in hopes that it comes later this weekend and DH can get at least 7 FR's in. Once I get a double OPK line, it's usually 48 hours until that real O, right?? I am clearly overly analyzing all of this right now! I wasn't really concerning myself with timing now I'm doubting myself.

Haha my husband always accuses me of trying to poison him. It's like, my dear, if I seriously wanted to poison you, you wouldn't be here cracking jokes about it, you'd be DEAD! (now watch him turn up dead and me end up in prison because of this post LOL)

Ovulation can take place anywhere from 8-48 hours after positive OPK. The average is 36 hours. 48 hours may be pushing your luck...the egg may already be dead by then.

[atomic sagebrush]

If your DH is using LR, I wouldn't worry about the extra release. My DH and i had been doing FR and had a VERY hard time finally finishing by the time we made our true attempts.
And Rephresh should be at least 8 hours before your attempt. If you use it too close to your attempt, it will be hard to get pregnant.
Also, I'm pretty sure I remember Atomic saying that men don't need extra Folic Acid and that it can be detrimental to their health, so you might want to look into that.
Good luck!

:agree: Thank you so much Beadin and everyone for your help this last week. So very much appreciated.

Folic acid has also been linked to increased risk of prostate cancer in men, so unless you NEED it for sperm health, it's best to give it a pass.

[sosapop]

:agree: Thank you so much Beadin and everyone for your help this last week. So very much appreciated.

Folic acid has also been linked to increased risk of prostate cancer in men, so unless you NEED it for sperm health, it's best to give it a pass.

Thanks AS! I'm responding from phone so sorry for errors. DH quit frolic was on it maybe 2-3 days, nothing significant. But Vitex must've delayed O bc still no pos opk. I used rephresh on Thursday and began taking Zyrtec. I noticed a little CM today, but not a lot. If it may be delayed would you recommend waiting for positive OPK or starting tonight? Today or this morning he did his 7th FR...

[atomic sagebrush]

If you are in a big hurry to get pg this month, I'd start now. If you have a little more time to spare, I'd wait for pos OPK and do just one attempt.

[sosapop]

If you are in a big hurry to get pg this month, I'd start now. If you have a little more time to spare, I'd wait for pos OPK and do just one attempt.

Ok, I will wait till pos OPK. MY DH apparently is having no issue FR even with LR ;( Which leads me to believe he really does need to do as much FR as possible! Thank yo SO much again!! Excited to try this month, but nervous as well! I chickened out last February, but I will this time!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Good luck!

[sosapop]

Good luck!

Sorry, one more question if you are still on computer...
Last month I had my first pos OPK on CD12 at 6 pm, then of course pos on CD13, 14, and then they started to fade on CD 15. On CD 15 felt OV pains from morning till night. Question is, does this seem fairly normal to have a few days of double lines? I check the sticks throughout the day.

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes, it is normal to have double lines for a short time OR a long time. All the sticks measure is the amount of hormone in your urine and for reasons we don't understand, sometimes your body makes a little more or a little less. It tells you nothing about when you're going to ovulate, you can have pos OPK well after ovulation.

[sosapop]

Yes, it is normal to have double lines for a short time OR a long time. All the sticks measure is the amount of hormone in your urine and for reasons we don't understand, sometimes your body makes a little more or a little less. It tells you nothing about when you're going to ovulate, you can have pos OPK well after ovulation.


I still have not gotten a positive :( I did stop Vitex and used rephresh last night just in case I was positive today, but no luck. I had a pos opk on CD 12 last month, and still waiting at CD 15. I had cm yesterday that's really why I used rephresh. I hope I haven't missed it...

[atomic sagebrush]

I don't think you have, I think the V was prob. just delaying it a bit.

[sosapop]

Thanks AS! I stopped Vitex as of Monday, but took SP yesterday and today before I could get your post :( Hoping for tomorrow, tomorrow is New Moon, so maybe it was meant to be!!

Oddly since I am watching everything with my body - I am leaking!!! I thought I had in the past, but really saw it tonight. Maybe I always do around OV and never knew it. Could this be an OV sign?

[atomic sagebrush]

yes, it can! FX!!

[sosapop]

yes, it can! FX!!

Still nothing :( I had to buy a new box of OPK's, took one this morning and negative, just took one at 5 pm and a negative. But my cm seems to be pointing in every direction of OV coming REALLY soon, or so I hope! How horrible is it that I was SO wishing I could have ovulated and DTD, so I could enjoy a meal at our movie theater this weekend!! Sadly it looks like I am ordering a flatbread with a little brie and figs instead :( Here's to hoping it comes tomorrow!

[atomic sagebrush]

Don't take OPK in the morning, take one after lunch and then if you want to do two, one after lunch and one after dinner.

KFX that it's coming very soon!

[nestof3]

If you're using First Response digital opk (smiley face) I'd use fmu for sure. I was testing 3-4 times a day and my only positive was with fmu. Later that day was - as were previous days.

PG that cycle and it's a girl.

[atomic sagebrush]

I'm sorry, UNLESS you're using First Response. I think the directions on First Response are to use FMU. The IC ones you are not supposed to use FMU.

[wannagirl21]

I'm sorry, UNLESS you're using First Response. I think the directions on First Response are to use FMU. The IC ones you are not supposed to use FMU.



Sorry this is an old thread but what does FMU stand for and what do you guy's mean by it?. Thx..

[strawberrymom]

first morning urine-first pee after waking up is more concentrated