Gentle Swaying Help

[Elements]

Wow, Okay so I'm feeling pretty confused and overwhelmed in regard to information at the moment. I'm sure if read so much that I know less then I did before hand haha.

So I have 2 Daughters already and we have decided to try for boy for our last child. We arent wanting to go too hard out with it because we are worried we will convince ourselves it has worked and then be dis-pointed if it doesn't.

We already eat lots of potatoes (potato farmers) and bananas (and have 2 girls.. go figure)
And I have decided to add lemons to my water.

I'm going to take a multivitamin but im unsure of what to look for in regards to its contents so any advice there would be so welcome.

Also is there any "DO NOT EAT" foods that I should avoid and any "Try eat as much as you can" foods.

Thanks for the help :)

This is ooooooh sooo exciting!

[TTC5]

Do not eat foods, well I say eat anything that is high in nutrients :D If it's good for you, it's good for blue is my motto ;)

Make sure you are taking folic acid! I would also add in Vit D.

What is your CM like?

[dloui128]

I'm not sure if there is any do not eat foods, I'm sure atomic will be able to answer that. As far as foods you should eat alot of I would eat as much healthy foods as you want. When eating your meals you want to eat a protein and carb together. I always tried to make it a point to eat a protein, carb, and a fruit or veggie with my meals and then my snacks in between I would eat dried fruits and nuts and everyday I drank a coconut water with my snack and a V8 with my breakfast. I took a prenatal vitamin instead of a multivitamin but I'm sure you could do either, I took alot of other supplements too. Hope this helps :)

[Blue chance2013]

I was actually coming on here to ask the same question about the 'do not eat foods'. So far it seems you can have anything in moderation as long as you have protein with it to help with blood sugar levels. Hoping someone else has a more specific answer for you.

Good luck on your sway!!

[Elements]

Do not eat foods, well I say eat anything that is high in nutrients :D If it's good for you, it's good for blue is my motto ;)

Make sure you are taking folic acid! I would also add in Vit D.

What is your CM like?


Funny you mention the CM,

I brought a jucier a few months back and have been drinking carrot and celery juice everymorning and a wee side effect of that has been a crazy amount of EW CM for 3-4 days around ovulation time!

[Elements]

I saw that V8 Juice was recommended, I would make my own and have that as my daily juice but I dont have a recipie and the onces I have found online are all different.
Does anyone have a recipie they would share?

[dloui128]

I saw that V8 Juice was recommended, I would make my own and have that as my daily juice but I dont have a recipie and the onces I have found online are all different.
Does anyone have a recipie they would share?

I don't have a recipie but you said you have a juicer, so on the back of the V8 can it says it has tomatoes, carrots, celery, beets, parsley, lettuce, watercress, and spinach and they add salt I'm sure. So I wouldn't think it was any different really if you made your own.

[skrimpy]

For a gentle sway I would recommend you just focus on diet and take a prenatal vitamin. Maybe a fish oil supplement.

I think potatoes and bananas are good because they do provide potassium, but both in and of themselves are lacking in the "high nutrient" department :) Load the potato down with butter, cheese, sour cream, bacon, chives, etc. and it becomes a filling and more nutrient-dense meal. Slather peanut butter on those bananas! I like to slice them and add a tablespoon of peanut butter and a tablespoon of real heavy cream.

You want to eat a diet that is very high in nutrients, and there aren't really foods to "avoid", though I would definitely stay away from junk foods and sugary foods because they are low in nutritional value. I personally think it's best to go with mostly homemade foods that you can put plenty of protein and veggies into (kind of a "meat and potatoes" diet with plenty of vegetables, too). Full-fat dairy can help you sway blue and boosts fertility overall. Remember you need fat to absorb all the fat-soluble nutrients in your food.

So what you want to stay away from is nutritionally-empty food... but if what you're eating has lots of nutrients, you don't really need to avoid anything. Try and eat your meals and a couple of snacks to keep plenty of protein going in as well as keep your blood sugar stable!

About to run out so trying to keep this brief, but I hope it helps!

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi and welcome Elements!!

Eat protein and carbs at every meal, 9 servings of fruit and veg a day (this sounds like a lot, but juice counts and portions are actually quite small), lots of healthy fats. Eat 3 meals a day and 2-5 snacks - you want to have something in your stomach pretty constantly to avoid low blood sugar. I also advise full fat dairy, nuts, avocado, oatmeal, healthy breakfast cereal like Wheaties or Raisin Bran, dark chocolate, tea rather than coffee, and 2 eggs a day. Oily fish like salmon or tuna, but no more than 2x a week. Coconut water is a great source of potassium for not a lot of cals.

The things I would have people avoid for blue are artificial sweeteners, cured meats with lots of nitrates/nitrites in them, shellfish, high caffeine intake. I suggest keeping dairy in your diet and strongly suggest sanity with sodium intake (no more than 4000 mg a day and not the sky high levels suggested on some of the other sites). I also strongly advise against the "rice krispies with rice milk" breakfast for blue because it's almost pure carbs and will cause your blood sugar to spike and then plummet sharply.

For a multivitamin, my fave multi is One A Day Women's - it's affordable and widely available with everything you need in a vitamin (including a perfect amount of iron, zinc, and Vit. D) I'd also suggest you take 2000 mcg folic acid a day.

I've been having people take Evening Primrose Oil from AF-O only and then fish oil all month long.

[atomic sagebrush]

I saw that V8 Juice was recommended, I would make my own and have that as my daily juice but I dont have a recipie and the onces I have found online are all different.
Does anyone have a recipie they would share?

V-8 is great, I would avoid V-8 Splash because they've started adding Splenda to it (this is new, it didn't use to be in there.)

[atomic sagebrush]

I saw that V8 Juice was recommended, I would make my own and have that as my daily juice but I dont have a recipie and the onces I have found online are all different.
Does anyone have a recipie they would share?

Also wheatgrass juice is great!! And I do have a recipe for that in the TTC Boy Best practices.

[Elements]

For a gentle sway I would recommend you just focus on diet and take a prenatal vitamin. Maybe a fish oil supplement.

I think potatoes and bananas are good because they do provide potassium, but both in and of themselves are lacking in the "high nutrient" department :) Load the potato down with butter, cheese, sour cream, bacon, chives, etc. and it becomes a filling and more nutrient-dense meal. Slather peanut butter on those bananas! I like to slice them and add a tablespoon of peanut butter and a tablespoon of real heavy cream.

You want to eat a diet that is very high in nutrients, and there aren't really foods to "avoid", though I would definitely stay away from junk foods and sugary foods because they are low in nutritional value. I personally think it's best to go with mostly homemade foods that you can put plenty of protein and veggies into (kind of a "meat and potatoes" diet with plenty of vegetables, too). Full-fat dairy can help you sway blue and boosts fertility overall. Remember you need fat to absorb all the fat-soluble nutrients in your food.

So what you want to stay away from is nutritionally-empty food... but if what you're eating has lots of nutrients, you don't really need to avoid anything. Try and eat your meals and a couple of snacks to keep plenty of protein going in as well as keep your blood sugar stable!

About to run out so trying to keep this brief, but I hope it helps!

thank you! this was very helpful!

[Elements]

I don't have a recipie but you said you have a juicer, so on the back of the V8 can it says it has tomatoes, carrots, celery, beets, parsley, lettuce, watercress, and spinach and they add salt I'm sure. So I wouldn't think it was any different really if you made your own.


Tomatoes are WAAAY expensive at the moment!!! Darn.
I have everything else already except for watercress. I have no idea what that is. Thankyou for writing all that down for me :)

[Elements]

Hi and welcome Elements!!

Eat protein and carbs at every meal, 9 servings of fruit and veg a day (this sounds like a lot, but juice counts and portions are actually quite small), lots of healthy fats. Eat 3 meals a day and 2-5 snacks - you want to have something in your stomach pretty constantly to avoid low blood sugar. I also advise full fat dairy, nuts, avocado, oatmeal, healthy breakfast cereal like Wheaties or Raisin Bran, dark chocolate, tea rather than coffee, and 2 eggs a day. Oily fish like salmon or tuna, but no more than 2x a week. Coconut water is a great source of potassium for not a lot of cals.

The things I would have people avoid for blue are artificial sweeteners, cured meats with lots of nitrates/nitrites in them, shellfish, high caffeine intake. I suggest keeping dairy in your diet and strongly suggest sanity with sodium intake (no more than 4000 mg a day and not the sky high levels suggested on some of the other sites). I also strongly advise against the "rice krispies with rice milk" breakfast for blue because it's almost pure carbs and will cause your blood sugar to spike and then plummet sharply.

For a multivitamin, my fave multi is One A Day Women's - it's affordable and widely available with everything you need in a vitamin (including a perfect amount of iron, zinc, and Vit. D) I'd also suggest you take 2000 mcg folic acid a day.

I've been having people take Evening Primrose Oil from AF-O only and then fish oil all month long.

I brought a VIT D Supp at the supermarket yesterday it has 25ug vit d3, 50ug selenium, 1mg boron and Vit e 33.6ug

Does that sound okay?

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes, that's fine as long as none of the other ingredients are in your prenatal - you don't want to get too much selenium, boron, etc. Getting 1000-1200 IU Vit. D is fine, but you don't want to overdo esp. the selenium and boron.

[Super Mom of 6 Girls]

I feel the same way! I like that you called it "gentle sway", hahaha i was calling it "lazy sway". Gentle sounds so much better! Good luck mama!

[4Giffins]

Hi and welcome Elements!!

Eat protein and carbs at every meal, 9 servings of fruit and veg a day (this sounds like a lot, but juice counts and portions are actually quite small), lots of healthy fats. Eat 3 meals a day and 2-5 snacks - you want to have something in your stomach pretty constantly to avoid low blood sugar. I also advise full fat dairy, nuts, avocado, oatmeal, healthy breakfast cereal like Wheaties or Raisin Bran, dark chocolate, tea rather than coffee, and 2 eggs a day. Oily fish like salmon or tuna, but no more than 2x a week. Coconut water is a great source of potassium for not a lot of cals.

The things I would have people avoid for blue are artificial sweeteners, cured meats with lots of nitrates/nitrites in them, shellfish, high caffeine intake. I suggest keeping dairy in your diet and strongly suggest sanity with sodium intake (no more than 4000 mg a day and not the sky high levels suggested on some of the other sites). I also strongly advise against the "rice krispies with rice milk" breakfast for blue because it's almost pure carbs and will cause your blood sugar to spike and then plummet sharply.

For a multivitamin, my fave multi is One A Day Women's - it's affordable and widely available with everything you need in a vitamin (including a perfect amount of iron, zinc, and Vit. D) I'd also suggest you take 2000 mcg folic acid a day.

I've been having people take Evening Primrose Oil from AF-O only and then fish oil all month long.

With the AF-O supps..do we still take them throughout our whole cycle in the months leading up to our sway or still just AF-O(even if we wont be attmpting to TTC that month)? What supps are included in this list? L-Arg? Thanks!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Sorry, again I didn't see this! Bump it! :)

FOR BLUE SWAYERS ONLY: you can take the AF-O supps all month long as long as you're not TTC. The only supp I tend to suggest for blue swayers that is AF-O is evening primrose oil and you need to take that WITH fish oil (which is taken all month) There are others like Fertile CM and L-arg that can be taken just AF-O, but I don't generally recommend any of those anyway. Soy is days 3-7 or 4-8 or 5-9. And tribulous is taken some really weird pattern of days, I believe it's CD 5 thru CD 14 (I dont' have my notes right in front of me) but I don't want anyone taking tribulous anyway.

Also if you are doing any of the BSD/COT/Ural drinks (which again, I don't advise) these must be stopped at O.

If you're doing red rasp. leaf tea, gently wean off after BFP

[4Giffins]

Thanks AS! Why is it that you don't advise the drinks? Is it because you don't really believe in ph being a factor? I don't plan on doing anything with baking soda..but was consider the COT drink...

[atomic sagebrush]

Firstly because I don't believe in pH, nor do I believe that foods can have that much of an effect on CM pH because the VJ has nothing to do with the digestive tract. Everything you eat and drink quickly drops to a very low pH when it hits your stomach acid.

But the real reason is because they are not safe. Baking soda drinks are extremely high in sodium and aside from health concerns high sodium may even sway pink, not blue by harming health and fertility and causing nutrients to be badly absorbed. Also can cause damage to your esophagus if it isn't mixed properly, and even when used correctly can cause something called rebound acid reflux where your stomach makes large amounts of acid to digest the baking soda. (this has happened to several people)

The COT is more complicated - COT is very easily absorbed potassium and you cannot drink it after O, you have to stop it very suddenly. Your body doesn't like having very high levels of potassium and takes steps to eliminate as much as it can, so then when you stop the COT at ovulation, your body doesn't realize this and continues eliminating a lot of potassium for awhile. This can set you up for very low potassium which is VERY dangerous and can kill.

Ural has both baking soda and COT and is bad on two levels!

It's totally possible to get a lot of potassium from diet alone which is safe, and there is a thread in the Dream Members section that tells how to do it.

[4Giffins]

Wow! Thank you for all that info! I will definitely stay away from the drinks..one less thing to worry about! :)