Don't think I can wait until the ideal girl months! ;)

[babydust]

Oooh just wanted to add that I have to take the Calc/Mag/Vit D supps. I'm low on Vit. D (have muscle twitches from it daily), and on the low side of Calc and Mag. I think I"m not able to absorb vitamins as well.

[babydust]

Shoot on more thing. Haha. I "might" try this month. I O in about a week and a half. Yikes! If I can lose some weight by then I will be tempted to try. Just had an early m/c this month :(. But I think that sways girl. All I know is that it will most definitely be hard to wait! Even though my diet is not so good now. Blah. I'm not stressed or anything. Will use antihistamines too. Hmmm

[auroara78]

babydust, so glad to see you back! I concieved my DD (due in Sept actually) in a boy month of Dec. I wouldn't worry too much about the months, as much as the sway itself. I'm glad you clarified that the supps are for your health, and if you are not able to absorb vitamins as well as most ppl, I think that may help your sway too! Good luck, I hope you get a 2nd DD or whoever is meant to join your family!

[Winngrin]

Aurora, is there a link to your sway somewhere?

[babydust]

Huge congrats aurora!! Sooo happy for you Hun. And thank you, yep I'm back, hehe. Good to see that you conceived a girl in a boy friendly month. I really don't think I can wait till march to try. I only have lime a week and a half to sway ( haven't done much except for stopping the gym for a week and trying to do diet and supps) so it would be a quick sway. Hoping to lose 3-5 lbs as I really think that will help in a hurry. Plus will start the refresh today. I might just go for it this month. M/C this month so that should raise Progesterone levels I think? Still, sept is a big option too.

[auroara78]

Winngrin, I have now put the link to my sway on my signature! So you can click it from there, thanks for asking about it!

babydust, I really do think concieving again after an early m/c is going to help sway pink. Plus if you use the rephresh it may take another cycle anyway, so I think if you are strict on some parts of it (jellies, etc) that may help overcome not being on the diet as hardcore, etc, you know? I think swaying is really a give and take, and it's important to weigh what you will / will not do, since doing everything or trying to cramp everything in imo results in BFNs or getting too stressy about it (which may increase T levels.)

[babydust]

Yeah very true. The past week I have been a bit stressed as I am thinking of cramming everything in. But will destress and stop the worry. Getting of the low dose meds doesn't help! Lol. But I'll survive. It is what it is. Staying on the diet and swaying stresses me out so maybe this quick sway is good for me.

** Yoga helps me destress sooo much ( have been doing it for months now) but I worry it will keep my muscle tone up so havent done it in a week and I FEEL the difference. Maybe it's worth it to just do it again. **

Oh and decided to just make one attempt before cut off and use 1/2 refresh after attempt. As well as using the full app refresh every 3 days and 1/2 app 8-12 hours before O. Plus the benedril at night ( will make me sleep so no stress there, haha) So yeah, might not even get pregnant this month.

My biggest thing now is to totally destress. Yoga...here I come! :)))

[babydust]

Hey again :). Not to be a pain but do any of the mods know how I can move this thread to one of the private swaying sections? Just realized that this is a public area of the site. Oops and thanks in advance :)

[mis2ninos]

Nice to see you again babydust. I plan on ttc in the more boy than girl friendly month of Dec. I conceived my last boy in August so I don't put too much confidence in the months :) if u feel good about your attempt otherwise I say go for it. Best of luck to you!

[mis2ninos]

Maybe a good massage instead of the yoga?

[Mum23boys]

Good luck chick - do what feels right for you. x

[babydust]

Thanks girls! Great to be back :) Yeah I think the yoga will have to go. Especially since I really wanna lose some tone/muscle I have gained and only will end up with 3 weeks off from the gym by the time I ovulate. Small
Muscles so 3 weeks should be ok but yeah massages will
Do the trick. Great idea! Think we'll do a conservative attempt
In august as everything is falling into place

[babydust]

Oh and already ( two days on diet and a week of the gym) already losing some
Weight. I bet some of it is muscle loss :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Good luck! Make sure you're getting enough potassium. 2500-3500 mg a day and that may help your muscle twitches.

Question - are the twitches everywhere or just localized to one or two muscle groups (like, just your upper arms or just your thighs?)

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh yeah and you prob. know this already but I got two boys in the girl peak and then my girl was in the boy peak. I do think it can help, but I certianly wouldn't change my sway around because of it.

[auroara78]

Oh yeah and you prob. know this already but I got two boys in the girl peak and then my girl was in the boy peak. I do think it can help, but I certianly wouldn't change my sway around because of it.
Could not agree more! My DS2 was made in early August, which is supposedly a girl peak month!

[atomic sagebrush]

Good luck! Make sure you're getting enough potassium. 2500-3500 mg a day and that may help your muscle twitches.

Question - are the twitches everywhere or just localized to one or two muscle groups (like, just your upper arms or just your thighs?)

Bumping this up for Babydust - I want to make sure you've seen it - kind of important if you're having twitches that we get to the bottom of the reason why. Twitches are usually harmless but can mean bad things too, rarely, so I want to make sure you're ok.

[mariposa]

HI babydust! I so sorry for your loss. I remembered you from IG, and so happy to read you are TTC again!
Can I ask you if you sway before the miscarriage? I tried to find it here, but couldn´t!! just find your succesful first sway!! :DD:
I´m planning to sway next year and still have not clear what to do respect vitex, saw palmetto, and abstinence/FR.
I see you didn´t take vitex neither saw palmetto on your first sway, (don´t know if you took this before your miscarriage) and neither this time you are taking. What´s your opinion about vitex and SP? I would be very grateful to know your opinion and also respect abstinence. This is probably my bigger doubt, beacuse I think this is key on a sway, and more if just want to do one attemp with short cut off.
In theory the purpose of FR and abstinence is the same, isnt it?the lowest count of spermies. But at the end, I think a long abstinence crates an "enviroment of infertility" due to the dead spermies because of the abstinence, that think could be a better chance to sway girl, to convince the egg that the sperm quality is poor and chose a female one (overmore the diet, rephresh and antihistaminics). Of course I´m afraid about the birth defaults, but my DH will be 34 and has a healthy lifestyle and is not surrounded by chemicals or insane things, except the normal ones in the day by day...
You´ll do abstinence again as I read, so I imagine you also think this is key, do you think may I try abstinence?
Sorry my english, I hope you can understand it :wink:
Thanks in advance and good luck!!

[babydust]

Thanks so much for the advice and support! :)

AS - yeah I agree, not gonna wait for the perfect sway season but it does make me feel worlds better knowing for sure that you agree too! :). And a million thank you's! You're such a sweetheart. I sent you a pm about the issue's I"m having with the twitching.

Mariposa- hi! Ok so last sway was planning frequent ( I thought a few times meant frequent bd now I realize that's
Not enough) but O'ed early! So was happy it worked out. I think it helped my sway a lot. Not sure about vitex and sp. I was and still am nervous about taking too Many things cause of the possible side effects. I'm very very sensitive to supps, meds, ect. So I skipped it. Sorry I can't shed more light on that but with everything else u will be doing I don't think you will need it. And yes abstinence is great. I also think you will be fine, dh is only 34 and healthy. A one time
Cut off is great. I no longer feel timing sways but it doesn't hurt either. I think it's a great plan!!

Im Actually o'ing today!! We dtd earlier today ( very very shallow bd). Took benedil
Night before. Baby aspirin this morning. And refresh like 30 min to 1 hour before dtd. Just 1/2 app. No lube needed. Did finger replens a few times after we dtd. Did jump and dump and SEM 30 min after so I bey it did nothing. Haha. Lost about 3-4 lbs this week. Mostly girl diet I'm general but VERY strict this week. Late breakfast or no breakfast. Very small amount of food. Low dose calc, mag, vit d. None the past few days. Been bad with the folic acid. Don't always remember. But my levels are good I know. Took it today. Let's see ok so tonight will dtd again. Take 1/2 benedril before and 1/2 after. Some replens after and possible j and d. Should O tomorrow so only s one time
Cut off. Oh and dh released shortly before our actual attempt today. So considered compressed frequent bd. Oh and also have been doing full application of refresh every 3 days. Today I did it ever two days as my attempt turned out to be today.

(sorry for the typo's...on my cell)

My plan is a bit different this time around but wanted to share it in Case it helps u!!! :). Gl

[babydust]

Sorry one more thing..

AS - so I got my + opk today but worried about not enough potassium. What can I eat that won't hurt my sway? I'm Soo close ovulation and my attempt was today, again tonight. All I ate today was 1/2 bagel with veggie cream cheese and some iced coffee with a drop of low fat skim milk, water with CL. All around 11:45 am. Now just ate some pasts with Unsalted butter, a squeeze of lemon, a dash of salt, some parm
Cheese and some peppers in it. Also a tiny bit of matzah ( only kind I have is salted) and a drop of cheese. In general been eating big salads, bagels, fruit, beans occasionally. I think I should be ok just don't wanna get too low as I know that's dangerous.

*hmmm, not sure...should I take one of my Calc/Mag/Vit D pills today? It helps with the twitching, but I'm so close to my attempt now.

Thanks again! :)

[babydust]

and for the previous poster...also thought about using a tiny bit of spermicide a few hours before my attempt. Not sure I will do it, but it's an option I was considering as well...

[atomic sagebrush]

Sorry one more thing..

AS - so I got my + opk today but worried about not enough potassium. What can I eat that won't hurt my sway? I'm Soo close ovulation and my attempt was today, again tonight. All I ate today was 1/2 bagel with veggie cream cheese and some iced coffee with a drop of low fat skim milk, water with CL. All around 11:45 am. Now just ate some pasts with Unsalted butter, a squeeze of lemon, a dash of salt, some parm
Cheese and some peppers in it. Also a tiny bit of matzah ( only kind I have is salted) and a drop of cheese. In general been eating big salads, bagels, fruit, beans occasionally. I think I should be ok just don't wanna get too low as I know that's dangerous.

*hmmm, not sure...should I take one of my Calc/Mag/Vit D pills today? It helps with the twitching, but I'm so close to my attempt now.

Thanks again! :)

Yes, def. take cal/mag/vit. D - skipping one day is not going to do anything for your sway (your body stores cal/mag/Vit. D). For potassium, I'd eat a banana, a potato, an avocado, etc. Coconut water is a great source as is tomato juice. Campbell's vegetarian veg. soup has quite a bit too. i know some of these are considered "boy foods" but there are no magic foods - if you're low in potassium, you NEED potassium regardless of what some diet book written 40 years ago claims. Potassium is NOT stored well by your body and you need it every day.

[babydust]

excellent, thanks again!

[mariposa]

Hi babydust!
I have a question about shallow penetration (I posted you on IG but probably haven´t seen it)
When you say shallow penetrarion and that you DH almost pull out outside (on your first sway i remember read it), you mean that the amount of semen was a little inside you and the rest outside?
As I told you I want to do a 14 days of abstinence and I´m afraid beacuse of it, when my DH release there will be a big amount of semen in my VJ (sorry TMI :worry: ) so, I would love to have an advice about it, and if is needed my DH to releases just a bit inside and the rest outside, to not make my ph levels with too much semen inside. Or maybe he can releases all inside and make a J&D 5 minutes after it..... What about 14 days of abstinence , release outside, and DTD with a second or third release a few hours later? just ONE attemp, but maybe I´ll have the benefits of abstinence and compressed frequent release...i´m going crazy with it LOL...
....any advice?

Thanks a lot!!! good luck on your sway!!! hope you see a BFP in few days!!!!:flowerz:

[babydust]

Thanks hun!!

Ok so for shallow penetration, for my sway with my DD, Dh pulled out a bit when he finished...not all the way out but enough. Was easy to do this when he as on top as he can control it. Hope that helps!

[atomic sagebrush]

Mariposa, if you do an abstain, I think you should USE that batch! Don't waste it! Even if a lot of semen comes out, a lot of the sperm in there will be bad and not able to fertilize an egg. ABstinence does sway, and I hate to see you waste an abstain batch. Just use some RepHresh and it will take care of pH.

I think you're planning on doing too much to sway and you probably won't get pregnant doing all those things.

[babydust]

I agree, I think you should try for a one time attempt with abstinance before hand the day you get your + opk (or the day before if you can figure it out without it stressing you out). Dtd with shallow penetration. If you are on diet then I wouldn't do J and D at all. I would lay flat for 5 min then do SEM technique. By 5 min after you dtd the sperm are already going on their merry way. So go to the bathroom and stop the flow of the urine every few seconds and wipe each time. This will get rid of some of the extra semen which acts like ewcm and raises pH. I would do a 1/2 app of rephresh 12 hours before bd and even try an antihistamine the first month or two.

GL!

[ThreeMenAndALAdy]

Just wondering how important using Rephresh is? I couldn't get the nerve up to use it...lol. I just took Zyrtec. I drank CL to try and lower my ph. Does ph matter? I though it was almost as non important as timing. Am I wrong?

[ThreeMenAndALAdy]

Does the le diet lower ph? And we didn't do shallow...yikes.

[NCBeachyGrl]

The diet dries up CM which is what you want! pH doesn't matter: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-discussion-ttc-boy-girl-home-swaying-info/11684-ph-pickle.html.

Also position doesn't really matter either...at least in my opinion: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-discussion-ttc-boy-girl-home-swaying-info/12234-question-girl-moms.html

[mariposa]

Thanks atomic and babydust for your answers...yeah...I´m planning too much things at the same time and probably won´t get pregnant... I guess my subconscious I have fear about negative effects of abstinence, but in fact, nothing or nobody can guarantee me that will be a girl, and most important, will be healthy. Of course, nobody could guarantee it to me with frequent release neither... Altough if I wouldn´t have find this site probably didn´t know about the relation between abstinence and Birth defects and actually an abstinence period is something that could naturally happens in a certain moment (maybe not 14 days but who knows...) and get pregnant after an abstinence without knowing anything about all this....it´s just the fact of "knowing" that there´s danger that is making me going crazy, beacause I have been doing some statistics and the abstinence succes is very important... well, don´t want you to get bored with my thinkings ... it´s just I´m a obssesive person and in fact there still many months until TTC (diet on january and TTC on may).... In any case, i REALLY apreciate all the support and info around here. :hugs: I´m very glad to have found this site.....i wish it would be in spanish!! :bigsmile:

[atomic sagebrush]

Just wondering how important using Rephresh is? I couldn't get the nerve up to use it...lol. I just took Zyrtec. I drank CL to try and lower my ph. Does ph matter? I though it was almost as non important as timing. Am I wrong?

3men, we really don't KNOW how important any of these things are. I do not believe pH to be at all important http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-discussion-ttc-boy-girl-home-swaying-info/11684-ph-pickle.html

I didn't use RepHresh or Zyrtec and a lot of people have had to give up RepHresh all together just to get pg and still got girls. Remember, RepHresh wasn't even invented until a few years ago and people have been having girls for hundreds of thousands of years!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Does the le diet lower ph? And we didn't do shallow...yikes.

Yes, LE Diet lowers pH by drying up CM. Anything that dries up CM lowers pH. pH probably doesn't even MATTER, it's the presence or absence of CM that is most likely swaying. NO sperm "like" low pH, low pH kills them.

I don't think shallow makes much diff. at all when you're swaying, and drastically lowers your odds of conception.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks atomic and babydust for your answers...yeah...I´m planning too much things at the same time and probably won´t get pregnant... I guess my subconscious I have fear about negative effects of abstinence, but in fact, nothing or nobody can guarantee me that will be a girl, and most important, will be healthy. Of course, nobody could guarantee it to me with frequent release neither... Altough if I wouldn´t have find this site probably didn´t know about the relation between abstinence and Birth defects and actually an abstinence period is something that could naturally happens in a certain moment (maybe not 14 days but who knows...) and get pregnant after an abstinence without knowing anything about all this....it´s just the fact of "knowing" that there´s danger that is making me going crazy, beacause I have been doing some statistics and the abstinence succes is very important... well, don´t want you to get bored with my thinkings ... it´s just I´m a obssesive person and in fact there still many months until TTC (diet on january and TTC on may).... In any case, i REALLY apreciate all the support and info around here. :hugs: I´m very glad to have found this site.....i wish it would be in spanish!! :bigsmile:

Most married couples DTD at least once a week and usually 2-3, so while I agree that there are some babies conceived with 14 day abstinence, I don't think that there are many. We've had too many people who couldn't get pregnant while doing long abstain - even young couples have had to switch to short abstains or FR to conceive.

People do have some good results with abstain, but I think that may be in part because people who do abstain are often very dedicated to swaying in other ways. So they may already be doing a lot of things to sway and the abstain is just one more thing. It can make it look like abstain is more successful than it really is. We honestly don't know how effective any of these things are because no one has done a good study.

I'm glad you like the site and I wish we didn't have to worry about the language barrier!! :)

[mariposa]

thank you so much, atomic!! So, if you don´t think abstinence makes a better chance respect frequent release,but the are the other sway technics togheter which work.... do you recomend me to start first month trying with abstinence and change to compressed frequent release the next months if don´t get pregnant or would you start trying with compressed frequent release ? (my case is me 32, DH 34, healthy life both, plan to take vitex, SP, aspirin, zyrtec+benadryl,and LE diet (3 months before TTC). For DH haven´t decide because he says when he was a child he had a blood reaction to aspirin... now in adult life he has taken sometimes and nothing happened but i´m afraid to give him, and cranberry is sooo antioxidant that maybe will convert his "infertile 14 abstinence batch" in a "very healthy 14 days abstinence batch" :oops: )

WOW, tomorrow is your due date, I see!!! good luck! you will be over the moon waiting her :DD:, a big huge!! :happy:

[atomic sagebrush]

I usually have people start with abstain for 1-2 months as long as they're ok with it. That way, you can know that you tried everything, and if you have to stop doing abstain and switch to FR you will know that you tried. It's really your choice to make. I think it would be safe at 34.

DH can safely take cranberry anyway - it's only for ladies that I prefer aspirin because men can take it throughout the cycle and do not have to stop and start at ovulation. It's the starting and stopping the cranberry that is concerning to me, not the cranberry itself. Aspirin can be safely taken into early pregnancy, so it's better than cranberry for that reason.

Today is the big day but I don't think there is a baby on the horizon today! maybe tomorrow!

[NCBeachyGrl]

Good luck Atomic! Make that baby come today!!!

In terms of girl months, how does July make out...I guess late July?

[atomic sagebrush]

Good luck Atomic! Make that baby come today!!!

In terms of girl months, how does July make out...I guess late July?

As far as we know, July is totally neutral.

[NCBeachyGrl]

Awesome!!!!! Thanks so much! Hopefully my swaying did the trick. Not sure if I can make it team green. I want to know now!!!!

[mariposa]

Thank you so much!!! I´try abstinence 2 months or so :happy:
I wish you a "short hour" (is that we say in Spain to wish a quick and good labour) I hope you can show us a picture of her when you are ok! you deserved this baby girl so much ....I think is the gratefulness for your researches and your help everyone here day by day !!! :flowerz:

[Hobbermittens]

In terms of girl months, how does July make out...I guess late July?
I concieved 2 girls in July (not twins).

[NCBeachyGrl]

I concieved 2 girls in July (not twins).

THANK YOU!!!!!