Another Testosterone Question

[sweetpea]

I know I've asked a few testosterone questions before in the past, but this is part of the girl sway that still really confuses me. The one thing that's really bothering me is that I still seem -- personality wise -- to have a lot of testosterone, even despite being on the LE Diet for so long, losing a ton of weight, and taking Saw Palmetto. I seem to have a really short fuse, get angry and yell a lot with my DH and with my kids, and I'm always worked up over something. I'm not sure why.

Actually, it just occurred to me as I'm typing this that I *did* actually seem a lot calmer when I began the LE diet, but ever since adding SP, which is supposed to lower T levels, I seem to have gotten really irritable/cranky/moody/angry. Is it possible that the SP is making me this way for some reason?

Anyway...I just don't know what to do to relax and just CALM DOWN. I'm worried that my anxious, angry self is going to make me conceive a boy, regardless of what my weight loss or diet looks like.

Thoughts?

[NCBeachyGrl]

Are you taking Vitex? Vitex made me a bitch from hell the first 2 months I took it. The 3rd month, I seemed to have calmed down some. DH said he couldn't take me anymore!! Maybe that is causing your moodiness?

[sweetpea]

Hmmm, that's interesting, NC. I don't think it's the Vitex in my case though, since I've been taking it nonstop since about February.

[allen001]

Hmmm, that's interesting, NC. I don't think it's the Vitex in my case though, since I've been taking it nonstop since about February.

Did u consult any doctor for such problem tell me.

[Mum23boys]

Maybe its your blood sugar levels hun - when mine drop i get cranky and moody - my dh says " boy you must be hungry" or "did we forget to eat today" I find when i eata nd my sugar levels are high again i feel fine which is why ive always been a grazer its the only way i can keep myself from being cranky all day long.

[auroara78]

think it could be a blood sugar thing too...I was a complete mess when I was on IG diet and "banned" potassium rich foods, it made me jittery and very easily agaited. I put back a banana in my diet and still concieved a girl.

I know Atomic says that SP is better than Pepp Tea, but when I was drinking the 2-3 cups of Pepp Tea from AF-O I really did feel calm, and as a matter of fact, my DH started drinking it too before we concieved (I dont think it's recommended for men though!)

[sweetpea]

Oh, I didn't think of that -I suppose it could be a blood sugar thing. But I've been on the diet for a long time now, and it's only been recently (like, within the last month) that I've been feeling/acting this way. It makes sense that it would be something else, but I don't know what? The most recent change I've made was adding SP, but it's crazy to think it would have the opposite effect on me. Hmmm, I'm kind of stumped.

Either way though, I'm worried this is going to ruin my sway bc I'm constantly getting all worked up and yelling all the time. :( I also can't stand the way I've been so moody and thus taking it out on my hubby and the kids. I feel really bad. :(

[atomic sagebrush]

I think the blood sugar and vitex ideas both have a lot of merit. The only way to really KNOW if SP is causing/contributing to this is to take a month off and see what happens. You can try switching from SP to pep tea and seeing if that makes a difference.

I want to point out that this can have nothing whatsoever to do with testosterone. We get PMS because of fluctuations in estrogen and progesterone, not testosterone. So it may just be that your other hormones are in flux and that's contributing to the moodiness, and the testosterone really is dropping thanks to the SP.

[sweetpea]

Thanks so much for your reply, Atomic! Everything you said makes a lot of sense, and actually, I did just start my period so I suppose the craziness could be related to the other hormones, like you said. It just seemed that it started a bit early for PMS type moodiness, so that's why I was confused. Hormones are such a tricky thing!

Also, I've been wondering if a feeling of despair/defeat/sadness has anything to do with the possibility that my testosterone may be dropping? I only ask because that's how I've been feeling lately - kind of hopeless that I'll ever conceive a girl, almost a bit sad/depressed, whereas months ago I was all like, "Yeah! I can DO this! How can I get anything BUT a girl if I sway?" - LOL, I was way over-confident (or maybe just excited that I found this site! ;) ). Anyway, do you think these moods/feelings have anything to do with lowered T levels, or am I just depressed? LOL

[Ktiguewantspink]

Sweetpea, I am going through the same thing right now and I wonder if it's because I'm a little sad about the fact that I might never get a girl! I was at first so excited and thought this is it but than I remember not everyone is going to get what they swayed for and I think it will be me that is the unlucky one. Than I get irritated because I feel ashamed for not being happy with my two awesome boys! It must be hormones or something because I just started af and am just depressed right now. I guess the fact that we can't eat isn't helping matters either! I guess hold steady and try and stay positive! Good luck!

[NCBeachyGrl]

Sweetpea, I am going through the same thing right now and I wonder if it's because I'm a little sad about the fact that I might never get a girl! I was at first so excited and thought this is it but than I remember not everyone is going to get what they swayed for and I think it will be me that is the unlucky one. Than I get irritated because I feel ashamed for not being happy with my two awesome boys! It must be hormones or something because I just started af and am just depressed right now. I guess the fact that we can't eat isn't helping matters either! I guess hold steady and try and stay positive! Good luck!

I think this is what EVERY swayer feels like!!! One day I am happy and hopeful, the next I am down in the dumps! Just try to stay positive and remember that it is just a coin flip and whatever coin the lady flips next to you, will not impact your toss!! I will try to tell myself this too!

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks so much for your reply, Atomic! Everything you said makes a lot of sense, and actually, I did just start my period so I suppose the craziness could be related to the other hormones, like you said. It just seemed that it started a bit early for PMS type moodiness, so that's why I was confused. Hormones are such a tricky thing!

Also, I've been wondering if a feeling of despair/defeat/sadness has anything to do with the possibility that my testosterone may be dropping? I only ask because that's how I've been feeling lately - kind of hopeless that I'll ever conceive a girl, almost a bit sad/depressed, whereas months ago I was all like, "Yeah! I can DO this! How can I get anything BUT a girl if I sway?" - LOL, I was way over-confident (or maybe just excited that I found this site! ;) ). Anyway, do you think these moods/feelings have anything to do with lowered T levels, or am I just depressed? LOL

When we sway, we kinda put E and P into flux regardless of where we are in our cycle, so we can have PMS-like symptoms that don't seem to correlate to our normal cycles (which I believe to be why a lot of ladies have breast pain that does not seem to correlate with cycle.)

I do think your moodiness/feelings of defeat could absolutely have to do with lower T OR altered E and P levels. No doubt about it. Think of PPD and menopause - both are hormonal changes and both can drastically alter mood and even change behavior and thought patterns themselves. I have now seen several people who started off swaying very upbeat and confident and get worn down and defeated and even give up the idea all together. (JJ was going to give up TTC all together if she didn't get pregnant the month she did...result - GIRL)

PS - don't get too hung up on the idea of "testosterone" per se. We really don't KNOW that it is testosterone. It's just a theory, based on personality tests and NOT blood tests and is largely speculation. It may be that those fluctuating levels of E and P are what are really swaying, or some other thing entirely.

[sweetpea]

Thanks ladies, for making me feel not alone! And thanks Atomic, for explaining all of that in greater detail! The whole hormone thing really is tricky and confusing - I guess you just have to keep doing what you know will help sway pink, and trust that the hormonal changes are what needs to happen to help tip the scales a bit! :agree: I definitely don't feel like giving up yet, as I haven't even started swaying (next cycle!), but I do feel a bit all over the place emotionally, and even a bit panicky/scared that my sway won't work. Not sure where all this is coming from, as I've been pretty steady in my emotions for the last few months, but like you described above, it could all be hormonal changes.

Ah, well. I have a new plan for dealing with my T worries - in a couple of weeks, I'm going to go completely MIA for my sway, put away the computer, and take up some leisurely, recreational reading. Try and put my mind off of swaying altogether, and just go through the motions. If you don't see me around during my attempt month, that's why! ;)