Gender Swaying Diet -- Is there a point besides PH?

[Inky]

With the diet, is there a reason the diet is needed other than changing PH? What is you have a perfect PH for the gender you are aiming for already?

We are TTC a girl. My CM PH is almost always 4.5 for the last 2 months. It does get to about 6 right before O (when I have EWCM) but I don't DTD then. We aim for O+12. Plus now that I'm on clomid even my "fertile" days before O I still have PH of 4.5.

My husband on the other hand has a PH of NINE. And we tried the diet and supplements with him (and will continue to do so) BUT his PH is still nine, so the diet doesn't seem to do anything for him. Unless there is a point to the diet ASIDE from PH?

I am a little worried because I tried the diet and I started getting chest pains, so I stopped the diet and the pain went away. Could have been a coincidence. Doctor told me not to go on anymore crash diets. (Of course I didn't feel comfortable telling her why I was on the diet). (At first I thought it was the Clomid, but it went away when I started eating normal again.)

But from what I heard diet is the most important sway factor. Then is it hopeless for me, or will I be okay since my PH is already low?

PS to anyone on the diet: don't let my experience put you off; I have other medical problems and the diet I think was affecting that, and a normal healthy person without my health problems won't have that problem. I know a LOT of people who use the girl diet without any problems at all.

[Butterfly Spirit]

You can sway pink with Vitex, RepHresh, and or SYLK.
I did not diet..and I took extra calcium,mag, and B50 complex combined with - ion stuff.
I'm not the normal pink sway though.
Feel free to go to my profile..previous threads...and my Vitex journeys.
I conceived my very first cycle of vitex but lost my baby due to dangerously low thyroid levels that i was unaware of.

Since your doc says to forego dieting..perhaps for health reasons you should.

[Inky]

I am so sorry for your loss :( Glad to hear of someone else who swayed without the diet. So it's all about PH, right? The diet doesn't serve a role other than that? I use RepHresh afterward to bring my PH back down as needed because my husband's sample brings my PH up, but before it's always 4.5. (We also do TBM so we can add lime juice to his sample to lower PH first)

[nuthinbutpink]

It's not all about pH, no. Your body's pH cannot vary or you will die. Where your calories come from, your lifestyle leading up to your sway, etc can all affect the outcome. If you check out some of the swaying essays, it might provide some guidance. If it was simply pH, Shettles would have nailed this whole GS thing with the old school douche!

[nuthinbutpink]

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-discussion-ttc-boy-girl-home-swaying-info/11684-ph-pickle.html

[BeadinMom]

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-girl/3316-introducing-low-everything-diet-ttc-pink.html


This essay explains the Trivers Willard theory on diet...it's not about ph.

[hopingforsaskia]

If I were you, I'd stick to a low-er cal diet, reduce or eliminate red meat, eat three small carby meals a day (but don't snack) ie: salad with egg whites or crackers and low fat cheese, small bowl of semolina porridge for breakfast, big bowl of veg and if you need some protein maybe grilled fish etc. If you reduce your quantities and eat light foods and lose a few kgs, you might have the same sort of luck with diet, because the clomid will sway, weightloss will sway, and a change in eating habits will sway. That's what I would do if it were me (although I don't know what your health issues are, so forgive me if I'm way off the mark!) :)

I'm sure atomic would be happy to help you work out your diet. She's the one to ask really.... Good luck xx

[Inky]

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-girl/3316-introducing-low-everything-diet-ttc-pink.html


This essay explains the Trivers Willard theory on diet...it's not about ph.

I'd love to read this, but I'm new here:

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Could you please tell me what it says? I am glad there is actually information that explains what the diet is about. I always assumed it was PH.

[Inky]

If I were you, I'd stick to a low-er cal diet, reduce or eliminate red meat, eat three small carby meals a day (but don't snack) ie: salad with egg whites or crackers and low fat cheese, small bowl of semolina porridge for breakfast, big bowl of veg and if you need some protein maybe grilled fish etc. If you reduce your quantities and eat light foods and lose a few kgs, you might have the same sort of luck with diet, because the clomid will sway, weightloss will sway, and a change in eating habits will sway. That's what I would do if it were me (although I don't know what your health issues are, so forgive me if I'm way off the mark!) :)

I'm sure atomic would be happy to help you work out your diet. She's the one to ask really.... Good luck xx

If there is a way I can do it without it hurting my health issues more, I will try again.

Here is what I was doing before:
Skipping breakfast.
Yogurt for lunch around 12.
Pasta later with salt free butter and a little Parmesan cheese around 4.
Chicken around dinner time (6 or so)
I was also drinking 3 glasses of milk a day and the rest of the time if I was thirsty I drank crystal light or propel fitness water.

the diet didn't bother me because I don't each much anyway. I've skipped breakfast all my life. I AMthe heaviest I've been recently though. (I'm 5'4, 129 lbs, which is 19lbs over my usual weight, and this relates to recent medical problems too,and my doctor says it's actually from not eating ENOUGH calories.I do eat less now than I used to, but I haven't had an appetite, so I have to be reminded to eat as it is. Go figure I eat less and weigh more.

The weight loss fact is interesting though! I conceived both my boys at my lowest weight (My 1st son I conceived at 105lbs my second son I conceived at 103.) My daughter I conceived while breastfeeding, 3 months after I had my son, so I think I was about 115 when I conceived her.

I'd like to lose some weight before getting pregnant anyway, so if I can get the diet to work without getting chest pains again, I will try it.

[Inky]

Also, I've been lurking here for a while LOL. I would LOVE feedback from atomic. She obviously knows her stuff. :)

[hopingforsaskia]

You may need to pay for a membership Inky! :)

[Inky]

Oh, OK. They should really give the option on that page! Is there any way I can confirm that paying membership will get me access? I once paid for membership on a site and ended up with access to nothing useful LOL Don't want to repeat the mistake by not understanding what I'm paying for this time :)

[Inky]

I looked it up, and I think I get it now :) Okay, so, I need to find a way to make this diet work I guess. Thanks for all the help!

[BeadinMom]

I would definitely suggest getting the dream membership....it is worth every penny!!

[Inky]

I probably will either way. I'm usually end up donating to sites I use even if I DOn'T get any added benefits out of it ;)

[BeadinMom]

Well this isn't one of those....
You will DEFINITELY get benefits out of membership. I forgot that Atomic had put the diet in the membership section. There's a whole separate section on EVERYTHING for Dream Members.
And you don't have to worry about it not being maintained, this site is definitely different from others.

[Inky]

Great! Well, I got my membership now! Not 100% sure what to with it just yet, but I'm sure it will come in handy :)

[BeadinMom]

Well good for you! :)
I would suggest posting any questions you have in the Dream Member Swaying section from now on. I'm pretty sure Atomic answers those questions first.

Hoping you get your plan straight and everything comes together soon!! Lots of really wonderful ladies here to help walk you through it!! :)

[Inky]

Thanks! I will try that with my future questions :)

[bythestream]

If you are on clomid I would skip too much other sway techniques. You need to get pregnant as quickly as possible because you can't be on it too long. I would suggest reducing your fat and protein then dtd right through ovulation. Clomid already sway pink.

[bythestream]

Here is atomics essay on swaying with clomid http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-discussion-ttc-boy-girl-home-swaying-info/7997-swaying-clomid-swaying-under-special-circumstances-part-2-a-7.html

[Inky]

This is good to know! Thank you. My doc said I can do 3 months clomid and this was month 1, and I feel a little like I "wasted" this month.

[bythestream]

Don't stress if you dtd you still have a chance

[Inky]

Well, I probably killed ALL the sperm because I went overkill (and also wasted a lot of sperm). Hopefully you are right and I still have a chance :)

(and here I was worrying that if I did get pregnant, it'd be a boy and that I messed my sway up by not being strict enough. HA. Irony.)

[Mum23boys]

That's the thing with clomid u need to let go of sooooo many sway tactics that you have stuck in your head that it becomes so hard but atomic said she would pick clomid and diet over all the other sway tactics so your in a good place just try ANC relax now :-)

[Inky]

Thanks hon :) That is encouraging. I didn't know about clomid. Like I knew it swayed pink, but I didn't know that meant not to do my usual sway tactics. So for the next two months it's like I have to learn a new set of rules. Well, easier rules at least :) I feel like this wasn't my month but I guess the good news is the clomid made me O earlier, so hopefully my LP won't be borderline or too short this time,and it felt like a strong O. Just hope that happens next month (sort of mentally writing this month off, though I wouldn't mind a happy surprise lol)