View Full Version : NECESITO INFORMACION PARA PDG EN **** (PRAGA) o GENESIS (CHIPRE)
miki9
October 23rd, 2012, 10:33 AM
Alguien en el foro me puede ayudar con el tema PDG para ir a **** (PRAGA) o GENESIS (CHIPRE).
Muchas gracias.
Lotte
October 23rd, 2012, 04:44 PM
Yo he sido en Chipre (2x), pero hablo unas palabras espanol :-(.
Qual informacion tu buscas ?
lisvna
October 23rd, 2012, 04:58 PM
Heeee Lotte! Ik wist niet dat je Spaans sprak! Toppie want ik kon haar de dingen die in **** gebeurd zijn met longing niet goed uitleggen en ook niet uitleggen over Savvas.... Ik hoor wel van je als je info nodig hebt en je het misschien zelf niet weet!
Lotte
October 23rd, 2012, 05:11 PM
Tuuk Lisvna, Spaans, Russisch, Nigeriaans, u vraagt en ik spreek het NIET :bigsmile:
Er staat dat ik 2x op Cyprus ben geweest, maar dat ik maar enkele woordjes Spaans spreek en wat voor informatie ze zoekt.
Als ik het tenminste een beetje goed heb opgeschreven, nouja, ik hoop dat ze het begrijpt en dan gaan we het gewoon met handen & voeten proberen uit te leggen.
nuthinbutpink
October 23rd, 2012, 05:16 PM
**** is no good.
lisvna
October 23rd, 2012, 05:36 PM
BNP she just understand a little bit English. So maybe you know someone who speaks Spanish? She think she need donor eggs because Daphne from ingender told her she probably have better chances with DE. Miki never cycled and never did pre test so she wants to know the best opportunities for her in Europe.
nuthinbutpink
October 23rd, 2012, 09:50 PM
I read the other post. I don't think anyone should go to **** because they do not offer gender selection. It is illegal there.
You need pretesting. Consults are free with Dr Potter for Dream Members via Skype. Any doctor near her can do the bloodwork.
At 40, IVF will be difficult. Google translate can help decipher this!
Leí el otro post. Yo no creo que nadie debe ir a ****, ya que no ofrecen la selección de género. Es ilegal allí. Usted necesita pruebas preliminares. Consultas son gratis con el Dr. Potter para los miembros de Translation
a través de Skype. Cualquier médico cerca de ella puede hacer el análisis de sangre. En 40, la FIV será difícil.
miki9
October 24th, 2012, 05:11 AM
Lotte,
I want information for persons who went to **** if they are satisfied with the clinic. I want to do gender Selection to have a girl. Thank you.
miki9
October 24th, 2012, 05:13 AM
Nuthinbutpink,
Why **** is no god??
miki9
October 24th, 2012, 05:14 AM
Lotte,
And GENESIS are you satisfied??
miki9
October 24th, 2012, 05:17 AM
Lisvna,
Thank you for the post.
lisvna
October 24th, 2012, 05:47 AM
Miki like I told you before......longingforagirl is the first one who went to ****. At this forum people never went to ****......
nuthinbutpink
October 24th, 2012, 06:32 AM
**** uses 8-probe FISH which is not a good method for testing embryos. There can be a 10% chance of a false positive result per probe. It's not used really for Gender Selection. 5-probes is the highest amount when using FISH. After tgat, the cell must be washed and tested again.
It is illegal there. Genesis Cyprus or the USA is a better option.
Chessika
October 24th, 2012, 06:35 AM
I was offered, that they would do less chromosomes for me, if I would like that. But they really didn´t understand why I wanted that.
miki9
October 24th, 2012, 07:14 AM
nuthinbutpink,
Yes is ilegal but a person in a forum tell me that is ilegal but they let you to choose, it's a litte bit estrange.
lisvna
October 24th, 2012, 08:46 AM
Miki it is against the law to do only genderselection. So the clinic say they offers testing for health. Sometime a illness is only on the x or y. So they test also x and x. Because they test the x and y they know the gender of the embryo. But it is not their main reason to test gender (like in America or Cyprus). They let you choose which embryo you want to transfer. So it isn't directly genderselection because the clinic tests for health and from all the healthy embryos you can choose what you want.
In America you can say test just x and y dont test for health and I want only x. That's not against the law there.
That's the difference.
miki9
October 26th, 2012, 03:44 AM
Lisvna,
So the difference between Prague and Spain is that in Spain you can do PGD for health but they don't let you choose what you want but in Prague you do PGD for health and they YES let you choose. I'm correct???
lisvna
October 26th, 2012, 04:20 AM
I dont now exactly if in Spain they let you choose but yes in Prague it is for health but they let you choose.
lisvna
October 26th, 2012, 05:27 AM
There is another clinic who does genderselection in Europe. It's in Russia. I have never been there but maybe it's a good clinic? I don't know......
These are the things and prices they write:
Thank you for your interest in the services of our clinic.
The cost of IVF in our clinic is RUR 162,450.0 (including Menopur).
The cost of drugs is about RUR 50,000.0 if you buy them in Russia. All the
medications that are used in the treatment and are prescribed by the
doctor can be bought in our clinic. The initial consultation is RUR 3,000.0.
ICSI costs RUR 30,000.0.
PGD costs RUR 120,000.0.
Please use the given link: RBC - RosBusinessConsulting (http://www.rbcnews.com) to learn the current exchange rate.
Our success rate in IVF cycles has been 47% delivered pregnancy per transfer
in 2007, 54% clinical pregnancy per transfer in 2008, 56% clinical pregnancy per transfer in 2009.
PGD costs RUR 120,000.0, this price includes investigation for 13th, 18th, 21st,X and Y chromosomes and gender selection.
The treatment of foreign patients is usually organized the following way:
It is better if you come to Moscow twice. During your initial visit
our doctor will study your medical history, your medical test results,
perform ultrasound examination and prescribe any additional tests if required. On
the same day you can sign a contract for medical treatment and make partial
payment for IVF cycle. You can purchase all the necessary drugs in our clinic.
For the first visit 1 or 2 days are enough. Then you will start ovarian
stimulation under the supervision of your local gynecologist, and you will
come to Moscow two days before egg retrieval. You will stay in Moscow
for 6-7 days, and you can leave Moscow the next day after the embryo transfer.
You can choose not to come for the initial visit if you send us all the necessary
tests by e-mail or fax. After that the doctor will send you the necessary
recommendations and will keep in touch with you via e-mail or by phone. It is very
important that you visit a gynecologist (preferably from IVF clinic) who will
monitor your preparation for IVF cycle according to our instructions.
You will need to perform 2 or 3 ultrasound scans and some blood tests during that period.
Your total stay in Moscow will be for about 7-8 days.
Alternatively you can stay in Moscow for the whole treatment period, it will be for
about 2-3 weeks.
If you decide to have your treatment at our facility, please fill-in
the attached questionnaire for the doctor to review it and to give you
further recommendations.
If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact us.
miki9
October 26th, 2012, 06:11 AM
thank you LISVNA.
lisvna
October 26th, 2012, 12:25 PM
Your welcome!
stargazer
October 27th, 2012, 11:59 PM
Lotte I can't believe u speak Spanish as well. Your talent has no limits!!!
Lotte
October 30th, 2012, 04:38 PM
Thanks Star! But don't overrate me, haha!
***Have to practise my Mandarin Chinese skills now ***
miki9
October 31st, 2012, 05:00 AM
my e-mail is: mi.qui@live.com
Can we talk via e-mail??
mariposa
October 31st, 2012, 02:32 PM
Yo soy española, si puedo ayudarte en algo, avísame, aunque no hablo inglés perfecto, puedo echarte una mano! Había otra chica por aquí española que también quería ir por HT , a ver si te puede orientar mejor que yo, que no controlo nada sobre HT...
miki9
November 2nd, 2012, 06:31 AM
Hola Mariposa,
Me puedes enviar tu dirección de e-mail: la mia es: mi.qui@live.com.
Estoy con el tema PGD y por los foros he encontrado información de que hay dos clínicas que estan bién una en Praga(****) y otra en Chipre (Genesis). Pero es un tema muy complicado y caro y estoy informándome bien. Si quieres hablamos más privadamente por e-mail.
mariposa
November 2nd, 2012, 09:31 AM
Hola Miki, si quieres hablar privadamente, podemos usar el correo de aquí! Simplemente pinchando en mi nombre, verás la opción de enviar mensaje privado y ahí podemos hablar, aunque no controlo nada de HT, pero estaré encantada de ayudarte en otra cosa que necesites!
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