ALL Past & Present CLomid users...

[prayforprincess]

For all those ladies who have taken, are taking or plan to take clomid....

1)Dosage
2)Days clomid is/was taken in your cycle
3)Outcome (i.e pregnant - w/ 1 or 2, still ttc etc.)
4)If pregnant, how many cycles did it take to conceive?
5)Reason for taking clomid (just for a sway, do not ovulate etc.)

[mindyjean]

1)Dosage
50 mg, 50 mg and 50 mg
2)Days clomid is/was taken in your cycle
5-9, 3-7, 3-7
3)Outcome (i.e pregnant - w/ 1 or 2, still ttc etc.)
Pregnant with DS #1, BFN, and Pregnant with DS #2
4)If pregnant, how many cycles did it take to conceive?
One cycle for DS #1 and 2 cycles for DS #2
5)Reason for taking clomid (just for a sway, do not ovulate etc.)
I do not ovulate on my own.

[ashkash]

1)Dosage - 100 mg (after failed cycles with 25 & 50)
2)Days clomid is/was taken in your cycle - 3-7
3)Outcome (i.e pregnant - w/ 1 or 2, still ttc etc.) - became pregnant but lost baby (boy) at 9 weeks due to Trisomy 14
4)If pregnant, how many cycles did it take to conceive? 3rd Clomid cycle
5)Reason for taking clomid - was put on it by OB after ttc'ing 1.5 years prior to DS3. Later discovered that my lining was too thin & Clomid was making it worse & thus unlikely to ever sustain a pregnancy. RE switched me to injectible meds instead.

[Maple]

Hi!

I took 25 mg from CD 3 - 7, conceived identical twin girls the first cycle of taking Clomid. I started to take Clomid because I have PCOS (saw a Specialist after months of TTC and no BFP).

Good luck!

[ratcliffe1811]

Am I right in thinking clomid wouldnt have anything to do with identical twins? That's the one where the egg splits??? (correct me if im wrong, i often am) It'd be interesting to try for twin girls even out the playing field. But id assume any twins that clomid 'helped' with would be non identical due to being 2 seperate eggs? (Hopefully i make sense its pretty late a night and i dont make sense at the best of times)

[atomic sagebrush]

Well, no one actually knows why id twins happen. So, while we do not think that Clomid ups odds of id twins (for the reasons you mention - Clomid can make you release more than one egg and then that's why it increases odds of twins) we cannot totally say Clomid can't cause id twins, becasue you can have ID twins on Clomid, or even triplets if you conceived frat twins and then one split to become ID twins.

But, long story short, the vast majority of twins on Clomid are fraternal twins from two separate eggs.

[HopingForHairbows]

1) 50mg
2) Days 3-7
3) Will Update
4) Will Update
5) Ovulation issues (took 3 years to conceive youngest DS)

[bpram]

I have a 2 year old ds - clomid 50 mg day 2-6. Got pregnant the 3rd cycle. I did not sway back then and I think I was eating a pretty boy friendly diet (heathy vegetables every day, meat etc) and I think I gained a bit of weight the week I concieved. We did not dtd much - maybe 1-2 times pr week and only did it once in the fertile window. No pcos but do not ovulate on my own.
I am now trying to get pregnant and swaying for a girl. Have been on the LE diet 2-3 months and is on my first round if clomid. Same dose as last time. I got a pos ov test this morning which is 14 days after my last clomid pill, so I difinately ovulate late with clomid. We dtd yesterday evening and might do it again tonight ;-)

[atomic sagebrush]

Any more responses ladies??

[Dana-Alicia]

Yes please, more responses to this :D

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Present user.
1) 100mg
2) 3-7
3) still ttc ;
4)
5) swaying, and partly to boost O.



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[purple]

1) 50mg
2) CD 5-9
3) Fell pregnant with DS1, fell pregnant again but mc 7wks (blighted ovum)
4) Both times I have used it I got BFPs first cycle.
5)Reason for taking clomid - irregular cycles

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Sorry to jump in and disrupt the flow but a question for you Clomid users: was your ovarian activity around O enough to keep you from wanting to do any cardio? I've heard o pains can get pretty severe; and mine Are bad enough that i certainly don't want to jog.
Again sorry for thread crashing - I did ask a related questions few weeks back but didn't get a response. This was the thread if anyone wants to reply there? Clomid users (http://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49513)


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[atomic sagebrush]

yes I have had tons of people report this, sorry I did not see other thread

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

That's ok atomic! You bumped it for me once! Thanks for the reply! I'm feeling lots of "activity" for lack of a better way to put it but no surge yet.


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[purplepoet20]

Sorry to jump in and disrupt the flow but a question for you Clomid users: was your ovarian activity around O enough to keep you from wanting to do any cardio? I've heard o pains can get pretty severe; and mine Are bad enough that i certainly don't want to jog.
Again sorry for thread crashing - I did ask a related questions few weeks back but didn't get a response. This was the thread if anyone wants to reply there? Clomid users (http://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49513)


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I had really really bad pains when I took it later then cd5 (like my dr told me to). When I took it cd3 I had middle of the road pain but when I took 1/2 a pill every 12hrs from cd3-6 I had normal pains. A friend of mine took it only at night and said she felt sick every morning.

I know everyone is different but sometimes it may help to change the time you take or how.

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Hopefully I don't have too many rounds to take.... Fx this is it


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[TaytumJ]

Present user!

1) 50mg

2) 5-9

3) Will update!

4) irregular anovulatory cycles


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[twointow83]

Present user
1)Dosage- 50 mg
2)Days clomid is/was taken in your cycle- 3-7
3)Outcome (i.e pregnant - w/ 1 or 2, still ttc etc.)- Will update..
4)If pregnant, how many cycles did it take to conceive? Will update...
5)Reason for taking clomid (just for a sway, do not ovulate etc.) - Sway, hoping for an earlier O and increased egg quality.

[Boyzmommy]

I m starting clomid 50 mg cd3 to 7
Ay help would b appreciated

[twointow83]

I m starting clomid 50 mg cd3 to 7
Ay help would b appreciated
What exactly are you wanting to know?

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[Boyzmommy]

If i should take it on cd3 to 7 or 5 to 9
Is it a good sway?

[twointow83]

If i should take it on cd3 to 7 or 5 to 9
Is it a good sway?
Clomid sways pink and 3-7 is what atomic suggested for me. FX for you!

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[Boyzmommy]

Thanks a lot twointwo. I m just nervous i guess. I have dropped all supp to start taking clomid from tom. I hope it works for us.
When did u take your clomid?

[twointow83]

Thanks a lot twointwo. I m just nervous i guess. I have dropped all supp to start taking clomid from tom. I hope it works for us.
When did u take your clomid?
50mg 3-7 :)

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[Boyzmommy]

My friend is a dr and shes warning me not to take the med without an ob consult. N its not safe.
What are your thoughts on it

[has2gentlemen]

I personally don't think it's safe if you're taking it only for swaying purposes or to try for multiples.
Clomid acts on your estrogen receptors and can really mess up your hormones long term, hence why there's a lifetime limit on how often you can use it and why most doctors prefer you to try naturally for awhile before prescribing it. Not to mention the potential side effects of the clomid itself (cysts, thinned uterine lining resulting in miscarriages, psychological effects, etc).

To each their own, however. You have to decide how much risk you are willing to take.


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[Boyzmommy]

Hmm. I am scared now to take it.

[twointow83]

Hmm. I am scared now to take it.
I think monitoring lowers risk if taken for multiple cycles. I also take a baby asprin E3D to offset the affects of clomid on the lining and so far my lining is still great. The 2 big concerns I can think of with clomid are OHSS, which is unforeseeable but lowered somewhat by monitoring and also low risk with clomid unless you happen to be especially sensitive to it. Also, what was previously mentioned about hormones but taking it for a few short months is unlikely to cause issues. I am planning to talk to my doc if we don't conceive this cycle about basically- what now? Because even the manufacturer recommends moving on to something else if you haven't conceived in 3 cycles. But I don't think trying it out for a few months will be an issue. If it was they wouldn't give it out like candy lol ;)

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[Boyzmommy]

Yup u r right. Dr dont ask so many questions n just prescribe it.
Should i take it cd3-7 or cd5-9

[twointow83]

Yup u r right. Dr dont ask so many questions n just prescribe it.
Should i take it cd3-7 or cd5-9
What did your doc say? I've heard that taking it sooner is for earlier O and possibly higher chance of multiples...

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[Boyzmommy]

I m not monitered. But she recomended 3-7

[twointow83]

Sounds good!

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[Boyzmommy]

Does it matter what color is the pill. I got mine which is red but my friend told me it is supposed to be white pill

[has2gentlemen]

You should probably double check with your pharmacist or your doctors office, they can look at the pill and verify it for you a lot more reliably than we can.


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[Boyzmommy]

Today is my first dose n i don't want to miss it. I got it from someone n not dr so i cant confirm
So i want to confirm from u girls who already took it.
It says clomephene citrate 50mg
Company is clomaplex

[HealthyGirl]

FYI I bought my generic clomid from an online pharmacy and they are reddish. I ended up not taking them bc my doctor prescribed it to me. The ones my doctor gave me were white and bigger.


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[Boyzmommy]

Yeah i didnt get them from my dr. They are capsules and are red. I took it n now getting worried.

[Boyzmommy]

I read clomids side effects of birth defects n stuff. And pretty scared now.

[Boyzmommy]

Thanks a lot healthy girl.

[ImmiNAddi]

What did your doc say? I've heard that taking it sooner is for earlier O and possibly higher chance of multiples...

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Two - my FS has told me days 2-6 - have you heard of that before? Everything I see on here is 3-7 etc...

[Magical22]

Two - my FS has told me days 2-6 - have you heard of that before? Everything I see on here is 3-7 etc...

2-6 here in Australia for me and all my friends like 10 of us in a ttc thread.


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[purple]

My fertility specialist precribed cd5-9 when I took it. Looks like they vary a lot!

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[twointow83]

I read clomids side effects of birth defects n stuff. And pretty scared now.
With my history I talked it over with the geneticist at my high risk specialist's office. She has access to thousands of studies and sat on the phone with me for over an hour looking into it! The final verdict was yes, there is a slightly increased risk of issues after taking clomid, most "common" being learning disability, BUT the increased odds are negligible at less than 1% in more "common" issues like LD ( less than 0.5% in most of the scary stuff) over general population. Given there is a risk of a child of ours having a learning disability anyway, as it runs on both sides, and I am going to school to be a special education teacher, I didn't feel LD was a big enough issue to avoid clomid. But that is a decision you have to make for yourself. HTH.

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[twointow83]

Two - my FS has told me days 2-6 - have you heard of that before? Everything I see on here is 3-7 etc...
Yes, it's not the most common timing but certainly happens.

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[Poptart32]

Pill colours, sizes and shapes vary with brands. But if you are buying it you will never know 100% that it is clomid despite the generic name being printed on the packaging.

1) 50mg
2) days 2-6
3) 2 cycles so far mild ohss &bfn [emoji107] so month off for me this month
4) will update
5) irregular ovulator/cycles, mild pcos, hypothyroid.

Hoping for a healthy baby ASAP trying to sway pink after 2 gorgeous boys xxx


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[Boyzmommy]

Thanks a lot girl. Twointow i really appreciate your detailed answers.
Today is my second dose of 50 mg cd3-7

[Boyzmommy]

With my history I talked it over with the geneticist at my high risk specialist's office. She has access to thousands of studies and sat on the phone with me for over an hour looking into it! The final verdict was yes, there is a slightly increased risk of issues after taking clomid, most "common" being learning disability, BUT the increased odds are negligible at less than 1% in more "common" issues like LD ( less than 0.5% in most of the scary stuff) over general population. Given there is a risk of a child of ours having a learning disability anyway, as it runs on both sides, and I am going to school to be a special education teacher, I didn't feel LD was a big enough issue to avoid clomid. But that is a decision you have to make for yourself. HTH.

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Thanks for answering. I m taking clomid just for swaying thats why i m a bit skeptical.
Did u conceive both ur sons on clomid?

[twointow83]

Thanks for answering. I m taking clomid just for swaying thats why i m a bit skeptical.
Did u conceive both ur sons on clomid?
Nope. My only clomid conception thus far was my chem preg and I don't think my body was healed enough after my D&C to sustain that one... I don't blame clomid. I did have one conception on a cycle following a clomid cycle (another loss- late term stillborn). But, no, my boys aren't clomids babies.

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[Boyzmommy]

Oh i m sorry for ur loss hun. Was clomid the reason for still birth

[twointow83]

Oh i m sorry for ur loss hun. Was clomid the reason for still birth
I don't know how to answer that. For years we were told he had Anencephaly, but recently upon his records being reviewed by 2 specialists it was discovered that it is extremely unlikely that that was the case. So we don't really know what happened. I think it was a cord issue because of his neck appearance when he was born. But we will never know for sure.

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[Boyzmommy]

I don't know how to answer that. For years we were told he had Anencephaly, but recently upon his records being reviewed by 2 specialists it was discovered that it is extremely unlikely that that was the case. So we don't really know what happened. I think it was a cord issue because of his neck appearance when he was born. But we will never know for sure.

Thats really sad. I wish no mother has to go thru this. Best of luck sweetie. I hope u get a healthy baby girl. I ll keep u in my prayers����
Thats really sad. I wish no mother has to go thru this. Best of luck sweetie. I hope u get a healthy baby girl. I ll keep u in my prayer






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Thats really sad. I wish no mother has to go thru this. Best of luck sweetie. I hope u get a healthy baby girl. I ll keep u in my prayer

[twointow83]

Thanks Boyz. I hope you get your healthy pink bean too.

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[atomic sagebrush]

I don't know how to answer that. For years we were told he had Anencephaly, but recently upon his records being reviewed by 2 specialists it was discovered that it is extremely unlikely that that was the case. So we don't really know what happened. I think it was a cord issue because of his neck appearance when he was born. But we will never know for sure.

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I am really sorry that you had to answer this Two, sometimes language and cultural differences cause misunderstanding.

To the best of our knowledge Clomid doesn't cause birth defects or any other issues with pregnancy when it is taken as directed and not used during pregnancy.

[Boyzmommy]

I m sorry twointow if i said or asked which should not b asked. But atomic is right cultural difference n lang barriers conveys something else sometimes but still i apologize deeply

[twointow83]

I am really sorry that you had to answer this Two, sometimes language and cultural differences cause misunderstanding.

To the best of our knowledge Clomid doesn't cause birth defects or any other issues with pregnancy when it is taken as directed and not used during pregnancy.


I m sorry twointow if i said or asked which should not b asked. But atomic is right cultural difference n lang barriers conveys something else sometimes but still i apologize deeply
Fudge. My reply didn't post.

Atomic-what do you mean? I didn't mind. I am a pretty open person. If I don't want to answer something I say so :) what do you mean by language and cultural differences?? I'm not sure how that plays in here... [emoji53]

Boyz- I didn't mind :) If I didn't want to answer I'd say so. I don't mind talking about my losses because as far as I am concerned they, the babies I lost, lost their chance to make thier mark on this world. So, if answering questions about them helps someone, then in a small way they made a mark. They are recognized for the life they lost and remembered by others. So, I truly don't mind :)



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[twointow83]

I am really sorry that you had to answer this Two, sometimes language and cultural differences cause misunderstanding.

To the best of our knowledge Clomid doesn't cause birth defects or any other issues with pregnancy when it is taken as directed and not used during pregnancy.
Also, I was told that because clomid stays in the system for weeks after being taken, as you know, the potential exists but the risk is VERY low... to the point of being negligible.

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[Boyzmommy]

Thanks hun. I really appreciate u understand

[twointow83]

Thanks hun. I really appreciate u understand
You are welcome :D

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[Boyzmommy]

Also, I was told that because clomid stays in the system for weeks after being taken, as you know, the potential exists but the risk is VERY low... to the point of being negligible.

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I hope it works out to be ok. I wont b taking it next cycle as its too much stress on my mind. I took two pills already so dont want to drop it in btw
N i dont trust the pills i got from a person online.

[twointow83]

Atomic would have to weigh on here, but if you are truly concerned I don't think stopping now would hurt anything. .. esp since you don't know for sure you can trust the pills! On that count alone I think the benefit of stopping far outweighs the risk of stopping.

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[Boyzmommy]

Hmmm tht is right. I guess i wont take it tom then

[Boyzmommy]

May b i ll weight for atomic to chip in

[twointow83]

You may want to mssg her. She may not see this thread tonight.

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[atomic sagebrush]

I m sorry twointow if i said or asked which should not b asked. But atomic is right cultural difference n lang barriers conveys something else sometimes but still i apologize deeply

Some people might feel bad about having to discuss a lost pregancy. I could understand what you were asking and I just meant that I wish that I had seen the question first and answered so she didn't have to talk about it if she didn't feel up to it. :) I hope that makes sense.

[atomic sagebrush]

I hope it works out to be ok. I wont b taking it next cycle as its too much stress on my mind. I took two pills already so dont want to drop it in btw
N i dont trust the pills i got from a person online.

WHile I don't advise getting pills on line if you've already taken them I'd probably just continue but it is totally up to you. Stopping does no harm, you may ovulate a little soooner.

[Boyzmommy]

Thank atomic

[kellbell827]

Hi Ladies! Looking for some feedback. First, rewind to a few months ago, I bought a plan and was preparing to start swaying in September. I was on micronor until April when I stopped bfing my now almost 14 month old. AF did not return until June and we decided that we weren't ready to try yet at that point so I went on ortho tri cyclen until September (3 cycles). At the beginning of September, I stopped taking that. Since then, I have been bleeding (sorry TMI) about every 2 weeks. Of course this happens now that we are ready to try!! So I went to my ob/gyn on Monday and she ordered bloodwork and u/s to see what is going on. She said we could try clomid depending on results b/c clearly I am not ovulating. The ironic thing is, I was seriously considering buying clomid online a few months ago while I was prepping for my sway and decided against it. Now that I may need it, I am nervous!

So here are my questions - I have 3 beautiful children that were conceived naturally and quickly - what the heck is happening now???? I am 31!!

I am nervous about using clomid and the risk of twins. What is the actual risk of twins? What other side effects can happen?

I have my sway all planned out and got my plan months ago - I actually realized today when I signed in that my membership lapsed b/c I didn't update my card (it got hacked so I had to get a new one) - but how does the possibility of being on clomid affect my sway?? Right now, I have been dieting (loosely), skipping breakfast, eliminated snacking (or at least trying), and taking fiber 3-4 times a day, before meals.

Any advice, suggestions, feedback, sharing your experiences is appreciated!

I am waiting on the results of the bloodwork and my u/s is next week so if doc feels clomid is best, then it won't be until next cycle. I am currently on CD 4.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi Kell, I strongly recommend you go with the Clomid. It's among the best sway tactics and it is totally medically indicated for you. It's among the safest drugs with millions of people using it since the 1960's and I believe it to be as safe as any medication can be.

I think the combo of being off and on the BC has caused some weird cycles. Now usually over time this would work itself out but hey, if ya gots the Clomid option, use it!

I want you on iron 18-60 mg 3x a week or even 4x (if you are taking only the 18 mg, not the 30/60). I'd also drop the fiber.

Odds of twinning are about 8% on Clomid. 1-3% without it.

[twointow83]

Hi Ladies! Looking for some feedback. First, rewind to a few months ago, I bought a plan and was preparing to start swaying in September. I was on micronor until April when I stopped bfing my now almost 14 month old. AF did not return until June and we decided that we weren't ready to try yet at that point so I went on ortho tri cyclen until September (3 cycles). At the beginning of September, I stopped taking that. Since then, I have been bleeding (sorry TMI) about every 2 weeks. Of course this happens now that we are ready to try!! So I went to my ob/gyn on Monday and she ordered bloodwork and u/s to see what is going on. She said we could try clomid depending on results b/c clearly I am not ovulating. The ironic thing is, I was seriously considering buying clomid online a few months ago while I was prepping for my sway and decided against it. Now that I may need it, I am nervous!

So here are my questions - I have 3 beautiful children that were conceived naturally and quickly - what the heck is happening now???? I am 31!!

I am nervous about using clomid and the risk of twins. What is the actual risk of twins? What other side effects can happen?

I have my sway all planned out and got my plan months ago - I actually realized today when I signed in that my membership lapsed b/c I didn't update my card (it got hacked so I had to get a new one) - but how does the possibility of being on clomid affect my sway?? Right now, I have been dieting (loosely), skipping breakfast, eliminated snacking (or at least trying), and taking fiber 3-4 times a day, before meals.

Any advice, suggestions, feedback, sharing your experiences is appreciated!

I am waiting on the results of the bloodwork and my u/s is next week so if doc feels clomid is best, then it won't be until next cycle. I am currently on CD 4.
As far as twins. Even if you get 2 follicles it doesn't mean you will get twins. DH and I would love twins. So when we saw we had 2 follicles we BD'd like bunnies and still only caught 1. If you are 100% against twins you may want to be monitored with follicle studies then skip cycles with more than 1 follicle, but even then there is always a chance for identical twins.

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[atomic sagebrush]

:agree: with this totally. I have seen many, many cycles where people had 2 follicles and didn't even conceive at all, let alone twins. I have even had some couples who had been TTC unsuccessfully for a long time, proceed with DTD even with 3-4 cycles (on doc's recommendation, not mine!!) and not conceive.

[mt9178]

I conceived my boys naturally but one did take a year of trying. I will be starting my second round of clomid tonight (dose upped to 100 mg bc I did not ovulate on 50).

I feel your frustration Kell, it's hard to learn that things are not working like they used to be. Fingers crossed that clomid is just what we need ;)

[kellbell827]

Sigh....so I just talked to the NP at my OB/GYN's office. All of the blood work is normal. She said she wants to see what the u/s finds before making any further recommendations. She said there may be a fibroid or a polyp that she didn't feel and once she gets the u/s results she will contact me again and possibly have the doctor re-examine me. She didn't say anything either way about the clomid and I was afraid to appear too eager and ask for it.

Anyone have a similar experience? I don't understand how I can be bleeding literally every 2 weeks around the time where I would expect to be ovulating and the bloodwork is all normal but then again, I'm not sure what they were looking for either. Atomic - do you think clomid is still beneficial at this point? I just want things to be normal, I honestly don't even care about the clomid for sway purposes b/c I felt pretty good about my sway. The waiting game continues...my u/s is not until Wednesday. So I probably won't hear anything back again until Thursday or Friday.

[mt9178]

I had a mass in my uterus that had to be removed via a hysterscopy and d&c. I was not conceiving and mentioned having a non-pregnancy ultrasound, that is when they found the mass. I had a miscarriage in May and was still not pregnant 6 months later so that was why I asked to be checked. Also I was bleeding really really heavily to the point that overnight pads were soaked in a few hours.

The ultrasound will hopefully tell you if you have a polyp or fibroid as those can cause heavy and irregular bleeding and keep the egg from implanting. Good luck

[atomic sagebrush]

Bleeding every 2 weeks NEEDS to have more investigations though Kell. If you were to conceive and you do have a fibroid or polyp on your cervix then that could doom a pregnancy. Bleeding every couple weeks is not normal and they need to find out why it is happening.

Clomid is always beneficial. It only helps you get pregnant when things are going weird (especially the first month or two you take it)

[mt9178]

Just wondering if anyone wants to share updated clomid experiences

1)Dosage
2)Days clomid is/was taken in your cycle
3)Outcome (i.e pregnant - w/ 1 or 2, still ttc etc.)
4)If pregnant, how many cycles did it take to conceive?
5)Reason for taking clomid (just for a sway, do not ovulate etc.)

I had to up my dose to 100mg this month as 50 did not lead to ovulation. I am now on cd11 and waiting to see what happens.

[Boyzmommy]

1)50mg
2)cd3-cd7
3)pregnant
4)first cycle
5)just for swaying

[Honeybug]

Septembers Cycle was my first on clomid - dh and I are on a TTC/swaying break until Dec/the new year, where we will resume clomid

1)
Septembers prescription was 50 mg given to me by my family Dr
I saw the OB two weeks later who says that he prefers 100 mg and so our future clomid cycles will be the 100 mg

2)
Days 3-7

3)
Still TTC - hopefully will hear TWINS!

4)
For swaying purposes: after TTC twin girls with vitex and doing lots of research I decided I wanted to try to get a prescription for clomid.

Mt: I'm sorry the 50 mg didn't work for you :( hopefully the 100 mg will be what your body needs to get your sticky pink bean

[mt9178]

Thanks Honeybug. I am really hoping the 100 will work. It sure is getting discouraging as we have been ttc for quite a while.

DH and I joke about the clomid leading to twins, yikes I would love it but man would I be busy :)

Good luck when you resume ttc, hope you get twins like you are hoping for.

[missiz]

My Dr has prescribed clomid for me and I will be trying it this cycle, what seems to be the best tactic as far as DTD? do you try ever day leading up or do you try just once at positive opk? And does DH do anything with regards to FR or do we just leave that part of the swaying while we are trying clomid?

I have also been told to take it day 2-6, is that ok? I'm new to clomid so this is a learning curve for me and I want to do the best I can with it.

[missiz]

anyone got any suggestions??



My Dr has prescribed clomid for me and I will be trying it this cycle, what seems to be the best tactic as far as DTD? do you try ever day leading up or do you try just once at positive opk? And does DH do anything with regards to FR or do we just leave that part of the swaying while we are trying clomid?

I have also been told to take it day 2-6, is that ok? I'm new to clomid so this is a learning curve for me and I want to do the best I can with it.

[ImmiNAddi]

If you are swaying girl then it's just dtd once at positive opk. I was on it from day 2-6 the first time I used it and then 3-7 the next cycle (which was this cycle with a BFP). Best of luck :happy:

[TaytumJ]

I agree with Immi! I would start with one attempt at +OPK for a girl - frequent BD sways blue.

From what I understand, days to take it just depends on why you need it. My doc prescribed days 5-9, but I wasn't ovulating at all. I think a lot of people have success starting sooner though (days 2 or 3). Good luck!! :)

[Boyzmommy]

I took it 3-7 n one attempt on pos opk


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[Boyzmommy]

I took clomid on 3-7 50 mg. i did every 4 day bd but did once on pos opk. I didnt do much else with it. Atomic doesn't recommend strict sway tactics with clomid. Ovulation ws a bit painful for me. Other than tht all gud


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[atomic sagebrush]

My Dr has prescribed clomid for me and I will be trying it this cycle, what seems to be the best tactic as far as DTD? do you try ever day leading up or do you try just once at positive opk? And does DH do anything with regards to FR or do we just leave that part of the swaying while we are trying clomid?

I have also been told to take it day 2-6, is that ok? I'm new to clomid so this is a learning curve for me and I want to do the best I can with it.

Oh sorry somehow I missed this (if you guys ever have the last post on a page, be on the lookout because I may not see them)

I replied in your other thread about the DTD pattern.

I would have hubby release every 2-4 days unless you are a super huge believer in frequency. The frequency stuff is just getting too poor of results to bother with it when Clomid 'sin the mix.

Days 2-6 is ok. Most take it 3-7 and personally that is what I feel has gotten the best results for us, but it's up to you.

[missiz]

ok thanks for that atomic, what about the time of day you take the tablet? as far as any side effect symptoms, which is best - morning or at night?

[Honeybug]

Hi Missiz :)

I take the pills at night as I wanted to lessen some of the side effects (or at the very least, as much as I could!). Some ladies don't have any side effects and have no problem taking in the morning. I think the main thing that's important, is that the pills are taken at the same time and that you don't switch from night to morning midcycle.

Hope that helps and best of luck to you!

[Poptart32]

I second taking at night!!!

Also they say the earlier in the cycle you take the more likely you are to release more than one egg but the further along such as 5-9 you produce one better quality egg.




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[atomic sagebrush]

night

I haven't seen any strong correlation between the days it's taken and twins. I've seen twins on 5-9 and singles on 3-7 and because I think 3-7 works better that is what I recommend. If you want to do EVERYTHIGN to prevent twins I guess it's worth the chance of taking it 5-9, I just feel it's been inferior odds of conception for us.

[missiz]

ok thanks for the information. Also as clomid tends to have a drying up effect on CM, is there anything girl friendly that you can use if you need a little help? or do you just recommend nothing if you can get by?

[Poptart32]

I've read that a bit of preseed is ok! [emoji4]


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[Boyzmommy]

Or use sylk. It is girl friendly


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[missiz]

is preseed girl friendly? which would be better out of sylk or preseed?

Thanks for the suggestions ladies :)

[Boyzmommy]

Sylk


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[Poptart32]

I *think* sylk is acidic and reduces fertility so some prefer to use a little preseed instead despite it swaying blue but double check that with atomic x


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[atomic sagebrush]

:agree: a small amount of Preseed appears to be neutral and you only need a little ususally for comfy BD. Even saliva kills sperm so if you need some help, a small amount of Preseed will not kill the swimmers.

Some people do like to start off on Clomid using pink friendly jellies and lubes and that is fine. Over time you do need to drop these and if you still need a lubricant any sperm safe jelly is ok just use the bare minimum you need.

[Poptart32]

Atomic.. With clomid do you still recommend one attempt with pink swaying?


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[atomic sagebrush]

AT first, yes I do. Most people are given Clomid for 6 months so we have some leeway to play with sway tactics the first month or three.

[Poptart32]

Just to be awkward.. I have technically already tried with clomid (with multiple attempts) twice in the 7 months ive been off of birth control but the last 2 months ive gone without it. Do I still go with the one attempt? Or e3d? Time is ticking on now! I had 4 months worth here so I have two months worth left.


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[missiz]

as far as lubricants go, I havent been able to find preseed in any chemists near me so far, but I did find one called Forelife Fertility Care - which says its a sperm-safe lubricant. would that be ok to use or would it be best to go out and find the preseed?

[Boyzmommy]

I would say find sylk if u could. But i guess any sperm friendly lubricant will do as well


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[atomic sagebrush]

Any lubricant marketed as sperm-safe, conception friendly is fine!! The Forelife is fine, it's just too time consuming for me to actually type every brand name out.

Conceive Plus, Yes Baby are a couple others that are not going to kill sperm

[atomic sagebrush]

I would say find sylk if u could. But i guess any sperm friendly lubricant will do as well


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While sylk is considered to sway pink, it does kill sperm and hence if someone has been on Clomid more than a month or two they may need to drop Sylk in order to conceive. A small amount of any sperm-safe lube is probably neutral to a sway

[atomic sagebrush]

Just to be awkward.. I have technically already tried with clomid (with multiple attempts) twice in the 7 months ive been off of birth control but the last 2 months ive gone without it. Do I still go with the one attempt? Or e3d? Time is ticking on now! I had 4 months worth here so I have two months worth left.


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No that's why I like having this site is because we try to focus on what is right for each individual rather than the "cookie cutter" approach.

This is one of those things where I'd need a crystal ball to know what is correct. After 7 months of TTC my inclination is to start adjusting things regardless of Clomid to up odds of conception. AT the least I'd want you on every 4 days. Since you've been TTC this long and only 2 months Clomid left, I'd do every 4 days plus one additional attempt at pos OPK this month, next month every 3 days plus one additional attempt at pos OPK

[mommakofboys]

I've been lurking for a long time. I'm starting 3-7 50 mg clomid tomorrow for swaying only. I will have a mid cycle ultrasound. I'm wondering about the bd timing also. We have gotten pregnant every time other than one month of trying. Two miscarriages. I was thinking have dh release elsewhere for 7 days straight and do one attempt at positive opk? I have been trying to do the diet and drinking crystal lite. I took vitex some the past two weeks, but stopped due to headaches.

[atomic sagebrush]

Stay off the vitex from now on, it may make Clomid ineffective.

Doing the release ~may~ be better odds of pink but lower odds of conception. Having him release every 2-4 days instead ~may~ be more blue friendly. The important thing is that one attempt. Keep that for at least the first couple months with hte Clomid.

[mommakofboys]

Ok thank you! We haven't bd almost two weeks before our one attempt. Will that be ok?

[atomic sagebrush]

How old is he?? If over 35 abstain is not best http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-girl/8801-articles-studies-about-why-abstain-not-good-males-over-35-a.html

As a general rule I try to avoid the very long abstains (anything beyond 14 days) even for guys under 35 and even moreso with Clomid in the mix, so if it's still several days out, you may need to have him "clean the pipes" and either keep going with abstain or do one of the other patterns we talked about.

[mommakofboys]

He's only 26. I think he has super sperm.. I think this cycle I will try the release every day (7 days) and do the one attempt at positive opk. Thank you!

[mommakofboys]

Ok today is cd 10 I got a flashing smiley in the morning. We bd late that night. Now cd 11 I had my mid cycle ultrasound and she said one follicle is 20mm and a few small ones on the other side. She said I should ovulate with in a day or two. Do you think that's an ok cut off?

[atomic sagebrush]

I don't recommend cutoffs on Clomid - how many months do you have?? In future months I would wait for your SOLID smiley (first one) and attempt then. That is much better odds of conception than those flashy days.

Since you're on your first month out, if you really want to be in with best possible sway even if it gives a low chance of conception, you'd hang with this one attempt. If you're ok with a possibly higher chance of blue and higher chance of conception, then have another attempt.

If this is the only month of Clomid you have, I urge you to have another attempt tonight. I know it's hard to give up timing but it really doesn't work and you're cutting your chances of conceiving on Clomid (which DOES work) by trying to do timing too. It is somewhat more blue friendly to have 2 attempts in fertile window, BUT at the same time the Clomid helps too so it's somewhat contingent on a) if you have more Clomid to possibly use in the future and b) what YOU want to do (this is, of course, of paramount importance)!!

Timing debunked here. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/7691-trouble-timing.html

[mommakofboys]

I'm on day 4 of flashing smileys. I will do one more attempt at solid smiley. The clomid really dried my cm. I don't know how many months I will be on it, but my doctor said call her if I'm pregnant or not.

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes absolutely if you've had 4 days since attempt be sure to attempt at solid.

This is your first month on Clomid, then??

[pinkin2011]

Hi Atomic. I am starting my clomid on day 5 to 9 and I am having my first scan done 4 days after my last pill. Should I start using my clear blue digital opk on day 10 the day after my last clomid pill? And should I do one attempt when I get a solid smile? My dr has given me 6 months of clomid then reassess . I am taking 50mg

[mommakofboys]

It's my first month on it. I started feeling wet so I used a test. Sure enough it's a solid smiley!

[pinkin2011]

1. Dosage: 50mg
2. Days clomid is taken : 5 to 9
3. Pregnant/ Hopefully update soon!
4: How many clomid cycles: Not sure as yet
5: Reason for taking clomid. I have terribly long cycles with ovulation anywhere fro day 30 and up. Been ttc for a while now and nothing is happening. Hopefully the clomid will sway a little also for me :) Can only hope hey!?

[Poptart32]

Pinkin don't use OPK's for at least 3 days after your last pill as you get false positives from the residual meds! But you should ovulate between 5-10 days after your last pill!


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[pinkin2011]

Awesome. Thanks poptart. I am having a scan day 6 to see what action is happening

[pinkin2011]

I mean 6 days after last pill

[atomic sagebrush]

Pinkin don't use OPK's for at least 3 days after your last pill as you get false positives from the residual meds! But you should ovulate between 5-10 days after your last pill!


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:agree: and it may even be LONGER than the 5-10 days, that is just a rough estimate. It's not unusual to have it be longer than that.

Beware those first false positive OPK that the Clomid causes, if you do a test 3-5 days after your last dose and it's positive, then have attempt but either keep testing or switch to e4d after that in case it was a false positive. Clomid absolutely can cause false pos OPK!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Awesome. Thanks poptart. I am having a scan day 6 to see what action is happening

scans are better than OPK anyway!!

[pinkin2011]

I am thinking of buying a few boxes of the ovulplan tests and I find this brand works great for me. I plan to start testing the day after my last pill and watch the opk go neg so then I can watch for it o turn positive..... Seems extreme and expensive but I don't want to miss it .... TBH I am not excited about using clomid and the least amount of time I need to be on it the better. I just hope to get a bfp first cycle because clomid does worry me.

[missiz]

so I am on day 23 of my cycle, I took clomid on CD 2-6 and I got positive opk on day 14 and DTD that night. the question I am asking is does clomid change how long your cycles are? my 'normal' cycle averages about 30-34 days (has been as long as 40) but I am not sure if clomid would make my cycle even longer or perhaps make it shorter?

[purple]

Clomid made my last cycle shorter because I ovulated earlier. I ovulated day 18 so my cycle was 30 days. This year my average O day has been cd30 giving me 42 day cycles.

My luteal phase was 12 days with and without clomid.

You could probably expect AF anywhere from cd 25 to cd 30ish assuming you ovulated on day 15 it depends how long your LP is. Unless you get a BFP of course!

[atomic sagebrush]

so I am on day 23 of my cycle, I took clomid on CD 2-6 and I got positive opk on day 14 and DTD that night. the question I am asking is does clomid change how long your cycles are? my 'normal' cycle averages about 30-34 days (has been as long as 40) but I am not sure if clomid would make my cycle even longer or perhaps make it shorter?

It depends on when you ovulate and how long your LP usually is. Clomid can change both your O day and your LP so it can certainly change your cycle.

IF your LP is 14 days, you'd just expect AF 14 days after O. The first part of your cycle, the part before O, can vary in lenght so if you Oed, for example, on CD 20 usually, with a 14 day LP, you'd have a 34 day cycle. Since you probably Oed on CD 15-16 you should expect your period on CD 29-30 (if your LP is 14 days long)

NOW, that having been said, the lenght of the LP can vary a bit too, if you normally have a 10 day LP, you might normally O on CD 20 and have a 10 day LP and then get AF on CD 30. On Clomid this might mean you O on D 15-16 and then get AF CD 25-26 even. Clomid usually lengthens LP but it doesn't always, and can even shorten it for some people so it can be that you could end up with a 10,11,12 day lp even if you normally have a 14 day one.

[missiz]

well last month I used opk's to monitor my ovulation without having Clomid. 1st day of period was 12/10, positive opk was on 28/10 (CD 17), didnt get my next period until 12/11 (total cycle length 31). I havent charted my ovulation long enough to get a pattern yet though. I guess ill just have to wait and see, when do you think would be the earliest i could try a pregnancy test? im on CD 24 now.

[pinkin2011]

Hi missiz, are you doing anything else to sway along side the clomid? I have stopped the diet tho still dont eat anything that is very nutrient and no meat of any kind. I do exercise daily tho 2 times a day for and hr a session. Sometimes have sundays off.

[missiz]

I am not officially on the LE diet but my eating habits line up with alot of the guidelines they have for it, so I'd say I was roughly following the LE diet aswell. I'm not skipping breakfast but I am making sure its 12-14 hours between dinner the night before and breakfast the next day, so that the blood sugar can stay down.

[pinkin2011]

Yeah well I am not a huge breakfast eater I never have been and I still have 2 boys. I def have changed my eating habbits tho as in I have hardly any protein and mostly carbs. No eggs and hardly any dairy just a bit of skim milk in my coffee . If I have another boy then so be it! I cant let a sway rule me as it bring the rest of the family down and tbh It wont be the end of the world if I have another boy I just wont be finding out gender until the birth this time. Unless its TWINS!!! lol

[pinkin2011]

I have been struggling to ttc and being that I only ovulate every 30 to 50 days a baby no matter the gender will be fantastic!

[atomic sagebrush]

well last month I used opk's to monitor my ovulation without having Clomid. 1st day of period was 12/10, positive opk was on 28/10 (CD 17), didnt get my next period until 12/11 (total cycle length 31). I havent charted my ovulation long enough to get a pattern yet though. I guess ill just have to wait and see, when do you think would be the earliest i could try a pregnancy test? im on CD 24 now.

Clomid will change the pattern, don't get too hung up on what happened before because it will typically different.

In the cycle you're describing, your FP was about 18 days long, so that would make your LP in a 31 day cycle about 13 days.

[mommakofboys]

Well clomid worked for me. Just got my bfp at 12 dpo!

[atomic sagebrush]

congrats!

[missiz]

congrats!!! :P

this month was the lucky month for both of us!!! very exciting :)

[mommakofboys]

Thank you!

[Beautifulrainbow]

Hello all, popping in to introduce myself! My name is Caz, I have posted in othe clomid groups too so sorry if you see same message, I'm just looking for support a buddy who has been or is going through the same thing!
after months of failed attempts to get pregnant my husband and I sort out private fertility treatment.
If everything is ok with my hubby on Tuesday, on Friday I take provea (hope I spelt correctly) to induce a period then start clomid on cd2.
any advice you ladies can give me would greatly be appreciated!
Is there anything I can do to increase the chance of clomid working 1st time around? Is there anything else I need to know about?
I'm so nervous!

[purple]

Hi Caz,
Are you swaying for a girl or a boy or are you just trying to get pregnant? Generally the best chance to get pregnant is to have plenty of attempts in the fertile window and also you can use preseed to help if you are lacking in EWCM. The only issue is that is very boy friendly so if you are trying for a girl you may want to keep it to one or two attempts.

Good luck! I took provera to bring on my AF when ttc my first. I then conceived him on the first clomid cycle (50mg cd5-9) so it can happen!!

[Beautifulrainbow]

Hi Thankyou for your reply!
I would really love a girl so am swaying for a girl and have been since April 2015, but every time I tried something on the girl sway something crops up. I did spoil myself over xmas and new year, but putting that aside I have been trying to eat healthy as possible, lose weight which I have lost over 10kgs since April, the only sups I'm taking now are: folic acid, cinnamon, cranberry, calcium and magnesium.
My diet has been mostly brown bread, rice,natural youghurt, pasta and chicken, grapes, strawberries when I can as I don't like them, cucumber broccoli, peppers and some sweets on cheat days, organic milk.
We were bding every 3-4days until I found out I had PCOS and the in sept our GP told us to bd every other day. Now finding out I start clomid next week i feel it's all been thrown out the window again I now have so many sway questions, don't know where to start again, should I carry on BD every other day should I go back to every 3-4 days, should the hubby realise every day or just BD every 3-4days?

[purple]

I would probably drop the calcium and magnesium as they aren't really recommended here for girl sway. I'm also not sure if cranberry is still recommended. I would check if it is ok with clomid.

I personally wouldn't do every 2 days straight away as it is quite blue friendly (that's how I got both my boys but there were other factors too!). Will you be getting monitored with ultrasounds? I would really try to get an attempt in at OPK+.

[Beautifulrainbow]

I don't mind dropping some sups saves on cost :highfive:I told the consultant what I was taking and she didn't seem to have a problem with them? But then I have just been reading something about clomid and thin womb lining that clomid makes it worse the nurse said on Friday that my lining was thin! Does the lining thin out coming up to af or can it stay thin until coming up to o?
Just noticed you replied to my thread too Thankyou.xx
Also that bleed I had last night has slowed to spotting this morning, I have been worrying that it was implantation bleed, but then my head is telling me that it cannot be as nurse said lining was too thin

[Beautifulrainbow]

Yes I will be monitored closely consultant said I would take the 50mg clomid cd2-6 then I will have a scan 10 days after, making it cd 12 is that right?, to see if I responded correctly to treatment!
If I dont o at the 10 days then I will be scan every couple of days!

[purple]

Normally you O 5-10 days after the last clomid tablet but not always. For me it was 8-10 days.

I don't know much about uterine linings but I would think it would be thick just before AF and then it goes thinner when you have AF and then gets built up again. There have been some posts about trying to improve linings so maybe have a look to see if there is anything you can take to help.

[Beautifulrainbow]

What does pink swayers going HT mean?

[Frilly Lady]

HT means high tech, so going on to do IVF with pgd where they can select their desired gender.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi Thankyou for your reply!
I would really love a girl so am swaying for a girl and have been since April 2015, but every time I tried something on the girl sway something crops up. I did spoil myself over xmas and new year, but putting that aside I have been trying to eat healthy as possible, lose weight which I have lost over 10kgs since April, the only sups I'm taking now are: folic acid, cinnamon, cranberry, calcium and magnesium.
My diet has been mostly brown bread, rice,natural youghurt, pasta and chicken, grapes, strawberries when I can as I don't like them, cucumber broccoli, peppers and some sweets on cheat days, organic milk.
We were bding every 3-4days until I found out I had PCOS and the in sept our GP told us to bd every other day. Now finding out I start clomid next week i feel it's all been thrown out the window again I now have so many sway questions, don't know where to start again, should I carry on BD every other day should I go back to every 3-4 days, should the hubby realise every day or just BD every 3-4days?

Clomid is a great pink sway tactic. Here is the progression that I typically recommend with Clomid, I think I posted this in another thread so apologies if I am repeating myself. You obviously do NOT need to do it this way, I'm just tyring to demonstrate how I think it is best to progress on clomid from fewer attempts to more attempts. Do not just jump right in, first month out, going right to SMEP and count on the Clomid to sway pink for you. That's not how it works.

First month or two - BD one attempt at positive OPK.
Second month or two - every 4 days
third month or two - every 4 days plus one attempt at pos opk
6th month on Clomid - SMEP

DO NOT have hubby release every day. Doesn't work and really cuts odds of conception. In months with one attempt, have him do regular release every 2-4 days. In e4d months, just have that as his release.
YOu're already doing the most important thing to increase the chances that you will get pregnant with your PCO - you are on the Clomid! I think you should at least give it a try with Clomid + sway tactics before you start actively swaying blue in order to get pregnant. Too many people will go that way and it really hurts your chances.

I do not recommend cranberry for any women who are swaying. In this case I know more than the "experts" because I have seen a kajillion women taking it in lots of different circumstances and a)it doesn't work and b) causes so many side effects that it is frightening (including increased risk of miscarriage and bleeding in brain and stomach that may be fatal). YOu are very likely going to have very severe O pains on Clomid if you are on cranberry at the same time and it does not increase your odds of conception anyway. It also makes CM dry and hostile which Clomid can also do (and did I mention, it doesn't work??).

[atomic sagebrush]

I don't mind dropping some sups saves on cost :highfive:I told the consultant what I was taking and she didn't seem to have a problem with them? But then I have just been reading something about clomid and thin womb lining that clomid makes it worse the nurse said on Friday that my lining was thin! Does the lining thin out coming up to af or can it stay thin until coming up to o?
Just noticed you replied to my thread too Thankyou.xx
Also that bleed I had last night has slowed to spotting this morning, I have been worrying that it was implantation bleed, but then my head is telling me that it cannot be as nurse said lining was too thin

I answered this in another thread I believe, but if am recalling your situation correctly, the time in your cycle you were in you would HAVE a thin lining and the reason she told you that was to indicate you had not just ovulated and you were not about to, either.

I think you had a bleed from low estrogen which is in line with thin lining

[atomic sagebrush]

What does pink swayers going HT mean?

In the diet thread??? It means people who are still investigating whether they are going to sway or do IVF for gender selection, and thus they need a diet that is good for fertility but still a wee bit pink friendly if possible.

[Beautifulrainbow]

Thankyou atomic for your replying, to be on safe side I'm have now dropped all sups except for folic acid, but I might get some fiber as your pcos diet and other place talking about pcos reconmend fiber!
I have now been hanging around these sites and ttc since April, but I'm still trying to understand all the short hands, what does SMEP mean?
Also should I be worried about low estrogen is there anything I can do to improve this? If I should improve it? Should I talk the GP?

[maidentomother]

I disagree somewhat with atomic's Clomid/BD plan. My suggestion would be:

1st month: one attempt at positive OPK
2nd month: every 4 days
3rd month: every 3 days (much better than E4D + one attempt IMO)
4th month: every other day

[purple]

Thankyou atomic for your replying, to be on safe side I'm have now dropped all sups except for folic acid, but I might get some fiber as your pcos diet and other place talking about pcos reconmend fiber!
I have now been hanging around these sites and ttc since April, but I'm still trying to understand all the short hands, what does SMEP mean?
Also should I be worried about low estrogen is there anything I can do to improve this? If I should improve it? Should I talk the GP?

SMEP = Sperm meets egg plan. I think it is optimum timing to conceive, although it more boy friendly as it involves more attempts but if you are on your 6th cycle of clomid you would just want to get pregnant and the fact that you are on your 6th cycle of clomid would be a strong pink sway.

Low estrogen is probably from your PCOS so the clomid should help.

[maidentomother]

I thought PCOS typically caused high E2?

[purple]

I thought PCOS typically caused high E2?

I consulted Dr Google and it says "In slender women with PCOS it is common that estrogen levels are low".

[maidentomother]

Very interesting ty! I should have googled myself...but lately for some reason using Google (but not othe sites) crashes the browser app on my Android tablet. Oh irony.

[djmommy]

Very interesting ty! I should have googled myself...but lately for some reason using Google (but not othe sites) crashes the browser app on my Android tablet. Oh irony.

Hi Maiden! I haven't seen you for a while so I just wanted to say Hi! Hope that you are doing and feeling well. Are you back at TTC?

[maidentomother]

Hi DJ, thanks for asking. I'm not too well (usual) but getting a bit better than before. Yes currently TTC again, I'm 11dpo just waiting for AF, trying Clomid next cycle. Unfortunately I had bad timing this cycle.

Am I wrong in thinking I saw you got your BFP finally? How are you doing?

[mt9178]

Feeling bummed but moving on with positive vibes for next month. I finally had a good cd21 number of 20 last month but between Christmas, family visiting and a DH that did not feel well, our attempts were not well timed. AF showed up this am so I am on to month 4 of 100mg Clomid.

I was planning on E3D but worry that I should do every other day as not comfortable being on clomid so long...thoughts?

[djmommy]

Hi DJ, thanks for asking. I'm not too well (usual) but getting a bit better than before. Yes currently TTC again, I'm 11dpo just waiting for AF, trying Clomid next cycle. Unfortunately I had bad timing this cycle.

Am I wrong in thinking I saw you got your BFP finally? How are you doing?

I hope you are getting yourself well. Ill be praying that the clomid works wonderfully for you. Have you ever taken it?
Yes, can you believe I finally got my BFP!! 24 cycles. I am 18 weeks. I had the Harmony Test and it said I am having a girl, much to my surprise! I am sooo very happy. I do have an anatomy u/s tomorrow so hopefully I will get a good look at her and she will indeed be a girl!! LOL

[Boyzmommy]

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[atomic sagebrush]

I disagree somewhat with atomic's Clomid/BD plan. My suggestion would be:

1st month: one attempt at positive OPK
2nd month: every 4 days
3rd month: every 3 days (much better than E4D + one attempt IMO)
4th month: every other day

Ok. I'm seriously not intending to quibble at all, I'm just going to mention why I do it that way.

I like people to have the option of doing each tactic for a month or two as per their choice. I think going from 1 attempt at pos to doing boy-friendly frequency to get pregnant by the 4th month is not enough time since many times people need a month just to figure it out or something might go wrong, like hubby has a late night at work or something. I feel good about this schedule, I've used it for years and only a couple of people have failed to get pregnant on the Clomid this way. Plus, it leave you guys with the option of moving up the schedule at any point in time, you can just decide to scoot along to the next option after only a month or even sooner.

Personally I do not like every 3 days with Clomid, unless you're doing it with one attempt at positive, because I do not think it always ups odds of conception by very much. I feel every 4 days plus one is better because most people end up with 2 good attempts in fertile window that way. Every 3 days is fine to play with when you have more than 6 months on the Clomid but on Clomid we only have the 6 months max to goof around with and thus I like to preserve those months for my fave methods that seem to work best for people. Every 3 days plus one attempt is good for odds of conception but can sometimes end up being 3 attempts in fertile window.

I don't want anyone DTD every other day. If you're ready to pull the trigger on getting pregnant, then do SMEP. Every other day just raises odds of blue without really increasing odds of conception that much. It's like the worst of both worlds in a lot of ways. You can easily end up with atempt on O-2 and O day, which is not any better than e4d or e3d plus one. SMEP is here Sperm Meets Egg Plan (http://www.pregnancyloss.info/sperm_meets_egg_plan.htm)

[atomic sagebrush]

Feeling bummed but moving on with positive vibes for next month. I finally had a good cd21 number of 20 last month but between Christmas, family visiting and a DH that did not feel well, our attempts were not well timed. AF showed up this am so I am on to month 4 of 100mg Clomid.

I was planning on E3D but worry that I should do every other day as not comfortable being on clomid so long...thoughts?

If you're ready to get pregnant, do SMEP.

[atomic sagebrush]

I thought PCOS typically caused high E2?

Can go either way. Some people have high, some low.

[Beautifulrainbow]

Movedmy discussion onto new thread as I'm getting lost here!

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you. It makes it easier when you guys just start your own thread with your own questions in them and save these for more general, un-individual questions.

[kaseybaby]

Clomid 5o mg 3-7 IUI had a baby girl

[amelia10]

Oh interesting thread, my doc prescribed Clomid for me so going to start in January from day 3 to 7, is it better to start on month then come off it and attempt? Or just stay on it till u get bfp ... Sorry so much info on this and trying to get my head around it. Also does anyone know is it ok to take if dh is on antidepressants?

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[purple]

You can take it up to 6 months in a row but most women conceive before that or move on to.something else. You could probably just stay on it for serveral cycles as it would have the best sway factor. If you do take a cycle off then the following month can sway too but I would at least do a couple in a row first.

You husband being on anti depressants would not be a problem.

[amelia10]

Thank u purple for your quick reply x

ok will start in January. I'm just wondering do you keep up all the other sway tactics aswell, I've been doing Le on and off last 6 months, one attempt, antihistamines on & off, and some ky jelly.

Also does the more Clomid you take mean increased chances of multiples, going to start on 50 mg

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[rainbowflower]

oh, there are 2 big clomid threads? will post the link to my clomid-specific stats spreadsheet here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qen0tpc24zckap5/pink-clomid.xls?dl=0

I won't be maintaining it, but it's useful as a snapshot of stats at this point

[amelia10]

Thank u rainbowflower, very useful indeed! I will definitely be incorporating Clomid in my sway x

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[atomic sagebrush]

Oh interesting thread, my doc prescribed Clomid for me so going to start in January from day 3 to 7, is it better to start on month then come off it and attempt? Or just stay on it till u get bfp ... Sorry so much info on this and trying to get my head around it. Also does anyone know is it ok to take if dh is on antidepressants?

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I'm not totally sure I understand this question, you need to take Clomid only in months you are planning to try, not before you try.

You only take Clomid for 5 days, you do not take it till you get a BFP.

What your husband brings to the table is separate from what the Clomid does.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank u purple for your quick reply x

ok will start in January. I'm just wondering do you keep up all the other sway tactics aswell, I've been doing Le on and off last 6 months, one attempt, antihistamines on & off, and some ky jelly.

Also does the more Clomid you take mean increased chances of multiples, going to start on 50 mg

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No, you don't keep doing all that stuff. Most people will drop jelly and antihistamine.

Start off with one attempt but over time you will need to go to e4d, then e4d plus one at pos OPK (or e3d although I do not like that as well) and then to SMEP at some point.

Yes, more Clomid = higher chance of multiples and you should not take more than the amount given to you by your doctor. Most use 50

[Pink1980]

Hi everyone im on clomid this cycle . We dtd day 9 and 10 . It is now day 14 and im ovulating !! and really painful left side . should I dtd again or leave it ? trying for pink !
Thanks

[XXforhubby]

I would keep having attempt every 4 days all cycle long, if you can. Clomid is notorious for causing delayed ovulation even when having ovulation symptoms or getting positive opks.

FX and GL to you!



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[Nurseandi]

I am getting Clomid to use when we TTC in the Spring. Is it worth getting OPKs as well? I have not used them in the past so it would be a little of a learning curve. I know that Clomid gives a false positive and have read that you ovulate a certain number of days after the last Clomid.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi everyone im on clomid this cycle . We dtd day 9 and 10 . It is now day 14 and im ovulating !! and really painful left side . should I dtd again or leave it ? trying for pink !
Thanks

Yes, you need(ed) to DTD again. That is by far too long a cutoff to yield pregnancy even under ideal circumstances and on Clomid is not ideal circumstances.

[atomic sagebrush]

I am getting Clomid to use when we TTC in the Spring. Is it worth getting OPKs as well? I have not used them in the past so it would be a little of a learning curve. I know that Clomid gives a false positive and have read that you ovulate a certain number of days after the last Clomid.

Most people do end up using them if for no other reason than that your O day is really unpredictable on Clomid.

You have to be careful not to start using the OPK too soon - wait 3 days after your last dose and then start testing on the 4th day.

Most people will not ovulate till 5 days after the last dose and it's usually more like between 5-10. That having been said you do NOT NOT NOT always O on X day after taking it (and i know some doctors will tell people that) and sometimes people have waited weeks for O after Clomid. You can't just BD on a certain day even if your doctor or a website tells you that - either we need to be in with regular attempts (such as e4d) or else doing opk.

[Houseofblue]

Atomic, I am thinking of trying w/clomid. Dh and I are prob going to ttc this yr. I went to an RE recently to have my hormones checked b/c I had 1 wacky cycle. My AMH is VERY high, FSH in mid-7's. After researching, it seems very high AMH, esp at later age, means pcos, but I've always been very fertile and have no signs of pcos (other than high AMH). I had a high AFC too.
Anyway, I want to try to get clomid to sway. I know you have said it's not as good for 35+ gals, but I don't think it will be an issue for me since with such a high AMH and AFC I should respond, right? I just wanna try everything since this will probably be our last time ttc.

[atomic sagebrush]

It's not that, it is your FSH. Yours is midrange, Clomid may make it go up which will in turn decrease egg quality but usually this takes a few months. I would have you go onto atomic fertility diet in this thread 5 from the top http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/9052-swaying-under-special-circumstances-part-3-pcos.html I would also recommend ultrasound monitoring if poss to be sure you're not hyperovulating BUT be aware that the only set of Clomid triplets we have had, was in a woman who was being monitored. Her dr. told her there was one follicle but apparently there were at least 3. So know going in that monitoring is not a surefire multiple prevention.

[Houseofblue]

Thanks atomic!! Wow, ok. But do you think clomid will work for me since I'm ama? I want to do everything I can to sway. Is it pretty safe? If the clomid makes my FSH go up, does that mean if I try to ttc naturally after (if clomid doesn't work), will it mess up my fertility. So scared to mess with things but also willing to do whatever I can since time is running out!

ETA: What do you think would be a good dosage for someone like me?

Thanks in advance atomic!!! :)

[atomic sagebrush]

It will go back down once you stop the Clomid. I used to be more of a stickler about this but I have seen several docs prescribing it anyway and people conceiving on it so I have relaxed a bit about it now. It seems to be something that is ok most of the time but just not always.

Femara is better option though so if that is on the table and you have the choice, choose Femara. It actually seems just as pink friendly if not more so than the Clomid.

I always suggest 50 mg for everyone.

[Houseofblue]

Thank you SO much Atomic for all the advice!!!

[lea]

hello to everyone, I bought the clomid and I will try TTC at the beginning of December. The active ingredient is clomiphene citrated right? in the past they had found a cyst
Functional lutein has been re-absorbed spontaneously. I wondered there might be contraindications with clomid and cysts. I am a little bit worried. some experience? Thank you

[Houseofblue]

Hi guys, wanted to update this thread since the clomid threads really helped me when I was planning my sway. I swayed for months before my attempt but didn't do a strict sway until 2 to 3 months before attempt. Took clomid in Oct, 50mg, days 3-7, and got my bfp at the beginning of this month. Just found out yesterday it's twins! They are measuring a few days apart but doc didn't seem worried. Praying they stick and that I have at least 1 girl in there!!! Will update once I know gender.

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[Houseofblue]

hello to everyone, I bought the clomid and I will try TTC at the beginning of December. The active ingredient is clomiphene citrated right? in the past they had found a cyst
Functional lutein has been re-absorbed spontaneously. I wondered there might be contraindications with clomid and cysts. I am a little bit worried. some experience? Thank youWhen I had my viability ultrasound yesterday the tech said I had a cyst on my right ovary (I took clomid), but that it's totally fine. She said both eggs came from right ovary (it's twins). I wouldn't worry about cysts honestly, I would never have known I had a cyst...no pain or discomfort etc. In fact during my 2ww, all the jabs I had came from my left ovary. Weird!

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[BZMallory]

Hi everyone,

Well, my tubal reversal went great, both tubes are open, but I didn't get pregnant the very first month so the doctor perscribed clomid. I'm 37 (38 next month), and he wants it to happen for me soon so he wanted to give me a little boost. This is my 1st month on clomid 50 mg cd2-6ish, I started cd2, but it was really late at night (I took my pills around 10:30 each night). I don't think I'll get my bfp this month because everyone in the house had the stomach flu and I think we missed the window to try. It's ok though because we realized that if we do get pregnant this month, the baby would be due on the same day as one of our other kids, so we're ok trying again in January and putting some distance between the birthdays.

Anyway, enough rambling, here are my questions as one that is new to clomid. Which has a bigger impact on the chance of twins: the dosage or the days taken? What I mean is, will i have a better chance of twins if I take 50 mg earlier in the cycle, or if i took 100mg regardless of days taken, or some combination of the two? I'm trying to sway pink, and I'd love twin girls, but I like the odds of having at least one girl if I have twins.

Thoughts are appreciated.

[Houseofblue]

Hi everyone,

Well, my tubal reversal went great, both tubes are open, but I didn't get pregnant the very first month so the doctor perscribed clomid. I'm 37 (38 next month), and he wants it to happen for me soon so he wanted to give me a little boost. This is my 1st month on clomid 50 mg cd2-6ish, I started cd2, but it was really late at night (I took my pills around 10:30 each night). I don't think I'll get my bfp this month because everyone in the house had the stomach flu and I think we missed the window to try. It's ok though because we realized that if we do get pregnant this month, the baby would be due on the same day as one of our other kids, so we're ok trying again in January and putting some distance between the birthdays.

Anyway, enough rambling, here are my questions as one that is new to clomid. Which has a bigger impact on the chance of twins: the dosage or the days taken? What I mean is, will i have a better chance of twins if I take 50 mg earlier in the cycle, or if i took 100mg regardless of days taken, or some combination of the two? I'm trying to sway pink, and I'd love twin girls, but I like the odds of having at least one girl if I have twins.

Thoughts are appreciated.Hi there! I took 50mg, days 3-7 and got pg with twins first round... I'm currently 7 weeks.

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[BZMallory]

Hi there! I took 50mg, days 3-7 and got pg with twins first round... I'm currently 7 weeks.

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That's amazing!!! Congrats!

[Houseofblue]

That's amazing!!! Congrats!Thank u! So yes, it can happen on lowest dose. It's all about how your body reacts to the clomid I guess. I didn't have the horrible strong bloated painful ovulation that everyone talks about getting while on clomid, if I wasn't using opk's I wouldn't have known I ovulated. Also so far my pg symptoms have been almost nonexistent, save for extreme tiredness and occasional hot flashes or chills. No nausea at all. Now just praying they both stick and at least 1 is a girl. Good luck to you! My experience with clomid was great.

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[BZMallory]

Thank u! So yes, it can happen on lowest dose. It's all about how your body reacts to the clomid I guess. I didn't have the horrible strong bloated painful ovulation that everyone talks about getting while on clomid, if I wasn't using opk's I wouldn't have known I ovulated. Also so far my pg symptoms have been almost nonexistent, save for extreme tiredness and occasional hot flashes or chills. No nausea at all. Now just praying they both stick and at least 1 is a girl. Good luck to you! My experience with clomid was great.

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I didn't have that bloated ovulation this month either. My only symptom with clomid was a 6 day long headache. I'm prone to headaches and migraines anyway, and multiday isn't unheard of for me, but this one started the same day as my first dose and didn't go away until the day after my last pill. Other than that, I've felt fine and couldn't even tell you when I ovulated this month. That's great that your symptoms are so minimal. My boys were super easy, but i got sick with my daughter from the very beginning until i was 8 months or so. It was really crazy. I hope they both stick and you get your girl. The odds are better :) If you have a 50% chance of a girl with each baby, then you have a 75% chance of at least one girl. Good luck and keeps us posted.

[atomic sagebrush]

We don't know and PLEASE only take the amount prescribed to you.

100 mg unless you are in need of it and being monitored by ultrasound couldend up being triplets or more. Not worth the risk since you have a decent chance of twins anyway

[Houseofblue]

Just an update, just had scan and baby B doesn't have a hb. :((((( Stopped growing at 8w. Baby looks great and has great hb.
Gutted.

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[Houseofblue]

Sorry that should have said baby A looks great and has great hb.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Oh HoB I'm so sorry to hear this. :( Hugest condolences. :heart:

[atomic sagebrush]

Since we have SO many Clomid support threads going now, I have started a new one which you can access here:

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-girl/62449-new-2018-clomid-support-thread.html#post959691

That way we can keep all our support and questions together under one roof for 2018!