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Coccinelle33
March 14th, 2011, 07:24 PM
Thought I would make a spin off for you girls over here... :wink:


For me bd around ovulation lots of ewcm or very wet cm. I also was drinking lots of apple, orange, pineapple juice, and green tea. Tons of water. No milk, soda, or coffee ever. I always ate breakfast and had something to eat every night before bed (a few hours after dinner). Stayed my same weight. Lot's of to go food, frozen food, and soups. I would eat small meals all the time. Never really felt real hungry. I also took b-complex and Robitussin with my first 2 boys. Dh eat lot's of red meat and not a lot of chicken and things like yellow rice, potatoes, and black beans.

Hope it helps!

TTC5
March 14th, 2011, 07:53 PM
Thankyou!!!! Did you sway for your boys, can I ask :)

Coccinelle33
March 14th, 2011, 09:42 PM
no i never swayed for any of my boys. i had 2 boys and then swayed for a girl the last 3 times. (the second sway which ended up being a boy was a few weak short sway).

TTC5
March 14th, 2011, 10:12 PM
All the best for your next girl!!!

Juniebjones
March 14th, 2011, 10:18 PM
SALT!!! MEAT!!! Tomatoes!!! Too many high and low sugar levels (I was eating a lot of sweets) and not losing weight before trying to conceive. I tend to be more alkaline too.

How shall I ever be able to give up my salt??? lol... I am going to just have to drink a lot of milk and eat a lot of yogurt with xylitol...

Coccinelle33
March 14th, 2011, 11:29 PM
i forgot the salt thing. i salt everything. i love salt!

Another princess
March 14th, 2011, 11:41 PM
I conceived my son it in winter/Christmas so had the central heating up high = postive ions. As it was xmas was eating alot more than normal - lots of meats, soups and stews, mince pies, chocs and wine and snacking alot. Probably gained a few lbs before. Was taking multi vits with cod liver oil in. Going to the gym and swimming, bd over ovulation. Goodluck ladies. Have all my blue dust x

ELP
March 15th, 2011, 06:44 AM
Thankyou ladies xx Salt, it just keeps cropping up doesn't it!!

Orchid
March 15th, 2011, 09:53 AM
Just one boy but thought I would add. Was eating very healthy(meat , veggies, fruits, good grains); breakfast everyday; trying to lose weight slowly(a pound a week); bd on ovulation; interviewing for a new job; stressed.

twosweetlads
March 15th, 2011, 10:18 AM
Hi,
I have two boys without swaying.
Here's what I did Lots of EWCM. Tomatoe everything-ketchup, cheese and tom sandwhich or ham sandwhich for lunch. Chocolate and sugary snacks, sausages, mince, lots of fruit and veg, always snacking-grazing, ALWAYS breakfast cereal, yogurts daily. The first boy I was on hols so wine, swimming, eating out,beer had just been to a festival for three days so loads of conveaniance foods, take away food and beer. The next boy was just before Christmas so lots of chocolates, eating out, wine, party food. Both bd through ovulation and the second boy propped hips.

I hope this helps you I wish I had to follow this diet its way better than the girl one! x

atomic sagebrush
March 15th, 2011, 01:11 PM
DS 1 - I worked at a fast food restaurant and had roast beef sandwiches and fries and pop almost every day and they also sold chocolate chip cookies which I ate with great frequency! I drank the least amount of milk with him but I had a lot of milkshakes and cheese sauce and yogurts, and also milk tea every morning for breakfast. Was not taking prenatal or any vitamins. DH and I had not been going out for very long so we were both kind of "pent up" ;) so maybe a lot of EWCM and high sperm count. Yet we only DTD twice (we were trying to be good LOL). I"m almost certain it was the second time, I thought it was safe to DTD without protection. It was only like two days after AF, so I think I ovulated early that month and it may have been a long cutoff. I lay still for some time after we DTD but I did not O, then did a J&D.

Doing moderate exercise and getting LOTS of sunshine because I didn't have a car, and had walked everywhere all winter long, which I think made a huge difference because he was conceived in March, which is supposed to be a "girl month" but I was getting so much sunshine I think that it counteracted that. I was actively gaining weight because DH and I were going out to dinner a lot.

DS 2 - Of any of my boys, I think he is the one that really "should have" been a girl. We were really poor then, so I was eating/drinking TONS of dairy and simple carbs and not much protein, but no vitamins. Drinking coffee off and on, I remember it was very expensive because of some weird coffee famine that was going on and sometimes I couldn't afford it. I had recently lost some weight, but at that point I had been maintaining at my weight for a couple months and doing moderate exercise regularly with weights. He was conceived in October which is supposed to be a "boy" month. This was also a cutoff or a very early ovulation, because my husband changed his mind about TTC and I really had no hope of getting pregnant that month. Cannot remember about position or female O but I think I J&D because I usually did.

***Between DS 2 and 3, there was a 13 year age gap during which I got into REALLY good shape and became highly muscular.***

DS 3 - This was a classic boy sway only with tons of calcium. I ate high protein, high salt, lots of fruits and vegetables, tomatoes and potatoes all the time, tons of calories, nuts/avocado/cheese/dark chocolate every day, and I drank a lot of green and black tea and V-8 juice. Every night I would have a bedtime snack of either yogurt and blueberries or else whole grain cereal with a little bit of milk and blueberries. I was lactose intolerant at this point so I didn't drink a lot of milk, but I did eat 4 oz. of cheese along with my V-8 juice most days because it was an easy thing for me to eat at work and cheese and yogurt do not affect my stomach. I was also taking Tums pretty much every day because of heartburn and also taking prenatal vitamins with calcium and drinking calcium enriched OJ every day.

The reason why I could eat so much food is because I had a very difficult job at a dog kennel where I worked outside for 4-5 hours a day and got plenty of sunshine. It was very physical and I had to eat very regularly to get through the day. So I was doing pretty intense physical exercise but the sheer amount of calories I was eating kept me from losing weight. It was also a high stress job where I was always taking on and succeding at challenges. I was also taking fencing classes so getting a lot of competition in and I was extremely...interested in BD :oops: probably more than I had ever been before or since.

We BD frequently with female O but then the weekend I ovulated (I was much more knowledgeable by this point so I am 100% sure I did not ovulate early) my husband wasn't even at home, he had to go somewhere that weekend. Prob. a 2 day cutoff (which was the only swaying I knew about at that point). The BD that I believe got me pregnant, I Oed and laid there afterwards, but there were others where I Oed and J&D.

It took us 2 months to get pregnant and I gained 3 lbs between the first month and the second.

DS 4 - Failed pink sway baby. I had just lost a ton of weight while breastfeeding and was not ovulating (was taking vitex and 100 mg B6 to try and rectify this). I took a month off to try and regain a few pounds so I could relose them again as part of my pink sway and so I wasn't being very strict with my diet that month, but I was still doing pretty well and not eating much protein. I did have breakfast a few times and ate more salt.

The day that I must have ovulated, I went to my nephew's birthday party and had a large amount of vegetarian pizza and pop and birthday cake, and then the next day was my son's birthday and I ate deli meat and more cake and pop (none of which I had been eating before.) I gained 3 lbs that month (3 pounds seems to be my magic number), and interestingly, even when I had been at my thinnest, I still had a LOT of muscle mass left over from when I was in very good shape, even though I was not exercising at all.

I was taking megadoses of calcium, magnesium, Vit. D, and B6 plus a prenatal and LOT of folic acid because my DS 3 has spina bifida so I needed to prevent that from happening again.

Unfortunately for my sway, I managed to pop out two eggs before I even had AF and managed to get pg with both of them, but I lost one (which I believe was also a boy because it was a placenta previa which are more likely to be male). Since I thought I was safe because I hadn't had AF (everything I read made it sound like getting pg without having AF when breastfeeding is extremely rare), when we BD I wasn't using protection and I didn't do anything like antihistamine or jump and dump. I am fairly sure that the time I conceived, I laid there afterwards and went to sleep. We were BD quite a bit because we were trying to get pregnant, but I was secretly trying to avoid when I thought I might be fertile, so it was kind of patchy, like three times in a row and then nothing for 5 days (prob. perfect for boy LOL).

My husband wouldn't do anything to sway so I basically relied on diet. I wouldn't change anything now but I do wonder what would have happened if I even would just have taken an antihistamine...I didn't notice copious amounts of EWCM so I don't know if I would have timed it right.

I was also totally obsessed with swaying, getting into arguments pretty much every day on IG, and also someone stole my son's tires and we knew who it was, so I drove around trying to follow them twice and then they came to my house and confronted me, so not exactly the calmest month ever for testosterone.

This conception was in March again and pretty much all the girls in my Due Date group were having girls. I REALLY think that the Vit. D I was taking made a huge difference there...that makes three out of 4 times I was either getting tons of sun or else taking Vit D. Food for thought.

TTC NOW - I'm probably not going to TTC again but I did want to share one more observation. I gained 70 lbs with DS 4 and then I lost it all again and THIS time I have found that I did lose muscle mass, quite a lot of it really. So if you've recently had a baby and are back at your normal weight, take care that you haven't lost a lot of muscle even if you're just at your regular weight.

ETA - except for that I DID TTC again and got a girl, and if you want to read my sway it's here http://genderdreaming.com/forum/girl-sway-results/9388-atomics-stealth-sway-updated-july-20-a.html

LolaInLove
March 15th, 2011, 02:30 PM
YOU LADIES ROCK!!!! Thanks for posting your tale, this is good stuff!

Coccinelle33
March 15th, 2011, 03:40 PM
i thought i would post some typical things i would eat day to day. i always try and figure out what all girls moms were eating so hopefully this helps some one....

breakfast-

whole wheat bagel and cream cheese

cereal

grits

fried potatoes

veggie sausage on an english muffin and cheese (for meat eaters i think real sausage would be better)

oatmeal

fruit salad


lunch-

peanut butter and jelly sandwich with chips (for swaying i would drop the jelly)

veggie burger and fries with ketchup of course! (real burger would be much better)

grilled cheese with tomato and tomato soup

7 layer dip and chips (refried beans, lettuce, shredded cheese, sour cream (mixed with 1 pk taco seasoning), green chili peppers, black olives, and tomatoes.

pizza


dinner-

yellow rice and canned black beans with spanish seasoning, tomatoes, and garlic

spaghetti and garlic bread

baked potatoes with sour cream, salt, cajun seasoning, pepper, and butter and a veggie (something like carrots, lima beans, squash)

mashed potatoes with gravy (i don't eat meat but would make something like pork chops with gravy for my family)

cheesy potatoes- 1 bag of peeled potatoes cut up and boiled (still a little under cooked) 1 pt of heavy cream, 1 bag of shredded cheese 1/2 cup sour cream, 1 tsp of butter, and seasoning (salt, pepper, garlic, onion, red pepper) mix together and bake at 350 for about 40 min. 1/2 the cheese goes on top.

tacos


late night snack-

bagel bites

soup any kind but my fav was simply asia or ramen noodles

hot pockets

fries

frozen tacos

chips

drinks-

apple juice, water (from tap), orange juice every morning, grape juice, and pineapple juice (helps with cm)


if i think of anything else i will add it!

LolaInLove
March 15th, 2011, 03:45 PM
MD, did you sway for any of your kids?

Coccinelle33
March 15th, 2011, 04:06 PM
i swayed pink for my dd and then for my last son... i was starting a sway for boy #3 but had only been on a loose french gender diet along with calcium, magnesium, cranberry, and soy for 4 weeks and got pregnant. with my last son i was doing the ingender diet but i was still eating late at night and not skipping breakfast. i also started cheating in the 2 ww and around af. i stopped the lime douche after my m/c. that time i was also taking the wrong calcium, cranberry, and magnesium. i took 200 mg of soy as well. if i could go back and re-do it i would have stuck to the diet and not at breakfast or a snack at night and i would have done a cut off and kept up with the lime douche. with the sway for my dd i did a strict french gender diet for 8 months (no cheating ever) the same supplement plus vitex. we bd for 3 or 4 straight days in a row and had a 1 day cut off.

babydes56
March 15th, 2011, 05:42 PM
Thanks ladies, keep em coming!

ButterflyMama
March 15th, 2011, 08:21 PM
With my 3 boys... I didn't sway as I didn't know anything about it with my 1st (TWIN BOYS) I didn't even have a computer back then lol. I was working long hours from 5am-10pm hardly had time to eat, when I did it was take away! morning was just drinking coffee & juice as I rode the bus to work. skipped lunches & had big take away dinners or pub dinners with friends. when I concieved the twins with my then ex BF it was only a quicky (TMI) and I didn't even orgasamed but always a one to have lots of CM so that must of helped? And SALT.. omg I love my rock salt I salt heavy on everything even chocolate lol.

When I found out I was having twins they said I must of O twice that month... :) They will be 10yo in May.

with my next son.. again no computer still, didnt know about OPKs acidic/alkaline PH etc, timing DTD etc.. only read a small article in a magazine on a woman who ate certain foods to help have a girl.. they where mainly fruits like mangos, lemons, oranges, sour dough breads & milk... so ate those alot... my now hubby came down from the UK... we DTD and bam fell preg straight away!! so must of hit O days both times without knowing anything lol. I

Babushka
March 16th, 2011, 12:20 AM
Hi there, thought I would share too. I have one boy. I swayed for a girl, though - so a failed sway! The only sway method we used was the Shettles timing method (a four day cut-off with frequent BD from AF to four days before O - I charted for months and months beforehand!). Needless to say, I am grateful that sway didn't work because I have the sweetest little boy! Anyhow, this time I will not be relying on the timing method! SO what we did to get a boy? Well, I have to confess my partner and I are HUGE salt eaters. Esp my partner - he POURS it over everything! I am a constant snacker and can not do without my breakfast. Neither of us are big meat eaters, we prefer vegetarian or fish. We didn't eat many vegies, mostly salads and fish. We do have a lot of condiments though (sweet chilli sauce, mayo etc) - very unhealthy! This time we are really focusing on getting out salt intake down as I think that is key to our sway. We drank one coffee daily (and still do). I do produce a lot of EWCM each month naturally. At the time of conceiving our DS, I would say we were the fittest we have ever been. Every morning we would go for a either a swim/run/surf session. So looking back I would say I was quite fit and toned but not super muscley (didn't do weights). We were pretty stress free too. I hope this helps and happy to answer any questions too. I hope you all get your gender dreams answered! Babushka. xx

Babushka
March 16th, 2011, 12:22 AM
Oh sorry, one more thing! My partner would squeeze fresh lemon on nearly ALL his dinners too (loved it on his fish especially). He would literally suck on lemons as he loves sour flavours. Hope this helps too.

Tulips
March 16th, 2011, 01:27 AM
I had a very boy friendly diet
Breakfast was always coffee with cereal (no milk) or toast with marmite (high sodium)
Lunch was a bagel with avocado & tomato or veges and beef strips or an egg sandwich or a tuna sandwich with mayo and tabassco sauce
Dinner was mainly stirfrys with lots of beef and veges with a soy honey ginger marinade or worchestershire sauce or oyster sauce. Also lots of potatoes often with stock added and always salt to the water. Also tomato based pasta sauces, nachos, roasts. Always red meat with every dinner I am very anaemic constantly.
Red wine with dinner, potato chips, takeaways quite frequently as we were on the road a lot, we ran our own computer company from home so surrounded by computers and our bedroom was above the server room.
Drank V8, coke tomato juice and soda water with orange juice. I was gaining weight due to bad diet and stress. We had started our own company and stress levels were high. I was very competitive and loved to win.
Looking back it's amazing how boy friendly it all was, I have changed so much I hope it's enough.

Tulips
March 16th, 2011, 01:30 AM
I forgot to add, I never had EWCM when TTC the boys but did conceive first time with each of them, we DTD as soon as the OPK was + and through O my CM got to at the most watery with both.

LolaInLove
March 16th, 2011, 09:00 AM
Thank you so much for all of your input! We ttc blue crew are spreading the pink dust your way!!!

atomic sagebrush
March 16th, 2011, 10:14 AM
Just to throw this tidbit out again, high salt was found in BOTH the "You are what your mother eats" study (the "breakfast cereal" one that also found high calcium = more boys and seemed to partly debunk the French Gender diet) AND in the studies supporting the French Gender Diet. So I am inclined to believe high sodium = more boys.

LolaInLove
March 16th, 2011, 12:26 PM
Just to throw this tidbit out again, high salt was found in BOTH the "You are what your mother eats" study (the "breakfast cereal" one that also found high calcium = more boys and seemed to partly debunk the French Gender diet) AND in the studies supporting the French Gender Diet. So I am inclined to believe high sodium = more boys.
I would say that's without a doubt! Looks like every boy mama here dug some salt when she ttc her son!

Chunksta
March 16th, 2011, 09:21 PM
Thanks for the info... i'll put it all my my list!!!!
swaying is hard work, well not hard but it takes over my head!!!
want can i cant i eat,did i take all my sups today, and my temp, and check my CM am i close enough to O and will the OPK test show + argh the things we do!!!! ( In a good way)

TTC5
March 16th, 2011, 09:48 PM
LOL I am beginning to get used to it all now it is feeling very routine, but must say when we fall pregnant can not wait to ease of the darn salt, I am not a fan at all lol!

Coccinelle33
March 16th, 2011, 10:58 PM
lol it's so funny because my biggest issue with swaying is salt! im swaying girl and just hate hate hate that i cant have my salt or salty foods.

DoulaMama
March 17th, 2011, 12:15 AM
Well, I have 3 boys. #2 and #3 are Shettles success!! Not that we were trying.....LOL! We did the deed right on the day of ovulation(I get Mittelschmerz) so I knew exactly when I was ovulating. My first was an oops while I was on the pill and also antibiotics. Not sure if that has any bearing or not. Here's a list of things that I could think of in regards to me getting BLUE so many times:)
1. Always eat breakfast-cereals etc- every morning.
2. I was 30lbs overweight when I conceived my first and 40lbs overweight with next 2 kiddos.
3. I LOVE salt:) And candies...and chocolate...and anything yummy which is why I'm 40lbs overweight!LOL
4. I was working in a TV studio 9 hrs a day when I got pregnant with #1 and a SAHM with the next 2 kids...so lots of + ions around me all the time. I'm also in Alberta, Canada and inside for 6+ months of the year.
5. My hubby is one of 4 boys.
6. I DTD on O day for 2 of them. Missionary and doggy;) LOL
7. I eat lots of fruits and vegies, red meats 3 days a week, not too much dairy but some milk. I stay away from sweeteners, etc. I'm very alkaline.
8. I haven't had my testo. tested yet but I don't think I'm too high. I am a very outspoken person and I did read an article that stated that higher testo= outgoing/loud personality......which is me...which makes sense. All of my girlfriends that are meak/quiet have girls. All of my friends that are outspoken etc have boys!
9. TONS of EWCM around O. With #2 + #3 I was nursing. I had very wacky cycles- around 40+ days long but because I was checking CM and also CP I could tell I was ovulating. I ovulated on CD21 with boy #3:)
10. Another thing- I have wanted 4 kids since...a long time. My hubby was adamant on 3. If #3 had been a girl we would not be even thinking about #4. I just have this feeling that my 4 kiddos are supposed to be here and this is the reason I got my beautiful son last year. My hubby knows how desperate I am to try for a girl and has really come around to the idea of trying again. Even though we know it's not 100%, at least I know that all my children with be with me no matter the sex.
If I think of any more I'll let you know!
J

LolaInLove
March 17th, 2011, 09:19 AM
DoulaMama, thanks for sharing! I just had to comment on your feeling that you were going to have 4.....I have ALWAYS felt that I would have 3 kids...if I had a pigeon pair, I'd be more apt to not want more, but I've always had this feeling that I'd have 2 girls and 1 boy (I even wrote a story about it in 2nd grade with their names!). I hope you get your daughter!!! GL everyone!!!

Zivic-Bubac
March 19th, 2011, 05:53 PM
Thank you so much for all of your input! We ttc blue crew are spreading the pink dust your way!!!

Exactly!:)

Zivic-Bubac
March 19th, 2011, 06:05 PM
[QUOTE=atomic sagebrush;1366 high calcium = more boys .[/QUOTE]

This part really confuses me...We all know Ca is a big no-no on IG and also there is Dutch study ( also can be found on IG) that showed direct connection between Ca blood levels and conception of girls. I was practically living on dairy when I conceived my 2 girls.
My sister has 1 boy (only child) and we have very similar eating habits, she likes dairy as much as I do and has yoghurt daily and milk in coffee. Only diff is cup of green tea in the morning and she never skipped brekkie, but often has large cup of yoghurt or soured milk with bread etc.
Maybe one should take excessive amounts of Ca for boy?:confused:

atomic sagebrush
March 20th, 2011, 12:10 PM
I'm just not convinced about the calcium. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?609-the-calcium-conundrum-CONTROVERSIAL&highlight=calcium+conundrum

The people who did that Dutch study are selling their swaying methods. I take that study with a very very big grain of salt. First of all it was a pretty tiny sample size. Secondly, you can't take people and tell them "eat this and you will get this result" and then judge the results, that's not scientific, because as we ALL know that diet is harder than !@#!$# to stick to and we have no way of knowing if they even stuck to it (and that is admitted in the study itself). Self-reporting in studies is a huge no-no esp. when the subjects know in advance the "right" answer that the researchers are looking for. The subjects in that experiment knew in advance that they were supposed to be eating this diet, they reported that they were, but it is VERY possible that people fudged what they told the researchers because they knew what the researchers wanted to hear. Also, since these people all wanted girls, we also have no way of knowing if they did other things like douching or other swaying techniques that they did not mention to the researchers.

We also don't really know if the calcium itself had anything to do with it at all, or if it was just a result of them changing their diet dramatically (they also cut out red meat, salt, etc.). Maybe it's not higher calcium, but lower sodium that sways. Maybe they ate less protein or their blood sugar levels were lower. ANY time people change their diet drastically it sends a message to their body that a different gender may have a better shot of survival. For some reason that I do not understand, they also studied timing at the same time, which simply complicates everything further.

The Oxford "You are what your mother eats" study http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/275/1643/1661.full was much better designed, had a much higher sample size, unbiased researchers (who were actually studying an entirely different thing and therefore had no personal interest in the results), and subjects who were not trying to conceive a child of a particular gender and had no motivation to fudge the results of their diet. This study found higher calcium intake in women who had sons. Also higher sodium. Higher sodium = boys is one area where these studies coincide and therefore I give that much more weight than the calcium.

I have seen too many opposites both on IG and IRL, women who eat tons of calcium (and in fact were swaying pink) conceiving boys and then women who eat nothing but salad and iced tea having girls, and everything in between. I'm not saying that the French Diet is wrong and we should get rid of it, I just do not want anyone to rely solely on cutting out calcium to sway blue because I do not think it is 100% reliable as a swaying technique.

Coccinelle33
March 21st, 2011, 12:57 PM
im not even sure what the heck i believe anymore.... im just not salting anything and trying to eat low fat and more dairy. im so lost.

lightofmylife
March 21st, 2011, 01:39 PM
i can believe more salt can results in having boys but no calcium no boy , i cant believe it.................. i never had too much Ca in my whole life and having 2 girls, no dairy..... my frd just had 2nd girl and she never had milky product in her whole life, can u imagine?? but she also had not have much salt.

LolaInLove
March 21st, 2011, 02:06 PM
Is the vitamin D, the protein, and the nutrients what makes dairy sway boy? That is what I am starting to think. Those who had lots of "dairy" may have in fact had lots of testosterone-raising vitamin D, lots of protein, and other nutrients from full fat dairy products, and maybe the reverse is true. So, it's not the CALCIUM in the dairy, its the other stuff that sways one way or another. Have fat free and artificial sugar dairy and that sways pink, full fat sways blue......am I on the right track here, Atomic?

LolaInLove
March 21st, 2011, 02:10 PM
i can believe more salt can results in having boys but no calcium no boy , i cant believe it.................. i never had too much Ca in my whole life and having 2 girls, no dairy..... my frd just had 2nd girl and she never had milky product in her whole life, can u imagine?? but she also had not have much salt.

Sounds to me like you were like me and TTC5.....we barely ate anything. I think 3pinkneedblue had a pretty scarce diet as well, and we all have girls galore. It's not so much the dairy in your diet, it's your diet in and of itself, that you don't eat much....your body thinks it's famine time so makes girls. Don't know about your friend's diet, but the salt seems to be a real factor pointing to boys....and people that eat salty and salt stuff tend to not be the giant dieters, know what I mean? That may be a gross generalization, and not saying they are/were fat or anything, just that I watch my salt big time when I was in my eating scarce/dieting time.

swish
March 21st, 2011, 02:25 PM
We dtd through o for both our boys, every day for ds1 and every other day for ds2. I'm generally a naturally healthy eater, I never miss breakfast and am never really hungry! I don't eat much salt but do add a little bit when cooking. I eat a lot of tomatoes and potatoes. I don't drink milk at all, I really only drink water, juice in the evening and red wine!! I was at my thinnest when conceiving both boys and was quite fit. Don't know if any of that helps, good luck to all!

atomic sagebrush
March 23rd, 2011, 01:02 PM
Is the vitamin D, the protein, and the nutrients what makes dairy sway boy? That is what I am starting to think. Those who had lots of "dairy" may have in fact had lots of testosterone-raising vitamin D, lots of protein, and other nutrients from full fat dairy products, and maybe the reverse is true. So, it's not the CALCIUM in the dairy, its the other stuff that sways one way or another. Have fat free and artificial sugar dairy and that sways pink, full fat sways blue......am I on the right track here, Atomic?

EXACTLY. I also think that it may have nothing to do with calcium at all and may be the sodium. The French diet was never tested one aspect at a time, they women who wanted girls the high cal-mag low salt diet, and women who wanted boys the low cal-mag and high sodium/potassium foods. No control group. The diets themselves may have been what swayed and the minerals have nothing to do with it. The Dutch study did the exact same thing only even more convoluted because they threw timing in there too.

Honestly, I'm not trying to deter anyone from using minerals as a PART of their sway but I just want as many people as possible to get their baby and figure out the best and most reliable way of doing that.

If you guys knew how little and unscientifically these things had been tested...

Freya
March 23rd, 2011, 03:19 PM
The meaning of the Dutch study, as far as I understood it, was to test the minerals and timing theories, basically, because both are quite heavily debated but not thoroughly researched. However, instead of the previous studies where women just reported the diet, they only counted women as "girl swayers" if they managed to change their blood levels of calcium and sodium above and below certain levels (they transferred both blood values into a formulae for where the right levels gave girls). So I suppose their intent was to remove the bias that comes from reporting a diet. Also, the timing was cervix check, OPK and charting with BBT, instead of just one of these.

You can always argue against studies of course. For instance, you could argue that women who have naturally more testosterone eat more food and more nutrients, as some sort of biological reflex, and have more boys regardless. You can argue that when you change something in a biological system, you will therefore change something else, and therefore there are too many hidden factors to draw any conclusions about anything.

3Pink1Blue
March 23rd, 2011, 03:29 PM
I think 3pinkneedblue had a pretty scarce diet as well

Very scarce, no more then 300 cals at a single sitting max of 1800 cals per day while burning 600-800 cals per day with excercise. I was ALWAYS hungry.

TTC5
March 23rd, 2011, 10:14 PM
With this Vit D, it sways blue does it?

atomic sagebrush
March 24th, 2011, 10:27 AM
The meaning of the Dutch study, as far as I understood it, was to test the minerals and timing theories, basically, because both are quite heavily debated but not thoroughly researched. However, instead of the previous studies where women just reported the diet, they only counted women as "girl swayers" if they managed to change their blood levels of calcium and sodium above and below certain levels (they transferred both blood values into a formulae for where the right levels gave girls). So I suppose their intent was to remove the bias that comes from reporting a diet. Also, the timing was cervix check, OPK and charting with BBT, instead of just one of these.

You can always argue against studies of course. For instance, you could argue that women who have naturally more testosterone eat more food and more nutrients, as some sort of biological reflex, and have more boys regardless. You can argue that when you change something in a biological system, you will therefore change something else, and therefore there are too many hidden factors to draw any conclusions about anything.

We may just have to agree to disagree on this one and that is fine. :happy: I appreciate your questioning and offering a different opinion and that is very welcome and valued. :agree:

I don't want to deter anyone from including/excluding calcium as a part of a sway (although I do think it ~may~ hurt blue swayers to eliminate calcium all together). I am certainly not the font of all knowledge and I could very well be wrong on this, but since so many other sources of swaying info totally accept without question the French Diet and base everything upon it, someone needs to look at it with a critical eye and really see if it measures up.

I'm not trying to argue or pick a fight but I did want to speak to a couple of points real quick.

First of all, a well-designed study does not test for more than one thing. A well-designed study focuses on ONE variable alone. That they added in timing as well...I wonder about the reasons why they might have done that. The fact is DOZENS of good, thorough studies have been done on timing and there really was no need for another one, whereas there really do need to be (many) more studies done on maternal diet. It makes me wonder why they felt the need to do that. Was it because the purpose of the study was solely to support their program that they are selling (which to my understanding is timing and minerals)? Was it because they didn't get the results they were hoping for and they wanted to confuse the issue? According to their data, those who got timing correct and diet incorrect had more boys. If mineral levels are what is swaying, shouldn't the opposite be true? (small sample size, but the entire study was a small sample size).

The blood-levels of calcium - yes, they tested the levels of calcium in the blood and found very small increases/decreases in the mineral levels, as one would expect if you had been following this particular diet. We don't know that it means anything other than that they were on some weird diet. We don't know if the women with the highest levels of calcium were following the diet strictly or if their levels of calcium were higher because of some biological reason or even because they HADN'T been following the diet so 10 minutes before they went to have their blood checked they popped some calcium supplements. Your body doesn't like or want high levels of calcium in the blood and takes steps to get rid of the calcium - people don't walk around with elevated levels of calcium in the blood unless they have something seriously wrong with them. Everyone's blood-calcium levels go up immediately after taking a supplement or eating calcium-rich foods, and then the body excretes as much calcium as it possibly can trying to get rid of the stuff. Besides that, there is still no proof that these mineral levels were what sway at all. ANY time you change your diet you send a signal to your body that something has changed and a child of a different gender may be a better "bet".

Please understand, I'm not blindly arguing against studies. I argue against the idea that minerals ALONE are the only/best way to sway, because I saw tons of people who were taking all the right supps and eating the IG diet (and these are people who I totally believe were eating that way because they had serious GD) having opposites. And because I always ate tons of calcium and have 4 boys and my mom never eats calcium and has 2 girls and a boy. When I started to look into swaying in preparation for my sway I found that the Oxford study (which was a well-designed and unbiased study not done by people who were looking for a particular outcome) found a higher intake of calcium = more boys and I realized that most people around the world can't even eat dairy products and yet the ratio of boys/girls born is pretty close to 50-50 worldwide. And people couldn't even DIGEST dairy foods until 15,000 years ago and yet both men and women were born. Given this, it seems highly unlikely that massive calcium intake is required for conceiving a particular gender.

The Dutch study referenced the Oxford study (moms of boys ate more sodium and potassium) but LEFT OUT the part that did not support their conclusion. (moms of boys also ate more calcium).

People can and do make that argument against maternal body condition swaying. In fact the researcher who came up with the idea of testosterone affecting gender ratio believes that maternal body condition has nothing to do with anything, it's entirely that females high in testosterone have access to better foods. Then the researcher who supports the blood glucose levels presents studies that refute that idea. It goes round and round but the net result is more and better information.

Anyway, this is a roundabout way of saying what I always say, I don't think enough study has been done to conclude that cal-mag sways pink in every instance and sod-pot swaying blue in every instance and no one should rely solely on the idea of minerals to sway. You can have a great sway while following the mineral recommendations and also keeping blood glucose levels low and lowering testosterone.

atomic sagebrush
March 24th, 2011, 10:30 AM
With this Vit D, it sways blue does it?

I believe it sways blue by raising testosterone.

Others will tell you it sways pink because it helps your body absorb calcium.

LolaInLove
March 24th, 2011, 11:00 AM
I want to add that I don't think it's good for your fertility to not have some calcium in your system....I am not a study in and of itself, and I am 35, but let me just point this out: when I started swaying in August last year, I had 4 months of ZERO calcium, and I mean as little as humanly possible, and no bfp....and I am usually as fertile as they come. The month I added calcium foods back in, bam- bfp. Although I had a m/c, this next month we tried (still with calcium), BAM- another bfp. Makes me wonder......

TTC5
March 24th, 2011, 07:18 PM
Lola - very interesting indeed!
Me being dairy intolerant I do not get much calcium that way do you think I should be adding some calcium some other ways? I just do not know!??
I do know, with all 4 of my girls, (before finding out my intolerance!!) that I consumed ALOT of dairy in all shape and form: milk, cheese, yoghurt, chocolate, custards, sour cream, I also ate brocolli every day lol this has calcium doesn't it?

LolaInLove
March 25th, 2011, 09:07 AM
Yes, you did eat a lot of calcium, but you have to look at your lifestyle overall, your diet overall....did you eat a lot of meat? I remember you saying you didn't have a hearty diet, so that was probably more of the reason why your body chose to make girls. I just know that I am so used to eating calcium foods (my mom has early osteoporosis, so I have always been diligent about preventing it in myself). Not like I used to overload on calcium or anything, but suddenly taking it out of my diet seemed to mess with my body, but that may just be coincidence. I mean, this past sway, I was having just small, normal amounts of dairy, like some almond milk in morning cereal, some half and half in morning coffee, some cheese on top of my spaghetti, stuff like that, but I still haven't gone to drinking huge glasses of milk and eating yogurt and the like. What was important to me is getting the nutrients and protein from the dairy products.

atomic sagebrush
March 25th, 2011, 12:12 PM
Lola - very interesting indeed!
Me being dairy intolerant I do not get much calcium that way do you think I should be adding some calcium some other ways? I just do not know!??
I do know, with all 4 of my girls, (before finding out my intolerance!!) that I consumed ALOT of dairy in all shape and form: milk, cheese, yoghurt, chocolate, custards, sour cream, I also ate brocolli every day lol this has calcium doesn't it?

I think you're just fine with what you're eating TTC, no worries. As long as you're eating more of most nutrients (esp. salt and protein) than you were before, if you cut back on calcium you can have the peace of mind knowing that you're sticking with the traditional sway and you'll be swaying blue regardless of whether calcium is a magic pink bullet or not. It may even HELP you because as I well know, lactose intolerance can make food pass through your intestines quicker giving less time for nutrients to be absorbed.

Freya
March 25th, 2011, 12:35 PM
I want to add that I don't think it's good for your fertility to not have some calcium in your system....I am not a study in and of itself, and I am 35, but let me just point this out: when I started swaying in August last year, I had 4 months of ZERO calcium, and I mean as little as humanly possible, and no bfp....and I am usually as fertile as they come. The month I added calcium foods back in, bam- bfp. Although I had a m/c, this next month we tried (still with calcium), BAM- another bfp. Makes me wonder......

Strange, as the same thing happened for me. Six months of nothing except two chemicals, and when I switch to TW and go from 250mg to 600mg Ca I get a nice BFP the first month. I was ill a lot, too while on the alkaline diet because I was aiming for pH8-9 (this was before I reduced calcium, though, so alkalinity could have caused infertility too). Seriously, I wonder whether the gender diet is really supposed to be for people who really follow it?

Freya
March 25th, 2011, 01:05 PM
We may just have to agree to disagree on this one and that is fine. :happy: I appreciate your questioning and offering a different opinion and that is very welcome and valued. :agree:

I don't want to deter anyone from including/excluding calcium as a part of a sway (although I do think it ~may~ hurt blue swayers to eliminate calcium all together). I am certainly not the font of all knowledge and I could very well be wrong on this, but since so many other sources of swaying info totally accept without question the French Diet and base everything upon it, someone needs to look at it with a critical eye and really see if it measures up.

I'm not trying to argue or pick a fight but I did want to speak to a couple of points real quick.

First of all, a well-designed study does not test for more than one thing. A well-designed study focuses on ONE variable alone. That they added in timing as well...I wonder about the reasons why they might have done that. The fact is DOZENS of good, thorough studies have been done on timing and there really was no need for another one, whereas there really do need to be (many) more studies done on maternal diet. It makes me wonder why they felt the need to do that. Was it because the purpose of the study was solely to support their program that they are selling (which to my understanding is timing and minerals)? Was it because they didn't get the results they were hoping for and they wanted to confuse the issue? According to their data, those who got timing correct and diet incorrect had more boys. If mineral levels are what is swaying, shouldn't the opposite be true? (small sample size, but the entire study was a small sample size).

The blood-levels of calcium - yes, they tested the levels of calcium in the blood and found very small increases/decreases in the mineral levels, as one would expect if you had been following this particular diet. We don't know that it means anything other than that they were on some weird diet. We don't know if the women with the highest levels of calcium were following the diet strictly or if their levels of calcium were higher because of some biological reason or even because they HADN'T been following the diet so 10 minutes before they went to have their blood checked they popped some calcium supplements. Your body doesn't like or want high levels of calcium in the blood and takes steps to get rid of the calcium - people don't walk around with elevated levels of calcium in the blood unless they have something seriously wrong with them. Everyone's blood-calcium levels go up immediately after taking a supplement or eating calcium-rich foods, and then the body excretes as much calcium as it possibly can trying to get rid of the stuff. Besides that, there is still no proof that these mineral levels were what sway at all. ANY time you change your diet you send a signal to your body that something has changed and a child of a different gender may be a better "bet".

Please understand, I'm not blindly arguing against studies. I argue against the idea that minerals ALONE are the only/best way to sway, because I saw tons of people who were taking all the right supps and eating the IG diet (and these are people who I totally believe were eating that way because they had serious GD) having opposites. And because I always ate tons of calcium and have 4 boys and my mom never eats calcium and has 2 girls and a boy. When I started to look into swaying in preparation for my sway I found that the Oxford study (which was a well-designed and unbiased study not done by people who were looking for a particular outcome) found a higher intake of calcium = more boys and I realized that most people around the world can't even eat dairy products and yet the ratio of boys/girls born is pretty close to 50-50 worldwide. And people couldn't even DIGEST dairy foods until 15,000 years ago and yet both men and women were born. Given this, it seems highly unlikely that massive calcium intake is required for conceiving a particular gender.

The Dutch study referenced the Oxford study (moms of boys ate more sodium and potassium) but LEFT OUT the part that did not support their conclusion. (moms of boys also ate more calcium).

People can and do make that argument against maternal body condition swaying. In fact the researcher who came up with the idea of testosterone affecting gender ratio believes that maternal body condition has nothing to do with anything, it's entirely that females high in testosterone have access to better foods. Then the researcher who supports the blood glucose levels presents studies that refute that idea. It goes round and round but the net result is more and better information.

Anyway, this is a roundabout way of saying what I always say, I don't think enough study has been done to conclude that cal-mag sways pink in every instance and sod-pot swaying blue in every instance and no one should rely solely on the idea of minerals to sway. You can have a great sway while following the mineral recommendations and also keeping blood glucose levels low and lowering testosterone.

I'm not angry at all, in fact I enjoy a good debate :happy: .

I agree with you totally that minerals shouldn't be the only route to swaying. In fact, as I have posted somewhere else, I think the CM mucins are the key to swaying, and they are influenced by both hormonal levels and minerals. However, as you say, the body regulates its own mineral levels and pH, so large efforts to influence these will give very minor changes, but there seems to be some evidence that these minor changes make something happen.

The big problem with several interacting factors is that when people don't account for them in their studies, the studies become muddled. That, I think, is the biggest argument for including both diet and timing in a study: you don't control all the variables, but at least you control two. I'm absolutely convinced estrogen counteracts the effect of calcium because that is what happens on a cellular level in the mucus, and therefore, I believe it is totally necessary to account for both. Higher testosterone leads to higher estrogen effects, right? So, if you make a diet study, you would be a fool to ignore that estrogen peaks during the three days before O. If you do, you have ignored a confounder. In the end, they got quite a good fit for both values. The population was limited, I agree. But interestingly it was women who'd had only boys before, and the fact that they got their girls if they followed the instructions was promising. Of course, it could just have been their turn statistically, and that is the problem with the study.

In terms of good and bad studies, I personally think that statistics based on retrospective interviews of food intake are overrated. At least blood values is some sort of solid proof. Once they produce a nice cohort study, I will be happier :wink: .

BTW, leaving out data is just science's way of building an argument. There is no "truth" out there, but more like the most popular beliefs of the day. (sometimes scientist go on for decades ignoring data because some big-shot did back in the seventies). What I'm saying is, don't blame the scientist, blame the system. Science pretends to be truth but it came from philosophy and the roots are still there. The authors of the Dutch study probably had to ignore some aspects of the Oxford study to be able to publish.

atomic sagebrush
March 25th, 2011, 01:46 PM
Thank you!

ELP
March 25th, 2011, 02:42 PM
Now I do try and keep up with the science but I must admit I'm kind of v.basic understanding lol, but!!, if estrogen peaks 3 days before ov, then would a 3 day cut-off be a good shot for blue? And either way sodium and potassium are good for blue,

LolaInLove
March 25th, 2011, 03:39 PM
Strange, as the same thing happened for me. Six months of nothing except two chemicals, and when I switch to TW and go from 250mg to 600mg Ca I get a nice BFP the first month. I was ill a lot, too while on the alkaline diet because I was aiming for pH8-9 (this was before I reduced calcium, though, so alkalinity could have caused infertility too). Seriously, I wonder whether the gender diet is really supposed to be for people who really follow it?

Yep, my switch was really similar in terms of diet. I know every body is programmed to know when it is in a healthy state to conceive, and I just don't think mine perceived the IG diet as healthy for my system. And this bfp also came about with me adding a good amount of antioxidants to my routine in both supps and food as well.

And CONGRATS, Freya!

TTC5
March 26th, 2011, 05:55 AM
Lola what ways did you increase your antioxidants?

Freya
March 26th, 2011, 02:00 PM
Yep, my switch was really similar in terms of diet. I know every body is programmed to know when it is in a healthy state to conceive, and I just don't think mine perceived the IG diet as healthy for my system. And this bfp also came about with me adding a good amount of antioxidants to my routine in both supps and food as well.

And CONGRATS, Freya!

I totally agree, Lola. I suppose it must be different for different women how well the diet is tolerated. My body for sure didn't approve!
And congratulations to you too :) ! Talk about date closeness!

ELP, estrogen starts to rise three days before O, then peaks, which causes LH to surge, in turn forcing ovulation. That's where I think the whole three-day cut-off for the girl sway comes from. From what I've read, though it's better to wait until one day before O or try to be spot on. If you do a three day cut-off, you might counteract the effects of the boy diet, depending on how much "good" CM you've got of course. It's probably more crucial for girl swayers to be wary of EWCM, than the opposite, since boy swayers have a tendency to move "with nature". But that's just me hypothesising ;) .

Glittergirl
March 26th, 2011, 08:42 PM
We did typical boy diet as well! Dh and I ate lots of whole grains (never had white bread), rice, potatoes, tomato sauce/red sauce, pastas, red meat, chicken, fish. Lots of nuts, berries, fruits and veggies galore!!! I drink coffee once a day, black tea. NO DAIRY! I think this is what I need to diff now cause I HATE milk. cheese if fine, but how much cheese can you have per day. this is one area I think I was lacking and that is calcium!! i never had enough calcium. Dh and I work out a lot but I do weights and cardio. We only eat out once a week. Pretty consistent weight throughout my adult life. SALT on everything. And snack consisted of anything chcolate and salty. I love chips, crackers, pretzels, nuts, all that salty stuff! I hope this helps and you can have all my blue dust!

Glittergirl
March 26th, 2011, 08:44 PM
Oh yeah and with DS2 and DS3 we DTD after a few days abstaining at the first sign of +opk til O!

atomic sagebrush
March 27th, 2011, 03:13 PM
Now I do try and keep up with the science but I must admit I'm kind of v.basic understanding lol, but!!, if estrogen peaks 3 days before ov, then would a 3 day cut-off be a good shot for blue? And either way sodium and potassium are good for blue,

I don't believe a 3 day cutoff is good for blue regardless of hormones because of sperm count. Too many sperm may have died off and lower numbers of sperm seem to sway pink somehow, we know not why.

TTC5
March 27th, 2011, 06:42 PM
So what kind of cut off are we looking at? xx

atomic sagebrush
March 28th, 2011, 03:20 PM
I think the evening before O is probably best for blue provided that you have a lot of EWCM! No EWCM, no attempt.

TTC5
March 28th, 2011, 05:24 PM
Thanks Atomic, now.. how to pin point the day before... is this when your temp takes a drop??

Tulips
March 28th, 2011, 10:52 PM
What about watery? Both my boys I never got EWCM but I did have watery (no stretch)

ELP
March 29th, 2011, 08:04 AM
I think the evening before O is probably best for blue provided that you have a lot of EWCM! No EWCM, no attempt.

:agree:I did this, fingers X'ed!!

atomic sagebrush
March 29th, 2011, 12:55 PM
What about watery? Both my boys I never got EWCM but I did have watery (no stretch)

Watery is equivalent to fertile, EWCM and sways blue.

atomic sagebrush
March 29th, 2011, 01:01 PM
Thanks Atomic, now.. how to pin point the day before... is this when your temp takes a drop??

No, that is usually the day OF O. Not everyone's temp drops anyway (please see http://www.fertilityfriend.com/Faqs/Ovulation-Dip.html) and your temp may not consistently dip from month to month.

The best way to pinpoint the day before O is by fertility monitors, but you can also use OPKs (I would wait 6-12 hours after a positive OPK to DTD to ensure that you are not having a two day cutoff though!)

LolaInLove
March 29th, 2011, 01:08 PM
Lola what ways did you increase your antioxidants?

Lots of wheatgrass shots (from the local health food store's deli) and drank a green supplement I made myself every day, plus the Pynogenol, which is a pine bark extract that is an excellent antioxidant. Actually, I believe Freya is the one who suggested that on IG after my chemical in January. Looks like it worked! But with the antioxidants come a lot of good nutrients for a blue sway. I think the boy diet on the whole is pretty antioxidizing for the body with all of the fruit and veggies.

Freya, we are about a day apart it looks! I conceived on March 9....you must have been March 11 or so, right?

Freya
March 30th, 2011, 03:21 PM
I LOVE pycnogenol, but I stopped taking it now. I had DH take it too, because it can have a very positive effect on sperm count :) . The problem is, you never know what really works, but it had a massive effect on stuff like bleeding after injury and it reduced AF by a day for me, so I suppose it rejuvenated me a bit!

Lola, March 10, morning GMT+1 ;) !

TTC5
March 30th, 2011, 04:55 PM
Hi Atomic, I see... so if I seem to get say 2 days of + on the opk I would dtd 6-12 hrs after the first +? What if my positive came say of an evening but morning is not really good for us, is it ok to do it the following evening so that would be 24 hrs after the first +?

LolaInLove
March 31st, 2011, 03:10 PM
Right on, Freya! FX we both have some boys in the oven right now!

atomic sagebrush
April 1st, 2011, 11:41 AM
Hi Atomic, I see... so if I seem to get say 2 days of + on the opk I would dtd 6-12 hrs after the first +? What if my positive came say of an evening but morning is not really good for us, is it ok to do it the following evening so that would be 24 hrs after the first +?

Well, you should be taking your OPK in the afternoon anyway so you could DTD either the night of the OPK (which you run the risk of a cutoff) or the next evening. I think the next evening would still be safe and not risk an O+12 but you would know best - do you find that you O very quickly after your OPK or do you have a bit of warning in advance?? Some people O right after their + OPK and some people don't O for 2 days!

LolaInLove
April 1st, 2011, 02:09 PM
Hi Atomic, I see... so if I seem to get say 2 days of + on the opk I would dtd 6-12 hrs after the first +? What if my positive came say of an evening but morning is not really good for us, is it ok to do it the following evening so that would be 24 hrs after the first +?

We dtd around midnight of my 1st +opk (took it in the afternoon) and then again the next day at midnight, FWIW. I guess we'll see in a couple of months if that yeilded a boy or not though!

DebH
April 5th, 2011, 10:36 PM
Don't remember much at the time we got ds because we weren't "trying" officially and I wasn't tracking anything. Our plan was to start in January 2004, conceived in December 2003 (Sorry for not yet knowing abbreviations that would make this shorter).
We were BOTH on the South Beach Diet at the time. I am thinking Phase 2. We were both in good shape, especially DH. I hardly remember the diet, but I think it had a lot of tomato juice.

Kazz2011
April 5th, 2011, 10:40 PM
When TTC for our boys (and I wasn't swaying, never knew you could unless it was high tech :oops: ) I ate tonnes of salty foods, never drank milk, well not much anyway. I drank green tea and grapefruit juice as I was told that would help with EWCM, in turn helping with TTC. (at the time I didn't know that too much EWCM swayed for boys) So I ended up with a fair bit of EWCM.(sorry if tmi) Also I ate lots of take away foods and ate breakfast. We bd a maximum of 4 days sometimes less and always on O day. Also I never exercised and was hardly ever outdoors. Umm think that's about it.......

boymom
April 5th, 2011, 11:24 PM
When I fell pregnant with all my boys I was eating a diet high in salt, lots of cheese but not much other dairy. Bread everyday at least, lots of tea, in general too many calories, wine and snacks in the evenings usually salty snacks)-and from memory at least with the last 2 def EWCM.

Preggypops
April 6th, 2011, 08:58 AM
I wasnt swaying with the beautiful little boy I have on the way but I was trying very hard to get pregnant! I was on a low carb diet, and eat this way mostly anyway, with lots of meat and red meat. I also eat a ton of salt on everything, always have. Very little dairy, only milk in my tea and the occasional bit of cheese. I also used Zestica as a lube, and I used the individual aplicators which I squirted inside before dtd - so LOTS of sperm friendly lube in there. We dtd 2 days before ovulation and on the day of ovulation - no idea what time I ovulated though. Finally, after doing the deed I did a shoulder stand against the wall and stayed there for as long as possible (prob 15 mins) to give the sperm as easy passage as possible. Good luck ladies!

LolaInLove
April 6th, 2011, 10:55 AM
AWESOME info, thanks so much, ladies! I am SOOOOOO hoping I changed my body enough to make this one a boy. I did all the stuff you gals did, for a good 8 months, too!

boymom
April 7th, 2011, 08:30 AM
GoodLuck:)

kaseybaby
April 8th, 2011, 11:11 PM
I was a concrete boy sway without even knowing it. I had a miscarriage two months prior to conceiving. I had some complications and bled for 6 weeks. During that time I was downing bananas and red meat to help with the blood loss. I was eating very high nutrient foods and not having dairy very often, which is rare for me because I am a dairy nut! The day after my bleeding stopped DS I BD and the next day I ovulated. We had not BD for 6 weeks. It was also a full moon the night we BD. And we did it twice in a row that night.

lindi
April 11th, 2011, 12:20 AM
Hi ladies, for DS I really really wanted to get pregnant badly. Our first attempt worked, and this is what I did in the months leading up: yoga every other day. Sometimes twice a day (well, a flow class and then restorative, but still...) I was stressed about several things. I charted, and knew I o'd in CD14. I ate cereal or a bagel every morning. All organic food. Good prenatal. Lots of cheese. Decaf coffee all the time. I was lean with muscles, but not buff, just pretty lean.
We dtd every other day. I told DH no tighty whities, no hot tubs. There was a super funny day when we went for a long bike ride and I freaked out about his balls getting too hot. Can you tell I might have been a little stressed?
Now I was not a salt fiend. Pretty low salt, in fact. I like sugar but was really limiting it. I ate lots of salad, no meat, not even fish. Lots of whole grains. lentils,. pastas, pizza. I had a very healthy diet with a variety of nutrients and it was fresh, lots of it raw.
I even took robitussin on the attempt day before what I thought would be O. But I was doing this mayan abdominal massage to let go of some emotional issues regarding pregnancy, and she told me I might O a day early, so we ended up DTD 2 days before O and on O, so hit O day with robitussin to boot. I was a EWCM monster. I got a faint + pregnancy test like 7dpo, and I tested because I had a dream I was pg with a boy the previous night.

TTC5
April 11th, 2011, 12:22 AM
LOL at the hot balls! ;)

wishing on a star
April 11th, 2011, 11:06 AM
When i fell pregnant with both my ds's i was eating three proper meals a day with snacks, never been on a diet in my life lol! Never drank milk, coffee or any kind of fizzy drinks. Typical day woul;d be cereal or toast for breakfast, choc bar mid morning, sandwich and crisps for lunch, meat and veg/ pasta for dinner and a snack early evening. I was probably consuming well above the daily recommended intake of calories, i was the only one of all my friends at the time who were ttc that ate three meals a day and i was the only one that concieved a ds!
I also stayed around the same weight and dtd around O with frequent bd, had lots of wet and ewcm for the week leading up to O always

4BlueLooking4Pink
April 16th, 2011, 12:20 AM
I've always ate a lot of salty foods as well as chocolate & peanut butter (yum! ;) ). Also had tons of ewcm (it usually lasted like 5+ days - I had GOBS of it for some reason - I'd pass it off to you ladies ttc a boy if I could, lol) and 3 of our boys were conceived by bding on or a day before ovulation except for ds3 who was conceived with a 5 day cutoff (my massive amounts of ewcm helped the little swimmers last that long I guess). I've always been normal weight although have ranged on the low end of normal to the high end of normal for my height. As for dtd, it varied. We went anywhere from every 2-3 days to every 5-8 days.

ThroughWithBlue
April 30th, 2011, 12:19 AM
I've beeen thinking more about my diets with my boys so I wanted to update this:
DS1: We wanted to get pregnant but I wasn't charting or anything. I'm not sure when we got pregnant, for some fluke that pg didn't show up on HPT's (and yes, I took them correctly) only at the dr office when I went to figure why I hadn't had periods in about 2 months. However, we DTD every single day, multiple times a day. I hadn't seen DH in a few months and we were newlyweds. I'd put money on he was conceived in doggy style. I probably did the big O. I had been off BC pills for maybe 1 month.
Did maybe 20 min cardio and 45 min weights at the gym for 6 days a week usually. So more weights than cardio. Can't 100% remember my diet. I know it involved a lot of chicken, chocolate, snacking, and always weight control oatmeal, I think I was eating Luna Bars then too. Pepsi Max Diet. No vitamins. 5'7 around 130-ish, I would fluctuate between 125 and 130-135. DH did not work out during that time he was too busy.
pretty stressed also.
Drank a pretty good amount of alcohol, usually liquor like vodka or Soco.

DS2 - was on BC pills, stopped for 2 weeks as I was having issues to restart a new type but got pg while stopping the pills (DH said he would pull out and DIDN'T -- AHHH!! sooo mad). DTD Mon and Fri the same week. That's the only times we DTD that month. Pretty sure I got pg on that Fri. I did not have big O either time. J&D right after each time as I wasn't expecting him to do that. I was trying to really dig everything out of there with fingers and TP so it was an agressive J&D.
I had just lost all my baby weight. Was getting pretty crazy with weight loss tactics. Did P90X daily with a long walk up tons of hills pushing DS1 maybe 1hr day. 2x week would do 1 hr cardio plus power yoga plus pilates (that's like 4 hours all together - yikes). Was on diet pills can't remember what kind, just trying to see how low I could get. I only got to like 125 lol. Def overdid weights/toning still. Diet Pepsi Max daily still. I can recite my entire diet then it was the same every day. Morning weight control oatmeal, maple and brown sugar. Didn't drink coffee then. Would have a small snack maybe white cheddar rice cake around 10am. noon would have 1 cup V8 butternut squash soup, la tortilla factory high fiber low carb (nasty) wrap with turkey lunch meat, 2 pieces butterball everyday turkey bacon, small amt cheddar cheese and iceburg with side of edamame and a 100 cal choc chip cookie pack. Snack would be the same smoothie every day, frozen strawberries, 1 oz cream cheese, 1/2 c milk, 1/2c cottage cheese blended up. with some snack on the side. Dinner was always chicken. always high sodium and always large portions. dessert was usually something yummy like chocolate baked goods. also ate lots of jello. I would snack literally every hour on something. I am literally always hungry.
LOADED down with stress. I was insanely stressed out.
I was taking cranberry pills as I have lots of UTI's.
DH wasn't working out alot then if I remember correctly.
That friday when I'm pretty sure I got pg we went out in the rain and I remember getting a really good choc donut right before coming home to DTD. Def not a low calorie day lol.
Drank probably 4x month always captain morgan or soco and coke.
Also, DH worked around radiation A LOT with DS2. LARGE majority of people in his job or who work around where he works have girls. When people hear what job he does they are literally shocked we have 2 boys.

I have never ate a hamburger, only ate beef a couple times with DS1 pg when I was craving it. Never eat potatoes either. so you can conceive a boy without eating either. I did eat an abnormally high amt protein when I tracked my food. Before dinner it was already in the 100's. Low fat but prob avg carb. Tons of weights. I'm constantly snacking. I never ate yogurt or milk (aside from that smoothie with DS2). I hate dairy. DS2 I never salted anything but with DS1 I did. Never use butter (except in baked good when I can't sub applesauce), never cook with oil.
Also, had to add, it rains here probably 5days out of the week and was at peak rainy season with DS2 meaning it rained every day so that negative ion from rain swaying girl is crap otherwise everyone here would be female.

Pretty textbook boy swayer here, not trying at all. I'm not surprised I had boys. Hope I helped somebody.

Sunset
April 30th, 2011, 04:25 AM
I've always had a very typical boy diet! My favourite foods are potatoes, red meat, tomato based sauces, always lots of added salt, gravy sacues, bananas, breakfast cereal, lots of orange juice, watermelon, chips, french fries etc. etc. as for timing we bd through ov with both ds1 and ds2 and used preseed.

bodhi
May 18th, 2011, 11:08 AM
It was a near perfect boy sway and I didn't even realize it.

I'd had a recent miscarriage, so I was quite stressed and trying very hard to get pregnant. I'd lost some weight after my mc, so I was purposely gaining it back when my son was conceived. I drank decaf green tea every day, took robitussin around O, took garlic (I eat lots of garlic in my diet normally), ate salty foods, added flax seeds to everything, drank grapefruit juice like it was going out of style, used pre-seed and menstrual cups, laid in bed after DTD for at least 30 minutes, and BD'd every day around O (twice on O day). I avoided caffeine, but drank lots of decaf coffee and diet sodas. I drank raspberry leaf tea every day from AF to O, and took baby aspirin in the 2ww. I used progesterone cream (which I know supposedly sways girl) after O. I'm a nurse and do shift work, and my work environment is packed with positive ion producing things. DH took fertilaid and zinc, and did everything he thought might help us get pregnant (boxers, avoided hot baths, etc).

Good luck and lots of blue dust!

SugarSpice&EverythingNice
May 18th, 2011, 06:21 PM
I have 2 sons, and we didn't plan for either of them. They were both surprises, so I never kept track of when we DTD, if it was close to O, or after (wish I could go back in time and see it so I could do the opposite for TTC a girl!!!)

I ate anything and everything. Loved fast food (burgers/fries/soda). I was 137lbs, 5'4" so I think I was more average weight than I am now. Now I am 120lbs after the boys, so I hope that works in my TTC girl favor.

So I was "heavier", ate loads of sodium rich foods, I remember eating a lot of farina for breakfast with butter and sugar on top. I only drank soy milk, tried to stay away from any dairy, so I was always getting soy alternatives (which meant low calcium). I was a vegetarian. Ate a lot of ramen noodles (high sodium) I remember eating huge portions of cheese filled ravioli.

Hubby ate crappy fast food also (high in sodium) Always wore boxers.

We DTD all the time (Who doesn't when they don't have kids lol)
I always orgasmed. We mostly were in the missionary position and always deep penetration. (Y spermies were practically on top of my cervix guaranteeing that I kept having boys! LOL)

I never took any supplements and was never on any birth control.

With both of my sons, I carried very very low. My sister, who has 2 girls, always carried up high (her stomach held up her boobs lol)

Hmm thats all I can think of. HTH :)

purplepoet20
May 18th, 2011, 06:37 PM
I am swaying pink but.... just looking at the dairy products at the store and I see a lot of sodium, low fat yogurt 1/2 cup is 420mg of sodium. With my boys I had dairy in baked goods, milk in cereal, cheese once in awhile on food, and 2 servings of ice cream everynight... not doing any dairy for a girl sway just calcium pills.

atomic sagebrush
May 19th, 2011, 09:59 AM
Thank you for sharing guys! I did want to mention that I also carry very very high and have 4 boys - that one is an old wives tale. It's the shape of your body that determines how you carry and not the gender of your baby. I didn't want anyone to read that and panic.

mitz0315
May 19th, 2011, 12:51 PM
Hi, I also had 2 boys without swaying.
DS1- used cbefm, bd on O day. (hubbys bday weekend so lots of salty cajun food, red meat and beer).
DS2- just got off BC because of side effects. 1st month off thought I was timing things right, first time no protection (thought i was about to start) but looking back at past FF charts I O'd that night. SUPRISE!!!
I had the big-O when concieving both boys. Never really paid attn to EWCM... MUST do that now that we want to concieve a :DD:

mitz0315
May 19th, 2011, 12:53 PM
oh and my diet consisted of red meats, sweets and salty foods. with DS1 I was on weight watchers when i concieved

Tink18
May 21st, 2011, 03:24 AM
After reading so much about the diet, it make so much sense to me, why we had a girl. Now I just have to adjust and chage it up and get a boy!

Deux Bleus
May 30th, 2011, 08:09 AM
I didn't sway with either of my DS's.

First DS was def conceived on O day. DH & I DTD first time for the month on O day and I conceived.

DS2 was a surprise - not sure exactly when I was going to O but again, we only DTD once that month and it was def either the day or day before I was to O. (DH worked away from home that's why there wasn't much BD'g going on).

My diet was full of carbs, salt, sweets, caffeine. I did eat 'healthy' foods as in veggies/fruit with every meal but it did also consist of all the other baddies.
DH drinks LOADS of coffee - I won't even write how much as it's ridiculous and he showers in cold water. He never has hot showers, ever!!

After DTD, I layed there for a little while (not intentionally), approx 5m before going to the toilet to dump. Sorry, TMI.

Good luck for your blue bundles.

rainbowflower
May 30th, 2011, 08:27 AM
I didn't know about swaying with my son... we did everything we could to improve our chances of conception, which seems to mostly sway blue!

But I liked to have salty chips (fries) with baked beans for my lunch when I was hungry at work, really enjoy my salty roast potatoes with my Sunday lunch. I also snacked a lot while at work too.

I eat a fair bit of meat, and probably have 2 meals made from minced beef a week such as spag bol/lasagne/chilli/meatballs and would have meat of some sort with every main meal, took multivitamins and omega 3 supps to boost EWCM and my fertility. I also made sure I always had my 5 a day and generally healthy diet (with the exception of eating a lot of chocolate). I ate tomatoes almost every day as well and always had breakfast, too.

I always had a big O after DTD because I knew that would improve my conception chances and lay there for 30mins (or fell asleep) with bum raised.

Queen-o-Queens
June 11th, 2011, 02:03 PM
I was starting my sway when I conceived DS, I felt like I was mainly too acidic so I started the baking soda drink twice a day for 2 months before anything else, because my diet has always been pretty boy heavy in my opinion, I was waiting on OPKs to come when I fell pregnant, and from my dates it looks like I conceived by DTD 5 days before O

Queen-o-Queens
June 11th, 2011, 10:47 PM
Oh and I'll add that I would drink coke, iced tea, and my boy lemonade which was lemon juice+water+truvia sweetener it's supposed be really alkalyzingonce in the body and it doesn't have a nasty after taste or anything

Julesbwn
June 12th, 2011, 02:32 AM
I recently had a little boy and pretty much ate everything ... coffee , and toast for breakfast plus fruit for morning tea , ham salad sandwich for lunch usually steak and veggies for dinner ... I always had a glass of wine with dinner ... and not much dairy except in my coffee and I sometimes has a yoghurt in the morning . I was also taking multivitamins :)


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ttcboy2011
June 16th, 2011, 03:06 PM
I didn't sway with either of my DS's.

First DS was def conceived on O day. DH & I DTD first time for the month on O day and I conceived.

DS2 was a surprise - not sure exactly when I was going to O but again, we only DTD once that month and it was def either the day or day before I was to O. (DH worked away from home that's why there wasn't much BD'g going on).

My diet was full of carbs, salt, sweets, caffeine. I did eat 'healthy' foods as in veggies/fruit with every meal but it did also consist of all the other baddies.
DH drinks LOADS of coffee - I won't even write how much as it's ridiculous and he showers in cold water. He never has hot showers, ever!!

After DTD, I layed there for a little while (not intentionally), approx 5m before going to the toilet to dump. Sorry, TMI.

Good luck for your blue bundles.

Thank you for sharing your experience. It gives me hope. I'm trying to do the boy diet but sometimes I cheat. So when I read your experience, it feels great! Thanks.

mandicane
July 12th, 2011, 08:52 PM
I guess I also swayed without even realizing it :P. I was deinitely gaining weight when i conceived my son. I was eating high fat everything and was not watching sodium at all (I never have). I love ketchup and sauces of any kind. I don't shake salt on any of my food but now that I am swaying for a girl I see that its in almost everything that i ate. Was a big banana and cereal eater and never drank crystal light or aspertame of any kind. I actually worked hard to avoid it. Drank a lot of orange juice, tomato juice and eat sweet potatoes at least 3 times a week. Ate breakfast every morning and hardly any dairy as I am lactose intollerant. Love, love , love sugar and baked goods so ate this all the time. Not a big diet pop drinker. Didn't eat out much as I love to cook. Had lots of EWCM and BD'ed every other day and right through O. Hope this helps!

LolaInLove
July 14th, 2011, 12:09 PM
Awesome! Thanks for your input, ladies! QOQ, so happy to see you again! Did you have your son yet?

jane
July 17th, 2011, 12:42 AM
thanx for all the info everyone,very helpfull!

CapricornAquarius
August 21st, 2011, 03:19 AM
MommyD have a question for you, my sister is pregnant with her 3rd she has had no nausea so she is guessing that its going to be a boy.

Did you get nausea with any of your boys?

DD1 :ballerina: DD2 :giggle:

jennibel
August 21st, 2011, 04:49 PM
Thought I would add how I got my boys without realising - DTD every 2 or 3 days after AF, definately conceived on O or day before, had a full diet lots of red meat, tuna steak, bacon butties at wknd, sauces (ketchup on everything!), drank coke zero red wine, chocolate, tomato based sauces e.g spag bol, take aways (salty pizzas etc), never ever had yoghurt or drank milk, breakfast (cereal) everyday, lots of veggies and fruit too. DH big fan of the gym weights in particular. I am a stresshead and control freak, like to keep my house in order! DTD deep, hips raised after. We both have a diet coke or coke zero every evening (perhaps DH drinking it gave the Y sperm a boost as have heard this). No plants in the house, I'm a horrow at not opening windows enough, lots of laptop use (lots of positive ions). Took pregnacare and DH took wellman prior to ttc.

atomic sagebrush
August 21st, 2011, 05:28 PM
Jsut for the record, I do not believe that Coke Zero does anything positive at all for Y sperm and may even sway pink due to the fake sugar in it.

XXdreaming
August 21st, 2011, 09:44 PM
I really don't know how I got all my boys, or basically I haven't figured it out yet lol

indigoviolet
August 31st, 2011, 06:52 AM
When I conceived both my boys I was the healthiest I have ever been, eating loads of fruit and veg. Dtd every second day and over O using preseed, hips propped and diva cup. Used warming pad on uterus area for 1 hour day. Soy supplement. Dh was taking pycognecol (sp?) and fertility supplement. Also Royal Jelly and Beepollen supp. If I think of anything else I'll come back and edit, it's hard to remember that far back!
Good luck to you all

fresas
August 31st, 2011, 06:26 PM
Neither of my sons were planned, but I will try to remember as much as possible. The times I conceived seem to be kind of half girl friendly, half boy friendly.

DS 1:

age 19, was a server and bartender. Worked 15 hour days on my feet all day. I didn't sleep a lot.

My husband worked long days, too, and didn't eat very often. He drank alcohol probably twice a week. His body temperature tends to be hot all the time. At that time, he wore cotton boxers.

I was taking diet pills with ephedra (when it was still legal) and nothing else, not even a MVI. I lost about 15 lbs prior to getting pregnant.

I ate maybe once a day. That meal usually didn't have a lot of sugar in it. It was usually a balance of carbs and protein with vegetables.

I drank only water, never alcohol, soft drinks, coffee drinks, etc.

We had a lot of sex. I didn't know about ovulation or anything so I don't know when my son was conceived. I just kept track of my periods. We did not use any birth control because for some reason, I thought I wouldn't conceive (stupid girl! :)). I know that doesn't help for timing, but we had a lot of sex all month so I'm not sure it mattered.

We also did a lot of different positions. There was no jumping nor dumping, but usually got up to pee within 20 minutes because I was prone to UTIs. :D

If it helps, I always said when I was younger that I wanted my first baby to be a boy.

DS 2:

We had just returned from my husband's home country after a very stressful immigration process. We had successfully been doing a combination of barrier methods and rhythm methods for a long time.

However, I guess we were in a celebratory mood and had sex 4 times in one day. We had a quickie the next day after that. I knew I was fertile based on the CM, so I'm pretty sure that day I conceived was the day before or the day of ovulation. We did different positions each time. I jumped and dumped each time. Prior to this, we hadn't had sex in about 2 weeks.

Diet wise, I had just lost about 7 lbs because the water in DH's home country didn't treat me very well. I was very low carb at the time and didn't eat much, but when I ate, it was once a day and I usually had an apple with peanut butter and some sort of protein, usually eggs, beans, and chicken.

I was taking a MVI and calcium. Again, drinking only water.

DH had GAINED weight, wore boxer briefs, and was taking a MVI and calcium.

His diet kind of sucked, but wasn't filled with too much junk food expect for a lot of Flamin' Hot Cheetos. He ate a lot of carbs, all whole wheat. He had caffeine once in a while, but it wasn't daily. Maybe once a week and it was usually a diet soft drink.

When I found out I was pregnant this time, I just wanted a healthy baby. The gender truly didn't matter. My husband wanted a daughter.

If I remember anything else, I will be sure to share. If it helps, I was not very symptomatic with PCOS at the time of either of my sons conceptions. It wasn't until after I had the second one that PCOS really affected my life with obvious symptoms.

ETA With DS2 I was taking Benadryl 50mg every night for months and the 2WW.

LolaInLove
September 1st, 2011, 09:41 AM
When I conceived both my boys I was the healthiest I have ever been, eating loads of fruit and veg. Dtd every second day and over O using preseed, hips propped and diva cup. Used warming pad on uterus area for 1 hour day. Soy supplement. Dh was taking pycognecol (sp?) and fertility supplement. Also Royal Jelly and Beepollen supp. If I think of anything else I'll come back and edit, it's hard to remember that far back!
Good luck to you all

YAY, loved reading this, because it's exactly what I did bd-wise and most of it, actually, except that I've gained weight eating a bunch of healthy foods and keeping my blood sugar level all day.

Thank you, ladies, for posting your stories!!!! We wish you all of our pink dust in appreciation. :pinksperm:

indigoviolet
September 14th, 2011, 12:54 PM
Good luck Lola, hope it works for you to bring you blue! FX
It took me about 15 (or was it 17 months?) to conceive ds2 so I was being as baby friendly as I could be, I'd dropped everything from my pink sway. Are you taking royal jelly? DH was also taking pycnogenol (sp? makes swimmers better and very alkaline I think)

LolaInLove
September 14th, 2011, 01:55 PM
Good luck Lola, hope it works for you to bring you blue! FX
It took me about 15 (or was it 17 months?) to conceive ds2 so I was being as baby friendly as I could be, I'd dropped everything from my pink sway. Are you taking royal jelly? DH was also taking pycnogenol (sp? makes swimmers better and very alkaline I think)

Yes, it's been a while.....I am pretty much just fertility-friendly now. I am not currently taking RJ, as I just ran out a couple of weeks ago and haven't gotten more, but I take Spirulina and Maca and wheatgrass- all 3 good fertility superfoods, from what I've read. My DH and I both take a super expensive multi-antioxidant that has pynogenol and a bunch of other stuff in it. He just did an SA on Monday just to be sure nothing is wrong with his guys down there. It's been frustrating because I got pg in a heartbeat with my girls. Thanks again for the advice!!!! I love reading all of the stories here. I hope we girl moms are as helpful in the pink momma thread.

TTC5
September 14th, 2011, 09:23 PM
Love reading everyones stories - thankyou!

indigoviolet
September 17th, 2011, 05:57 AM
Lola- that sounds really healthy, wow. It will happen for you soon I'm sure and no doubt be a boy with all that super boy friendly stuff. I also used a warming pad for an hour or so a day to help with circulation in uterus area and build up the lining. Think that is just fertility friendly rather than specific for boy. FX you catch that egg soon, good luck this cycle.

TTC5
September 17th, 2011, 06:13 AM
Tell me more about these warming pads?

indigoviolet
September 20th, 2011, 04:57 AM
the warming pads are anything like a wheat pillow or a hot water bottle (not too hot) put on lower abdomen for a while each day leading up to O. It helps with circulations and builds up the lining in the uterus so implantation is more likely to be successful. I also continued after O to help with implantation. I read about this a couple of years ago and it worked for me straight away (after ttc for ages). When I have suggested it to others who have been struggling too it seemed to work for them to (a few girls on IG) so maybe worth a try?

Good luck!

swish
September 20th, 2011, 08:04 AM
Indigo, will you do this as part of your girl sway too or do you think it sways blue??

zanacal
September 20th, 2011, 01:56 PM
Surely creating a better lining for implantation will only sway towards pregnancy - given that the sperm will have already met the egg by that point and it just means that whichever variety it is has a better chance of making itself at home in there!

indigoviolet
September 20th, 2011, 02:15 PM
I am doing it this cycle actually as I know it helped me last time, I agree with Zanacal though, I don't think it sways (I hope not!)

TTC5
September 21st, 2011, 06:19 PM
Oh thankyou!

atomic sagebrush
September 25th, 2011, 11:00 AM
I am slightly concerned though because I have heard that high temps in early pg can lead to birth defects??? Which is why they say not to sit in hot tubs and why a high fever can be dangerous. Or is it not that warm??

Demeter
September 29th, 2011, 11:17 AM
This is really great information, I was always dieting when I was ttc. I rarely ate breakfast, loved cheese and carbs and ate little meat. Interesting!

LolaInLove
September 29th, 2011, 11:29 AM
This is really great information, I was always dieting when I was ttc. I rarely ate breakfast, loved cheese and carbs and ate little meat. Interesting!

Hi Demeter, come join our Blue Crew thread!

I am also curious about the water bottle thing....that is interesting Indigo. Thanks for sharing! So, you've seen more success with it after TTC a long time with others than yourself?

Demeter
September 29th, 2011, 11:40 AM
The warming is very interesting! It reminds me of the needle moxibustion I had when ttc #3. I had difficulties getting pregnant with #2 and #3, but the month moxibustion was added, I conceived.

ETA: I only had moxibustion when ttc#3.

LolaInLove
September 29th, 2011, 11:42 AM
What is that???? Like accupuncture?

Demeter
September 29th, 2011, 11:44 AM
What is that???? Like accupuncture?

Yes, she did the moxibustion along with accupuncture. It was just on a thicker needle and the cone burned for 20 minutes or so, but the needle remained in through the rest of the session along with the acupuncture needles.

LolaInLove
September 29th, 2011, 11:51 AM
Yes, she did the moxibustion along with accupuncture. It was just on a thicker needle and the cone burned for 20 minutes or so, but the needle remained in through the rest of the session along with the acupuncture needles.

Ok, gotcha.....I think my acupuncturist mentioned that to me once. (I only went for 4 sessions, too expensive and she wanted me to stop ttc for 6 months while the "therapy" took effect. Not happening at 35yo, LOL.)

jennaesue
October 5th, 2011, 10:43 AM
First two boys were conceived while I was a vegetarian (although I didn't eat terribly healthily), I ate a ton of cereal and drank a lot of coffee. DS1 was an oops, DS2 was planned (girl sway). W/ ds2, I was taking Vitex, Cal/Mag, cranberry, acidopholus. With both, frequent bd (almost everyday). Since DS1 wasn't planned, I don't know when I Od or anything, and I had my O date wrong with ds2, so not sure when they were conceived (Ds1 was conceived in May and DS2 in June).

DS3 was not planned - I missed a week of bcp. At that time I was student teaching, so I was stressed out, got little sleep, and had just finished bfing ds2. I had just lost a lot of weight. I was eating less cereal then - I mostly ate breakfast sandwiches at school (although I was still eating a bowl of cereal at night). Still drinking a lot of coffee. Oh, and I was no longer a vegetarian. Not sure when he was conceived in relation to O - it was in March, though.

With all three, I was taking Allegra for allergies. I also hate artificial sweeteners, so I rarely used them. I really think our tendency towards boys is genetic - I know that's been disproven, but dh's family is very boy-heavy, and I have 4 nephews and no nieces.

LolaInLove
October 5th, 2011, 11:44 AM
Wow, Jennasue, that is very interesting! Maybe you are right about the genetic disposition to boys, but here's to hoping your next is a pink caboose. Thanks for sharing!

jennaesue
October 5th, 2011, 01:00 PM
Wow, Jennasue, that is very interesting! Maybe you are right about the genetic disposition to boys, but here's to hoping your next is a pink caboose. Thanks for sharing!

Thanks! I also think maybe the frequent bd has something to do with it, since that's been a constant with all three boys. I don't think I can talk my dh into abstaining for this one though.

Good luck to you, too!

carmella_marie
October 7th, 2011, 12:47 AM
When I got DS we were BDing almost every day, maybe every other. He was a 5 day cut off (we weren't trying, I just O'ed early). I was doing moderate exercise, including weights. I always ate a big breakfast and was really healthy in my eating habits. Conceived in October, chinese gender calendar was right on. Full moon phase, orange juice, lots of snacking

indigoviolet
October 7th, 2011, 05:07 PM
Lola- yes, it worked for me and several other ladies I mentioned it to on IG a while ago. I will bear in mind what atomic said though and not make it too hot.

atomic sagebrush
October 8th, 2011, 12:33 PM
RE 4 nephews and no nieces...in my family, we have 7 b and 1 g cousins BUT the problem is that some of those people are not even genetically related to each other (one is adopted and another is a "kissing" cousin.) And the one with the girl IS genetically related to others with all boys!! I know it's hard to believe, but it really can be simple coincidence.

maybeoneday
October 22nd, 2011, 04:56 PM
Hi girls, thought I would add in my tuppence worth here.

I have 2 boys and swayed for neither - didn't even know it existed!!

DS1 - He was conceived about the time I got married!! We decided to stop being careful as we got married and would see what happened. I had lost a load of weight partly through wedding stress and by eating smaller portions but I think I had probably relaxed that as the wedding day approached! We DTD once before the wedding unprotected then quite frequently from wedding night onwards. I suspect I O on the day we got married! I always propped my hips afterwards and never J&D. Anyway, I came home from my honeymoon pregnant!

DS2 - We decided to TTC again and we DTD every day/other day between the end of AF and O and fell the first month of trying. Again, I always propped my hips and never J&D.

My diet for both of them was similar in that we would eat red meat (mince beef) probably twice a week. would often eat prepared food (chicken kiev, breaded cod etc). I always ate breakfast - usually porridge. With DS1, often ate WW soup for lunch which is quite high in salt and probably sandwiches with DS2. I always drank tea with both (3-4 cups a day) and would have wine most friday and saturday nights (not to excess, just a couple of glasses expect on my wedding night where i was quite drunk!!). I never took a vitamin and with DS1 didn't even start folic acid until I knew I was pregnant!

Hope that helps someone and my blue dust is free to a good home......

Good luck xx

annabel♥lee
October 22nd, 2011, 06:40 PM
Can't remember if i already posted here...

I have two boys. With my oldest, I didn't really know about TTC so we just used saliva as lube (sorry way TMI). I was skinny at the time. 5'7" and weighed 110. But I was young (19) so that was just normal for me. I hadn't lost or gained weight really. I can't remember what I was eating but I remember at that age eating a lot of crap. Like Taco Bell, etc. LOL. I also smoked when I conceived, but quit as soon as I found out I was pregnant. Oh, at that age I was going out drinking alot too. I was also taking a daily women's multivitamin. Again, quit when I got pregnant. :)

Second boy was 5 years later. I was probably about 120 or so at that point, so still thin. Can't remember what I was eating but I was faithfully taking a prenatal since we were purposefully TTC. It was taking a while so I bought some Preseed and OPK's. BDed 3 nights in a row when I got my positive OPK. Also used Preseed. It did the trick because I got pregnant that month. :)

I wanted girls both times SO BAD! But they are sweet and I love my boys to death. :HH:

Pangea
October 25th, 2011, 08:25 AM
When I look back to ttc our boys, alot of the things we did were what we would do if we were swaying for boys. I didn't realise it at the time, I just wanted to maximise our chances of getting pregnant.

On DS1 I was on a health diet, I had eliminated dairy and wheat flour, was eating soda bread made with spelt flour and drinking soya milk.
We were using Preseed.
I was temping and using opks, bding all the way through O.
I was slim but a stable healthy weight, hadn't lost or gained any.
Taking evening primrose oil, fish oil and vitex.
And too much information here, but deep penetration, doggy style, orgasm during and after bd.

With DS2
Was breastfeeding a 20 month old.
Was underweight, and had lost quite alot over the preceding months.
Used a lubricant called conceive plus
Was taking Maca
Temps, OPKs, Bd all the way through O
Same again with deep penetration and orgasm during and after.

melon
October 26th, 2011, 11:29 AM
Pangea- thank you for sharing.. have a question about Maca...what is that for? I have heard that before but never really understood what that is for during TTC. You said you had eliminated dairy but why wheat flour? Were you swaying with any of your boys?

atomic sagebrush
October 29th, 2011, 11:18 AM
Maca is a fertility food from South America that is supposed to be very good for improving fertility. For right now, it's kind of an unknown with swaying, but pretty much everything that are good for fertility tend to sway blue.

I'm not Pangaea obviously but a lot of people go onto health-conscious diets where they avoid dairy and wheat products because they are inflammatory and common allergens. So she may not have been swaying, just avoiding those things for overall health benefits.

KnockYourBallsOff
October 29th, 2011, 03:56 PM
Loving this! I'll add my info as well:

I salt and butter everything. We eat a diet high in meat (3 x daily) red, chicken, pork. NO MILK EVERRRR. I HATE it. Lots of coffee, diet drinks, and sweets (love cakes and cookies). We used Pre-seed with DS1 and DS2. TONS of EWCM as I took care to get pg ASAP (tons of water, and vitamens, esp. b complex to lenghtne my short luteal phase).

Moderate excercise, usually gained a few pounds while TTC b/c I was like "well, why not gain a few...I'll be pg. soon anyway!) (no idea about swaying).

Had two losses before DS3, and just wanted another baby, so didn't evven research swaying.

Moderately stressed, but not too bad. Laptop on my lap all the time. Always snacked late at night.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the 3 little ones I lost were all boys as well.....I'm so boy friendly it's not even funny. Naturally very high PH as well, with lots of bacterial vag. infections.

My family has a TON of boys as well.....I think it's the whole "you are what your mother eats theory"....we all eat the same, pass down the same recipes, etc. I think our taste buds have adapted to salty meats, sweets, etc. and therefore we all tend to have boys.

I am SO confident that I'll have a girl next, I'd put money on it. I'm already making small changes in my diet now and will continue to do so until we TTC in March or April.

Good luck ladies!!!!

melon
October 29th, 2011, 04:27 PM
Maca is a fertility food from South America that is supposed to be very good for improving fertility. For right now, it's kind of an unknown with swaying, but pretty much everything that are good for fertility tend to sway blue.

I'm not Pangaea obviously but a lot of people go onto health-conscious diets where they avoid dairy and wheat products because they are inflammatory and common allergens. So she may not have been swaying, just avoiding those things for overall health benefits.

Thanks Atomic!

gizmo77
November 1st, 2011, 03:34 PM
Loving this! I'll add my info as well:

I salt and butter everything. We eat a diet high in meat (3 x daily) red, chicken, pork. NO MILK EVERRRR. I HATE it. Lots of coffee, diet drinks, and sweets (love cakes and cookies). We used Pre-seed with DS1 and DS2. TONS of EWCM as I took care to get pg ASAP (tons of water, and vitamens, esp. b complex to lenghtne my short luteal phase).

Moderate excercise, usually gained a few pounds while TTC b/c I was like "well, why not gain a few...I'll be pg. soon anyway!) (no idea about swaying).

Had two losses before DS3, and just wanted another baby, so didn't evven research swaying.

Moderately stressed, but not too bad. Laptop on my lap all the time. Always snacked late at night.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if the 3 little ones I lost were all boys as well.....I'm so boy friendly it's not even funny. Naturally very high PH as well, with lots of bacterial vag. infections.

My family has a TON of boys as well.....I think it's the whole "you are what your mother eats theory"....we all eat the same, pass down the same recipes, etc. I think our taste buds have adapted to salty meats, sweets, etc. and therefore we all tend to have boys.

I am SO confident that I'll have a girl next, I'd put money on it. I'm already making small changes in my diet now and will continue to do so until we TTC in March or April.

Good luck ladies!!!!

love your betty white quote! and the 1st one too!

auroara78
November 7th, 2011, 05:27 PM
Hi all, I'm new here, but thought i'd chime in:

Have two boys, and with DS1 I was on a health kick and was taking fish oil supps and working out moderately, lost about 10 lbs in a month (nothing fancy, or crazy) eating lots of fish sauteed in olive oil and lemon, eating tons of chocolate still (I used to work in a drugstore and was hard to say no), at the computer a lot, had sex one time on O day itself, loved salty foods, lots of bananas, dried apricots, milk, every morning had oatmeal with milk, ice cream, pasta with tomato sauce, etc

DS2 --> Losing moderate weight again, lots of beef, and olives, etc and similiar diet to before. I was in grad school online at the time and had the laptop on my lap ALL THE TIME! Two big O's with DS2, haha.

Both boys were accident one-shot wonders directly on O day!

Hoping maybe planning will help wtih having a girl :)

Cinss
November 7th, 2011, 05:39 PM
Hi all, I'm new here, but thought i'd chime in:

Have two boys, and with DS1 I was on a health kick and was taking fish oil supps and working out moderately, lost about 10 lbs in a month (nothing fancy, or crazy) eating lots of fish sauteed in olive oil and lemon, eating tons of chocolate still (I used to work in a drugstore and was hard to say no), at the computer a lot, had sex one time on O day itself, loved salty foods, lots of bananas, dried apricots, milk, every morning had oatmeal with milk, ice cream, pasta with tomato sauce, etc

DS2 --> Losing moderate weight again, lots of beef, and olives, etc and similiar diet to before. I was in grad school online at the time and had the laptop on my lap ALL THE TIME! Two big O's with DS2, haha.

Both boys were accident one-shot wonders directly on O day!

Hoping maybe planning will help wtih having a girl :)

Its funny now that i am on the boy diet all i crave is ice cream, i didn't eat it heaps before the diet, just because i read somewhere i should restrict dairy its all i can think about late at night, so thanks for sharing auroara, i wont feel so bad now if i do give in to my craving once in a while.

trich1219
November 9th, 2011, 01:04 AM
I am new to this but I have 4 girls and ttc a boy. Need help please! what should I do and shouldn't do. Thanks for any help

LolaInLove
November 9th, 2011, 12:57 PM
I am new to this but I have 4 girls and ttc a boy. Need help please! what should I do and shouldn't do. Thanks for any help

HI! Pop over to the ttc boy forum and start reading away. You will find it helpful to gather all the info first and then join some threads and ask away.

Boy mamas: thank you so much for sharing your stories!!!

melon
November 9th, 2011, 02:17 PM
Hi all, I'm new here, but thought i'd chime in:

Both boys were accident one-shot wonders directly on O day!

Auroara - thank you for sharing... I was wondering how you were able to DTD on O by accident? Were you tracking O? The reason I am asking is I am having hard time pinpointing my O using OPKs and temps even with pretty regular cycles. Whatever you did worked great.. may be just do the opposite to get a baby girl.... which is what I am going to do :)

atomic sagebrush
November 9th, 2011, 03:33 PM
Its funny now that i am on the boy diet all i crave is ice cream, i didn't eat it heaps before the diet, just because i read somewhere i should restrict dairy its all i can think about late at night, so thanks for sharing auroara, i wont feel so bad now if i do give in to my craving once in a while.

I def. think you should, I ate tons of dairy with all four of mine!! your body is trying to tell you something.

atomic sagebrush
November 9th, 2011, 03:35 PM
I am new to this but I have 4 girls and ttc a boy. Need help please! what should I do and shouldn't do. Thanks for any help

Here is a good place to start and then let me know what other questions you have.

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?1586-READ-ME-FIRST-Planning-your-blue-sway

LolaInLove
November 9th, 2011, 03:48 PM
I def. think you should, I ate tons of dairy with all four of mine!! your body is trying to tell you something.

I very much believe that cravings are your body's way of getting a nutrient you are low on in the old gullet.

Plum3
November 10th, 2011, 05:07 AM
I def. think you should, I ate tons of dairy with all four of mine!! your body is trying to tell you something.

So you think ice cream would be good for a boy sway? That would be bloody fantastic!

melon
November 10th, 2011, 09:30 AM
So you think ice cream would be good for a boy sway? That would be bloody fantastic!

As much as full fat dairy is good for the sway.. i wouldn't indulge in ice cream because of the sugars and blood sugar ups/downs...

atomic sagebrush
November 10th, 2011, 06:00 PM
So you think ice cream would be good for a boy sway? That would be bloody fantastic!

I ate it with 3 of my four, that's all I know! Several times a week.

atomic sagebrush
November 10th, 2011, 06:02 PM
As much as full fat dairy is good for the sway.. i wouldn't indulge in ice cream because of the sugars and blood sugar ups/downs...

As long as you're getting some protein along with your sweets, (ice cream does have protein, 6 g per cup) your blood sugar neither rises too high or drops too suddenly. Might be best to have it as a dessert with a dinner rather than a meal by itself tho.

sweetsister
November 11th, 2011, 04:18 AM
With first DS i was underweight but had gained a few pounds i was a smoker then and ate a lot of meat and pasta and tomatoes sandwiches with turkey meat canned tuna with salt and oil,diet coke too much coffee and cheese..
second Ds was 10 pounds overweight ate alot of salt meat potatoes tomatoes cheese pizza motherinlaws greasy cooking coffee gatoraide sprite Dh always drank gatoraide and Redbulls .and with both i had always lots of ewcm and first ds dtd every day or more leading up to and on o day for a week!Second Ds dtd one time on o day.
Oh and every night chocolate and a glass of wine or 2 :)

auroara78
November 14th, 2011, 02:58 PM
Auroara - thank you for sharing... I was wondering how you were able to DTD on O by accident? Were you tracking O? The reason I am asking is I am having hard time pinpointing my O using OPKs and temps even with pretty regular cycles. Whatever you did worked great.. may be just do the opposite to get a baby girl.... which is what I am going to do :)
Melon,
I had a ton of EWCM but my husband pulled out so I thought "Oh I won't get pregnant"...I was feeling very frisky, (I jumped him, my hubby has a low sex drive), and then at my 6 week ultrasound, they confirmed it by telling me he was concieved on Aug 7 2010 and that one TIME I jumped my husband (our afternoon delight) was the only time that it could've been, and I remembered the EWCM then, and how interested I was in getting some loving!!!

For all the other ladies, I am an ice cream freak. I am a dairy freak, I have 2 boys.....while I do love salty food, potatoes, bananas, etc, all those other foods classically deemed "boy foods", I already love dairy and consume it on a daily basis, that's why consuming a lot of dairy on the IG diet was a bit shocking to me. However, after trying to consume the amounts of dairy on IG (yogurt, tons of milk) I rethought it, and decided that yes, I enjoyed dairy but I was not completely possessed by it, LOL.

gizmo77
November 16th, 2011, 11:30 PM
nice post auroara! interesting about your attempt with your ds!! total "girl" BD style!

atomic sagebrush
November 20th, 2011, 01:23 PM
Auroara, I was thinking about this the other day and if anything, I think I ate LESS dairy on the IG Diet LOL! I just couldn't eat as much dairy without going over my limits for sodium and potassium!

Please no one tell me "that's why your sway failed" because I also took tons of cal, mag, Vit. D, and I am kidding anyway. :)

love being a mummy
November 20th, 2011, 06:01 PM
Any boys mums DTD everyday?

atomic sagebrush
November 26th, 2011, 03:53 PM
We DTD a LOT when we were trying with DS 2 and 3 especially, but not every day.

zanacal
November 26th, 2011, 03:58 PM
We didn't DTD every day but DH very likely released himself on the days when we didn't.

Sunset
November 26th, 2011, 04:53 PM
we DTD everyday when I conceived ds1!

gizmo77
November 30th, 2011, 03:00 PM
i have a friend who dtd'd 3 times in one day and got a boy. her first was a girl.

queen-of-harts
November 30th, 2011, 04:57 PM
Any boys mums DTD everyday?

With the first two boys yes!

envisioned
December 9th, 2011, 06:02 PM
I have a TMI question to ask (if this has been covered in other threads I apologize).

How were your libido's during the month you conceived your boys?

I'm asking b/c I find that I have months where it's very high and then months where it's like crickets chirping. I often think maybe the month's where it's high would have made a difference.

atomic sagebrush
December 10th, 2011, 09:01 AM
I have a TMI question to ask (if this has been covered in other threads I apologize).

How were your libido's during the month you conceived your boys?

I'm asking b/c I find that I have months where it's very high and then months where it's like crickets chirping. I often think maybe the month's where it's high would have made a difference.

Libido has proven to be a somewhat squirrely thing for us to get a handle on (my, that was a bizarre sentence. :p) The problem is, I think that for many of us women our libido is wrapped up in a lot of different things, stress, sleep, how attractive we feel, how our husband is treating us that month - that may have zippo to do with testosterone levels.

With women's libido, it may be that the mental aspect is more important than the levels of any hormone circulating in our body. Not that T levels can't increase libido, but that we may not want to ACT on that libido or even notice it's there due to mental factors. I've had many times where my husband was feeling frisky and I wanted to rip his head off for it but then once we got started I got really into it after all and was like, "why did I think I didn't want to do this??" ;) So I'm not sure we can necessarily extrapolate libido to testosterone levels.

That having been said though, you may have read about a phenomenon where more boys are conceived when soldiers are home on leave or right after they return from a war, and it's been proven in at least one study that women have peaks of libido when they have been separated from their man and then reunited (I cannot for the life of me rem. where I read that but I read a big study analyzing women's libido, prior to when I was researching swaying - it's out there somewhere haha) so I do def. entertain the possibility that peaks in libido, even sudden ones, can DEF. sway. More female orgasms? More cervical fluids??? HIgher sperm numbers?? More semen raising pH??? Prob. all of the above, and then some things we don't even know about yet.

When I conceived my DS 1, we hadn't been together for very long and we were both really "pent up". When I conceived DS 2, my husband and I were having kind of a nice period in our marriage and DTD more than normal and I was def. enjoying it (that was the best time in our whole marriage). DS 3, I didn't have any little kids at that point (first two were older) and we were able to DTD and have a little bit of fun with it and I would say my libido was somewhat higher than normal. So at least with the first 3, I prob. did have higher libido those months. Now with DS 4 my libido was in the TOILET! But overall, true for me!!

2LilMenNeed1Princess
January 11th, 2012, 06:48 AM
Any boys mums DTD everyday?

Hi im a mom of 2 boys wit ds1 i was bding all the time as i'd only got wit dh n wasnt even tryin to get preg we used protection most times prob only no protection once r twice. Wit ds2 he was planned and we bd'd everyday from end of af right through O. Hope dis helps!! Just wondering did you sway for ur girls? n wat timing did u use tnx

Alice
January 11th, 2012, 09:07 AM
Hi everyone

Wishing you all the best with your boy sways and sending blue dust....hope this helps you:

All three of my boys were one-hit wonders around the day/day before O, although DH was releasing roughly every other day by himself.

We are both very competitive (example: disagreement over spelling of a word will send me running for the dictionary whatever else I happen to be doing, because I have to be RIGHT), high-T personalities.

Diet-wise, I am a classic boy-maker: pasta with tomato sauce, oily fish like mackerel (smoked! Even worse LOL), red meat at least twice a week, usually more like 4 times a week; tend to season our food too heavily, cook with a lot of garlic and like salty and processed foods like olives, crisps and cured meat. Also eat a lot of eggs and a fair bit of canned stuff like soup. A lot of the things we eat are quite high fat, I run three times a week just so I can have them and not get fat :)

Just looked in my fridge and I have eggs, Cheddar cheese, pickled walnuts, minced beef, serrano ham, mackerel pate, capers and anchovies. That's pretty typical for me.

NewYorkmom
January 11th, 2012, 11:33 AM
I have two boys. I ate 5 mini meals a day. Each meal consisted of at least 25grams of protein, a green vegetable(usually romaine salad) and a healthy fat(1 tablespoon flax seed oil, fish oil, or an ounce of nuts). I salted all of my burgers, salmon, salad and green vegetables. I do not care for dairy. I lifted weights 5X's a week and did a half hour of light /moderate cardio. I lifted heavy weights because I was trying to add some muscle. I used preseed with both and we had sex every other day. I definitely swayed boy without knowing. I hope this helps.

Alice
January 12th, 2012, 09:01 AM
P.S. Forgot to also say, with my first son I was eating a LOT and gaining weight...lost weight just before DS2, however he was conceived just after Christmas when I had decided to take a break from my diet and consequently stuffed my face over Christmas, so I was gaining weight when I conceived him too, then DS3 I was the lightest I have been since my early 20's, but in the few weeks before I got pregnant I had also slackened off and had gained a little weight. So actively gaining weight with all three.

atomic sagebrush
January 12th, 2012, 01:03 PM
Hi im a mom of 2 boys wit ds1 i was bding all the time as i'd only got wit dh n wasnt even tryin to get preg we used protection most times prob only no protection once r twice. Wit ds2 he was planned and we bd'd everyday from end of af right through O. Hope dis helps!! Just wondering did you sway for ur girls? n wat timing did u use tnx

Check out this thread, it might help! http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-discussion/5636-frequency-bd-pink-blue.html

Remember, even if doing frequent BD did get you a boy once before, there's no proof that doing the opposite will do anything at all whatsoever. If you don't lose weight on the Atkins Diet, there's no sense in doing the opposite and start eating nothing but birthday cake - that's not going to help you lose weight either. You have to address waht is really causing the weight issues/swaying blue for you, otherwise you're just spinning your wheels unfortunately.

atomic sagebrush
January 12th, 2012, 01:05 PM
I have two boys. I ate 5 mini meals a day. Each meal consisted of at least 25grams of protein, a green vegetable(usually romaine salad) and a healthy fat(1 tablespoon flax seed oil, fish oil, or an ounce of nuts). I salted all of my burgers, salmon, salad and green vegetables. I do not care for dairy. I lifted weights 5X's a week and did a half hour of light /moderate cardio. I lifted heavy weights because I was trying to add some muscle. I used preseed with both and we had sex every other day. I definitely swayed boy without knowing. I hope this helps.

Hi NYM and welcome. I agree that is almost identical to what I would advise women who want sons to do. :agree: Here's to different factors yielding different results for you! :)

auroara78
January 13th, 2012, 03:46 PM
I would just like to add that I think healthy fats are a good thing to incorporate in a boy sway....marinate your food in olilve oil, eat olives, omega 3's, I know these things are clasically boy sway stuff, but when I think about my diet with my DS's I did eat fish a lot too but drenched in olive oil and black pepper and salt....

HappyLea
January 17th, 2012, 06:33 AM
Hi ladies,

Would just like to wish you good luck in swaying for boys and send you all my blue dust, please send me all your pink dust :D

I am a mummy to 3 beautiful boys and here is how i got them:

DS1 - on pill but missed a hell of a lot and we were just DTD as and when, i had no idea when ov was so not sure when in cycle he was conceived. Our diet was probably more boy diet tho we had just moved in together so takeaways, spag bol, pie n chips, battered chicken, sweet n sour stir frys. Snacking on rubbish.

DS2 - been on diet for over 6 months lost over a stone then when we decided to ttc we stopped dieting and went back to eating crap (knew nothing about swaying at this time) back to takeaways and what i call family foods spag bol, lasagne, roast dinners, pizza etc put weigh back on dtd every other day but didnt know when ov was so not sure when conceived again.

DS3 - Looked a little into swaying when ttc and was going for cut off so tracked ov and dtd only twice about 7days prior to ov and the 3 day prior to ov but diet was the same as above.

Hope this may help you! I had a gastric band last year so have changed the way i eat dramatically and lost about 3 stone so far, slowly but getting there. Hopefully this will help in my sway for pink!

Good Luck ladies and please take all my blue dust in exchange for some pink :D

atomic sagebrush
January 17th, 2012, 11:33 AM
HappyLea, I know a woman who had 4 boys before her gastric band and 2 girls afterwards!

LolaInLove
January 17th, 2012, 11:43 AM
Thanks for posting your stories, boy mamas, and please have every bit of our pink dust in thanks!!! :awe:

HappyLea
January 18th, 2012, 11:19 AM
HappyLea, I know a woman who had 4 boys before her gastric band and 2 girls afterwards!

Oooh thats good to hear! x

Navywife620
January 18th, 2012, 02:13 PM
2 boys without swaying, but everything I did swayed boy without me knowing.

ALWAYS ate breakfast. I LOVE cereal so that is what I had every morning.
We ate out a lot when I conceived both of my boys, therefore making everything we ate very high in sodium.
Ate red meat bananas, tomatoes, potatoes, pre packed rice which is high in sodium.
Always had EWCM before ovulation
Our BD pattern was every other day, giving my hubby a higher sperm count
I always had the Big O when we BD'ed

myGirl
January 28th, 2012, 01:43 PM
I have always eaten a lot of salt and I have 3 boys.

With the first 2, I had been gaining weight, eating out (high fat and high salt) and BD every day or every other day. Lots of EWCM.

With DS#3, I had a 4-day cutoff (he was a Shettles opposite). I was on a low salt/low pot., high calcium/high mag. diet, BUT, I was eating high protein, high fat (salt free butter and olive oil) and lots of nutrient-rich whole grains and veggies. Also, I was eating a lot of Frosted Mini-Wheats (no salt!). I didn't lose weight (stayed the same). He was conceived on the day of the full moon (all my boys were conceived in the full moon phase).

My conclusion is this: if you want a boy, eat salt, gain weight, eat high-fat, high-protein foods, plus lots of nutrient- rich veggies/fruits. Eat your cereal!

Sending you ladies all my blue dust!!!!!

prayforprincess
January 28th, 2012, 08:27 PM
Wow there are a lot of posts.
Well I have 3 boys and no wonder....
Gained about 10 pounds before conceiving (we were always traveling to Hawaii for a few months before I would conceive and drinking those mai tai's and going out all the time, I always gained weight and would conceive the following month I returned home). Drinking a lot of martini's -- I love my cocktails! Love, love, love red meat. Eat it atleast 2-3 times a week. Dinner's are always meat or fish, veggies & salad. Filets, ribeyes, ground beef, chicken, pork/ribs/loin, duck, etc. etc. I love meat and I love fish and eat it 2x a week, salmon at least 2-3x weeks -- sometimes for lunch. NO carb's ever (when and if I eat carb's they are always whole grain!!). Always eat breakfast every day within 1 hour of waking...2 eggs w/ american cheese in a whole wheat low carb wrap. Love it! Sometimes I add smoked salmon in there -- I eat a lot smoked salmon. Lunch is usually chive cottage cheese w/ a 1/2 avocado or dinner left over's (so more meat/fish from last night). I eat healthy but I eat A LOT, as in I have no portion control, but only really with dinner.
Only drank water, tons of seltzer water. Again, no juice cause I am anti sugar and carb's.
For all 3 we would dtd many many times the week of ovulation. Every night the week of ovulation. I do not normally have much EWCM, none that is noticed but I did have a higher ph. And I always got pg the 1st month I got of bc pills. Also, never had the big O when I was trying to get pg -- it takes a lot to get me to O & it was more like wham bam thank you mam attempts. Sometimes j&d and sometimes just went to bed.
Dh drinks tons of beer and hardly eats any veggies, fruits or dairy -- he is a carb and meat eater. Tons of salt and junk like cookies, cake, donuts, chips, pizza, pasta, potatoes etc. I hate cooking him dinner at night cause I make the main dish and then have to make him a side of pasta or potato b/c he won't eat veggies, but I don't eat the carb's. Arrr! In my next life I will marry a man who eats good, healthy gourmet food I like to cook :)

ttcadaughter2012
February 9th, 2012, 03:53 PM
Hey ladies!
So I have 4 boys (aged 9, 4 1/2, 2 1/2 and 15 months). I can't tell you exactly to a t as to timing but I will try to remember it all. With my 1st I had missed a few days of birth control and had unprotected sex those days. My diet wasn't exactly healthy either, however I was in school and barely ate the school's lunch. I want to say my sodium was higher because of the choices of foods, didn't limit myself to what not to eat and what to eat.
Son 2 was 2 weeks of sex everyday I want to say sometimes 2 times a day straight through ovulation. We didn't have money so food choices were more fast food and cheap foods not much meats and if so it was more red meats. Lots of snack foods filled with sodium like chips and popcorn and of course Icecream and chocolate. I really dont like milk so my calcium intake with the boys was more so by eating sandwiches with cheese and icecream I LOVE my icecream.
Son 3 sex was more spread out, once every 3-4 days straight through ovulation and I want to say there was a 5 day break and hit it right on or after ovulation. Diet was horrible (I gained tons of weight prior due to depression) and red meat was my friend lol. Cheese burgers, pizza, fast food.. Tons of icecream and chocolate. Anything fattening.
Lastly son 4 was conceived day of ovulation and there was 5-6 days before without sex. Gained weight again and diet was pretty poor like the others.
I took no vitamins with my boys. Icecream/red meat/ pizza (pepperoni), chicken, rice, pastas, chocolate (AGAIN like ice cream this is my must have), cookies, soda (anything from root beer, orange, gingerale and coke).I didnt diet or exercise. So if you are wanting a boy I definitely suggest eating fatty, gain some lbs and just don't look at labels. I never looked at them with the boys. If it looked yummy and was what I wanted there ya go. Also I can tell you now take out 1 -2 times a week also.. Chinese, Dominos, Burger King, Mc D's.. Anything fatty. Hope this helps someone!

Flava
February 14th, 2012, 11:54 AM
the warming pads are anything like a wheat pillow or a hot water bottle (not too hot) put on lower abdomen for a while each day leading up to O. It helps with circulations and builds up the lining in the uterus so implantation is more likely to be successful. I also continued after O to help with implantation. I read about this a couple of years ago and it worked for me straight away (after ttc for ages). When I have suggested it to others who have been struggling too it seemed to work for them to (a few girls on IG) so maybe worth a try?

Good luck!

How long is 'for awhile" i find this interesting and may want to try it to get bfp fast.And when to start after AF? Anyone else did it?sounds good to me.

LolaInLove
February 14th, 2012, 12:00 PM
How long is 'for awhile" i find this interesting and may want to try it to get bfp fast.And when to start after AF? Anyone else did it?sounds good to me.

I might try this next month also! I bet it really helps with O also because it increases circulation in the ovaries.

girlmom
February 14th, 2012, 12:19 PM
i got 7 girls by swaying boy and my first baby boy by swaying girl! sometimes i think doing the oppisite of whatever you were doing to get girls can help alot too.

Flava
February 14th, 2012, 02:39 PM
I might try this next month also! I bet it really helps with O also because it increases circulation in the ovaries.

Yeah Im thinking to start after AF but for how long ?20 min or so? And just make it a little warm not hot.And stop after like 4 days after O?
im not sure

Flava
February 14th, 2012, 02:41 PM
i got 7 girls by swaying boy and my first baby boy by swaying girl! sometimes i think doing the oppisite of whatever you were doing to get girls can help alot too.

That is great for you! Im sure I would not get a boy swaying pink. And we are doing the opposite actually now.

nks798
February 14th, 2012, 04:06 PM
I have one son and working on my girl sway :) for me, I was probably at my heaviest weight.. when I conceived. I did eat tons of different foods though.. mostly starchy veggies but lots of veggies either way, lots of meat, lots of pizza, hamburgers, fries, ice cream, basically I ate a big variation of everything! high in sodium - I was diagnosed with pre hypertension during my pregnancy.. imagine that. always had lots of EWCM. GL mamas.. sending you all some blue dust!!

Flava
February 15th, 2012, 11:07 AM
Thanks nks! Im also at my heaviest -18lbs but still heaviest before ttc grrrr. Hope it works lol

atomic sagebrush
February 17th, 2012, 12:28 PM
i got 7 girls by swaying boy and my first baby boy by swaying girl! sometimes i think doing the oppisite of whatever you were doing to get girls can help alot too.

I"m glad that worked for you but I think for most people, doing the opposite is not a good sway tactic. Sometimes doing the opposite is worse than what you were doing to begin with...if you don't lose weight on the Atkins Diet, the answer is not to do the opposite and eat only cookies, candy, and cakes - that would only make you gain weight even quicker.

Swaying isn't a black or white thing, there are hundreds if not thousands of variables at play, most of which are utterly out of our control, and every single one of us would eventually have an opposite without swaying.

Flava
February 17th, 2012, 01:25 PM
But the LE and HE diet is opposite or not? I mean I eat a lot more and drink a lot more now. Also different food and drinks.( lot more healthier now)
And I use to be pretty much like a LE diet girl or even lower that that lol.
But girlmom says she got a boy on girl diet and i just can't do that and hope for a boy on it because I got my girls like that.

atomic sagebrush
February 18th, 2012, 12:33 PM
But the LE and HE diet is opposite or not? I mean I eat a lot more and drink a lot more now. Also different food and drinks.( lot more healthier now)
And I use to be pretty much like a LE diet girl or even lower that that lol.
But girlmom says she got a boy on girl diet and i just can't do that and hope for a boy on it because I got my girls like that.

Right, HE and LE are opposite but I'm talking about just the general idea of "I BD on O and got boys/girls so this time I have to do the opposite and BD 17 days before O so I can conceive a girl/boy." KWIM? It's never just a matter of doing the opposite, you have to change your whole body chemistry and diet is the best way we know of to do that.

Re girlmom's diet, I believe she ate a lot of dairy when she conceived girls, and then cut back on that for swaying blue (I am assuming??) and remember, I think dairy may sway blue for a lot of people (and I conceived 4 boys eating tons of dairy so I know it's not a magic bullet for pink.). So by doing the opposite, cutting out dairy to TTC blue, it actually may have backfired. :/ Not that it is her fault in any way and certainly not trying to pick apart hers or anyone's sway, just trying to illustrate how doing the opposite may not work, if what you were doing before was actually BETTER than what the opposite was. The opposite isn't always better, sometimes the opposite is actually worse than what you were doing to start with and it may have had nothing to do with why you got boys or girls to begin with.

Hope that makes sense and HUGE apologies Girlmom for using you as an illustration. :( I hate it when people do that!!! :(:(

Ribbons
February 22nd, 2012, 11:31 PM
Ok, I guess it's time for me to chime in:

With DS1 I was in college and following a pretty typical GIRL diet, but I was crazy stressed and eating a poo-load of sodium (think ramen noodles etc). No dairy, I lived on rice milk. But I was also 19, so my fertility was pretty high.

With DS2, I was 31 and following a primal (caveman) diet. Lots of fresh veggies, LOTS of meat and seafood. My favorite snack was smoked oysters straight out of the tin (gross I know!) Nothing, NOTHING processed... we rarely ate out. Everything was cooked from scratch and I added a copious amount of sea salt to EVERYTHING. We ate liver at least once a week (and occasionally other offal, I won't gross you out with the details LOL) I ate fat on all of my meat, NEVER cut it off or strained it out. Way too tasty! I had just become a WAPF member (Atomic lists the Weston Price pregnancy guidelines in another thread in TTC Boy, and trust me, they run VERY blue...) I was drinking raw milk, not a ton, maybe 1-2 small glasses a day. I was taking cod liver oil, but inconsistently. I also drank quite a bit of red wine, but not sure that's good for blue OR pink (DS2 was an oops after a big holiday wine binge)

FYI - while on the WAPF/primal diet, I gained about 10 pounds - but only 10 pounds. (I was raw vegetarian before - interesting story for another day.) And I've been on it for about 4 years now (well, except for my LE Girl Diet hiatus...). I was historically 120-125 (at 5'5") and on this diet I weighed max 132. (I probably wouldn't have gained that much if I had exercised, but that is SO not me!) So, it CAN be done without gaining a ton of weight. I'm just adding this because I know many ppl are concerned about this!

nini
February 23rd, 2012, 04:50 AM
How I conceived my ds2:
I basically did everything to enhance fertility! I was obsessed with increasing EWCM, so I took EPO with vit E, drank 2l of still water everday(the more fluids, the more EWCM), I also took prenatal vitamines, drank fertility tea. I ended up with tons of EWCM (sorry tmi). I also ate a lot, thinking this would enhance fertiltiy as well. I always have big breakfasts and I am generally a big eater (all things that I avoided when ttcing my dd, by then I knew about the swaying theories). We dtd frequently every 2-4 days. My son was conceveived on the day of the first positive opk, a 1-2 day cut off, dtd doggy style (this is such a cliche, sorry, but my dd did in fact result from a missionary dtd ;). One key thing in my opinion: from starting ttc to my first check up appointment at 6 weeks, I had already gained 5kg in weight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Have all my blue dust girls!!!xx

Irishmom
February 27th, 2012, 01:11 PM
Well i'm a mom to 3 sons and never realised just how boy friendly my diet and lifestyle was until reading this forum.I have been reading up on gender swaying for years but this thread and the mom to girls thread has really opened my eyes as to why i'm boy friendly.

Ds 1: 1999
I knew nothing about ttc and got pregnant by accident. I can recall is had my af on the 15th dec lol (it was my birthday) and i know we concieved ds on christmas eve or christmas morning). At the time i was living away from home and my diet consisted of sweets, junk food and beer lol. I was my slimmest then though.

Ds2: 2004
By this stage i was a classic junk eater. Bread with everything, salt on everything and anything, full fat coke, no dairy except milk on high calorie sugary cereal, chocolate, crisps, anything that was quick and easy. I did'nt excercise and thought that when i had loads of ecwm that, that was when i was ov so i timed dtd then. DOH!

dS3: 2008
BY THE Time i was ttc ds 3 i had been reading up in gender and other sites and thought if i took a few supplements, and drank loads of milk i was swaying lol. I still had the same diet and still was a salt addict. Maybe not as much junk as i got married that year and had lost a lot of weight but that went belly up on our honeymoon which was the month before we ttc ds.Looking back now my slight attempt to sway was silly as again i never knew exactly when i was ov and again i went by ecwm so again it was right at ov.

My diet over the years:
Pizza,crisps,choclate,mayo,full fat everything, salt everywhere,full fat coke,chips with loads of salt and vinegar, i drank cups of tea with 2-3 sugars and full fat milk about 3-4 times a day, green tea,potatoes,gravy, chicken, not much red meat, sausages, eggs, noodles,salted peanuts, cakes, biscuits... god how bad was my diet lol.I'm not as bad now though.

allison
February 27th, 2012, 03:01 PM
I'm new, but thought i'd add my boy info since I now know I was doing everything boy. :) Ds#1 was conceived in Nov, and DS #2 was conceived right around Christmas. So I was eating big meals both times. I was also working when I conceived both boys, and my job required travel. As a result, I was eating fast food every day for lunch. I would try to eat healthy, but even with "healthy" fast food, there's huge amounts of sodium in everything. I ate breakfast every morning (a bagel with butter and dr. pepper), and I snacked through out the day (usually on cookies, brownies, etc.). I don't drink milk, my only source of calcium would be through cheese. I have no idea what the timing was. We were TTC, so we just DTD as often as we could. I had just stopped BCP, so I had no idea when I was ovulating. No lube, and I did O. Hope this helps someone. I leave all my blue dust right here!

(oh...and I'm thin with a great metabolism, so I could basically eat whatever i want and not gain weight, especially 6 years ago when ds#1 was conceived!)

atomic sagebrush
February 28th, 2012, 11:45 AM
I SERIOUSLY think Dr. Pepper makes boys! (not really but I love me some Dr. P!)

Thanks you guys so much for all this info - if you read this one and then read the "how we got girls" thread it really does demonstrate the differences between the two diets!

nicoler
February 28th, 2012, 12:19 PM
I conceived my DS on the 3rd month ttc. After my second bfn in 2 months, I was convinced I was infertile (HA!), so on the month I conceived I had begun taking EPO, Vit E, and B6 daily. I was also taking a daily multivitamin. I dtd every second day with daily attempts at O-2, -1, O, +1. We ran out of lube so I think we used Vaseline. Position was doggy-stye. I got a bfp at 10 dpo.

We were doing kitchen renos in the month I conceived and as a result we ate out nearly everyday (burgers, fries, pizza, Chinese, you name it). My sodium was probably through the roof. I also drank 1 diet Pepsi/Coke daily and had a lot of water throughout the day. Breakfast was NEVER skipped and usually consisted of a bagel (with butter/cream cheese) or a few pieces of whole wheat toast. Lunch was likely the leftover pizza from the night before. I like dairy, so probably also had two or three glasses of milk each day. I don't gain weight easily, so I ate and snacked on junk all the time - feeling hungry was rare!

Wow, I knew I was boy-friendly - but seeing it all written down, it's no wonder I have a sweet little :DS:

envisioned
March 11th, 2012, 03:42 PM
I can't remember if I've posted a Thanks in this thread already but if not, THANK YOU! Seriously my diet is so opposite of this that the whole other girl diet thread was a huge eye opener.

Atomic - apologies if I am completely blind, but is there a spreadsheet or an official diet page on here for TTC a boy?

envisioned
March 11th, 2012, 04:02 PM
ignore that last bit, I just clicked on your signature. I am so slow today.

atomic sagebrush
March 12th, 2012, 12:48 PM
I can't remember if I've posted a Thanks in this thread already but if not, THANK YOU! Seriously my diet is so opposite of this that the whole other girl diet thread was a huge eye opener.

Atomic - apologies if I am completely blind, but is there a spreadsheet or an official diet page on here for TTC a boy?

The complete High Everything Diet plus some meal planning and recipes are available in the DM section or I can message you a simple version if you just want to see what it's about. PM me if you want the simple version.

Sorry I can't post them publicly but a lot of the other sway websites have very sticky fingers as Tamara found out. :(

I'm right in the middle of a HE Diet cookbook and focusing equal time on vegetarian and meat recipes (so there will be something for everyone.) Posting each section as it gets close to complete - Peanut Butter is already up and working on Eggs and Chicken Breast recipes now.

atomic sagebrush
March 12th, 2012, 12:49 PM
Oh also in the Dream Members section there's a thread that compares the success rates between IG and HE diets (HE is at least as effective if not more so but we have not had as many swayers use HE yet of course, so that could be a statistical variation that will average out over time.)

Mrshill
March 23rd, 2012, 06:35 PM
Ds1 - eating out all the time not exercising hardly ever drank cokes if I did never diet. Big tea and waterdrinker. My dh was a manager at a gym was working out pretty often.
Ds- meat and potatoes still eating out snacking tea drinker or water drinker with lemon. Dh doesn't eat veggie or fruits so we didn't really either. If we did it would be canned green beans with salt. Loved loaded baked potatoes. still no working out I am high stressed . Hope this helps.

genieinabottle1
March 29th, 2012, 02:31 AM
I have 2 DS: and ate the same way for them, DTDd the same and used Preseed. My diet, very healthy, not too much sodium because I have hypertension, but meats, fish, veggies, sweets. I don't drink much caffeine or tea. I usually eat a full bowl and a half of cereal (Bran flakes with another sweet cereal like Honey Bunches) with skim milk each morning as soon as I wake up. I do eat a lot of yogurt and ice cream.

DS1: Prenatals months in advance, gained about 5 lbs because I was underweight. I have gobs of EWCM (weeks of it!) and on top of that used Preseed. We DTDd as much as possible, almost everyday through O.

DS2: Prenatals still, Fish oil everyday since being Preggo with DS1. On K supplements because of my blood pressure meds. Still eating cereal every morning. THis time I was still nursing DS #1. I was also taking Vitex but only for about 2 months and taking Red Raspberry leaf tea. My weight was actually a couple lbs less than my normal when I conceived, non intentionally.

Allegra
March 29th, 2012, 03:53 AM
I have only one son, but now that I think of it I couldn't have been more boy friendly.

Diet: I concieved after a honeymoon trip where I ate tons of salty foods and cal rich food. It was our hm so I thought why waste time on counting calories.. :) I had lost quite a bit of weight before the wedding and I was around 19 BMI when conceived but during the honeymoon I had gained a few pounds. So even though I was slim the trend was that I was gaining weight.

The time when I got pregnant was about most stressful of my life in terms of work. I had been promoted and given this huge project of which I didn't know much and I was so stressed worrying often in night time.

We bd quite often but never more than once a day. I always had an orgasm and laid half an hour hips raised.

Also one stupid thing came to mind, hope this is not TMI. At the time I was washing 'down there' with shower soap when showering. I don't know why I was doing that and stopped later when I had yeast infection (soap is very alkaline..).

So no wonder I had a boy. :)

niki38
March 31st, 2012, 11:28 PM
DS1 : Gaining weight, ate tons of peanut M&Ms. Always ate breakfast, every morning had a very large bowl of frosted mini wheats with soy milk. A few weeks before trying I switched from one diet coke a day to diet coke with splenda (just one can a day). Drank a decent amount of water. Took prenatals with DHA (not the fish oil kind, the algae kind). Was on a strong antibiotics for 7 days, O'd right towards the end of the round of abx. Ate a lot of sodium (ate dinner out a lot/mexican food) Had TONS of EWCM. Had intercourse around 3pm (with Big O after he finished), laid in bed propped hips and got on laptop.. and O'd that night around 11:00 pm (I get very bad mittlesmerch) it even woke me up. Does anyone know if having bad mittlesmerch (sp?) is a thing only boy moms get because of hormones?

niki38
April 1st, 2012, 10:30 AM
I also want to add that I had been a vegetarian for 6 years.. I ate a lot of carbs, not a healthy vegetarian. I never ate veg. or fruit. But I did take vitamins and ate breakfast cereal that was foritified with vitamins. Oh and since I was gaining weight when I conceived, I was eating a lot of dairy queen blizzards at night! lol! I did not drink coffee. I never drank milk (only soy milk in my cereal). I never ate yogurt. I ate a lot of the unhealthy soy "meat" products form the grocery store.

atomic sagebrush
April 1st, 2012, 12:39 PM
DS1 : Gaining weight, ate tons of peanut M&Ms. Always ate breakfast, everyday hada very large bowl of frosted mini wheats with soy milk. A few weeks before trying I switched from one diet coke a day to diet coke with splenda (just one can a day). Drank a decent amount of water. Took prenatals with DHA (not the fish oil kind, the algae kind). Was on a strong antibiotics for 7 days, O'd right towards the end of the round of abx. Haed TONS of EWCM. Had intercourse around 3pm (with Ovulation after he finished), laid in bed propped hips and got on laptop.. and O'd that night around 11:00 pm (I get very bad mittlesmerch) it even woke me up. Does anyone know if having bad mittlesmerch (sp?) is a thing only boy moms get because of hormones?

Good question!!! I have horrible pain before O that tends to go away when I O but some months stays around for days after. I know I had it with some of my boys and also with my girl so my gut would say no but I'll start a thread in the Gender Swaying section and see if anyone has any other experiences.

Just so you know, you can get mittelschmertz before, during, and after O. There is no way to know on basis of O pain when you O.

envisioned
April 8th, 2012, 10:24 PM
Every time I read this thread it is painfully obvious to me I need to eat more aka better. Thanks for all the posts ladies!

atomic sagebrush
April 9th, 2012, 11:33 AM
The awesome thing about this thread is that it really does not seem to make much if any difference WHAT you're eating - there were people doing dairy, some vegetarians, some carnivores, some junk food junkies, some health food advocates - but they were all eating a lot of cals of a wide variety of foods, and eating very regularly!!!

RNMama
April 11th, 2012, 10:21 AM
Well I guess I'll share the things I did to get my two boys. I knew nothing about swaying but now can see why I have boys. I was overweight and ate alot. Not much exercise. Loved salty/sugary foods. Love carbs. Lots of sodium. Fast food. Drank alot of diet pop. I took mucinex, had sex right on O day. Propped my hips for 1/2hour after. Missionary position both times. Had huge orgasms with both. Ds2 was a surprise I was on bcp but wasn't great at taking them religiously. So most of this stuff applies to how we got ds1 although my diet was the same. Dh stands all day for his job and wears boxer briefs. Oh and I did drink a ton of coffee too like a pot a day. Dh did too. I took prenatals too. I'm seeing a trend. Lol. Definitely hoping for pink next time. Boys are awesome though.

nicolerey15
April 27th, 2012, 09:18 AM
Thought i would add mine too. With DS1 I was not swaying just trying to get pregnant so drinking lots of decaf green tea and using preseed and taking a prenatal, no caffeine. I am a slender person and have always been able to eat alot so i always eat the 3 main meals and then lots of snacking especially candy and lots of processed food like crackers and chips (lots of salt) and love milk/dairy. We also BD'd a ton, every day or every other day from end of AF to past O and i always sat with my hips propped for awhile afterwards.

HappyMedium
May 14th, 2012, 05:14 PM
I have 4 boys...I swayed boy without knowing it. I have to say that timing was not a factor though, because looking back at all my charts, we were all over the place. Once here, 2 day cutoff here, all the time, etc....so..Not sure how important timing is.
Diet with all of them included red meats, cheeseburgers, fries, full sugar pop, coffee, chips, salt if on the food--I don't salt anything. Fast food as well. I am not a milk drinker, so swaying pink has been an eye opener.
DS1 no workout
DS2 no workout
DS3 working out/lifting weights
DS4 had been dieting and doing cardio

I always ate 3-6 meals a day depending on what I was eating. ALways ate breakfast, Always ate until I was full or over full. I put on muscle very easily and am pretty lean all the time. Not working out or eating my protein has been STRANGE-- starting to feel like Angelina Jolie. LOL I am a high stress Type A personality, so that is another change in trying to have more control over my behavior and stress less, relax more. ALWAYS drank Green tea and had ABUNDANT EWCM most of AF-O...very slippery. Ate 2-3 bananas a day, as well as apples. Drank regular sugar pop. Ate bags York Peppermint Patties, Took B100 vitamins, baby aspirin and prenatal. HTH!!!!!!

laura1989
May 15th, 2012, 09:06 AM
Hi, i have 2 boys, i didnt sway for either. With both i was eating quite a healthy varied diet, eating pretty much what i wanted with lots of meat (mainly red meat everyday). With both my boys i either remained the same weight or gained a little. With both boys i was having a little to drink at the weekends (a blue vodka drink which is packed with sugars). DS1 we were BD everday (sometimes 1/2times a day) for at least 2 weeks (dont know when i ovulated as didnt chart it). With DS2 we were BD on my peak days according to my fertility monitor & i was taking vitex. My fiance does weights every evening & i didnt exercise at all.

missgozo
June 1st, 2012, 08:37 AM
Hi, I have two sons, 12 years apart and although I did not sway for either I know at both points I was a massive sweet eater, penny sweets, haribos, any sugar like that I could get, I would get through far to many and always lots of meat of some sort at least once a day. Very little milk as I did not like it. With my first son I never had yoghurts or cheese at that time either, but a few with my little one now. Good luck to you all of you!

The Anchor
June 1st, 2012, 11:00 AM
I swayed for my son...although it turns that the HE isn't a diet at all for me...it's my lifestyle. I love meat! Dairy! Salt! Low sugar, we don't even have soda in our house. Lots of juice though. Protein drinks every morning. What really did it for me (at least in my mind) was the RJ/BP. I'd only been taking it for about 6 weeks, but I just felt "boy"ish somehow. Maybe it affected my hormones...

bigchrista
June 4th, 2012, 03:05 PM
I'm new to the site...I have 4 boys but have concieved atleast 5 (I've had 4 losses with loss #3 we had genetic testing done and discovered he had an extra 12th chromasome)

I didn't sway for any of them, like many others had the boy diet. I LOVE and ate salt, butter, tomatoes, hamburgers, steak, spaghetti, were part of our weekly rotation. I am a junk food junkie. Chips, cookies, cake, brownies. I always had lots of watery CM and sometimes EWCM. Timing doesn't matter as one of my boys was concieved 4 days before O using the pull out method. We have also concieved our boys by bd-ing through O.

I think my boys are from all the salt and red meat. Good luck to you blue swaying ladies. ;-)

pink carol
June 7th, 2012, 03:39 AM
With DS 1 I was very much a textbook swayer. Not the salty type, but did use salt liberally and we also ate out a lot, so I had no control over my salt intake. I've always been in good shape but never skinny, always lean and tall.
I practised a lot of yoga, so my muscles were strong. Never liked cardio.
Ate plenty of red meat, potatoes, tomatoes... Little dairy...and healthy vitamins.
I did not take my temperature at the time but my son was conceived when I had very fertile, stretchy and abundant EWCM, following the advice of a doctor friend. I have to add that despite being 41 I always have several days of very fertile CM. Even while swaying girl and taking two or three antihistamines a day I still had EWCM! Nothing can dry up my CM!
I used KY jelly. I was also a big fan of green tea, which I've had to cut for my girl sway.
DS2 was conceived as a failed girl sway. I became a vegetarian, followed a combination of French and IG diet, though not strictly. I guzzled diet coke and Ocean Spray but looks like nothing could make me acidic enough. Looking back, I ate plenty of whole grains and very healthy, contrary to LE diet, so maybe that could have made the difference. In order to boost my fertility I relied strongly on wholewheat noodles, brown rice and everything wholesome.
I kept my yoga practice and could not bring myself to do the least cardio, so I had no difference in my weight. Also, I took too many healthy supplements.
I would not trust the ion theory because I surrounded myself with negative ions and you see... I also used pink lube and jelly and that did not work either. My baby was conceived with a 3 and a half day cut-off.
So, you see, a boy may be produced under the right circumstances but then also as a failed sway.

NCBeachyGrl
June 17th, 2012, 09:46 PM
With DS1 I was never cooking so everything was processed food. My favorite meals were salsa and cheese dip with tortilla chips, frozen pizzas, can green beans/corn, steak on grill with loaded potatoe, macaroni out of box, frozen meals, lots of sweets like pop tarts, cookies, brownies. I was never overweight because I am tall and naturally thinner, but I should have been with what I ate. Chips and dip was a staple and ranch and ketchup on everything! And he was conceived on super bowl Sunday day before O and DH and I only DTD 2 times a week at most.

With DS2 I was healthier but it was always meat, carb, veggie with everything. I still didn't cook much but DH always eats good so we ate meat, meat, and more meat and I still ate my chips and dip daily.

sosapop
June 27th, 2012, 08:46 PM
Hi-

I will help out as well, since the girl mom's have been so informative to how they got their little girls!

For DS1, I began to eat full fat foods! I had read somewhere before trying that eating fuller fat food rather than reduced fat low-cal items would up your chances in conceiving. I SO wanted to get pregnant that I switched out my nightly ice cream for full fat! I don't know if it was our first try, but it seemed that way with DS1 & DS2, I got pregnant VERY fast!

I have always been a very nutritional eater! I would begin with breakfast either a peanut butter banana smoothie, english muffin with pb and banana. I always made sure I had some sort of protein at breakfast. Lunch was usually a turkey sub or healthy sandwich and dinner has always consisted of a lean protein (fish or chicken), dark green veggie and a carb, although I always eat a smaller carb portion. I am not a drinker, rarely have alcohol and never drink diet drinks. At dinner my husband drinks Gatorade and that's what I would normally drink along with Lemonade.

With DS1 I concentrated on weights more than cardio, I really didn't get into running until after DS1. But weights have always been my focus.

I took prenatals before conceiving.

My DH has always worn tight briefs, and he also really eats healthy with more of an emphasis on protein - he drinks shakes (1-2 a day with meals). He never does cardio, but focuses on weights at the gym.

Hope that helps! Good luck :highfive:

boys,boys.boys!!!
June 30th, 2012, 03:27 PM
I do have PCOS so that prob did help sway my3 boys but, im definatly a grazer, ive NEVER gone without breakfast until going on the LE diet, and other than the 3 times when ive had to have a glucose test during pregnancy. im not heavy as i weighed about 120lb down to 110lb but i always ate every meal and constantly snacked inbetween and always ate until i was tuffed lol!!. Wudnt have said i was a big meat eater until trying to sway for a girl, i now realise i ate a TON of chicken and every meal was carboriffic!! breakfast: 2 slices of toast, dinner: a sanwich or toasted sandwich and crisps (chips) tea: my husband likes a cooked dinner so, meat, alot of mash and veg (dont really eat red meat so wud cook myself chicken instead) i salted all veg during cooking and again when i went to eat it, and had mashed potatoes alot!!! i didnt work out, but i am naturally on the muscluar side. and also have alot of ewcm. not sure how great the info is but hope it helps.

canuckinaustralia
July 3rd, 2012, 05:33 AM
Hi everyone!
I'm new here and TTC a girl - but I loved the "How we got our girls" thread over there and thought I'd throw in my 2 cents over here :)

I have two sons - ages 1.5 and 3.5. My weight with DS1 was about 5lbs over my usual weight, I was taking prenatals for months ahead of conception (along with other supps - vit C/D/etc). I am vegetarian, and have been for 10 years... BUT I am very conscious of getting loads of protein and healthy fats (lots of dairy, avocado, nuts, lentils, beans, eggs, etc). My caloric intake was definitely waaaay over what I'm doing now on the TTC LE diet. I ALWAYS ate breakfast - usually a boiled egg with whole wheat toast, oatmeal, whole grain toast with peanut butter, or cereal (usually with fruit). I have always exercised (running) a moderate amount - 3-5x per week for 30-60 min. I am naturally muscular. In terms of DTD, we had two or three attempts a couple of days apart, had loads of EWCM, had a big O every time, left hips propped, etc. I never used lube or jellies or anything like that.

Conception of DS 2 was under similar circumstances except I was 5lbs lighter than with DS1 (my usual weight) and gaining a bit as I was finishing up breastfeeding DS1. Diet was the same. This time we had about a week of abstinence and then DTD 3 times in the two days around ovulation. Always propped hips, had loads of EWCM, I always had big O, no jellies of any sort.

I drink only decaf coffee (with loads of milk), black tea, and no diet ANYTHING - I hate aspartame.

No wonder I have boys, hey? ;)

Mum23boys
July 3rd, 2012, 06:15 AM
Hi I have 3 boys :-) Im a big snacker - probably only have 1 proper meal a day sometimes 2 but always eating / picking at crisps or convenience foods like mini susages or anything else thats in the fridge, pasties, cheese and crackers, cereal bars, more crisps. My evening mealis a ig carb loaded meal like spag bol, chilli, potatoes or pasta etc and i always eat before bed like toast or bread and pate, crisps etc.
Am thinking of ttc this year or next and how the hell ill manage a girl diet is beyond me as i hardly have breakfast anyway and dont eat alot so cant be overdoing my calories im thinking maybe its the snacking that is my blue sway..... oh and all 3 were conceived day before or on ov day

Peachy
July 3rd, 2012, 11:25 AM
I'm Mum to 2 boys, didn't sway for either. Though in hindsight a very boy diet. Loved salt- on eggs, chicken, potatoes etc. also huge crisps and chips fan, usually ready salted, popcorn too. Drank coke, not alot of coffee. Was drinking green tea at the time. Loved red meat, definitely few times a week. Lots of fruit and some veg. Lots of fast foods. I'm naturally slim and would have stayed the same weight, a little weight on after ds1. I took vit b12 as I was low in this, no other supps. Exercise was sporadic, cardio and yoga. Used opks for ds2 and bd day of + and day after. Hope this is helpful.

atomic sagebrush
July 7th, 2012, 01:08 PM
Hi I have 3 boys :-) Im a big snacker - probably only have 1 proper meal a day sometimes 2 but always eating / picking at crisps or convenience foods like mini susages or anything else thats in the fridge, pasties, cheese and crackers, cereal bars, more crisps. My evening mealis a ig carb loaded meal like spag bol, chilli, potatoes or pasta etc and i always eat before bed like toast or bread and pate, crisps etc.
Am thinking of ttc this year or next and how the hell ill manage a girl diet is beyond me as i hardly have breakfast anyway and dont eat alot so cant be overdoing my calories im thinking maybe its the snacking that is my blue sway..... oh and all 3 were conceived day before or on ov day

Eating constantly all day long, even if it's not proper meals, keeps your blood sugar constantly high and would sway blue.

Dancin Machine
July 8th, 2012, 04:04 AM
This is a late post, I'm new on here but I'm a mom to two boys and so grateful for the girl moms to share their stories I thought I'd share mine. I was not trying to sway with either pregnancy. I wasn't even TTC with our first. I know not everything makes sense with conceiving my boys but I'll share it all anyway.

With DS1 I was 31 years old, at a healthy weight and working out with a personal trainer a few times a week. I think I still managed to compensate for calories I was burning by overeating at times. We live in Southern CA and do spend a good amount of time outside. I was occasionally taking a multivitamin and even taking weight loss pills at the time, I'm not sure which ones, but no prenatal. I have always loved dairy and drink lots of milk, always eat breakfast, probably cereal with milk or yogurt. I do tend to binge from time to time on sweets and salty snacks, but I don't salt my food. I never drink soda, coffee or tea. I drink lots of water, milk and occasionally juice. I don't like anything artificially sweetened. I don't think I was a big meat eater at the time and I probably frequently had snacks at night. I always think it was so funny how much I was drinking alcohol around the time we conceived (late June). We have never had sex frequently, I think I get interested around time of O, even though I never watched my cycles really closely, I'm very irregular. But I think we usually DTD very close to O. Female big O, yes :) No lube. I always jump and dump. My husband is a big salty snack eater, at the time was drinking alcohol too, probably mostly beer. He wears boxer briefs, is overweight. He never drinks milk but loves cheeses. Does not like vegetables. Loves meat. He's also a computer guy so we always have a computer on in the bedroom.

With DS2, I was 33 and had just stopped breastfeeding after a year and did not want to conceive in April and have a Christmas baby so we avoided April and gave it a go mid May and I conceived. I was just trying to time it to get pregnant at all so I was probably close to O but again I'm so irregular I didn't know for sure. I know that time I did not J&D but propped up my hips after. Female big O, yes. I think it was missionary position for both DS1 and DS2. I still had baby weight on, about 10 pounds and was not losing, in fact I'm sure I was gaining b/c I had just stopped BFing and I remember thinking, wow that was really helping keep the weight off. I know I was drinking lots of milk and other dairy b/c I couldn't have it while BF DS1 for his reflux and I had just finished BF so I could have it again. Exercising little, walking a few times a week. Not drinking alcohol close to this time. I was taking prenatal vitamins when we conceived DS2 because we were trying, but not with DS1.

May not be important but just in case, prior to conceiving DS1, I remember wanting to get my hormone levels checked. I had been on BCP for 5 years and had started getting hot flashes. I went off them and tried condoms or diaphragm for a while but eventually got lazy (hence DS1) and I had always been irregular when not on BCP but after coming off I remember my periods being very far apart, so much so that I was worried if we would be able to have children at all. Low and behold I got pregnant. Now I'm really curious what my hormone levels would have been.

I come from a family of two girls and my husband is the oldest of 3 sisters, one of whom has 3 boys. His side of the family now has 9 grandsons and NO granddaughters! The pressure is on. I think I would love to have a girl someday, but another boy would be wonderful too :)
(I didn't mean for this to be so long!)

atomic sagebrush
July 14th, 2012, 03:19 PM
Thanks Dancin! We want to keep these threads going and get as many experiences as we can all in one place, so everyone please feel free to add your experiences even tho the thread was started last year.

Tiffani3
July 18th, 2012, 06:57 AM
Hi girlys thought I'd add mine I hope it helps!
Ds1 was conceived second month after m/c felt like it was because I was so thin so started eating really heathy loads of full fat milk, meat with every meal really salty foods loads of veg etc.
Ds2 was my ooops baby was going through such a bad time with dh and never ate breakfast, lunch I would have a bowl of crunchy nut corn flackes full fat milk also would drink tea with full fat milk too! Dinner would have been takeaways, or meat potatoes veg not massively full of salt but I do love chrisps and would snack on the if I was hungry
Ds3 was conceived just after Christmas so had been stuffing my face for weeks and was ttc so thought it best to carry on eating loads, still loads of full fat milk in my tea but was still in the habit of not eating breakfast!
Oh and I love my sauces any meal I eat had to have at least two different flavours eg salad cream/tomato ketchup/BBQ sauce/sweet chilli/mayo I love sauce mmmm
Oh lastly I only buy olive oil to cook with or salted butter

I hope any of that helped you GL xxxx

Ktiguewantspink
July 18th, 2012, 04:02 PM
Hi everyone,

I have found everyones else's information so helpful so I wanted to add my experience.

Okay with ds1 I was on birth control for ten years straight and never stopped it or missed a day so when i wanted to have kids i was confused as to why my period never returned once i stopped taking the bcp. Anyway I thought something was wrond so i had testing and ended up at the RE being diagnosed with low estrogen caused by lack of nutrients or from over exercising. Either way they put me on clomid, encouraged me to eat high fat, full dairy and stop exercising so i did. I began looking into how to increase my fertility (little did i know it swayed blue) so i took mucinex, robitussim, drank green tea, full dairy ect and dtd everyother day as encouraged by the RE. Well we got pregnant. We dtd the everyother day including day of positive opk and ovualtion day. We also used preseed, and my RE had prescribed estrace to take on my fertile days to help with the dryness.

Now for Ds2 I had just stopped breastfeeding ds1, i was taking 1000mg vitex, 200mg b6, b12, prenatal, fish oils, drinking green tea and grapefruit juice. I was also taking maca too. At the time i was trying to bring on ppaf as well and since I am such a worrier I requested provera to bring on my period so I could try and get pregnant. So while taking all of these vitamins everyday and than provera, I got my period and than toy soy 100mg days 3-7 and ovulated on day 28 and low and behold we got pregnant again. I must add that I also used the instead cup and left it in all night. We also dtd everyother day and day of positive opk and ovulation day.

Now as for diet, I eat super healthy and I always count my calories. I always stayed around 1500 but I ate more since I exercised for about five days a week. A typical day of food for me is as follows:
breakfast: coffee and green tea with a banana
lunch: two packet of oatmeal or two cups plus an apple, rice cakes or a luna bar.
Snack: always carrot sticks and sometimes more fruit
Dinner: chicken with whole grain brown rice, broccolli, whole grain pasta with tomato sauce, hamburgers, steaks and potatoes, salads with chicken, chickem fajitas and even oatmeal
Snacks: sugar free jello, skinny cow ice cream, choclate pudding, regualr ice cream and than sometimes oatmeal or fortified cereal with skim milk

I have to add that i never missed a day without oatmeal until now while swaying pink and I miss it dearly! I love oatmeal and I am really hoping that skipping it can only help.

I hope this was helpful and if i missed something, just ask.

mummypink
July 20th, 2012, 06:42 AM
Hi,

I have two boys without swaying so thought I would share and sprinkle lots of blue dust for you all in exchange for some pink! :)

With both my boys I started drinking decaf tea/ coffee while ttc and throughout my pregnancies, I also took a pregnancy multivitamin and generally did my best to eat well - lots of fruit, veg etc. I have never been a big salt eater in terms of adding it to food but I remember with ds1 I was eating more crisps than I probably normally would, not sure why! I love chocolate and was into baking brownies at the time I was ttc ds one, I had got married the year before and had probably gained about 7 lbs from then to the point we were ttc. We dtd every day from af finishing through to a few days before my next af was due and fell pregnant the first month of trying with ds1.
With ds2 I was kind of trying to sway pink, although I hadn't read much about it other than some Shettles stuff, I didn't really know when I was ovulating but I thought we stopped about 3 days before to sway pink. It took 3 months to fall pregnant with ds2 using this method. My first little boy was only 8 months old, I had lost most of my pre pregnancy weight doing fairly intensive aerobic exercise but not all and again I had cut out caffeine and was taking the multivitamin. I was walking a lot too, going out and about with the pram.

I cut out alcohol with both two from the point we started ttc. My first son was conceived doing missionary with legs propped up afterwards, my second son was conceived doing spoons with a J&d afterwards.
Generally I am much more of a white meat / fish eater, I haven't ever really eaten a lot of red meat. I've always been on the slim side too, I'm generally a size 10 (UK) and was only a 12 for a short period of time after giving birth to my sons. So weight wise I'm not talking about huge gains and losses.

My husband generally takes a multivitamin with zinc which I have now learned may sway blue as well.

Good luck to you all, hope that helps! xx

Mrs_P
July 26th, 2012, 04:45 PM
If it is of any help to anyone

DS1 i'd been really ill (ME) so was trying to regain myself eating really well, tons of vitamins. We'd only been together 3ish years so dtd was still new and exciting and regular lol. No idea of when it happened but we had a whoopsie once in the month and ds1 arrived 9 months later.

ds2 was taking prenatal vits, fell pg month before our proper sway dtd every few days was intending to try. Had lost a lot of weight just before pg as ds1 was about 1 before i started to loose the weight, was ideal size when caught with ds2.

ds3 was our 'failed' girl sway trying shettles. Lost a lot of weight just before catching (i was getting married in the december so wanted to fit into my dress, so about two dresses sizes in the run up) was relaxing and getting ready for wedding all hard work had been done and we caught first month of our try two weeks before our wedding. Was taking prenatal vits and eating well. Loved salt so didn't really manage to give this up but did give up my diet coke which i also really loved. DH gave up caffine and we attempted to dtd every day for fr but missed a few days so we had 4 days one off three days one off two days and stopped morning before i got my postive opk. DH wore briefs, hot baths and we dtd middle of night when he'd been asleep and was naturally really hot - made no difference DS3 is all boy

Positions with all three have been different but i always went straight to sleep no j&d with all three. Interestingly i have had little to no stress around the time all three boys were made and feel pg first try every time so no stressing over bfp etc either

Month does not affect me ds1 caught in april, ds2 in september ds3 in early december

Any questions happy to help please ask

dreamingpink77
July 27th, 2012, 07:09 AM
Hi everyone, this thread seems great and I wanted to add my experience when I had my boy hoping that it might be of help. When we conceived ds, I had some coffees during the day, ate lots of biscuits and cakes. Ate take away foods like pizza or burgers during the week and the day we probably conceived had a hot dog just before ttc. We probably conceived the day of O and were bedding every other day. I never did exercise but was not overweight, infact I weighed about 52kilos, which is very good for my height. It was summer when we conceived so I'm sure I had cold showers rather than hot ones. Had hips propped for some time after ttc to avoid loosing sperm. Had loads of EWCM back than. All in all, I was eating quite some calories during the day a lots of sugar too.

Wish you all moms to be a healthy pregnancy with lots of blue dust! :car: Me on the other hand....really really hope to add some pink in our family! :ttcgirl:

dreamingpink77
July 27th, 2012, 07:12 AM
By the way...forgot to mention that I rarely ate veggies and took some summer fruits, like melons, watermelons. Also ate meat every Sunday and once or twice during the week, so actually I was probably swaying blue without even knowing! Did not take any milk but had occasional yoghurt!

Paiper
August 20th, 2012, 06:10 AM
Well here is my story. I have two DS.

I never ate red meat. (This maybee helps ladies who struggle) I hardly ate potatoes.
I love salt and put a lot of it additionally to every meal. I wasn't overweight (BMI=22) but I was eating the whole day.
I always had breakfast (Weetabix cereals with whole milk), then at 10 am I had some bread with Philadelphia and tomatoes.
For lunch I mainly ate a salad with 2 slices of bread (full grain) and a vegetable soup. In the afternoon I ate fruits or choclate.
For dinner I had pasta or rice with fish/chicken/turkey and some vegetables.
I don't like coffee or diet sodas and was mainly drinking lots of tab water.
I took additional supplements for overall health and didn't know that they would sway blue.
I took fresh royal jelly (good for fertility and has a lot of B vitamines) and Aloe Vera Gel (contains about 280 different vitamines).

I didn't do any exercise, but I was walking about 1 kilometer (0,62 miles) per day and was using stairs (not the lift) whenever possible.
I had lots of EWCM. With DS1 we BD every day in the morning and with DS2 every 2-3 days and stopped 3 days before ovulation.

I hope this helps!

Sihaya
August 20th, 2012, 11:26 AM
This thread and the corresponding one by girl moms are so eye-opening! I have two boys and had such a strongly blue-swaying diet and lifestyle with both of them without meaning to at all.

DS#1: I had been researching TTC for over a year and knew everything about how to best get pg (but didn't hear about swaying until after we conceived). We had been charting for months, had both gone off alcohol and caffeine, and were doing everything possible to give ourselves the best chances of conception. The month we got pregnant we weren't officially trying yet, but decided in the heat of the moment to risk it even though we knew ovulation was imminent. I ovulated the following day. We were DTD with protection every 5-6 days before that incident, so no abstinence or FR for DH. I also propped my hips for 20 minutes afterwards.

I was exercising moderately a few times a week in preparation for TTC. My diet was so boy-friendly it's not even funny. I has recently started the WAPF diet after struggling for years with what has been called 'disordered eating' (not quite an eating disorder, but not healthy at all either). So, when we conceived, I actually had an alarm on my phone set to go off every 2-3 hours to remind me to eat something and take my organic, food-based, 3x/day prenatal vitamins. As someone mentioned a little ways back in this thread, WAPF diet sways heavily blue: high calorie, high protein, high fats - but all healthy, high-salt, lots and lots of meat, no artificial anything, low in pesticides, and tons of dairy, but only full-fat.

In addition, I was working as a nanny for a woman who I did not get along with at all, but I loved the kids. I distinctly remember the feeling of every day being a challenge to overcome and the satisfaction of being up to the task. I think I have had high T most of my life, but it was definitely at a peak in the months before we conceived.

DS#2: I had two miscarriages between my boys and so even though I knew about swaying, I decided not to try it in favor of carrying a baby of any gender to term. When we conceived DS#2, we'd been trying for 3 months and again doing everything possible to improve the chances of conception, including having DH switch from briefs to boxer briefs. We DTD two days before O, the day of O, and the day after O. I propped my hips for 20 minutes afterwards.

We both cut out alcohol and caffeine again. I was eating a special diet for healing adrenal fatigue that included eating every two hours and was even healthier and more boy-swaying than the WAPF diet I ate with DS#1. Still eating tons of full-fat dairy, including raw milk. A part of the diet for adrenal fatigue was that in addition to heavily salting my foods and eating foods naturally high in sodium, I was taking a teaspoon of sea salt in a cup of water twice a day. I was also taking a TON of vitamin supplements in addition to my whole-foods prenatal.

As far as T levels, the project of healing my adrenal fatigue was another thing that I saw as a challenge to overcome and was very satisfying to work on and "win." With both boys, I was obsessive about charting and testing and couldn't let myself relax about it at all.

In addition to all of the factors I had that got us our boys, my DH is one of three boys. His only brother with children has a boy. His dad is the youngest of 7 children (GGGBBBG) and his only brother with children also has a boy.

Lolly55
October 1st, 2012, 11:15 PM
Hoping I can help some want to be blue mums.

DS1 was conceived by BD every day or other day through O. We had just come out of christmas/new year and it was a lot of partying/food/alchohol etc. I was only walking for excercise, hubby was a little overweight and drinking and smoking. We always ate really well, big serves but generally home cooked - stir frys, casseroles, LOADS of BBQs and I NEVER miss a meal.

DS2 I swayed girl. I upped my diary (2-3 big glasses on milk a day), took all the supps for 3 months, tried to dtd frequently with a cut off but O'd early and ended up with 1 day cutt off. I was pretty much eating the same but trying to avoid the IG no-nos (tomatos, bananas etc). DH changed nothing but he was a bit sick at the time which I thought could help lower T levels.

I always jump and dump and with DS1 dtd doggie, DS2 missionary no O.

I dont believe position sways.

After my failed girl sway I think the key is def the LE diet which I will be trying this time for my sway. Boy mums my advice is to EAT as much as you can, I eat so much as I find it hard to put on weight am lucky in that I have a very quick metabolism. I dont eat much junk though, I eat a lot of really good food and drink min 2 litres water a day.

hbcd123
October 9th, 2012, 09:59 AM
I have a DS and a DD and after reading about swaying i can see the differance beetween my lifestyle. when i concieved my DS it was first ov after a mc i think it must have been on ov day because i paniced ( wanted realationship to end and didnt want to be tied to him through a child) and took the MA pill but i still got pregnant so the egg must have been there for it not to have worked! i was at my heaviest adult weight of 165lbs and i was gaining (comfort eating due to unhappy relationship) frequent dtd every day and i never exercised i had tons of EWCM and i was 9 years younger! constant arguments with ex so prob had high T levels planning my secret escape all the time!! all very different when i concieved my dd however i did a lot of boy sway when i concieved her I was lifting weights 2x a week and cardio 2x a week eating breakfast (heavily fortified) drinking lots of strong tea and i ate meat and fish almost daily! but i was at my smallest and looseing weight and i never ate past 3pm i was always hungry! and cold lol!! HTH

prayforaboy
October 16th, 2012, 12:40 PM
Tahnks for the information.

Rainbow baby
October 17th, 2012, 09:03 AM
No swaying. No added salt but heaps because I am a fast food lover but never added to any meals. Hate anything healthy, don't excercise , over weight, coffee lover at least 3 a day, Loads of ewcm and tested ph is 6-7 now. Love meat. Kids allergic to most meats so we eat beef probably most nights in some form. Don't drink much water at all and a lot of soda/soft drink. Love breads and cereals! Dh is exactly the same :) Oh we both don't drink at all maybe one or twice a year!

meeks32
October 17th, 2012, 08:30 PM
Hi all,

I have been reading this website for a while as we are TTC a girl after 2 boys. This thread and the girl one are so vital, I thought I had to post my experience for other mums TTC boy.

DS1 - No idea about O as I was completely naive to that all back then, frequent bd since we were on honeymoon, every other day, sometimes twice. I drank alcohol but only sometimes, and not that much. I had 1 'real' coffee a day (latte) and drank decaf tea frequently. Also drank green tea and chai tea made from leaves. Hardly any dairy in my diet due to lactose intolerance, so I drank a LOT of soy milk. I drank a lot of orange juice. I took vitamins daily, had been on centrum for years. I ate super healthy, lots of vegetables and fruit, very mixed and varied diet. I was eating slightly more calories back then, than with DS2, i'd say around 1800 - 2000 a day. If I ever binged it would be salty things like chips and dip, or I would sneak some soft cheese despite being intolerant. I did eat a lot of red meat, chicken and fish, and rarely ate vegetarian dishes. Lots of pasta, tomatoes, spinach etc because I cook lots of italian food. NEVER skipped breakfast, but didn't ever eat a lot either. I had musli or oats for breakfast or if in a rush, toast with vegemite (salt!). Never drank soft drink (soda) and watched salt intake as a rule, however like I said my binge foods were salt-laiden, even though I didn't binge often. We were on the pill and taking malaria tablets for holiday o/s, didn't know malaria tablets can cancel the pill and hey presto - pregnant!

DS2 - I had read a tiny bit about swaying and this time bubs was planned, I was on prenatal multivitamin AND high dose folic acid, no idea why but my doc put me on 5000mg (megafol 5). I tried the shettles method for TTC girl, 3-5 days before - FAILED! Got pregnant 2nd cycle off pill. However I do think my diet was still bad for TTC girl. I was still drinking orange juice daily, still having coffee and tea, lots of soy milk and lots of varied fruit and veg. Little dairy.

I believe my ph was naturally around 7 (higher with ds1 possibly) because this time, before I started swaying for baby 3, I tested ph and it was 7. After cranberry and acidophilus (inner health +) It was 5, and with diet now 4 to 4.3. I can see the supplement's biggest benefit is changing ph. I was eating 1200-1400 calories a day and going for walks most days. Fruits included banana, apple, orange, grapes, mango etc. Veggies included potatoes (often), avocado, spinach, tomato, broccoli, peas, corn, carrots etc. Ate lots of olives and other salty things like spicy tomato salsa.

With both boys I had lots of CM (maybe due to soy intake).

This time i'm heavily on dairy, stopped soy milk entirely, on cranberry, folic acid and inner health +, was on calcium but stopped after reading lots on here about how it may not work and may even increase nutrients so much it sways boy. Focussing on reducing salt and potassium and eating 1200-1500 calories a day. Jogging. No red meat, chicken, fish. Bland diet with few veggies and few fruits (only approved ones like raspberries, eggplant etc). Lots of milk and cheese, despite the ill effects. Loosing weight. Bd once in 7 days, so trying once a week before predicted O, then trying for O+12 as well. No rush to get pregnant as this is my last so I don't mind reducing my changes by fewer attempts. Any tips?

atomic sagebrush
October 18th, 2012, 10:50 AM
Meeks, if you don't mind starting a new thread and asking q's in there, I would appreciate it!

Tiggerian
October 26th, 2012, 10:08 AM
I didn't even know about swaying when I got preggers with my two boys, but looking back I can definately see a pattern!

My eldest boy wasn't planned, but he was conceived around xmas/new year and well.. I'm a total sucker for calorific christmas food! its start about november with my hording and eating everything from cakes, cookies to cooked dinners. Anything Christmas - put it in front of me and I'll have inhaled it in second! When I conceived my eldest I found out (after) that in a matter of months I had gained at least 10 lbs! I have to admit greek Souvlakis had a lot to do with it (lots of meat, salt og probably quite fatty), lots of chocolate, sweets, food on the go mainly.

With my youngest son I had just lost tons of weight and was looking very skeletal, not a good look for me, so I decided to fatten myself up a bit (believing it was better for the baby I was trying to make). Again I gained weight quite quickly - again my diet was quite high in meat, salts and sugary snacks.

To add to all this I have PCOS and my blood sugar and testosterone levels must have been quite high!

HopingWishingPraying
October 29th, 2012, 02:13 AM
Looking back I realise I was doing a 100% perfect boy sway for my first 2, and a pretty damn decent accidental boy sway whilst doing the hardcore IG diet for a girl with my third.

Boy 1: My husband had been diagnosed with a low sperm count (he has always had this and interestingly we have 3 boys!) so I was doing all sorts of things to try to get his sperm count up as I was MEGA stressed that we wouldnt be able to have a baby. I had him on zinc, tribulus, Vitamin C and E, selenium, green tea, ginseng, folic acid and a whole lot of other stuff. He noticed a big increase in libido and energy and did feel that these supps were "doing something" to him. I also was taking robbitussen to try to increase EWCM, I think I might have been taking evening primrose oil too. I read on a forum I frequented at the time that a lot of women were using egg whites "up there" to increase the chance of pregnancy, so I did that too, inserting about 5mls of eggwhite pre BD. Lots of BD across O, using OPKs and propping my hips afterwards. We were newly married (6 months of marriage) so lots of BDing and lots of eating out. I was definitely eating a very high calorie diet and we would have eaten out at least twice a week - my favourites were always creamy pastas with lots of cheese etc on them. I ate a lot of dairy too. It was a full moon, I had a very high stress job and was also extremely stressed and distressed about being told about the low sperm count ... I was most definitely obsessed and on a mission to get pregnant. I probably have a bit of PCOS and insulin resistance too - I ended up with gestational diabetes this pregnancy too. I dont eat a huge amount of red meat or meat in general (only about twice a week) but would have got a lot of fat and protein from dairy and other stuff. Lots of snacking, always ate late and night (ie midnight as I was a shift worker). Looking back... is there ANY wonder I got a boy?

Pregnancy 2: I was breastfeeding an 8 month old and was desperate to get my cycles back to try again for number 2. I took vitex for quite a number of months to try to restore my cycles. I cant remember much about what my diet was like around this time, I know I did go on a diet to lose some baby kilos sometime around now although I cant remember if it was right before I got pregnant. I had read up a bit about swaying by then and was taking cranberry tablets and using a lime douche pre and post BD to try to get a girl. No other swaying factors though. New moon. No eggwhite, but I cant remember if I got my DH on the suppliments - possibly not as I got pg with my first cycle after AF so maybe had not started them before PPAF. Got pregnant with a girl, but lost her at 9 weeks due to turners syndrome (meaning she only had one X chromosome... so potentially the sperm that fertilised her may not have had an X or a Y chromosome).

DS2: Desperate after a miscarriage I went straight back to having my DH on all those supps, dropped the cranberry and the lime douches, picked up the eggwhites again. I was exercising to try to lose weight but was mainly doing a lot of strength and resistance training, building muscle. I think I had previously been dieting but had dropped it (maybe signalling to my body times had improved). I conceived him weeks after Christmas (food, food, food!) and also just after a vacation in November where we ate really badly... so I remember very clearly that when I fell pregnant with him I was lamenting my recent rapid weight gain. I had put on HEAPS of weight and started my pregnancy with him at the same weight I had been at 9 months pregnant with my last baby 17 months before. Full moon again too. Again... any wonder I had a boy?

DS3: About 8 months before conceiving him I went on weight watchers and dropped a lot of weight by calorie counting. I then stopped Weight Watchers and started the IG girl sway diet hardcore. Took all the IG supps too - vitamin D, calcium, magnesium, cranberry etc. When I say hardcore I mean that I was very diligent about making sure I only ate the foods "allowed" - I never cheated about this - BUT in hindsight I realise that I was eating the "allowed foods" pretty freely. I ate chicken or lamb every single day, lots and LOTS of eggs (I remember lamenting about how much money we were spending on eggs and kind of worrying if I was having too many eggs) a huge bowl of greek yoghurt every day, 3 classes of milk, milky puddings for "supper", cheese, some custard or icecream on occasions, lots of pasta. I had read Atomic's stuff about losing weight etc being part of the sway but the thing is I actually WAS losing weight on the IG sway - I lost 8kg in total - so I "thought" that I was doing the LE part of things ok as well. Knowing what I know now about the LE diet I absolutely shudder to think how much protein and fat I would have been consuming every day - let alone how many calories. The other thing is that typically I dont actually eat much meat (never would eat it every day) and when I was on the Weight Watchers diet I was eating a lot of carbs (cruskits for lunch or a small potato etc). I think, in hindsight, that going straight from the calorie restricted, high carb WW onto the IG diet with all the meat, dairy and protein, I probably massively indicated to my body that times had improved and things were good again... I definitely would have been in "improving condition" even though I was losing weight. I used soy isoflavones with him as I have long silly cycles, and it gave me a lot of EWCM. I didnt use an antihistamine on the cycle we conceived. In some ways it is very sad that I dropped the WW diet (which probably was swaying pink for me) specifically to go onto the IG diet that ended up swaying blue for me.... but of course when I look at my little DS3 I know he was meant to be and I cant regret anything.

So there we have it - all up, I think swaying HE style DEFINITELY has worked for me several times. It also proves that people who yoyo diet can still conceive either gender, depending on whether they are on an "up" or "down" swing at the time they conceive. Seeing as my body seems to respond so well to swaying HE style, I just hope and pray that the LE diet works just as well for me.

Atsaukina1
October 31st, 2012, 05:22 PM
thought I'd add mine since I have 3 boys. I had a dd 1st but unlike others I do not see the difference in my lifestyle or diet. I have always weighed about the same,never dieted or exercised. I love a high fat diet and eat all day. When I got pregoo w/ my dd 12 years ago I was actually working at taco bell so eating lots lol.That is also how I eat w/ my boys. I don't eat meat but still get a lot of protein and about 3000 cals daily. One differece is w/ dd I didn't have lots of ewcm back then and now w/ my boys I do. Also didn't O ever back then (different partner thank god lol) so boy moms try to get that O :) Another thig maybe it swayed was when I conceived dd I was working graveyard so my lack of sleep was def. different so boy moms get lots of rest:) Good Luck:)

meeks32
October 31st, 2012, 10:59 PM
I have already written up how I had my boys above, just wanted to add big points I think made me have boys were: SALT!!! MEAT!!! Tomatoes!!! HUGE amounts of garlic and onion, lots of orange juice. Soy milk. Eating very healthy but snacked a lot, maintaining or even loosing weight at the time but just lots of nutritious foods, tons of multivitamins and supplements, lots of green tea and herbal tea as well.

PLEASE mums that are ttc boy, don't start eating calories and junk to gain, that's not the way most of us got our boys, most of us seem to eat a LOT of fruit and veg, very healthy nutritious food, then as secondary factors, we may have treats, but not as the main part of our diet. Eg I HATE sugar, and rarely eat high calorie things, but I had larger servings of healthy foods and snacked a lot on healthy things.

Rosie85
November 1st, 2012, 01:38 AM
Mmmmmmm I was not eating healthy and I got three boys.

Tammy123
November 1st, 2012, 04:29 AM
Hi this thread and the girl thread are fab! I have a ds and now ttc a girl. Hadn't heard of swaying with my ds but thought i'd share how i think we got him. 2 months before we conceived him I got back from spending 3 months abroad for work. I had been veggie for those 3 months due to lack of meat available where I was. So when I got back I was making up for lost time and eating meat big time in the 2 months before we conceived. I ALWAYS ate cereal for brekkie, big lunch, big dinner, lots of snacks - chocolate, biscuits, crisps, sweets. Never did any exercise. didn't eat much fruit but loved bananas so would have at least 1 a day and lots of baked potatoes. Wasn't much of a fizzy drink fan, mainly water. Lived in a very warm flat do rarely had the heating on even though it was winter. Plus conceived over Xmas so was a very calorific diet that week and in 2ww I'm sure. In ttc my girl I'm now basically starving myself lol :(

6boysneedasis
November 1st, 2012, 12:05 PM
Hi, thought I'd add as much as I can remember about my diet & lifestyle prior to conceiving my 6 boys.

DS1 - Just moved in with my boyfriend (now DH) and was bd'ing lots & lots. Spent most of our time eating christmas style, loads of full fat foods (I never do low fat anything) extra special everything from Asda. Working nights on Hospital ward, not much sleep! Eating out lots & going out drinking with friends lots, basic honeymoon period. Surprise pregnancy (conceived January) which ended in a missed mis carriage at 16wks after bad viral infection :broken:

DS2 - Desperate to get pregnant after mis carriage. Stressed & depressed. Still working nights but on v stressful ward. Typical diet, chicken curries, pies with mash & veg, full english breakfasts, roast dinners, rib eye steak with chips & peas - piled on the weight (obviously!) Always chocolates & late at night whilst watching TV! DS2 has Spina Bifida and Hydrocephalus but I was taking folic acid (low dose) Conceived February.

DS3 - Trying to lose weight by going to slimmers world, lost 24lbs whilst eating a highly nutritious low fat, low carb diet. I'd never eaten so many different fruit and vegetables in my life. Stay at home mum at this time. Low stress but lots of worry over DS2 not meeting milestones. Walked everywhere as I didn't drive then. I always think DS3 should have been my girl even according to all the charts etc all say girl!! Conceived October.

DS4 - Even at this time I didn't know about swaying, just thought we'd get our girl at some point, lol! Another surprise pregnancy. We ate a wholesome diet, fruit, veg, potatoes, bread, meat, chicken, cakes, biscuits. Didn't walk anywhere, had car. Stress, stress, stress!! Lots of hospital appointments with DS2 including brain surgery & bowel surgery. Conceived March.

DS5 - Conceived May. Diet much the same as DS4. I'd heard about gender swaying at this point and did a half hearted sway which consisted of abstinence and 3 day cut off. Very stressful time, moved house, DS2 massive operation at same time as moving house. Didn't really try very hard and diet stayed the same as previous DS's.

DS6 - I really tried with DS6 and did frequent BD from AF with a shettles cut off of 5 days whilst taking supps (Calcium, magnesium, cranberry, Acidopholus) I used Replens before each BD but diet stayed the same. I was convinced I would get my girl but ended up with my blue eyed boy!!

Just wanted to add that I always eat late, 8pm - 10pm, snacks of biscuits or chocolate, large meals with lots of potatoes, always snacking, nothing low fat, diets were always a chore and my weight increased with each pregnancy. Short temper, impatient ? high testosterone, what a joy I must have been to be around lol!!
So after losing 84lbs and feeling much more mellow, here I go again one last time for pink!!! Any tips or advice please let me know xxx

NeedGrace
November 1st, 2012, 09:07 PM
This is so fascinating & so accurate in my case too. I am a grazer. I don't like to feel hungry so tend to eat often throughout the day (stable blood sugar). I have 3 boys. I naturally have a fast metabolism (or more likely it's my stress-y, anxious, slightly obsessive nature) so I consume a lot of calories but thin. Each time I have ttc I have had to put on weight to conceive so eating even more! My diet is very boy friendly- I never skip breakfast, always cereal with milk or toast or both. Lunch usually a sandwich with deli meat, cheese & tomato, or vegemite (actually I love vegemite as a snack on toast, rice cakes or crackers too- high salt). I eat lots of fruit, dried fruits & nuts, some veggies & salads. I snack a lot including after dinner-always a late snack before bed. I also eat a lot of red meat (about 4-5x week): spaghetti, lasagne, steak, sausages, also salt on everything & in my cooking, & a fair bit of processed food. I would have take away food 1-2 a week usually. I conceived DS1 & DS2 with BD every other day through O & DS3 a one-off on O (was going for a cut-off but missed it). I took Robitussin when ttc DS1 & DS2 as I wanted to get pregnant straight away. DH loves his air conditioning & DS2 & DS3 both conceived in height of Summer. DH loves his caffeine & coke (don't know if that's relevant) & neither of us exercise at all although both quite stress-y & at a guess I'd say both DH & I have high testosterone. Hmmm ... Changing to a girly diet & lifestyle will be quite a challenge for me!

mariposa
November 5th, 2012, 04:10 AM
Hi! I have one lovely boy, and wanted to add mine. Well... in fact is similar to most of you. I was gaining weight , like 3 or 4 kg over my usual weight. Ate breakfast every day (milk and cereals) and constantly snacking. Tons of diet coke. Zero coffe. Meat, carbs, healthy food almost always and moderated exercise from two months before start TTC. I had EWCM and DTD at O-3 and O-1 (was trying to do a Shettles to get a girl, since this method was the only one I know by that time). Conceived first month trying. Stopped pill like 9 months before , wanted to "clean" my body from hormones.... Hope you all get your dreams! :bigboy:

PrincessAurora
November 13th, 2012, 03:01 PM
DH and I DTD every day or every other day around CD 14 until i started my period...little did i know i don't ovulate till CD 17-ish so we BD 3prior to O and then continued doing it.

After BD I laid in bed with hips elevated and watched the entire first Twilight movie with hips elevated (maybe about 2 hours?)

I had a very high fat and sodium diet...I literally ate Wendy's, Taco bell and other fast foods EVEY DAY for every single meal and snacked like my life depended on it...I gained 30 pounds in a 6-ish month span

DH and i were also going through a highly competetive highly stressful and physically demanding time of our lives...I think that probably raised our T levels

strawberrymom
November 14th, 2012, 03:41 PM
I have 2 boys one at age 34 and the other at 36. I didn't know about swaying then but did plan and want boys for both. I have been a vegetarian my entire adult life but made sure I had a lot of protein (beans,dairy, spinach) before and during ttc. My workouts consisted of isometric exercises (similar to yoga but lazier) and had a lot of muscle. Ate quite a bit- definitely breakfast, always snacking, lots of veggies, didn't watch salt but didn't add extra. Always took prenatals. Was at normal weight for both although considered borderline overweight. All I knew about cycle then was you supposedly ovulate 14 days after AF so we DTD around that time but not positive exact dates. Frequency was only once. Oh yeah also ate yams and ice cream a lot because I had heard they increased fertility. Hope this helps and good luck to all.

TTCPink
December 13th, 2012, 10:30 PM
DS 1 - I was researching all I could how to increase fertility because I was so excited to get pregnant and wanted it to happen quickly. I was eating lots of nutrient-rich foods, juicing fruits and vegetables, eating lean protein, taking lot of vitamins and fish oil. Lots of EWCM, BD several times after +OPK (probably 4 days in a row and a couple of days two times). Also I had gained muscle mass as I had been going to the gym and lifting weights and exercising daily. Used Pre-Seed as lubricant because it was sperm-friendly (didn't know it swayed boy). Got pregnant the first month trying.

DS2 - Conceived in December and I was gaining weight due to over-eating around the holidays. I was definitely eating more high-fat and salty foods than usual. I had also just weaned DS1 the month prior so I was gaining weight more easily since the calories were not being used up by breastfeeding anymore. Used Pre-Seed as lubricant (again, did not know it swayed, just that it was sperm-friendly.) DTD one time at positive OPK. Was not exercising at all at the time. Got pregnant the first month trying.

I never had any fake sugar, diet drinks, or pop with either pregnancy. Drank 1-2 cups of coffee a day.

afy
December 13th, 2012, 11:05 PM
you ladies are all AMAZING!! For putting in the effort of writing all this information out!!! Xx thank you so much!

One question did your DHs release in you in only in the month you conceived your DS or prior to that too?

Cinss
December 13th, 2012, 11:57 PM
afy we were using condoms up until first month of attempt, then it was no protection ever until we fell pregnant.

luvalittleman
December 14th, 2012, 03:17 AM
Hi, thought I'd add as much as I can remember about my diet & lifestyle prior to conceiving my 6 boys.

DS1 - Just moved in with my boyfriend (now DH) and was bd'ing lots & lots. Spent most of our time eating christmas style, loads of full fat foods (I never do low fat anything) extra special everything from Asda. Working nights on Hospital ward, not much sleep! Eating out lots & going out drinking with friends lots, basic honeymoon period. Surprise pregnancy (conceived January) which ended in a missed mis carriage at 16wks after bad viral infection :broken:

DS2 - Desperate to get pregnant after mis carriage. Stressed & depressed. Still working nights but on v stressful ward. Typical diet, chicken curries, pies with mash & veg, full english breakfasts, roast dinners, rib eye steak with chips & peas - piled on the weight (obviously!) Always chocolates & late at night whilst watching TV! DS2 has Spina Bifida and Hydrocephalus but I was taking folic acid (low dose) Conceived February.

DS3 - Trying to lose weight by going to slimmers world, lost 24lbs whilst eating a highly nutritious low fat, low carb diet. I'd never eaten so many different fruit and vegetables in my life. Stay at home mum at this time. Low stress but lots of worry over DS2 not meeting milestones. Walked everywhere as I didn't drive then. I always think DS3 should have been my girl even according to all the charts etc all say girl!! Conceived October.

DS4 - Even at this time I didn't know about swaying, just thought we'd get our girl at some point, lol! Another surprise pregnancy. We ate a wholesome diet, fruit, veg, potatoes, bread, meat, chicken, cakes, biscuits. Didn't walk anywhere, had car. Stress, stress, stress!! Lots of hospital appointments with DS2 including brain surgery & bowel surgery. Conceived March.

DS5 - Conceived May. Diet much the same as DS4. I'd heard about gender swaying at this point and did a half hearted sway which consisted of abstinence and 3 day cut off. Very stressful time, moved house, DS2 massive operation at same time as moving house. Didn't really try very hard and diet stayed the same as previous DS's.

DS6 - I really tried with DS6 and did frequent BD from AF with a shettles cut off of 5 days whilst taking supps (Calcium, magnesium, cranberry, Acidopholus) I used Replens before each BD but diet stayed the same. I was convinced I would get my girl but ended up with my blue eyed boy!!

Just wanted to add that I always eat late, 8pm - 10pm, snacks of biscuits or chocolate, large meals with lots of potatoes, always snacking, nothing low fat, diets were always a chore and my weight increased with each pregnancy. Short temper, impatient ? high testosterone, what a joy I must have been to be around lol!!
So after losing 84lbs and feeling much more mellow, here I go again one last time for pink!!! Any tips or advice please let me know xxx

6boys,
I have finished with all my pink dust. I am sending it on to you. xxx