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HopingWishingPraying
November 18th, 2012, 12:37 AM
Update: The result of this sway was my very precious and long awaited little GIRL. She is an absolute miracle in my life - the end result of many years of praying, researching, planning, pining, wistfulness, hopes and dreams. I never thought that I would have my own little daughter to love, I honestly never thought that it would happen for me and that she would become a reality after living only in my mind for so long. She is a desperately wanted dream brought to life and I am so in awe that she is now here and in my arms. It feels totally surreal and I keep waiting to wake up. I am SOOO grateful that I found this website and I really do believe that this swaying stuff CAN work... my boys were all total "boy sways" inadvertently - I think my lifestyle would absolutely have continued to sway boy and that this tiny little bundle of pink in my arms would never have been if it were not for Atomic and this wonderful website. To those still stuck in the GD trenches, all I can advise is to give it your all, give it everything you have got even though it is horrible right now. I put back my sway by another cycle as I didn't feel my body was ready when my first ovulation came up. At the time I was so impatient and desperate to try after having waited a long time to get to that point. I was feeling so impatient and it was so hard to push on with the diet and wait for another cycle. Now though, I am so glad that I kept on slogging through and gave it everything I could. She is worth every bite of zucchini I lived on for many months, and every hot chip I had to turn my back on. I would do it all again in a heartbeat if I had to, despite remembering how hard it was at the time. If I had had a boy I also believe I would have some peace brought by the fact that I did give it my all and did everything I could with the knowledge I had at the time. I wish all of you still living through the "season of waiting" the very very best. It is hard right now, but it wont be forever. And thank you Atomic - I know I will be thinking that somewhere in my thoughts for the rest of my life as I do believe you brought this baby girl into my life when she otherwise wouldn't have been. I am so, so happy and feel so very complete. Thank you Atomic.


TTC a Girl Sway Attempt
Gender Result:
GIRL
DW Age:
31
DH Age:
41
Current Children's Gender(s)
3 boys
1 previous girl pregnancy lost at 9 weeks
Number of Months TTC
1
Did you purchase and follow a GD Personalized Plan?
No
DIET
Did you follow a diet plan?
Yes
If yes to diet, which one did you most follow? LE(Low Everything)


Comments regarding DW's diet changes-
I was very very strict with the diet. We began on a vegetarian diet on February 1st and kept this up until June 1 when we began the LE diet. I maintained the diet strictly for 20 weeks plus 3 weeks less strictly early on in the sway. The last 3 weeks of my sway leading up to O I was even stricter - I cut pasta out of my diet and basically ate mushrooms, corn and peeled zucchini every day for lunch with a sprinkle of parmesan on it plus a no fat diet yoghurt, and for dinner a cup of rice with a pureed veggie of some sort (such as corn, cauliflower or pumpkin) and a bit more Parmesan on it - then 2 weight watchers 100 calorie bars for supper. No garlic or onions. I did not eat breakfast in 5 months. I cheated a few times (probably a cheat day around once a month) on the diet but was generally very strict. I tried to take fibre supps any time I had a meal with more fat. I paid attention to some of the FGD ideas too (ie basically to limit potassium and sodium) so I stuck to mainly lower nutrient veggies and avoided highly coloured or nutritious veggies like tomatoes, potatoes, carrots or spinach. I ate a lot of corn just because I like it and it gave things flavour. I lost 8.5kg (19lb) in this time on the diet. My DH was following a lot of the LE diet with me (no red meat, low sodium etc) and drank a glass of soy milk every second day. I was starving a lot of the time! In the 2 weeks leading up to ovulation I ate a lot of aspartame - crystal light and diet coke, plus adding it to my yoghurt. I actually went through a box of 100 equal sachets in this time plus a lot of CL and diet coke. The rest of the time I avoided aspartame as much as possible except for a diet yoghurt each day and some other diet foods for supper as I am a bit wary of aspartame.
If diet was used, length of time before attempt?
9 months of vegetarian diet
20 weeks of strict LE diet + 3 weeks of less strict LE diet.
Did you skip breakfast regularly?
Yes
Did DH change his diet with you?
Yes
Comments regarding DH's diet-
As above - a lot of the LE diet - very reduced meat intake, very little red meat. Lower sodium than usual, more sweets than usual. Soy milk every second day.
DId you consume alcohol? No


DId you try to limit caffeine?
Yes, I cutback
Any Diet Details?
As above. I kept it up in the 2WW up until the day before my BFP. I did eat more than usual in the 2WW - ie definitely more than I was eating up to O but still all LE foods (just more of them). I would not eat anything until 2pm, then have lunch and dinner, plus a snack around 9 - 9.30pm. The dinner and snack were often reasonably big but all carbs and sweets etc, still very little protein and limited fat (although I did eat hot chips and some chocolate etc, so some fat - more than I ever had leading up to O). If I could change anything about my sway I wish I hadn't had such large meals in the 2WW but at least I had a long fasting time and it was still all LE foods.
Any Diet Comments/Additional Info?
I was very happy with my diet and couldn't have done it any stricter. I was probably coming under most of the values a lot of the time, especially in the last 3 weeks - although I did not track every day. My food details are recorded quite a bit in the following 2 threads, although I stopped recording in the few weeks up to attempt (trying to reduce stress levels):

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-girl/13139-those-want-record-what-they-eat-share-meal-ideas-aug-sept.html

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-girl/14162-what-you-eating-thread-october-november-could-stickied-please.html
WEIGHT AND EXERCISE
What did you weigh/BMI do leading up to O?
When I was studying up on the LE diet I saw a lot of people talking about running out of weight and at that time I misunderstood things and thought it was the act of losing weight at the time of conception that swayed things. So in the year after my last son was born, before starting the LE diet I purposely allowed myself to put on weight so I would have weight to work with if the sway took a long time. I am 5 foot 5 and I went from 62kg (136) to 67kg (148kg) during this time. This is the most I have ever weighed in my life and it felt too much for me - it meant I went up to a BMI of 24.6. I then mentioned this to Atomic and she said that this had not been a good idea to do this as it meant my oestrogen and testosterone levels would have increased. This is why I started the LE diet at that time, even though I wasnt quite ready to start TTC. I am glad of this now as it meant I had a good long time on the diet. On the diet I managed to drop down to 58.5 kg (128.9lb) and a BMI of 21.5 which is what I conceived at.
Any Weight/Exercise related additional info/comments?
No exercise, there is no way I could do an hour a day with my 3 little guys so I did nothing - suits me as I am not an exerciser anyway!

I used therapeutic doses of cinnamon to help with insulin resistance... more info about this further down...
THINGS in VG and CONCEPTION DATE(CD) INFO
pH Before Starting a Sway Program, if known
Didn't check
Any VG potions used? RePhresh


CM pH at attempt
Didnt check
DH pH
Didnt check
How many BD attempts did you make for the BFP cycle?
6
BD Dates according to Ovulation 3 Days Before O
2 Days Before O
1 Day Before O
O Day
After O


Any additional comments?
6 attempts. Monday night, Tuesday night, Wednesday night, Thursday morning and night, Friday morning. I got my OPK on Wednesday evening and had ovulation pains around midday on Thursday so I think that is when I ovulated. 2 of my attempts would have been after ovulation, and one was the morning just before O.

I used a full applicator of rephresh on Monday afternoon about 8 hours before attempt, then half an applicator early Tuesday afternoon (again about 8 hours before attempt) and the other half 8 hours before attempt on Wednesday afternoon. There was some EWCM at these attempts. By Thursday (ovulation day) there wasnt much EWCM so I made Thursdays 2 attempts and Friday mornings attempts without any rephresh - technically though I should have still been covered by my previous applications.
THE DEED INFO
DH Info about Swimmers Frequent Release
DTD through Ovulation


BD Position
Missionary
Did you Jump and Dump? No


Any relevant attempt details?
I got DH to FR for the week or so before our attempts began, once per day. Then there was quite a few attempts across ovulation time.
SUPPLEMENTS USED
DW Supplements Vitex
Clomid
Baby asprin
folic acid
Calcium
Fiber
Antihistamine


DH Supplements Cranberry
Magnesium


Any additional supplement info?
I took 1000mg vitex and peppermint tea for months (cant remember when I started but I think it was in June, so for around 3 months of so) continually without stopping a few months before attempt. The cycle before attempt I actually used soy isoflavones to try to speed my ovulation up as I have long cycles - so I stopped the vitex whilst waiting to O and then resumed it O to AF seeing as I hadnt attempted that cycle. The soy did not help me ovulate earlier, I ovulated on CD 35 that cycle (normal for me - long stupid cycles) but this was not the cycle I attempted or fell pregnant on.

I took baby asprin every day (no bruising) for the 3 weeks before attempt and so DH (there is no option to tick this in the DH supplements section). DH also drank some cranberry. Just for the few days of attempt I actually took 2 asprin a day. I got DH to take olive leaf extract for a couple of weeks maybe 6 weeks or more before attempt, but then got nervous this could sway blue so got him to drop it again.

I took 1600mcg of folic acid every day. DH also took 800mg every day as I have read this can drastically reduce the chances of miscarriage and birth defects like Down Syndrome and DH is 41. Just before attempt I asked Atomic about this and she said it could possibly sway blue for DH so I got him to drop it for the week or so leading up to O. DH took calcium every day and magnesium every second day (Magnesium upsets his stomach if he takes it daily). I also just couldnt shed the IG stuff from my head so I did not increase dairy in my diet but I did take calcium supplements daily (not magnesium). I took just over 1000mg of elemental calcium (in the form of calcium citrate) daily and this included 500IU Vitamin D. I took fibre occasionally if I had a meal with more fat in it than usual and the supplement I had included some pre and pro biotics. Before attempt I took a full antihistamine tablet and then another day took a half antihistamine tablet. I cant remember what days these were on... I THINK it was the Tuesday I took the full tablet and Wednesday I took the half tablet (ovulated on Thursday) but it may have been Monday I took the full tablet and Tuesday I took the half tablet.

This cycle I also took 50mg clomid. I was prescribed this medically as I have very long and irregular cycles of up to 70 days long. On the first day I accidentally broke one of the clomid tablets up and was worried I wouldn't have a full dose so I took half of another tablet ... in all I think I took 75mg that day and 50mg the other days. I took them days 5 - 9 but my period arrived at about 9pm and I counted that as day 1, so I guess really it could be seen as that I took the clomid on CD 4-8 depending on when I should have counted as day 1. I did not receive any monitoring on the clomid... so who knows how many babies are in there! Having said that, I didnt have very strong ovulation pain compared to usual so my sense is that there is only 1 in there... it did reduce my cycle length and get me ovulating on CD 20 which is the earliest I have ovulated in my life - I felt so normal!
Did you do anything with Ions?
I had all the ion stuff from my hardcore IG sway that resulted in DS3 - I had spent $1000 on stuff then and still had it all lying around so I used it a bit in the week or 2 leading up to attempt and around attempt. I had lots of stuff - a big ioniser, a personal ioniser, lightbulbs and lots of other stuff. I stayed away from computers the day of attempt. I dont really believe in all this stuff but thought what the heck.. it cant hurt.
Moon Phase during conception?
Waning Crescent
Did you use any Old Wives Tales?
No - other than ions if that counts?
Things that make me feel great about my sway:
I was very full on with the diet. I lost a lot of weight and did not have any cheats anywhere near attempt. I am happy about the clomid plus the fact I had a long while on vitex before attempt. I am also very amazed that I was able to fall pregnant whilst on clomid, doing lots of aspartame, taking asprin daily, taking 2 antihistamines, using 2 full applicators of rephresh, with DH doing daily asprin and also whilst doing FR! We did not intend to keep all of these factors up - I knew I wasnt really meant to do aspartame, astihistamines and rephresh when I was on clomid but I decided to hit it with everything I had for one or 2 attempts. I was planning on dropping a lot of this stuff next cycle but I am so amazed and excited I still managed to get pregnant with it all in play! We have managed to get pregnant twice before with lots of very strong lime douche and acigel etc so obviously DH's swimmers are not too worried about low ph! Strangely, DH has previously (over the course of several years) been diagnosed with low sperm count and we were told by 2 specialists several years apart that we would need IVF / ICSI to conceive. We seem to do ok on our own though, even with mucking around with all the rephresh etc. For this reason though I never got DH to do LR or more soy.
Things that make me nervous about my sway:
I wish I had not had such large meals in the 2WW. Admittedly they were pretty normal sized meals for a normal person but compared to what I had been eating on the diet they felt large and this makes me nervous.

I was taking cinnamon therapeutically in pretty large doses - probably about a teaspoon a day in my yoghurt, possibly more some days. I discussed this with Atomic and decided I would do it as I have features of PCOS and insulin resistance, plus I was having some plateaus for several weeks here and there in my weight loss. I do think my weight loss increased at the same time as starting the cinnamon but it could have been as I also cut down on my carbs at that time. I am nervous about the cinnamon just because it hasn't really been tested for swaying... I am charting new waters in this regard.

I am nervous about the fact that DH was taking folic acid which may sway blue.

Nervous about the fact that I gained weight up until about 5 months before my attempt.

The IG voice in the back of my head that I find hard to shed makes me nervous about the fact that we had attempts so close to ovulation, and also the fact that I didn't use my ionising stuff for the recommended 6 weeks before attempt.

I had some EWCM for some of my attempts which makes me nervous - definitely a lot reduced and not much at all (or any) for some of the later attempts - but still. What was there was not its usual consistency so I do think the clomid / aspartame / asprin / rephresh combination had an effect.

I guess I am a little bit nervous that the calcium or VIt D could sway blue although I actually believe it probably doesnt really sway either way (lots of opposites with people taking it but equally, on IG, lots of people still conceiving girls whilst taking it).

I am a big stress head (and natural boy mum through and through) so there are many things I am nervous about and will continue to obsess over for the net 9 months I am sure... but really I couldn't have done much more and I am sure any time I swayed I would have some "imperfect" things that I would obsess over a little after fate is sealed.
Things worth mentioning:
Prayer, and lots of it!! I am also still BF my 15 month old son. I know asprin is not recommended when swaying but I read up on this and Thomas Hales who is well respected in lactation pharmacology says that low dose asprin is probably ok in lactation so long as the mother stops taking it if the baby had a fever or signs of illness (because of Reyes Syndrome). Apparently very little is transferred to the baby and I made sure to take it just after he went to bed so it was a long time till I fed him - I did the same with the aspartame as much as I could. He had no signs of bruising or anything and neither did I. I really hope this is my very long awaited girl, I have been waiting for her for so long and it is so exciting to think she might finally be with me now. It would be the biggest dream of my life come true and nothing could make me happier. I plan to be team green until birth. I feel very nervous now all is said and done... and my life feels strangely devoid and empty after planning my sway for the last 2 years... what can I think about constantly now LOL? Glad it is done though and I hope so much my DD is on the way. BFP on 10dpo in late November 2012. Now to try to figure out how to make peace with the fact it could be DS 4 on his way and to spend the next 9 months trying to prepare for that. Thanks so much Atomic, you are a hero in my life and I will always remember all the work you have done for us all here... you have played so much more of a significant role in my life than you will ever realise by giving me a good chance at maybe having my much wanted daughter, and with that, a complete family and the greatest joy I could ever wish for.

mariposa
November 20th, 2012, 06:48 AM
congrats on your BFP!!! H&H 9 months!! :flowerz:

HopingWishingPraying
November 20th, 2012, 08:52 AM
Thank you Mariposa!

HouseOfTurtles
November 21st, 2012, 03:26 AM
Congrats on your BFP! FX for pink!

Mrs_P
November 23rd, 2012, 04:35 PM
Wow what am amazing sway, i wish i had done better. I am sure you will get your little girl having done all of this x

sweetpea
November 23rd, 2012, 07:41 PM
Congrats, Hoping!!! I am SO thrilled to see you got your BFP, and you've had a really, really awesome pink sway! Good luck and H&H 9 months to you!! ;)

fish2012
November 26th, 2012, 12:34 PM
congrats x

prayforprincess
November 30th, 2012, 02:24 PM
This sway is NUTS!!! Its just incredible!! You could not have done it any any any better!
I mean it, that sway is off the charts. If you don't have a girl in there, then I have no hope for myself because your sway is tremendously better than mine would be.
Give yourself a pat on the back and eat again honey!
Happy Healthy 9!

BabyGirl4Me
May 9th, 2013, 10:44 AM
Wow, this WAS quite a sway!! I hope you have a pink baby growing in you now. Good luck!

marriedmomof2
May 9th, 2013, 01:27 PM
Hey there that was awesome! You did better than I could ever wish to do :-) Congrats!!!
Oh and did I miss it? What was her outcome?

HopingWishingPraying
May 9th, 2013, 10:39 PM
Thanks guys. No outcome yet - I am 28 weeks but have stayed team green. I keep obsessing over the fact that we DTD so close to ovulation and also probably had too many attempts - so I keep thinking it will be a boy even though I KNOW that these things aren't meant to really sway as much as diet etc. 12 weeks to go until I know - I will update then. Thanks for your thoughts!

HopingWishingPraying
July 28th, 2013, 11:31 PM
Hi guys. I have updated in the first post. Had my baby GIRL the other day. Still cant believe it. On cloud 9.

atomic sagebrush
July 28th, 2013, 11:53 PM
So happy for you!!

porcelina
July 29th, 2013, 10:34 AM
Congratulations!!!!!! All your hard work paid off!! I can't believe you stayed te green for 9 months!! Did you drive yourself crazy???

Congratulations again!!