Boys born to aggressive mums, Girls born to passive mums

[princessreader]

Hi Ladies,

How many of you can relate to this (boy mums and girl mums)? My personal theory about personality types and what genders they carry. I do realise now there have been some studies done about this but it was an observation i made a long time ago. I've noticed that the type of woman who naturally has girls is very feminine, gentler, passive type of character while the type of woman who has boys is feisty, independent, aggressive type.

I wonder if the eating habits form the personality or vice versa. And i wonder if the eating/nutrition habits were altered, would that in turn affect personality? I find this theory a very interesting one and wish there was more research on it. You may find 2 sisters for example and the feistier one may carry single gender of boys only while the more girly of the two sisters ends up with the girls. It's almost as if you can predict what gender will be produced by observing this.

I wonder why this happens. Is it the excess in testosterone that in turn affects the personality and then the gender chances? Or something else?

Would love to hear your thoughts on this....

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[wilma_five]

Don't know....
I have 5 boys. I'm a gentle, feminine person. I work as a care-taker. But, I get stressed out very easy and have mood swings (and can be very mad at that point).

[Cinss]

Possibly the testosterone, but i have a very good girlfriend who is extreemly agressive, independent and fiesty and she has 3 daughters. She is also extreemly vein and eats like a rabbit in order to stay slim.

[Rainbow baby]

Er I fit the picture :(
Cranky stress ball here!

[Pangea]

I don't know, I have two boys and I'm quite shy and quiet. I avoid confrontation, I'm very sensitive and I'm more of a gentle type. At the same time though I'm very anxious, a big worrier, and I can get very stressed about things.

My mum is quite aggressive and confrontational, she has 3 daughters and one son.

[LacePrincess]

Could be. I have 3 boys and I'm competitive, aggressive, ambitious, Type A RAWR personality. Hah! I'm also a giant stressball too, the type to worry about nothing and obsess over everything.

We see the trend of this overly obsessive stressed out worrier type on the girl sway boards. Not sure if it would reflect our testosterone, but I wouldn't be surprised!

Actually, I'd also be curious - how many of us boy moms are firstborns? Because firstborns tend to have these personality traits. My husband is the baby of his family and a complete opposite to me in personality (thank goodness or we'd kill each other!)

[dloui128]

I am extremely independent, fiesty a say whats on my mind type of girl and I have two girls and a boy on the way

[Everyonehasgirls]

I do have a short fuse but wouldn't say I was the feisty and independent type especially amongst people I don't know too well. I know I have high testosterone because of PCOS as well as diet - not really sure how that affects personality

I am a firstborn so that is quite an interesting theory

I have 2 boys btw

[Butterfly Spirit]

Well first DS was a surprise..
Second DS was a "failed Shettles ..pull out baby" hahaha

I was completely calm while conceiving DD.. except the times when my boys made me come unglued... as they can do ;)

As a general personality, I've always been a determined nature, and love a good competition too! So who knows? LOL I'd say my boys have MADE me more aggressive.. and meaner wife.. unless it's just prego hormones! :(

[Rosie85]

yeah this has always been my thought too. I feel like I have boys because I have a bad temper and am quick to anger and sometimes yell a lot. The wrong kind of stress...I also eat a lot, stress eater over here! I don't know how to stop my habits enough to ever get a girl. Anger management??

[cvd]

Could be. I have 3 boys and I'm competitive, aggressive, ambitious, Type A RAWR personality. Hah! I'm also a giant stressball too, the type to worry about nothing and obsess over everything.

We see the trend of this overly obsessive stressed out worrier type on the girl sway boards. Not sure if it would reflect our testosterone, but I wouldn't be surprised!

Actually, I'd also be curious - how many of us boy moms are firstborns? Because firstborns tend to have these personality traits. My husband is the baby of his family and a complete opposite to me in personality (thank goodness or we'd kill each other!)
True for my DH and I, I am first born as I am THE ONLY lol and he is the baby of 3. I am very aggressive, independent, organized ect. And he's so go with the flow, anything works kinda guy, senstive. And your right we would so kill eachother if he was any different hahaha

[Dreamofpink]

I'm a first born, but then so is my mum who had two girls. We're quite similar in that we both shy away from confrontation, but will stand up for ourselves when pushed. I have become more mellow since being on this diet, but I don't know if it's just given me more hope after a crappy year of TTC with a cut-off and nothing except for a chemical.

My sister has no children yet, but if your theory's right she'll have boys as she's very confrontational at times and gets on her soap box a lot too (mind I can be quite opinionated too!) However, she eats more of a girl diet. It'll be interesting to see when she does start a family.

I know one lady who is the most gentle, kind and soothing kind-of Mum and she has two girls and two boys in that order. I know she seems to be quite stressed out at times, but from what I can tell she's not the shouty type at all. I didn't know her when she had her girls as babies and don't know her well enough to ask about her eating habits then! I also know another lady who has a boy then twin girls and she seems quite competitive. Another lady has two girls and she's extremely competitive! The last two are quite plump, so I do think that it's more down to diet.

[Wishing4Princess]

Oh yeah. I'm agressive and competitive and get agitated and really pissed by just about everything that doesnt go my way:(. I would say dh and i are total opposites. His calm, relaxed personality gets on my nerves, lol.

I have 2 boys and most likely carrying my 3rd boy..

[Butterfly Spirit]

Oh yeah. I'm agressive and competitive and get agitated and really pissed by just about everything that doesnt go my way:(. I would say dh and i are total opposites. His calm, relaxed personality gets on my nerves, lol.

I have 2 boys and most likely carrying my 3rd boy..

I am the same... I wonder if it's all the stress that comes from how driven we are in life..
seriously.

I hope you have your DD in there hon!! It's possible!

[SaraLou]

Not true for me! I am massively competitive, fiery, short tempered and very ambitious/career driven. Constantly stressed lol. And I have a little girl :) My two friends who had boys the month before me are way more chilled, laid back and generally calmer people!!

[Rosie85]

Stressed career driven women sway girl though...BIG time. Lawyers and doctors have tons of girls. Statistical fact. I think there is a big difference in fiesty and hot tempered when it's paired with career driven and then when its paired with just being 'normal" I am not a career driven person, I just get stressed nothing is going well for us but don't have the same drive and ambition to change it as someone who is career driven does. Totally different type of stress and anger/temper.

[LacePrincess]

Hah, I see a trend! Exceptions, too, but definitely a common link.

Hubby's ambitious but soooooo laid back......and I'm the screamer with the short fuse. His surface calmness and complacency makes me want to kill him sometimes, lol.

My mom was a middle child and had two girls. She simmers under the surface but isn't quick to temper like me and my dad. I take after my grandmother on my dad's side - she had 5 boys and 3 girls, with the last of the kids being twin boys. I'm not willing to go to #6 to get a girl though!

[Rosie85]

Hah, I see a trend! Exceptions, too, but definitely a common link.

Hubby's ambitious but soooooo laid back......and I'm the screamer with the short fuse. His surface calmness and complacency makes me want to kill him sometimes, lol.

My mom was a middle child and had two girls. She simmers under the surface but isn't quick to temper like me and my dad. I take after my grandmother on my dad's side - she had 5 boys and 3 girls, with the last of the kids being twin boys. I'm not willing to go to #6 to get a girl though!

My scan tech yesterday was saying how he had a lady that had 5 boys and she got pregnant one last time because she just knew number 6 would be her girl...it was!

[SaraLou]

Stressed career driven women sway girl though...BIG time. Lawyers and doctors have tons of girls. Statistical fact. I think there is a big difference in fiesty and hot tempered when it's paired with career driven and then when its paired with just being 'normal" I am not a career driven person, I just get stressed nothing is going well for us but don't have the same drive and ambition to change it as someone who is career driven does. Totally different type of stress and anger/temper.

Oooh I didn't know this. Interesting - and when I compare myself to my female peers it is very true....colleagues of mine do indeed have lots of girls :) x

[fairyfrog]

Mom of 1 girl and 4 boys and I am definitely not aggressive...unless passive aggressive counts?LOL My nickname growing up was miss priss. I come from an all girl family. 5 of us. Dad left the picture when I was 3.

[The Anchor]

I'm aggressive, outspoken, at work I'm considered a bit of a bully (and my coworkers are 90% men!). I have a girl and a boy...but I was dieting like a mad person when I got my girl.

[Wanting-a-girl]

My mother was a terribly short fused person lol always getting really mad at us for basically nothing and she had BBBG and DH's mom is the most kindest person I have ever me like seriously reminds me of someone like mother thressa and she had 3 boys so I don't know.... I have been trying to find connections like crazy... DH's dads parents had 4 of each.... My dads das had two of each... My brothers all had girls first! So I'm not seeing any connection at all! I am pretty short fused normally not the past few months I have three boys so I'm hoping cause I had a total personality change that will work in my fav our for this little bean.... But honestly I am just happy with a healthy baby after having two developmentally delayed (autistic) boys I would just be ecstatic to get to experience normal things with my child..... My first son is perfect but I was young and stupid and didn't appreciate the time.....I wish I could go back.... Don't get me wrong I loved him very much just I was trying to hard on trying to be a teenager :( omg sorry for the vent flipping hormones

[NearlyDone]

I have 4 girls and 1 boy and m fairly feisty....can stand my ground type person

[MrsTreasure]

I always thought it was the sperm that determined the gender or is it the environment they go into have a bearing?? Well my SIL is the narkiest b***h you could ever meet and she has a lovely little girl...interesting concept though!

[LacePrincess]

I always thought it was the sperm that determined the gender or is it the environment they go into have a bearing?? Well my SIL is the narkiest b***h you could ever meet and she has a lovely little girl...interesting concept though!

Well, yes and no. Chromosome wise obviously the sperm gets the 'vote'. But it doesn't quite add up that physiologically the way sperm are made, every man has 50-50, yet clearly we have some people with quite a large group all of one gender. So something else is swinging the gender preference.

The theory behind swaying is that the environment of mom can be more receptive to one gender over another. And the theory that Mother Nature favours boys in times of 'plenty' and girls when resources are scarce, since boys are statistically more fragile as embryos and infants. So if your body thinks it's famine time, it'll swing towards producing more girls as girls are 'hardier'. That's the theory anyways, in reality of course it's all up to God and chance but at least we can try to change our habits and see if it makes a difference!

[MrsTreasure]

Well, yes and no. Chromosome wise obviously the sperm gets the 'vote'. But it doesn't quite add up that physiologically the way sperm are made, every man has 50-50, yet clearly we have some people with quite a large group all of one gender. So something else is swinging the gender preference.

The theory behind swaying is that the environment of mom can be more receptive to one gender over another. And the theory that Mother Nature favours boys in times of 'plenty' and girls when resources are scarce, since boys are statistically more fragile as embryos and infants. So if your body thinks it's famine time, it'll swing towards producing more girls as girls are 'hardier'. That's the theory anyways, in reality of course it's all up to God and chance but at least we can try to change our habits and see if it makes a difference!

Wow thanks for this, very interesting. I'm learning so much, I am so amazed at what my body's doing right now I can't quite get my head around it! Thanks for the info :)

[wannagirl21]

I don't think you can really look at personality, like Atomic said it's not what's going on on the outside it's what's going on inside. It's all about the condition of your body when you conceive because we can sit here all day and compare ppl and what they have cuz really there are tons of oppositees with just going by personality. I think there's way more to it not just personality I think it's diet and lifestyle mostly. Honetstly if it was based off personality then ton's of women including me have no chance at out desired gender and I guess that's not what this sites about because it's suppost to help us get out disired gender under any circumstances even if I have all boy's and am aggresive or independent because ton's of women who are like that have girls.

[BeadinMom]

I THINK hormones have a lot to do with personality. I also think they create an environment hospitable to either XY or XX sperm.

Personality is definitely a part of it...
In my own group of friends I can easily identify "boy moms" vs. "girl moms"

[Yuzu]

I am firstborn, feisty, independent and aggressive. I'm kind of a 'guy,' if you know what I mean. My best friends are usually men. But I love Hello Kitty and pink!

[wannagirl21]

I don't see how hormones effect personlaity I have a girl friend who is so quiet and gentle spirited and she has 3 boy's but maybe for some reason she has a high testosterone levels but it doesn't seem to affect her personality. Almost all the girls I know who are boy moms are very quiet and gentle spirited girls and they have boy's. Then i also know a couple girls who are hyper and outgoing and indepenent and they have girls so really I'm convinced it's whats going on in the inside.

[BeadinMom]

Yeah, well I have a 12 yr old boy in my house, I can tell you without a DOUBT that hormones have an effect on personality. LOL!!

[Boymomsrock]

I am probably the least aggressive person and have 3 boys. Lol! But I am a worrier.

[BeadinMom]

How hormones affect human behavior - by Elton Gahr - Helium (http://www.helium.com/items/2088650-how-hormones-affect-human-behavior)


"Hormones affect nearly everything about how humans think and feel. They can control weight, emotion, health and even lower or increase pain thresholds. In fact there is very little in the human experience that is not in some way affected by hormones and their interactions."

-That makes complete sense to me, but it is just my personal opinion.

[princessreader]

I totally feel you. Yes, i agree that hormones play a part in personality, well mine do especially when i have PMS, my husband makes SURE he points it out haha!! I can also identify personality similarities in my groups of friends when correlated with the gender of their children. Very well said!

[princessreader]

LacePrincess interesting theory about the firstborn. Would first female count as firstborn? I am the second in my family but the eldest girl, so i guess i would carry firstborn personality traits....

[princessreader]

By the way, i think i may have used the wrong word when i said "aggressive". I only put that in because i felt it covered many types of traits that meant 'strong' but it seems to be regarded as a negative word. However, the worrying, nervous, descriptions seem to make more sense and apply to many of boy mums. It's that woman who is quick to worry, fearful, anxious types who seem to be boy mums and perhaps it's these feelings that become the motivator behind that "aggression" or "neurotic-ness" that then unfolds into the competitive, independent, feisty characters i am trying to describe as "Aggressive" Sorry, getting my words in a jumble! Maybe a better word would be "anxious".....interestingly, anti-anxiety/anti-depressents seem to sway girl correct?

[mykiwibaby]

Oh i can totally relate to this! Before i had children i was chilled out, relaxed, calm all the time - like water off a ducks back type of gal..... had a DD, second time again very relaxed (i child is soooo easy LOL) and again another DD, this time around - im stressed out, mood swings like a crazy person and i will abuse anyone within 10 feet of me when i in a mood!! and im expecting a boy??!!!

[NeedGrace]

Wow! So interesting! I have always been an anxious type...always stressed out over anything & everything- a complete worrier. Until recently anyway I had terrible mood swings & a short fuse & I hate to say it but was a bit of a yeller. I have 3 boys. Interestingly I have become very close friends with a mum of 3 girls who is much more girly than me, much calmer & less stressed, & as I have been influenced by her approach to situations, I have found myself becoming more relaxed, less anxious & much, much calmer too. I've been doing a loose LE diet & have started on Zoloft too so all these things have contributed to me being more chilled out & calmer. Let's hope that helps with my sway!!

[atomic sagebrush]

I always thought it was the sperm that determined the gender or is it the environment they go into have a bearing?? Well my SIL is the narkiest b***h you could ever meet and she has a lovely little girl...interesting concept though!

sperm do determine the gender but it's believed the environment or the egg has some part to play in which sperm wins the race.

This is an interesting thread (firstborn and argumentative here :wave:) but I think it's really a lot more complicated than that. It can be hard to discuss because people end up with hurt feelings but I have an essay about it here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-discussion-ttc-boy-girl-home-swaying-info/1211-what-does-really-mean-have-high-low-testosterone-scientifically.html

Personallly I find doctors and lawyers I know to have more boys than girls. A study was done that found women with Master's degrees have more sons than the population as a whole.

[atomic sagebrush]

By the way, i think i may have used the wrong word when i said "aggressive". I only put that in because i felt it covered many types of traits that meant 'strong' but it seems to be regarded as a negative word. However, the worrying, nervous, descriptions seem to make more sense and apply to many of boy mums. It's that woman who is quick to worry, fearful, anxious types who seem to be boy mums and perhaps it's these feelings that become the motivator behind that "aggression" or "neurotic-ness" that then unfolds into the competitive, independent, feisty characters i am trying to describe as "Aggressive" Sorry, getting my words in a jumble! Maybe a better word would be "anxious".....interestingly, anti-anxiety/anti-depressents seem to sway girl correct?

Yes that's partly why I don't always love when this topic comes up, because everyone gets their feelings hurt- boy moms feel like they're being called b!tchy and girl moms feel like they're being called wimps when neither is the case at all.

Antianxiety meds seem to sway girl for biological reasons, but I do consider the possibility that it's also the effect on personality that may sway to some extent. my personality had def. changed before i conceived DD.

[Peppermint]

I'm a stressor too. Interesting thread and bodes well for what I see amoungst my friends / family...

Eek, I'll have to try and change my personality to get my pinky!

[mummyof3boys]

Love thus thread
I agree with you when ppl I no are pregnant I generally guess what they are having based on thier personality
I am def very outspoken confident moody ect
But I am more "girly" than my sister but she is more shy def not a strong confident person ( she has 2 girls) so I think it's the personality for sure

[boymaker]

This thread is a little scary because I have two boys and have a very hard time keeping myself under control. I get annoyed very easily, yell a lot and I've even been told I sound angry all the time. Sigh, I really hope these are all just coincidences.

[jark22]

This thread is a little scary because I have two boys and have a very hard time keeping myself under control. I get annoyed very easily, yell a lot and I've even been told I sound angry all the time. Sigh, I really hope these are all just coincidences.

Yes - this often sounds like me. I get annoyed easily and really have to try hard to not yell. And go figure, I just found out we are having boy #3...

[hotdogz&boyz]

I think it can be A factor, not a cut-and-dried factor, since there are so many other things at work in the body that we just can't measure or see. It's almost impossible to fete out one single thing and say "this causes that." For anything really. But there are some trends that seem pretty prevalent. And I do think this personality/hormone/birth order can have an effect.

My two oldest aunts on each side (oldest children period) both have more boys than girls (one had three boys, one had two boys and a girl). I have two boys and am expecting a girl. I conceived my girl when I was breastfeeding, which clearly has a a hormonal effect. And I am definitely classified as aggressive, independent, and feisty. It is probably what people would use to describe me on the whole. And my mom too, who also has two boys and a girl.

A good friend of mine is also a high-test Italian lady. She is the older of two girls. Her sister is so sweet and laid back. Both are similar in weight, similar in appearance, and eat basically the same stuff. One smokes (my friend) and her sister doesn't. Both had BC oopsie babies as their first. My friend...boy. Her sister...girl. My friend went on to have a second boy. It does seem kinda funny how they totally followed the trends on that one.

[princessreader]

I'm so glad that so many women find the thread interesting because i personally find it so interesting myself. Ps i am a mother of two boys so if i insulted anyone well i might as well be insulting myself - either way, my apologies. I honestly just feel that the LE diet makes so much sense when you think about what it does to your body in terms of biology but also in terms of character. Really what does eating less do for me? It makes me a lot more subdued, weaker and therefore calmer, i don't have as much energy to run around creating fuss and worry. The more you eat, the more energy you give yourself especially if you are a typical boy eater type (small meals and snacks all throughout the day). So i do think the diet and personality are connected to some degree, if you choose look at it in that way.

The whole idea of swaying makes sense to me because i am a typical woman governed by my hormones. I get extremely bad PMS and the week before my period my hormones rage as if i was pregnant. I suffer from this alot and am constantly looking for solutions to help. Not surprisingly, all the classic "girly tips" (pepperment tea, progesterone cream, anti-deps, lavender, eating less, crystals, light cardio etc) seem to naturally aid this natural state of imbalance i find. I don't just regard them as a means of TTC girl for me, but they actually all work wonders for my lifestyle in general. It makes sense that more girls are conceived in the summer and more boys because people naturally tend to eat less in the summer and get hungrier in winter months. Sometimes i wonder whether having 2 boys (whom i love to utter bits) has actually helped me in some ways to reflect on my own lifestyle and natural approach to life in general and has almost been a mirror for me to take a step back and review how i can attempt to deal with situations in better ways. My husband's constantly telling me to calm down and not worry so much about things that haven't happened and maybe just maybe for this once, he just might be right :D

[rainbowflower]

to me, it also partly comes down to where does personality end and hormones begin? hormones will have some influence, but some character traits could look like they are caused by hormones when they're not too