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Adia
December 14th, 2012, 12:04 PM
Is their info on gender dreaming about swaying after a miscarriage? If their is I can't find it, anyone who could point me in that direction is a gem.

The "What to expect" book says wait 3-6 months but that seems like a long time to me. I was only 5 weeks out from ovulation so I wasn't that far along.

TIA for any advice!!

The Anchor
December 14th, 2012, 12:14 PM
Oh Adia...I am so sorry. It's SO hard, I had a m/c at 12 weeks in October. HUGS.

Getting pg right away after a m/c apparently sways pink. But it also seems like you are more fertile right after a m/c, probably because your hormones are already "set" for a pregnancy. So those two points seem to counter each other.

Some docs will tell you to wait one full cycle after your m/c, for dating purposes. And if you have a d&c, they will usually recommend you wait a couple of cycles so that your lining has a chance to build up. I didn't have a d&c, and my doc told my I was good to try again right away...but I have my age against me so not a lot of time.

Again, so sorry this happened, it's just so hard, let me know if you want to chat.

Wishing4Princess
December 14th, 2012, 12:19 PM
Hi Adia, I am looking for something similar, but i'm swaying for a girl. I wonder if it is different for swaying for boy and girl. I read some where that if swaying for boy it's best to wait longer because the uterine lining becomes stronger..but i'm not sure..

vanasse2002
December 14th, 2012, 01:13 PM
I had a m/c in 9/06 and had to have a D&C...we waited until 2/07 to ttc and conceived a girl. A friend of mine also had a m/c in 9/06, she did not have a D&C, conceived in 11/06 and had a boy.

Adia
December 14th, 2012, 01:22 PM
Oh Adia...I am so sorry. It's SO hard, I had a m/c at 12 weeks in October. HUGS.

Getting pg right away after a m/c apparently sways pink. But it also seems like you are more fertile right after a m/c, probably because your hormones are already "set" for a pregnancy. So those two points seem to counter each other.

Some docs will tell you to wait one full cycle after your m/c, for dating purposes. And if you have a d&c, they will usually recommend you wait a couple of cycles so that your lining has a chance to build up. I didn't have a d&c, and my doc told my I was good to try again right away...but I have my age against me so not a lot of time.

Again, so sorry this happened, it's just so hard, let me know if you want to chat.

Thank you Anchor, having people who have been there, done that always helps. I was only 5 weeks a long, I think 12 weeks would be much harder.

My age has got to be a factor in this too. I am 37 and, as we well know, having babies after 35 can be tricky.

I am hoping to sway the end of January which would be 6 weeks from now and two menstrual cycles. If Atomic or my doctor strongly advise otherwise I'll shoot for the end of February.

Thanks again, here's hoping we both get strong little beans in the coming months.:LotsofLove:

Adia
December 14th, 2012, 01:23 PM
Hi Adia, I am looking for something similar, but i'm swaying for a girl. I wonder if it is different for swaying for boy and girl. I read some where that if swaying for boy it's best to wait longer because the uterine lining becomes stronger..but i'm not sure..

I have heard that too, for some reason swaying after m/c sways pink, if that seems to be a common occurrence, I can wait a bit.

Adia
December 14th, 2012, 01:25 PM
I had a m/c in 9/06 and had to have a D&C...we waited until 2/07 to ttc and conceived a girl. A friend of mine also had a m/c in 9/06, she did not have a D&C, conceived in 11/06 and had a boy.

I have feared a D&C but at the rate things are going today and yesterday, I think I will get out of it. This heavy bleeding isn't much fun though....

Thanks for the info, it is always interesting to know how things have worked out for others.

Wishing4Princess
December 14th, 2012, 01:32 PM
question, what is a D&C??

Adia
December 14th, 2012, 01:46 PM
dilation and curettage, haven't had to have one, but it sounds unpleasant.

Many times the doctor will do a D&C to ensure that the body had expelled all the fetus and lining after a miscarriage. OR to stop any bleeding that may result from a miscarriage.

As I understood it, a D&C was used before abortion was legal, as a 'medical' way to terminate a pregnancy in a doctor's office. I am guessing that when a teenager got pregnant in the 1950's and 1960's and the patient &/or parents were able to convince the doctor to abort, it was done this way so that it was legal.

vanasse2002
December 14th, 2012, 01:47 PM
I probably could have gone without the D&C, but they wanted to make sure that everything was cleared out. It will cut down on the length of time and how much you will bleed.
A D&C is called dilation and currettage. It's a procedure where they basically clear out everything in your uterus following a pregnancy loss. It is commonly used when your body does not m/c on its own.
I know how upsetting this can be. I have had 2 m/c. One was extremely early (5-6 weeks) and the other was at 12 weeks. It was very hard and upsetting, but with time, it does get better. I now have 2 beautiful DD's and my oldest would not be here had it not been for either m/c.

Wishing4Princess
December 14th, 2012, 01:49 PM
I read some where that Thyroid issues and ovarian cysts are a cause for some miscarriages. is this true for anyone?? the last time I checked my thyroid was before i went on the LE diet. it was a little on the abnormal side. my OB also mentioned something about seeing 'small' cysts when she did an u/s.

Now i'm totally confused .. do you think this might have been the cause of my m/c? next week I will be going in for another appt. and I am demanding more tests to be done. But, what kind of test should I ask her to do for me to find out if I have issues w/ thryoid, cysts, etc. is there a possibility that I might have PCOS?? gosh I am confused.

I read into pcos and so many of the symptoms I can relate to, but when i mentioned to my regular DR. she said I don't 'look' like the type to have PCOS, b/c I am not overweight and my periods are very regular etc.. I still don't believe that those are the only 2 things that determine if you have pcos or not.

I may just be paranoid, but I do deserve the right to know what in the hell is going on w/ my body and why? so what type of blood test should she do for thyroid, pcos, etc..

Adia
December 14th, 2012, 01:59 PM
I read some where that Thyroid issues and ovarian cysts are a cause for some miscarriages. is this true for anyone?? the last time I checked my thyroid was before i went on the LE diet. it was a little on the abnormal side. my OB also mentioned something about seeing 'small' cysts when she did an u/s.

Now i'm totally confused .. do you think this might have been the cause of my m/c? next week I will be going in for another appt. and I am demanding more tests to be done. But, what kind of test should I ask her to do for me to find out if I have issues w/ thryoid, cysts, etc. is there a possibility that I might have PCOS?? gosh I am confused.

I read into pcos and so many of the symptoms I can relate to, but when i mentioned to my regular DR. she said I don't 'look' like the type to have PCOS, b/c I am not overweight and my periods are very regular etc.. I still don't believe that those are the only 2 things that determine if you have pcos or not.

I may just be paranoid, but I do deserve the right to know what in the hell is going on w/ my body and why? so what type of blood test should she do for thyroid, pcos, etc..

I could put my name on this post and call it my own because I can relate to everything perfectly. I have ovarian cysts and the u/s tech thinks I ovulated on the right. WHen the doctor was looking at my ovaries w/ the u/s the day before she noticed a cyst on my right ovary. I have had several doctors tell me I don't "look' like I could have PCOS either, but I do, I hate to tell them that we aren't made in molds that make us all exactly the same.

My thyroid seems to be off too. I told my chiropractor and she gave me some vitamins and minerals to help, but my hair still seems to be falling out faster than it should. I have had military medical doctors and they don't care for the most part so long as you aren't way out of the range of normal. I could be scraping the bottom of the normal range of thyroid and if its still within the 'normal' range, they ignore it. I see a civilian doctor on Monday so I am going to ask for more testing too.

I think a plain thyroid test should tell you about your thyroid and they are some basic PCOS tests too, its just a matter of getting a doctor to listen and cooperate.

Wishing4Princess
December 14th, 2012, 02:18 PM
dilation and curettage, haven't had to have one, but it sounds unpleasant.

Many times the doctor will do a D&C to ensure that the body had expelled all the fetus and lining after a miscarriage. OR to stop any bleeding that may result from a miscarriage.

As I understood it, a D&C was used before abortion was legal, as a 'medical' way to terminate a pregnancy in a doctor's office. I am guessing that when a teenager got pregnant in the 1950's and 1960's and the patient &/or parents were able to convince the doctor to abort, it was done this way so that it was legal.

Oh ok. I asked my OB if I needed to get one. she said they usually recommend it, but since I was only 5 wks then it's really not necessary.

two of my girlfriends have had a D&C done at 16 wks m/c and 20wks. I guess the further along you are, the harder it is for the body to get rid of the tissue on its own.

Wishing4Princess
December 14th, 2012, 02:27 PM
I could put my name on this post and call it my own because I can relate to everything perfectly. I have ovarian cysts and the u/s tech thinks I ovulated on the right. WHen the doctor was looking at my ovaries w/ the u/s the day before she noticed a cyst on my right ovary. I have had several doctors tell me I don't "look' like I could have PCOS either, but I do, I hate to tell them that we aren't made in molds that make us all exactly the same.

My thyroid seems to be off too. I told my chiropractor and she gave me some vitamins and minerals to help, but my hair still seems to be falling out faster than it should. I have had military medical doctors and they don't care for the most part so long as you aren't way out of the range of normal. I could be scraping the bottom of the normal range of thyroid and if its still within the 'normal' range, they ignore it. I see a civilian doctor on Monday so I am going to ask for more testing too.

I think a plain thyroid test should tell you about your thyroid and they are some basic PCOS tests too, its just a matter of getting a doctor to listen and cooperate.

Omg, i'm glad I mentioned this! I felt like I was alone in this. and My doc looks at me like i'm crazy! this past week when my OB was doing an u/s she said she doesn't see 'any big cysts' ..I was so shocked to hear that I even had cysts!?! so really..why didn't my regular doc want to go a step further to check!? ughh..this makes me even more hopeless. I don't think I will ever conceive a girl.

Adia, I even read that D&C does sway girl. that could be the case for you? the 2 friends I was talking about now have girls, 1 year after their m/c and D&C...maybe I should ask for a D&C? jk...really I don't want to put my body through that, physically and emotionally, if there's no need too.

Adia
December 14th, 2012, 03:08 PM
Oh ok. I asked my OB if I needed to get one. she said they usually recommend it, but since I was only 5 wks then it's really not necessary.

two of my girlfriends have had a D&C done at 16 wks m/c and 20wks. I guess the further along you are, the harder it is for the body to get rid of the tissue on its own.

That seems logical. Since I was just 5 weeks too i think I will escape it.

atomic sagebrush
December 14th, 2012, 03:08 PM
Is their info on gender dreaming about swaying after a miscarriage? If their is I can't find it, anyone who could point me in that direction is a gem.

The "What to expect" book says wait 3-6 months but that seems like a long time to me. I was only 5 weeks out from ovulation so I wasn't that far along.

TIA for any advice!!

For a blue sway I would wait one cycle, unless a person were over 10 weeks in which case I would wait two. I think it's ridiculous to wait 3-6 months.

atomic sagebrush
December 14th, 2012, 03:09 PM
Hi Adia, I am looking for something similar, but i'm swaying for a girl. I wonder if it is different for swaying for boy and girl. I read some where that if swaying for boy it's best to wait longer because the uterine lining becomes stronger..but i'm not sure..

Yes, it is totally different. For a girl you should TTC as soon as is feasible after your m/c, for a boy you should wait at least 1 good cycle (so if you have one kooky short cycle, don't count that).

atomic sagebrush
December 14th, 2012, 03:10 PM
Thank you Anchor, having people who have been there, done that always helps. I was only 5 weeks a long, I think 12 weeks would be much harder.

My age has got to be a factor in this too. I am 37 and, as we well know, having babies after 35 can be tricky.

I am hoping to sway the end of January which would be 6 weeks from now and two menstrual cycles. If Atomic or my doctor strongly advise otherwise I'll shoot for the end of February.

Thanks again, here's hoping we both get strong little beans in the coming months.:LotsofLove:

End of january would be great. I'm so sorry. :(

atomic sagebrush
December 14th, 2012, 03:18 PM
I read some where that Thyroid issues and ovarian cysts are a cause for some miscarriages. is this true for anyone?? the last time I checked my thyroid was before i went on the LE diet. it was a little on the abnormal side. my OB also mentioned something about seeing 'small' cysts when she did an u/s.

Now i'm totally confused .. do you think this might have been the cause of my m/c? next week I will be going in for another appt. and I am demanding more tests to be done. But, what kind of test should I ask her to do for me to find out if I have issues w/ thryoid, cysts, etc. is there a possibility that I might have PCOS?? gosh I am confused.

I read into pcos and so many of the symptoms I can relate to, but when i mentioned to my regular DR. she said I don't 'look' like the type to have PCOS, b/c I am not overweight and my periods are very regular etc.. I still don't believe that those are the only 2 things that determine if you have pcos or not.

I may just be paranoid, but I do deserve the right to know what in the hell is going on w/ my body and why? so what type of blood test should she do for thyroid, pcos, etc..

Thryroid issues are one of the main reasons for miscarriage, even if your numbers are still in the realm of normal but just slighlty low/high, we have been having some success with people given low dose meds to get the numbers more average.

Having some cysts months ago prob. had nothing to do with your loss. Most of us have some cysts at various times in our lives. To have PCOS, you have to have most of the symptoms of it - if you only have a couple symptoms, it's not likely that you have it. Virtually everyone has a few symptoms of PCOS, but you need to have the "constellation" to have PCOS.

Please don't look too hard trying to find reasons for one miscarriage. It was prob. just one of those things and stressing too much over it only will cause you heartache because you end up questioning everything and consumed with guilt about something that probably just was never meant to be :heart: If you have more than one in a row then you need to start looking harder for a cause, but at this point, I would just TTC again.

If it gives you peace of mind to have your thyroid checked, that may be a good idea, but I do not think you need to have any kind of full workup or anything like that.

Adia
December 14th, 2012, 03:19 PM
End of january would be great. I'm so sorry. :(

Thanks Atomic, I appreciate it.

It was so surreal to get a BFP after my first attempt. I kind of knew something was off. I had typical symptoms for the first few weeks and then a sharp drop off. When I started bleeding on Monday I had a bad feeling. But walking around thinking everything was ok when it wasn't was no good, now I know and I can move on. I do know the drill for swaying, just have to get back to it.

I am going to do a much more Gender Dreaming HE sway this time, not eliminating healthy foods that I love, like Oats because A-gender recommended it. The diet last time was the pits until I switched it to be more HE.

atomic sagebrush
December 14th, 2012, 03:20 PM
Omg, i'm glad I mentioned this! I felt like I was alone in this. and My doc looks at me like i'm crazy! this past week when my OB was doing an u/s she said she doesn't see 'any big cysts' ..I was so shocked to hear that I even had cysts!?! so really..why didn't my regular doc want to go a step further to check!? ughh..this makes me even more hopeless. I don't think I will ever conceive a girl.

Adia, I even read that D&C does sway girl. that could be the case for you? the 2 friends I was talking about now have girls, 1 year after their m/c and D&C...maybe I should ask for a D&C? jk...really I don't want to put my body through that, physically and emotionally, if there's no need too.

PLEASE do not have an unneccesary medical procedure. D and C have risks that should not be overlooked that can lead to infertility or death.

atomic sagebrush
December 14th, 2012, 03:22 PM
I could put my name on this post and call it my own because I can relate to everything perfectly. I have ovarian cysts and the u/s tech thinks I ovulated on the right. WHen the doctor was looking at my ovaries w/ the u/s the day before she noticed a cyst on my right ovary. I have had several doctors tell me I don't "look' like I could have PCOS either, but I do, I hate to tell them that we aren't made in molds that make us all exactly the same.

My thyroid seems to be off too. I told my chiropractor and she gave me some vitamins and minerals to help, but my hair still seems to be falling out faster than it should. I have had military medical doctors and they don't care for the most part so long as you aren't way out of the range of normal. I could be scraping the bottom of the normal range of thyroid and if its still within the 'normal' range, they ignore it. I see a civilian doctor on Monday so I am going to ask for more testing too.

I think a plain thyroid test should tell you about your thyroid and they are some basic PCOS tests too, its just a matter of getting a doctor to listen and cooperate.

There is a form of thyroid dysfunction called Hashimoto's Disease that often appears along with PCOS. You can have Hashimoto's without PCOS and PCOS without Hashimoto's, but for some reason they do often appear together.

Wishing4Princess
December 14th, 2012, 04:05 PM
PLEASE do not have an unneccesary medical procedure. D and C have risks that should not be overlooked that can lead to infertility or death.

No, of course not. just saying that the D&C seems to be swaying pink. I am going to get my thyroid checked though.

Wishing4Princess
December 14th, 2012, 04:10 PM
Thanks Atomic, I appreciate it.

It was so surreal to get a BFP after my first attempt. I kind of knew something was off. I had typical symptoms for the first few weeks and then a sharp drop off. When I started bleeding on Monday I had a bad feeling. But walking around thinking everything was ok when it wasn't was no good, now I know and I can move on. I do know the drill for swaying, just have to get back to it.

I am going to do a much more Gender Dreaming HE sway this time, not eliminating healthy foods that I love, like Oats because A-gender recommended it. The diet last time was the pits until I switched it to be more HE.

I felt exactly the same. my symptoms were there for a short while..suddenly I didn't feel pregnant any more. I even had a 'drop'' in my stomach. it was higher and bloated first 2 wks. then next week I saw a dent and looked like flat tire..if that makes sense.

I will see my OB next week to see if the tissue she had seen in the u/s is gone..and asking for more tests to be done. hopefully, we'll be ok to ttc soon!! . GL w/ everything!

Cass
December 14th, 2012, 04:38 PM
Hi ladies,

I am going through my first miscarriage as well. I was just over 4 weeks. My doctor checked my thyroid and it was "normal".

I have reached a point where I am no longer looking for a reason that this happened and now think that it is just "one of those (awful) things". I know I am going to be so nervous trying again but at the same time I am looking forward to being pregnant again.

My doctor suggested that I wait one cycle before trying again and it seems like Atomic agrees with that approach as well (for TTC boy). I also think this is the amount of time I need emotionally before starting again.

All the best to everyone.

The Anchor
December 14th, 2012, 04:44 PM
Good luck Cass. I am swaying for a healthy egg this month (which looks like a boys sway)...two cycles after my m/c. Will keep you posted :) over in the boy sway thread.

Adoptapom
December 14th, 2012, 05:10 PM
I am so sorry for your loss. We went through a mc this August, I was date wise 18 weeks, but the baby died around 16 weeks. I had a d&e August 9th.

For what it's worth, we did all the testing and only one thing came back abnormal and my ob said that still may not have been the cause. It's hard not knowing why, and you can drive yourself crazy going over every detail/day/choice you made. Hang in there.

I didn't know about d&c and d&e swaying, but I guess it's too late! Give yourself time, ask for testing if you want it, and I hope you will have better news soon.

atomic sagebrush
December 14th, 2012, 09:23 PM
No, of course not. just saying that the D&C seems to be swaying pink. I am going to get my thyroid checked though.

Ok, I'm sorry! Ya never know the stuff some people come up with for swaying. :)

Aussiechic
December 15th, 2012, 06:23 AM
Oh ladies....I'm so sorry for your loss (Adia, Wishingforprincess and Cass), :sadflwr:

I've only just had a miscarriage and am going through the high/low swings daily still (MC was almost 2 weeks ago now). The first few days post MC I was just kind-of numb and seemed to be coping ok then when the bleeding began to ease off, my hormones levels dropped and I just didn't feel pregnant anymore. Then it all sort of hit me! I seem to have alternating good/bad days atm hoping to even out soon....

I bought a personalised sway plan earlier this week so that I'll have something concrete to focus on and am hoping to TTC again as soon as possible after mid-Jan. This will all depend on what Atomic recommends about timing though... My Dr has given me the ok after my first cycle due to medical reasons. I kind-of wish I could start trying again now because I feel like I have to keep living through the loss atm and can't move on yet.

Thinking of you all and hoping we all have healthy little beans soon :HH:

atomic sagebrush
December 15th, 2012, 11:10 AM
I'm so sorry for everyone's losses. :(

Adia
December 15th, 2012, 02:00 PM
I am so sorry for your loss. We went through a mc this August, I was date wise 18 weeks, but the baby died around 16 weeks. I had a d&e August 9th.

For what it's worth, we did all the testing and only one thing came back abnormal and my ob said that still may not have been the cause. It's hard not knowing why, and you can drive yourself crazy going over every detail/day/choice you made. Hang in there.

I didn't know about d&c and d&e swaying, but I guess it's too late! Give yourself time, ask for testing if you want it, and I hope you will have better news soon.

18 weeks! You poor thing. I am lucky it was so early for me, I can only imagine how difficult it was to lose a baby at 16/18 weeks.

Adia
December 15th, 2012, 02:03 PM
Oh ladies....I'm so sorry for your loss (Adia, Wishingforprincess and Cass), :sadflwr:

I've only just had a miscarriage and am going through the high/low swings daily still (MC was almost 2 weeks ago now). The first few days post MC I was just kind-of numb and seemed to be coping ok then when the bleeding began to ease off, my hormones levels dropped and I just didn't feel pregnant anymore. Then it all sort of hit me! I seem to have alternating good/bad days atm hoping to even out soon....

I bought a personalised sway plan earlier this week so that I'll have something concrete to focus on and am hoping to TTC again as soon as possible after mid-Jan. This will all depend on what Atomic recommends about timing though... My Dr has given me the ok after my first cycle due to medical reasons. I kind-of wish I could start trying again now because I feel like I have to keep living through the loss atm and can't move on yet.

Thinking of you all and hoping we all have healthy little beans soon :HH:

Thank you Aussiechic, I have been horribly sick since last Saturday so having a miscarriage in the middle of it all has been rotten. I still feel sick from the flu I have had and lousy from the miscarriage. Maybe time will warp speed for the next few weeks and this will all be behind us soon enough.

Aussiechic
December 26th, 2012, 10:59 AM
Hi ladies...
Update on me...it seems AF is on the way (only 3.5 weeks after my miscarriage). I was expecting to have to wait longer than this for my cycles to resume. Most days I'm doing better now...focusing on the future and swaying for a little girl (this has proven tough over Christmas).
Hope you're all doing ok xx

atomic sagebrush
December 28th, 2012, 12:56 PM
:cheer: :fx: for lots of Jan BFP!!

Aussiechic
December 29th, 2012, 09:43 AM
Another update....false alarm about the AF! Seems my body's completely out of wack since the MC... Will let you know when my first cycle happens. Crossing fingers for BFP early in the new year!! xx

atomic sagebrush
December 29th, 2012, 04:45 PM
:fx: it happens soon!!!