Gender Dreaming pink swaying success statistics

[rainbowflower]

I calculated the results for the trends thread but assume that more people will see it if I put them here... so re-posting!

Total yielding a girl: 67 successful sways
Total not a girl: 42 sways
Total unknown: 6 sways

Total sways = 115
Total sways with known outcomes = 109
Total sways pending results (i.e. too early to tell yet, or not confirmed a recent scan result) = 35

Swaying success of all known results: 61%
Swaying success assuming the unknown results were opposites: 58%



ETA!!
I've received a few comments saying they thought it would be higher than 61%, so I thought I'd add up the children that swayers had BEFORE swaying and see what % were girls, just as a reference point.

For sways with known outcomes:
total preexisting girls: 14
total preexisting boys: 218
percentage girls: 6%

For all sways:
total preexisting girls: 16
total preexisting boys: 229
percentage girls: 7%

so... 61% doesn't look quite so bad compared to 7% ;)

[rainbowflower]

quite impressed that only 6 haven't come back to update us :)

[auroara78]

very interesting, thanks for doing the math :)

[atomic sagebrush]

thank you!

[rainbowflower]

updated with pre-sway % of pink

[lollylegs]

Firstly, thank you!

But may I seek clarification ...


I calculated the results for the trends thread but assume that more people will see it if I put them here... so re-posting!

Total yielding a girl: 67 successful sways
Total not a girl: 42 sways
Total unknown: 6 sways

Total sways = 115
Total sways with known outcomes = 109
Total sways pending results (i.e. too early to tell yet, or not confirmed a recent scan result) = 35




so successful = 67 (girls) / 109 total = 61%; and if assume unreported 6 are male, then 67 / 109+6 = 58%

Gather then a further 35 sways pending not included in total? but will be updated as known?

[rainbowflower]

Firstly, thank you!

But may I seek clarification ...




so successful = 67 (girls) / 109 total = 61%; and if assume unreported 6 are male, then 67 / 109+6 = 58%

Gather then a further 35 sways pending not included in total? but will be updated as known?
yes that's right

I'll go through the results again in a couple of months and recalculate them. We've already had one more successful sway too even since I did these :)

[atomic sagebrush]

I actually may have a few more successful pink sways because some of the sway plan people don't ever post an actual sway...I'm assuming these are just people who posted their sway?? I think we shouldkeep those out of the numbers since for all you guys know I could be just making those people up LOL but just so people are aware.

[atomic sagebrush]

I actually think an honest 61% where everyone is included regardless of how "good" their sway was, is awesome. I know it's not as great as the promises made by some of the sites out there but this is real world data, not cherry picked to make it look more effective than it really is. It's people who did great sways, terrible sways, people who were on medication and with health issues and all kinds of things (example, one site omits stats on anyone who has PCOS or is on any kind of medication.)

I expect the % may go up now that we are learning more about the best ways to sway (i.e. being on diet longer and doing only one attempt seem to be yielding better results)

Also, The Odds of Having Another Boy or Girl (http://www.in-gender.com/xyu/Odds/Gender_Odds.aspx) some evidence indicates that for those of us with 2-4 boys to start with, we may not even be starting off with 50-50 odds to begin with so the "sway" may actually be bigger.

[rainbowflower]

no it didn't include those who haven't published their sways publicly

I think that 61% might go up further too (hope so, anyway)

[LilithWiser1979]

I know you want to have an "all inclusive" stat, but I would like to see more of a breakdown between LE dieters and non, strict and loose, exercisers and couch potatoes, and supplement takers and non (specifically REALLY interested in cal/mag supplementation...I'm on the fence on this one right now!)

[rainbowflower]

in the private member section for TTC girl there is a spreadsheet topic and general trends topic with that sort of info in it

[Tree]

It would be great if there were a spreadsheet we could fill out with all the options sober could tick the bits we did and if it was successful or not. This would likely show what sways are working best. Also with the diet what is the min time you should be on it before ttc? And is the LE diet best? Thank you

[atomic sagebrush]

I know you want to have an "all inclusive" stat, but I would like to see more of a breakdown between LE dieters and non, strict and loose, exercisers and couch potatoes, and supplement takers and non (specifically REALLY interested in cal/mag supplementation...I'm on the fence on this one right now!)

There's a list in the Dream Members section (which desperately needs to be updated I"m REALLY sorry about that) where I have the LE vs. IG style sways broken down into two groups. I haven't updated it for 3 or 4 months but the IG style sways (IG or French Diet with cal mag) were 50-50 and the LE Diet with no cal mag was between 60-70%.

Also, for the blue swayers, the ones who eliminated cal-mag were much lower in success rate for boys (don't have numbers in front of me right now) than the ones who did.

[atomic sagebrush]

It would be great if there were a spreadsheet we could fill out with all the options sober could tick the bits we did and if it was successful or not. This would likely show what sways are working best. Also with the diet what is the min time you should be on it before ttc? And is the LE diet best? Thank you

This is problematic tho because no one ever does just ONE thing to sway, KWIM? So as an example, if you ate a lowfat diet and exercised and wore a red hat every day, and then filled out a spreadsheet, it might make it look like wearing a red hat prevented heart attacks but it was just a coincidence. Since people tend to do the same set of things for swaying again and again, then it kind of muddies the water in terms of what is really swaying and what isn't.

LE Diet FAQ is here http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-girl/24628-le-diet-faq.html

I believe the LE Diet is a good sway diet because it's safest of the sway diets, easier to stick to than IG Diet, and you can be on it indefinitely which allows you to pursue other sway tactics as long as you want and not have to worry about getting a BFP quickly. Plus your husband doesn't have to follow it - some people's husbands won't sway. The statistics show it sways pink and we include ALL sways in our stats, the super thorough ones and then the ones where people didn't do much. I'm not going to quantify that in terms of best, I'll leave that for others to decide.

[Kittybear]

If only wearing a red hat whilst dtd swayed pink ;) lol x

[GeCon]

(...)and the LE Diet with no cal mag was between 60-70%.

Also, for the blue swayers, the ones who eliminated cal-mag were much lower in success rate for boys (don't have numbers in front of me right now) than the ones who did.

Atomic, this makes me wonder... I decided against calcium and magnesium for myself, but getting OH to take it as I seem to remember reading something along the lines of "the best of both worlds".

Having read your above post I am now wondering if you think cal-mag should be included in a pink sway at all (where OH is taking it) or should OH drop it too?

[atomic sagebrush]

If only wearing a red hat whilst dtd swayed pink ;) lol x

I know, right?? :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Atomic, this makes me wonder... I decided against calcium and magnesium for myself, but getting OH to take it as I seem to remember reading something along the lines of "the best of both worlds".

Having read your above post I am now wondering if you think cal-mag should be included in a pink sway at all (where OH is taking it) or should OH drop it too?

Someone went thru stats on IG and compared husbands who took cal-mag and those who didn't, and there was NO difference. That leads me to believe the cal mag makes no difference, so it can't hurt and may help.

[Emily]

Someone went thru stats on IG and compared husbands who took cal-mag and those who didn't, and there was NO difference. That leads me to believe the cal mag makes no difference, so it can't hurt and may help.

Thanks to everyone on this thread- good to hear things stated so clearly. What do people think about the length of time to be on the diet? I was going to try in feb making it just over 6 weeks but now think it might be a good idea to stay on it an extra month before trying.

Thanks!

Oh just found the answer in the FAQs 3 months is better!

[rainbowflower]

I might have some more statistic updates soon - for all the main aspects of sways:
diet
length of time
frequency of BD
no. of attempts
different supplements
douches
old wives tales, etc

just want Atomic to have a look at them first

[rainbowflower]

closing this one as it's out of date (already!), newer stats here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-girl/25157-complete-pink-swaying-statistics-spreadsheet.html