Anyone else here from the Uk!?

[Tree]

I thought it might be nice to help out each other. For instance there are some products that I guess are American that I've never heard of so it would be good to know and share the English equivalent. I also know procedurally things are a bit different with our hospitals, scans etc...

[Tiggerian]

There's quite a few of us on this forum and I think there are a few UK threads as well =D

[Tree]

There's quite a few of us on this forum and I think there are a few UK threads as well =D

Yeah after I posted I did see another uk one. But then I saw it started in 2011 so I thought no harm in starting another one. Also I didn't know if there might be more recent information, it can get a bit confusing... But then again that might be because I'm new to all of this! :-)

[Dollydot]

Hi Tree i am also from UK, that sounds good. When are you ttc? my first attempt is mid feb....

[Tree]

Think we will have our first attempt in March as haven't started the diet yet. I also haven't had my first ppaf yet but feel it is imminent. What strategy are you taking re timing, diet, keeping ph low etc... And do you already have little ones?

[nuthinbutpink]

There are a bunch of gals in the Member TTC a girl forum! They have a "sticky" UK thread there.

[2lovelyboys]

Hiya, I am also from the UK, reading through the forums there are quite a few of us from the UK, I am also having my first attempt (ttc pink) in March, :fingers:
There is a thread of women ttc pink in march 2013 in the members section, some of those are also UK. If you are ttc blue and are unsure of any products no harm in running it past any of us as we may (or may not) be able to help, also there may also be a similar thread in the ttc boy section. Hope this helps

[Dollydot]

I started LE diet 27 December really losing weight fast. Finding the salt thing really hard, but i did find saltless bread called Crosta & mollica from waitrose buts needs to be toasted. I never drank milk with the boys so started drinking organic skimmed milk and low fat organic yogurt. Really missing my glass of wine, i have to full on boys so by Friday i am more then ready for a drink...
I am planning to do 0+12 frequent felease one attempt, if no luck will drop it need to get it out of my head.
Planning to use aci jell, rephresh and antihistamines.
Already started Vitex, saw palmetto, fiber, and baby asprin.
I know over kill but in no rush....

[Tree]

There are a bunch of gals in the Member TTC a girl forum! They have a "sticky" UK thread there.

Thank you, I will try and find it... This website slightly confuses me at the moment.

[Tree]

Hiya, I am also from the UK, reading through the forums there are quite a few of us from the UK, I am also having my first attempt (ttc pink) in March, :fingers:
There is a thread of women ttc pink in march 2013 in the members section, some of those are also UK. If you are ttc blue and are unsure of any products no harm in running it past any of us as we may (or may not) be able to help, also there may also be a similar thread in the ttc boy section. Hope this helps

I'm ttc pink in march too!

[Tree]

I started LE diet 27 December really losing weight fast. Finding the salt thing really hard, but i did find saltless bread called Crosta & mollica from waitrose buts needs to be toasted. I never drank milk with the boys so started drinking organic skimmed milk and low fat organic yogurt. Really missing my glass of wine, i have to full on boys so by Friday i am more then ready for a drink...
I am planning to do 0+12 frequent felease one attempt, if no luck will drop it need to get it out of my head.
Planning to use aci jell, rephresh and antihistamines.
Already started Vitex, saw palmetto, fiber, and baby asprin.
I know over kill but in no rush....

Do you plan all your meals in advance? I need to make a plan for mine... good info on the saltless bread. What else do you eat? Do you exercise too?
I also have two boys and totally know what you mean about the glass of wine!!
I think I am going to try a cut off, I don't think I would be able to pinpoint when I ovulate as I get a lot of EWCM and days of ov pain. Even my OPK's can stay positive for a few days sometimes... Why have you decided to do 0+12 over cut off? I can't decide what seems to get better results!
I will use rephresh and antihistamines too. Was going to do baby asprin but then got freaked out about blod clots! Think I will go for lots of diet coke to try and lower ph! As well as acidophilus sups.
What is Vitex, saw palmetto and fiber?
Thinking this girl making business may take a while...

[2lovelyboys]

I am taking vitex, saw palmetto, baby aspirin, folic acid and will take antihistamines closer to the time, Dollydot where did you get your fibre supplements from? Oh and I'm also drinking a pint of diet coke a day!
Tree, you only take low dose aspirin for 3-5 days not all the time, I've started marking it all in my diary, soo confusing. In the forums, member section, ttc pink, there is a thread for ttc pink in march 2013 cycle buddies

[Dollydot]

Defo do a meal plan it really helps. I eat a lot or veggies with rice and noodles, waitrose also do lovely spicy & aromatic singapore rice noodles really good in a stir fry. still drinking coffee and diet decaf coke. for a treat skinny cow ice creams are nice only 90 cal. The dream member section is really helpful with diet. I'm doing 0+12 cos i did 3 cut off with ds2, just doing timing back then, will prop drop it after first attempt if no luck. Vitex is to up your progesterone and saw palmetto is to lower your testosterone, you can buy them all on amazon, there is lots of info about them here on this site. Hope this helps...

[Dollydot]

Hi 2lovelyboys, I started on benefiber but it was making me feel sick, so i ordered some tablets called pharma nord bio fiber from amazon...

[2lovelyboys]

Thank you Dollydot that helps!
I bought my vitex (Agnus Castus) and Saw Palmetto from Holland and Barrett :). I should any be swap my diet coke to decaf, hmmmm decisions

[Kittybear]

Hey fellow UK based ladies! Hope everyone gets a quick and sticky bfp! I hope you will all still be around and on hand when the dh and I go for our second in August/ sept time :) x x

[Dreamofpink]

Welcome fellow Brits! I've been here since August and in my 5 months on the le diet, I've found a wealth of products that fit in perfectly. Here's a list for you all, I hope it helps:
Warburtons Danish White Bread
Morrisons - Moroccan-style hummus, NUME red pepper and NUME Jalapeno hummus, NUME cake slices inc lemon, chocolate chip or carrot cake
Ryvita Crackerbread
Go Ahead chocolate & strawberry thins
Special K Chocolate Biscuits Moments
Walkers Baked Stars crisps - any flavour
ASDA - Chilli penne and spirali pasta (lower in cals and protein than standard pasta)
Chocolate Philidelphia cheese and any low-fat Philli
Snack-a-jacks Caramel flavour rice cakes and the chocolate chip ones too
Weight watchers - Rocket and Mozzarella pasta sauce, Tikka masala sauce, Roasted garlic pasta sauce, Creamy Mushroom sauce (high in sodium, maybe a treat meal), Bagels, Part-baked mini-baguettes, Spicy Arriabiatta microwave meal (again maybe only for a treat meal) chocolate mini rolls (YUM!!!), any of their cake slices (Toffee apple flavour is fab). Be careful with any of their biscuit range as they tend to have oats in them. Best place for getting WW food is Poundland
Options hot chocolate
Cadburys hot chocolate (40cal one)
Snapjacks biscuits
Levi Roots Rasta Pasta sauce
Shape no fat yoghurts (my favourites are the apple crumble and rhubarb crumble flavour)
Lidls - no fat yoghurts
Mentos sugarfree triple flavoured chewing gum
Robinsons Special R squash
I think that's about it but I'll pop back and edit the list if I think of anymore things!

[Tree]

Kittybear, I suspect we will still be here August/sept. Suspect it will take a while!

[Tree]

Dreamofpink that's great thank you!! Have you found you've lost lots of weight on the diet? Are you exercising too?
What are everyone's methods with regard timing etc..?
Will look into Vitex and Saw... I do get a bit nervous about supplements. Actually the whole thing makes me a bit nervous, particularly as I'm still bf and want to give my baby all he needs.
Starting diet tomorrow! Do you guys not eat until after 12? And how do you stop yourselves from feeling really hungry?
Exciting!!

[Dreamofpink]

No problem! Yes I've lost over 2st and despite trying to maintain my weight it's just too easy to drop another lb or so if I'm not careful. All I have left in my sway now is the diet and clomid next month if I get a bfn again.

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[thehappypixi]

Hello!
I actually quite like the empty feeling until lunch now, it feels like I'm doing something, if you know what I mean?!

[Dollydot]

Hi guys, nice to know other people on the same path.. Thanks Dreamofpink for the food info really helpful.

[Tree]

Look forward to when I like the empty feeling...! :-) its 9.15 and I'm already thinking about food... Good thing is at the moment I don't really have LE diet stuff in the house so will have to go shopping first!
Day 1! I've had decaf coffee with two sweeteners... For lunch think ill have toast and jam. And for dinner pasta and pesto. Sound good? Do I have to find salt free bread, butter and jam? And is brown bread ok?

[Kittybear]

I think white bread is better on the pink diet as whole meal has more 'goodness' in it. Hth x

[rainbowflower]

I'm from the UK too and have 2 boys (1 was the result of a pink sway last year) and planning on swaying again in a few years
you need to be a member (paying the annual subscription, which isn't that much really) and then you can access additional private forums

it's difficult skipping breakfast, but it does get easier!

[GeCon]

I found this thread incredibly helpful. Some of the information is a bit out of date now, but most of it still applies:

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-girl/3489-uk-ladies-lets-help-each-other.html

[Sweet mummy]

Hiya! I'm also in the UK ttc a pinky in March!

Your best bet is to read this first http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-girl/23588-ttc-girl-library.html and then go from there!

Looks like a lot of reading but it's all you need to know about ttc in one place and anything else you're unsure about you can just ask!

[2lovelyboys]

Dreamofpink thank you for the food list, ideas are always handy as I find I keep sticking to the same safe foods!
I find skipping breakfast easier some days than others, today I am starving and counting down the hours until lunchtime, I tend to eat at 12.30, this morning I have been trying to fill myself with diet coke

[GeCon]

As for the bread, there are these two. I have found the Weight Watchers one very light and fluffy and the Tesco one is really yummy too. That is as low sodium as I could find, I think you will struggle finding a sodium-free one.

http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj63/roddypiper_photos/Capture.jpg

[Tree]

I got the weight watcher bread yesterday and will try it today. Meal wise I had white pitta with diet sweet chilli philli with rocket and lambs leaves. Then later had salad with low fat honey and mustard dressing on. Does that sound good? Drinks wise, one glass of cranberry juice, coffee with sweetener and caffeine free diet coke...
I'm yet to buy and start supplements!

[Tree]

Ok I have a few questions. How do you girls check your ph? I got the papers but find them impossible to read. Also with the supplements are they ok to take whilst breast feeding? Finally I got my ppaf, but just 6 days after ovulation!? Thank you!

[Sweet mummy]

I'm still bf DS2 so can only take vitex, folic acid and antihistamine but only on the day of attempt. Most other supps are no-nos while bf! What were you thinking of taking?

Lucky your AF has returned! I'm hoping the vitex will bring mine back.

I'm not bothering to check my ph as Atomic doesn't think it sways anyway.

HTH x

[rainbowflower]

Ok I have a few questions. How do you girls check your ph? I got the papers but find them impossible to read. Also with the supplements are they ok to take whilst breast feeding? Finally I got my ppaf, but just 6 days after ovulation!? Thank you!

I swayed pink while BF DS1, and got DS2. You can't take things that alter testosterone levels such as saw palmetto, antihistamines can harm milk supply so some can't take them then, and whilst vitex is thought to be OK there have been no studies done to prove whether or not it's safe. You also can't take aspirin and taking cranberry can alter the pH of the milk which might affect the baby. Next time I'll be stopping BF to sway, and then going full on with the saw palmetto and aspirin!

[GeCon]

Rainbow, so you don't think BF'ing is swaying enough then?

[Sweet mummy]

Rainbowflower - what supps did you take for your sway? I'm sure you've told me but I can't remember :oops:

Just curious as I feel like my sway won't be as strong without saw palmetto x

[Sweet mummy]

Rainbow, so you don't think BF'ing is swaying enough then?

Not to step on rainbowflower's toes but I conceived DS2 whilst bf DS1 as well but he was already 19 months old then so was only two feeds to nap and at bedtime. This time DS2 is 6 months when we will start to ttc so I think that sways more as my nutrients are being depleted more through frequent bf.

[rainbowflower]

I was only doing 1-2 feeds a day, so I feel that the benefits of BF were significantly reduced by that point. DS1 had already been weaned onto solids and those were the main part of his diet by then.

this was my sway: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/add-your-girl-sway/8236-rainbowflowers-pink-sway.html
so took vitex and B6 (for luteal phase defect caused by breastfeeding), omega3 supp (to improve egg quality and improve the lining for easier implantation). I did take a few cranberry supplements and DS1 didn't seem to suffer from any milk changes with that!

[GeCon]

Are there any stats at all to show what gender is conceived when BF'ing by age of the breastfed child?

[rainbowflower]

Are there any stats at all to show what gender is conceived when BF'ing by age of the breastfed child?

not that I've seen anywhere.. external-studies wise

on the new spreadsheet I've created I've put which sways from this site were BFing when TTC, but didn't add age of child into that. From what I can see there were 8 pregnancies while BFing, and 5 got girls (so 62.5% of BFers had pink)

[GeCon]

not that I've seen anywhere.. external-studies wise

on the new spreadsheet I've created I've put which sways from this site were BFing when TTC, but didn't add age of child into that. From what I can see there were 8 pregnancies while BFing, and 5 got girls (so 62.5% of BFers had pink)

Can we guess by the age of the previous children how old the breast-fed children may have been?

[Tree]

My baby is only 4 months old so I am still exclusively bf-ing. What are the girl swaying benefits of bf-ing then? And will I continue to have a short luteal phase while bf-ing? What do the various supps do?

[rainbowflower]

My baby is only 4 months old so I am still exclusively bf-ing. What are the girl swaying benefits of bf-ing then? And will I continue to have a short luteal phase while bf-ing? What do the various supps do?

you have your cycles back already?

BF itself lowers oestrogen and testosterone (which is why you might not get AF at first/lower CM), and also soon after pregnancy your nutrients will already be lower and BFing gives your nutrients to LO too.
So whilst milk is your baby's main source of food I think BFing sways really strongly if you can get pregnant then
BFing makes you less fertile by messing with ovulation, luteal phase, and drier CM (for some people)

vitex "regulates hormones" and can lengthen luteal phase, but can also mess with OV making it either more regular if you were irregular, or irregular if you were already regular
vit B6 can lengthen luteal phase

I had a severe luteal phase defect whilst BF so at 1 year I took vitex and vit B6 to lengthen it. It went from 5 days up to 12 days in 2 cycles and night-weaned at the same time down to 2 feeds a day

[Sweet mummy]

you have your cycles back already?

BF itself lowers oestrogen and testosterone (which is why you might not get AF at first/lower CM), and also soon after pregnancy your nutrients will already be lower and BFing gives your nutrients to LO too.
So whilst milk is your baby's main source of food I think BFing sways really strongly if you can get pregnant then
BFing makes you less fertile by messing with ovulation, luteal phase, and drier CM (for some people)

vitex "regulates hormones" and can lengthen luteal phase, but can also mess with OV making it either more regular if you were irregular, or irregular if you were already regular
vit B6 can lengthen luteal phase

I had a severe luteal phase defect whilst BF so at 1 year I took vitex and vit B6 to lengthen it. It went from 5 days up to 12 days in 2 cycles and night-weaned at the same time down to 2 feeds a day

I think I've read somewhere B6 sways blue?

[rainbowflower]

I think I've read somewhere B6 sways blue?
it might do a bit, but if you have such a severe luteal phase defect that you can't conceive you can't get a girl either! and I think if you're deficient in the majority of nutrients then taking enough of a few won't do any harm (for example folic acid, we take excessive amounts of that without blinking sway-wise)

[Tree]

Thank you! It's so hard to make decisions about any of it isn't it. I got my period back early after both kids. I know that it was only 6 days between ovulation and getting my period and normally my periods are regular, give or take a few days. Think I will see how long my next luteal phase is and then take it from there.

[rainbowflower]

as you reduce feeds it should lengthen a bit on it's own. When will you be TTC?

[Tree]

We were hoping to start in March with the expectation it will prob take a few months as I think we will do a cut off and gradually creep closer and closer to ovulation. I didn't realise luteal phase length corresponded with how regularly you are breast feeding, that's very interesting.

[rainbowflower]

the more you BF, the more it negatively affects your hormones... that's the simple enough reason! as soon as you night wean your fertility will increase more, and then more again when you replace daytime feeds with food

[Tree]

Does anyone have anymore diet tips? I'm hungry! :-)

[Tree]

as you reduce feeds it should lengthen a bit on it's own. When will you be TTC?

Does pumping act like reduce feeds? I've not ovulated yet and my ovulation sticks don't even look close so think I might not see Af for a while. Don't want to ttc until I've had a normal luteal phase.

Also uk ladies I was wondering how you check ph of cm? I got some strips on amazon but I can't get any colour out of them.

[Tree]

Hi Tree i am also from UK, that sounds good. When are you ttc? my first attempt is mid feb....

Are you all prepared and ready to go?

[rainbowflower]

Does pumping act like reduce feeds? I've not ovulated yet and my ovulation sticks don't even look close so think I might not see Af for a while. Don't want to ttc until I've had a normal luteal phase.

Also uk ladies I was wondering how you check ph of cm? I got some strips on amazon but I can't get any colour out of them.

pumping still counts as a feed if you express enough for a feed

I agree about waiting until you have a normal luteal phase before TTC. My first TTC pink cycle I had AF turn up way too early after OV and had a really bad luteal phase defect and it made it very stressful. I had to stop for a bit to get my cycles back but it meant my diet beforehand had been wasted.

I didn't bother checking pH. I bought two brands of litmus paper on eBay (one from China, one from UK) and both were too hard to interpret either not changing colour or changing to multiple colours in different areas. I just used RepHresh and trusted that it was working in the end.

[Dollydot]

Hi Tree, yep ready to go i think! ovulating around 21st... The weight is dropping off me, but can't help going over a bit on my salt intake oh well praying it's going to be ok....I agree with rainbowflower i'm not worrying about testing ph just get some good jells (aci-jel)(Rephresh) on the go, you don't want to stress and get your T levels up. Will keep you guys posted..

[Tree]

Hi Tree, yep ready to go i think! ovulating around 21st... The weight is dropping off me, but can't help going over a bit on my salt intake oh well praying it's going to be ok....I agree with rainbowflower i'm not worrying about testing ph just get some good jells (aci-jel)(Rephresh) on the go, you don't want to stress and get your T levels up. Will keep you guys posted..

What are you doing timing wise? I can't decide what to do! Was going to do cut off but the more I read the more I'm convinced timing doesn't mean anything. But I think should I do frequent bd through ovulation or request release but just one bd...??!
Good Luck, very exciting! Def keep me updated!

[Tree]

I agree about waiting until you have a normal luteal phase before TTC. My first TTC pink cycle I had AF turn up way too early after OV and had a really bad luteal phase defect and it made it very stressful. I had to stop for a bit to get my cycles back but it meant my diet beforehand had been wasted.

Yeah my luteal phase was just 6/7 days!! Was that your ppaf too then? If so how long did it take for your luteal phase to regulate?
Do you mean you had to stop trying or stop breastfeeding? I'm planning on stopping the night feeds...
I'm doing the diet but think I just don't eat in the morning and then eat loads in the evening because I am so hungry!!

[rainbowflower]

Yeah my luteal phase was just 6/7 days!! Was that your ppaf too then? If so how long did it take for your luteal phase to regulate?
Do you mean you had to stop trying or stop breastfeeding? I'm planning on stopping the night feeds...
I'm doing the diet but think I just don't eat in the morning and then eat loads in the evening because I am so hungry!!

I think it was my 6th cycle after birth or something like that. The previous cycle had had an 8 day luteal phase so I thought the next cycle would be longer than that so we went for it anyway. I think it was a 6 day luteal phase or something like that.

we nightweaned so went down to just 2 feeds a day, and I increased vitex and vit B6 dosages and between those things it went up to 12 days which is my longest luteal phase ever!

[Dollydot]

Hi Tree, i'm doing 0+12 if no luck will drop it for march, ds2 was a cut off -3 was only doing timing back than, so giving 0+12 one shot to get it out of my head....

[Dollydot]

Oh forgot to say we are doing FR cos hubby is 42 and only one attempt...

[Tree]

I think it was my 6th cycle after birth or something like that. The previous cycle had had an 8 day luteal phase so I thought the next cycle would be longer than that so we went for it anyway. I think it was a 6 day luteal phase or something like that.

we nightweaned so went down to just 2 feeds a day, and I increased vitex and vit B6 dosages and between those things it went up to 12 days which is my longest luteal phase ever!

I used to be 14day lp so 6 days was quite surprising! Will see what happens this month, although at the moment there is no sign of ovulation so it's already not normal (for me).

I thought you couldn't take Vitex whist bf-ing?

[rainbowflower]

you can take it, it just hasn't been tested to prove if it's safe or not. Many do take it while BF, though, and I know Atomic did too.

I took each tablet immediately after a BF to minimise the effects getting into the milk

[Tree]

I just put this on other post but thought I'd put it here too... My average day...

Maybe I can get feed back from those with more knowledge about the diet?

BREAKFAST
Decaf coffee with sweetener

SNACK/FOOD BREAKFAST at 12.00
WW toast x 2 with unsalted butter and low sugar jam
Actimal probiotic drink

Cranberry juice

LUNCH at 14.00
Bit of carrot with houmous
WW wrap with tzatziki in.
Laughing cow low fat triangle
WW yogurt

Cranberry juice

DINNER at 7pm
Rice noodles with sweet and sour sauce and green beans
WW Yogurt

SNACK EVENING OR AFTERNOON
2x large caramel snack a jacks

Other foods and drinks I have are:
-WW bagels with low fat sweet chili philli
- WW pitta
- Quorn (turkey, Sausages)
- Rice Pops
- Iceberg lettuce with low fat honey and mustard dressing
- lambs lettuce
- Rocket
- Cucumber
- Broccoli
- Pasta with pesto
- Semolina
- Tapioca
- Rice pudding
- Caffeine free diet coke
- Peppermint tea
- Strawberry liquorice
- Wine gums - too much gelatine?
- Almonds
- Walnuts
- Cranberry

THINGS IM THINKING OF ADDING
- Crackerbread
- Matzo
- Tofu
- Spinach
- Strawberries
- Raspberries
- Leeks
- Courgettes
- Grapes
- Evian water

How does it sound? What should I add/remove?

Thank you!

P.s. At the moment DH has only cut red meat out of his diet. He is willing to eat whatever so should he do the same as me? Plus LR.
I'm not taking any minerals or supplements at the moment as I'm ebf-ing. My cycles are also all over the place and I won't ttc until they regulate.

[2lovelyboys]

Are you able to drink peppermint tea while bf? I'm not sure.
It's been advised to drop probiotics (Actimel drink at breakfast) when ttc pink.
I think iceberg lettuce is the only recommended one, others to nutritious. Make sure you peel your cucumber. leeks, peeled courgettes, white grapes and Evian Water are all fine to my knowledge

[Tree]

Are you able to drink peppermint tea while bf? I'm not sure.
It's been advised to drop probiotics (Actimel drink at breakfast) when ttc pink.
I think iceberg lettuce is the only recommended one, others to nutritious. Make sure you peel your cucumber. leeks, peeled courgettes, white grapes and Evian Water are all fine to my knowledge

Oh I didn't know about peppermint being a no no when bf-ing, why is that?
Are probiotics too healthy then? How annoying, they had a deal in the supermarket so I bought loads!! :-)

Thank you for feedback!

[rainbowflower]

yes peppermint tea is fine whilst BF

the acidphious probiotic had one of the lowest "success rates" in the TTC girl swaying stats, which is why people are dropping it

[Tree]

yes peppermint tea is fine whilst BF

the acidphious probiotic had one of the lowest "success rates" in the TTC girl swaying stats, which is why people are dropping it

So the actimel isn't harmful then? Seeing as I have it it would be good to drink!

[Tree]

Is stress meant to sway girl or boy? Because I've read that stress raises testosterone ( boy) but also decreases maternal condition ( girl ).

[1adorablebabyboymom]

Is stress meant to sway girl or boy? Because I've read that stress raises testosterone ( boy) but also decreases maternal condition ( girl ).

I would also like to hear about this. Maybe the 'type' of stress?