I Had an Epiphany RE: Amount of Time on Diet Before Swaying

[Sihaya]

This is just a hare-brained theory based on my own reasoning, so take it with a grain of salt. I just thought other ladies on here would find it interesting.

Laying in bed early this morning, I was thinking about possible reasons for why the stats are showing that 3 months on the LE Diet is resulting in a higher percentage of successful pink sways than 6-8 weeks. I kept thinking about things that are 3 months long or take 3 months. Seasons popped into my head. Even in places where there aren't 4 distinct seasons, the crops that are available to eat change based on the time of year in predictable cycles.

Then it occurred to me that 3 months before conception is the exact same season/time of year that the baby will be born (an easy way to roughly estimate a due date is to count backwards 3 months + 1 week from conception).

What if our bodies take into account the last three months of diet/nutrition we've taken in because it is a probably a very good way to predict the nutrition we'll be getting during the first three months of baby's life? Of course, I have no suggestion for how this could possibly work, but it would provide an explanation for why, at least.

[mommymachine]

I like it!

[atomic sagebrush]

:bowdown: Makes a world of sense to me!!!

[strawberrymom]

I believe that eggs take 90 days to mature so that might be part of the equation as well.

[rainbowflower]

I believe that eggs take 90 days to mature so that might be part of the equation as well.
this was my thought

[atomic sagebrush]

Could even explain WHY eggs take 90 days to develop - gives your diet at the time of conception enough time to make a difference, 9 months before you conceive, so that your baby is then born at the same time of year you conceived in (sorry if confusing, children are rioting)

You ladies are brilliant! :)

[Sihaya]

I know that's the "reason" and I'm not arguing it at all, but I'm still wondering about the evolutionary "Why?" Why do eggs take 90 days to mature? There's likely a reason that specific amount of time is most advantageous for conceiving and birthing babies that continue on long enough to have their own offspring.

Edit: Posted at the same time as Atomic!

[nuthinbutpink]

I believe that eggs take 90 days to mature so that might be part of the equation as well.

This

[Dreamofpink]

I think it makes perfect sense! Also might it explain the tendencies for more girls conceived in the spring months? A harsh winter preceding conception could favour a girl as she would be more likely to thrive. I just love all the theories and ideas behind the science of swaying!

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[The Anchor]

I believe that eggs take 90 days to mature so that might be part of the equation as well.

This is always where I end up too. Your eggs are "evolving" or maturing in the environment you make for 3 months, making the signal of famine or feast a strong one.

[Dreamofpink]

Just out of curiosity, at what point evidence-wise would the recommended minimum time on the le diet be upped to 12 weeks? :)

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[mindyjean]

I think this is fantastic. :)

[Navywife620]

This makes total sense... now I am wondering if I should push back my attempt or maybe we will just do one attempt this month and keep it strict. I will be on the diet 9 weeks and a couple of days.

[atomic sagebrush]

I still come back to boy girl twins with the egg maturation idea tho.

[atomic sagebrush]

This makes total sense... now I am wondering if I should push back my attempt or maybe we will just do one attempt this month and keep it strict. I will be on the diet 9 weeks and a couple of days.

NO and this is why I cringe a little when this topic comes up. Some people do not have the weight to spare pursuing diet for 90 days. It has been disastrous for many, many people who tried to diet 90days before ttc and I just really really don't think it is a good idea for about 2/3 of pink sweaters to go for 90 days on diet before even starting to try.

Proceed with caution, ladies.

[atomic sagebrush]

Lol that was supposed to say pink swayers

[atomic sagebrush]

Just out of curiosity, at what point evidence-wise would the recommended minimum time on the le diet be upped to 12 weeks? :)

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Never, Because I am weighing other things into the equation besides straight success rates...

Safety, sanity,overall pregnancy rates, potential loss

12weeks is not a good blanket prescription for everyone. A LOT of people should not be on diet that long, at least not without ttc.

If 50 people sway doing 6 weeks diet and 28 get girls and 22 boys, then 50 people sway 12 weeks and 25 get girls and 15 get boys and 8 render themselves infertile, one gets divorced and the other goes into an insane asylum, then on paper it looks like 12 weeks is better but it is not.,

[Sihaya]

Thank you so much for saying that, Atomic!

I love that the theories and ideas behind the different swaying tactics here are backed up with facts and science. I love that we have data and spreadsheets to draw on. But what I love most is the acknowledgement that we can't sway in a bubble. We need to be able to do it while also still conceiving healthy babies that make it all the way to birth and maintaining intact physical, mental, and family health the whole time. It's so easy to forget how important it is to keep that in perspective.

[Goodus]

Atomic, I am planning to ttc in May so that is about 90 days. Would it be a good idea to start VERY slowly on the LE diet for example having 2 meals ( which ill be doing because of Lent anyway) and just having vegetarian but not limiting too much calories or worry about nutrients? And when would be a good time to start the strict sway then?

[greeneyes]

A typical blood cell has a life cycle of about 90 days too. If you are able to keep your sugars low for the most part for at least 90 days, your A1C levels would drop and there is a link between lower blood sugars and girls, right? (A1C levels are the average blood sugar levels your body maintains over the cycle of a blood cell or about 90 days.) So, it tells your body its in hardship and to produce a girl over a boy. Probably has something to do with your pH levels too, but that's Atomics area.

Hope this information helps too! :)

(With this in consideration, it would be okay to 'cheat' on a number of occations without it being too big of a deal. It also gives -if I'm correct remembering- more of an explaination into why women with insulin resistance and PCOS have more boys along with horemone levels.)

[atomic sagebrush]

Atomic, I am planning to ttc in May so that is about 90 days. Would it be a good idea to start VERY slowly on the LE diet for example having 2 meals ( which ill be doing because of Lent anyway) and just having vegetarian but not limiting too much calories or worry about nutrients? And when would be a good time to start the strict sway then?

I think it's ALWAYS a good idea to start off slowly and get more strict over time because it's easier to stick to. Most people think "well, I'll start off super strict" but they can't maintain it, and so then they go from a kind of thing where times were really bad but then get a bit better, instead of the other way around.

Much better to sway sustainably and make small changes over time, than to go for too much and fail. "She who reaches for the stars, often ends up flat on her face"