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Pompeyboy81
April 11th, 2013, 07:25 AM
Hi Ladies,

Just thought I would post, as I currently have two DS and would really like a DD, me and my DW tried to sway last year twice, by doing the Shettles method (3day cut off, me tight pants and hot bath before we BD). Unfortunately both ended up in MC, we have since seen a miscarriage specialist who can help and has put my DW on lots of vits etc. Before the miscarriages my DW was desperate to have a DD but now is just desperate to get pregnant and for it to stick. I on the other hand really do want a DD, I guess both my DS are mummy boys and until they get older they will always be closer to my DW.

My DW is on board with the whole swaying, I have been reading lots of peoples successful attempts with swaying, from what I can gather the EL diet is pretty key but alot of threads where DH has taken licorice root and mag/calc seem to stand a better chance of having a girl, whereas when the DH is not really on board some seem to fail. Also abstinence for 7+ days and 3/2 day cut off and O+12 seem to be key

If we were to have a successful pregnancy next, we have a name for both genders, as guess we both think it will be a boy.

My DW is watching her calorie intake at present but due to her job does not get a break during the day, so always has breakfast is it best to have cereal (read somewhere not recommended) or to have toast with peanut butter (read peanut butter was good for swaying girl)

I was also wondering if anyone had any good recipe ideas for girl swaying as a lot of food now has sodium in

If anyone could give me advice I would really appreciate it

2lovelyboys
April 11th, 2013, 07:35 AM
Hi and welcome!

Cereal is a no no, it is fortified with lots of healthy vitamins and minerals. The aim of LE (Low Everything Diet) is for the body to think times are hard, it is low nutrient.

I'm not great with recipes, tend to stick to the same boring meals. Lunch tends to be a Philadelphia Light sandwich (white bread) and dinner a stir fry (courgette, peeled, mushrooms, leeks, rice noodles or white rice). There are areas on here where people post their meal ideas, maybe that would help?

Good luck

Pompeyboy81
April 11th, 2013, 08:19 AM
Thanks very much for your thread 2lovelyboys, are you currently swaying girl? is you DH taking supps?

thehappypixi
April 11th, 2013, 08:37 AM
Hey welcome aboard :)
My DH is onboard, he is taking Licorice root and cranberry tablets twice daily from the first day of my cycle (period) to the 14 day mark or first positive ovulation predictor (OPK) also a calcium and magnesium tablet once a day. He has cut meat and eggs from his diet (with the odd cheat) and will be abstaining for 7 days before our attempt. (Which will be once at positive OPK) Hot baths and tight pants are also on the list for reducing male fertility, you've done that one already :) He is smoking also but if your not a smoker, don't start! I just stopped him quitting at new year for the time being ;D

Good luck!

Pompeyboy81
April 11th, 2013, 08:58 AM
Hi happypixi,

Thanks for the reply, is smoking supposed to increase chances of a girl?

Sound like we are on the same page regarding swaying, I have ordered LR just waiting to come through the post

Do you view Chinese chart predictions?

Can I ask how many Cranberry tablets/LR your DH is taking? and what strength they are?

I will order calcium and mag I think, what strength are these also

Do you think that DH has quite a big sway? and sorry about the questions is your DH just as keen as you for a DD?

mommymachine
April 11th, 2013, 09:52 AM
I am 7 weeks pregnant and here is what DH and I did:

I took Metamucil with 1-2 meals a day.
I skipped breakfast
Tried to stick to the boundaries of the LE diet.
Took 1800mcg of folic acid since I just had two early miscarriages
Used acijel at our attempt

DH took 2 pills a day of 350/175 mg cal/mag, 3 pills a day of 420mg cranberry, 3 pills a day from AF-O of 450mg of LR.

I did things differently with my first daughter...but with her too I used acijel at attempt. Hope I have a sister for her!

And I hope you and DW get a girly!

Pompeyboy81
April 11th, 2013, 10:00 AM
Hi Mommymachine,

Thanks for the reply, I really hope this one sticks for you, after knowing what heartache MC brings.

Gd luck and thanks for all the quantities above, it was really useful

thehappypixi
April 11th, 2013, 12:37 PM
I'd have to check the doses, but they're both from Holland and Barrett (are you UK?)

Smoking reduces fertility so sways girl, anything that reduces fertility sways girl and visa versa :)

I think his sway is as good as it can get really, he's doing everything I've asked him to do bless him (he even said he thinks his balls have shrunk hahaha!)
He has a daughter from a previous relationship, he would be happy with either, it's mostly for me :) I'd be happy with either too, just extra specially happy to have a different flavour next time :)

Pompeyboy81
April 12th, 2013, 06:28 AM
Hi happypixi,

Yeah I am uk based, so holland and Barrett is close. Gd job DH is on board. Do u u mind is your DH older than 35 as they claim abstaining for 7 days can cause birth defects? I am younger than this only by a few years but does show a little bit more success!

Do u know of anyone that has had a successful sway?

Hope you get your DD

2lovelyboys
April 15th, 2013, 08:49 AM
Unfortunately my DH won't take any supplements, he is happy for me to sway but it stops there.

We are also UK, i also bought the majority of my supplements from Holland and Barrett, anything I couldn't find in there I ordered from Amazon.

We are both in our early 30s, last month we abstained and had 1 attempt at +OPK resulted in a BFN :( this month we are going to BD through ovulation.

There are quite a few ladies on here that have had successful sways and got there DReam Gender, can be very reassuring!

atomic sagebrush
April 17th, 2013, 04:23 PM
Oh how sweet, I love that. :heart: my husband was disapponted when we got a girl after 4 sons LOL. :hair:

I think that if you've had some losses, tight pants, abstinence, and licorice root may not be the way to go. I think we should focus on healthy sperm meeting healthy egg and not do anything that could contribute to a pregnancy that has less than optimal chances for swaying. I would also not do O=12 for the same reason - we simply don't know if an egg that is nearing the end of her lifespan is going to produce a healthy baby.

I would advise the following:

DW take 2000 mcg folic acid
8-15 mg zinc 3x a week
18-30 mg iron 3x a week on alternate days than the zinc
low dose aspirin 3x a week

DH take 400 mcg folic
8-15 mg zinc 3x a week
olive leaf extract 500 mg daily

Have you seen the following threads about LE Diet??

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-girl/16780-low-everything-diet-nutshell-version.html

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-girl/24628-le-diet-faq.html

Pompeyboy81
April 20th, 2013, 07:27 AM
Hi atomic,

Thanks very much for your post, blimey did not really know LR would have that much effect. My MC dr (who we r seeing private) as over in the uk u need to have three mc's then u get treatment, has said DW has natural killers cells which is causing the mc's she is take pregniecare with omega three and high dose vit d and 75mg of asprin daily. I guess with all this may hamper are girl chances so thought I would see if I could do my bit!

We have seen the LE diet and my DW is sticking to it best she can the sodium is the hardest. She is skipping breakfast when she can and having low everything.

So do u really think the LR etc that u mentioned above is not recommended.

At present I am taking

10000mg of cranberry
300mg of mag
500mg of calcuim
500mg of vit C
This is all on a daily basis I thought zinc was a DS sway?

My DW ph is at 5 currently and mine 7

Any other advice u can give I would much appreciate it.

atomic sagebrush
April 20th, 2013, 11:48 PM
yes, I really am not too trusting of the LR. It is the most dangerous supp we use.

Does the doctor KNOW your wife has natural killer cells or is this a guess?? REason being, (and I don't mean this to be offensive in any way) but you could be part of the prob. as well, and so I am not wanting to toss in anything into the mix that could really make sperm lower quality, if that makes sense. not to bore you with endless repetition but healthy sperm + healthy egg = healthy baby and miscarriage is (to me anyway) way more heartbreaking than gender disappointment is. When in doubt, I try to err on the side of safety and healthy baby above all else.

Yes the prenatal may hamper your chances a bit but ya gotta do what ya gotta do. If you can't get/stay pg, you have 0% chance of a girl.

Please don't worry about the the sodium. I don't even think it sways, I just keep it in the mix because people want it and it's good for health. I got my DD after 4 boys eating a lot of sodium, after getting my 4th son where I was barely touching the stuff. I'd give 99% odds that sodium has NOTHING to do with genderswaying, it's just too widely eaten and in too high of doses.

Zinc for DH does seem to sway blue BUT it's great for sperm quality. It's totally your call to make.

Pompeyboy81
April 22nd, 2013, 11:23 AM
My DW had blood tests with the Mc dr and they came back with this natural killer cells being the problem, with what he has suggested he has a 85% sucsess rate. The way he put it was natural killer cells is like arthritis it sort of comes and goes

I guess I never thought that mayb I was the problem, ie as I have two health DS thank god, that I was ok, but I did have the youngest five years ok.

I must also admit that having a health baby is the most important thing above all else regardless of sex, just after reading this site and ingender thought we try swaying for a girl, but if it is not meant to be then that's fine.

Do you personnal know of any pregnancies where the LR has caused birth defects I did try to read up about all what I am taking and none came back with birth defects! I see it is used quite a bit on the spreadsheet that you have set up, with what seems a mixed response of gender.

Thanks for taking the time to reply like I say I really do appreciate it!

atomic sagebrush
April 27th, 2013, 08:07 PM
Most of the time when there is a loss, no one ever knows why it happens. I err on the side of caution, and if I had any direct link to demonstrate LR ever causing birth defects I would be screaming at people not to take it. I would not be saying, well I know 3 kids who got birth defects fromLR but it's a good sway tactic...I always play it safe where babies are concerned.

If I had losses I would not use it.