Question about Preseed?

[TTCaPRINCE]

Is the use for Preseed to help sway blue by raising PH and helping more sperm get through or is it for women who need the extra boost because they don't have much EWCM? I am starting to wonder if my chances to sway blue are better off without it? From what I have noticed I get a pretty big amount of EWCM for one day. To the point where it is literally hanging out of me when I go to the bathroom ... the last time I saw my EWCM I took an OPK and got a smiley. Should I just do that when we finally get into our TTC month and just avoid the Preseed altogether? I am just confused as to what purpose it serves or if it is really used to sway blue at all?

[BeadinMom]

Preseed works as a medium...like EWCM, it makes it easier for the sperm to be transported to the egg.
You don't HAVE to use it when swaying boy, but it helps. I had 3 boys without using preseed (or anything else).
When swaying boy, you want to increase your fertility...preseed helps do that for the reason I listed above..
Hope this helps!! Good luck!! :)

[Hobbermittens]

It is great that you naturally have so much EWCM! The preseed is to help swimmers, but if you already have a lot of EWCM, you may not need it, but it is sperm friendly and honestly couldn't hurt. I had a pretty decent amount of EWCM and used the preseed anyway, and got a boy.

The pH of preseed is around 7, which is the pH where sperm survive best.

[Cinss]

Just use it on the days when you dont have as much natural ewcm, i fell pregnant with a boy without it.

[Leebug]

I used it both times & got girls both times! I even added a little BS the second time around to up the PH & still had a girl! I want to use it this time but I'm really afraid to!

[dloui128]

I used preseed and got a boy, but I don't get a ton of EWCM

[TTCaPRINCE]

Just use it on the days when you dont have as much natural ewcm, i fell pregnant with a boy without it.

Did you BD on a day when you had quite a bit of EWCM on your own?

[TTCaPRINCE]

Preseed works as a medium...like EWCM, it makes it easier for the sperm to be transported to the egg.
You don't HAVE to use it when swaying boy, but it helps. I had 3 boys without using preseed (or anything else).
When swaying boy, you want to increase your fertility...preseed helps do that for the reason I listed above..
Hope this helps!! Good luck!! :)


Did you sway for your boys? If so did you BD when you had quite a bit of EWCM on your own?

[TTCaPRINCE]

It is great that you naturally have so much EWCM! The preseed is to help swimmers, but if you already have a lot of EWCM, you may not need it, but it is sperm friendly and honestly couldn't hurt. I had a pretty decent amount of EWCM and used the preseed anyway, and got a boy.

The pH of preseed is around 7, which is the pH where sperm survive best.

Did you use the preseed more as a lube or did you actually use the syringe and put it up there? and how much did you use?

[Cinss]

Did you BD on a day when you had quite a bit of EWCM on your own?
Yes noticed the ewcm quite early in my cycle so thought i should go for it (actually ran out of preseed) and that was the one that got us our boy.

[BeadinMom]

Well...I guess I kind of swayed for my boys without even knowing it...
My diet & body shape fit the boy sway lifestyle.
I usually do have a decent bit of EWCM...especially back then.

[TTCaPRINCE]

Yes noticed the ewcm quite early in my cycle so thought i should go for it (actually ran out of preseed) and that was the one that got us our boy.

Did you have a sway plan as well? Diet? Ph testing? Bd every 2-3 days and for how long? And how many times did you bd after you saw the ewcm for the first time?

[atomic sagebrush]

I used it both times & got girls both times! I even added a little BS the second time around to up the PH & still had a girl! I want to use it this time but I'm really afraid to!

I personally believe the baking soda can be a sway-wrecker because it can kill off sperm. lower sperm numbers can sway pink for reasons we don't totally know. If someone has done a lot to increase CM at the same time, it's tolerable because the CM will dilute the baking soda and help keep the sperm alive, but some people don't get more CM (doing wrong diet and bad supps) and then they toss the BS into the mix and BFN after BFN.

I got 4 boys without it. never paid too much attention till the last one and I had no CM with him and pH of 4.5 o.O

[TTCaPRINCE]

Well...I guess I kind of swayed for my boys without even knowing it...
My diet & body shape fit the boy sway lifestyle.
I usually do have a decent bit of EWCM...especially back then.

How did your lifestyle fit? And what was your body shape like?

[TTCaPRINCE]

I personally believe the baking soda can be a sway-wrecker because it can kill off sperm. lower sperm numbers can sway pink for reasons we don't totally know.

I got 4 boys without it. never paid too much attention till the last one and I had no CM with him and pH of 4.5 o.O

I have decided no baking soda. Pretty much decided no pre seed. Slightly considering egg whites. But I think I've decided I will opk when I see ewcm and if I get a smiley we will be right then. Then the next morning (I usually always notice it at night) and then that next afternoon. How does that sound? Dh and I are also going to start trying to real ease every 2-4 days up until August. Lots of lemon water,green tea, v8 especially from AF-O. We are going to cut back on dairy but not too much since we drink fat free organic. We're just going to try to up salt intake. We eat extremely healthy already. Both vegetarians. So 2ww we are going to make sure we are getting extra protein and potassium! Any suggestions?

[prayforaboy]

I used preseed but still having a daughter. I don't think it sways blue.

[Cinss]

Did you have a sway plan as well? Diet? Ph testing? Bd every 2-3 days and for how long? And how many times did you bd after you saw the ewcm for the first time?

No i didn't get a personalized plan, i was on the HE diet for 12 months, No ph testing, timing went out the window for me after 8 BFN cycles, in the end our little guy was a one hit wonder, 4 days after AF so didnt really get a chance to BD every 2 days but DP would still release every 3 days while i was on AF.

[atomic sagebrush]

I would LOVE to see you switch from fat free dairy to full fat!!!

In the Dream Members section there is an essay all about how to get 5000 mg a day of potassium from diet!

[atomic sagebrush]

I used preseed but still having a daughter. I don't think it sways blue.

There are no magic bullets unfortunately. I wish that there were. :(

[TTCaPRINCE]

No i didn't get a personalized plan, i was on the HE diet for 12 months, No ph testing, timing went out the window for me after 8 BFN cycles, in the end our little guy was a one hit wonder, 4 days after AF so didnt really get a chance to BD every 2 days but DP would still release every 3 days while i was on AF.

Wow 4 days after AF was over? And you had EWCM? So I'm assuming you ovulated really early! Thanks so much for all your advice. I think I'm going to try the HE diet and just BD at first sight if heavy EWCM. And try to make sure DH releases every 2-3 days before.

[TTCaPRINCE]

I would LOVE to see you switch from fat free dairy to full fat!!!

In the Dream Members section there is an essay all about how to get 5000 mg a day of potassium from diet!

I really hate how I feel after full fat dairy. What's the shortest amount of time do you think I could do it?

[Cinss]

Wow 4 days after AF was over? And you had EWCM? So I'm assuming you ovulated really early! Thanks so much for all your advice. I think I'm going to try the HE diet and just BD at first sight if heavy EWCM. And try to make sure DH releases every 2-3 days before.

Yes it was very strange for me to go from Ovulating on cd18-22 to Ovulating on cd12, i have no idea why it happened, but i am not complaining ;)
Your plan looks good!

[Happylane]

a&j,
I used preseed in a syringe because I didn't have a HUGE amt of ewcm and I heard it swayed boy but in actuality I don't think y's LOVE a pH of 7 - I got a girl that cycle. If you already have tons of ewcm I wouldn't mess with a good thing UNLESS the pH of the ewcm you have is a lot lower than the pH of preseed. That's the only way I personally see preseed helping in your particular situation.

[Happylane]

So after I've spent time here reading I have found out that all sperm basically love 7-8 pH and too high it too low isn't good. Atomic days pH shouldn't be something we put effort into because it doesn't really matter. Readers digest version. I guess I just don't understand how the HE diet works to sway bit then. More reading when my kids allow I guess. :)

[atomic sagebrush]

HE Diet sways by raising your overall condition, making you healthier and more fertile and this helps your body to make a lot of CM which helps to sway blue, evne though it isn't SUPER high in pH (in the 7's) you have a lot of it and this helps bring maximum numbers of sperm to egg. It also helps your body to be able to sustain a boy pregnancy because they need more nutrients and your blood sugar needs to be higher for them to develop normally.

[atomic sagebrush]

a&j,
I used preseed in a syringe because I didn't have a HUGE amt of ewcm and I heard it swayed boy but in actuality I don't think y's LOVE a pH of 7 - I got a girl that cycle. If you already have tons of ewcm I wouldn't mess with a good thing UNLESS the pH of the ewcm you have is a lot lower than the pH of preseed. That's the only way I personally see preseed helping in your particular situation.

I got a boy with pH of 4.5. The pH stuff doesn't really work the way people claim that it does more about that here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/11684-ph-pickle.html

I think Preseed is a great boy sway tactic, yes, girls have been conceived while using it but there are no magic bullets!!

[atomic sagebrush]

I really hate how I feel after full fat dairy. What's the shortest amount of time do you think I could do it?

If you can't do it, you can't. It's not a magic blue bullet, just something that might help. You dont' need to forcefeed yourself if you don't care for it, have some coconut oil and drink almond milk or whatever you prefer instead.

[atomic sagebrush]

Wow 4 days after AF was over? And you had EWCM? So I'm assuming you ovulated really early! Thanks so much for all your advice. I think I'm going to try the HE diet and just BD at first sight if heavy EWCM. And try to make sure DH releases every 2-3 days before.

You can definitely have EWCM 4 days or even IMMEDIATELY after AF without ovulating early. It's normal for some of the boy moms to have EWCM 7 days before ovulation. If AF lasts 5 days, then 4 days later a person has EWCM, they could easily still be many days out from ovulating.

I would advise using an OPK and not BD every single day until you get a positive, because if you start having EWCM 7 days before you ovulate, and are BD every day, you may end up inadvertently swaying pink. 7 days of FR is a pink sway tactic. How about this instead: When you see EWCM, start bd every other day, then when you get a pos OPK you can have 3 attempts, that night, the next morning, and then again the following night.

[4Giffins]

I used Preseed to help conceive my boy. I had three days of EWCM prior to O every month and used that to tell when I was going to O instead of OPKs in the months I was charting and the month of my attempt. I still decided to use the Preseed even though I had good amounts off EWCM because I wanted to do everything I could and it made since to me in order to get the most sperm in there to conceive. Plus to my research it could only help in my opinion!We got prego our first try!

[Mackenzie]

How much Preseed is a good amount to use? Should you use it every time you be after af or just around attempt time? Thanks

[4Giffins]

I only used it on my attempts close to O. So on O-2, O-1, and O. I think I did about 2ML according to the syringe I used but I know the directions say to use more. I had a decent amount of EWCM and I didnt want to use so much that I risked washing the sperm away...or just make a big mess! :)

[atomic sagebrush]

How much Preseed is a good amount to use? Should you use it every time you be after af or just around attempt time? Thanks

There's no right or wrong way to do it, I think using some in advance of your sway (like a quarter size dab every day) can help, esp. if you O early and have an oopsie! then I'd use that same amount as a lube for attempts.

[TTCaPRINCE]

So can I just use it like lube instead? Dh and I always just use a little saliva (sorry tmi) but I've read that saliva isn't very sperm friendly. So maybe a should use a little pre seed instead?

[Mackenzie]

Did you use the preseed more as a lube or did you actually use the syringe and put it up there? and how much did you use?

So, you don't need to insert it up there? I would be worried about not getting enough???

[Mum to three girls]

I used a dab on bd days after AF - so every second day - and then used the applicator for the attempts after my positive OPK. Not the whole lot though, maybe 1/3 to 1/2 an applicator. I went though a whole tube of it in two weeks though so may have been quite generous with my usage!

[atomic sagebrush]

So can I just use it like lube instead? Dh and I always just use a little saliva (sorry tmi) but I've read that saliva isn't very sperm friendly. So maybe a should use a little pre seed instead?

Yes that is fine. Saliva is not good for sperm, preseed is best.

[atomic sagebrush]

So, you don't need to insert it up there? I would be worried about not getting enough???

We don't know what is best. Some people have seemingly had trouble getting pregnant when using a whole lot of preseed, it may possibly cause more seamen to come out of your vj after intercourse, lot may dilute too Much...not sure.

so I think it is best to use a small amount, you get the benefits while still a good shot at conception

[TTCaPRINCE]

Well alrighty then! Looks like I'm dropping $20 on pre seed! I just spent an ungodly amount of money on the HE diet today too. This baby is costing me an arm and a leg and he/she isn't even an embryo yet! Haha

[atomic sagebrush]

Well alrighty then! Looks like I'm dropping $20 on pre seed! I just spent an ungodly amount of money on the HE diet today too. This baby is costing me an arm and a leg and he/she isn't even an embryo yet! Haha
That made me lol!!!

[TTCaPRINCE]

That made me lol!!!

Haha I am glad I could make you laugh! I saw the bill and got an instant stomach cramp .. I am still not sure what in the hell we bought haha!

[sd2012]

hey atomic, how much ml of preseed should be used? I think i used lot of preseed last attempt. Please suggest

[atomic sagebrush]

We honestly don't know how much is best, I have seen some people get BFN using a lot of preseed so I would stick with more like a lube-sized dose.

[atomic sagebrush]

Like the size of a large coin