June & July blue swayers chat thread!!!!

[ELP]

I know its a bit late in the month but I thought we should start a thread for blue swayers to help each other out and cheer on in june!! I've seen some new ladies around so hopefully now we have a base we can swap tips!!

For any new ladies basically we are trying to improve nutrition and body condition in order to tell our bodies we are top of yhe foodchain and need to be bareing sons! So the main daily recomendations are a good prenatal so all our essential vitamins are up to date, a good fish oil to cover the omegas mainly 3s and a top tip isvto also have a wheatgrass type supplement to give your body a nice nutritional kick!
Some weight training exervises a few times a week will again increase testosterone and body condition, this doesnt have to be manic and every little helps!

Please feel free to ask away and we'll try our hardest to help and keep youcompany along the way:)

[dloui128]

well said ELP

[ELP]

Just giving this a bump for the weekend:)

Ive noticed that exercise has been popping up so I thought Id add mine here! For me I just went with at home weight training, I dont have any weights around yhe house so instead opted for toddlers! I would once or twice a day pick up one of the LOs and lift them above my head then squat repetition about 10-15 times increasing as I felt stronger. Best thing about this is that after a while your weights, come to you!!! and say lift me! lol, so you cant forget:bigsmile:
Plus, when walking the kids to school I would lift the back wheels of the pushchair off the ground, thw front wheels would try and do their own thing so would create extra resistance traing;) and it just weighed a ton in itself!
In the evening if watching tv in bed just lift a leg an inch up, feel the burn, and if dh pops out set yourself to hold both legs up an inch or two for as long as hes gone,flippin hard!

So even without any equipment you can beef up nicely and without anyone else noticing what your doing!

[Five Beautiful Girls]

Hi Ladies,

Would Barley Grass be ok to drink instead of wheatgrass supplement? they are very similar, I have alway drunk it with pear & apple juice.
What are your thoughts on Cardio when swaying for blue?
Prenatal I am thinking of taking BlackMores Pregnancy & Breastfeeding Gold but I am really unsure about it because of all the other supplement I have started & don't want to over do it & take to much after my last miss hap with Flaxseed,fish oil & EPO & not O at all this mouth but am very happy to say the red flag is up in my house now.....lol


Thanks for your feed back:happy:

[ELP]

I'm pretty sure barley graas is a big:agree: aswell. Do you want to list the full list that you are using/considering 5BG, personally I would recommend the wheat/ barley grass, an oil to be on the safest side fish oil, and the prenatal, then if you want to add anything like a coq10 for egg quality or B vit of anti oxident then they are all optional extras but at least you know you had your bases covered with the main 3:agree:

I also read on another thread that you run 6km a day? I do not know the recommendations for cardio but to me this looks pretty high, would you consider cutting it back and instead bulking yourself up with weight training for a while, just to be on the safe side??

[Hokievol]

My understanding is that weights sway blue, cardio pink, so I'd stick with the weights. I generally like lifting, but was doing more cardio than ever when I got pregnant with my daughter. I'm not going anywhere near cardio this time around and I'm lifting HEAVY weights, not the little 5lb pink girl weights. :-)

[Five Beautiful Girls]

Hi Ladies, I would in a heart beat give up my cardio & do more weights for my sway, absolutely ! I can go back to the cardio later, How long before my sway should I stop the cardio? Now? planning to sway in August.
What do you think No cardio or just cut it right back to just a little? I am thinking to not do it at all just to be safe.
I do water aerobics one night a week , may just do that & no other cardio, what do you think??? I have five girls already & if I have to give up the cardio I will.
This is my list - 1000g fish oil,Vit D 1000mcg,which was highly recommend for a blue sway from one of the other ladies here,prenatal,folic acid,D3 1000mg,CoQ10,fertile CM, & royal Jelly .
I have Question what is LP ? One of the other Ladies said that she took B6 to lengthen her LP.
Thanks for your feed back.

[Hokievol]

Check with AS on the Fertile CM and royal jelly. I was using FertilAid and Fertile CM when I got pg with my daughter, vitex is in one or both and it strongly sways pink. Might want to think about adding a wheatgrass supplement, too, and the boy drinks.
LP = luteal phase, the time after you O and before your period starts. B6 helps lengthen it, I take it for that.
I'm going strict weights, but AS says some cardio is fine, particularly if you don't want to gain a lot of weight on the HE diet.

:-)

[Five Beautiful Girls]

Hokievol , I am with you on the weights, HEAVY.... I don't do pink girl weights as well...lol That made me smile

[Five Beautiful Girls]

Hi Ladies ,I have been having Lemon water & Ural , I have drunk it (LW) for years first thing in the morning with warm water, Does it make any difference if the water is cold or warm?
The Ural has really helped with my PH.
Thanks for the feed back about the royal jelly & Fertile CM would love to find out more about this.
:DD::DD::DD::DD::DD: swaying :DS:

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi Ladies,

Would Barley Grass be ok to drink instead of wheatgrass supplement? they are very similar, I have alway drunk it with pear & apple juice.
What are your thoughts on Cardio when swaying for blue?
Prenatal I am thinking of taking BlackMores Pregnancy & Breastfeeding Gold but I am really unsure about it because of all the other supplement I have started & don't want to over do it & take to much after my last miss hap with Flaxseed,fish oil & EPO & not O at all this mouth but am very happy to say the red flag is up in my house now.....lol


Thanks for your feed back:happy:

Hi! Barley grass is also fine. :agree:

I like the Blackmores because at least one of htem has iodine - I was trying to look up which one without much success so I think it would be easier for you to just look at the bottles yourslef. I would love it if all prenatals worldwide had iodine in them.

Re the cardio - moderate cardio is ok for blue and can help prevent excess weight loss. Max. cardio anyone should do is 45 min a day, 4-5 days a week (and a little less may be better.) in addition to your weight lifting. weight lifting is mandatory, cardio is optional. The type of cardio that builds muscle like climbing steps is great. YOu may want to do soemthing like Taebo which is cardio and musclebuilding together at the same time, just don't go over 40-45 min and don't do it every day - you need time for your body to recover.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi Ladies ,I have been having Lemon water & Ural , I have drunk it (LW) for years first thing in the morning with warm water, Does it make any difference if the water is cold or warm?
The Ural has really helped with my PH.
Thanks for the feed back about the royal jelly & Fertile CM would love to find out more about this.
:DD::DD::DD::DD::DD: swaying :DS:

I am not a super huge fan of Ural but if you've been having it daily for some time, then you're prob. accustomed to it. i do not believe the water temperature makes any difference to your baby's gender.

I have mixed feelings towards royal jelly - some people have actually died from taking it and you never know if you are one of the people who will have a neg. reaction until you take it. I think you can get everything in royal jelly, in a B complex vitamin (or a prenatal with b vitamins in it.)

Fertile CM has backfired for a lot of people. The L-arginine has a tendency to raise T levels at the expense of E levels and then your CM can actually dry up!! If you're getting a decent amount of CM then I'd just stick with the barleygrass and lemon water (and ural if it's working for you) and save the Fertile CM unless you are not getting anything with the other stuff.

[Five Beautiful Girls]

Thanks atomic,
you have given me alot to think about, I think I might just stay away from the royal jelly, not sure what to take for CM because I don't have much at all.
Wow..... I don't want to be one of those Ladies that Fertile CM has backfired on don't know what to do there, Seriously thinking to do no cardio, just don't want to take the chance.
Thanks for your feed back

[Hokievol]

I have seen a big improvement in my CM with the supplements AS recommended. We also plan on using PreSeed for the week before and during our attempts as a lube, it sways blue.

[Pearl327]

Five a lot of ladies, me included have had great results with fish oil and EPO. I also used preseed with my attempts but was having a lot more EWCM with the supps then normal for me 3-4 days of it instead of just 1-2 days

[OnlyPraying]

Good luck lovely ladies!!! :cheerteam:

[Five Beautiful Girls]

Thanks Ladies for your feed bacK, it's great

How much pressed do you use on your attempt? can you just use as much as you want?

[ELP]

I dont know anything about the pressed myself 5 , sorry:)

I did use the Royal Jelly though, first time as capsules, 2nd time as a tablet combo with bee pollen and propolis. We have no family history of any bee allergens so I was happy to give them a go, but as AS says you Can develop an allergy to anything as i have found last year with a harsh reaction to kiwis! which I never had before, apparantly aswell I was told that if you have a kiwi alergy you can also be allergic to latex! Luckily I dont have much to do with latex lol:bigsmile:. So again its on the personal choice list:)

[Pearl327]

How much pressed do you use on your attempt? can you just use as much as you want?

I just used the applicator at 1g and I found that this was enough with my EWCM but you can use more if you need too.

[Five Beautiful Girls]

Thanks ELP, & Pearl327 for your reply, it sure is a hard one to know what to go with because everyone is different , I have been having bee pollen on my cereal every morning.
Thanks for the feed back, :happy:

[Five Beautiful Girls]

Sorry I should have been more pacific about the lemon water I was wondering if warm or cold makes a difference to PH or CM? I don't think so but just wanted to make sure.:happy:

[Cinss]

Sorry I should have been more pacific about the lemon water I was wondering if warm or cold makes a difference to PH or CM? I don't think so but just wanted to make sure.:happy:

No difference with warm or cold lemon water. Fish oil helped my ewcm.

[CSA]

Hi ladies! My husband and I are attempting this upcoming week :) For those who have successfully swayed for a boy or are, would you recommend using protection during the weeks/days leading up to ovulation/fertile window? Or acting as if each time is an attempt with Preseed, laying down for 30 min., etc? Thanks so much!

[dloui128]

Hi ladies! My husband and I are attempting this upcoming week :) For those who have successfully swayed for a boy or are, would you recommend using protection during the weeks/days leading up to ovulation/fertile window? Or acting as if each time is an attempt with Preseed, laying down for 30 min., etc? Thanks so much!



we recommend using no protection and bd'ing every 2-4 days

[Pearl327]

Yep what Dloui said. Act like every time is an attempt and DTD every 2-4 days and get a couple of attempts in during your fertile window

[CSA]

Thank you!!! So if I'm scheduled to ovulate around 27th, is it bad that we haven't been able to DTD yet this week? My husband is on business and I'm having him release. Will be back tomorrow! That's ok to start then DTD and acting as if each is an attempt, right? Thakns so much :))

[dloui128]

Thank you!!! So if I'm scheduled to ovulate around 27th, is it bad that we haven't been able to DTD yet this week? My husband is on business and I'm having him release. Will be back tomorrow! That's ok to start then DTD and acting as if each is an attempt, right? Thakns so much :))

yes that is fine

[Cinss]

goodluck CSA

[CSA]

Thank you so much ladies! Another question- what would you do in this scenario? My husband has been away a lot this week with a new job, so we have not been able to DTD. :( He has been releasing every 2-4 days though! I still haven't gotten a positive OPK yet (totally have signs and my cycle is regular, so will probably be sometime today or tonight)... Do you think its okay that we just get our 2-3 attempts AFTER it becomes positive or do you think we should have DTD on O-3 or O-2? :/ We really aren't in a super rush so I want to maximize our chances and do it right! Should we wait til next month to get more unprotected attempts in? With our daughter (not swaying), we only did one attempt after OPK was positive. Thank you so much :)

[ELP]

I would bd as much as possible from now, especially if you know you are due to ov soon, fill those crypts lol!!

[CSA]

Hello! Quick question.. Got a positive OPK on Friday evening and had one attempt that night, one in the AM, and one last night. As of 8am this morning, I still have a positive OPK. Would you recommend another attempt or is 3 enough? :) Thank you!

[Pearl327]

Csa if you and DH are up for it then why not. It is not going to hurt and may even help

[DreamInBlue]

Five a lot of ladies, me included have had great results with fish oil and EPO. I also used preseed with my attempts but was having a lot more EWCM with the supps then normal for me 3-4 days of it instead of just 1-2 days

Hi all - I'm new here. I've searched for a while looking for what EPO stands for, and can't find it - can anyone help me out with that one? :happy:

[dloui128]

Hi all - I'm new here. I've searched for a while looking for what EPO stands for, and can't find it - can anyone help me out with that one? :happy:

Hi and welcome :)
EPO stands for evening primrose oil

[DreamInBlue]

Ah - thank you!

[ELP]

Welcome Dreamin :) Any other questions just feel free to ask:agree:

As its quite quiet here Ive just added a July into the title so to keep this thread going, save starting a new one!

[DreamInBlue]

Thanks! Just got AF today, hoping this is the month! :fx:

[Pearl327]

Good luck Dreaminginblue. I hope this is your month.

[Hokievol]

So I'm posting everywhere because I'm freaking out a little. Well, a lot if I'm being honest.
Swaying moved my ovulation a whole week. I'm glad I started using my OPKs early or I would have missed it. The problem is I just have one dose of Mucinex under my belt and haven't started the Pre-Seed yet. I had planned to do both all week in prep for ovulation on Saturday or Sunday, which is what it would have been normally. Do we wait until next month? I don't have super awesome CM naturally, so I really wanted to use those for awhile before we started. Crap! My fertility chart is up-to-date if you want to take a look.
Overall, moving my ovulation would be a good thing since I have a short LP IF (and that's a big IF) AF stays away for awhile.
What do I do??!!

[ELP]

Hoki, how long have you been swaying and what have you done?? I have had 2 succesful blue sways with little to zero cm:agree: First time I was able to use some robitusen on attempt time. second time nothing with zero noticable cm, plus a real quick one time jump and dump attempt. If your background sway is good I personally would go for it as you could be waiting forever to feel things are perfect.

[Hokievol]

I've been swaying since mid-May and I've been doing supplements, weight lifting, and the HE diet. I've noticed an improvement in my CM some with the supplements, so that's good. We decided to go ahead and try, like you said it will never be perfect. So we'll see what happens!!!

[Hokievol]

For an update.....I had two days of positive OPKs (Sunday and Monday). I tested again on Tuesday and was negative. I tested today (Thursday) and I'm positive again. I have never tested that early in my cycle before so I don't know if that typically happens for me or not. My charts always show late ovulation by temperature and OPK, so I'm guessing my body was just gearing up and didn't O earlier.
To make things stranger, I had ovulation pain yesterday and it's gone today. Soooo......Tests and pains say 4 days ago, tests and temperatures say now. I know we don't think timing sways, but I think we may not try again just to be sure since DTD post O supposedly makes girls.

[WashingtonPromise]

Hello everyone!!! I swayed in 2011 and had my little man last year. He's now one and we are thinking about TTCing again soon.

Hey there ELP!!! Your having another little boy, congratulations!

I hope more of the boy swayers come on over and make this a fast moving thread again.

[Five Beautiful Girls]

Hi Ladies, If when you sway & want to use egg whites ,do you use them with each attempt in your fertile window?

[ELP]

WP!! How is your little man!! Yes, we have succesful boy sway 2 cooking away and am completely convinced with the blue suggestions so best of luck with the new sway!!
Ive been a bitmia lately due to end of school hecticness but hopefully can be around more soon so we can get this blue section moving a little more:)

[ELP]

Hi Ladies, If when you sway & want to use egg whites ,do you use them with each attempt in your fertile window?

5bg did you go with the egg whites??

[Five Beautiful Girls]

ELP, No I haven't but I am thinking about it, Can I also ask if you could please explain about cut off, I don't understand, Do you BD every second day from AF to O ? Not really understanding all the post when reading them about cut off, Thank You for your reply.

[Five Beautiful Girls]

ELP, Also is there a reason why woman try to make there luteal phases longer? Is it important to have a certain amount of days from AF to O, I see a lot of woman take supplement to make it longer, What is the reason for that? Thanks again for your reply & about the egg whites, I haven't had any CM after my miss hap with fish oil, EPO & Flaxseed oil , then didn't O that month & last month it was early with no CM , thats why I was thinking about EW because I know with my last daughter that I got pregnant on O, so that makes me believe that my biggest issue is with my PH & CM.

[ELP]

ELP, No I haven't but I am thinking about it, Can I also ask if you could please explain about cut off, I don't understand, Do you BD every second day from AF to O ? Not really understanding all the post when reading them about cut off, Thank You for your reply.

Cut off means the last day you have unprotected sex before ovulation ie attempts:) So say you ov on the 10th of the month and your last attempt was on the 7th you would be going with a 3 day cut off! For a blue sway the optimium amount and health of sperm is 2 days intervals, so ladies can choose to try every 2 days for optimium so that the sperm are plentiful, plus you wont miss ovulation plus you will also have plenty of viable sperm living in the cervical crypts! Great for blue. (I think the prior is explained right:oops:, others are better than me at explaining the technical stuff lol).
But!! IMO cut off and sperm numbers are part of the cherry on the cake, Your body conditioning IMO sways 95% the other 5% of ewcm, sperm numbers, and other stuff just make up a small percentage, remember all the pink ladies who are minimising sperm numbers for their pink sways still getting boys plus myself with a very poor actual attempt with blue and Lola a long term member with DH infertility issues all with blues:) SO build your muscle and nutrition and just play with that other 5%;)

[ELP]

ELP, Also is there a reason why woman try to make there luteal phases longer? Is it important to have a certain amount of days from AF to O, I see a lot of woman take supplement to make it longer, What is the reason for that? Thanks again for your reply & about the egg whites, I haven't had any CM after my miss hap with fish oil, EPO & Flaxseed oil , then didn't O that month & last month it was early with no CM , thats why I was thinking about EW because I know with my last daughter that I got pregnant on O, so that makes me believe that my biggest issue is with my PH & CM.

I think again? to allow a fertilised egg time to implant and take hold the body needs to get to at least 10dpo so a luteal phase of 10 days + is ideal, some ladies with shorter luteal phases could well be fertilising but not being able to implant enough to have a succesful pregnancy, so I think that maybe its to do with an implantation issue. I know on one occasion whilst heavily breastfeeding I had a cycle where I knew (no test but goodness knows how many pregnancies under my belt:)) I had conceived but a 8/9? day luteal phase meant it couldnt have gone any further.

Sorry for being so fleeting lately but hopefully now the UK kids are on holidays I can get on more:)

Plus for those taht havent seen Huds has just announced a succesful blue sway!!!! Go Huds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/add-your-boy-sway/23700-swayed-boy-2013-we-having.html

[DreamInBlue]

but I think we may not try again just to be sure since DTD post O supposedly makes girls.

I've been trying to find more info on this - why would DTD after O sway girl?

[dloui128]

I've been trying to find more info on this - why would DTD after O sway girl?

timing doesn't sway, and its a slim chance you get pregnant with just one attempt at O+12

[Five Beautiful Girls]

Thank You so much ELP for explaining all of this to me I really appreciate it :happy:
I will be doing I first attempt next week:fingers:

[Five Beautiful Girls]

Hi Ladies ,It has taken a long time to retrain my brain about all of what I believe to be true when sway for blue & what you all are saying must be true because it is working , you are seeing the results Timing doesn't sway,boy swimmers aren't faster then girl swimmers, & that you don't need a high PH up as high as 9, that you don't need to just eat from one list of food it's over all nutrition that is important & that having dairy is good for a blue sway.
So much good information here on DG, THANK YOU to all you wonderful Ladies here on DG for sharing your knowledge, I for one really appreciate all the work you are doing here by helping other womens dreams come true.:happy:

[Ribenaberry]

Hi, i'm new in here, technically we are due to attempt in Aug, i am due to o on the 2nd, so we are going to have two attempts, cd14 and cd15 in the am (i tend to o on cd15) as well as cd 12 in the pm.

Im not doing so well on the diet, but intend to make a bigger effort this coming week, i am pretty sure we wont get pg the first month anyway, so i might have even longer to get myself straight :)

I cant wait to hear how everyone is doing with bfps or the dreaded af, i hope its quiet because people have graduated!!

Xxxxx

[ELP]

5BG:HH: Your a sweetie!! I think we can definitely say that the blue advice is working!! And I have great faith that it will continue to do so:) Best of luck with your attempt this week!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:welcome:Ribenaberry:) I think its def quiet lately lol! Hopefully we will get some more blue swayers joining us as the UK holidays have started, when do other countries have there main school holidays??

[Five Beautiful Girls]

Our Main School holidays here in Australia are at Christmas starting in December around the 10th I think(six weeks break), but we just had school holidays three weeks (two weeks break) ago here in Queensland each state has different dates for there holidays by a week or two.


:DD::DD::DD::DD::DD: :fx::DS:

[Ribenaberry]

Well, i had potato cakes for breakfast, spaghetti carbonara for lunch, but appear to be eating crisps for tea!! Not a good day :(

And tomorrow i am doing a car boot in the am so will prob not get breakfast either, although i might sneak a bacon butty if i am close enough to a van lol!

We were supposed to be having chicken and bacon pasta bake but neither of us are hungry. Is there enough protein in egg yolk? I might boil an egg with some toast, but i dont eat the white?

Arghhhh, this is why dont feel ready! But i am still eating far better than i ever have so thats got to be good right?

Xxx

[Five Beautiful Girls]

Going with preseed not egg whites :fingers:

[BabyLee]

I found you all!!!!!! Woohooo!

[dloui128]

I found you all!!!!!! Woohooo!

Welcome back :)

[user2404]

Hi ladies
have been following your lovely thread as thinking of swaying naturally towards blue after few unsuccessful ivf attempts.

I have read somewhere about douching with baking soda for blue did any of successful swayers of blue used it and if yes then can you let me know how

xxx

[dloui128]

Hi ladies
have been following your lovely thread as thinking of swaying naturally towards blue after few unsuccessful ivf attempts.

I have read somewhere about douching with baking soda for blue did any of successful swayers of blue used it and if yes then can you let me know how

xxx

Welcome :) some women have used it and got opposites a few have used it and did get their desired gender. I tried it and didn't get a BFP and it gave me a burning sensation. The first month I didn't use it I got my BFP and it was a boy :). To be honest I don't think it really sways and I would use Preseed instead. If you do plan on using it you would dip your finger in baking soda and insert it, but do not his your cervix because it will really burn. Some ladies were doing it once or twice a day the week of ovulation and some just did it on O day, it's totally up to you. I HIGHLY recommend Preseed though, a lot of us blue swayers have had great results using it with the HE diet and weight training.

[ELP]

Just made a new thread for August ladies, hope to see you all there :)

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-boy/32735-%2A%2A-august-blue-berries-swaying-chat-thread-%2A%2A.html

[ELP]

As Dloui says 2404, I think most people ar emoving away from the douche PH thing and having great! success in the blue sway area:)

[user2404]

Welcome :) some women have used it and got opposites a few have used it and did get their desired gender. I tried it and didn't get a BFP and it gave me a burning sensation. The first month I didn't use it I got my BFP and it was a boy :). To be honest I don't think it really sways and I would use Preseed instead. If you do plan on using it you would dip your finger in baking soda and insert it, but do not his your cervix because it will really burn. Some ladies were doing it once or twice a day the week of ovulation and some just did it on O day, it's totally up to you. I HIGHLY recommend Preseed though, a lot of us blue swayers have had great results using it with the HE diet and weight training.

thanks for the lovely info. With preseed do you use it alternate day or just on ovulation day. I usually have my ovulation on day16 (came to know this using OPK) but my ovulation lasts really for a very less time say as it states negative the same day if checked twice. What wiuld yiu successful swayers recommend. have already started my low carb and high protein would that help?? Please suggest.

[dloui128]

thanks for the lovely info. With preseed do you use it alternate day or just on ovulation day. I usually have my ovulation on day16 (came to know this using OPK) but my ovulation lasts really for a very less time say as it states negative the same day if checked twice. What wiuld yiu successful swayers recommend. have already started my low carb and high protein would that help?? Please suggest.

you would use preseed at every BD attempt. And there is no need to do low carb, you can eat any kind of carb with your protein.

[lilram]

dloui128 - hi.. I am swaying blue and this was my first month of TTC. I'm 12dpo and on testing had a bfn.

Do I still have any hope
Also can you please put up ur successful blue sway details in case I'm out this month..

Thanks a ton

[dloui128]

dloui128 - hi.. I am swaying blue and this was my first month of TTC. I'm 12dpo and on testing had a bfn.

Do I still have any hope
Also can you please put up ur successful blue sway details in case I'm out this month..

Thanks a ton

Hi Hun, all the boy sways are in the swayed for a boy section