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balt0038
June 19th, 2013, 12:18 AM
Hello,
My dh agreed to three cycles ttc a dd, and we are on our last shot (cd 3 right now). I want to maximize changes of conceiving while not diminishing chances for a dd. Here's my plan for this month-if you have any suggestions/tips I would be very grateful for any advice.
Diet: continue low-nutrient, low sodium & potassium, no red meat diet. Eating lots of white rice, green beans, low sugar craisins, yogurt with low sodium no added nutrient granola, plain rice cakes with strawberry jam.
Timing: went for a cut-off the last two months, this time planning to dtd the four days around suspected O. Dh cannot do more than 5 bd days in a row and I am worrying that the fifth time isn't yielding healthy swimmers since it was so hard to finish the job on the fifth night. I don't want to do long abstain since that is what gave us ds 1 and ds 2.
pH and cm: planning to use Rephresh to lower pH. On our first try only had vinegar douche available and it didn't do the job well enough; last month did vinegar, lime and Rephresh and I worry it did the job too well (esp. the lime, that really lowered pH fast). Also, planning to take Sudafed around the clock around O to eliminate EWCM.
Other things: using Sylk lube each attempt, going outside a lot, limited computer time and nail polish for ions, planning to wait a few minutes before jump and dump to give them a chance. And a girlie sleeper under the bed, why not? :)
Thanks in advance for your suggestions and advice. I can't imagine living the rest of my life without a dd, it feels like she is missing from my life. Hoping this last shot is the one!
balt0038
June 19th, 2013, 12:22 AM
Oh, forgot to mentions supps: taking calcium citrate, mag. citrate, cranberry and folic acid. Thought I'd reduce cranberry for this cycle and add B vitamins to help lengthen luteal phase.
3blue?pink
June 19th, 2013, 02:15 AM
I have just found out I am having a girl and I am totally in shock I truly believe that the diet, excercise, lowering my ph ie. jellies and the 1 attempt after abstaining is what high contributed to my precious pink bundle.
3blue?pink
June 19th, 2013, 02:16 AM
Ps. I conceived 1st month
atomic sagebrush
June 19th, 2013, 11:26 AM
Wow. These are the types of posts that keep me up at night. Just giving it to you straight here, you may as well have been taking birth control pills. Anyone who has 3 months to conceive a daughter, should not be doing most of those sway tactics. If you can't get pg, you have no chance at your DG.
You may not like this advice but here goes.
Drop cutoff and frequency entirely. Have DH release on his own every 2-4 days and then have ONE attempt the day of positive OPK (day before ovulation). To go from a cutoff which has poor odds of conception, esp. with swaying involved, to DTD 5 times around O (that's waht I have BLUE swayers do!) I feel is a huge step in the wrong direction. Timing doesn't sway, but doing just one attempt seems to, and your best odds of conception with one attempt are going to be on day of pos OPK.
Drop jelly (No RepHresh, no Acijel, no Sylk) drop douche, drop Sudafed. If you absolutely MUST use Sudafed, take ONE 3 hours before attempt (I do not believe Sudafed to be safe and I don't want anyone to take it but if a person has to, that's the safest way). The GOOD studies done by real scientists and not people selling stuff, show that with any pH below 6, there were NO motile sperm in the cervix. Not X, not Y. NO sperm love low pH, it KILLS them.
Drop cranberry all together. NEVER EVER take cranberry (or aspirin) with Sudafed, esp. if you are taking Sudafed for several doses in a row. You can give yourself bleeding in your brain that way.
B Vitamins probably sway BLUE and there is not enough time for them to help your LP, it takes several weeks for the B Vitamins to help with LP (and they don't work except for a small minority of people) It is no surprise to me that your LP has gotten short with the diet you are eating. You need some fat in your diet desperately, without fat you can't make progesterone or estrogen and will have a short LP and may stop ovulating. Please add in one full fat yogurt a day and 4 eggs a week for the next 2 weeks to be sure you will have a little cholesterol that your body can make progesterone with.
atomic sagebrush
June 19th, 2013, 11:29 AM
Ps. I conceived 1st month
It is the lucky exception that can conceive 1st month while doing everything. Most people can't, unfortunately. So we have to be sure that people, when they drop things/add things, drop/add the RIGHT things! :)
Emily
June 19th, 2013, 12:27 PM
Why 3 months? Could you convince DH to keep at it so to speak a little longer? 6 months is the average time to conceive with NO sway tactics. Not sure how scientific that figure is but have seen it a lot:)
balt0038
June 19th, 2013, 11:29 PM
Thank you very much for the responses. Emily, my dh and I both wanted 3 Lo's and he wanted to stick with that number despite only having ds's, while I was hoping to try for #4 for one more chance at a dd. He agreed to try for 3 cycles at my request. We have conceived 4 times (1 a miscarriage) all on our first attempt, so I naively thought three months should do the job even with swaying). I could possibly convince him to try one extra cycle, but with our 3 lo's getting older and busier with sports/ activities it would be especially hard for us to have a newborn in the summer. Also, we have a trip to Florida already planned for Oct. next year and we would want the baby to be at least 6 months old in order to feel comfortable leaving him/her with grandma for that week.
Atomic, thank you for the candid advice. Hard to read, but I think I needed to hear it from you to believe it. I should have mentioned that the granola I eat with my yogurt has quite a bit of fat (9 grams per serving, and I eat one serving per day w/ yogurt). It actually makes me nervous to eat it because of that but I'm so hungry without it. Current weight is 108 so I don't have a lot to lose. I also include Swiss cheese in my diet a few times per week, plus I put non-salted butter on my white rice. I didn't want to bore everyone with all my specifics but I guess those things should have been included.
I will definitely take your bd advice...I knew we needed to tweak our system but didn't know how. I will also take your advice on the jellies/douches...besides MAYBE doing Rephresh (one time, perhaps that morning of + OPK and we wouldn't dtd until night)?? My pH after bd is really high (7.5+) so that makes me nervous. And I do feel strongly that my normally copious amounts of CM has contributed greatly to my all-boy status, so I'm also hesitant to drop Sudafed entirely. But I definitely won't take it with cranberry and will reduce my dose. Perhaps if I do Sudafed I can feel okay in dropping RepHresh as well, knowing it will take away my EWCM and the high pH that goes along with it? Can/should dh continue to take cranberry? I usually give him 7,000 fe in the days leading up to/through our attempts.
Thanks again for your input. It will be hard not to stress about this for the next few weeks! It's really helpful to have this community.
atomic sagebrush
June 21st, 2013, 01:27 PM
apologies for spelling, I am holidng a baby and can barely type LOL
Re the fat - my absolute lowest recommendation for fat intake is 25 g and most people eat quite a bit more than that, up to 60 g of fat. I really think that you need more fat or you're going to stop oing all together. you know best how much you're getting, but if you're 108 lbs and yoru LP is short, that indicates to me that you aren't getting enough fat.
If you absolutely must do Rephresh, I woudl do it no sooner than 24 hours before. 12 hours is pushing it, we've had many people who couldn't get pg with Reprhesh 8-12 hours before.
can you switch sudafed for antihistamine like cetirizine, diphenhydramine, or both if need be?? One sudafed is fine, but for you to be taking it days at a time, that is exactly the scenario that caused strokes in young women - the max dose, for days at aa time, while taking a blood thinner (cranberry is a blood thinner.) I just don't think it's safe for you.
pH of 7.5 after bd is not high pH. that is normal pH. both x and y sperm thrive in ph of the 7's and the sperm has moved onto greener pastures within 15-30 min. of intercourse anyway. those greener pastures ALWAYS have pH in the 7's regardless of what you read on IG - your body grows special cells at ovulation in your fallopian tubes, that do nothign but make alkaline fluids to keep sperm alive. It is irrelevant what your pH is after intercourse, I know it's hard to believe but it doesn't matter. I got a boy with pH of 4.5 that never went up for weeks before and so little CM that I didn't evne know I ovuated.
If I had one cycle to get pg I would have DH drop the cranberry. But you have to be able to live with your sway, because it's not MY sway LOL. Only you know where you are on the GD continuum and how much you'd be haunted by dropping x,y,z and getting an opposite. :) Good luck.
fish2012
June 23rd, 2013, 10:11 AM
Hey hun
I Think I stopped myself o-ing some months with too low fat do you track your food on my fitness pal or something? could be a good shout
In terms of conditions in the v I think low qty of cm is the only thing to worry about cant imagine you have much on that diet
First months is lucky up to 6 while swaying seems to be the norm even thou lots of us conceived ds easily
I'm interested how dh will know if your ttc if you don't tell him, I was obsessive about the age gap it's twice as big as I wanted like you I thought 3 months would do it ;-) however I do think don't stress about those factors if you get your dd you won't care
Good luck try not to stress xxx
balt0038
June 28th, 2013, 12:37 AM
Thanks again! I am making a point to get more fat after checking my weight again (don't own a scale so I don't check very often) and finding I lost two more pounds. It's not easy to eat fat while staying on the LE diet! I also bought Zyrtec and will take that instead, maybe Sudafed only one time if I see a lot of EWCM and get freaked out, lol. I'll also make sure to try and do the Rephresh a full day before.
I just found the perfect girl name and now I'm even more excited at the idea of this attempt working out in my favor. I would be disappointed if I had a fourth DS since this without question our last LO, but would not be devastated like I was about DS 3 initially. If we knew LO #4 would be a boy beforehand we would not ttc though-it's all about the chance for a dd. But I know it would be much worse to not try and spend the rest of my life wondering than to try and end up with DS #4. Please cross your fingers for pink dust for my last chance!!
Elico
June 28th, 2013, 01:28 AM
diet coke! i loved the stuff and have 2 DD. im talking 3x cans per day. fake sugar in coffee and tea , yoghurts ect . Anything with 99.9 % fat free I lived on. and dtd every day. i had a high sugar , low protein and low carb diet and was reasonably physically active. I still think i may have conceived really close to O day with both girls so i dont think timing is that bigger deal. good luck! I know how you feel except i have girls and REALLY want this bub to be a boy! I think diet is the key to success!
atomic sagebrush
June 28th, 2013, 12:08 PM
1 T butter - 11 g fat
1 T mayo - 11 g fat
1 T veg oil - 14 g fat
2 T salad dressing - 12-15 g fat depending on variety
1 T is a MINISCULE amount and 2T salad dressing is hardly anything - it's actually easy to get, you just have to move past thinking of fat as this enemy that can't be eaten. Saute some veg in butter or oil, have a salad with a little dressing, a veg sandwich with some mayo and even cheese - you can do this! :)
Sending you all the pink dust I have (it's not a lot, but it's very sweet pink dust since it brought me my daughter!)
balt0038
July 2nd, 2013, 12:41 AM
Well I'll take all the pink dust I can get, thank you! Just O'd this morning, a bit later than my CBE monitor said so it ended up being a 2 day c/o instead of 1 or 1.5 day as I'd planned. We used just enough Sylk to lube and I didn't do any pH testing, douches or jellies afterwards...that wasn't easy for me but I just kept remembering what you wrote about pH below 6. I did Zyrtec once per day and also one dose of Sudafed when I had a larger amount of CM (wasn't EWCM, but more watery). I'm now just hoping it was enough to get pg but feeling worried about my short LP. Would you recommend Vitex or progesterone cream for my 2ww? Thanks!
porcelina
July 2nd, 2013, 10:09 AM
Hi, just following your story here -- wow, the pressure is on! Maybe DH will be more open to trying again if things don't happen. You said you would NOT TTC if it were to be a boy, so to me, that means you want to do all the swaying you can, even if it takes longer. Maybe you can start up again later on, if it doesn't work out this time. It isn't all that bad traveling with a newborn, right?? ;)
From what I have read, Vitex is rarely used from O to AF, and definitely not while TTC, as it can possibly be harmful to pregnancy. Have you had losses in the past (I think you said one but have not gone back to check)? The progesterone cream might be good if you have, but if not, there is no reason to believe you have low progesterone. I say call it gold and keep your fingers crossed for a successful cycle! We just ended up with a 2 day cutoff and an O+12 attempt this month because my OPK instructions were wrong. So, here's to hoping those swimmers survive with Rephresh!
BabyGirl4Me
July 2nd, 2013, 11:26 AM
First off kudos to you for trying a sway under such tight circumstances. You know, the vast majority of couples out there (even when doing things to maximize their chances of just getting pg will not get pg during any given month of trying. It takes a lot of couples several months just to conceive, and of course there's an element of luck to it. DH and I have had one hit wonders both times but most of my girlfriends actively tried for months and months and months before they got their BFPs.
What happens if you don't conceive this month? Will DH just not agree to trying anymore? How does he really feel about a 4th child?
If you're serious about having a 4th child and really want to maximize your chances for pink (and take this for what it is, free, unsolicited advice from a chick on the internet) ;) if I were you, I'd take the time to do a heavier sway with LE diet for several weeks, 1 attempt at getting pg at +OPK and 60+ minutes of cardio style exercise at least 6 days a week. If DH will agree to taking Licorice Root and his physical health is good/he's young/his body can handle it, I'd use that too. This seems to be one of the most straightforward ways of swaying that seems to be yielding a high number of successful sways.
I really *DO* think that we're on to something here at Gender Dreaming with the LE + intense exercise combo with the high number of successes following that program. I think as time goes on, the success rate of sways with those tactics is only going to keep climbing. I'd love to see you as another success story here.
Based on your initial post, when you said you can't imagine life without a DD, it sounds like that's a life goal that is very important to you and a stronger sway attempt may be what you need because you feel that way. If the next several months are going to be super busy, maybe you'll want to put off TTC for another year or so? In the northern hemisphere, statistically, April produces the highest ratio of girl to boy pregnancies. Maybe you'll want to TTC around March-May of 2015 year to help you and take the pressure off during the busy months coming up for you? Can you allow yourself to wait that long to TTC?
Anyway, that's just my 2 cents. Feel free to not follow any of that advice, and regardless of whatever you decide to do best of luck in your journey to ttc, and if there's any pink dust left in me after my sway, please take it and enjoy. :)
balt0038
July 3rd, 2013, 12:37 AM
Thank you for responding and helping me sort through all this. Only my BFF knows we're even TTC, let along swaying, so this outlet for talking it over is so helpful.
My DH is a wonderful man and, though he would preferably stick with 3, he is willing to give #4 a try while being supportive and open to the idea of LO #4 even if it's not what he would have chosen if it was his decision alone. He's a team player kind of guy, would love to have a dd himself and would love even more to see the dream come true for me. At the same time, he's very practical and realistic about the added time/energy/financial commitment of another LO, which honestly gives both of us doubts. Life is certainly easier and less demanding when the kids get a little older and more independent, but easier isn't always better. I was the one who originally brokered the three months of ttc deal since we are on the same page about when a newborn could best fit into our family's life.
However, now I'm considering heading to my doctor to check on my progesterone level. I have yet to have a temp spike even though I'm all but certain (based on CBE monitor, CM and cramping) that I O'ed Monday morning. I've also been having 10 day lp's or 11 days max, one time.
After talking over all this with him tonight, DH seemed open to the possibility of trying one or two more months especially if we do find that progesterone (or some other issue) has hindered our chances.
If it doesn't happen this year I don't foresee either of us really on board with such a large age gap, though I definitely see your logic in this suggestion, Babygirl4me. We became pregnant with DS 1 quite unexpectedly and at way younger ages than we would have ever chosen, so we were doing the parenting thing when everyone around us had their time to be young and free. I know we'd both like to try and recoup some of that time to travel/explore our own interests and hobbies once our ds's grow up and we're still relatively young, so I don't think we'd want to be starting over much later than now (at ages 29 and 30, ds's are currently 9,6 and 3). I did mention once the possibility of ttc again in the spring of 2014 for an early 2015 baby but I'd only give that a 5 percent chance of happening based on our shared vision for our future.
I did add intense exercise into my routine through O for this cycle based on what I read here, though it's also a source of worry because there were a few days where it just didn't work to fit it in. But it was definitely a big change for my body to be ramping cardio up so much, even if I didn't hit the ideal recommendation for swaying. I'll also look into licorice root for dh.
Good luck to both of you on your sways, and thanks again for the helpful feedback.
porcelina
July 3rd, 2013, 11:09 AM
Glad to hear the intense pressure is off and that you guys will take it more slowly. Also good to hear you are both on the same page for the most part about TTC and your future life plans. Wow, I didn't even get started trying to have a family until I was 29. But I definitely enjoyed those carefree 20s! ;)
Progesterone is definitely an issue for me, but for miscarriage, not pregnancy. It is always good to get the opinion of a professional, though. I hope you get some answers.
I have not embarked upon the licorice root for DH. I don't know his actual testosterone levels, but I truly think they are low, based on a lot of things (sex drive, not so competitive, very sensitive and cries at the drop of a hat). I am a little reluctant to add that into our sway, but maybe will give a shot next cycle just in case.
atomic sagebrush
July 4th, 2013, 03:59 PM
No, I don't recommend anything during the 2WW with the exception of progesterone supplementation prescribed by a doctor.
atomic sagebrush
July 4th, 2013, 04:01 PM
would love an update on how you are - I can't always check back as often as I would like but that doesn't ever mean I'm not interested in how you ladies are doing! :)
balt0038
July 8th, 2013, 04:07 PM
Thank you!! I'm hanging in there waiting to test on Thurs or Fri. If this cycle doesn't work I will make an appt. to discuss progesterone and lp with my doctor. I will update at the end of the week with a bfn or bfp. Crossing my fingers for a healthy March girlie!
balt0038
July 12th, 2013, 03:36 PM
Update: BFN this morning. However, my temp also spiked this morning so I haven't lost all hope. According to my CBE monitor I'm 11 dpo today but according to bbt I'm only 10 dpo. I'll test again Sunday if af hasn't shown.
fivebabies
July 12th, 2013, 06:18 PM
Just read through this thread....I see you no longer need advice as you are at the testing stage but just wanted to say good luck!!
balt0038
July 14th, 2013, 12:22 AM
Thank you, Fivebabies! Unfortunately, yesterday's BFN turned into today's AF. But luckily my Dh is on board with trying two more months because my LP is always only 10 days so we basically don't even have a chance for the egg to implant properly even if we do conceive. I will be making an appointment with the doctor and hopefully get some progesterone cream to give us a chance at least. So any swaying tips are very much welcome! I will be doing the LE, vegetarian diet, one bd attempt at positive Opk. Will take Zyrtec around O. Any other suggestions, again, are welcome!
Dreamofpink
July 14th, 2013, 08:41 AM
Thank you, Fivebabies! Unfortunately, yesterday's BFN turned into today's AF. But luckily my Dh is on board with trying two more months because my LP is always only 10 days so we basically don't even have a chance for the egg to implant properly even if we do conceive. I will be making an appointment with the doctor and hopefully get some progesterone cream to give us a chance at least. So any swaying tips are very much welcome! I will be doing the LE, vegetarian diet, one bd attempt at positive Opk. Will take Zyrtec around O. Any other suggestions, again, are welcome!
You might want to consider asking your gp for some Clomid. It's brilliant for a pink sway and will help lengthen your LP too. Just don't tell your gp it's to help a pink sway ;)
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atomic sagebrush
July 14th, 2013, 03:35 PM
I agree, Clomid is way way better for a short LP than the progesterone.
balt0038
July 14th, 2013, 10:42 PM
Okay, I will see what he says. I don't want to appear like I'm pushing for one thing or the other, and I definitely won't be mentioning anything about swaying! :) Really, I think the things I'm now doing to sway are things that many people do just normally anyways (eat vegetarian, lower calorie diets, exercise, take Zyrtec). I've cut out all things people wouldn't normally do/take (jellies/pH testing and cranberry).
Why is Clomid supposed to be helpful for girls? I did see that it increased the risk of multiple birth, which makes me quite nervous. The idea of going from 3 to 4 kids sounds hard enough!!
Prepsina2014
July 15th, 2013, 02:55 AM
balt0038 - hope it's ok to ask a Q in your thread :)
My cycle is 22-24 days with positive OPK on day 11, 12 or 13. Is that a a problem? Is that a short LP? I don't think it was any different when I conceived our son...
atomic sagebrush
July 15th, 2013, 11:41 AM
Yes def. don't push for Clomid, that's a surefire way to not get it. But some people are scared of Clomid and push their docs to give them prog support, even tho the data indicates Clomid is far far better for correcting luteal phase issues and prog support may not even work.
We don't totally know why Clomid sways pink but it has been shown to in several studies. I have a big long essay about the possibilities here http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/1191-clomid.html
atomic sagebrush
July 15th, 2013, 11:42 AM
balt0038 - hope it's ok to ask a Q in your thread :)
My cycle is 22-24 days with positive OPK on day 11, 12 or 13. Is that a a problem? Is that a short LP? I don't think it was any different when I conceived our son...
It is on the short side but it's not too short to conceive. 10-12 day LP is totally possible to conceive. If it drops below that, or anyone who has a borderline LP particularly of 10 days and has had repeated chemicals, then you should address it medically.
balt0038
July 19th, 2013, 12:13 AM
update after my doctor appt: he apparently sees no problem with my 10 day lp and thinks my regular cycles are a great sign for a future pregnancy. He said I could sure buy myself some progesterone cream if it makes me feel better, but he wouldn't recommend it as an effective option. He said I should bd every other day between cd 10 and 20 as my best shot for conception and feels confident I'll be pregnant within 6 months by doing this. But the sad thing is, I only have two more months max and I definitely want to err on the side of not doing boy-friendly things.
I'm sure that pretty much everyone who is ttc (and not swaying) is pretty much doing something close to bd every other day around fertile period, and so many end up dd's with this method. But pretty much everything you read about swaying for a dd doesn't recommend this, they talk about the one try at positive OPK, the O+12, the cut-off or the fr schedule.
All this makes me wonder if we should just bd on the schedule of pretty much every normal couple ttc and hope that LE/vegetarian diet, low CM through Zyrtec and exercise can carry us through to a dd. Thoughts, or reasoning why anyone might think this bd schedule sounds like a bad idea? From what I can read, it seems mysterious to all that the 1 bd ups the chance of a dd, I didn't see any conclusive reasoning for why this is the best choice. Thank you to everyone who is offering their two cents and/or information they have learned!
fivebabies
July 19th, 2013, 01:57 AM
I agree to just dtd every other day. I truly believe what worked for me was the Crystal Light. Its a very quick way to lower your ph. I drank double strength CL through out the day for the 3 days leading up to O and then continued for 3 days after. Give it a shot! :) GL!!
atomic sagebrush
July 20th, 2013, 10:37 AM
The reasoning behind the one attempt is that lower sperm numbers communicate something to your body that then in turn sways pink. I have my thinking about why this is - possibly there is some communication between sperm that causes more X than Y to capacitate, perhaps something to do with the semen itself (raising pH??) and/or some advantage at the egg where it takes several sperm to penetrate the eggshell - maybe if there are fewer sperm it gives X an advantage over Y. We don't know. The stats have shown one attempt is better for pink than 3 attempts. The reason I advise pos OPK is NOT because that day itself sways. It's because it's the best odds of conception with swaying.
That having been said, if you can't get pg you have no chance at a DD and I think frequency BARELY sways. So please feel free to go ahead and do whatever pattern you feel is best.
Also, do know that the Zyrtec also lowers odds of conception significantly so you may want to drop that.
atomic sagebrush
July 20th, 2013, 10:38 AM
I do not recommend drinking more than the 2-3 servings of Crystal Light approved by the FDA as safe during pregnancy.
On IG there are people drinking a ghastly amount of Crystal Light and still getting opposites. IT's no magic bullet, and so I believe it is best to stick with a safer intake. :)
balt0038
July 23rd, 2013, 12:20 AM
I do think about the increased pH with having multiple attempts as well. And, based on a lengthy conversation with my dh tonight, I think I may stick with your suggested one attempt at +opk after all, even with the Zyrtec. Dh is being very understanding about my strong desire for a dd, and he would like one too, but he has many misgivings (that I also share) about having 4 lo's.
In the end we agreed to continue ttc for this month and next, but I think it's fairest for him to continue a reasonable strict girl sway...while still allowing for the possibility of pregnancy of course, unlike my first two attempts where I over-did it and, like you said, was essentially on birth control with all my different pH-lowering strategies.
So here's my plan:
-long workouts through O
-skip breakfast
-vegetarian/fairly LE diet (eating granola, yogurt with aspartame, crystal lite, swiss cheese, rice crackers and rice cakes, eggs (mostly whites, some yolks), rice pasta or rice with parmesan and Mrs. Dash, strawberries, apples, iceberg lettuce salads and non-nutritious sweets as pretty much 100 percent of my diet).
-Zyrtec around O
-small amount of Sylk as lube (unless you feel this is very detrimental to conceive, but it seems to be a fairly common part of a girl attempt)
-one bd on night of +opk
Hopefully this sway will balance our strong desire for a dd with a viable chance of pregnancy (since I've cut out cranberry, sudafed, lime or vinegar douche and rephresh).
If we do not conceive by the end of next month I honestly can say I will have closure that we tried our best and it wasn't meant to be, and I would prefer this outcome over having a fourth ds (though that fourth ds would be loved to pieces if he comes to be, despite the disappointment of missing out on a dd experience).
Any suggestions or advice, of course, are very welcome and appreciated. I'm guessing O is six days away at most. Feeling nervous and hopeful.
atomic sagebrush
July 23rd, 2013, 08:48 AM
Well, if I had my way you would give it at least 3-4 more months, a month with Sylk/Zyrtec and one attempt, a month without Sylk/Zyrtec and one attempt, then a month without Sylk/Zyrtec and SMEP, then a month with SMEP and Preseed. But it's not my sway and so I am hoping for a pink BFP this month!!!
balt0038
July 23rd, 2013, 01:33 PM
What is SMEP?
atomic sagebrush
July 26th, 2013, 10:52 AM
Sperm Meets Egg Plan (http://www.pregnancyloss.info/sperm_meets_egg_plan.htm)
balt0038
August 7th, 2013, 01:58 AM
Update: I got a bfp yesterday morning (8/6)!! Edd is 4/20/14. My hands were shaking for a solid hour after seeing the test. My sway went according to plan besides the long cardio session part, on which I failed abysmally. I ran once in my fertile period, then just gave up on it completely once it didn't happen for the next two days. Hoping so much that my sway was enough. Thanks everyone for all the help! I will update when I know the gender but it might be awhile...I want to be team green but dh wants to know. We considered compromising and finding out at my 32 week ultrasound. I'm trying hard to assume boy until proven otherwise and not to get my hopes up.
BeadinMom
August 7th, 2013, 02:02 AM
Best of luck to you!!!! :)
atomic sagebrush
August 8th, 2013, 12:20 PM
Huge congrats!!
2bnaday
August 9th, 2013, 09:43 PM
So wonderful - congratulations!!
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