Complete blue swaying spreadsheet

[rainbowflower]

Firstly, can anyone who gets their sway results from now on please add your sway to the spreadsheet using the following link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1X176Ro0rH_N_CNBcU-zC3VVJocMpBE-fFefXEaVTooA/viewform
even if you get an opposite, it can help those planning future sways by making the statistics more accurate.

The results are here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AuwCV-IDm3wodGRDUkRVYnN2a1lQSjFDT2wtZVl0YXc#gid=0

The first sheet lists all the sways added. At the top are the results for those who tried each basic aspect of swaying (the yes/no answers). This includes:

supplements
douches
cold showers
old wives tales
etc.



The second sheet has the more complex statistics for:

diet
number of attempts
timing
length of abstain
length of time on diet
type of exercise done

Note: some of these results have VERY small sample sizes at the moment which may skew the results a bit. As time goes on and more results are added it should become more accurate

Obviously because we are all doing so many factors for a sway it's hard to know whether it's the individual one that is swaying or because it's a mixture of things, but it's an interesting guide.

We have already added all the sways with results I found in the "Add your sway" section. So if you have already swayed and had results you will need to check that you aren't already in there. Thank you to my lovely volunteers for helping to populate it wit

Note: The statistics do not automatically update when new sways are added so I need to manually do this. It's a limitation of the tool unfortunately.





Current statistics (update 24th Sept 2015):


Total sways: 92
Total blue: 65
Success %: 70.65% success

PERSONALISED PLAN
Total sways: 16
Total success: 12
Success %: 75% success

EVENING PRIMROSE OIL
Total sways: 26
Total success: 18
Success %: 69.23% success

MULTIVITAMINS
Total sways: 47
Total success: 38
Success %: 80.85% success

ROBITUSSIN/GUAFANESIN
Total sways: 42
Total success: 31
Success %: 73.81% success

OMEGA 3
Total sways: 67
Total success: 51
Success %: 76.12% success

L'ARGININE
Total sways: 10
Total success: 4
Success %: 40% success

COQ10
Total sways: 16
Total success: 12
Success %: 75% success

FALSE UNICORN ROOT
Total sways: 2
Total success: 2
Success %: 100% success

ROYAL JELLY/BEE POLLEN
Total sways: 13
Total success: 11
Success %: 84.62% success

TRIBULUS TERRESTRIS
Total sways: 2
Total success: 2
Success %: 100% success

GRAPE SEED EXTRACT
Total sways: 0
Total success: 0
Success %: N/A% success

WHEAT GRASS
Total sways: 13
Total success: 12
Success %: 92.31% success

POTASSIUM+SODIUM
Total sways: 11
Total success: 7
Success %: 63.64% success

L'ARGININE for DH
Total sways: 27
Total success: 17
Success %: 62.96% success

OMEGA3 for DH
Total sways: 37
Total success: 26
Success %: 70.27% success

COQ10 for DH
Total sways: 17
Total success: 12
Success %: 70.59% success

L'CARNITINE for DH
Total sways: 12
Total success: 6
Success %: 50% success

LUBE
Total sways: 44
Total success: 33
Success %: 75% success

DOUCHE
Total sways: 22
Total success: 17
Success %: 77.27% success

IONS
Total sways: 38
Total success: 27
Success %: 71.05% success

FULL MOON
Total sways: 16
Total success: 12
Success %: 75% success

OLD WIVES TALES
Total sways: 27
Total success: 15
Success %: 55.56% success

DH COLD SHOWERS
Total sways: 12
Total success: 8
Success %: 66.67% success

FIRST CYCLE AFTER MC
Total sways: 4
Total success: 0
Success %: 0% success

VITAMIN D
Total sways: 18
Total success: 14
Success %: 77.78% success

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DIET
(note from atomic - the data on this is misleading because we did not track our results the first 2 years of the site. We have always had much better results with HE Diet and the first 2 years of the site, IG Diet was running 40% success rate while HE Diet has stayed consistently 75-80% success rates. Also note the small sample size. Since those people did not fill out spreadsheets, their data is not included in this diet info) I posted the diet info that I tracked the first 14 months of the site on Page 9 for anyone who would like to double check this claim.

IG
- Total sways 13
- Total success 11
- Success % 84.62% success
HE
- Total sways 64
- Total success 48
- Success % 75% success
FGD
- Total sways 0
- Total success 0
- Success % 0% success
Mix
- Total sways 8
- Total success 4
- Success % 50% success
Other
- Total sways 4
- Total success 1
- Success % 25% success
None
- Total sways 3
- Total success 1
- Success % 33.33% success

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TIMING
Attempted O+12
- Total sways 3
- Total success 2
- Success % 66.67% success
Through OV/pos OPK
- Total sways 53
- Total success 40
- Success % 75.47% success
2-3 day cut off
- Total sways 7
- Total success 4
- Success % 57.14% success
4+ day cut off
- Total sways 0
- Total success 0
- Success % 0% success

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NO. OF ATTEMPTS
1
- Total sways 20
- Total success 14
- Success % 70% success
2
- Total sways 17
- Total success 10
- Success % 58.82% success
3
- Total sways 25
- Total success 19
- Success % 76% success
4+
- Total sways 0
- Total success 0
- Success % 0% success

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DIET WEEKS
1-4 weeks
- Total sways 4
- Total success 3
- Success % 75% success
5-8 weeks
- Total sways 20
- Total success 15
- Success % 75% success
9-12 weeks
- Total sways 11
- Total success 6
- Success % 54.55% success
13-16 weeks
- Total sways 10
- Total success 7
- Success % 70% success
17-20 weeks
- Total sways 5
- Total success 5
- Success % 100% success
21-24 weeks
- Total sways 6
- Total success 5
- Success % 83.33% success
25+ weeks
- Total sways 10
- Total success 5
- Success % 50% success

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LENGTH ABSTAIN
0 days
- Total sways 14
- Total success 11
- Success % 78.57% success
1 days
- Total sways 5
- Total success 3
- Success % 60% success
2 days
- Total sways 19
- Total success 13
- Success % 68.42% success
3 days
- Total sways 5
- Total success 4
- Success % 80% success
4 days
- Total sways 15
- Total success 13
- Success % 86.67% success
5+ days
- Total sways 6
- Total success 2
- Success % 33.33% success

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EXERCISE
None
- Total sways 15
- Total success 9
- Success % 60% success
Cardio only
- Total sways 2
- Total success 1
- Success % 50% success
Weights only
- Total sways 18
- Total success 13
- Success % 72.22% success
Cardio + weights
- Total sways 11
- Total success 10
- Success % 90.91% success

[Cinss]

Just added mine

[Ribenaberry]

Could you update it, ive just finished my list :)

Xxx

[rainbowflower]

thank you for doing that, just updated it!

[ELP]

This is super helpful Rainbow, thankyou:)

Does the % update itself, only the vit D isnt as showing accurate atm?

[rainbowflower]

This is super helpful Rainbow, thankyou:)

Does the % update itself, only the vit D isnt as showing accurate atm?
it doesn't unfortunately, I need to manually update it each time someone adds a new chart. The only statistic accurate all the time is the gender ratio, the others are only accurate after I've updated (they will show slightly worse than they are otherwise, not better than they are because "total sways" using it is always up to date, just the "successful sways" bit needs to be manually calculated)

[rainbowflower]

actually the reason the vit D stats were out of date is that I'd forgotten to add the formula to a different sheet lol, it's fixed now

[3littleladies]

I have no idea how to add myself? It wont let me type information, Im very old school, don't know much about computers, any chance someone can tell me how I can type in the spreadsheet?

[rainbowflower]

I have no idea how to add myself? It wont let me type information, Im very old school, don't know much about computers, any chance someone can tell me how I can type in the spreadsheet?
does this link work for you? Click it, and then you can type/select your answers in the form. If the link doesn't work, pm me a link to your sway and I'll do it for you:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1X176Ro0rH_N_CNBcU-zC3VVJocMpBE-fFefXEaVTooA/viewform

[3littleladies]

does this link work for you? Click it, and then you can type/select your answers in the form. If the link doesn't work, pm me a link to your sway and I'll do it for you:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1X176Ro0rH_N_CNBcU-zC3VVJocMpBE-fFefXEaVTooA/viewform
thank you so much, I done it x

[rainbowflower]

not had many people submitting sways to this one in ages, don't forget to add yours when you know the results!

[Hokievol]

Added mine!

[mandie*wantsaboy*]

I have just added my sway :)

[rainbowflower]

Results in first post updated. I'll be doing this on the 1st of every month from now on.

[atomic sagebrush]

I just want to mention that these stats are only the people who filled out questionnaires and not all swayers. We had TONS of IG Diet blue sway opposites in the first year of the site and much, much better results with HE Diet. I would sure hate to see anyone doing IG Diet because I can promise we have much better results with HE.

[atomic sagebrush]

Anyone who is a Dream Member, I kept stats from those early days comparing the two diets here in this thread and HE got way better results.http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-boy/8668-who-swayed-ig-who-swayed-gd.html

[atomic sagebrush]

I just want to point out again that the results are NOT indicative of what the numbers on IG Diet was before the questionnaires for the spreadsheet started getting filled out. Between 2011 and 2012 (we were not yet compiling these stats at that point) we had terrible results with IGD for blue (less than 50-50) and I do not recommend anyone follow IGD for blue. I believe it lowers your odds of success and the number represented in the statistics is a quirk and nothing more. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-boy/8668-who-swayed-ig-who-swayed-gd.html

[rainbowflower]

updated boy stats

[atomic sagebrush]

thank you so very much!!

[Yahmama]

I realized I never filled this out bc it wasn't here when I swayed. Thought I'd add mine to help anyone looking. My DS2 was born 2.1.13 The questionnaire didn't ask but I had 3 mc/chemicals before him within 5 months. I was very depressed and gained 15 lbs which definitely affected my blue sway in a good way, ironically. I was eating everything in sight out of depression, so definitely HE all the way.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks so much for adding your info!!!!! Anyone out there who swayed blue (success or opposite) who hasn't done the questionnaire, we would SO very appreciate your info!!!

[True Blue]

Done :)

[rainbowflower]

boy stats updated

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you Rainbowflower!

[rainbowflower]

Updated boy stats 1st June

[rubygem]

Wow, 71% success rate! The odds are pretty good for us blue swayers! This makes me very hopeful :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you so very much!!

[dloui128]

Thank you so very much!!

Personalized plan is the way to go with that % :bowdown:

[jmomof3girls]

Wow this is very inspiring! Maybe I will get the little boy we want!

[rainbowflower]

udpated blue

[atomic sagebrush]

thank you!!!

[atomic sagebrush]

I did a writeup on my thoughts on the statistics threads here (with room for questions/concerns at the end!)
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/43555-thoughts-stats.html#post601151

[nuthinbutpink]

BUMP

[rainbowflower]

Updated, sorry about the delay this month

[atomic sagebrush]

no problem at all, thank you so very much for updating. ((((hugs))))

[atomic sagebrush]

Again, gotta mention that the IG diet WAS NOT getting anywhere near 80% success rates for us and these numbers are only the amount of people who bothered to fill out the sway stats. THe whole first year our IG dieters were getting abysmal results but we didn't have this mechanism for tracking sway data at that time.

[crazycatcouple]

Just added mine :-) Thanks!!

[rainbowflower]

updated blue sway stats

[rainbowflower]

updated blue stats 1st Oct

[odd]

I just updated mine .

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[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks so much rainbow!!

[atomic sagebrush]

BUMPING!! We have had a couple more successes and at least one opposite!

[rainbowflower]

updated blue 1st Nov

[Boysway]

So ladies, just clarifying. Are we posting our sway when we get our bfp's or when we know gender?

Thanks :D

[True Blue]

BFP Boysway :)

[Boysway]

Excellent. Thank you. I will update tomorrow :D

[True Blue]

I'm pretty certain you add your sway and then update when you know gender :)

[rainbowflower]

No, it's not possible to update when you know the gender at this stage but it's a possible future enhancement. So please only enter the details when you already know the gender

[True Blue]

Ooops sorry :)

[atomic sagebrush]

YOu can do an "add your sway" at BFP, but in this thread you need to wait till you know gender. :)

[Boysway]

Where do I find the "add your sway" at bfp section?

TIA :)

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[True Blue]

Here Boysway :)

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/misc.php?do=form&fid=14

[rainbowflower]

updated blue stats 1st Dec!

[rainbowflower]

updated blue stats Jan 2015

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you so much!

[atomic sagebrush]

Blue sways are gettting great results in 2014 - let's keep it going in 2015!

Multivitamins are getting 80% success rate!!!!! If you do one thing for your blue sway, make it that!

[Boysway]

Ohhh, how exciting atomic. I sure hope I will be in the success rate :D

[atomic sagebrush]

Me too!! Business woman got a boy too!

[rainbowflower]

updated boy stats

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you so very much!!!

[True Blue]

Oooooh how I hope I can be a 2015 success :)

[SpicyTunaSushi]

I just wanted to add that for my 2011 sway (2012 baby), I actually did IG and not HE, so the successes for HE diet should go up closer to 74%. If someone wants to update that, that would be more accurate. Good stats no matter what!

[rainbowflower]

updated blue stats

[atomic sagebrush]

thank you!

[rainbowflower]

updated blue stats

[atomic sagebrush]

thank you!

[sc1411]

I saw on the stats that in "conceived first cycle after MC" shows 0 success, but looks like all the swayers had boys. Isn't it supposed to be 100% rate. Do I get it right?:) Or I mixed smth up.

[True Blue]

Maybe none of the successful swayers attempted the first cycle after a mc, if that makes sense.

[atomic sagebrush]

I saw on the stats that in "conceived first cycle after MC" shows 0 success, but looks like all the swayers had boys. Isn't it supposed to be 100% rate. Do I get it right?:) Or I mixed smth up.

It looked to me like there were 4 people who TTC the first month after a miscarraige, and none got boys. 0% success rate

[sc1411]

I'm totally confused now, LOL!

Then why would they indicate yes in the column and if to look at the "gender resulted" all said boy. I'm looking at the screen name and move to the right to see what they have done in their sway? Correct?
Sorry ladies just trying to figure it out:) That is why I'm not a math major, LOL!

[atomic sagebrush]

I am not looking at the actual spreadsheet, I was looking at the results page. I don't have time today, can someone doublecheck to see waht is going on here?

[ELP]

It was me that asked for that to be included to see if we could see any pattern with it to help both blue and pink swayers. 4 people (blue swayers) conceived straight after m/c and all 4 had boys. So we know that for blue swayers our stats are showing that it is definitely safe for blue to ttc after m/c instead of maybe waiting a month, and for pink swayers it shows to continue what you are doing as it isn't a guarantee that it helps pink. Hopefully over time we will get more results for this one (a sad hopefully btw xx)

[atomic sagebrush]

I personally still STRONGLY recommend that blue swayers wait. 4 is not a big enough sample size for me to recommend anything and logic and biology (and other people's results which were NOT boys) I feel that it is better to wait and I will continue to recommend that.

Thank you for clarifying, ELP - I am assuming this is entered wrong in the results thread then??

[ELP]

Yes I think the result of 0% in the success should read 100%, as when I was checking up on it a while ago I thought that their had been 4 girls conceived out of the 4.

I agree aswell that the stats of 4 are definitely too small to change recommendations, but are maybe some further back up to the strength of the blue swaying!, my p/g straight after a m/c (before swaying) was a pinky between 3 blues so its a good sign especially for blue swayers who may have accidently fallen straight after that what we are doing is working!:agree:

[atomic sagebrush]

Is there any way we can get the diet stats updated to inlclude the results from 2011 and 2012, because I can guarantee that IG diet had results that were in the 40% range and the numbers in this thread are totally misleading. I know rainbow is expecting and doesn't have time, but anyone???

[atomic sagebrush]

can we please add soy iso and vegan sways to this?

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Atomic is putting you on the right path. Trust in her and yourself and let the rest go.
I know what's is like (being a boy only mom to 4) that it always "seems" like everyone is having girls but you can't make it about that anymore. When ttc (regardless of gender preference) you have to be open to changing things up and upping your odds of conception. I feel your struggle, and wish you a BFP soooonnnn!!!


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[rainbowflower]

updated blue spreadsheet

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you!!!

[zodiac]

Sorry if this has been asked already, but do these results also include unsuccessful sways that did not result in a BFP?

Or are these results only made up of those who were successful (i.e. got a BFP with either Blue/Pink)?

[atomic sagebrush]

Good question!

No, these numbers do not include those who didn't get pregnant. We do have great odds of conception for blue swayers with most people getting pregnant within 1-4 months. We do not use the tactics like Shettles timing and baking soda/egg whites that really cut odds of conception for blue swayers and have vastly superior rates of conception and with much quicker turnarounds than the other sites do (with better success rates!) :) Getting people pregnant quickly is my A1 priority and one of the main reasons why I joined this site (I used to be on one of the other sites). I saw too many people wasting months and years out of their fertility not conceiving due to sway tactics that didn't even work and I wanted to help make a better way!

[atomic sagebrush]

Here are the results for JUST DIET the first 14 months of the site.

BLUE SWAYS THAT YIELDED OPPOSITES

Begonia (HE)
waffles (HE)
Zivic Bubac (elements of both HE and IG)
son4meplz (HE without dairy)

boyjoy (IG)
Deb H (IG)
Babydes(IG)
Freya (IG)
Cheekymoo (IG)
gizmo(had some elements of HE but followed IG mineral recommendations)
SpicytunaSushi (had some elements of HE but more IG)
Iluvmyman (IG - her sway is not in the sway section, it's here http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gend...ay-2011-a.html)

I do not have much info about the following three sways.

Sunnyebsh (found a couple of her posts on IG and she did an IG style sway.)

Grasshopper (I'm not sure she ever posted a specific sway - she got pg after only a couple weeks of swaying.)

Kris 217 (this is kind of a special case because she had unusual circumstances for conception, so not sure that we should include this sway for or against either approach even if we do get more info.)

BLUE SWAYS THAT YIELDED DESIRED GENDER

Aqua (did IG but did not have super high sodium and potassium intake)
Daisyfay(IG)
Luvncamrin (IG)
Roonarpia (IG)
Proudmummy26 (IG)
My 3 girls(IG)
My Fab Children (elements of both but more IG)
Tinkerbell (IG)
Just Kim (IG)
Iyamaryam (IG)

Tink18 (HE)
Chunksta (HE)
3pink1blue(HE)
WashingtonPromise(HE)
ELP (HE)
Anissa'sHope (both, but more HE)
Bumblebee(HE)
TTC5(HE)
ams (HE, limited calcium and ate more salt but didn't track mag)
Dloui (HE)
The Anchor (HE)
Flava (HE and plan)
alexis2007(did not diet but took prenatal, B6, and high dose folic acid.)
Ynwa (HE)
Skrimpy(HE)
Hobbermittens(HE but did not do dairy)

[Throwaway_panther]

Blue sways are gettting great results in 2014 - let's keep it going in 2015!

Multivitamins are getting 80% success rate!!!!! If you do one thing for your blue sway, make it that!

Atomic, do you have a specific multivitamin you recommend? I know I've seen you recommend one elsewhere but am blanking!

[atomic sagebrush]

I recommend the Women's One a Day. (just the regular one) I know it's not exciting LOL but it is affordable and widely available, plus has the 1000 IU Vit. D but 100% of most everything else just the way I like it - and less than 100% of things that are better off at less than 100% like Vit. A and E)

[XXforhubby]

I recommend the Women's One a Day. (just the regular one) I know it's not exciting LOL but it is affordable and widely available, plus has the 1000 IU Vit. D but 100% of most everything else just the way I like it - and less than 100% of things that are better off at less than 100% like Vit. A and E)

^^^agree! I took the Women's One a Day prenatal with DHA when TTCing DS1 and DS2 (didn't know about swaying back then).


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[JoyKO]

Hello Atomic, what if one takes one a day prenatal 1, is that okay?

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[XXforhubby]

Hello Atomic, what if one takes one a day prenatal 1, is that okay?

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It's fine. I took it when TTCing my DS1 and DS2 when I didn't know a thing about swaying.

GL to you and loads of my blue baby dust- we can't seem to make a girl [emoji4] [emoji597][emoji92][emoji170][emoji843][emoji170][emoji94]


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[JoyKO]

Thank you.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Hello Atomic, what if one takes one a day prenatal 1, is that okay?

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It actually has LESS stuff in it than the normal one. I prefer the normal one. The Prenatal has extra iron and DHA in it, which means that they had to take out some other stuff (or end up with a massive pill that no one could swallow LOL and yes they admit this on their website). I think it is best to take the normal orange bottle women's one a day plus fish oil or similar DHA supp separately.

[JoyKO]

@Atomic, Yeah I know, the pill is huge. Thanks for your suggestion. I'm new to this, so trying to get it right.

Here are list of the supplements I'm taking for my boy sway:

One a day prenatal 1
Folic Acid 800mcg 3x a day
Fish Oil 1000mg 2x a day
Coq10 100mg 1 × daily
Vitamin D3 1000iu 1 x daily
Alka seltzer 2 tabs 1 × daily
Guafenesin 400 mg 1tab 3 × a day from 5 days to O day

Others:
Green tea 2 cups a day
Lemon water 2 cups a day
1 cup of v8 juice a day
Green leafy Veg and fruits

Are these supplements okay to take? And when do I stop taking each one of them. Couldn't find that in the forums.

Saw a place where you said potassium pill is not recommended. Also ASG, why?

When do I dtd during my fertile window... and how many days abstinence is recommended?



DH, doesn't want to take any supplements or make any adjustments here so I'm all alone in this.

Sorry for my long questions. I'm new here.
Thanks


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[atomic sagebrush]

If you take the women's one a day you don't NEED the additional Vit. D because it already has that in there. But the Prenatal one doesn't and you'd have to take extra D in that case.

I don't like the Alka Seltzer but that's up to you. It doesn't work and it isn't safe.

You're taking too much fish oil, please no more than 1000 mg a day total. and in your case since the prenatal does already HAVE DHA you should do 500 and no more than that. You could harm yourself taking too much.

You're already going to be getting enough potassium thru diet (if you do HE Diet instead of that awful IG Diet). You don't NEED IT. Your body knows what to do with potassium it gets from foods, potassium from medicine form makes it "confused" and you actually can end up low in potassium from taking it in pill form, because your body gets "nervous" and is like OMG I got to get rid of this stuff and starts peeing out a whole lot of it. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-boy/16806-high-everything-diet-nutshell-version.html

Stop Alka Seltzer, guan, and green tea at ovulation. At BFP, gradually wean off of Coq10 and wean back fish oil to the amount of DHA in a prenatal supplement. Do this by gradually spacing doses furhter and further out till you're down to one per week and then just drop them (and then continue with just prenatal containing DHA at that point.) Should take about 3 weeks. Continue extra folic acid through first trimester of pregnancy, then gradually wean off by spacing doses down to amount in prenatal. Everything else is fine and safe into pregnancy.
We have found that sticking to one attempt is a strong PINK sway tactic. Thus, we have more than one attempt.

If you believe in Shettles timing, do OPK strips and have one attempt the night of positive OPK, again the next morning, and then again the following night (last two attempts would be on O day) Have DH release on his own or with you, with a condom, every 2-4 days thru the whole cycle, starting as far in advance of attempt as is feasible.

If you DON'T believe in SHettles, have unprotected sex every 2-4 days starting as far in advance as is feasible and then tack the 3 attempts at or around positive OPK onto that.

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh and welcome by the way, Joy! Glad you found us!

[JoyKO]

Is this the correct multivitamin? Trying to buy it now

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[JoyKO]

Thanks so much for this clarification. Wish I had asked this question earlier than today. Thanks for your help

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[atomic sagebrush]

Yes that's the one I like the best. :)

I'm glad you came out of lurkdom! Just ask whatever questions you have.

[JoyKO]

Since after weaning my baby from breastfeeding, I discovered I now have like 34 days cycle. And I ovulate on cd 20, 21 or 22 depending, but I've been ttc for 3 months now and nothing has happened. Don't know if you have any suggestions for me.

I know clomid, vitex and b6 regulate cycle and luteal phase but they sway pink, that's why I don't want to take them. What can I do to bring back my cycle to the normal range?

I don't know if that's why I've not been able to conceive.

I'm 29 and DH is 35. Didn't try for my first, it was a one time thing.

Don't know what's going on now.

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[atomic sagebrush]

That is still a normal range cycle. You do not have to do anything about that, it's fine. The LP is in normal range as well

DO NOT use Clomid, vitex, or B6. You do not need Clomid and the herb/vitamin may really really mess up your cycle and make it even longer.

That is NOT why you haven't gotten pregnant yet. Sometimes your body just isn't ready those first few cycles.

ARe you doing anything else to sway (like baking soda or egg white)?? ARe you only having one attempt on O day?? Those things really do prevent pregnancy.

[JoyKO]

The first time I did nothing, the 2nd cycle I did preseed, not as a douche, just used it as a lube. Then 3rd one did egg white and bsf just during the attempt. Still BFNs. So don't know why.

I'm getting a little bit worried. Cos I'll like my kids to be close in age cos I'd want to go back to school for my postgraduate.

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[JoyKO]

Glad I came across this page. Believing that I'd get my bfp soon

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[atomic sagebrush]

Egg white and BSF really cut odds of conception. I do not recommend them at all.

Are you trying for one attempt on O?? That really cuts odds of conception by a lot.

It takes fully fertile people doing nothing to sway, an average of 3-6 months. I think the first couple months just weren't your month. Stay away from BSF and egg whites, they DO cut odds of conception. If trying for one attempt that is not going to help you conceive at all (and we get 70% GIRLS with one attempt) so I really recommend increasing that.

[JoyKO]

I try 2x. The night of +opk and the next morning. But don't do frequent release. Just started that this month. Every 4days bd.

Also, I'm not planning on using anything this month. My O is due between Tuesday and Thursday next week. Cos it changes by a day every month

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[atomic sagebrush]

I think you're making all the right changes!! Sending tons of blue dust your way!!

[JoyKO]

Thanks so much.

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[JoyKO]

@ Atomic, My first attempt starts tonight. Confused on what to do. What supplements do i take today and tomorrow? What kind of drinks? Position? Should hubby drink redbull cos he doesn't drink coffee? Freaking out.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Oh sorry I only just now saw this.

I think you should just keep doing what you've been doing in terms of supplements and drinks. We have no evidence that anything you do at the last minute with supps or drinks matter.

Most people do either doggy style or deep missionary with your legs over his shoulders for position. If you can have an O do so.

I don't really think the caff. right before helps, a Red Bull once in a while won't hurt anything but he needs to keep them to a once in a while thing. Energy drinks have anecdotally seemed to sway pink.

[JoyKO]

Thanks Atomic. Pls I sent you a message, can you check it and reply me? Thanks so much for your help.

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[aoverby23]

I think you said you need the blue sway stats updated so I was wondering if you knew what the stats were for frequency of 2 times versus 3 times?

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[atomic sagebrush]

We are going off of our pink sway results to determine number of attempts for blue. Our data for pink showed very clearly that one attempt swayed pink about 70% of the time, this fell to about 65% with two attempts, and all the way down to 45% with three. And this was with overall good pink sways! So since we saw that trend in our pink sway results we now aim at 3 attempts for blue. :)