BBT help and OPK since taking suppliment for ttc pink

[aintnocinderella]

Can any one help. i have been charting for two months and this last month i started suppliments properly to check how it effected my cycle. It is very very different from last month. I started to get EWCM and so did an OPK a week earlier that i anticipated and it was positive. i have got the hang of my temps and no shift, 4 days of positive OPK's on the 2 days cm had started to dry up and then this morning thermal shift and lunch time OPK negative. Does anyone have any idea on what day i OV'd. if the first positie test detects the increase and the last test was the surge on its way down do you think i Ov'd on the third day of pos OPK? my last cycle my temp shifted three days after i think i ov'd, again CM had dried up and i already had 3 days of neg OPK's which is why i came to this conclusion. quite happy it seems to be a shorter cycle leading up to OV than before taking suppliment is this good or bad. Also been drinking lots of peppermint tea. please help i have a couple of months before ttc but was hoping for a cut off and right now it seems impossible do i count the first pos OPK as a day towards my cut off assuming i dont acutally OV until atleast 48 hours after. and what is it changes and i end up dtd too soon :(

[rainbowflower]

usually you OV on the last day of a positive OPK (or the day after) if you have multiple positives in a row

[atomic sagebrush]

Can any one help. i have been charting for two months and this last month i started suppliments properly to check how it effected my cycle. It is very very different from last month. I started to get EWCM and so did an OPK a week earlier that i anticipated and it was positive. i have got the hang of my temps and no shift, 4 days of positive OPK's on the 2 days cm had started to dry up and then this morning thermal shift and lunch time OPK negative. Does anyone have any idea on what day i OV'd. if the first positie test detects the increase and the last test was the surge on its way down do you think i Ov'd on the third day of pos OPK? my last cycle my temp shifted three days after i think i ov'd, again CM had dried up and i already had 3 days of neg OPK's which is why i came to this conclusion. quite happy it seems to be a shorter cycle leading up to OV than before taking suppliment is this good or bad. Also been drinking lots of peppermint tea. please help i have a couple of months before ttc but was hoping for a cut off and right now it seems impossible do i count the first pos OPK as a day towards my cut off assuming i dont acutally OV until atleast 48 hours after. and what is it changes and i end up dtd too soon :(

If your cycle changes it can be a good sign the sway is working for you. Short or long cycles don't sway either way as far as we know, it's just that whenever your cycles change that can mean your hormones are different than they were.

I agree with rainbow, you prob. Oed the last day or day after of the positives BUT you may have released two eggs so the surge lasted longer than it would have. Did you have any kind of a fade in or were they all equally dark??

If you do think you're having a fade in that's great for a cutoff, if you start getting several days of near-pos. OPK you can just BD the first day of the near-pos and hope that your cycle will be the same as it was in the previous months. Cutoffs can be a dicey business for that very reason but just know that they don't sway that much, so even if you O early the month of your attempt, you still have a great chance at your DG, plus you'll be doing other things to sway besides.

[aintnocinderella]

thanks girls, i had no fade in, infact i wasnt due to start doing OPK's for another week since last month was a 35 day cycle and it was only because i noticed a lot of EWCM that i tested and it was positive, i know this wasnt the case last month as i only had 1 positive OPK and this time it was 4. no fade in but one positive, then the next day one positive in the afternoon and then one negative in the evening followed by 2 more days of positives and finally a negative (i try to test the same time every day roughly). I have been drinking lots of peppermint tea and obviously supps. can notice a deff change in my cervix from now and then but didnt really notice it change as such (after how many days does it change after ov?) i dont get any OV pain but some light cramping a few days after. i am still charting but like anything i now am desperate for a new month to see how it is next month. so glad i am not in a hurry. i too dont hold much hope for a cut off (another friend just unsuccesfull today) but would like to add it in to be sure since i am quite fertile. DH is very supportive. i feel like we need to have a practice before so i can see how his swimmers effect my ph and how long it takes me to get it to the right ph but i am so scared i will fall pregnant even tho all the signs are saying i am infertile. I have no history of twins or realsing more than one egg. Is there anything i am doing that could cause that? Last question there was a sign change in temp. some websites say it can take up to three days for temp rise is that right?

[atomic sagebrush]

Temp rise happens after O so yes it is possible that it could happen even 3 days later (although I suspect this is pretty unusual). Once the temps rise, the egg is dead.

Good work catching the CM and thinking to do an OPK!

If you're taking vitex then that can cause you to release two eggs, but everyone releases 2 eggs now and then, even if you never realized it, you have probably done it a few times.

[zanacal]

That's really interesting what you say about your cycle changing meaning your hormones have changed, which may be good for a sway for a gender different to what you had before. I have 3 boys and have always had a very regular 28 day cycle with ovulation on day 14 so I've been loathed to start taking vitex (BFing so not considering saw palmetto) and mess with that - but do you think a change could be a good thing, even if it means some uncertainty?

K x

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes, I do think that the uncertainty is a good thing in terms of hormones, esp. for those of us with 3-4-5 of the same gender already (because we know what type of cycles are "boy-friendly" - and probably highly fertile - for us). It means that something is different and our level of fertility is different.

[zanacal]

Interesting - thank you!

[aintnocinderella]

I just a thought of something that might effect my sway. when my last little boy was born i opted for the depo injection which in the uk is a synthetic version of the hormone oestrogen. anyway i didnt get on with it, i had two (maybe 3) injections but bled heavily thoughout the period i was on it and have been on no form of birth control since. my little one will be two next month so its been well over a year but my cycles since have been very heavy. this cycle since starting suppliment and drinking LOADS of peppermint tea i am not bleeding as heavy in the first two days as normal ???? do you think the depo injection may have change my fertility and maybe i am changing it back with everything i am doing in my attempt to sway girl ? i am sticking to the french diet loosly until the month i ttc (August) when i will do the low everything diet and a 4 day cut off. so cinfused now. i have just started using clear blue fertility monitor in an attempt to pinpoint a little earlier OV

[atomic sagebrush]

I think it's totally possible that the Depo screwed with your cycles, but please understand that we don't KNOW that changes in cycle mean anything at all, I just think it can be a sign that something is different. Maybe that something different is good (and when we're swaying I think that it usually is good because our bodies are ~probably~ gonna respond to things the way everyone else's bodies do), but it could also be bad or neutral. It could very well be the case that the Depo made you even MORE boy friendly than you were to begin with and you need to get back to where you were and beyond that to get into the pink zone.

Plus, evidence indicates it may be changes in your hormones that send signals to your body, so anything you do differently may help your body to sit up and take notice.

[aintnocinderella]

thanks atomic does high oestrogen sway boy? it has been a while but being a young mum and my first pregnancy being a little surprize it has only been since finding swaying i have even looked at my cycles. i guess i must always have been quite regular beacuse i noticed when i had missed a period with boy unplanned pregnancies and tested but i remember it being quite early on. is your relationship with your older boys good atomic. i think thats what drives my need for alittle girl... to have that connection with my child. my boys are amazing but they are so little and they are such 'boy' boys in to dirt and mud and not cuddles and kisses :(

[atomic sagebrush]

thanks atomic does high oestrogen sway boy? it has been a while but being a young mum and my first pregnancy being a little surprize it has only been since finding swaying i have even looked at my cycles. i guess i must always have been quite regular beacuse i noticed when i had missed a period with boy unplanned pregnancies and tested but i remember it being quite early on. is your relationship with your older boys good atomic. i think thats what drives my need for alittle girl... to have that connection with my child. my boys are amazing but they are so little and they are such 'boy' boys in to dirt and mud and not cuddles and kisses :(

High estrogen is believed to sway boy but honestly, so little is known that we're not entirely sure. Estrogen and testosterone tend to rise together and are made out of the same raw dietary materials (oddly, so is progesterone which is thought to perhaps sway pink), so we're not 100% if it's higher levels of one, the other, both, all three, or some ratio that makes the body more boy/girl friendly.

My relationship with my older boys is really great. We have everything in common and I cannot imagine being any closer to daughters than I am with them. I never even had GD when I was raising them and I was totally happy as a boy mom for 13 years until I got pg with my DS 3 and just "felt" that he was a girl. Plus, they are very good about taking care of me, in the sense that they like to help me with groceries, lift heavy objects, killing spiders, etc. in their manly ways. They were typical boy boys and liked to play in the dirt and stuff, and they're never going to care as much about clothes and babies as I do, but we still connect over most other things. Don't ever worry about not having a good relationship with your boys!!!