Supplement doses

[Plum3]

I am slowly coming up with a supplement list for DH and I that I am happy to start with. There are just so many supplement recommendations though. I have read and re-read all the info regarding supps but I am still having trouble with getting all the correct doses. I don't know if my brain is just overloaded and I have overlooked a thread but is there one that lists all the doses?

Also, I will need Clomid to conceive, as I did with my two daughters. I know there are certain supps you can't take on Clomid ie. EPO, but is this only when I am taking the Clomid or should I avoid the supps in the months before TTC as well? And are there any other particular ones that I should avoid with Clomid?

Sorry for the question overload!

Bec :)

[Zivic-Bubac]

Hi Bec! :)

Clomid sways pink, is there any other medication you might take? Depending on how old are you ( the older, the better:rofl: ) you may want to check with your doctor DHEA, it helps with ovulation and IVF candidates are taking it.

You don't want to stop supps week before attempt because you want to be sure your internal environment is boy-friendly.

Here are some supps and dosages:

FA 2000 mcg or more/day
Fish Oil 1000mg/day
vit E 100-400 IU/day
Zinc 50 mg/day
vit B12 150 mcg/day
Royal Jelly/Bee pollen 50 mg/day 1 teaspoon in the morning, 1 in the evening
Green Tea 2-3 cups per day, improves overall fertility and sway blue, but blocks FA absorption, so if you are taking it make sure you are having enough FA!!!! Also can be taken in the form of tablets
L-Arginine 500 mg/day
Robitussin - there is a sticky above dedicated completely to Robitussin :agree:
Alka Seltzer Gold - I cannot find it here and I'm not sure about the dosages

EPO - IDK, it did nothing for me, just moved my O day, so I left it out. You don't need to take all the supps, find those that are working best for you.

Also good Prenatals are swaying blue, there is a Sticky about them too.

Here are few links you may find helpful http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?1628-Complete-guide-to-taking-supplements
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?3177-Improving-egg-quality&highlight=improving+egg+quality
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?2921-supplement-list&highlight=supplement+list

Also there is a sticky about Wheatgrass juice.
And last, but not least: Baking Soda drink (BSD), only af->O, I think maximum dosage is 3 teaspoons dissolved in a glass of water, but it's a MUST to check a Sticky about maximum dosage bcos you CAN OD with it!!!! ( I can barely swallow 1 glass of it, so I'm far, far away from maximum dosages)
If you are older then 35, you may want to include CoQ-10 in your sway - antioxidant, 50-100 mg day.

HTH!!!! :luck:

[Plum3]

Thanks for all the info Zivic, very helpful :)

I have never heard of DHEA being used to induce ovulation. Maybe it depends on the country? I'm in Australia. I actually needed FSH injections as well to conceive my first daughter so I guess I could go straight down that path again. I'm not too worried about Clomid swaying pink. It didn't actually make my CM dry up and that's the main reason it sways pink isn't it? Without actually realising it, I was totally swaying pink with my girls in every way.

Yep, I do have time on my side, I'm 27.

I'm going to use ural instead of ASG and BSD I think, apparently it's better?

[Zivic-Bubac]

From what I've read, ASG has pleasant taste and Ural not quite, but I haven't tasted either of them.
BSD will raise your pH and give you your Sodium boost.
ASG is also rich in Potassium (344mg per serving)

Clomid makes hostile CM and therefore decreases the number of swimmers which sways pink. But maybe you can counteract with some good lube ( atomic is highly recommending PreSeed) and Robitussin.

You are so young, so you don't need DHEA.:luck::luck::luck:

[Plum3]

Hmm, I will have to do some more reading about ural/BSD/ASG and figure out which one I should start with.

Yep, will definitely be using either Preseed or EW and Robitussin as well.

[gizmo77]

this is the hardest part for me, choosing a supplement. and not even so much fo rme but for dh esply since he is not 100% agreeable with theories (in life in general). he doesnt want to risk his health with some pills that i give him bc of something i read on the internet. a true skeptic. even tho everything is natural.

i also put together a list of supps with doses, thx for yours zivic! i have some additional ones. but i dont know which ones can or cannot be taken with clomid. i took clomid for the 1st pg (didnt end up needing it) and had my DD (actually conceived twins but one didnt make it early on).

DW
Tribulus Terrestris (TT) 200-750mg/day (AF-O)
False unicorn root 900mg/day
Zinc 8mg (i saw that dose for women..but i wonder if 50mg is ok?)
Potassium 99mg/day

DH
TT 200-750mg/day
L-Carnitine 500mg/day


ASG 2tabs a day

zivic had the rest!
good luck!

[Plum3]

My DH is all for taking supps. He has always wanted a son and he is the reason I found out about swaying actually.

I have almost finished my supp list including doses. DH and I will both take a prenatal, but I just have to work out what extra supps to get that aren't in the prenatal.

Gizmo, I saw you posted in the thread about TT. Does that mean you will be removing it from your list? I hadn't researched much about it yet but after reading the thread I am going to steer clear of it.

My DH and I are reasonably young so my main goal of the supps is to increase testosterone, pH and EWCM. I am going to try fertilaid for women before we ttc to see if can regulate my cycles and help me O.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks for all the info Zivic, very helpful :)

I have never heard of DHEA being used to induce ovulation. Maybe it depends on the country? I'm in Australia. I actually needed FSH injections as well to conceive my first daughter so I guess I could go straight down that path again. I'm not too worried about Clomid swaying pink. It didn't actually make my CM dry up and that's the main reason it sways pink isn't it? Without actually realising it, I was totally swaying pink with my girls in every way.

Yep, I do have time on my side, I'm 27.

I'm going to use ural instead of ASG and BSD I think, apparently it's better?

The problem is we really don't KNOW why Clomid sways pink. We suspect it's the hostile CM but no one honestly knows for sure. But a lot of women have conceived boys on Clomid so I wouldn't be deterred.

AT 27 you dont' need DHEA (and in fact it can affect you negatively at that age) but just to clarify, it doesn't trigger ovulation, it may make healthier eggs and lower FSH levels in older women.

I like Ural better than ASG and BSD.

[atomic sagebrush]

this is the hardest part for me, choosing a supplement. and not even so much fo rme but for dh esply since he is not 100% agreeable with theories (in life in general). he doesnt want to risk his health with some pills that i give him bc of something i read on the internet. a true skeptic. even tho everything is natural.

i also put together a list of supps with doses, thx for yours zivic! i have some additional ones. but i dont know which ones can or cannot be taken with clomid. i took clomid for the 1st pg (didnt end up needing it) and had my DD (actually conceived twins but one didnt make it early on).

DW
Tribulus Terrestris (TT) 200-750mg/day (AF-O)
False unicorn root 900mg/day
Zinc 8mg (i saw that dose for women..but i wonder if 50mg is ok?)
Potassium 99mg/day

DH
TT 200-750mg/day
L-Carnitine 500mg/day


ASG 2tabs a day

zivic had the rest!
good luck!

Too much zinc is actually just as bad as not enough. I would take only 20-25 mg.

I personally prefer you guys get potassium through diet and not supps. Playing around with your potassium levels can be dangerous.

[atomic sagebrush]

My DH is all for taking supps. He has always wanted a son and he is the reason I found out about swaying actually.

I have almost finished my supp list including doses. DH and I will both take a prenatal, but I just have to work out what extra supps to get that aren't in the prenatal.

Gizmo, I saw you posted in the thread about TT. Does that mean you will be removing it from your list? I hadn't researched much about it yet but after reading the thread I am going to steer clear of it.

My DH and I are reasonably young so my main goal of the supps is to increase testosterone, pH and EWCM. I am going to try fertilaid for women before we ttc to see if can regulate my cycles and help me O.

There are some ingredients in fertilaid that may sway pink, namely Vitex (some people believe B6 sways pink, but I don't.) That having been said, a lot of people have conceived boys on Vitex, including ME!

[Plum3]

So it seems that both Fertilaid and Clomid may sway pink. Atomic, do you think I would be better off trying the Fertilaid or just sticking with what I know works (Clomid)? And if I was to try fertilaid and it did regulate my cycles and make me O, would I need to continue taking it when we were TTC?

[atomic sagebrush]

I personally would probably with Clomid because it works beyond a shadow of a doubt, but that having been said you MUST pull out all the stops to get pg quickly while you're on it - if you stay on it too long it causes all kinds of trouble as I'm sure you know. That can be a downside for swayers because sometimes it can take several months for us to get pg.

If Fertilaid works for you and you don't want to do the Clomid, by all means!!! It may in fact be wiser for you to do just that since you're swaying blue - Fertilaid may sway pink less strongly than the Clomid does and it will also help with your lining.

You can continue to take Fertilaid every day until pg has been confirmed.

[Plum3]

I think I will just stick to the Clomid, and then if that doesn't make me ovulate then I'm sure my specialist will try FSH injections again. Each time I O'd I fell pregnant first try. My lining was always good. I had internal ultrasounds every few days so they always checked the lining as well. Thanks again!

[gizmo77]

I have almost finished my supp list including doses. DH and I will both take a prenatal, but I just have to work out what extra supps to get that aren't in the prenatal.

Gizmo, I saw you posted in the thread about TT. Does that mean you will be removing it from your list? I hadn't researched much about it yet but after reading the thread I am going to steer clear of it.

My DH and I are reasonably young so my main goal of the supps is to increase testosterone, pH and EWCM. I am going to try fertilaid for women before we ttc to see if can regulate my cycles and help me O.

bec, i was just THINKING last night of having DH take some of my prenatals instead of his regualr centrum a-zinc daily multivitamins!!
also the list that wrote above was just part of a master list for me to choose from (i just re-wrote out the supplements from this website and doses so i can better organize and view, not our personal list).

at this point after reading the posts on here, neither me nor my husb will be taking TT. anything risky i wont take!!! i got 2 girls already! even that seemed to be one of the top T raising supps. i just want THE perfect sway...good luck!

[atomic sagebrush]

I think I will just stick to the Clomid, and then if that doesn't make me ovulate then I'm sure my specialist will try FSH injections again. Each time I O'd I fell pregnant first try. My lining was always good. I had internal ultrasounds every few days so they always checked the lining as well. Thanks again!

That is also a good omen for your ability to conceive a boy because good lining means higher estrogen, which may sway blue.

[atomic sagebrush]

bec, i was just THINKING last night of having DH take some of my prenatals instead of his regualr centrum a-zinc daily multivitamins!!
also the list that wrote above was just part of a master list for me to choose from (i just re-wrote out the supplements from this website and doses so i can better organize and view, not our personal list).

at this point after reading the posts on here, neither me nor my husb will be taking TT. anything risky i wont take!!! i got 2 girls already! even that seemed to be one of the top T raising supps. i just want THE perfect sway...good luck!

Prenatals are fine for DH to take - or you might want to check out one of the 50+ supps, like One a Day for men 50 and up. They usually have more of the good stuff in them than regular men's vites do.

[Plum3]

bec, i was just THINKING last night of having DH take some of my prenatals instead of his regualr centrum a-zinc daily multivitamins!!
also the list that wrote above was just part of a master list for me to choose from (i just re-wrote out the supplements from this website and doses so i can better organize and view, not our personal list).

at this point after reading the posts on here, neither me nor my husb will be taking TT. anything risky i wont take!!! i got 2 girls already! even that seemed to be one of the top T raising supps. i just want THE perfect sway...good luck!

I know what you mean, I want the perfect sway as well. I guess we all do!

Not sure about giving DH a prenatal now, I might check out the multivitamins that atomic suggested. That's all I have to do really, just work out which multivitamin to give him and then work out what extra supps I need to give him that aren't in the multi.

[Plum3]

That is also a good omen for your ability to conceive a boy because good lining means higher estrogen, which may sway blue.

Oh good. I like hearing positive things :) Thanks!

[gizmo77]

I know what you mean, I want the perfect sway as well. I guess we all do!

Not sure about giving DH a prenatal now, I might check out the multivitamins that atomic suggested. That's all I have to do really, just work out which multivitamin to give him and then work out what extra supps I need to give him that aren't in the multi.

my point in giving him the prenatals was to avoid swallowing 13 pills in one day. but it seems that his multivitamin (centrum) has more stuff init thats good for conception/swaying (like selenium and chromium..from what i read on the internet).

plus no matter what he ll have to take additional supps anyway so...

so i think ill go for that unless i find a better multivitamin, like the ones atomic was suggestion s(for 50+ yrs). my husb will be so offended! hahah

[Plum3]

Yeah that's why I am sticking to the multi. My husband will take whatever I tell him if it increases the chances!

[TTC5]

That is also a good omen for your ability to conceive a boy because good lining means higher estrogen, which may sway blue.

Can you tell, other than ultrasound, if you have a good lining?

[Plum3]

Can you tell, other than ultrasound, if you have a good lining?

Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think you would be able to. I guess you could estimate what your lining was based on estrogen levels if you knew what they were.

[TTC5]

So period flow would not be an indicator then?

[Plum3]

Hmm, that's interesting. I guess the more lining you had the heavier your flow would be? I have always had light flows when I get AF but I don't O so my lining is probably pathetic without fertility drugs.

[atomic sagebrush]

NO, not necessarily. I have short and light periods but I've never had any problem getting pg with baby boys LOL!!

Short of an ultrasound, there's no real way to tell how your lining is. If you have had a lot of chemical pregnancies, that ~may~ indicate that your lining isn't as healthy as it should be BUT that is just one possible explanation for chemical pregnancies, there are other things that can cause them (bad eggs, low progesterone, possibly blood glucose issues that are keeping the bean from developing normally)