Frequent bedding

[swish]

I'm a bit confused about frequent bedding, I planned on doing this as i want to get pregnant as quickly as possible and don't think I'll be able to keep up the diet for long. My question is, should you do it protected until your cut off day in case you get pregnant on say 4/5 days before o (I saw this n another website) or unprotected from end of af?

Thanks!

[shouldihope?]

I was wondering that too.

[wishing on a star]

i dont know if this is the right answer but i did unprotected as i wanted to make sure i had a few spermies in there as wasnt getting pregnant with abstaining, hope this is right lol
xx

[purplepoet20]

There are different types of this but mostly it is whatever you can handle. Some go protected but most don't... if the life of sperm theory is right then girl sperm live longer then boy sperm.

This is what I a planning... I have decided to do abstain from a few days before AF until cycle day 9 (about 11+days)and then do freq BD until day 4. If I don't get preg after 2 cycles I will try a 3 day cut off.

[zanacal]

I haven't decided whether to have one attempt or more yet but I'll be doing protected until I'm safely in girl zone! I also don't want to actually DTD too many days because I don't want too many swimmers in there and I don't want my testosterone to rise (so will be asking DH to go solo mostly!). Of course, if it takes me months to get pregnant and I'm completely fed up of the whole thing I may back track!

Kelly x

[swish]

Thanks girls, I thinki want to go with the option that gets me pregnant as I don't think I'm that patient!

[Out of the Blue]

I used to think I would try to target the "girl zone" but the more I read, the less I think it matters. What is the "girl zone" anyway? O+12, 3 day cutoff, who knows for sure? There are people who swear by pretty much every timing out there. It just started to stress me out too much and I felt jaded everytime I'd read about a different "girl zone" timing that is "probably" the best. A month or so ago, I just decided to throw up my hands and let things happen as they do. Like you, Swish, I'm also hoping to get a BFP as soon as possible so I think we'll do the unprotected route and hope the diet changes, lube, etc. pay off.

[DoulaMama]

I used to think I would try to target the "girl zone" but the more I read, the less I think it matters. What is the "girl zone" anyway? O+12, 3 day cutoff, who knows for sure? There are people who swear by pretty much every timing out there. It just started to stress me out too much and I felt jaded everytime I'd read about a different "girl zone" timing that is "probably" the best. A month or so ago, I just decided to throw up my hands and let things happen as they do. Like you, Swish, I'm also hoping to get a BFP as soon as possible so I think we'll do the unprotected route and hope the diet changes, lube, etc. pay off.

^ ditto :) I plan on frequent BD through O with sylk and replens. I DTD once on O day with all 3 of my boys....so I'm mixing it up this time. :D

[zanacal]

Do you know, the closer I get to our attempt, the more I'm starting to think along these same lines - I really, really don't want to be doing crazy diet and exercise and taking (very expensive!) supplements for too long, but at the same time I conceived all my DS's on the day of O or by DTD the day before O. I just feel like I should make sure I do something different, even though it probably doesn't matter iykwim?

This will be my first time ever using OPKs and I'm hoping I'll start off with some 'almost' positives and that those almost positives will help with timing but I don't know until I've used them! I also have a Clearblue Digital Ovulation Monitor - are these more sensitive than others or just more expensive?! Will it show me something different do you think? Whilst I don't want to get hung up on timing or stressed by it, I would like something quite simple to guide me so I stop a little bit before I O ....

You see, I really can't make my mind up lol!

[swish]

Zanacal, I've found my opk have a faint line 2 pr 3 days before o so that is going to dictate my cut off, hopefully that will happen with you as it makes it all sooo much easier!

[zanacal]

I hope so Swish!!

[atomic sagebrush]

I'm a bit confused about frequent bedding, I planned on doing this as i want to get pregnant as quickly as possible and don't think I'll be able to keep up the diet for long. My question is, should you do it protected until your cut off day in case you get pregnant on say 4/5 days before o (I saw this n another website) or unprotected from end of af?

Thanks! If you want to go this route, I would DTD unprotected from the end of AF to your cutoff. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me that somehow there are more boys conceived 4-5 days before O, then more girls, then more boys again. How? Why? They've studied sperm and they all live about the same amount of time.

The only downside to frequent BD is that you ~might~ increase the numbers of sperm in the VJ and that ~might~ sway blue. But again, we don't know how or why that even would work and if you're doing other things to sway anyway, like diet, antihistamines, and/or jellies, it may be that you NEED to DTD that much just to conceive at all.

[atomic sagebrush]

There are different types of this but mostly it is whatever you can handle. Some go protected but most don't... if the life of sperm theory is right then girl sperm live longer then boy sperm.

This is what I a planning... I have decided to do abstain from a few days before AF until cycle day 9 (about 11+days)and then do freq BD until day 4. If I don't get preg after 2 cycles I will try a 3 day cut off.

I know we talked about this on another thread Purple, but just for benefit of anyone else reading this thread...

The idea that girl sperm are bigger, stronger, or longer lived than boy sperm, has been debunked. X and Y sperm are about the same size, live the same amount of time, and swim the same speed. Shettles made a mistake and mistook capacitated and uncapacitated sperm for Y and X sperm respectively and his theory of timing was totally based on this mistake.

[atomic sagebrush]

Zanacal, I've found my opk have a faint line 2 pr 3 days before o so that is going to dictate my cut off, hopefully that will happen with you as it makes it all sooo much easier!

Totally! :agree:

[atomic sagebrush]

I used to think I would try to target the "girl zone" but the more I read, the less I think it matters. What is the "girl zone" anyway? O+12, 3 day cutoff, who knows for sure? There are people who swear by pretty much every timing out there. It just started to stress me out too much and I felt jaded everytime I'd read about a different "girl zone" timing that is "probably" the best. A month or so ago, I just decided to throw up my hands and let things happen as they do. Like you, Swish, I'm also hoping to get a BFP as soon as possible so I think we'll do the unprotected route and hope the diet changes, lube, etc. pay off.

Standing ovation!!!!!

The reason why there are so many different theories about timing (as always, IMHO) is because timing doesn't matter so any given group of people studied will have a different result just by sheer luck.

[Caty]

Sorry was just reading this thread so have come to it a little late but I hope someone can answer this for me as it is all a bit confusing....
Regarding the whole ejaculating thing is it better in or out when you are doing frequent BD?
I see what you mean about the more in there the more Y sperm but the more in there the more X sperm too right???
SO... my plan is DTD every day from AF with a 2 day cut off. I am using acijel and sylk on diet and taking supps will also take zyrtec and douche 1 hr before..... so that's a lot of stuff right?!?!?
Shall I have DH ejaulate inside one time on the day of the attempt or in the morning and evening on the day of the attempt or better still for 2 - 3 days inside up to and on the day of the cut off?
This is the only last part to the sway I am concerned about!?!

[atomic sagebrush]

No prob, I like reviving old threads so all the info stays on as few threads as possible!!

1)Technically it's prob. better to have him ejaculate outside because semen can raise pH, but if you're using jellies to lower pH then this is not as much of an issue.

2)Yes, there will be more of both X and Y sperm but some data seems to indicate that higher numbers of sperm sway blue through some mechanism that we don't understand. It could be that this isn't true though, we honestly don't know at this stage of the game.

3)"my plan is DTD every day from AF with a 2 day cut off. I am using acijel and sylk on diet and taking supps will also take zyrtec and douche 1 hr before..... so that's a lot of stuff right?!?!?" I think that's a great plan!! :agree:

4)"Shall I have DH ejaulate inside one time on the day of the attempt or in the morning and evening on the day of the attempt or better still for 2 - 3 days inside up to and on the day of the cut off?" That is entirely your option and depends a lot on how desperate you are to get a BFP. The strictest way would be to only ejaculate in you once, but it might increase your odds of pregnancy to have him make a deposit more than once. Esp. since you're doing a lot of other stuff to sway, you might want to give it more than one shot because otherwise you may not get pg at all. If you can't get pg, you have no chance at your DG.