Any blue swayers TTC in dec 2013

[Ewpnx1]

Hi there i m looking for future TTC :DS:buddies :) I m startting from this december and have a personalised plan from AS which I just started to do. I am nervous :nails: want a boy to complete our family :fami01:

[crazycatcouple]

We are also going to start TTCing in December, hoping to sway boy as well! And I just filled out the forms for the personalized plan as well, but still waiting to get it back, but we'll be starting immediately :-)

[icesfire]

hi girls I starting TTC boy when my Af show up due tomorrow but if I still TTC I be you buddie there not too many off use ttc blue right now.

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[crazycatcouple]

Awesome! I'll take any buddies I can get throughout this process :-) We just started all the supplements and the diet, and I think will end up actually "trying" right around the holidays. We just have one daughter so far, but really want to stop at 2 kiddos, so this will be our only shot at having a little man.

[icesfire]

I know the feeling this is are last try for the boy too. We have 3 healthy girls and loss 3 boys. we are hopping so much for that boy this time.

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[treens]

Hi ladies!!!!!
I am new here but am reading like a mad woman!
We will be trying for a boy in december too right around the holidays :) Got AF today so only 1 month left!!!!
We are a blended family, I have a boy and a girl, my husband has 2 girls and we have a girl together. My husband wants more than anything to have a boy that is "his" my son is his but its still not the same. He actually wants twin boys LOL! I would love that too!

So what are you ladies doing? Where are you from?

[MIka1104]

Hi, I'm also new and just started reading the info on this site. It has been very helpful as I'm just finding out about swaying. My husband and I have 2 beautiful daughters and he's been talking about having a baby for about a year now. I finally stopped my bc pills and finally seem to have a normal AF this month. I hope to O soon. We are really hoping for a boy to complete our family. I started the boy diet and have read up on ewcm and everything. There is so much info! I want to be able to say that I tried everything I could to get my son but if it's a girl I would be happy of course.

[dloui128]

Welcome ladies, good luck with your blue sways. The personalized plan from Atomic for us boy swayers have had some awesome results :)

[icesfire]

Just poping in to let you all know I cant join you in the TTC group next montb ad I get a BFP today. I will be learcking and waiting for the reast off you too join me those. I be you chure learder if that ok. Good luck.

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[treens]

thanks!!! and congratulations!!!!

[crazycatcouple]

Congrats!! Hopefully we'll be over there soon!

[crazycatcouple]

Hi treens! It sounds like you guys have a house full! That must be a lot of fun :-) I got AF on the 9th, so I'm a few days ahead of you, but my cycles have been a little long lately, so we may end up very close together.

We live in Tampa, FL and have just one daughter so far. I think we'll likely stop at just 2 kids though, so this is our only shot at having a little guy.

I did go ahead and buy the personalized plan on here, simply to save myself some time. It really helped with deciding what supplements to take and all that, as I feel like I could research all day long and still not be sure. There's so much information out there!

We swayed for our daughter (she's 2.5) using the in-gender plan, but found this site this time around. I really like the theories behind this sway, and hopefully it will work out!

My sister in law is swaying blue one month ahead of us (they are trying right around Thanksgiving, while we will around Christmas), so it'll be interesting to see if it works out for them. Why have you guys decided to wait until Dec to sway? For us it was all about timing, lol. My daughter came almost 3 weeks early, and we'd like to have our kids 4 years apart in school to help with costs and such (plus there is some that say boys tend to do better if they are older in school), so in order to get a 9/1 or later bady, we're waiting till the end of the year. Plus, last time I was in my first trimester during the holidays and was miserably sick. This time I want to enjoy the holidays before that all kicks in, lol.

[treens]

hi crazycatcouple!

I didn't even know about swaying till 2 months ago! So I'm excited to see if it works too!

We are waiting because with my husbands job he gets paid 95% of his wage to take 5 months off work which is awesome!!! So we wanted to wait a bit cuz he was just off a year ago. We don't want them to get mad lol. Also i know its crazy but the chinese gender chart shows boys DEC-MARCH for us. It was correct for my last 3 kids so we wanted to be safer than sorry :)

We are hopping it won't be to hard to get a BFP but it took us 4 months with our daughter…. Well 2.5 years &4 months. My husband had a vasectomy when we met and we knew we wanted it reversed and we ended up being on a waiting list for 2.5 years. Now we don't know if he could be scared over or anything. We are crossing our fingers everything will be ok :)

We are from Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada. Today it is -36 which is about -33 for you. Its crazy here i bet it is amazing there! But only 6 weeks and we will be in mexico. I have read that more boys are born when they are conceived in the winter months, its defiantly winter here.

I stay at home and have my own daycare and my husband works for the university of Saskatchewan as a web master.

So anything special you will be doing? Any tips you can give me lol. I guess i could say i have been trying the eat more often, cutting down on dairy. I have been eating bananas and i hate them lol.

[maria02]

Hi all
Joining in for TTC blue in December. We have an 18 month old DD and were going to hold off for a few more months, but I'm so clucky I want to try now! Will just mean no wines over Christmas if we fall straight away but I can live with that! Have been on the HE diet since the start of Nov, and loosely following the IG diet (upping protein, reducing dairy intake, upping salt and juice, cutting out sugar) for a few months before that. I'm from Australia. Looking forward to chatting :) baby dust everyone :)


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[treens]

Welcome! I also have an 18m DD :)

[treens]

Hows everyone doing? ready for December???

[maria02]

Wow treens -36, that sounds so strange to hear when it's 40 degrees (C) outside here! Summer has definitely hit here in the last few days! I took DD to the corner shop before and I think the poor thing got a little bit sunburnt in the 5 mins we were out...I'll have to watch that!

I'll have to come back and write more later as I can hear DD waking up...


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[Ewpnx1]

Hi guys i started this thread and dint check it for a while and now i see all these responses its great :) thanks for responding..i m from Australia have a lil girl who is 18 months on 14th dec and i dont want big diff between kids. Plus i would like to take break from work once i have the other one.I only want two kids and always wanted both genders so we have a daughter and would like a son :) but if doesnt happen its ok lol. Another reason is i have two sisters and both have boys no girls so i m kind of keen to have one myself. I wanted to try from dec as its holiday time and we tend to eat more and thats good for boy.i have taken personalised plan as i dont get time to research and its great. I am on supps but i dont do exercise as mentioned in it.so lets see.I have put on weight on the HE diet which they say good for boy.what you guys are doing?

[Rno]

Hi all, we are also going to start TTCing in December, hoping to sway boy as well because we only want two kids and always wanted both genders so we have a daughter and would like a son:pray::pray::pray:

[maria02]

Meant to come back beforehand! Umm so what have I been doing- I've upped my protein & red meat intake, eating 3 meals a day (when I can) often I don't have time to cook so a lot of the protein is boiled eggs. Haven't eaten sugar or artificial sweetener for months. Upped fat intake (esp coconut oil & avocado) Completely different to when I had DD and was living off sugar, diet soft drink and low fat yoghurt.

Taking vit D, fish oil, folic acid, spirulina, EPO and have ural and Robitussin to take in the next few days pre O.
Stopped cardio and doing weights 2-3x/ week.

What worries me:
Haven't been able to BD frequently- we are still only about once a week as we're just never home at the same time :(
Night shift & not getting enough sleep- I heard this sways pink, but there's nothing I can do about it apart from change careers!

I think that's about it, will add more if I remember! What's everyone else doing?




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[treens]

OK so here we go!!! Cycle day 1 was yesterday for me! I am a week early i am so excited for the 1st try!!!! How are you ladies doing? any tips for me???

[maria02]

Ohh GL treen!
I'm CD9, just entering the fertile window according to the apps on my phone :)
If we concieve this month baby & I could end up sharing a birthday haha!


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[treens]

Thats so awesome! What days did you end up bedding. That is the part I'm still not sure about lol. I am on clomid this cycle and my last pill was yesterday. I hope i still get my boy/boys hopping for twins too lol. I have been drinking green tea and drinking lots of water and some grapefruit juice (suppose to help for a good environment i believe and seems to work so far not "dry" thats for sure lol.

How are the rest of you doing?

[Ewpnx1]

hi guys i m doing OPK tests and still not ovulating.Have DTD 3-4 times so far.
waiting for positive OPK for more action lol..continuing supps and nothing else much :( so lets see.the personalized plan tells u alot to do and havnt been able to follow it just lazy :)

[maria02]

I don't even think I've O'd yet! EPO really messed up my cycle- I should have O'd on Monday! :( ATM just BD'ing every 2-3 days to see- But I've come down with a cold as of yesterday damn! So think I'm probably completely screwed over here if I get pregnant this month.


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[treens]

I just started OPK's today nothing yet hoping it will be saturday or sunday though, but i don't want to miss it! I am costing my fingers for all you girls lets get those boys!

[Rno]

I feel this month as if it will last for ever!! I can't wait to see my BFP!! I am crossing my fingers for all you girls!!

[treens]

Still no positive OPK geez things couldn't just go as planed! How are you ladies doing?

[treens]

Got my positive OPK yesterday and triggered! Here we go so exciting!!! How about all of you???

[Ewpnx1]

i got my OPK on 13th & 14th. waiting to test now for pregenency. I spotted a bit once today its day 12 post ovulation so not sure if its implanitation bleed or AF is about to arrive :( will wait. I am thinking of testing on 25th Christmas day . My actual period is due on 29th so lets see. The preg test i got it can tell a bit early so i am going to test 25th if AF dont arrive till then. Fingers crossed !!! How about you ladies??

[MIka1104]

Ewpnx1 I spotted b4 AF with both my girls so that could defintely be a good thing. FX! I am 5DPO and this 2ww is dragging by sooo slowly. I promised myself this month that I will stay busy and not think about it much (if that's even possible). I had been obsessing during the last 2 months 2ww. A BFP would be a great way to bring in 2014!

[maria02]

AF is here. Ah well, on to next month!


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[Ewpnx1]

AF came for me yesterday :rolleyes:...huh sad..but excited for next month..i am not going to sway anymore and going just with the flow :) i think its alot to do with the luck factor..i have been taking supplements for almost 3.5 months and sopping them now as sick of taking them :((
how about you ladies?

[Rno]

I feel just like you Ewpnx1!! good luck for you and me next month :bluecheer:

[treens]

9dpo here, feeling like it could be out month! We had a great christmas! Having kids for it is the best part!!!

[Leebug]

Hi ladies! Ill join u! Waiting for AF then will attempt in a few weeks.just nervous as this will be our first attempt after my early loss.I'm just scared it will happen again.

[Ewpnx1]

good luck every one for getting :pregnant:and hopefully we get our boys :))

[Leebug]

Cd 1 for me today! Looking forward to starting fresh! The EPO keeps all cramps at bay which is really a nice relief because I usually get terrible cramps!

[Ewpnx1]

HI Ladies whats everyone upto? I am waiting for positive OPk at the moment..my ovulations times in last cycles have been all over the place.. i never had regular cylces every though so gets bit tough to conceive..I am not swaying anymore as i am finding it too hard with work, home and one child..i am happy to have whatever gender :)

[treens]

Af came on the 3rd so I'm just waiting to O again!

[maria02]

Missed O this month as DH was away. Think I'll O again late Jan- early Feb


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[Ewpnx1]

i had ovulation mid week and due to hectic schedule only DTD twice so fingers crossed

[jillibeeen]

I tried swaying blue in Dec but got AF earlier this week. Gonna ovulate around the 19-21 of Jan. I've been taking FertileCM, drinking ACV water 3x a day, and eating lots of beef, bananas, and potatoes. Any tips on what else can be done to help body become more alkaline to sway blue? Fingers crossed for everyone TTC this month!

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[Ewpnx1]

there is heaps of info on this website under TTC blue section

[Ewpnx1]

spotting since 4 days AF should have arrived today but hasnt yet. Will wait untill 25th and do pregnancy test on 25h if AF doesnt arrive.HOw r u ladies going?

[maria02]

AF arrived Sunday, hoping this is our month! How about everyone else?


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[jillibeeen]

I'm 3dpo. Hoping for blue! Fx for all!

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[Ewpnx1]

AF arrived for me too..i think the supplements have mucked up my cycles.I get ovulation on day 14-15 but my luteal phase is only 10 days and i think thats making harder to conceive. Has anyone else had any issues with their cycles since been on supplements? i have stopped them for a month now...not happy

[maria02]

AF arrived for me too..i think the supplements have mucked up my cycles.I get ovulation on day 14-15 but my luteal phase is only 10 days and i think thats making harder to conceive. Has anyone else had any issues with their cycles since been on supplements? i have stopped them for a month now...not happy

Yes, EPO and green tea stuffed up my cycle. I don't even think I O'd the month I took EPO. I stopped them both last month and my cycle went back to normal (it was just a pity DH was away!!) Not going back on them again.


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[crazycatcouple]

Hi Ladies! So sorry I've been MIA lately. We ended up buying a house in December and decided to push off our attempt, as we were super stressed out with the move and just had too much going on. Then this month we ended up getting nasty sick, so decided to push off our attempt one more time, as they say being sick tends to sway pink :-(

So now we'll be starting our attempt in February. I'm expecting AF sometimes next week, and then it will be game on!!

I too have been taking EPO for the past few months, but have tested positive with ovulation test strips for the past 2 months, so hopefully that will continue and it won't mess me up too much. My cycle has definitely been slightly shorter than normal though since going on the supps.

Since getting over our sickness, I have been working out like a maniac, drinking tons of protein shakes and coconut water (yuck!), as well as the gelatin drink and V8. I'm not actually counting anything, but just trying to eat carbs and protein at every meal, and meat as much as possible.

How are you ladies feeling? My sister in law, who was also swaying blue, just got her BFP the other day, so fingers crossed it worked for her!! Hopefully some of you will get your BFPs soon too :-)

[Ewpnx1]

Hi, my cycles have been shorter too. I realised i was ovulating same times but LP shortened and that probably preventing getting PG.ANyways i Have realised stopping supplements no the solution as i have done one try stopping them and got AF. we need to take EPO from CD1 and stop at O and then dont take until AF arrives next time.ALso take fish oil of same strength with EPO to make it effective. The personalised plan gave me too many supplements but this month i am going to try with only taking EPO fish oil and normal muti vitamin lets see then what happenes. I dont exercise and havent followed much of diet but will see how i go this month. Good luck everyone i am still waiting my AF to finish.

[crazycatcouple]

Any updates ladies? We are on cycle day 9 right now and are planning our first attempt tonight and then every 2 days until O :-) Fingers crossed!!

[Ewpnx1]

wasnt a good month for me :( hubby was busy and we only had one attempt only on CD12 so dont know as i ovulate on CD16 :( so lets see. I will try next month. MY AF should be due around 20th Feb.

How about others?

[oncue]

Hi
I have 2 daughters and we are trying for a son. We will start trying this month. My period is due in the next few days, so following that I will use opks to confirm ovulation and we will give it a go! Fingers crossed for all of us! And hopefully lots of y sperm is about!

[Ewpnx1]

hi everyone..any news?

[oncue]

Hi Expnx, AF arrived for me on 15th Feb, so awaiting O now. This will be our first attempt, but I've only been on the HE diet for about 2 weeks now, not sure if it will be enough, but not sure if we will get a BFP either. Im struggling with the diet a bit, but doing my best. Fingers crossed!

[crazycatcouple]

We're on 6 or 7 DPO. I think I'll test sometime next week :-) I did notice a very tiny bit of spotting today and some minor cramps as well. Fingers crossed it's implantation bleeding!

I've been hanging out in the February 2WW forum here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/2ww-gathering-place/39546-february-2ww.html

There are a lot of ladies in the same boat as us over there :-)

[oncue]

ccc that def sounds like IB! Good luck! Hopefully be in the 2ww next week. Can't wait to hear how u go :)

[crazycatcouple]

Ewpnx1 did you end up getting AF?


wasnt a good month for me :( hubby was busy and we only had one attempt only on CD12 so dont know as i ovulate on CD16 :( so lets see. I will try next month. MY AF should be due around 20th Feb.

How about others?

[crazycatcouple]

Oncue, I only did the girl diet for 2 weeks last time we swayed, and it worked for us! I think they prefer you to do it for 4-6 weeks before an attempt, but we were impatient :-)

Hope to see you over on the 2ww board soon!

[oncue]

Oncue, I only did the girl diet for 2 weeks last time we swayed, and it worked for us! I think they prefer you to do it for 4-6 weeks before an attempt, but we were impatient :-)

Hope to see you over on the 2ww board soon!

We are impatient too! Not sure if that will work in our favor though! Hahah

[Ewpnx1]

Crazycatcouple my LMP was 22nd jan so today its been 33 days.for last 4 months my cycles have been 27-28 days.I usually start with spotting before periods always. No spotting so far.i did preg test yesterday and it was negative,I will do one again tomorrow and let you guys know. Fingers crossed.

[oncue]

Good luck ewpnx1! :)

[Ewpnx1]

not happy,, started spotting today.I tested and its negative pregnency.So waiting for my AF.I conceived my DD within 3 months.I dint do any OPK or anything last time and just conceived without any efforts.This time i know lots and i have been following personalised plan and its not working for me.I am thinkng of going to doc and gets my self tested.I think taking supps have ruined my hormonal balance.Anyone else following personalised plan?

[oncue]

Sorry to hear that Ewpnx1. Is it def AF? I haven't been taking any supps but I also haven't been swaying too long either. I got an early +opk which I think is unusual since starting the sway, so I'm holding out for a few days in the hope I actually am ovulating as normal. Hope ur ok. Hugs

[sarahsmith]

hey we tried to sway using shettles and just found out we're pregnant! 1st try...using shettles...ttc blue but will be happy with a healthy baby...

[oncue]

hey we tried to sway using shettles and just found out we're pregnant! 1st try...using shettles...ttc blue but will be happy with a healthy baby...

Congrats Sarah! That is such fantastic news! 😄

[Ewpnx1]

congrats Sarah lovely news :) Oncue i had been following personalised plan and was taking supps and its messing up my cycles.Yes My AF came on 24th. WIll try again this month but Ovulation is just so all over the place.

[Ewpnx1]

How did you go crazycatcouple?

[sarahsmith]

use wondfo for ovulation and another brand like clearblue. This is what we did 1) wondfo every day for three months to find out pattern in my ovulation.. found out I was ovulating on day 14 ..sometimes 17....so needed extra precise confirmation... as wondfo has two lines for determining ovulation LH hormone surge...not very accurate.. but combined with clearblue digital advanced..when wondfo line started to darken a bit.. i started testing using clearblue.. and found a solid happy face which means im peaking...so had hubby abstain for two days before, asked him to drink shot of black coffee 30 minutes prior, i had red glass of wine only 1, did visual stimulation for him ( lingerie and sexy videos) doggy style, deep penetration when he ejaculated...told him to hold his penis inside for 1 minutes after he ejaculated.. then lied down on my back for 30 minutes with pillow under... was eating lots of bananas and meat and potatoe, spinach and broccholi and was taking folic acid supplement only...no coffee for me ) took 1st response pregnancy and am 2 weeks :) hope it sticks.. i know it's temperamental... these damn pregnancies lol... in the 1st trimester.. will keep you guys informed to see if my sway worked... good luck to you too... this is my first baby and the reason i am trying to sway is cuz everyone i know minus two has had girls... 10 girls born and only 2 boys in my family and his... friends etc...

[crazycatcouple]

Congrats Sarah!! That's awesome that it happened so quickly for you :-) Sounds like you did a lot right for a boy, so fingers crossed it worked!

Ewpnx1 - Are you taking any b vitamins? I've heard those can lengthen your cycle. I'm sure taking a bunch of new supplements has to have some effect, but it's probably different for different people. Maybe try backing off of them and see if your cycle returns to normal. Have you asked Atomic about it? She might also have some insight on the specific supplements you're taking and what they can cause.

I am on CD 27 and 11 DPO and have had a BFN both yesterday and today. My normal cycle is usually right around 28 days with O at 14, but this cycle I too was a little off. I think I O'd on CD 16 instead, plus I'm taking some B vitamins, so I'm thinking my AF isn't scheduled to start until next week, even though it would normally be scheduled for Friday. So yeah...I'm hoping that the tests came back negative because it's still early with this longer cycle, but that's really just wishful thinking.

Yesterday I felt really pregnant and thought for sure I was, but then today, all my symptoms have seemed to disappear, so who knows :-( I'm trying to stay positive, yet at the same time prepare myself for not so good news and prep for another round. It just sucks. We've been taking supps and on the HE diet since the end of Oct, but just started trying this month because we kept pushing it back due to stress and other things going on in life. I've gained like 10 pounds and am starting to just feel crappy. I want to get back to eating and being myself, so I really wanted this to work. But I also know that it can take time so I need to be patient.

I think that if we don't get pregnant this time around, I may cut back slightly on the diet. I'll continue taking the supps for another month at least, but eating so much is making me feel gross. Of course, the supps are getting expensive too, so I may re-evaluate once they run out.

Oncue - you never know! Fingers crossed!!

[Ewpnx1]

Hi Crazy cat couple you sound so much like me..i am in the same boat.I asked atomic and i have dropped EPO now as this can mess up my cycle.I had been taking full on supps since end of august and trying since nov.NO success.Hubby has refused to take anymore supps :( i am only taking from feb on fish oil,vit d,foilc acid and mutivitamin.I am also reducing to eat as have gained 5 Kg and look so bad.I have heard something called Leptin produced in body due to constant snacking which can throw cycles out of whack.So i dont care now if its a girl.If this is how my body is dont want to change much.I have asked atomic re Leptin.Probably taking too many supps and eating casued cycles issues.AS body not used to of it.I dont get time to exercise due to work and DD.so lets see how i go this cycle.Atomic says can take 2 cyclec to wear off effect of EPO..:( lets see..

[oncue]

Crazycat it still sounds very promising. I wouldn't count you out in the slightest!
I have only been on the diet for coming up to 3 weeks now, and I'm feeling the same way as you and ewpnx1. I am not even going to weigh myself as I'm scared of how much I've gained! I already look plumper in such a short time and it is a bit depressing. DH and I said that if we weren't successful this month we would prob stop the diet too. I don't feel myself when eating this way. Haha so we don't really have the persistence! You girls have been doing great compared to me!
I'm not even sure if have ovulated yet also. So our chance may have already gone! I'm hoping my +opk on CD9 was a false surge and my true surge and O is yet to come In the next few days. I haven't been taking any supps apart from a prenatal vitamin plus folic, so I can't relate to that, but I really hope that BFPs are close for us all. It isn't easy changing what we are used to eating etc, but I suppose it's about the end result.
Positive thoughts for now I guess xo

[Ewpnx1]

Oncue dont even take the supps I would suggest.I think i wasted time,energy and money with supps.I would have conceived if if dint had supps.I think you are taking right things.But yes diet and exercise is imp i Guess but eventually its all about luck.My elder sister has 2 boys and younger has one boy.They dont do anything diff to me except they were always were bigger eater than i was.rest is same with all 3 of us.I have on DD.

[oncue]

Ewpnx1, I agree it can get expensive. Even things like coconut water and the extra food adds up. Hopefully it will give us good results. I guess we can feel negative if we don't get results, so just try stay positive. It will happen :)
I have 2 DDs and honestly they are amazing together! They are the best little friends and adore eachother, and it honestly is the most wonderful thing to watch them together. Once you do get ur BFP, if she ends up a girl u will still be delighted! We always knew we wanted 3 kids, so now we really would like a boy to complete the family. It's weird as my sisters also have boys, one is a bigger eater but the other is the tiniest, busiest woman who doesn't eat much at all. I'm hoping this change in diet is enough to convince my body it's boy friendly. I do really hope we both get BFPs soon and hopefully blue! Try stay positive, u've been doing great so far!

[Ewpnx1]

thanks Oncue for the lovely message.I am keeping positive and happy if next would be girl just need BFP now.I went to doc she said same be off EPO and only foic acid and vit D is enough.She said nothing to be concerned just going to still check FSH on CD5 ie tomorrow.

[oncue]

I agree with ur doc and wouldn't be concerned. It's normal for these things to take some time to happen. Just relax as much as you can too, I'm sure feeling anxious and stressed is only making it harder for ur body. CD5, wow cycles just fly by don't they!? U'l be back in action soon enough :)

[Ewpnx1]

HI ONcue i dint go for FSH testing as i googeld and it should be one CD3 so would do next month.Will do progesterone one week before expected next AF.How you going?I am CD7 will start testing with OPK from CD11.Any news Crazycatcouple?

[oncue]

Hey ewpnx1. I'm in CD16 today and got my +Opk this morning so we will see how it goes. DH was really keen on trying to see how we go with natural swaying so we will assess after this month to see what the next step is. I'm not a huge fan of the HE diet so don't know that I will continue on it. We are generally pretty healthy eaters so all the extra eating is making me feel pretty glum. Now I guess we have a 2ww. U aren't too far off in ur cycle either!

[Ewpnx1]

good luck Oncue.. wish you luck with your baby boy :)

[crazycatcouple]

Hi ladies! Sorry I've been MIA. Got AF on Saturday :-( So now we are starting over. We're going to stick with the HE diet for one more round, but if it doesn't happen this month, I think we may back off it a bit. I've now gained 10 lbs since starting it, and I cannot gain anymore or I will not be a happy person.

The silver lining is that now I can drink this weekend at a music festival we're going to, plus I will likely be ovulating right around my birthday, so that should make my birthday weekend quite fun ;-)

Oncue - the 2ww sucks, but I'm sure there are some nice ladies in the 2ww thread to help pass the time with :-) Fingers crossed you get a BFP!!

Ewpnx1 - what is FSH?

[oncue]

The silver lining is that now I can drink this weekend at a music festival we're going to, plus I will likely be ovulating right around my birthday, so that should make my birthday weekend quite fun ;-)


Hahah! I love this! Such a great way to embrace it all!
Hopefully u get some success this month!

It's bad, but now that I know ovulation has happened I'm back to my regular cardio and eating less (still healthy though!). I gained 7pound in such a short time and I feel gross! So I'm keen to just get back on track weight wise. DH and I are happy to wait and look at our options. If we don't get a BFP then we will start saving and see if we can do HT later this year. I don't think I can manage medium to long term HE diet and not gain too much weight. I prob sound silly but it is hard and I've only been doing it for 3-4weeks! So not even the ideal amount of time.

Can I ask have you all been using preseed with your attempts?

[crazycatcouple]

Yeah, I backed off the HE diet a bit during the 2ww as well, but now that my cycle has begun again, I'm trying to "get back on the horse" lol. I'm still taking all my supps (multi, folic acid, EPO, CO Q10, Brewer's yeast, D, probitoics, wheat grass, plus the gelatin drink and lots of V8), as for me that's the easy part, but the diet is tough. We've resorted to drinking a lot of protein shakes before and after my workouts, but the only ones that taste good have a lot of sugar in them. I find it's hard to get enough protein without either lots of sugar or lots of fat - hence all the weight gain, lol. Plus, it doesn't help that my hubby is a sweet eater and gains weight in all the good ways, while I... don't :-)

Oncue - yes, we used preseed for all our attempts last time, although we found that sometimes it was "too much". If there's too much and no friction, hubby has a hard time, so we didn't use quite as much as Atomic recommended for that reason. I think I've heard that for some women taking EOP dries them out, so preseed would be beneficial, but for me that was not the case.

I used a lot of my ovulation test strips on the last round, so I just ordered another pack through Amazon. It was depressing ordering 50 ov tests and 20 pregnancy tests, as I'm really hoping we won't need to use all of those, but it was cheaper that way. Hoping this will be THE round!

[Ewpnx1]

Hi Crazycatcouple FSH means Folicular stimulating hormone. I have stopped all supplements just having folic acid that not too very regular sort of lost interest there.I am eating normal lil on the high side but not cutting back on calories.I agree with you Preseed i used in 3 cycles and it just made too wet and hubby doesnt like it.Will see this month as i have stopped EPO as it messes up cycles big time. I also agree with ovulation strips i ordered them last month..i have about half left will be enough for this month.I will see how i go this month with all this..WIll start doing OPK from tomorrow as I am CD11 on thursday.Good luck with attempts around birthday ;)
Oncue: good luck with everything..i find 2WW very stressful.Wish you luck.How
Oncue: wish wou luck :) what is HT?

[oncue]

Thanks guys for the preseed info. We used it too and our thoughts were the same as both of you. I guess for this month Time will tell.
Ewpnx1, HT is high tech. So we will consider going for IVF with gender selection if we don't get a BFP. I'm not too sure though. It's a bit of $. We would have to save up, but I guess we will see how it goes this month though before we decide. I just know the diet isn't really for me right now.
Will keep u posted! :)

[treens]

Hi ladys its been a long time since i was on here! So i have been trying to eat on the HE diet since October sigh... We are now on attempt number 4 for march. This month i am not taking any supplements other than folic acid and prenatal. Trying to eat on the HE diet still and going to go to the gym again this month. I tried not to around around the 2ww last cycle and that didnt work.

First month we tried Shelters method, 2nd month we tried every 36 hours, last month we did it every day. So this month we will do it when we want wich will be every day for hubby.

He had a SI done and he is normal so i am going to see my dr. now and see if its me.

I feel like we are doing everything right and still not pregnant. Only time will tell

Goodluck all I hope its our months!!!

Are any of you following the Chinese gender chart? I know there are lots of different ones but the one i found was correct for my last 3 kids so we are trying to follow it too. So we will try this month skip next and try again in May. It says for me Dec, Jan, Feb , March, May , sep. our boys for us. So if this isn't our month we will skip next then just keep trying after that.

[oncue]

Hi again treens! Regarding the gender chart I'm not convinced, but I definitely did consult it haha! It was correct for both my girls and apparently I can conceive blue in the same months as u! Are u 34/35?
I am not sure if we will get a BFP, wasn't sure if I have done enough aswell to sway. I guess I have about 12 days before I can test.
What cycle day are you on at the moment?

[treens]

July 29, 1980 is my bday i think the chart i used makes your birthday as 1 not 0.

I am on CD4, 4th month trying.

[oncue]

Hi treens I'm feb 1980 so yes it makes me 1 at birth so 35 according to the chart. Our boy months are exactly the same haha.
Are u managing ok on the diet etc after 4 months? Hopefully this is the month!

[treens]

I am doing pretty good but i would love some chocolate ice cream right now lol I really try the week of O to be a good girl! How many months have you been trying for?

[oncue]

I always have a small piece of dark chocolate each day with a green tea. Satisfies the sweet tooth! I've only been trying for a month.

[Ewpnx1]

Good luck Treens can you share the link to chinese gender chart no harm in trying..I am 30th Nov 1983 :)
Oncue: i was thinking of HT but when i read about IVF i felt it seems Painful and expensive. But i might consider it. do you know if we find any info about HT cost etc on this site anywhere? Natural swaying has no guarantee ,No harm having some info and doing some research on this topic. I am CD 10 today lets see how we go this month. Good luck to all of us.

[oncue]

Hey ewpnx1. Yep there's heaps of info on HT. It's in the forum called: High tech family balancing (just look under forums). Heaps of info about procedure, costs, different clinics, all thanks to the lovely ladies who share their journeys. I guess there's a gamble with natural (whether u get preg and with ur DG) and HT if it's successful and if so how many attempts. Read a few of the threads about some peoples experiences. Personally I think it's prob worth a shot at a guaranteed gender, more of a cost issue and will it work. The one thing that I've come to find from others experiences is that the younger u are the better it is. We looked at the costs etc and I guess long term would could deal with the initial outlay to have a boy. I guess we have 2dd's so we'd like a blue outcome. We would just need to save and ofcourse wait to see if I get a BFP and whether the sway worked! All very stressful hahaha.

[oncue]

Google Chinese gender chart and there's a few links there. It's fun to check it out. CD10, that's great. Seriously how fast does time fly! :)

[treens]

This is the chart i used Ancient Chinese Gender Predictor (http://www.thelaboroflove.com/chart/pred.html)

If i have something sweet i have protein with it i think its suppose to help. So if i have a chocolate chip cookie i eat a table spoon of peanut butter lol

What cd are you ladies? I am CD5

[Ewpnx1]

thanks Treens for sharing the link will have a look for fun for sure. Oncue: I had a look at HT and I am in australia so only close is Thailand. COst is one big issue lets see how we go. Where are you located and which clinic would be close to you?

[oncue]

Hi ewpnx1, we r Aussie too and we wld choose Thailand too - if it came to that. Maybe treat it as a bit of a family holiday. See how this month goes. There are a few Aussie girls cycling there, and it's great to read their stories (so grateful they share their experiences) as it helps to learn about it all. I contacted the clinic there and they actually work with a clinic in Sydney so u can get ur initial stuff done in aus the fly over for transfers etc.

[Ewpnx1]

Hi Oncue thanks for the info..can i join any of these threads that you have mentioned above about girls cycling in Thailand?

[oncue]

Hi Oncue thanks for the info..can i join any of these threads that you have mentioned above about girls cycling in Thailand?

Hi ewpnx1
I've been following and reading a few of the ladies' different cycles at a few clinics but these are a few to look at from the SART clinic in Thailand :)


http://genderdreaming.com/forum/international-ht-family-balancing/40440-wishingforpink-bfp-fet-1-sart.html#post540499

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/international-ht-family-balancing/26134-cycling-sart-thailand.html

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/international-ht-family-balancing/36821-any-aussies-heading-sart-thailand-2014-a.html

[Ewpnx1]

thanks ONcue for sharing te links. It seems it doesnt happen in one cycle! have you researched the cost of one cycle? Does DH has to go too?I am baffeled with info and its quite complicated..

[oncue]

Yeah it doesn't always happen in one cycle. Basically from what I have found out the initial cost is prob around 13-15k and then u wld most likely get a fresh transfer. if you end up freezing extra embryos and the fresh one didn't 'stick' you pay about 3-4k to have a frozen embryo transferred. That's my understanding. Obviously u pay to get there and accomodation etc on top. DH really only has to go once at the start to drop some sperm off. That way if you need to cycle again most likely he doesn't have to go. If we get a BFP this month, I'll def be looking into this a lot more, so hopefully can tell u more. See how we go xo

[treens]

Hows everyone doing? Im CD 9

[oncue]

Hi Treens, I'm 7dpo. Will prob poas on Sunday which will make it 12dpo. How you going with the diet etc?

[crazycatcouple]

Hi ladies and welcome back Treens! I'm CD 10, so we're right there together :-)

I started doing my OPKs today and am taping them to a piece of paper and noting the day/time of each. That way I can see the line getting progressively darker. I haven't been temping at all, so I need to rely heavily on the OPKs, so watching them closely this month.

Last time we DTD a lot, and started pretty early in the cycle, so this time I think we're going to hold off a little longer and do less attempts, but hopefully with the right timing so that DH's boys are super healthy and ready to swim, lol.

Yesterday was DH"s birthday, so I used that as the cutoff - no more releasing of any sort until our attempt :-) I'm thinking we'll likely start on CD 12, do one attempt then, and then wait until I get a positive OPK to do 3 attempts back to back at that time. I usually get a positive okp right around CD 14 or 15.

I know I shouldn't be too anxious, as a lot of people don't get pregnant right away, but I'm really hoping this time works. This diet is wearing on me...been on it since Oct :-(

[crazycatcouple]

Oh, and I just checked out the Chinese Gender Chart... boo :-( According to that, there is only 1 month this entire year that I could get a boy. I guess this is the year for girls for those my age, lol. It's April though, so I suppose there's a shot. But it's definitely not going to stop me from trying this month as well, especially since it was wrong for when we conceived our daughter!

[Boysway]

Hey there ladies. I have been lurking for a while and thought I would finally introduce myself. As you can see by my sig, I have 4 girls (including one watching over us). We are swaying for a boy, hence the reason I am in here, lol. This will be our last baby, regardless of gender. I haven't posted in here because I am in the April/May/June attempt group. I thought I might post in here as well.

I have finally just begun a new cycle. My last cycle lasted 42 days after a false ovulation. I have been on the supps since January, I came off the Mirena implant (not coil) on the 21st of January. I have also been in the diet since January although I have 'fallen off the wagon' numerous times :(

Currently day 4 of my new cycle. Strangely, the lead up to AF was pretty much not existent compared to the past. In the past, I got sore boobs, cramps, really bad mood swings, exhaustion, fluid retention and chocolate cravings. AF is also usually heavy lasting 7-9 days (when not on BC). This time, it lasted just 3 days and not heavy at all. Very few PMS symptoms. I asked Atomic about this and it looks like it's a good sign :D Our first attempt is next month. So excited and nervous at the same time :D

Blue Baby dust for all :D

[oncue]

Hi boysway! Great to hear from you! Yes the diet can be tricky! It's good that you are sticking to it, hopefully some blue for u next month! :)

[crazycatcouple]

Yes, welcome bluesway! It sounds like you're doing everything right :-)

[treens]

Diet is hard. I feel fat LOL I can't wait to get prego so i can eat better!

Cool crazycatcouple, I hope it all works for you!

Welcome Boysway! goodluck

Oncue- I cant wait till sunday for you!!!

[oncue]

Haha thanks treens! It's weird as when we tried for our other LO's I was testing all the time. This time I am actually feeling patient and not thinking much about it. Will keep you all posted!

[Boysway]

treens, I hear you. I am the heaviest I have ever been. I was just saying to a work mate the other day how I can't wait till I can be off this diet. It's hard trying to remember to eat all the time and to eat carbs with protein at every meal. The most difficult thing for me seems to be remembering morning and afternoon tea.

I think next month I will need to make containers with the food I need to eat for morning tea through to afternoon tea. Just so I know I am eating right. I also need to make a note of what I need to drink.

Good luck oncue :)

[Boysway]

would you look at that, post 111 on page 11 :D

Yes, I am one of 'those' people who see 1111 every where, lol.

[Ewpnx1]

Hi all, Welcome Boysway to this thread :)
Oncue thans for the info on HT yes let me know any further info.
Crazy Cat i am also as per gender chart can have boy in april and rest whole year girl but its wrong for my daughter so it wont stop me either with trying this year. I am CD 17 but starnegly couldnt have much trying as hubby was busy i got quiet tired with work and LO..anyways will see..i have stopped diet,supps everything and will see how things work,,cant be bothered...

[treens]

I think i just got a positive OPK :D

[Boysway]

Good luck treens :D

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[treens]

I think i ovulated this AM. :) got my personalized plan yesterday haha

Think i am doing pretty good anyway but now i know what more to do if this isnt our month :)

[oncue]

Yay treens! Hopefully this is ur month! X

[Ewpnx1]

hi all what's everyone is upto?

[Boysway]

Not much going on here. I am about to head off to nightshift. I'm also battling a head cold. I hope it's gone soon. We are hoping to have our first attempt next month.

How are you?

[Ewpnx1]

my DD is not well rest is good..i m CD22.not much hopes this month i have still one week for AF to arrive..i m going for progesterone level check on wed just to rule out any fertility issues :( dont know how long it takes for results..will keeep all of u updated :)

[crazycatcouple]

Oncue...any news?

Treens, we're right with you - so I'm assuming you guys had your attempt and are now officially in the 2ww as well? I hate this part, but I'm going to try and not worry about it too much. Crossing my fingers for us!!

Ewpnx1 - I hope your DD feels better!

[Boysway]

Good luck with your results Expnx1

[oncue]

Hey crazy, I'm out. AF arrived yesterday & has been so heavy! I've completely stopped the diet. We are now deciding whether to take the ht road so are starting to save to see how much we can put away maybe for a June cycle. Hoping u get a BFP xo

[Boysway]

:( oncue. Good luck with whatever you decide :)

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[Ewpnx1]

hi all...Oncue: HT in June sounds like a plan.. Please keep us updated because I amy plan that in future if things dont work out here.. Crazy cat daughter is better but now i m down with cold huh..Boysway: thanks but i am not hopeful as we had only one attempt in fertile period..My AF should be due in 1 week.

[crazycatcouple]

Oncue - so sorry to hear that! If you can swing HT, I say go for it!! I'll be thinking about you in June - keep us posted :-)

Ewpnx1 - glad your daughter is feeling better, but it sucks it went around to you :-( That's how it generally travels in our house too, unfortunately. At least it waited to get to you until after your attempt though, as I think getting sick beforehand and not being able to eat enough on the diet and such is not so good for blue, but I would think that getting sick after the deed is done shouldn't effect it much. Fingers crossed! And you never know, even with just 1 attempt... that's all we did with our daughter and it worked.

[treens]

Yep in the 2ww :) i think im 4 dpo

[Boysway]

good luck treens :D

[treens]

Thanks. My husband asked me when i could test and i was like a week or so... And then i said I feel normal though and he was like maybe thats a good sign for the last 3 months you were convinced you were pregnant lol

[Boysway]

Rofl, husbands! Once we make our attempt I hope I get the same symptoms as last time. I kid you not, I had painful and slightly bigger breasts starting from 6-7 DPO with miss almost 4.

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[Ewpnx1]

i dont think i have conceived this cycle slight spotting n CD26 time for AF :(

[Boysway]

:( *hugs*

[Ewpnx1]

thanks Boysway.. AF arrived yesterday as expected. Going to get my FSH done tomorrow to see if everything is ok fertility wise. Will discuss with GP this week lets see how we go this month..FIgers crossed.Also getting hubby to go to Doc and get sperm count sometime this week..I know 5 months of trying isnot long but i want to rule out any issues before hand and dont want to get disappointed each month..hows everyone else going..Any news from Crazycatcouple and Treens?Have u started trying Boysway? Oncue have u got more info on HT?

[crazycatcouple]

Ewpnx1 - sorry to hear that AF arrived :-( 5 months is not long, but at the same time, why not be proactive, right?

We are still in the 2ww - 9 DPO today. I've taken 3 tests so far and all are BPNs, but I suppose it's still fairly early. I have been using the cheapy tests, but have 3 FRERs to use that I'm going to test with on 10 and 12 DPO then save the last in case I get a BFP on a cheapy to use for confirmation :-)

I'm really trying not to symptom spot this time, as I don't want to get my hopes up. Last month I was sure I was pregnant, but no such luck, so this time I'm trying not to read into anything. Although, even having said that, I am extremely tired today. I took the morning off work and slept till 11am, even thought I went to bed before 10pm yesterday. So...maybe, but that's pretty much the only possible symptom, so we shall see! Sending blue baby dust your way everyone!!

[Boysway]

Ewpnx1, I hope you find you answer and it's easily sorted.

crazycatcouple, fingers crossed this is your month :)

AFM, we start ttc next month. I am feeling very nervous but, very excited. I had a very clear +OPK today so, hopefully next month it will be a nice easy +OPK again. Last months cycle was crazy. It went for 42 days. I had the LH surge on day 18 but, didn't ovulate till day 30.

[treens]

11dpo holding out till tomorrow to test.

[Boysway]

treens, hats off to you for your strength. I hope I have the same strength when my turn comes around. Fingers crossed for your bfp :)

[oncue]

Ewpnx1 sorry AF arrived. I know how frustrating it is for you, hope ur tests give u some answers. We stopped trying for now, are thinking HT in may or June.

Good luck treens and ccc, looking forward to hearing how ur tests go! Fingers crossed xo

[Ewpnx1]

HI BOysway good luck for next month. I have doc appt on Friday and thats when i get results.
Crazycat: good luck hope this month is your months and its blue :)
Treens: good luck to you too. You and Crazycat are tracking along lol
Oncue: good plan.keep us posted :)I would have gone HT if it could be 100% in first go as its lot of money..culd afford for one go but if it doesnt happen in first i wont be able to afford it..keep us posted

[treens]

BFN today on internet test. 12dpo hoping its just too early. I have a 28-31 day cycle and im on CD 25.

[crazycatcouple]

Treens, I feel you :-( I'm 11 DPO today and got another BFN too. One of the things that's keeping me positive this go round is the theory that girls produce more HCG early on, while boys produce less. This theory has been proven to be true, however you still really can't use it to predict gender, as the circles overlap way too much. There are many girls that produce less HCG and many boys that produce more, however in total, girls tend to produce more. So... not really counting on it, but still using it to get excited - a later BFP *could* mean boy :-)

I got my BFP with my daughter around 9 or 10 DPO, so I'm still crossing my fingers that I'll get one later this time and that it might actually mean boy :-) Who knows, but I sure as heck don't mind wishing and hoping!

Have you had any symptoms? I don't remember having much of any with my daughter this early on, so I'm trying not to read too much into anything. I was overly tired the other day and felt like I had a harder time catching my breath at the gym this morning. Oh, and I had a sex dream the other night, which I remember having a ton of while pregnant, lol. Other than that, not much here, but I think I'm okay with that. Last month my breasts were really sore about a week before AF, but nothing this month, so maybe that's actually a good thing. Who knows. Just trying to stay positive, but it's going to be harder and harder the more months we have to do this :-(

[Ewpnx1]

hopefully this is the month for you Crazycat and Treens :)I went to doc today and results are normal.Doc says dont stress and think about having baby rather enjoy the phase..she thinks i am too stressed with this issue for nothing..anyways basically keep trying thats all we have to do..kind of hard when i have a hubby who is super busy and hardly has time huh

[Boysway]

Yay for normal results :) that's wonderful.

I'm happy, I got perfect cross hairs on FF which means I did ovulate. Now, if my cycle can behave next month it will be all good as I will be due almost mid January, if successful.

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[treens]

Well AF came friday 2 days early :( So I am now CD3 month #5 trying. I think we are just going to see how it goes for a few months

[icesfire]

treen 12dpo was way too so for me to test even when I was pregact with twins. Ever preganct I had do not show till 21dpo so dont give up hope, I been preganct 6 times.

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[Boysway]

Aww :( sorry treens. Fingers crossed next month is your month.

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[Ewpnx1]

good luck to all of us for this month..

[crazycatcouple]

Yeah, AF came for me as well :-( I am now cd 3, but we've actually decided to sit this month out. We have a lot going on this month, plus we're worried it could end up being a Christmas baby, which we'd rather avoid. So...May is the month for us, fingers crossed!! And this way I can take this month to try and get my weight under control again - I'm just going to do supps, but not eat quite so much this month. Then next month we'll gear up again.

I'll be thinking of all of you ladies this month! Baby dust to you all!!

[Boysway]

Crazycat and treens, sorry to hear AF came along :( Fingers crossed for next attempt :)

I am getting nervous, AF should arrive in a week which will officially make it out ttc cycle eeeep! So nervous!

[Ewpnx1]

good luck Boysway for this month.

[Boysway]

Thank you Ewpnx1 :)

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[crazycatcouple]

Good luck Boysway! Try and have fun too ;-) I won't be attempting this month, but I'll keep checking back here, and I hope to see a few BFPs from you ladies!

[sarahsmith]

Congrats Sarah! That is such fantastic news! 😄

thank you so much!

[sarahsmith]

Blue baby dust to you!!! Let me know what happens... am a blue swayer as well.. am about 9 weeks now... so should find out in about 9 more weeks if the sway worked or less

[crazycatcouple]

Yes, please keep us posted Sarah!

[Boysway]

*TMI* I have some eggwhite cm today. I did an OPK earlier today and the second line had more colour in it then it should have. I'll do another OPK later today see what happens with that.

This is very frustrating if I get a +OPK today. I will have to speak to atomic about it. How am I supposed to know if I have actually ovulated to plan things. 2 out of 8 cycles I have had a +OPK then, 9 days later (with both of them) I have had another +OPK with ovulation actually happening. One of these cycles is the cycle I fell pregnant with Miss almost 4.


It's all good, OPK wasn't any darker...phew!

[Ewpnx1]

I am CD12 tomorrow.Will start takng OPK now.Lets see how we go this month..Keep us posted Sarahsmith.did u strictly sway with atomic's plan?just curious..I am not swaying anymore.I have stopped all supplements 3 months back and just doing what i did with my DD..normal lifestyle basically..Will see how we go i think i more want a pregnancy not concerned about gender anymore.

[Ewpnx1]

has anyone else found OPK confusing?mine said positive on CD13 and negative on CD14. We are trying anyways will take one more tomorrow to see.My cycles have ranged form 27-33 days in last 6 months so i will keep trying until CD18-19 as i dont think beyond that ovulation should take place.I am not trusting the OPK this time much.

[Boysway]

Ewpnx1, if you did ovulate on CD 13, you should have a negative the following day. Fingers crossed for you :)

Some people can be different with OPK's. My body is frustrating. A few days before a +OPK my OPK'S will gradually get darker till ovulation. After ovulation, the OPK'S get lighter. However, it's more frustrating because I occasionally get an ovulation trigger but don't ovulate at that time.

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[Ewpnx1]

i got a dark OPK today which is confusing.CD13 dark then lght on CD14 and then dark today on CD15. We are making attempts every 2-3 days regardless so i have changed the strategy lol this month as i was relying heavily on OPK in last cycles and no luck so lets see.

[Boysway]

Hmm, that is strange. Are you able to put up pics of the OPK'S?

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[Ewpnx1]

well just saw your post..well it was dark again today on Cd16. will see how we go..planning on attempts today tomorrow n CD18..will then go into 2ww as i dont think my ovulation will be after CD18.let see

[Boysway]

good luck Ewpnx1!

[Ewpnx1]

hws everyone? boysway when do you start TTC?
i have one more week of waiting its tough i m keeping busy to keep mind off this...

[Boysway]

Fingers crossed for a bfp for you Ewpnx1 :) This is our TTC month. Ovulation should be around the 26-30th of April.

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[Ewpnx1]

good luck boysway :)yes hoping but not keeping high hopes too due to last few months of gettin hopes high n then no result

[Boysway]

Thanks Ewpnx1 :) fingers crossed you don't get let down this time xx

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[Ewpnx1]

Hi BOysway i tested on CD29 and it was BFN,, havnt got my preiods yet..fingers crossed. I will test agin tomorrow which is CD32.I did get very slight strak of spotting on wiping yesetrday but nothing today.. i am afraid if AF coming as i usualy get spotting but i was weird not to get any spotting today? has anyone had any such experience? I am afraid its BFN again tomorrow..i am sort od scared to test even :((

[Boysway]

I have had that before. Hopefully it's implantation spotting. Surely it's too early for AF. Fingers crossed AF stays away :)

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[Ewpnx1]

AF will arrive :(((( i guesss as BFN again today

[Boysway]

:( :hugs:

[Ewpnx1]

hmm thanks how are you going with trying? i am having strange cycle. SPotted in morning BFN on testing and now no AF so far.. probably they would start tomorrow.. they say when you really desperate to be preggo body gets signals and this can happen :((

[Boysway]

I really hope Af stays away and is replaced by your bfp xxx

Afm, we still haven't started bd for the start of our sway attempt and poor dh has been so tired lately. Actually, I am feeling a little nervous. I usually get LH fade in around 4 days before ovulation. Nothing so far. Hopefully I am just being impatient. Ovulation should be around the 26-27th so, this weekend. Hopefully tomorrow I will start the fade in. Mind you though, it's no use get a fade in OPK or even a +OPK if we don't BD :(

[Ewpnx1]

AF arrived for me today.. I am getting really frustrated its been 6 months of trying it was 3 months with my daughter. Hubby is getting stressed too.. I had tests as i mentioned in this thread earlier and they were fine..GP said not to be stressed but how on earth not to be stressed?My hubby is going for semen test too if i can persuade him to do it asap..
good luck with BDing BOysway

[Boysway]

Awww Ewpnx1 :( Huge hugs xxx i hope you find answers that are easily solved.

Thanks for the good luck wishes :)

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[Boysway]

I hope things change around for us. Dh had shall I say performance anxiety. Then when we tried again he got a leg cramps. Me, I have anxiety. Breathless, racing heart, feeling sick :( This TTC stuff shouldn't be like.this.

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[Ewpnx1]

good luck boysway.. it ca be stressful..especially when you have to do it again and again

[Boysway]

Just tried again :( no luck. Hubby is depressed and said it looks like this (a baby) just won't be happening :(

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[Ewpnx1]

oh it can be stressful for men..same with my hubby...he is so busy at work and hardly has time to relax and hence the issues i guess..do you have four girls Boysway?how old are they?

[Boysway]

Yes, four girls including my SIDS angel. Miss B is 13, Miss T will be 9 in June and Miss A is 4.

Well, we managed one attempt the night before my +OPK. Let's hope that does the trick. It's been a very emotional time and has resulted in a couple of d&m's with hubby and I and me in tears this morning. I don't want to think of how I will be if we get months down the track without a bfp.

Huge :hugs: for you Ewpnx1.

[Ewpnx1]

good luck Boysway.. all it takes is one sperm but i dont know why it gets so hard..hehehe..

[Boysway]

Thanks Ewpnx1, fingers crossed your next cycle turns into your bfp.

I finally got my crosshairs. FF put my ovulation at day 21 when I got my +OPK on day 19. I did a manual override to put ovulation on day 20. I know why FF put ovulation at day 21 though. My temp was 36.19 the day before +OPK. Day of +OPK temp went up to 36.32 next day it dropped to 36.25 then jumped up to 36.41 the following day.

I am worried we now have an even smaller chance at a bfp. We only bd the night before my +OPK. I am hoping my +OPK at 6:55am meant that I ovulated Sunday night. I actually had a small amount of spotting and some blood tinged cm on the Sunday afternoon. I am hoping that was a sign of ovulation as that is something I have never experienced around ovulation.

[Ewpnx1]

thanks boysway..good luck..hope it was ovulaton..m hubby has low sperm and motility results out so he has been given spps n test in 6 weeks..well now i know y bfn for 6 months..kind of sad but know i need to wait this cycle

[Boysway]

That definitely explains bfn. Fingers crossed things move along now you have answers xxx

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[Ewpnx1]

yes lets see.. how we go..how r others going no news from others!!

[Boysway]

Yes, it's just been us chatting for a while. I had been wondering where everyone else was.

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[Boysway]

My temp has gone right down. It looks like AF will arrive some time soon.

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[Ewpnx1]

Wait it tough i hate waiting n so many thoughts happen in that 2ww. I am CD 18 but no sign of opk getting positive. But i had awkward periods this time so probably late ovulation can be sign of that.

[Boysway]

Good luck :) I'm out :(

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[Ewpnx1]

dont know but this cycle is really odd..no positive opk so far..CD21 !!!!!

[Boysway]

Did you end up getting your +OPK?

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[Ewpnx1]

YES i did finally but only one attempt we made on that day so now waiting lets see..what you upto?

[crazycatcouple]

Hi ladies! Mind if I jump back into the convo? I was seriously hoping there would be no one left in here!!

Ewpnx1 - I know it's not exciting news, but the fact that you found out the reason for your 6 months of bfn's is good. Hopefully once the supps kick in for hubby, you will have a better chance!

Boysway - I'm hoping this month will be it for you!! Fingers crossed!

We had a couple of stressful months where we decided it wasn't worth doing an attempt due to stress and not being very good with our sway diet, etc. But June we will begin trying again :-)

It's hard because I know why we decided to wait, but I'm already starting to get bummed about how far apart our children are going to be. I just wish we were pregnant already!! I *think* I should get AF on Tuesday, and with a usual ovulation on day 14 or 15, that will put our attempt right near the end of a beach vacation with friends, lol. I'm not sure how that's going to work since we'll be sharing our bed with our 3 year old daughter, but we shall see :-) Plus, it's going to be tough to stay strict on the HE diet while on vacation! But I'm sick of waiting and we can't keep pushing it off or it will never happen.

[Boysway]

Ewpnx1, ooo fingers crossed for you :) I am on CD 11. Hopefully ovulation should be the 30th of this month.

Good luck crazycatcouple. This TTC business is difficult and stressful. Let's hope none of us are here for much longer.

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[Ewpnx1]

welcome back crazy catcouple..good to see u back..yes its stressfull this TTC buisness..i have loosley tried this month as my cycles were really disturbed plus the stress.. so me too waiting for june..thinking of organising some holidays too but my ovulation is so unpredictable..Boysway:i really wish we all get successful in asap but i would love to still chat to u guys here :)

[Boysway]

Fingers and toes crossed for all of us :) If I ovulate on day 19, ovulation should be in 4 days. Ewpnx, if we all get our positives, we can be in the same due in group :D

[Ewpnx1]

oh yes makes sense..lets see how we go..going tough for now..

[Boysway]

I hope you have a wonderful holiday crazycatcouple :)

[Boysway]

Well, this month was a write off. We tried three times. Morning of +OPK, night of and following morning. No luck on dh's behalf :(

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[Ewpnx1]

hmm that makes it tough..my AF arrived to day so feeling low..thinking of going to fertility clinic after taking referral from GP as i am keen to have second baby asap..this monitoring of cycles and timing etc is annoying especially when i m doing this for last 7 months..TTC is getting tough..

[Boysway]

:hugs: it wouldn't hurt if you feel that will help you move things along faster. This was only month 2 of us trying. I can't think of how we will be that far down the track. Our last bub took 6 months to conceive. I don't remember things being this tough :(

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[Ewpnx1]

yes boysway cant understand it..y its happening..i sort of know that hubby has low count and i know my periods have been irregular so i guess better i get help..i want two only and i dont care f its girl next time too..i just want my DD some company and i dont want too big of a gap..

[Boysway]

Hopefully your bfp is just around the corner. I understand where you are coming from with time between siblings. There was only 16 months between my eldest and my SIDS angel. It was busy but, good. There is almost 4 1/2 years between #1 and #3, almost 5 years between #3 and #4. At this rate there will be 5 years between our youngest and our next :(

[Ewpnx1]

in your case you have them doesnt matter the gap..here i have been trying to avoid the gap and that's y started trying when my DD was 17 months but i am celebrating 2nd birthday for her this month..i sort of wanted 2-2.5 difference..now don't know where we are heading..will plan for GP visit after her birthday to get a referral for fertility help as i don't want to keep going like this forever and i know we might have issues which may need treatment. I suspect i have low progesterone as i get my periods in 11-12 days after ovulation and i have done some research it can cause issues in falling pregnent

[Boysway]

I'm sorry if I came across as insensitive, I didn't mean to. Are you able to book an appointment now? That way you know it's booked and you won't have to wait. I hope your little lady has a special birthday :)

[Ewpnx1]

no no you were right.. i was trying to say i wanted less gap but now doesnt matter..i will see gp after her brithday

[Boysway]

Oh good. I re-read my reply and it didn't sound how I meant it to. I tend to ramble at times then, re-read later and find it doesn't sound how I wanted, lol. Hopefully you will get somewhere with talking to the gp :)

[Boysway]

Speak to a GP anyway but, I get AF anywhere between 11-14 days so I wouldn't worry too much about that side of things.

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[Boysway]

That's meant to say I get AF 11-14 days after ovulation.

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[Ewpnx1]

oh ok i was getting woried if i have low progestrone as i get between 11-14 days too which isnt good for keeping pregnencies i have heard. Anyways CD10 so going to start checking OPK form tomorrow. Feeling bit positives this month after all the negativities.Tyring to keep my cool and leaving it on god and luck. Has anyone used preseed? Atomic talks about it alot and says it sways blue. My hubby doesnt like it as i am already quiet ok there and its gets too much..you guys know what i mean lol

[Boysway]

I think it's more anything below 10 is a concern for LP. I have the Preseed as part of my sway plan. I insert a small amount about the size of a thumb nail (maybe a little more) for 5 days leading up to ovulation. Then I use double that for the attempt. Unfortunately first attempt I forgot to use it. Second attempt bd didn't happen so I don't know if there would have been too much moisture. In saying that, I sometimes have trouble in that department (without the supps).

I'm still waiting for a new cycle to begin. I didn't ovulate till CD 21, FF is predicting AF will start in four days. I just want this cycle to be over with!

Wishing you huge good luck Ewpnx1 :)

[Ewpnx1]

i had same sorot of cycle in may very frustrating..tommorow DD bday so all geared up for the fun :)

[Boysway]

Grrr, stuppoo

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[crazycatcouple]

Ewpnx1, how was DD's birthday celebration? My DD's was 2 weeks ago, but her 3rd. I completely understand how you're feeling on the age gap stuff. I always wanted kids about 3 years apart, but now we'll be lucky if it's 4 years :-( I've heard that 6 years or more is like being an only child to them, which I'd like to avoid.

Boysway, how do you feel about the larger age gaps with your daughters? Do you have any positives we can focus on? That's what I'm trying to do - find the positives and try and not think about the negatives...

Oh, and did you end up getting AF Boysway? I'm assuming you would have posted if you got a BFP, but maybe you're just too excited to think about us right now, lol. Fingers crossed that's the case!

I also get AF about 10-12 days after O. I was concerned at one point and thought about taking vitamin B supplements, which is supposed to lengthen the luteal phase, but I know Atomic does not suggest that, so I figured I'd wait another round or two first.

We just had our attempt last week - only 3 attempts as well, but it was at the very end of our vacation, so I'm hoping the relaxation from that helps scoot those boys along ;-) This is our 3rd month TTCing. I think if it doesn't happen this time, I'll likely give it another month before I go talk to a doctor about it. Expnx1, I would love to hear what they tell you when you go, if you don't mind.

[Ewpnx1]

Hi Crazycat, when i went there after 6 months of TTC they ordered some blood tests for me like FSH progesterone TSH etc..n sperm count for hubby. His count came low which understandable as its not much fun to ejaculate without regualr studd lol..anyways i am waiting for this month..we did tried as i ovulated on my DD bday and we did make 4-5 attempts leading upto O day so lets see..if it doesnt work this time GP did tell me he would be happy to write a referral yo fertility clinic..so i will wait for 2 weeks and if nothing will try to go get help as i dont want to wait too long now..i have been trying off and on for 6 months.. when is AF due for you guys?

[Boysway]

Lol. Sorry about that last message. I was having trouble with my phone. I didn't realise it had posted.

Ewpnx, I hope your dd had a lovely birthday :)

crazycatcouple, I'm the same as you guys and I preferred a close age gap which is why dd#1 and #2 were so close in age. Ex and I started trying for #2 pretty much as soon as dd#1 was 6 weeks old. Unfortunately dd#2 passed away due to SIDS at 5months old and I didn't want to try right away for another baby.

So, for me the only reason I have the age gaps is due to circumstances out of my control for the most part. DD#4 is my husbands first child and we got together when dd#3 was 1 1/2 years old. I didn't want a baby right away. The reason there will be a bigger gap between dd#4 and whenever we get a bfp this time around is because dd#4 was a difficult baby and I didn't come around to the idea of another baby till she was about 2 1/2-3 years old (she was 4 in April).

Yep, no bfp for me :( There were some 'performance' anxieties so nothing happened :( Af is just finishing and ovulation should be early July :) I have dh on some tablets I hope and :pray: will help with last cycles problem.

Regarding the vitamin B, double check with atomic. Vitamin B was recommended for me. I had to stop taking it because it delayed ovulation too much. I decided to start Brewers yeast as that apparently doesn't affect the cycle as much. I suspect that is what delayed my ovulation date (day 21 last cycle from day 19 previously and LP of 14). I'll stay on the Brewers yeast as I feel I need that vitamin B which is what the Brewers yeast tablets contain. Fingers crossed you both get your bfp soon :D

[Ewpnx1]

I understand Boysway each family is different and requirements are also different of different kids. Hopefully we all get what we want soon :)

[crazycatcouple]

Oh, I didn't even realize that brewers yeast had vitamin B in it! I do take that as part of my regime :-) That makes a lot of sense too because I have always had a 28 day cycle with ovulation at day 14, but the past 3 or 4 months, I'd had a 30 day cycle and ovulation is more the 16th day - must be the brewer's yeast!

Yes, circumstances seem to be king, as far as family planning goes. I am sorry about dd#2 Boysway :-( I can only imagine how hard that time in your life must have been and probably still effects you. I'm sure one of the pluses to having your kids further apart, especially them being girls, is that they are likely more of a help with each new baby, being older and more capable. I have many friends who had their kids one after the other, but there is not much help from the older kiddos, since they are still practically babies themselves! So there's one positive :-) We'll all have great little helpers for our little baby boys!

Ewpnx1 - AF is due sometimes between the 23rd and the 25th, depending on if I go 28 or 30 days. It seems like it fluctuates a little, as I take the brewers yeast less religiously because I don't like the texture of the pills, lol.

I'm going to wait until the 23rd to test I think... I'm trying really hard this time around not to obsess over it all and to just relax :-) It's tough, but at the same time, I've been enjoying my wine lately and I know that once I get confirmation of a BFP, that will be no more. Not that I'm getting drunk of course, just in case, but even though my doctor last time around told me I could have a glass each night, I didn't have but one here and there in my third trimester because, why chance it, right? Man, I sound like a drunk, lol. I swear I don't drink that much!! I've just been enjoying my wine lately since I know I will be without it for the next year or so :-) Trying to make the best of it since it seems we can't seem to actually get pregnant!

If we go one more month without a BFP, I'm going to go get some testing done. I know most doctors here won't suggest it until you've been trying for a year, but I definitely don't want to wait that long. And honestly, why not test earlier? What's the harm? If there is an issue, you might as well find out sooner than later!!

Haha, I just looked at my incredibly long post...sorry for all my gabbing! I'm a talker, if you hadn't noticed :-) Thanks for putting up with me ladies!

[crazycatcouple]

Okay, so it worked! My hubby doesn't want me to share the news yet, but I needed to tell someone :-) Fingers crossed its our little blue bundle! Hope to hear some good news from you ladies soon as well!!

[oncue]

ccc that's awesome! I haven't been around too much lately but pop in to see how everyone's going every now and then! congrats that's such fabulous news, so so so excited for u!! Yay!! xo

[Boysway]

Wonderful news crazycatcouple :)

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[Ewpnx1]

Awesome news Crazycatcouple !!!!!!Thats great news :flowerz: you must be so so happy..lovely..hope this works for us soon too :bluecheer:

[crazycatcouple]

Thanks ladies! I'll be sending all my baby making juju your way :-) Would love to see you ladies join me in the due date club soon!!

[Ewpnx1]

haha yes sure.. when is your due date? When did you test? how soon testing can be done you recon? I am a bit curious this wait is tough :((

[crazycatcouple]

My doctor won't see me until 8 weeks, so I have my first appt on 7/22. From my calculations, my due date should be somewhere in the March 2-4 range :-) I actually waited to test this time, surprisingly, lol. I tested at 12 dpo, which was on Sunday, day 27 of my cycle (which is usually between 28 and 30 days). But with my daughter, I think I started testing at around 8 dpo. I got 4 days of negatives before I got my positive, so it was probably right around the same time as well :-)

Where are you at in your cycle?

[Ewpnx1]

sounds great Crazycat :) my AF was 1st of june and i ovulated around 13,14 or may be 15th i guess. anyways we had 3 attempts during ovulation and 2 prior to oulation but in fertile window as i m not sort of swaying anymore and just want BFP!! so i tested on 25th june and it was negative. my cycles are noramaly irregular so it varies.But as i have ovulated on day 14 or so i thought i could start testing from DPO10. but i t was negative. I am scared now to test again.I usually spot before periods but nothing so far. If i dont spot till sunday i will check on sunday that would be DPO 14.what do you recon?
Boysway whats up with u?

[Ewpnx1]

with my DD i was on holidays overseas n i dint test untill i had breast tenderness and i was 3 days over due for my periods :)that time my cycles were 30 days lol

[Boysway]

Fingers crossed Ewpnx :)

I'm on CD 13. I'm thinking ovulation will happen in about a weeks time. I'm seriously thinking of not telling or even hinting to dh about ovulation coming up. If we take a risk of last attempt repeating itself then we're in with no chance again. We bd once since our attempt last month :(

[crazycatcouple]

Well they say HCG doubles every 2 days approximately, so if you're okay with possibly seeing another negative before getting your positive, I'd test again today, and then again on Sunday. It's possible you could get a positive at 12 dpo for sure. It just depends on your emotions, ya know? Some people get really down from seeing the negative, so if that's you, waiting until Sunday may be the better choice. I am just impatient and couldn't help myself! And if you normally get spotting before AF and you haven't yet, then there's a good chance you'll get your BFP :-) Sending baby dust your way!!!

[crazycatcouple]

Boysway, I think not saying anything about it being an actual attempt might be a good way to go! It's hard for them for "perform on cue" like that, but if you just get him in the mood more naturally, he'll probably have no issues! The only think is that if sex is only as often as you're saying, he may catch on when you're wanting it 3 days in a row, lol. You have to be an actress ;-)

My hubby had a hard time during some of our attempts as well. The one that worked was during the last part of our vacation when we were stress free and just having fun, rather than really focusing on making a baby, so I think you could be on to something with your plan!

Good luck on your attempts!!

[Boysway]

Crazycatcouple, I hint to my dh almost daily :( Very rarely does anything happen out of it :( That's why I am stuck as the whether I should give dh an indication that ovulation is nearing. When we finally bd it was last Monday night while we were away with the kids. The kids room was at the end of the hall with a laundry and two ensuites separating us. Worst thing, I just realised. I should be ovulating from around the 3rd-6th of July. On those days I am nightshift two nights in a row then two afternoon shifts in a row :(

[Ewpnx1]

Hi Ladies!!!! its sunday and i tested today..i thing its BFP :)) i got a faint positive on DPO 14 !! Crazy cat just saw your posts..and we think quiet same i just happened to wait from DPO10 to 14 for testing i said to myself will wait till sunday and was so excited today to see the faint line!! and came here to staright to update you guys..thanks for all your wishes guys and support..Boysway: i had been trying for 7-8 months off an on..i missed some months where we wete stressed or busy and its fine..but this time we were happy i ovulated on my DD birthday and we were happy partying for her.. and it was weekend so both were off and i ovulated same time..bingo!!!
as its not dark positive.. i will wait till i see GP. I will test every day till is dark and then see Doc..what do you guys recon?? I think due date would be first week of march which also happens to be my Hubby birthday on 1st march he is excited lol

[Boysway]

Awww, fantastic news. Sticky bfp wishes to you :) Congratulations.

[oncue]

Congrats ewpnx1! That's wonderful news! Keep us updated xo

[crazycatcouple]

Woo hoo! Congrats Ewpnx!!!! So excited for you :-) I have been taking more tests every 2 or 3 days just to watch the line get darker, lol. I would call your doc on Monday and see when they want to see you. Mine won't see us until 8 week, so July 22nd, but I think different docs have different ways to do it all.

And yes, I agree that for us it was so helpful that we were just relaxed and having fun, rather than "trying". Come join us over in the due date forum :-) There's not one yet for March I don't think, so I've been in Feb for now, but they may make a March one soon.

Boysway, keep thinking positively! You will get your BFP soon, I can just feel it. Do you and your hubby drink? Maybe try and have a bottle of wine to get more in the mood and loosen the reins a bit? Also, we found that morning spooning works well for DH since they are almost always ready to go in the AM, lol, so maybe your night shifts won't be too much of an issue if you shoot for first thing in the AM for him.

[Boysway]

Thanks crazycatcouple. Yes, things are more likely to happen in the morning. I guess we could give things a try when I come home from work in the morning. I don't think we'll have much choice about that.

[Ewpnx1]

thanks ladies :) yes will join due date forum when they start march one i guess..when do you tell family? hubby wants to keep it quiet.
boysway: wine helps..we had enough lol in fertlie time..holidays and reduced stress was the key for me..plus i stopped thinking of trying n just had fun thus tie..plus hubby had supps for a month due to low sperm count..and i think that helped heaps..
oncue are you trying?

[Boysway]

I planned on adding wine into my sway but when I'm not working I'm sleeping. So, I guess wine will be left out. Although I could have a glass Tuesday and Wednesday night. I'm nightshift on my first two fertile days which are Thursday and Friday.

[Ewpnx1]

i think if you just try for fun doesn't matter..i had 2-3 months in between where i could only try once due to hubby being busy with work..it stressed me more out..probably just dont try this month..you can have fun..if it happens this month its OK otherwise next month..for me actually it stressed me more out if BD was only once during ovulation time...good luck..after 7-8 months of trying i think i have found out the relaxed state of mind was most important for both of us..that's what worked this month..

[crazycatcouple]

Ewpnx1 - I think it depends on your personality for when to tell people. I am a talker and know that even if something happened, I'd want to talk about it, so I've been telling anyone that I would feel comfortable talking to about a loss, which basically includes all of my family and the friends I consider close :-) I haven't announced it on FB or anything like that yet - I'll probably wait until after 8 or 12 weeks, depending on when we get our first official scan. Some people wait longer to even tell family, but I just know I would need the support system if anything did happen. Plus, I'm trying to just stay positive and believe that everything will go as planned, so why not tell those I love :-)

[Boysway]

Well, I think I might have myself a wine tonight. Feeling a little down and frustrated. Dh is on his last Prelox tablet (the ones I ordered from the states). I ordered more 2 weeks ago and they still haven't arrived :( Ovulation isn't too far away. ARGH!!!

[crazycatcouple]

Fingers crossed for you Boysway! I hope the wine helped you to relax a little :-). Try and stay positive (I know, much easier said than done)! We're rooting for you!!

[crazycatcouple]

Oncue, how's it been going for you? Are you close to another attempt or in the 2ww? Would love to have all of you ladies joining us over in the due date clubs! Sending positive baby vibes!!

[Boysway]

Well, I don't really hold any hopes of a bfp any time soon :( OPK this morning indicates ovulation may happen in the next few days. Unfortunately I think we have bigger fish to fry then when I will ovulate. Dh has told me he gets pain in his leg before we even get to the point of bd. So, there is yet another indication of possible cardio issues. I gave dh a good talking to this morning. His pessimism really gets to me :( I told him he needs to make time to get to the Dr to get tests before something major happens.

[crazycatcouple]

Aww, I'm sorry to hear that Boysway! I hope your DH gets himself taken care of asap. And I know what you mean with pessimism :-( MY DH is also quite pessimistic, and it wears on me so much. It's hard always having to be the optimistic one!

[Boysway]

Blaring +OPK this afternoon :( Looks like it's another egg without an opportunity for a bfp :(

[Ewpnx1]

boyswa dont worry if it cant be this month..more important is for you both to stay positive n happy..we skipped few months in between where we were busy at fertile times..good luck for everything..
cazycat i am waiting to tell due to DH.I would like to he doesnt want me to tell until 8 weeks huh!! no symptoms here so trying to hide..dont know how long lets see..do u have any symptoms??i dint have any symptoms with DD either..with my DH he is the opyimistic one i more negative n feel let down sooner n he perks me up :)

[Boysway]

Ewpnx, I wish it was as easy as us both being busy. Most times dh is having erectile dysfunction issues :( Now he is also getting a tingly/pain in his right leg. So, we can't even try an attempt :( He needs to see our doctor asap.

[Ewpnx1]

we had issues and got sorted by just having enough sleep and supplements so hopefully it works for u too.

[Boysway]

I sure hope problems are sorted on our end that easily. Really ticked off though. The replacement supps I ordered for dh still haven't turned up :( (3 weeks after I ordered). Dh seems to think it is all in his head. We have had a couple of times where he hasn't had much trouble so, fingers crossed it is just stressed. I have decided I'm not going to tell him ovulation is near next time.