BEFORE O or AFTER O.....that is the question!

[SugarSpice&EverythingNice]

I have been asking a few mamas about how they got their girls....but I still can't "pinpoint" or give myself a clearer path on which to choose.

Do I want to DTD a few days before ovulation/avoid o?

Or do I want to abstain for a long period of time (7 or longer days) and then ONLY DTD after O?

Its like 50/50. Some moms swear that they got their DD's by DTD a few days before O (like the shettles method)

But some swear that its after O.

Can anybody add insight? Or does anybody feel like they are just "lost" as what to do?

I have pretty much figured out I will do the girl diet hardcore for 6 weeks, take all the supplements, testing my PH, shallow almost "pull out" method, and a lime douche. BUT I CANT FIGURE OUT if I should be trying for before O or after O.

1 thing I know for sure is that I am avoiding O. LOL.

I hear a lot of people saying that doing it before O, (shettles method) results in more boys than girls (failed sway).

Any help? The more I research, the more I still get 50/50 answers.

[jude17]

Yes. timing is the most confusing thing for me as well. My first boy we dtd on ovulation day and my second boy was the day before ovulation. I tried diet/supplements for my last boy but my diet wasn't great after now reading up on the diet more in depth. I was thinking of O+12 and abstinence for 10 days but we will both probably be 37/38 for our attempt and I think they say if you are older O+12 plus abstinence can cause miscarriage/birth defects??

I have also read that many people think shettles results in heaps of opposites? I think 3 days before dtd results in most girls?? But I tried for months to dtd at 2/3 days ovulation and I couldn't get pregnant. So frustrating and confusing. I think for me I may have to dtd right on ovulation to get pregnant but I am so worried about this as this is how I got the boys. But this time I will do a hardcore diet and different/more supplements.

If I was to try a cut-off again I will use rephresh as that sounds good to keep ph low. I think though I will start with O+12 (with abstinence and hope baby is healthy) although people say its nearly impossible to get pregnant with O+12?. I was thinking of using rephresh up until ovulation day and then aci-jel at the O+12 attempt (and use sylk as lube) ?? So confusing as I really want to do the best possible timing for a girl but cut off or dtd very close or on ovulation day really worries me.

Hopefully someone can offer some advice!

[SugarSpice&EverythingNice]

Hey Jude :) I am glad that i am not the only one confused by all this conflicting info :) LOL. I am leaning towards a O+12, but I have no idea how to figure that out.

Can somebody help me figure this out? So if I start using OPK's, and I get a darker line, darker than the control line, does that mean "O" is going to happen, and I just have to "guess" and check my CM, and when the EWCM is gone, THEN add 12 hours?

[Mochagirl]

I tried O+12 with my last sway. I've gotta say it's realllly hard to pinpoint the right moment. I got it wrong despite using a combination of OPKs, temp charting and looking for saliva ferning with a microscope and . I ended up with O-10 or something like that, and got ds3. I think I'm going to avoid trying it this time - I'm also not going to do a long cut-off since I'm 36 and want to get pregnant quickly. I'm thinking maybe a 1-2 day cut off for me.

[fivebabies]

This is the hardest decision for me! I don't know if I feel comfortable enough with knowing exactly when I ovulate to do O+12....anyone else nervous about this? OPK's are always + for me, I have no idea why. I do have very painful ovulation so I know "about" when I O but can't pinpoint it. :(

Did you guys see that chart of sorts on IG that showed the % of how many sways ended up successful with all combos of how they sway/what they did......very useful. Makes me want to do diet+supplements+3 day cut off.

[fourwildones]

Mochagirl, I am thinking the same thing, how do you plan to detect 2 days before O? Would you go with your first positive OPK? I have OPKs and am hoping to try in July, am aiming for 2-1 (probably 1) day and bought a CBFM too. Would love to know what you are thinking , I too think O+12 seems to dodgy ( I'm in my late 30s).

[jude17]

Man its so hard for me to decide if to try again for a 3 day cut off or O+12. It would be easy if I had managed a 2/3 cut off last time and got a boy (would then know a cut off didn't work) but I didn't (I only had a 1 day cut off) so now I still have no idea if I would be better off trying a cut off or O+12. Or does timing not really matter and you should just aim for ovulation day! Its sooooo confusing!

[jude17]

I get a fade in effect my opk's. A faint line for 1 or 2 days and then a positive result. I think the faint lines would give me the 2 to 3 day cut offs so if I try cut off again I will try the night of the faint tests only. When I tried last time I read about lots of girls who had conceived girls by dtd the night of a positive opk. I wasn't getting pregnant by dtd before the positive opk so I dtd the night of the positive test but I got a boy!

[swish]

I think it depends on how quickly you want to get pregnant. Generally, alot of people had success with abstain plus 3 day cut off. Personally, I want to get pregnant as quickly as possible so I'm going to do frequent bedding and dtd on the first day of getting a positive opt, if this doesn't work I'll go one day closer on the next cycle. I'm trying to be relaxed about it, I have stressed alot but now I feel quite happy with my decision. If I didn't want to get pregnant so quickly I think I would try abstaining for a couple of months but I HATE this diet!!! There is no way I could do o+ 12 as I just couldn't pin point it and I think it would be quite stressful.

[Mochagirl]

Mochagirl, I am thinking the same thing, how do you plan to detect 2 days before O? Would you go with your first positive OPK? I have OPKs and am hoping to try in July, am aiming for 2-1 (probably 1) day and bought a CBFM too. Would love to know what you are thinking , I too think O+12 seems to dodgy ( I'm in my late 30s).

Yes - I think I'll start my cut-off at the first +OPK. I'm also tempted to do frequent BD leading up to then, because, as I said - I want to get pregnant quickly. I have loooong periods (7+ days if I include spotting), so the time between the end of AF and O is pretty short - I may just BD every day between those times since it really only amounts to 3-4 days or so. The only day I don't want to BD on is O day, because that's when all my boys were conceived.

[swish]

I'm planning exactly the same as you, mochagirl! Let's hope we both get pregnant quickly!!!

[wishing on a star]

I dtd four days in a row after af until 2 days before O which resulted in pregnancy, i tried abstaining with a cut off for a few months and couldnt fall so wanted to try frequent as was worired how much longer i could keep diet up. Dnt know what im having yet though
xxx

[fourwildones]

Thanks for your input Mochagirl and also thanks for sharing for your plan swish, I too think I am planning day of first positive OPK, but was hoping to wait until July. I may have to give it all up to add more calories-and wait until a later month, this diet is killing me. Is any of you using a ClearBlue Fertility Monitor? I ordered one and was hoping to use the first egg sign...not sure if the first cheapie pos OPK would be better...

[kaseybaby]

This is the hardest decision for me when it comes to the sway. I think the first month I am going to go for a 3 day cut off after frequent BD. If that doesn't work then I will do a 2 day cut off, if that doesn't work then i am doing Deanna's plan. If I don't get pregnant during the first 3 months then I am taking the fall and holidays off and will start again in February. Of course I say this now, but I will probably become obsessed and keep trying.

[Mochagirl]

Here's hoping we all get preggo really fast. This diet is NASTY - I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy! I'm constantly daydreaming about all the things I'm going to eat as soon as I get that BFP!

[atomic sagebrush]

I have been asking a few mamas about how they got their girls....but I still can't "pinpoint" or give myself a clearer path on which to choose.

Do I want to DTD a few days before ovulation/avoid o?

Or do I want to abstain for a long period of time (7 or longer days) and then ONLY DTD after O?

Its like 50/50. Some moms swear that they got their DD's by DTD a few days before O (like the shettles method)

But some swear that its after O.

Can anybody add insight? Or does anybody feel like they are just "lost" as what to do?

I have pretty much figured out I will do the girl diet hardcore for 6 weeks, take all the supplements, testing my PH, shallow almost "pull out" method, and a lime douche. BUT I CANT FIGURE OUT if I should be trying for before O or after O.

1 thing I know for sure is that I am avoiding O. LOL.

I hear a lot of people saying that doing it before O, (shettles method) results in more boys than girls (failed sway).

Any help? The more I research, the more I still get 50/50 answers.

That's because it's quite likely that timing doesn't work at all and so any timing you ask about will have roughly 50-50 odds.

[atomic sagebrush]

This is the hardest decision for me! I don't know if I feel comfortable enough with knowing exactly when I ovulate to do O+12....anyone else nervous about this? OPK's are always + for me, I have no idea why. I do have very painful ovulation so I know "about" when I O but can't pinpoint it. :(

Did you guys see that chart of sorts on IG that showed the % of how many sways ended up successful with all combos of how they sway/what they did......very useful. Makes me want to do diet+supplements+3 day cut off.

Have you guys read these threads? They have the how to of timing.

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?1381-Shettles-method-of-timing
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?1292-O-12-Part-2-How-to-do-O-12
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?2728-abstaining-frequent-release-and-mixing-cutoff-with-O-12