Olive Leaf Extract

[pinkplspls]

Hi Ladies,

Olive Leaf Extract is part of DH's sway plan, I found this product

Olive Leaf Extract Peppermint, Comvita, Olive Leaf Complex products (http://www.comvita.co.uk/healthcare/olive-leaf-complex/olive-leaf-complex-peppermint.html)

...I think I remember reading that Peppermint is good for DH, but thought i'd ask first, see if anyone else had their husbands drink pep tea? Is it good for swaying pink?!

While i'm here, anyone else having their hubs take OLE? It seems to be amazing for your health, but not lots of reports on its ability to sway yet, although my husband needs it for optimum health, I just thought i'd ask xx

[dreams529]

My Dh is taking OLE also. Mine is just straight OLE so I hope someone else can help you with the peppermint part.

The couple of sways that have used it so far seem to have all been successful. Making out 1st attempt sometime in the next few days so fingers crossed OLE works for us both!

[snipsnsnails]

My dh took the olive leaf liquid about 2 or 3 tbl a day. And drank peppermint tea when he remembered. He really focused on the olive leaf. But I don't know If it worked yet or not...

[pinkplspls]

snipsnsnails when will you know?! do u have a bfp yet. fingers crossed for all of us! and bless our hubbies for helping with our sways!

hopefully we will all get our pink bundles x

[rainbowflower]

when we sway my OH will take it too. I've bought that same brand you linked to, just the "regular" flavour not the peppermint one

[atomic sagebrush]

If I meant your hubby to do peppermint, I would have put it in the plan.

The HT ladies have seen good results with it and gotten more XX than XY that way. We don't yet know if it's going to give that good of results for swaying. But for people whose husbands can't use the old-skool supps, I think it's very very promising.

[Tiffany]

Just been trying to find more info on the OLE and what it does in terms of swaying for my hubby. He's being a pain in the bum and needs to know WHY he has to take it lol. Any info would be great! Thank you.

[greeneyes]

Bump, I was wondering about the olive leaf extract too.

[atomic sagebrush]

The fact is that we don't know how or why it sways. We had a doctor on here who claimed to have some theory about it and was going to publish but never did (that I am aware). At first I was tentative about using it but then several of the HT girls did have good gender splits with it and then I started occasionally using it for guys who couldn't take cranberry for health reasons. Thus far we've gotten good results with it and now we're bringing it more into the main******.

[rainbowflower]

The fact is that we don't know how or why it sways. We had a doctor on here who claimed to have some theory about it and was going to publish but never did (that I am aware). At first I was tentative about using it but then several of the HT girls did have good gender splits with it and then I started occasionally using it for guys who couldn't take cranberry for health reasons. Thus far we've gotten good results with it and now we're bringing it more into the main******.

I did a search a while ago and found no update from her. Did you find out what happened? I remember her last post was that she was taking a little break because her child was ill....?

[Rosie85]

So if my DH takes the olive leaf should he do the liquid or pill form? Ladies with Dh's taking the liquid...does it taste okay?!

[Mrsandmama]

My DH takes the liquid- he hates it SOOO much! He takes Barleans Olive Leaf 2 tablespoons a day with food. If he took it by itself, it would come right back up! He's such a trooper!

[Rosie85]

So I wonder if the pill works too? I would hate to make dh choke something down, though I am sure he will do it. He wants his DD so badly.

[Mrsandmama]

So I wonder if the pill works too? I would hate to make dh choke something down, though I am sure he will do it. He wants his DD so badly.

I've heard that the body absorbs the liquid better than pill form and most of the girl's here have their DH take the liquid form and it has worked for them so I'm going down that road!

[Rosie85]

okay well that is what we will do then. poor dh :worry:

[Rosie85]

oh and thank you for the info Mrs!!

[atomic sagebrush]

the HT ladies swear by the liquid stuff but in my book, a tactic is worthless if yoru husband won't do it and since the liquid stuff is yucky tasting, I would feel fine with using the dry leaf if that's all he will take.

[atomic sagebrush]

So I wonder if the pill works too? I would hate to make dh choke something down, though I am sure he will do it. He wants his DD so badly.

In that case I would def. use liquid - many of us pink swayers have the opposite prob. with a DH who won't help and may not even want another child (or even a girl at all, like my husband) so we have to proceed with great caution! ;) (please note mine never says that any more now that she's here LOL)

[poppys5]

Hi can dh take lr and olive leaf? X

[Rosie85]

I had already asked if they could be taken together. They don't really know....however I looked on the sway stats chart and one lady had her husband taking both so mine will be too.

[Mrsandmama]

Yes LR and OLE can be taken together.

[atomic sagebrush]

I had already asked if they could be taken together. They don't really know....however I looked on the sway stats chart and one lady had her husband taking both so mine will be too.

???

Honestly, we don't know about ANY of these things - they haven't been studied so I can't say with 100% confidence that any of the sway supps are perfectly safe. But based on what little info I do have, I do believe that they are safe together and use them together all the time.

[Rosie85]

sorry atomic, didn't mean to make it sound like you didn't know. You had just told me the same thing, about not knowing about safety for sure. I meant to let her know that.

[atomic sagebrush]

i understand, I recalled our convo but just wanted to clarify. :)

[Rosie85]

of course! :happy:

I also have the habit of typing and losing my thoughts and forgetting a ton of stuff and then submitting without finishing it! ha. I blame it on my children

[atomic sagebrush]

yes me too! as everyone can attest! :p

[Rosie85]

Dh's OLE arrived in the mail today and ugh... it is flavored with peppermint when it said it wasn't! I've been having bad luck with online orders lately!

I am hoping the small amount of peppermint included doesn't affect anything or give a sway toward boy. I doubt there is enough in there right? I won't send it back..too much work!

[atomic sagebrush]

Peppermint will sway pink.

Generally I don't have people do pep and LR together (if you were going to give him LR) but I bet there is so little peppermint in the OLE that it probably makes no difference whatsoever

[Rosie85]

oh! I must have misread into that. Well good then. This lack of red meat is melting my brain I swear...hahaha

[Mrsandmama]

My DH said to tell your DH "Good Luck!" My DH hates me for making him take OLE. :)

[Rosie85]

Aww how nice of your Dh! I hate to tell you this but my Dh has zero issue. I am sure the peppermint helps but mostly he has zero gag reflex and that allows him to down almost anything. Right before he drinks it he says for my baby girl and throws it back!

Has your DH mixed it with anything like juice? Did you already mention that? I can't recall.

Really hoping the stuff works, how great would that be if it were as simple as swallowing some gross liquid!

[emmake]

We'll be doing HT in August, I wonder should I have my hubby taking pepper mint and also olive leaf to increase our XX ratio? Is pepper mint a good idea?

[Mrsandmama]

Aww how nice of your Dh! I hate to tell you this but my Dh has zero issue. I am sure the peppermint helps but mostly he has zero gag reflex and that allows him to down almost anything. Right before he drinks it he says for my baby girl and throws it back!

Has your DH mixed it with anything like juice? Did you already mention that? I can't recall.

Really hoping the stuff works, how great would that be if it were as simple as swallowing some gross liquid!

Usually my dh shoots it and chases it with water. He always takes it while he is eating dinner. Peppermint or not, it makes him gag. Poor guy but I love him soooo much for doing it!!

[girliedreamz]

I have zero info on how Olive Leaf sways, so I totally defer to atomic on that. But I have had some experience with Olive Leaf in general, as my mother has a background in herbal healing. Just a couple of things…

Not all supplements are created equal. Some companies have more potent stuff than others (just due to growing and drying procedures). I don’t know about the liquid, but the most potent pill form that I know of is Life Extension, EAST PARK RESEARCH. It’s more expensive, but very strong stuff.
Amazon.com: Life Extension (EAST PARK RESEARCH), OLIVE LEAF EXTRACT 500MG 60 CAPS: Health & Personal Care (http://goo.gl/XgRgFv)

Also Olive Leaf can significantly lower blood pressure. This may not be an issue for some people – especially if your dh tends toward the higher blood pressure range as it could actually be helpful! – but if your dh has low blood pressure issues at all, I’d be really careful. Myself, I have low blood pressure, and after one does of this stuff, I get dizzy and black out from my blood pressure going down too rapidly. So, just watch for any symptoms of blood pressure going too low, and if he complains of being dizzy, stop using or consult your doctor.

Oh, just an aside, it’s also a fantastic immune system booster. (Which is how I plan to get my dh on board with taking it! Lol!) It’s has natural anti-viral, anti-bacterial, and immune system boosting properties. My mother swears by it in cold and flu season.

[atomic sagebrush]

We'll be doing HT in August, I wonder should I have my hubby taking pepper mint and also olive leaf to increase our XX ratio? Is pepper mint a good idea?

No to peppermint because it lowers sperm quality. Yes to olive leaf, it works great for gender splits and there are some threads about people's experiences in the HT forums. :)

[greeneyes]

Sorry to beat the OLE to a pulp, I was wondering about this one: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-girl/36077-olive-leaf-extract.html

The oleuropein... Do we want more or less of it? Does anyone know? I was reading for supplemental reasons to go with the higher percentage, but wasn't sure if swaying wise if we wanted the higher percent or not...

Thanks! :) Talked DH into trying it for a bottle.

[dreamingofwin]

Do we have any stats with this yet? x

[dreamingofwin]

Do we have any stats with this yet? x

[rainbowflower]

no not many so far, 6/6 got girls plus 1 who never came back to update and several others who are pregnant but don't know gender yet

[Rainbow baby]

6 for 6 is pretty good :) obviously we can get girls with dh taking it. My DH started today his bottle says 5mls 2 times a day... he hates it.

[dreamingofwin]

Is this instead of LR? Only ask as LR kills my hubbys teeth so he doesn't want to take it x

[atomic sagebrush]

Is this instead of LR? Only ask as LR kills my hubbys teeth so he doesn't want to take it x

No it's instead of cranberry.

Can you get him a different kind of LR that is not chewable?

You can also sub in pep tea for LR

[atomic sagebrush]

there is a poll thread on the HT page and OLE does not seem to be a magic bullet to me. some took it and got boys, others didn't take it and got girls. still may help and I will continue to recommend but just so you guys know.

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ht-family-balancing-info-current-cycles/38585-olive-leaf-poll.html

[odd]

Is it ok to take in a pill form ??y husband will not even entertain the thought of liquid version but I may get him to pop a pill.

Also ..is this also after to o???

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[greeneyes]

Sorry to beat the OLE to a pulp, I was wondering about this one: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-girl/36077-olive-leaf-extract.html

The oleuropein... Do we want more or less of it? Does anyone know? I was reading for supplemental reasons to go with the higher percentage, but wasn't sure if swaying wise if we wanted the higher percent or not...

Thanks! :) Talked DH into trying it for a bottle.

Anyone know the answer to this? I think my new cycle is going to start in a day or so and I'd like for dh to be on it at least AF to O. I was hoping to order it today...



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[greeneyes]

Is it ok to take in a pill form ??y husband will not even entertain the thought of liquid version but I may get him to pop a pill.

Also ..is this also after to o???

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I was able to talk dh into trying it for a bottle for none swaying purposes. I sold him on the other health aspects and won't even bother with the liquid if it's gross. I know he won't do it of its nasty!


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[dreamingofwin]

Thanks

Its not chewable although I can see why you'd think that. Its a side effect he has from it,very stange but his face/teeth hurt!! x


No it's instead of cranberry.

Can you get him a different kind of LR that is not chewable?

You can also sub in pep tea for LR

[odd]

Great thanks ....do you how and when it's supposed to be taken ?

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[atomic sagebrush]

Is it ok to take in a pill form ??y husband will not even entertain the thought of liquid version but I may get him to pop a pill.

Also ..is this also after to o???

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yes OLE is all cycle long and I think it's fine to use in pill form

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks

Its not chewable although I can see why you'd think that. Its a side effect he has from it,very stange but his face/teeth hurt!! x

jeez in that case I would drop it. I don't like that at all and that is our most dangerous supp. Sub in the pep tea instead and throw the LR away!!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Anyone know the answer to this? I think my new cycle is going to start in a day or so and I'd like for dh to be on it at least AF to O. I was hoping to order it today...



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oh sorry I somehow missed that question. I'm not totally sure we know WHAT sways in the OLE - actually I am sure we don't know at all LOL. So yes go ahead and get the higher Oleuropein in case that's what is doing the swaying.

[dreamingofwin]

Really!! Oh no! Why is it dangerous? I'll let him take another just to make sure it was that but his words were ' oh no not that teeth hurting pill again!'

jeez in that case I would drop it. I don't like that at all and that is our most dangerous supp. Sub in the pep tea instead and throw the LR away!!!

[atomic sagebrush]

explanation here http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-girl-best-practices/7108-saw-palmetto-peppermint-tea-licorice-root-depth-how.html

[kv1080]

so would taking LR with OLE sort of cancel each other out in terms of BP?




Also Olive Leaf can significantly lower blood pressure. This may not be an issue for some people – especially if your dh tends toward the higher blood pressure range as it could actually be helpful! – but if your dh has low blood pressure issues at all, I’d be really careful. Myself, I have low blood pressure, and after one does of this stuff, I get dizzy and black out from my blood pressure going down too rapidly. So, just watch for any symptoms of blood pressure going too low, and if he complains of being dizzy, stop using or consult your doctor.

[atomic sagebrush]

No, they don't and LR should not ever ever ever be taken by anyone with high blood pressure. the effects of LR on blood pressure are like a hurricane wind, the effect of OLE (if any) is like a butterfly flapping its wings.

[kv1080]

ok thanks. so assuming my husband, in good health, were planning to take both LR and OLE- OLE starts whenever and just is taken continuously? i know it's not been tried much here yet, but wondering how those who have done it have used it.

[Tiffany]

LR should only be taken for 14 days from cd1. :)

[essnce629]

i know it's not been tried much here yet, but wondering how those who have done it have used it.

DH has been taking two 450mg capsules of olive leaf extract a day for 6 months continuously. He's taking two 450mg licorice root capsules a day from AF-O or 14 days. After 6 months of licorice root though you have to take a month off (which DH did last month since we were on vacation and not TTC).

[kv1080]

thank you essnce629!!! (side note- i see you had home births- yay!! my last one was a home birthed water baby too... first one was an attempted home birth but breech vaginal didn't pan out-so technically second one was an hbac).. ANYWAY.. thank you for info about the OLE. also, i know i asked it somewhere else, but don't think it got a response- i know i always ovulate around CD 18 or later, so should/could i have my husband start LR on CD 3 or 4 and just do it for 2 weeks following that? or just always CD 1-14?

[atomic sagebrush]

sorry this has been a weird couple weeks
OLE is daily thru entire cycle.

LR is CD 1-14 only, regardless of when you ovulate. He does not NEED to be on it when you ovulate. These hormonal supps suppress the hormone levels overall and it takes time for them to lower and time to rise. it is MUCH easier to simply give it to him CD 1-14 and requires no figuring and complex equations and removes the stress from the situation, and it works just as well if not better.

[atomic sagebrush]

DH has been taking two 450mg capsules of olive leaf extract a day for 6 months continuously. He's taking two 450mg licorice root capsules a day from AF-O or 14 days. After 6 months of licorice root though you have to take a month off (which DH did last month since we were on vacation and not TTC).

After 6 months of BFN, I am starting to think that it is prob. best to drop it anyway.

[Tiffany]

How much LR are they supposed to take? I started my DH on it this cycle but only gave him one pill a day...
Just looked on the bottle and they are 450mg/pill. Should I give him two from today for the next 7 days?

[Tiffany]

Atomic did you get my message? :)

[atomic sagebrush]

THe proper dose on LR is 450 mg 3x a day from AF-CD 14. But if you give him smaller amounts than that, it's still ok and will only help

[essnce629]

After 6 months of BFN, I am starting to think that it is prob. best to drop it anyway.

For us it's only been 3 cycles of BFN as I've taken 3 months off of TTC over the course of those 6 months! On cycle #4 of TTC right now and feeling lucky! DH did not take the LR on our months off, so this is only his 4th month on it. We never did the full 3 capsules a day, just 2.

But yes, for anyone else who's been trying continuously for 6 months with LR I'd say drop it as well.

[Atsaukina1]

Still searching for info on ole. Is it used for same purpose as lr? To lower testosterone? Same possible side effects?
My dh is 38, decent health, average weight, have gotten prego on first try for four kids, and decent sex drive. Would you suggest lr or ole? Don't want to do both. Think I can get him to drink diet coke since he's a soda drinker or would zertec help ph? He has seasonal allergies. Af should be here in a few days. Do you take ole from af-o?
Thanks

[atomic sagebrush]

I answered this in another thread.

If you guys have questions it is SO much easier for me for you to simply start a new thread and ask your question than to go around bumping a bunch of old threads. I try very hard to answer all threads and it takes time for me to even just open and shut a thread without replying to it.

[Treen101]

So which is better for ttc girl- olive leaf or cranberry? What happens if DH takes both?

[atomic sagebrush]

don't have him take both, since they're both blood thinners it may cause serious side effects if he takes both.

We don't know which is better. Two different groups of people take them, and since one group may be more "set" for pink than the other, it skews the results. I generally use cranberry for guys up to about 35 in good health with no medical or sperm health issues, and OLE for older guys, men with health probs or on medication that interacts with cran, or with poor sperm health.