♥ June 2011 ~ Swaying for Blue? This is the thread for you!! ♥

[TTC5]

Tink - Ah I misunderstood:sigh:, I though you asking if you should actually dtd tonight. Keep tracking it all and you'll have it down by then no problem:wink: Don't apologize and please keep asking questions, we all know how confusing it all is.

Begonia - see now I don't have any close friends with twins so I feel I can hate them on principle :bigsmile:
Yeah all the sudden food has become offensive. One of our favorite dinners tasted literally rotten tonight. I just sat at the table telling the kids "oh my gosh I'm so full". We have it every week, this is going to be tough lol
I agree it's super weird to be excited about a strangers cm, boy we swayers are an odd bunch :rofl:

TTC5 - as soon as they showed up huh, we are so alike lol

Welcome DebH :wink:

Yep I just had to! Coz, you know... some people do get early +'s so just in case hehehehehe

I am so feeling not pregnant today waaaaa this tww is torture :(

[iluvmyman]

LMAO!!! We have good friends with a pair ... I remember talking to the DH before they found out and he was like "I hope we get one of each" and I didn't say it but I was like, "yeah, right ... the odds of that ..." and then they did. At least I love them enough to be happy for them :-)

I'm so jealous of b/g twins. Oh my how thrilled and elated I would be. That's just perfect IMHO. Of coarse that's an outsiders POV. So jealous though and that is my secret prayer. Shhhh! :)

[TTC5]

Hot burning ear lobes at 5dpo, what do you ladies think lol

Yep SS again ;)

[Tink18]

OI have the smiley face OPK's as well, my friend mailed me a bunch since she is all kinds of pregnant. I haven't even busted into those yet. I have all kinds of things to pee on these days. I might just pee on DH if he is lucky. I am becoming a pee addict. I swear once I think i get one thing I get so damn confused. I need a cookie.

[Tink18]

Hot burning ear lobes at 5dpo, what do you ladies think lol

Yep SS again ;)

YOu and your 2ww should go on tour...you're killing me!! so funny! I bet your still have a pillow under your bum! lol

[TTC5]

LOL noo but my bum sure does look like it has a pillow stuffed under my pants :tissue:

[Plum3]

Still too early, FX!

I've been swaying Since June 10' = one year ago! I didn't make many attempts due to my messy cycles, Thanks to the supplements. NOW I know what to take. I wasted a whole year :(

Did you have irregular cycles before the supps? I am trying to figure out of taking certain supps will regulate my cycles and help me O on my own.

[Plum3]

YOu and your 2ww should go on tour...you're killing me!! so funny! I bet your still have a pillow under your bum! lol

Haha, too funny!

[Plum3]

This thread is moving so fast, lots to read and catch up on.

Begonia, good luck for this attempt. We are close in our cycles, I am CD8 at the moment.

Babydes, sorry about your so called friend. It sucks when people you thought were close friends turn out to be a waste of space. FX for you this month! Hopefully you don't end up needing Clomid.

Hope.ful, sorry about AF, stupid cow she is. I hope next month is the one.

Lola and iluv, good luck with your tests this week.

TTC5, can't believe you tested already. I'm a POAS addict too so I think I probably would have as well. Did you get implantation dips with your girls?

Welcome DebH.

[iluvmyman]

OI have the smiley face OPK's as well, my friend mailed me a bunch since she is all kinds of pregnant. I haven't even busted into those yet. I have all kinds of things to pee on these days. I might just pee on DH if he is lucky. I am becoming a pee addict. I swear once I think i get one thing I get so damn confused. I need a cookie.

LOL! I hate golden showers but not sure DH would mind. :)

[iluvmyman]

Tink - Everyone fades in differently, I can get my first faint 4 days before I actually O. Like temping, opk's are one of those things that can take a few months to figure out your personal pattern.

I don't think I fade in at all.

[iluvmyman]

Yes, this is exactly why I am doing this all now, So I can have it figured out for Sept! Thanks everyone!!! sorry for all the questions.

This is what I understand from the ladies, but you can do it how you feel and depends on your belief about doing it once or multiple attempts. Atomic has a couple of threads about this you might want to check out.

If you are trying multiple attempts you would have 3-5 days abstinence (Ideally, I will shoot for 4 days abstinence) before DTD on the 1st attempt. This 1st attempt would be on O-2 (2 days before O) then for the 2nd attempt DTD at O (which s/b 48 hrs after the last one). Ideal is to DTD 12-18 hrs after 1st real positive OPK.

If you just wanted to do it once (I remember thinking most people on Ig were doing this so I started out this way but am not just trying once) then you would do the 12-18 hrs after 1st OPK. You should still have EWCM and not sticky and clumpy which would be putting you in girl territory.

Lola, you can beat me if I'm wrong.

[iluvmyman]

Well my preg tests arrived today and the sad poas addict that I am just HAD to rip in to one, did not help that DH was standing by nagging me to anway, lol..


BFN as I thought being only 5dpo lmao! AND not FMU.

Awesome!!! LOL!

[iluvmyman]

Hi! Have to say I have been more of a lurker than a joiner, but I'd like to participate in this group! Better late than never :)

1st attempt swaying in about 6 hours (who's counting???).

♥ DebH
♥ Swaying Status: Swaying NOW!
♥ TTC DC 4
♥ Your approach to blue sway: Diet (red meat, potatoes, tomato, v8, high potassium foods like banana and dried apricots, alkaline foods, salty food and cut out dairy and most sugar - too hard on that one not to cheat here and there), tons of lemon water, green tea. Supps (folic, epo, fish oil, l arg), mucinex plain af to o, 3 packet knox blocks recipe daily (Jen's recipe with the blueberry pom - yum). Added weights to workout. DH supps (fish oil, B12, l arg, folic, zinc), baking soda drink for both. DH switched to boxers. BSF, and plan to use davidson's egg white (tested one today at 9.5).

Welcome DebH Wow! Need anything before you DTD?

[TTC5]

This thread is moving so fast, lots to read and catch up on.

Begonia, good luck for this attempt. We are close in our cycles, I am CD8 at the moment.

Babydes, sorry about your so called friend. It sucks when people you thought were close friends turn out to be a waste of space. FX for you this month! Hopefully you don't end up needing Clomid.

Hope.ful, sorry about AF, stupid cow she is. I hope next month is the one.

Lola and iluv, good luck with your tests this week.

TTC5, can't believe you tested already. I'm a POAS addict too so I think I probably would have as well. Did you get implantation dips with your girls?

Welcome DebH.

No idea, as I never charted. We just bonked like crazy soon as AF left and that was that! I do remember getting spotting but no idea how far exactly but am guessing it was around the time AF was due, or just a tad after.

[Plum3]

No idea, as I never charted. We just bonked like crazy soon as AF left and that was that! I do remember getting spotting but no idea how far exactly but am guessing it was around the time AF was due, or just a tad after.

Haha, we did as well, basically every day until the day after O. No wonder we have girls.

[TTC5]

I reckon! This doing it once business really feels weird :P

[iluvmyman]

I reckon! This doing it once business really feels weird :P

I tried the 1 time once, then couldn't do it again. I don't like the one shot deal, I don't have months and months to mess around with it. I'm doing it a couple times now.

[TTC5]

If it takes me more than say, 3 cycles, I will try more than once too :)

[iluvmyman]

BTW, no + opk this evening, so I hope it doesn't happen between late tonight and Friday. We dtd tonight, regular old BD but we did Doggy style in the shower. It is what it is.

[sunnyebsh]

I finally got me 'high' reading on my CBFM this morning....& I've just had my smiley face on my clear blue OPK. Help! when should I BD??

'CBFM' went from 'low' to 'high' this morning
10am OPK - negative
2.30pm OPK - negative
7.15 OPK - smiley

AF appeared at 9.30ish in the morning this cycle.

Should I wait for the 'peak' from the CBFM..(assuming it will be tmw morning) & then BD tomorrow morning or evening? OR 12 hours from positive OPK ie. 7ish tommorrow morning?

[TTC5]

I'd bd tomorrow morning if you can elevate your hips for a bit before having to jump up, otherwise I would go tonight.

[sunnyebsh]

Tonight? I thought we should BD 12 hours after 1st + ???

[TTC5]

Well I went around 9 hrs after my first +, only because mornings are out for me! And I did not want to wait the next nght just incase I were in 0+12 zone..

[TTC5]

But if mornings are ok for you, I would def wait it out till then!!

[sunnyebsh]

Tmw mornings is all good...he can start work late :) - thanks

[TTC5]

Good Luck!!!!!!!!!!

[Plum3]

Good luck Sunny!

[Cheekymoo]

Tmw mornings is all good...he can start work late :) - thanks

Good luck!

[DebH]

Ok, so here I sit with my phone in my pants fretting about the moon!

We tried the ew w/ ph 9.25. DH says that if it doesn't work we need to try preseed + bs (he said he could smell the egg and if he had known about that ahead of time he probably wouldn't be able to do it).

Anyone have other suggestions to counter ions? Is this considered new moon still? Can't stay inside today due to end of year beach party for DS.

Hope everyone has a great day!:bigsmile::celebrate:

[begonia]

Good luck Sunny and Deb! And Iluv, even though I know it wasn't like a full-on attempt ... I'd still be pumped to see you get a BFP :-)

Babydes I totally forgot yesterday to say how sucky it is when "friends" turn out not to be friends after all :-( I am so sorry you're having to deal with that fall out. I had a crap weekend but it was just that both the toilet and the washing machine overflowed everywhere ... that at least has some comedy to it and can be cleaned up with a wet/dry vac. If only friendship was so easy ...

Tink you crack me up :happy:

Dude DD2 is killing her chances of becoming a big sister lately :mad::rofl:

TTC5 you're ALMOST to where you actually could hope for an early positive! But POAS anyway :bigsmile:

[LolaInLove]

This is what I understand from the ladies, but you can do it how you feel and depends on your belief about doing it once or multiple attempts. Atomic has a couple of threads about this you might want to check out.

If you are trying multiple attempts you would have 3-5 days abstinence (Ideally, I will shoot for 4 days abstinence) before DTD on the 1st attempt. This 1st attempt would be on O-2 (2 days before O) then for the 2nd attempt DTD at O (which s/b 48 hrs after the last one). Ideal is to DTD 12-18 hrs after 1st real positive OPK.

If you just wanted to do it once (I remember thinking most people on Ig were doing this so I started out this way but am not just trying once) then you would do the 12-18 hrs after 1st OPK. You should still have EWCM and not sticky and clumpy which would be putting you in girl territory.

Lola, you can beat me if I'm wrong.

LOL, you are right on, Iluv. I tell you guys what, if I were under 30 and going for my first attempt, I would probably give the one shot deal with 3 or 4 days abstinence a shot, and try to dtd right on top of O. But, if that wasn't catching the egg, I would move to dtd on O-2 then O after a couple of failed one time shot attempts. That is what we did, and obviously, something wasn't working for well, 5 months. We got pg on the 6th month when we dtd every day. And we got pg on the next attempt after the m/c by dtd every day also.

Atomic just wrote an excellent essay about timing, and I totally agree with her: there is NO study that says timing matters. What matters is the other factors that you can manipulate to create the same effect as timing. So, for a boy, you want ewcm and hearty sperm.....the timing factor (initially from Shettles, but now the "IG" one we all cling on to) is to abstain for 4 days and only dtd once on top of O. That is accomplishing basically having more ewcm and hearty sperm. BUT, and this is what Atomic is saying, you can get ewcm with eggs or use preseed, have orgasms, and use supps, and you can give DH supps and a good diet to create good sperm. Also, sperm really do just fine in a younger healthy guy in 24 hours. The older they get, the more time they need to regenerate, but for the most part, you can dtd every 48 hours (even every 24) and still have good sperm. The difference is so minimal when men's levels were compared- like 10 million for a 1 day abstinence and 11 million for a 2 day. What you are really aiming for is yes, having your DH's sperm be healthy, but really having YOUR environment ready for a boy conception. If you are doing the diet well, and your body thinks you are living high on the hog, then it is more receptive to a male conception, you know, the old Trivers-Willard hypothesis. And you are creating nice ewcm or fake ewcm (via eggs or preseed) for a nice high-ish ph environment so the boys can get through the gates easily....you've got a higher sodium and potassium intake and that favors male conceptions (I believe this is proven)....and you are swaying boy like a MOFO. All this being said, I don't think it's worth it to worry about the timing so much. When I say I would try the one shot deal, if I were younger, I would do it the first month, maybe two, but if it wasn't working, I would worry more about catching that egg and just dtd every other day. In fact, we plan to dtd according to the SMEP/Deanna's plan I posted earlier, which Atomic actually recommended to me.

So, that's my 2 cents on the timing. But Tink, you are doing the right thing and tracking your cycles, I am doing the same right now. And please do have a cookie.

[LolaInLove]

Haha, we did as well, basically every day until the day after O. No wonder we have girls.

LOTS of boy moms did the same thing! You probably had an internal enviroment more favorable to girl conceptions, Bec. I know I did, so no matter how much we dtd, I was most likely going to make girls.

With this timing thing again, think about how many boys are in the world right now and that 99% of them were conceived with no swaying. Those folks were just BONKING (my new fave word, thanks TTC%) daily....they were doing it daily for sure, maybe twice a day if they were ttc! I will get off my timing bandwagon now....I just think our time is better spent worrying about other things like seeing how the supps affect your cycle and cm and crap like that.

[LolaInLove]

I'd bd tomorrow morning if you can elevate your hips for a bit before having to jump up, otherwise I would go tonight.

:agree:Right on ya, girl.

[LolaInLove]

Tonight? I thought we should BD 12 hours after 1st + ???

If you can't do it in the morning, then go tonight....better earlier than later when you cm turns creamy (the O+12 territory that the girl swayers aim for....and when I conceived BOTH my girls....I thought I was done ovulating so we dtd for fun. Bam, girls.)

[LolaInLove]

Ok, so here I sit with my phone in my pants fretting about the moon!

We tried the ew w/ ph 9.25. DH says that if it doesn't work we need to try preseed + bs (he said he could smell the egg and if he had known about that ahead of time he probably wouldn't be able to do it).

Anyone have other suggestions to counter ions? Is this considered new moon still? Can't stay inside today due to end of year beach party for DS.

Hope everyone has a great day!:bigsmile::celebrate:

Hey there Deb, welcome to the crazy blue thread! Honestly, none of us put too much stock in the moon and chinese calendar mularky. BUT, I think most of us do indeed try to do something with the ions in putting our cell phones in our panties for an hour or two while you lay there after dtd, and also jumping on the old laptop and posting about your exploits on this thread while your DH grumbles about you doing so. Those two seem to be easy to do and do throw off tons of +ions.

And I hear ya about the egg smell, after we had our 1st ew attempt (back in the day) I thought I had made a freaking meringue pie in my crotch. I'll tell you, I personally do not believe that ew are necessary for a good blue sway, but there are people who will say they think preseed sways girl because they had a girl with it. Especially if you throw a bit of bs in it. But, if this month doesn't work and you try again and decide to do ew again, you only need the SMALLEST amount of it. You know, we don't naturally have 5ml of ew falling out of our vags. When I do preseed, I put some up there and then sit on the pot and squeeze the excess out just in case. I really don't think you need much at all. GOOD LUCK!

[LolaInLove]

Well, I got a +opk last night on CD11, just like I did the month I took DHEA before. I am just tracking this month, though. And we dtd 3 days ago....eeek. Oh well. Just like Iluv, it is what it is.

[3Pink1Blue]

Tink - yeah it's funny how you spend so much time peeing on things. After all these months of ttc it's weird to not have to pee on anything anymore lol You are in good company though there are a scary lot of poas addicts here, just look at ttc5 :)

Sunny - good luck hun! I'm with Lola and Atomic on timing, we did the one shot thing when I got my bfp last Aug, but abandoned it very quickly this time around. We shoot for O-2 and O but basically go till the cm changes, as soon as it even starts to turn we quit.

Deb- my dh hated the egg as well, I did too, seriously messy stuff. Luckily my cm had become out of control and we didn't need it the last few months. FX for you!

ttc5 - fx for your early bfp soon!

Lola - always the voice of wisdom.

[LolaInLove]

Well, I've been at it long enough! I think I have read and practiced swaying enough to have a degree in it by now.

On the poas note, pee away (on your DH is up to you). On the cm note, I hope I don't have to use anything myself but a bit of preseed for lube.

[3Pink1Blue]

Lola - I hear ya, I've been obsessing about this for 18ish months. I feel like I could conduct a seminar with IG and GD sections lol Let's just hope we can get the results of our effort.

FX for excellent cm! I never thought I'd be able to dtd without some sort of lube so I know you can do it!

[hope.ful]

Yes, this is exactly why I am doing this all now, So I can have it figured out for Sept! Thanks everyone!!! sorry for all the questions.

Are you tracking your temperatures? I would try to mesh the low temperature with the OPK +. GL!!

[LolaInLove]

Aaaaaand this is why you shouldn't dtd unprotected after CD8 or so.....I have a freaking O-3 cutoff if I ovulate today, which I probably am (early, only CD12), thanks to the DHEA I'm taking. Hooray.....and haven't been doing diet at all. If I get pg, it is a girl, for sure! Oh well, she is welcome anytime.

[hope.ful]

Thanks so much for the info about the OPK's. I wasn't drinking anything 2 hours prior but I was peeing in between! I don't have time to purchase the OPKs off of eBay/Internet so what kind do you guys buy? Someone said the digital ones work well...any suggestions? GL to all the TWWers!! Can't wait to hear the good news!

I'm like you ladies. I had no problems conceiving my 2 DDs...only DTD one time with DD2 and we just can't believe we're not pg this month. But I'm kindof glad bc I can keep playing softball for another month, and our timing was off so we probably would have been in the girl zone. It's all in the Lord's hands, but it's fun to try for a boy!! =)

[3Pink1Blue]

Lola - Never thought I'd say this but I know you wanted to wait a few more months so fx for af, but if not that's one determined little critter :)

Hope.ful - it suck but yep few fluid AND no peeing for two hours. Glad you figured it what was up before many more months of frustration. What we do to try to tip the scales :rolleyes:

[Tink18]

Hope: I am tracking my temp, they haven't changed at all, I just peed, Hooray! it's like xmas! I get so excited to pee on stuff now, no wonder dogs pee on everything! Anyway, I got a 2 major pink lines at 9:15. Still feeling all the same cramps as I did yesterday. Which my entire life I have always been able to feel myself ovulate. So Lola, mentioned age, I am at the cut off! I am 29!! ...So what do you think would be best? should I do the 0- 2? or just the O Ill be 30 in Feb but we will TTC before then and hopefully get pregnant before then FX!!

Lola, can you just write me plan, laminated and come stay with me? lol. Pretty please! I am back to being confuesed again and last week I felt slightly confident in my plan.

[LolaInLove]

Jen, I am so with you on that! I just texted DH and was like "Should we just go for it tonight?" He is maintaining that we chill out and just hope it's a no go, but he said, "You know how I feel about gender" when I griped about it being a perfect girl sway. I mean, we used regular old lube (KY) and everything!!! And I haven't been doing the diet or drinks, ugh. He would love a girl, but it would just KILL me to spend close to a year with all this stuff only to get pg on my sway break with a perfect girl sway! Wouldn't you just want to ceaselessly kick yourself? Of course, if it ended up being a healthy little girl, then, ya know, that's all good, but still!!!!

I do have faith that swaying works, ladies, I will tell you that. Not every time, like a guarantee, but out of everyone in the past year who swayed boy that I know about from here and IG, it's about 2 girls and 10 boys!

[LolaInLove]

Tink, it is totally up to you, but I don't think 29 is old at all....you could go either way. So, since you can likely get pg pretty easily and quickly, you may want to give the one shot a try the first month? Try for a 3-4 day cut off for your DH, then just bd one time about 12-18 hours after your 1st +opk. Lots of ladies have made boys that way, but I don't think it has to be done that way at all. There is a thread about which sperm would make it to the egg first which I found really intriguing.....would the older sperm or the new sperm? Most think the older as it is capacitized and waiting for the egg before the new sperm. (That is the process of the sperm shedding their exoskelelon-like head armor so it can penetrate the egg, and it takes about 3-4 hours I think....which is why it is better to dtd earlier than later on O day.) The one shot ladies had their DH not ejac in them at all before the attempt, kwim. So, they knew which batch was making the baby.

I would do whatever you feel most comfortable with, but for sure, I would do the diet 100% and take your supps and really try to up your ewcm (or use the fake ewcm- eggs or preseed). I really think those are the most important things in a sway....your diet and cm factor. Whether you dtd a lot or just once is the least factor to pay attention to, in my opinion. I will say that if you want to for sure get pg right away, I'd do it more. If you are on leisurely time table and would rather do as close to a perfect sway as possible, according to the old sources, then try the one hit wonder.

And OMG I am so not the one to ask for a swaying manual, hahaha....I have just learned from lots of mistakes in the past year, but I do really believe in the GD way of swaying and taking a more relaxed, do-what-you-can approach to it all. Trust me, when you do it hard core for a while and get bfns and have m/c, it will indeed make you CRAZY.....lots of us long-timers have had to take breaks and chill on the swaying to prevent divorce and insanity!

[begonia]

Lola, that is cray-Z about your "accident" ... but it is what it is, and I'm with Jen ... that would be one determined little bean! And it totally could still be a boy if you are pg.

ITA by the way that I think swaying works. I used to be more on the fence about it, but having seen SO many sways and the outcomes in the last 9 months, I am with you ... it really seems to be about 80/20. And I also agree that DIET DIET DIET is key.

I'd love to hit timing right but the odds are we won't. Dh doesn't want to sway (though I know he would love a son.. I think he doesn't want to get his hopes up honestly) so it isn't like he's going to be cool with NOT BD for 4 days, LOL. We aren't like horny teenagers or anything but 4 day abstinence will be hard to pull off. I'll probably get an 0-2 and an 0. We'll see.

Today I was wondering if I already had a boy and a girl what I would want for #3. I definitely want 3 (though these days I can't say why, for crying out loud my kids are crazy lately) but I wonder if I had one of each if I'd have a preference. Hard to say.

Gotta run so sorry no personals but hope everyone is doing well! Haven't seen TTC5 post this am so will assume she's busy POAS :-)

[babydes56]

Aaaaaand this is why you shouldn't dtd unprotected after CD8 or so.....I have a freaking O-3 cutoff if I ovulate today, which I probably am (early, only CD12), thanks to the DHEA I'm taking. Hooray.....and haven't been doing diet at all. If I get pg, it is a girl, for sure! Oh well, she is welcome anytime.

Wow, thought you were going to wait for a bit. Did you not expect to have a +opk. Will you dtd again today. GL, you never know it could a boy. I sooo agree with you & atomic that diet is the most important thing in swaying, i also think since the Shettles method we find it difficult to get the timing method out of our heads i mean take a look at the many FF charts that prove that you can get a boy with frequent bding

[babydes56]

Lola, that is cray-Z about your "accident" ... but it is what it is, and I'm with Jen ... that would be one determined little bean! And it totally could still be a boy if you are pg.

ITA by the way that I think swaying works. I used to be more on the fence about it, but having seen SO many sways and the outcomes in the last 9 months, I am with you ... it really seems to be about 80/20. And I also agree that DIET DIET DIET is key.


I'd love to hit timing right but the odds are we won't. Dh doesn't want to sway (though I know he would love a son.. I think he doesn't want to get his hopes up honestly) so it isn't like he's going to be cool with NOT BD for 4 days, LOL. We aren't like horny teenagers or anything but 4 day abstinence will be hard to pull off. I'll probably get an 0-2 and an 0. We'll see.

Today I was wondering if I already had a boy and a girl what I would want for #3. I definitely want 3 (though these days I can't say why, for crying out loud my kids are crazy lately) but I wonder if I had one of each if I'd have a preference. Hard to say.

Gotta run so sorry no personals but hope everyone is doing well! Haven't seen TTC5 post this am so will assume she's busy POAS :-)

I too would love to hit timing with abstinence but with my irregular cycles there's no way in hell it can happen for me. You ladies with cycles that know that cd14 is ovulation are damn lucky, it's easy then to plan your abstinence etc. Lucky, lucky you

[LolaInLove]

Wow, thought you were going to wait for a bit. Did you not expect to have a +opk. Will you dtd again today. GL, you never know it could a boy. I sooo agree with you & atomic that diet is the most important thing in swaying, i also think since the Shettles method we find it difficult to get the timing method out of our heads i mean take a look at the many FF charts that prove that you can get a boy with frequent bding

We are waiting till August....this last bd was just fun bd last weekend, and the last unprotected one before I hit the O phase, but lo and behold, I got an early ovulation. I mean, I seriously doubt it will get me preggers, but you never know. We are not going to dtd again, just let it go and hope its a bfn. I will admit I'm a bit nervous though. It would be JUST MY LUCK!

[babydes56]

I see, it's typical though isnt it. I really hope it's a bfn but if not you'll still have yourself a healthy baby boy/girl. Oh you did ask if DH had a sperm analysis, yes he did & it was great. I had gone on about him quitting smoking & was kinda hoping that the test would prove that he needed to stop but when we got the results & they were good he was like "see i'm fine". I was happy the results were good but was also hoping the result would make him stop smoking

[babydes56]

I was reading about IUI earlier & apparently when they wash the sperm & spin whatever that means they can sort for male/female & up your chances for one or the other. I dont know if they'll do it though.

[3Pink1Blue]

Lola - I would be forever grouchy about it. I'm a tiny bit nervous because I laid off the diet for 5-6 days before we decided to give it one more shot. I was still eating lots of potassium and salt but I was off potatoes and bread. Atomic doesn't seem to think a week makes a difference but if this baby is a girl it'll always be in the back of my head.

I really wish I'd started swaying with gd, DH didn't want to sway after the m/c because I was so miserable the first time around and there was no room for complaining on IG. Until the m/c the the day I posted my sway was the last day I logged in because of how tense it was. We are both so grateful I found this site.

Tink - I'm with Lola on the age thing, 29 is not time to panic. Many of us are well into our 30's and our sway journey. Don't abandon anything after the first month. You've still got time, keep asking questions and keeping track and you'll figure out what works best for you.

[Tink18]

Thanks guys. You are all the best, I really appreciate everything, being a newbie and all!

It's what i plan to do, Is track till Aug and regroup then. Hopefully have this all figured out by then, diets, supps. When to do the BD. Come Sept hopefully make our first attempt and then go from there.

Thank god Dh bought a new tv this weekend, he goes "you are obsessed with this website" now he has a boner over his new tv and he leaves me alone.

[babydes56]

Jen, i wouldnt worry about 5-6 days off potatoes because the egg that made the baby you carrying now was made 3mnths ago. I'd say your sway was great & you have a huge chance that it's a boy.

Sorry to hear that things were tense for you for a while, the stress of swaying can have a negative effect on couples. I'm hoping i dont get to a stage where DH are fighting about trying because if i dont conceive by next March i'm giving up & that wont sit very well with him. He doesnt understand that i NEVER wanted to be this old & still trying for a baby, crazy.

[babydes56]

Thanks guys. You are all the best, I really appreciate everything, being a newbie and all!

It's what i plan to do, Is track till Aug and regroup then. Hopefully have this all figured out by then, diets, supps. When to do the BD. Come Sept hopefully make our first attempt and then go from there.

Thank god Dh bought a new tv this weekend, he goes "you are obsessed with this website" now he has a boner over his new tv and he leaves me alone.

To funny about the TV boner! I'm sure you'll have all figured out by Sept. Just keep temping & learning your cycle, eat all the boy foods which are most important & you'll be good to go

[Tink18]

Is there any foods that are major boy no no's? and foods that are major boy helpers? I have read both IG's diets and this diet and seem to have picked out what i want to eat. But i am fearful for mixing in any no no's. Any advice?

[LolaInLove]

I was reading about IUI earlier & apparently when they wash the sperm & spin whatever that means they can sort for male/female & up your chances for one or the other. I dont know if they'll do it though.

Are you talking about Microsort? It's in approval land with the government in the US right now, but will be available again next year, I think. It only has like an 80% success rate or something not too great.

[LolaInLove]

Is there any foods that are major boy no no's? and foods that are major boy helpers? I have read both IG's diets and this diet and seem to have picked out what i want to eat. But i am fearful for mixing in any no no's. Any advice?

Not really, just not too much mercury fish.....Atomic just wrote an awesome post about diet....I think it's called the High Everything for a Boy diet or something like that. It's pretty easy for the boy diet, just make sure you are eating a steady amount during the day so your blood sugar is level all day, and try to eat protein and carbs together for the same reason. And if you do dairy, do full fat. Def read her posts, they are long and informative!

[LolaInLove]

3PNB, I hear you....don't worry though, there is nothing you can do now. I am hoping that we have residual sway still in us for all these months! And a few days off won't matter much. Hell, lots of the girl swayers ate zero salt and potassium and still got boys, I think they have more "failures" than us....but not sure why there. I think it's because they eat so much dairy, which has a ton of nutrients in it, kwim? Just keep yo chin up and don't stress.

I will tell you guys what, if I do get pg from this swaying break slip-up, we are NOT finding out the gender! I will just assume it's a girl all along and get super excited about it, then if its a boy in the end, well, that will be a happy surprise. I really don't think I will be though.

Watch....I just jinxed myself. DELETE ABOVE COMMENT

[iluvmyman]

LOL, you are right on, Iluv. I tell you guys what, if I were under 30 and going for my first attempt, I would probably give the one shot deal with 3 or 4 days abstinence a shot, and try to dtd right on top of O. But, if that wasn't catching the egg, I would move to dtd on O-2 then O after a couple of failed one time shot attempts. That is what we did, and obviously, something wasn't working for well, 5 months. We got pg on the 6th month when we dtd every day. And we got pg on the next attempt after the m/c by dtd every day also.

Atomic just wrote an excellent essay about timing, and I totally agree with her: there is NO study that says timing matters. What matters is the other factors that you can manipulate to create the same effect as timing. So, for a boy, you want ewcm and hearty sperm.....the timing factor (initially from Shettles, but now the "IG" one we all cling on to) is to abstain for 4 days and only dtd once on top of O. That is accomplishing basically having more ewcm and hearty sperm. BUT, and this is what Atomic is saying, you can get ewcm with eggs or use preseed, have orgasms, and use supps, and you can give DH supps and a good diet to create good sperm. Also, sperm really do just fine in a younger healthy guy in 24 hours. The older they get, the more time they need to regenerate, but for the most part, you can dtd every 48 hours (even every 24) and still have good sperm. The difference is so minimal when men's levels were compared- like 10 million for a 1 day abstinence and 11 million for a 2 day. What you are really aiming for is yes, having your DH's sperm be healthy, but really having YOUR environment ready for a boy conception. If you are doing the diet well, and your body thinks you are living high on the hog, then it is more receptive to a male conception, you know, the old Trivers-Willard hypothesis. And you are creating nice ewcm or fake ewcm (via eggs or preseed) for a nice high-ish ph environment so the boys can get through the gates easily....you've got a higher sodium and potassium intake and that favors male conceptions (I believe this is proven)....and you are swaying boy like a MOFO. All this being said, I don't think it's worth it to worry about the timing so much. When I say I would try the one shot deal, if I were younger, I would do it the first month, maybe two, but if it wasn't working, I would worry more about catching that egg and just dtd every other day. In fact, we plan to dtd according to the SMEP/Deanna's plan I posted earlier, which Atomic actually recommended to me.

So, that's my 2 cents on the timing. But Tink, you are doing the right thing and tracking your cycles, I am doing the same right now. And please do have a cookie.

Beautiful, beautiful summary Mrs. Thing. I love it and I think you are right on the money, honey! I'm not sure what I'd do w/o you here. I'm so excited I don't get a verbal beating from you, yay! :)

[iluvmyman]

Hey there Deb, welcome to the crazy blue thread! Honestly, none of us put too much stock in the moon and chinese calendar mularky. BUT, I think most of us do indeed try to do something with the ions in putting our cell phones in our panties for an hour or two while you lay there after dtd, and also jumping on the old laptop and posting about your exploits on this thread while your DH grumbles about you doing so. Those two seem to be easy to do and do throw off tons of +ions.

And I hear ya about the egg smell, after we had our 1st ew attempt (back in the day) I thought I had made a freaking meringue pie in my crotch. I'll tell you, I personally do not believe that ew are necessary for a good blue sway, but there are people who will say they think preseed sways girl because they had a girl with it. Especially if you throw a bit of bs in it. But, if this month doesn't work and you try again and decide to do ew again, you only need the SMALLEST amount of it. You know, we don't naturally have 5ml of ew falling out of our vags. When I do preseed, I put some up there and then sit on the pot and squeeze the excess out just in case. I really don't think you need much at all. GOOD LUCK!

WOW! that was so funny Lola...lemon meringue, you crack me up. I think my DH would prefer not to use the EW's but he's willing to do it for me. I still look at ion and do have some pluses, like an electric blanket on low (of coarse, i think it might not be working after I washed it) computer laptop and large tv, computer and stuff in my small bedroom. I cycle doesn't work w/ the full moon right now but I did notice some larger solar flares this week and the 5th/Sunday had a big solar flare. I don't blow dry my hair or anything since I just don't and I also have an ionic hairdryer so I try not to use it. Obviously I'm just a vision of beauty all of the time for DH. :) If you are using the air conditioner that's good ions too. Just something to do if you can but I don't know anyone that makes a huge deal out of it, just do what you can.

[3Pink1Blue]

Baby- yeah I was pretty miserable in my last sway. I was following the ig diet which was so painfully limited an only lifted weights. Ig had me so convinced that if I didn't do each factor to the max I would surely fail. The tracking minerals alone could drive you mad. Tg I got my bfp first month or I'd a lost my mind lol

Lola - I'm not real worried about it, I was very good with my diet and sups but I'm sure I'll blame it if it's a girl lol Over all I'm super happy knowing I'm not broken and just super happy to have a ticker again :)

Iluv- ita I still get giddy knowing I won't get my ass chewed no matter what I ask or whine about.

[Plum3]

LOL, you are right on, Iluv. I tell you guys what, if I were under 30 and going for my first attempt, I would probably give the one shot deal with 3 or 4 days abstinence a shot, and try to dtd right on top of O. But, if that wasn't catching the egg, I would move to dtd on O-2 then O after a couple of failed one time shot attempts. That is what we did, and obviously, something wasn't working for well, 5 months. We got pg on the 6th month when we dtd every day. And we got pg on the next attempt after the m/c by dtd every day also.

Atomic just wrote an excellent essay about timing, and I totally agree with her: there is NO study that says timing matters. What matters is the other factors that you can manipulate to create the same effect as timing. So, for a boy, you want ewcm and hearty sperm.....the timing factor (initially from Shettles, but now the "IG" one we all cling on to) is to abstain for 4 days and only dtd once on top of O. That is accomplishing basically having more ewcm and hearty sperm. BUT, and this is what Atomic is saying, you can get ewcm with eggs or use preseed, have orgasms, and use supps, and you can give DH supps and a good diet to create good sperm. Also, sperm really do just fine in a younger healthy guy in 24 hours. The older they get, the more time they need to regenerate, but for the most part, you can dtd every 48 hours (even every 24) and still have good sperm. The difference is so minimal when men's levels were compared- like 10 million for a 1 day abstinence and 11 million for a 2 day. What you are really aiming for is yes, having your DH's sperm be healthy, but really having YOUR environment ready for a boy conception. If you are doing the diet well, and your body thinks you are living high on the hog, then it is more receptive to a male conception, you know, the old Trivers-Willard hypothesis. And you are creating nice ewcm or fake ewcm (via eggs or preseed) for a nice high-ish ph environment so the boys can get through the gates easily....you've got a higher sodium and potassium intake and that favors male conceptions (I believe this is proven)....and you are swaying boy like a MOFO. All this being said, I don't think it's worth it to worry about the timing so much. When I say I would try the one shot deal, if I were younger, I would do it the first month, maybe two, but if it wasn't working, I would worry more about catching that egg and just dtd every other day. In fact, we plan to dtd according to the SMEP/Deanna's plan I posted earlier, which Atomic actually recommended to me.

So, that's my 2 cents on the timing. But Tink, you are doing the right thing and tracking your cycles, I am doing the same right now. And please do have a cookie.

The more I read about timing the more I am believing that it is other factors that contribute to conceiving a boy. When we TTC I am only going to try the one shot DTD for the first month. If we don't fall pregnant with that we'll do it more often. I can't afford to much around too long when on Clomid.

Great info, thanks!

[Plum3]

I too would love to hit timing with abstinence but with my irregular cycles there's no way in hell it can happen for me. You ladies with cycles that know that cd14 is ovulation are damn lucky, it's easy then to plan your abstinence etc. Lucky, lucky you

Oh, how I would love to have regular cycles. I don't even O on my own normally so I don't have any hope of timing with abstinence anyway.

[Plum3]

We are waiting till August....this last bd was just fun bd last weekend, and the last unprotected one before I hit the O phase, but lo and behold, I got an early ovulation. I mean, I seriously doubt it will get me preggers, but you never know. We are not going to dtd again, just let it go and hope its a bfn. I will admit I'm a bit nervous though. It would be JUST MY LUCK!

It's always the damn way isn't it? Never wished a BFN on anyone so you are the first. Imagine if it was a bfp with a boy though!

[My Fabulous Children]

OMG really? I was taking both of two together!!!!!! =(

Yeah I learned about this from the other site.

[My Fabulous Children]

Hi ladies! So much to catch up on, our thread moves fast these days. Had a crap weekend and am glad we are attempting next week not this week, b/c if I was due to O right now DH and I would both be like, H-NO we don't want to get pg, LOL. Anyhow one of the crap things is my DD2 is sick again ... poor kiddo picks up every virus around I swear.

Hope.ful I'm so sorry to hear about the BFN! I am with Lola on the OPK, where I know mine get CLEARLY positive. But it sounds like Jen has had some like you describe, so maybe that is just how a + looks for you?

Sunnye how long have you been taking all of those supps? B/c ITA that the combo you're taking could definitely change your cycle. Just wondering if you were taking them last cycle and noticed anything different then.

Jen your ticker is so fun to watch :-)

TTC5 when will you test? You're 5DPO know right?

Babydes how about you? You must be getting close to knowing. I really, really hope this is your month!!!

Tink do you have a usual date you ovulate? With a 25 day cycle I think the advice you got to test CD8 is perfect. I usually start then too, b/c I have O'd as early as day 10 twice now, but it is much more standard for me to O CD14.

Well AF is over for me so now I'm just waiting for signs of O! Last month was CD10 but I really think this month will be closer to CD14, and I'm CD6 now. I've already decided I'm not going to stress about timing. We aren't going to DTD every day or anything but I'm totally fine with it if we end up DTD every other day from now to O. We shall see how it works out though; I'd be happy if our timing naturally coincided with a +OPK and abstinence but I'm not trying too hard to force it.

Are you trying this cycle?

[Plum3]

Thanks guys. You are all the best, I really appreciate everything, being a newbie and all!

It's what i plan to do, Is track till Aug and regroup then. Hopefully have this all figured out by then, diets, supps. When to do the BD. Come Sept hopefully make our first attempt and then go from there.

Thank god Dh bought a new tv this weekend, he goes "you are obsessed with this website" now he has a boner over his new tv and he leaves me alone.

You make me laugh. My DH is the same with his xbox. He whines that I am on this new website all night these days.

[iluvmyman]

Well, I got a +opk last night on CD11, just like I did the month I took DHEA before. I am just tracking this month, though. And we dtd 3 days ago....eeek. Oh well. Just like Iluv, it is what it is.

Speaking of my new found attitude, this is the month I'm getting a BFP for sure. Why you ask? Because I've done everything wrong. :)

I s/h at least taken Mucinex last night. I think I might have even lied about the fading in too since it's pretty close today color wise and I feel like I might be O. I bet I might get a + one tonight, CD14 (of coarse since last night was the last time we'll see each other till Friday night.) I won't have any smiley OPK's to confirm those colored lines. I did no Ew's or mucinex or caffeine last night for our shower lovin. I have no PH tester so no clue what PH is, been questionable about the diet and DH isn't doing any supps right now. CM doesn't look good but hoping it's good up in the cervix since it was good the 2 days or so before today.

LOL! The things I have going for me are: at least I dtd hopefully somewhere around O (depending on my O tests) and I'm eating pretty heartily or "high on the hog" as you said Mrs. Lola. We'll see, just seems like this would be the time since I've screwed it all up. A plus though is I'm really mellow today and I honestly feel so much better and less hormonal right now which I'm attributing to stopping those cycle messing supps! I handled 5 kids at the Dr.'s office pretty freakin good if I do say so myself.

P.S. no URAL or any boy drinks either. Not even AF-O. I'm way dumb this month.

[iluvmyman]

Aaaaaand this is why you shouldn't dtd unprotected after CD8 or so.....I have a freaking O-3 cutoff if I ovulate today, which I probably am (early, only CD12), thanks to the DHEA I'm taking. Hooray.....and haven't been doing diet at all. If I get pg, it is a girl, for sure! Oh well, she is welcome anytime.

Doh! I so feel you right now on this. I bet that's how it will be. I'm waiting for my BFP too since it all was wrong. LOl! Nothing like earning that degree in swaying and just using it for toilet paper. :) Too funny.

[My Fabulous Children]

Hi ladies, hope you all had a fab weekend. I didnt, had a fall out with someone i thought was friend but turned out they were just using me the whole time, ah well we live & learn. Lola, Begonia thanks for all the luck but i'm not hopeful. I'm 10dpo so should be testing by thurs.

Begoina, great to see you'll be making your attempt soon

TTC5, have you had any more symptoms besides the sharp pain in both your ovaries?

Lola, how's it going with the dieting? Have you started the DHEA or are you not bothering with it

Jen, How you feeling? Do you feel preg yet?

Sorry if i've forgotten some people i'm just trying to catch up

Sorry to hear about that hun, That's why I don't have friends I know they're bunch of BS. I try my best to stay away from others. Try to relax. x

[My Fabulous Children]

I'm having way better CM in general now that I'm off the FertileCM

Off the L'arg and my CM is way better.

[iluvmyman]

Thanks so much for the info about the OPK's. I wasn't drinking anything 2 hours prior but I was peeing in between! I don't have time to purchase the OPKs off of eBay/Internet so what kind do you guys buy? Someone said the digital ones work well...any suggestions? GL to all the TWWers!! Can't wait to hear the good news!

I'm like you ladies. I had no problems conceiving my 2 DDs...only DTD one time with DD2 and we just can't believe we're not pg this month. But I'm kindof glad bc I can keep playing softball for another month, and our timing was off so we probably would have been in the girl zone. It's all in the Lord's hands, but it's fun to try for a boy!! =)

The digitals are amazing, just crazy expensive at like $28 for 7 or 8 tests. I think any are good. Even $ dollar store ones will work. If you aren't POAS constantly, it might be worth getting the digital and be worry free as far as reading lines.

[iluvmyman]

Hope: I am tracking my temp, they haven't changed at all, I just peed, Hooray! it's like xmas! I get so excited to pee on stuff now, no wonder dogs pee on everything! Anyway, I got a 2 major pink lines at 9:15. Still feeling all the same cramps as I did yesterday. Which my entire life I have always been able to feel myself ovulate. So Lola, mentioned age, I am at the cut off! I am 29!! ...So what do you think would be best? should I do the 0- 2? or just the O Ill be 30 in Feb but we will TTC before then and hopefully get pregnant before then FX!!

Lola, can you just write me plan, laminated and come stay with me? lol. Pretty please! I am back to being confuesed again and last week I felt slightly confident in my plan.

Rock on about feeling O, that's great. I'm just now at 35 figuring out about feeling nauseas during O and about CM too. So sad. :) You are cracking me up with the pee jokes.

The other depends on how important it is for you to get a BFP right away or if you are willing to try the one attempt for a few months. I did my very 1st attempt with just a once at O and I got a BFN. I was so disappointed that I realized I just wasn't willing to wait for months with the 1 try and as Lola & Atomic said timing isn't as important if you are doing everything else. I think only experience will get you to find out where you are truly at during swaying. Your ideals might change and are probably expected to change as you go along. Hopefully you get a BFP 1st attempt and then you won't have to bother with it. :)

[My Fabulous Children]

Yup no more hormone messing supps for me, and like I said CM is so much better and I even took O test today and yesterday since CM is so good but negative. DH and I are out of town a lot this month so we'll be DTD before we leave and after just to try and cover bases but I really have no idea what my cycles will be like this month now. I'm afraid we'll miss O this cycle but I'm not going to stress if I can help it.

GL on the testing. I better sex drive and more energy in the a.m., sign me up for DHEA too. ) Krill Oil is a big thing right now, recommended in replace of Cod live oil a lot but I haven't heard of them taking just the red stuff from them for antioxidants. Hmmmmm.

I'll try to get in for my thyroid test tomorrow morning but I won't be online much Tuesday night - Friday since I'll be out w/ my 2 girl friends and all the kids at DF1's lake house. I love having giving friends w/ money. :) Too bad the weather is so wacky here in CA.

I am not going to take any hormone supp's either! NO MORE. And Yes CM is much better. Hope you don't miss O, Good luck to you. Have fun!

[My Fabulous Children]

Hopeful, I'm so sorry af showed. I hope you have better luck this cycle- Hugs!

[iluvmyman]

Jen, I am so with you on that! I just texted DH and was like "Should we just go for it tonight?" He is maintaining that we chill out and just hope it's a no go, but he said, "You know how I feel about gender" when I griped about it being a perfect girl sway. I mean, we used regular old lube (KY) and everything!!! And I haven't been doing the diet or drinks, ugh. He would love a girl, but it would just KILL me to spend close to a year with all this stuff only to get pg on my sway break with a perfect girl sway! Wouldn't you just want to ceaselessly kick yourself? Of course, if it ended up being a healthy little girl, then, ya know, that's all good, but still!!!!

I do have faith that swaying works, ladies, I will tell you that. Not every time, like a guarantee, but out of everyone in the past year who swayed boy that I know about from here and IG, it's about 2 girls and 10 boys!

I'll take those odds. :)

[My Fabulous Children]

OK, CM is looking pretty EW to me and is pretty abundant. I've taken O test yesterday and today but no positive. I just did the math and I guess if I go off of the last day of this last untimely AF I'm on CD13 today. I guess I shouldn't have DTD last night for any cutoff stuff. Oh well, I'll keep testing. Man, I guess I should order another pack of O tests. The last time I see him for the week is tonight. Ouch! :) Hope to get a positive tonight so we can DTD in the a.m. maybe or my body might just be messing w/ me again. I'll let you know if I get a positive but will DTD in the morning either way since it's our only shot for the rest of the week just in case.

If I do get a + opk, that would suck cuz if I just went to sleep last night when I wanted to we'd be perfect on a 4 day cut off i think. Oh well!

YAY for the EW :D Good luck to you.

[My Fabulous Children]

You might want to get a digital smiley OPK to confirm and that way you'll know better than judging lines. For me, a lot can mess w/ me not O but getting faint test lines.

ITA with that. Tink18 get a digital smiley OPK to confirm.

[My Fabulous Children]

Tink - Everyone fades in differently, I can get my first faint 4 days before I actually O. Like temping, opk's are one of those things that can take a few months to figure out your personal pattern.

And I can get my first faint 7 days before I ovulated, lines OPKS are very confusing to me so I use digital smiley to confirm along with other signs.

[iluvmyman]

I see, it's typical though isnt it. I really hope it's a bfn but if not you'll still have yourself a healthy baby boy/girl. Oh you did ask if DH had a sperm analysis, yes he did & it was great. I had gone on about him quitting smoking & was kinda hoping that the test would prove that he needed to stop but when we got the results & they were good he was like "see i'm fine". I was happy the results were good but was also hoping the result would make him stop smoking

My DH would have said the same thing. Good and bad, huh!? My DH isn't worried about his smoking. he's of the opinion that we conceived 2 boys while smoking so why stop. Plus it's just really really hard for him to stop. He quit hard drugs easier than cigarettes.

[My Fabulous Children]

Well my preg tests arrived today and the sad poas addict that I am just HAD to rip in to one, did not help that DH was standing by nagging me to anway, lol..


BFN as I thought being only 5dpo lmao! AND not FMU.

Waaay to early and you know it, LMAO! Hope soon you will get a BFP +++ x

[My Fabulous Children]

Hi! Have to say I have been more of a lurker than a joiner, but I'd like to participate in this group! Better late than never :)

1st attempt swaying in about 6 hours (who's counting???).

♥ DebH
♥ Swaying Status: Swaying NOW!
♥ TTC DC 4
♥ Your approach to blue sway: Diet (red meat, potatoes, tomato, v8, high potassium foods like banana and dried apricots, alkaline foods, salty food and cut out dairy and most sugar - too hard on that one not to cheat here and there), tons of lemon water, green tea. Supps (folic, epo, fish oil, l arg), mucinex plain af to o, 3 packet knox blocks recipe daily (Jen's recipe with the blueberry pom - yum). Added weights to workout. DH supps (fish oil, B12, l arg, folic, zinc), baking soda drink for both. DH switched to boxers. BSF, and plan to use davidson's egg white (tested one today at 9.5).

Welcome and good luck!

[TTC5]

Yeah I learned about this from the other site.

Oh great so what does this mean for me now I took both :(

[iluvmyman]

Thanks guys. You are all the best, I really appreciate everything, being a newbie and all!

It's what i plan to do, Is track till Aug and regroup then. Hopefully have this all figured out by then, diets, supps. When to do the BD. Come Sept hopefully make our first attempt and then go from there.

Thank god Dh bought a new tv this weekend, he goes "you are obsessed with this website" now he has a boner over his new tv and he leaves me alone.

I just noticed you became a full fledged member, nice!

[My Fabulous Children]

Hot burning ear lobes at 5dpo, what do you ladies think lol

Yep SS again ;)

I have a feeling you will get your BFP this month, Really. x

[iluvmyman]

3PNB, I hear you....don't worry though, there is nothing you can do now. I am hoping that we have residual sway still in us for all these months! And a few days off won't matter much. Hell, lots of the girl swayers ate zero salt and potassium and still got boys, I think they have more "failures" than us....but not sure why there. I think it's because they eat so much dairy, which has a ton of nutrients in it, kwim? Just keep yo chin up and don't stress.

I will tell you guys what, if I do get pg from this swaying break slip-up, we are NOT finding out the gender! I will just assume it's a girl all along and get super excited about it, then if its a boy in the end, well, that will be a happy surprise. I really don't think I will be though.

Watch....I just jinxed myself. DELETE ABOVE COMMENT

LOL! I don't think I could handle not buying little boy clothes though.

[My Fabulous Children]

Did you have irregular cycles before the supps? I am trying to figure out of taking certain supps will regulate my cycles and help me O on my own.

My cycle was normal. No problem. Maybe you can try FUR to regulate your cycles. I've been taking it, but I didn't notice any change but maybe because I was taking the other supp's with it.

[iluvmyman]

Baby- yeah I was pretty miserable in my last sway. I was following the ig diet which was so painfully limited an only lifted weights. Ig had me so convinced that if I didn't do each factor to the max I would surely fail. The tracking minerals alone could drive you mad. Tg I got my bfp first month or I'd a lost my mind lol

Lola - I'm not real worried about it, I was very good with my diet and sups but I'm sure I'll blame it if it's a girl lol Over all I'm super happy knowing I'm not broken and just super happy to have a ticker again :)

Iluv- ita I still get giddy knowing I won't get my ass chewed no matter what I ask or whine about.

I guess I s/b very thankful that I didn't get too involved w/ commenting in IG, I just read a lot. I was very scared to get yelled at for asking a question that was already addressed in the guide. I understand that the ladies there were getting burnt out repeating themselves though. I don't want to burn out Atomic and so glad to have all of ya'll. I love it here, it's just taken a while to get IG out of my head and mellow out. I did get my money back or becoming a member since Gold didn't work. So glad we are here.

[My Fabulous Children]

Good luck Sunny and Deb!

[TTC5]

Lola, that is cray-Z about your "accident" ... but it is what it is, and I'm with Jen ... that would be one determined little bean! And it totally could still be a boy if you are pg.

ITA by the way that I think swaying works. I used to be more on the fence about it, but having seen SO many sways and the outcomes in the last 9 months, I am with you ... it really seems to be about 80/20. And I also agree that DIET DIET DIET is key.

I'd love to hit timing right but the odds are we won't. Dh doesn't want to sway (though I know he would love a son.. I think he doesn't want to get his hopes up honestly) so it isn't like he's going to be cool with NOT BD for 4 days, LOL. We aren't like horny teenagers or anything but 4 day abstinence will be hard to pull off. I'll probably get an 0-2 and an 0. We'll see.

Today I was wondering if I already had a boy and a girl what I would want for #3. I definitely want 3 (though these days I can't say why, for crying out loud my kids are crazy lately) but I wonder if I had one of each if I'd have a preference. Hard to say.

Gotta run so sorry no personals but hope everyone is doing well! Haven't seen TTC5 post this am so will assume she's busy POAS :-)

LOL!!!!!

[TTC5]

I have a feeling you will get your BFP this month, Really. x

I hope your right!! I had the worst dream last night that I found out I was pregnant and then I started bleeding really heavily :(

[iluvmyman]

Jen, i wouldnt worry about 5-6 days off potatoes because the egg that made the baby you carrying now was made 3mnths ago. I'd say your sway was great & you have a huge chance that it's a boy.

Sorry to hear that things were tense for you for a while, the stress of swaying can have a negative effect on couples. I'm hoping i dont get to a stage where DH are fighting about trying because if i dont conceive by next March i'm giving up & that wont sit very well with him. He doesnt understand that i NEVER wanted to be this old & still trying for a baby, crazy.

This makes me feel better.

[iluvmyman]

You make me laugh. My DH is the same with his xbox. He whines that I am on this new website all night these days.

My DH just plays games on-line on the computer and i type away while half watching t.v. most nights. I tell him we'll be the retried people of the new age, with both of us on our seperate electronics instead of rocking in our rocking chairs on the front porch.

[iluvmyman]

Sorry to hear about that hun, That's why I don't have friends I know they're bunch of BS. I try my best to stay away from others. Try to relax. x

Awww! I have a few friends that really really love me and I'd love to just have them in my life only. Some others I can do w/ o but you don't always have a choice w/ your circle of friends. I'm pretty lucky though.

[Tink18]

Oh yeah ILUV Im in the gang now...I got "gender dreaming tattooed across my knuckles! lol..i kid i kid. I think I am gonna go pee on my smiley face on now as soon as Have more pee! I have a 3 acquired right i think Ill upload the pic and let you guys see so you can tell me what the line mean if its faded or good? I want all your opinions since this is the first time I have ever done this.

[Tink18]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Tinkerb3ll18/OPK711.jpg

The above strips are things I have peed on, please give me your advice. I am going to pee on the smiley one when I have more pee available. Thanks! Off to boot camp! xoxo

[TTC5]

They are starting to fade in :)

[iluvmyman]

Oh yeah ILUV Im in the gang now...I got "gender dreaming tattooed across my knuckles! lol..i kid i kid. I think I am gonna go pee on my smiley face on now as soon as Have more pee! I have a 3 acquired right i think Ill upload the pic and let you guys see so you can tell me what the line mean if its faded or good? I want all your opinions since this is the first time I have ever done this.

Nice, I have a sleeve tat! LOL!

[iluvmyman]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Tinkerb3ll18/OPK711.jpg

The above strips are things I have peed on, please give me your advice. I am going to pee on the smiley one when I have more pee available. Thanks! Off to boot camp! xoxo

Nice! I'm thinking I might fade-in a little too. Looking good and just confirm with the smiley. Yay!

[Tink18]

They are starting to fade in :)

Wait I got one more!!!

[Tink18]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Tinkerb3ll18/OPKSMILEY6711.jpg

I took the tester out, because I know you all had mentioned the strips being an indicator as well of your ovulation.. But I got a smiley!!

Ok, now really Off to Boot camp!

[3Pink1Blue]

Bec - Here's my 2 cents on timing, if it was super important moms of all boys and all girls would all tell the same yet opposite stories.

iluv - I'm sure things will be just fine and sway degree as toilet paper :rofl:
I really hated asking for clarification on IG and getting sent back to the vague statement originally posted. I'm glad you got your money back, so many people didn't. I bought the membership in 2007, paid just once, and it wasn't cancelled till it broke lol
Dh and I often sit on opposite ends of the couch playing Words With Friends on our iPhones lol

Tink - woohoo for smiley's :)

[begonia]

Tink so fun! Now you know how to do the OPK dance! And you got your bootcamp on, nicely done!

Iluv that timing is crazy, of COURSE you get loads of EWCM and a +OPK now that you can't DTD! But I really really think timing is just not so key. But maybe that is just what I tell myself since I already know I'm not going to be DTD once on O day. (I'd get my account shut down on IG for uttering such disrespect :bigsmile:)

DH and I totally do the separate laptops at night. But his is usually work and mine is usually finally replying to emails I got during the day. Super exciting stuff at our house :wink:

MFC I am going to have an attempt this month! We're just going to see what happens. I O right around my birthday so it just seemed fun :happy: Can't say for sure if we'll keep at it after this or go back to waiting til October.

The only downside to attempting this month is I have girls night out 2 days before I'm due to O, and there's no way I'll be able to avoid cake and alcohol since my friends are celebrating my bday. And then of course on my actual birthday I'll have more cake :bigsmile: But it is what it is. If a slice of cake and a glass or two of wine undo all this other crap I've been doing for months, then CLEARLY all this other crap hasn't done much, IMHO. I have TOTALLY overhauled my diet and exercise for so long now that I either am a boy making machine or I'm not, and there's only one way to find out! Oh how I hope I am a boy making machine though... I would really love to have a son.

TTC5 I'm with MFC, I really feel like this could totally be a BFP for you. FX! Keep on POAS girl!

[TTC5]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Tinkerb3ll18/OPKSMILEY6711.jpg

I took the tester out, because I know you all had mentioned the strips being an indicator as well of your ovulation.. But I got a smiley!!

Ok, now really Off to Boot camp!

Fantastic!!! What cd are you again? x

[TTC5]

I'm feeling sooooo crappy today. I have cried twice today already and just feeling so sad that I am not pregnant... silly of me really as it is only my first month and there are ladies here going at it farrr longer than me :'(

[begonia]

Try to stay positive TTC5! You know you're testing way early so don't let the negs get you down. Chin up love! You have a great shot at a BFP!

[TTC5]

I think I am doing too much googling? Reading on people getting implantation spotting/dips/bla bla bla and I don't have those... still early though I know at 6dpo.. I just feel really flat today ... maybe that's a good sign? lol.....

[My Fabulous Children]

Aaaaaand this is why you shouldn't dtd unprotected after CD8 or so.....I have a freaking O-3 cutoff if I ovulate today, which I probably am (early, only CD12), thanks to the DHEA I'm taking. Hooray.....and haven't been doing diet at all. If I get pg, it is a girl, for sure! Oh well, she is welcome anytime.

WHAT!! Wow Lola, that's so crazy ..I believe that everything happens for a reason. Lets just wait and see.

[My Fabulous Children]

Wow, thought you were going to wait for a bit. Did you not expect to have a +opk. Will you dtd again today. GL, you never know it could a boy. I sooo agree with you & atomic that diet is the most important thing in swaying, i also think since the Shettles method we find it difficult to get the timing method out of our heads i mean take a look at the many FF charts that prove that you can get a boy with frequent bding

I agree.

Lola I would say your chances are 50/50 you never know what could happen.

[sunnyebsh]

So.....got a smiley (again this morning) & a 'peak' on my CBFM (just as I anticipated) & we DTD this morning....FX....praying soooo hard right now...

Can you please let me know what I'm supposed to be doing now...I read somewhere to keep up with the BSF...every couple of hours? Correct? If so, for how long...anything else?

Thanks.

[My Fabulous Children]

I too would love to hit timing with abstinence but with my irregular cycles there's no way in hell it can happen for me. You ladies with cycles that know that cd14 is ovulation are damn lucky, it's easy then to plan your abstinence etc. Lucky, lucky you

UGH, babydes, you're just like me :( I could have written this post. I feel exactly the same about timing. I hate my body.

[My Fabulous Children]

We are waiting till August....this last bd was just fun bd last weekend, and the last unprotected one before I hit the O phase, but lo and behold, I got an early ovulation. I mean, I seriously doubt it will get me preggers, but you never know. We are not going to dtd again, just let it go and hope its a bfn. I will admit I'm a bit nervous though. It would be JUST MY LUCK!

Hope it's a BFN ..I'm sorry you're going through this-hugs!

[TTC5]

So.....got a smiley (again this morning) & a 'peak' on my CBFM (just as I anticipated) & we DTD this morning....FX....praying soooo hard right now...

Can you please let me know what I'm supposed to be doing now...I read somewhere to keep up with the BSF...every couple of hours? Correct? If so, for how long...anything else?

Thanks.

Wooo Hooooooo yes keep up with the bs finger today :)

[My Fabulous Children]

Lola - I would be forever grouchy about it. I'm a tiny bit nervous because I laid off the diet for 5-6 days before we decided to give it one more shot. I was still eating lots of potassium and salt but I was off potatoes and bread. Atomic doesn't seem to think a week makes a difference but if this baby is a girl it'll always be in the back of my head.

I really wish I'd started swaying with gd, DH didn't want to sway after the m/c because I was so miserable the first time around and there was no room for complaining on IG. Until the m/c the the day I posted my sway was the last day I logged in because of how tense it was. We are both so grateful I found this site.

Tink - I'm with Lola on the age thing, 29 is not time to panic. Many of us are well into our 30's and our sway journey. Don't abandon anything after the first month. You've still got time, keep asking questions and keeping track and you'll figure out what works best for you.

I wouldn't worry about 5-6 days ..really not a big deal. You have a good chance for a boy, Think BLUE!!!

[My Fabulous Children]

Thanks guys. You are all the best, I really appreciate everything, being a newbie and all!

It's what i plan to do, Is track till Aug and regroup then. Hopefully have this all figured out by then, diets, supps. When to do the BD. Come Sept hopefully make our first attempt and then go from there.

Thank god Dh bought a new tv this weekend, he goes "you are obsessed with this website" now he has a boner over his new tv and he leaves me alone.

That's funny about the new TV, LOL.. I think your plan sounds great. Good luck!

[My Fabulous Children]

Oh great so what does this mean for me now I took both :(

Don't worry, it didn't effect your cycle anyways!

[My Fabulous Children]

I hope your right!! I had the worst dream last night that I found out I was pregnant and then I started bleeding really heavily :(

I'm sorry about the horrible dream you had last night-hugs! I hope and pray that nothing like that happens.

[My Fabulous Children]

Awww! I have a few friends that really really love me and I'd love to just have them in my life only. Some others I can do w/ o but you don't always have a choice w/ your circle of friends. I'm pretty lucky though.

You're lucky to have so good friends. I would love to have a good friend, but those people over here think they're just too much, LOL.

[My Fabulous Children]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Tinkerb3ll18/OPKSMILEY6711.jpg

I took the tester out, because I know you all had mentioned the strips being an indicator as well of your ovulation.. But I got a smiley!!

Ok, now really Off to Boot camp!

YAY!!!! I LOVE seeing the smiley face. Make me smile :)

[My Fabulous Children]

Tink so fun! Now you know how to do the OPK dance! And you got your bootcamp on, nicely done!

Iluv that timing is crazy, of COURSE you get loads of EWCM and a +OPK now that you can't DTD! But I really really think timing is just not so key. But maybe that is just what I tell myself since I already know I'm not going to be DTD once on O day. (I'd get my account shut down on IG for uttering such disrespect :bigsmile:)

DH and I totally do the separate laptops at night. But his is usually work and mine is usually finally replying to emails I got during the day. Super exciting stuff at our house :wink:

MFC I am going to have an attempt this month! We're just going to see what happens. I O right around my birthday so it just seemed fun :happy: Can't say for sure if we'll keep at it after this or go back to waiting til October.

The only downside to attempting this month is I have girls night out 2 days before I'm due to O, and there's no way I'll be able to avoid cake and alcohol since my friends are celebrating my bday. And then of course on my actual birthday I'll have more cake :bigsmile: But it is what it is. If a slice of cake and a glass or two of wine undo all this other crap I've been doing for months, then CLEARLY all this other crap hasn't done much, IMHO. I have TOTALLY overhauled my diet and exercise for so long now that I either am a boy making machine or I'm not, and there's only one way to find out! Oh how I hope I am a boy making machine though... I would really love to have a son.

TTC5 I'm with MFC, I really feel like this could totally be a BFP for you. FX! Keep on POAS girl!

Good luck on trying hun x. I know you have been doing really good, just becafule when going out with friends, LOL. Really. I know it's hard, but just try try try ... GL.

What CD are you on?

[Zivic-Bubac]

Positive ions sway girl How come? :confused: I thought + ions sway boy, that s why we use laptops, cell phones etc for purposes they weren t meant for lol!
Jen you got me confused :worry:

[Zivic-Bubac]

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG
348 Im so happy for you!!!! I wish you happiest and healthiest pregnancy in the world and a beautiful :xy: in about 9 months!!!!! :HH:

[TTC5]

How come? :confused: I thought + ions sway boy, that s why we use laptops, cell phones etc for purposes they weren t meant for lol!
Jen you got me confused :worry:

I think Jen said not that long ago she wasn't sure lol ;)

[babydes56]

Oh, how I would love to have regular cycles. I don't even O on my own normally so I don't have any hope of timing with abstinence anyway.

Bec, so glad to have you here because i now have someone who's in the same situation as me. You had to take clomid for your girls didnt you?

[babydes56]

Off the L'arg and my CM is way better.

That's great, i'm going to do the same & maybe add flaxseed oil too

[babydes56]

Speaking of my new found attitude, this is the month I'm getting a BFP for sure. Why you ask? Because I've done everything wrong. :)

I s/h at least taken Mucinex last night. I think I might have even lied about the fading in too since it's pretty close today color wise and I feel like I might be O. I bet I might get a + one tonight, CD14 (of coarse since last night was the last time we'll see each other till Friday night.) I won't have any smiley OPK's to confirm those colored lines. I did no Ew's or mucinex or caffeine last night for our shower lovin. I have no PH tester so no clue what PH is, been questionable about the diet and DH isn't doing any supps right now. CM doesn't look good but hoping it's good up in the cervix since it was good the 2 days or so before today.

LOL! The things I have going for me are: at least I dtd hopefully somewhere around O (depending on my O tests) and I'm eating pretty heartily or "high on the hog" as you said Mrs. Lola. We'll see, just seems like this would be the time since I've screwed it all up. A plus though is I'm really mellow today and I honestly feel so much better and less hormonal right now which I'm attributing to stopping those cycle messing supps! I handled 5 kids at the Dr.'s office pretty freakin good if I do say so myself.

P.S. no URAL or any boy drinks either. Not even AF-O. I'm way dumb this month.

How many months have you been on diet, i'm sure that will compensate for all the little things you didnt do this month

[babydes56]

My DH would have said the same thing. Good and bad, huh!? My DH isn't worried about his smoking. he's of the opinion that we conceived 2 boys while smoking so why stop. Plus it's just really really hard for him to stop. He quit hard drugs easier than cigarettes.

It's a tough one, i'm glad DH doesnt do hard drugs it's just the special ciggies he cant stop. In saying that i must say he has cut down from when i met him & also since we started swaying

[babydes56]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Tinkerb3ll18/OPK711.jpg

The above strips are things I have peed on, please give me your advice. I am going to pee on the smiley one when I have more pee available. Thanks! Off to boot camp! xoxo

Definitely fading in, on the one it looks almost positive i'd say

[babydes56]

Tink so fun! Now you know how to do the OPK dance! And you got your bootcamp on, nicely done!

Iluv that timing is crazy, of COURSE you get loads of EWCM and a +OPK now that you can't DTD! But I really really think timing is just not so key. But maybe that is just what I tell myself since I already know I'm not going to be DTD once on O day. (I'd get my account shut down on IG for uttering such disrespect :bigsmile:)

DH and I totally do the separate laptops at night. But his is usually work and mine is usually finally replying to emails I got during the day. Super exciting stuff at our house :wink:

MFC I am going to have an attempt this month! We're just going to see what happens. I O right around my birthday so it just seemed fun :happy: Can't say for sure if we'll keep at it after this or go back to waiting til October.

The only downside to attempting this month is I have girls night out 2 days before I'm due to O, and there's no way I'll be able to avoid cake and alcohol since my friends are celebrating my bday. And then of course on my actual birthday I'll have more cake :bigsmile: But it is what it is. If a slice of cake and a glass or two of wine undo all this other crap I've been doing for months, then CLEARLY all this other crap hasn't done much, IMHO. I have TOTALLY overhauled my diet and exercise for so long now that I either am a boy making machine or I'm not, and there's only one way to find out! Oh how I hope I am a boy making machine though... I would really love to have a son.

TTC5 I'm with MFC, I really feel like this could totally be a BFP for you. FX! Keep on POAS girl!

I agree with you totally, go out & have some birthday cake/wine it wont hurt your sway

[sunnyebsh]

Hi ladies...thanks for your advice on DTD 12 hours after 1st opk....I was contemplating whether or not to DTD this morning
(12 hours after 1st +) or tonight...as I have been tracking with CBFM & read on another site, to DTD the night of 1st peak on CBFM (tonight)...glad I didn't...

7.15pm yesterday - smiley
5.30am today - smiley
8.00am DTD
1.30pm today - smiley
7.00pm today - negative

[babydes56]

So.....got a smiley (again this morning) & a 'peak' on my CBFM (just as I anticipated) & we DTD this morning....FX....praying soooo hard right now...

Can you please let me know what I'm supposed to be doing now...I read somewhere to keep up with the BSF...every couple of hours? Correct? If so, for how long...anything else?

Thanks.

Yay, i'd say maybe just for today keep the bsf but i dont see the point in keeping up with it for several days after. So have you only dtd once? Tell me something is CBFM easy & good to use, been thinking of getting one but not too sure

[babydes56]

UGH, babydes, you're just like me :( I could have written this post. I feel exactly the same about timing. I hate my body.

I'm going to drop l-arginine & a few others too & add flaxseed oil & maybe FUR to see if cm will increase. Are your cycles getting better since you've dropped a few things?

[babydes56]

Hi ladies...thanks for your advice on DTD 12 hours after 1st opk....I was contemplating whether or not to DTD this morning
(12 hours after 1st +) or tonight...as I have been tracking with CBFM & read on another site, to DTD the night of 1st peak on CBFM (tonight)...glad I didn't...

7.15pm yesterday - smiley
5.30am today - smiley
8.00am DTD
1.30pm today - smiley
7.00pm today - negative

Great timing & thank god you didnt wait longer because you'd have risked going into girl territory. GL, now the waiting begins

[babydes56]

Well i'm 12dpo & feeling AF cramps just above my pubic bone so i'll just test for the fun of it tomorrow but i doubt i'll be getting a bfp, if i do well i'll be shocked

[Plum3]

My cycle was normal. No problem. Maybe you can try FUR to regulate your cycles. I've been taking it, but I didn't notice any change but maybe because I was taking the other supp's with it.

I thought about trying it and also Vitex (even though I know it sways pink) but then thought I would just stick to using Clomid to get me ovulating since I know it works, and quickly. I just don't want to take the chance of potentially making things worse. I want to be normal dammit!

[TTC5]

Well i'm 12dpo & feeling AF cramps just above my pubic bone so i'll just test for the fun of it tomorrow but i doubt i'll be getting a bfp, if i do well i'll be shocked

Can't wait to hear!!

[Plum3]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y98/Tinkerb3ll18/OPKSMILEY6711.jpg

I took the tester out, because I know you all had mentioned the strips being an indicator as well of your ovulation.. But I got a smiley!!

Ok, now really Off to Boot camp!

Yay for smiley!

[Plum3]

I think I am doing too much googling? Reading on people getting implantation spotting/dips/bla bla bla and I don't have those... still early though I know at 6dpo.. I just feel really flat today ... maybe that's a good sign? lol.....

Stop googling! I have a good feeling too. When are you going to test again?

[sunnyebsh]

babydes56
The CBFM is very easy to use. It takes about 3 cycles for it to get to know your cycle. You only have to take one test each day as opposed to holding your urine and using OPKs multiple times each day. I think it's a lot easier. I just used the OPK as back up.

[Plum3]

Bec, so glad to have you here because i now have someone who's in the same situation as me. You had to take clomid for your girls didnt you?

Glad to be here :) With DD1 I took Clomid for two cycles, with no O then conceived first cycle on FSH injections. With DD2 I conceived first cycle on Clomid 50mg. Have you taken Clomid before?

[TTC5]

Stop googling! I have a good feeling too. When are you going to test again?

Tomorrow morning :P

I am queen of poas! LOL

[Plum3]

Well i'm 12dpo & feeling AF cramps just above my pubic bone so i'll just test for the fun of it tomorrow but i doubt i'll be getting a bfp, if i do well i'll be shocked

I got cramps that I thought was AF coming both times when I was pregnant. FX!

[Plum3]

Tomorrow morning :P

I am queen of poas! LOL

How early did you get BFPs with your girls? I was 11dpo when I got my first positive.

[TTC5]

No idea because I was not tracking, DD1 I was 5 months LOL but had not tested earlier lol. DD 2 I had missed a period so tested a few days later, DD 3 I was around 5 weeks and DD 4 I was around 4-5 weeks.

[Plum3]

5 month?! How did you find out, did you notice your belly growing?

[TTC5]

Long story.. but I did not know I had even had sex so when I was getting a little pudgy I just thought it was from eating too many caramel slices at school - LOL!

My best friend bought me a test and we did it in the shopping centre rest room and the line came up right away.

A month later my parents found out and I had my first scan. It all happened so quickly after that and before I know it I had a baby in my arms..

[Plum3]

Damn those caramel slices. The pregnancy would have flown for sure!

[babydes56]

babydes56
The CBFM is very easy to use. It takes about 3 cycles for it to get to know your cycle. You only have to take one test each day as opposed to holding your urine and using OPKs multiple times each day. I think it's a lot easier. I just used the OPK as back up.

I have irregular cycles so i doubt if it would be useful to me, i also dont have 3mnths to wait for it to get to know my cycle so i guess i'll just continue with regular opk's. Thanks for the info

[babydes56]

TTC5, i cant believe you got to 5 mnths without knowing you were preg! I know one girl who only knew she was preg when she went into labour. Oh by the way it's still early to get bfp/bfn so maybe start testing around 10dpo. Being the POAS qeen i'm sure it's hard not to pee on that stick but hang on a few more days:bigsmile:

[Cheekymoo]

Aaaaaand this is why you shouldn't dtd unprotected after CD8 or so.....I have a freaking O-3 cutoff if I ovulate today, which I probably am (early, only CD12), thanks to the DHEA I'm taking. Hooray.....and haven't been doing diet at all. If I get pg, it is a girl, for sure! Oh well, she is welcome anytime.

OMG!!! TYPICAL- well at least you have a sense of humour about it!LOL

[Cheekymoo]

So.....got a smiley (again this morning) & a 'peak' on my CBFM (just as I anticipated) & we DTD this morning....FX....praying soooo hard right now...

Can you please let me know what I'm supposed to be doing now...I read somewhere to keep up with the BSF...every couple of hours? Correct? If so, for how long...anything else?

Thanks.

ohhh sooo exciting :) FX!

[Cheekymoo]

LOL TTC5 .................You are doing exactly what I do! LOL I pretty much POAS daily - which is prob silly as I didn't get a positive till 14 DPO with either of my girls! LOL

Wow about being 5 months the first time!! I thought having my first daughter early and only gestating for 7 months went quick !LOL 4 months would have flown by!

[TTC5]

TTC5, i cant believe you got to 5 mnths without knowing you were preg! I know one girl who only knew she was preg when she went into labour. Oh by the way it's still early to get bfp/bfn so maybe start testing around 10dpo. Being the POAS qeen i'm sure it's hard not to pee on that stick but hang on a few more days:bigsmile:

Well I have a whole drawer full so may as well HAHAHA!!

Yes it is unreal isn't it? I guess because I was so young I did not show much at all! Despite having a big baby!!

[TTC5]

Damn those caramel slices. The pregnancy would have flown for sure!

And chips with vinegar after school every day LOL in hindsight, they were SOO cravings :P

[begonia]

Well i'm 12dpo & feeling AF cramps just above my pubic bone so i'll just test for the fun of it tomorrow but i doubt i'll be getting a bfp, if i do well i'll be shocked

I know I'm not the only one who would LOVE to see you get a BFP babydes. FX for you tomorrow morning!

[begonia]

Good luck Sunnye!!! Sounds like your timing was spot on!

[begonia]

TTC5, that is incredible! I was 8 weeks with DD1 ... I was on BCP's and there was a lot going on so I just didn't notice that I hadn't had a period. It was the morning sickness (started at 7 weeks, thought I had the flu!) that clued me in.

[LolaInLove]

So.....got a smiley (again this morning) & a 'peak' on my CBFM (just as I anticipated) & we DTD this morning....FX....praying soooo hard right now...

Can you please let me know what I'm supposed to be doing now...I read somewhere to keep up with the BSF...every couple of hours? Correct? If so, for how long...anything else?

Thanks.

Aw, good luck!!! Just keep your booty up so the sperm don't come out (prop your hips) and relax! Be sure to nourish yourself well in the next 2 weeks. I personally wouldn't bother with many more bsf. It only takes the sperm an hour or less (I read) to get up in the cervix and all, and once they are past there, the bsf doesn't do any good. So, it just matters to do one about 1-2 hours before you dtd, really. FX for you sunny!

[LolaInLove]

OMG!!! TYPICAL- well at least you have a sense of humour about it!LOL

Without my sense of humor, I have nothing, really. LOL

I keep thinking if I get pg, it is God's way of sucker punching me and saying, "JEEZ, nice try thinking you can control things. Now get a life and enjoy this 3rd baby girl."

[LolaInLove]

TTC5, don't freak, everyone has different early preg symptoms. I swear I had NONE with my girls and then these past 2 pgs I had cramps from 6-10dpo, and tested and got bfps on 10dpo. I was incredibly bloated and gassy (ewww) and also got sick right away. Pregnancy is an immuno-suppressant, ya know. AND if it doesn't happen this first go round, don't worry, it will happen! Look at all of our crazy asses trying and trying and we will all get picked off the ttc train sooner or later.

And your #1 girl is a doll....every one of them is an amazing blessing, aren't they????? Could you ever imagine life without them?

[3Pink1Blue]

Hey ladies, I'm going with DD#2 on her kindergarten field trip to the zoo! So fun hanging out with her and her little friends. I'll pop in tonight to catch up.

[LolaInLove]

WHO IS TESTING SOON? I am anxiously awaiting some poas results today.

So, as for us, we did not do anything last night, just are letting it go and hoping that we are in the 75% of people who don't get pregnant from an O-3 this month. I feel like a moron, though....I should have known that I'd O early.

This morning, DH was supposed to get a "sample" to take over to the lab, and I was going to get a blood draw for my clotting panel tests, and we woke up late (I inadvertantly hit the old OK on my iphone alarm instead of snooze, as I always do.) Then, we got in a tizzy about it all since he had something to do at 10am, so we had like, 5 minutes to get his sample before we needed to fly out the door. Needless to say, we had to abort mission. Decided to do testing after back from Chicago on the 27th. By that time, DH will have had a month with no smokes, and both of us a month on the antioxidants, so our test results will look better.

TINK, you did indeed fade in nicely, keep tracking for Sep!

You gals were making me laugh about old IG and the virtual ruler that would come out of the computer monitor (like The Ring style) and SLAP you on the wrist for daring to defy the rules of swaying! I have to say, I used to hate certain people's misspelled and grammatically incorrect responses.

[LolaInLove]

Hey ladies, I'm going with DD#2 on her kindergarten field trip to the zoo! So fun hanging out with her and her little friends. I'll pop in tonight to catch up.

BEST DAYS EVER! Have a blast!!! And don't smell the animal poop!

[Tink18]

my lmp was may 25th so that would put me at cd13 right? Since those were yesterday. Today is Cd 14. Or do I start the day of my lmp which would bump me up a day.

[begonia]

BEST DAYS EVER! Have a blast!!! And don't smell the animal poop!

Oh true! The zoo can be a relative minefield for a prego! Hope you have fun Jen! I love love love when I get to tag along with DD and friends and listen to their little convos. Driving carpool is super fun for that reason :-)

Well, I should have taken a lesson from the Lola playbook but we DTD last night unprotected, and today I just have a *feeling* I will O early. It's a good thing I don't fret about timing ... just going to start my OPK's today and see how we go. I'm a little iffy on if I am CD 8 or 9; I had some flow start 5/31 in the evening but it stopped. Then 6/1 definitely started full flow. I know spotting doesn't count as the start, but 5/31 was more than spotting, definitely was flow, it just stopped though. So anyhow, I'm just going to OPK away and see what we get.

What makes me more nervous than the timing is I have a very red, sore throat this am ... DD2 had a virus this weekend and FX I didn't catch it. I have no fever (and hers was high) so I'm hoping it is just allergies. I can't be TTC while sick!!!

Cheekymoo aren't you attempting soon?!? I seem to remember we're around the same dates?

Lola I ALWAYS hit the wrong thing on my iPhone alarm! That thing is not well designed!

[Tink18]

Don't get down! You are extremely early! Gotta stay positive! Everything will happen when its suppose too!! FX!

[LolaInLove]

my lmp was may 25th so that would put me at cd13 right? Since those were yesterday. Today is Cd 14. Or do I start the day of my lmp which would bump me up a day.

Your CD1 is the first day of bleeding....which can be confusing to some as they start spotting beforehand. I've always understood the 1st day is the day you really start shedding (bleeding)....if you are a spotter, that is. I spot a tad late the night before, then have it full on the next day, so I consider the full on day my CD1.

[begonia]

my lmp was may 25th so that would put me at cd13 right? Since those were yesterday. Today is Cd 14. Or do I start the day of my lmp which would bump me up a day.

The day your LMP started is CD1, so yesterday would be CD14 for you :-)

[Tink18]

Oh I see how it works! thanks for clarifying. And yes I am a a spotter, so the 24th I spotted, but really "shed" on the 25th. So i guess today is CD15 then. I'm gonna pee on something here in a minute see where am I at!! Thanks ladies!!

[LolaInLove]

Oh I see how it works! thanks for clarifying. And yes I am a a spotter, so the 24th I spotted, but really "shed" on the 25th. So i guess today is CD15 then. I'm gonna pee on something here in a minute see where am I at!! Thanks ladies!!

Is your spotting really light? Or is it just a light flow all day long? I didn't mean to confuse you....it depends which day is really the first day of flow/shedding, you kwim. But I think you are right if your spotting on the 24th was just a few drops here and there. POAS away!

[babydes56]

Cramps quite a bit today, feels a lot like AF. I'm 12dpo so doubt if that would implanting coz that happens between day 6-10 doesnt it. Anway i'll definitely know tomorrow morning.

Lola, that's a great plan to wait to have test because when the time comes you'd have boosted yourselves. GL with the results.

Begonia, thanks for wishing bfp for me. It will happen sometime soon i hope

[Tink18]

Oh baby, I really hope that stupid B*tch doesn't show up!! FX!!

And I second Baby with your plan Lola!! Good luck with the results!

I just want everyone to get what they want this month! June is a good month!! It's my wedding anniversary too!! wahoo!! this is the month we got preganant with our DD! on 6/22/08!

I peed earlier on a strip and it had a faint line again. then I dipped a clear blue smile stick in the same urine. came up with no smiley. So looks like yesterday was my O day. The day before I had done the same and got a neg smiley as well. So if that were the case around my attempt and I going for the one shot attempt we should have done the BD dance last night or early this morning? I need to learn this timing thing now. Well I guess when I get closer to my attempt you guys can tell me when to get it on!! lol. My Dh thinks you guys are so funny. I was rushing around the house peeing on stuff yesterday and posting pics. He goes, "what are they saying" When I got the smiley he wouldn't even let me see it, he wanted to see the result first. He raced me to the bathroom! He is so damn cute! I should find a pic of us somewhere. How come there isn't pics of anyone anywhere? Do we not do that here?

[begonia]

Tink with timing the OPK tells you 24-36 hours before the egg is released, but the LH has also already been in your body for a handful of hours ... checking your CM/CP can help you figure out if you O'd yesterday or O'd this am, just b/c the smiley is gone now doesn't mean you didn't O earlier today instead of yesterday. It's a guessing game for sure :-) Are you temping? I know that helps pinpoint it as well. I don't temp though! What most of us do is just DTD 12 hours after the +OPK. So for you, that would mean BD last night.

As for me I'm FRICKING sick!!!!! I can't believe it. I am 99% sure I got the virus DD2 had this weekend b/c my symptoms are the same. So I will likely be better Friday, thank goodness, b/c that is my big b-day celebration with my friends. But what about TTC?!?! Should I drop it now? I should O on the 13th/14th. But I know being sick sways girl... I don't feel like eating but have been keeping the diet up anyway.

CUSSWORDS!!!! I haven't been sick in almost 3 years :-(

[babydes56]

Tink, i would say that if you ok with temping then do so because this will help pin point ovulation for you. I also agree with Begonia that checking your CM/CP are important. I think every woman is different so you have until Sept to see how your opks/cm/cp correspond with each other. Learn how to check your cervix, how many days of fade ins you get before +opk etc. that kind of thing.

Begonia, i dont know what i'd do if i was you because if you get a bfp you dont want to end up questioning whether you did the right thing or not. If you have any doubts then i'd say maybe skip this month but then again it all depends how long you've been trying. All i'm trying to say basically is i'd make an attempt only if i knew i had given it my all but that's just me

[Tink18]

Hmmm I am wondering what cusswords you chose! I ove the F word. It's my personal fav. I am sorry you are sick!! feel better soon!

I swear I get it and then I get confused. I just have to realize I have only been at this for like 10 minutes and trying understand so much in a short time. I just want to know it all now. But sept is so far away so I am sure i will have it all by them, I mean "I aint dumb" lol. I am temping and my temps have steadily been between 97.5 and 97.8 haven't changed at all. I'll keep temping as well.

[LolaInLove]

Babydes, you never know....don't lose hope yet. Some people don't get implantation cramps at all, some are early, some are late. Keep your chin up!

Tink, if all opk systems gave you a positive result just one day, yesterday, I would try to dtd either last night or this morning. ITA with Begonia's summation there! Do you get O pains? And did you poas twice or just once a day? I usually get a + around 1 or 2pm, and then that night, then again in the morning, but usually the surge has subsided by the next night's test. So, I pretty much know my surge actually started that morning around 8 or 9am, and it hits my urine by 1 or 2pm. So, I figure I ovulate around 24 hours after that, and sure enough, I usually get O pains around 3 or 4 pm the next day, just around the right time. So you wanna bd, like B said, anywhere from 12-18 hours after your 1st +, but if you only test once a day, I would bd that night or the next morning after your + as you are maybe not sure when your surge actually started (which you can be more sure of when you opk twice a day). More poas for you next month!!! And we did have a pic thread on a private forum....a few of us deleted them after a while to avoid trolls. It's called "Let's Talk Secrets." If you post some, I'll repost mine for a few days!

Begonia, SOOOO SORRYYYYYYY you are sick, that SUCKS! Maybe just wait to see how you feel then? If you feel like you are good to go and have some bd, maybe go for it. You know, just watch the meds for drying-up action and the like. I mean, if you can skip it and wait till July, I would probably do that, but I know how it is when you are all geared up and ready to ttc!

[LolaInLove]

Checking your cervix is helpful, I do agree! And the cm factor, can you tell when it goes creamy/dries up and your egg is shot?

[Tink18]

yes, I do get O pains for sure. I get a little crampy and barfy the day before and then all day yesterday I almost felt Like AF cramps. To day I feel great. The 2 times I have tested today the lines are very faint. The past few days, I was peeing just about every 3 hours because I wanted to know when my surge was and when since I have never done this. Yesterday and the day before, i kinda figured it out. I got the smiley around 4 PM. I think I probably would have gotten one even earlier if I had thought to do it, so Ill do it next month. I tested my CM today, It was a 4 whoopdee do! BUt I have small hands, I need a shovel.

[Tink18]

I just checked that "lets talk secrets thread" Seems like nobody has been over there for a while? I wanna see pics of everyone! Should we start a new thread? Or did I miss the fun!

[TTC5]

Cramps quite a bit today, feels a lot like AF. I'm 12dpo so doubt if that would implanting coz that happens between day 6-10 doesnt it. Anway i'll definitely know tomorrow morning.

Lola, that's a great plan to wait to have test because when the time comes you'd have boosted yourselves. GL with the results.

Begonia, thanks for wishing bfp for me. It will happen sometime soon i hope

Hope af stays away!!

[TTC5]

TTC5, don't freak, everyone has different early preg symptoms. I swear I had NONE with my girls and then these past 2 pgs I had cramps from 6-10dpo, and tested and got bfps on 10dpo. I was incredibly bloated and gassy (ewww) and also got sick right away. Pregnancy is an immuno-suppressant, ya know. AND if it doesn't happen this first go round, don't worry, it will happen! Look at all of our crazy asses trying and trying and we will all get picked off the ttc train sooner or later.

And your #1 girl is a doll....every one of them is an amazing blessing, aren't they????? Could you ever imagine life without them?

Thanks Lola xx

[TTC5]

Hey ladies, I'm going with DD#2 on her kindergarten field trip to the zoo! So fun hanging out with her and her little friends. I'll pop in tonight to catch up.

Have fun!!

[TTC5]

See my chart guys, 7dpo could it be an imp. dip? This morning have slimey cm that is yellow, snot like?? Plug forming maybe?!?!! Clutching at straws here lol

[Tink18]

Ohh TTC..I am really pulling for you. When are you going to pee again. It took me forever to get A BFP with my DD so don't get down. When would AF be due if her whore ass would dare to try and show up?

[TTC5]

Anyhere from 7 - 11 days from today... closer to 7 days though.

[babydes56]

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[babydes56]

I'm in shock, NEVER expected this! Yesterday i had AF cramps & have had slight twinges here & there but nothing to make me think i was preg. The only tell tell was i've been emotional, remember me saying that i'd cried a few times in the last week. DH's over the moon, bless him he says i have to take it easy now. He's away with work so i had to ring him with the news. The other sign could have been my eating, i've had a bit of an appetite lately but i just thought it's the boy diet that's made me eat all the time.

[TTC5]

OMG ANOTHER PREGGA'S FOR THE JUNE CREW WOOO HOOOOO So happy for you!!!!!

[babydes56]

Thanks TTC5, i really was not expecting this i'm sure you know from my previous posts. How many dpo's are you now? I'm sure that if i'd tested yesterday i would have had a positive because when i did test today it didnt take long for the positve to show up on the cheap strip. At first i thought the cheap strip wasnt true so took the clearblue digital. I'm absolutely thrilled! DH & you ladies are the first to know, not sure if i should tell anyone else at this stage, definitely not work that's for sure.

[TTC5]

I am 7dpo!

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Hiya all!

I am 9 dpo and still bfn (remember, I have to start testing at 7dpo for this research study I am in). I don't even think it really is even that likely to start showing bfp's till 10 dpo, so I ignore them (digi's). I see we have a BFP! HOOORAYY!!!

TTC5- we are about a day apart- when will you start testing?

If anyone wants to interpret my chart, check it out!

[babydes56]

Spicy, your chart's looking good. What research are you doing?

[SpicyTunaSushi]

It is a research study that is looking at implantation day and outcome of pregnancy.

[TTC5]

Hiya all!

I am 9 dpo and still bfn (remember, I have to start testing at 7dpo for this research study I am in). I don't even think it really is even that likely to start showing bfp's till 10 dpo, so I ignore them (digi's). I see we have a BFP! HOOORAYY!!!

TTC5- we are about a day apart- when will you start testing?

If anyone wants to interpret my chart, check it out!

Off to look at your chart! I started testing at..... wait for it LMAO....... 6dpo! HAHA

[TTC5]

Chart looks good! Do you have any feelings wether you are preg or not?

[babydes56]

It is a research study that is looking at implantation day and outcome of pregnancy.

If i'm not mistaken this study was said not to be true on IG

[TTC5]

If i'm not mistaken this study was said not to be true on IG

What did they find?

[Plum3]

Tink with timing the OPK tells you 24-36 hours before the egg is released, but the LH has also already been in your body for a handful of hours ... checking your CM/CP can help you figure out if you O'd yesterday or O'd this am, just b/c the smiley is gone now doesn't mean you didn't O earlier today instead of yesterday. It's a guessing game for sure :-) Are you temping? I know that helps pinpoint it as well. I don't temp though! What most of us do is just DTD 12 hours after the +OPK. So for you, that would mean BD last night.

As for me I'm FRICKING sick!!!!! I can't believe it. I am 99% sure I got the virus DD2 had this weekend b/c my symptoms are the same. So I will likely be better Friday, thank goodness, b/c that is my big b-day celebration with my friends. But what about TTC?!?! Should I drop it now? I should O on the 13th/14th. But I know being sick sways girl... I don't feel like eating but have been keeping the diet up anyway.

CUSSWORDS!!!! I haven't been sick in almost 3 years :-(

Sucks that you are sick :( Especially since you have celebrations to look forward to. I agree with Baby, if you have doubts then I would skip this month too. You don't want to be wondering 'what if?' if you get a bfp. Up to you though, only you can decide. Hope you are feeling better soon!

[Plum3]

Babydes, you never know....don't lose hope yet. Some people don't get implantation cramps at all, some are early, some are late. Keep your chin up!

Tink, if all opk systems gave you a positive result just one day, yesterday, I would try to dtd either last night or this morning. ITA with Begonia's summation there! Do you get O pains? And did you poas twice or just once a day? I usually get a + around 1 or 2pm, and then that night, then again in the morning, but usually the surge has subsided by the next night's test. So, I pretty much know my surge actually started that morning around 8 or 9am, and it hits my urine by 1 or 2pm. So, I figure I ovulate around 24 hours after that, and sure enough, I usually get O pains around 3 or 4 pm the next day, just around the right time. So you wanna bd, like B said, anywhere from 12-18 hours after your 1st +, but if you only test once a day, I would bd that night or the next morning after your + as you are maybe not sure when your surge actually started (which you can be more sure of when you opk twice a day). More poas for you next month!!! And we did have a pic thread on a private forum....a few of us deleted them after a while to avoid trolls. It's called "Let's Talk Secrets." If you post some, I'll repost mine for a few days!

Begonia, SOOOO SORRYYYYYYY you are sick, that SUCKS! Maybe just wait to see how you feel then? If you feel like you are good to go and have some bd, maybe go for it. You know, just watch the meds for drying-up action and the like. I mean, if you can skip it and wait till July, I would probably do that, but I know how it is when you are all geared up and ready to ttc!

Great explanation on OPKs and surging. I have been wondering about timing of the surge and how often to test but this really helped me get it all. Thanks!

[Plum3]

See my chart guys, 7dpo could it be an imp. dip? This morning have slimey cm that is yellow, snot like?? Plug forming maybe?!?!! Clutching at straws here lol

I think implantation dips are usually below the cover line.

[Plum3]

Congratulations babydes!! Fantastic news!

The month is starting out great so far. Bring on all those BFPs :)

[TTC5]

I think implantation dips are usually below the cover line.

Oh really? gahhh I read if it dipped below the cover line it meant something else.. should not google so much lol

[Plum3]

Google is not your friend! I'm sure it can mean lots of things but of all the implantation dips I have seen they are always below or near enough to the coverline. Only one temp and then it shoots back up.

[TTC5]

Found this!
http://infertility.about.com/od/tryingtoconceive101/qt/implantationdip.htm

[Plum3]

Well, there you go. It could very well be implantation then, yay!

[ELP]

I'm in shock, NEVER expected this! Yesterday i had AF cramps & have had slight twinges here & there but nothing to make me think i was preg. The only tell tell was i've been emotional, remember me saying that i'd cried a few times in the last week. DH's over the moon, bless him he says i have to take it easy now. He's away with work so i had to ring him with the news. The other sign could have been my eating, i've had a bit of an appetite lately but i just thought it's the boy diet that's made me eat all the time.
Massive, Massive Congratulations!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am soo excited for you:bigsmile: I hope the next 8 months flies by safe and sound for you and your gorgeous little bean xxxxxxxx

[babydes56]

Thanks ladies, i hope i have a healthy pregnancy!

[TTC5]

Well, there you go. It could very well be implantation then, yay!

Tonight, I'm having big cramps to the right side and a lower dull back ache.. been going for an hour now..

[begonia]

Babydes I have chills, I am SO SO SO thrilled for you!!!!!! Congratulations! You have worked so hard for this and I am so glad to see you get the well earned BFP :-) Made my whole day!!!

[begonia]

Well ladies as I lay there in bed last night all feverish and such I thought exactly what Baby, Lola and Bec mentioned, if I did get a BFP and it was a girl, would I forever be wishing I'd waited? Probably.

BUT then I woke up this morning and I feel a-ok. AND I took an OPK last night and am starting to fade in, and had gross amount of EWCM this morning. Which makes me super nervous that I am going to O early, b/c DH and I DTD unprotected on Tuesday (thinking I still had a week before O) ... and now I could possibly O early, and those swimmers from Tues could still be there. AND I jumped and dumped after. So between that and being sick I am rockin' a stellar girl sway here. This is definitely where I use the F word, Tink.

At this point I'm just going to keep POAS to try to find my surge. Depending on when it comes I'll figure out my plan from there. If we hadn't DTD unprotected on Tues I'd skip this month for sure, but now I'm worried I could get pg from those swimmers anyway, so I'm thinking I should DTD again on O day. AAAAAAAAAARRRGH.

This sucks.

[babydes56]

Begonia,thanks hun! I am over the moon, it still hasnt registered though. I'd say go for it again if you b'ded on Tue because if you dont you could get preg from the old spermies & that would be perfect girl timing. See how you feel but i would do as i suggested.

[LolaInLove]

I'm in shock, NEVER expected this! Yesterday i had AF cramps & have had slight twinges here & there but nothing to make me think i was preg. The only tell tell was i've been emotional, remember me saying that i'd cried a few times in the last week. DH's over the moon, bless him he says i have to take it easy now. He's away with work so i had to ring him with the news. The other sign could have been my eating, i've had a bit of an appetite lately but i just thought it's the boy diet that's made me eat all the time.

AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! I am SOOOOOO happy and excited for you!!!! I saw your FB post on my phone on commute in and almost cried! OMG OMG OMG!!!! I knew this amazing day would come for you, L!!!!!!!!

:celebrate::celebrate::celebrate::celebrate::celeb rate::celebrate::celebrate:

[LolaInLove]

Thanks ladies, i hope i have a healthy pregnancy!

YOU WILL. BELIEVE IT. xoxoxoxoxo

I am still so excited, you have no idea!!!!!!!

[LolaInLove]

TTC5, PLEASE try not to read too much into your symptoms, just take care of yourself and relax, best thing for you if you have a little bean trying to make it's way into existence! I think your chart looks great, btw.

Begonia, I would TOTALLY do a full attempt with all bells and whistles when you get a +opk if you feel fine now, especially if you feel like your last bd is within 4 days of O. Maybe you are all sorts of healthy from the boy diet and kicked that virus to the curb. And actually, that would be a perfect span, too....so your sway isn't messed up at all!

Bec, glad that opk explanation helped. It took me months to really figure it all out. Once you get all of the O watch methods to sync and you know what is happening, it makes everything so much easier. I don't agree with timing being a huge factor, but ya know, if you CAN time it well, it never hurts and does make you feel like you did everything well.

[LolaInLove]

Tink, just post in that thread and I'll put a couple up again also! It's kinda nice not outright saying "photos" so no icky non-GD people can go straight there.

[babydes56]

Thank you Lola, of all the ladies on here you've known my journey & i know you are pleased for me which i really appreciate. I seriously didnt see this coming, i'm already wondering if it's boy or girl.. & after the congratulations from my eldest daughter & best friend the next thing they both said "i hope it's a boy" & i said that i'm just pleased i'm preg & if it turns out to be another girl then that's God's plan for me & still a blessing

[LolaInLove]

Thank you Lola, of all the ladies on here you've known my journey & i know you are pleased for me which i really appreciate. I seriously didnt see this coming, i'm already wondering if it's boy or girl.. & after the congratulations from my eldest daughter & best friend the next thing they both said "i hope it's a boy" & i said that i'm just pleased i'm preg & if it turns out to be another girl then that's God's plan for me & still a blessing

Yes, I'd like to think I've been here "with" you for a while now! What an awesome surprise.....I am so thankful you didn't give up....you know your perseverance is what got you here, girl. I'm inspired by you and hope I am as lucky soon! And I like your attitude about the gender. It's funny how ttc so long can turn your mind around from being completely obsessed with making a boy to just making a healthy baby. Sometimes I think that may be a blessing for me, as I am a bit of a control freak. And you never know, that may be a baby boy in there! But either way, I am just hoping and praying it's a healthy little baby!

[cemas]

Congratulations!!!! babydes...that is superb news....June looks great. Am really very happy for you.....i remeber ur long cycles .....was this w or w/o clomid???
wishing u a healthy happy 9 months

[babydes56]

Yes, I'd like to think I've been here "with" you for a while now! What an awesome surprise.....I am so thankful you didn't give up....you know your perseverance is what got you here, girl. I'm inspired by you and hope I am as lucky soon! And I like your attitude about the gender. It's funny how ttc so long can turn your mind around from being completely obsessed with making a boy to just making a healthy baby. Sometimes I think that may be a blessing for me, as I am a bit of a control freak. And you never know, that may be a baby boy in there! But either way, I am just hoping and praying it's a healthy little baby!

You will be joining me soon, it will happen for you. Do you remember saying this to me?

[LolaInLove]

You will be joining me soon, it will happen for you. Do you remember saying this to me?

I do! :wink: So glad we have each other for encouragement!!!!

[babydes56]

Congratulations!!!! babydes...that is superb news....June looks great. Am really very happy for you.....i remeber ur long cycles .....was this w or w/o clomid???
wishing u a healthy happy 9 months

Cemas, thank you! I know my cycles are crazy. What you up to yourself?

[Flava]

baby

http://dl4.glitter-graphics.net/pub/667/667594r62hyr5cwg.gif (http://www.glitter-graphics.com)

[cemas]

Cemas, thank you! I know my cycles are crazy. What you up to yourself?

i too am in the 2WW.....Been thru so many...not many symtoms and taking prometrium...so can;t even know.

[3Pink1Blue]

OMG HUGE CONGRATS BABY!!!!! Come join in on the Due in Feb thread!!

Cemas, ttc5, who else? When are you ladies testing?

Can't catch up from 2 days so I'm just jumping back in on this page :bigsmile:

[begonia]

Begonia,thanks hun! I am over the moon, it still hasnt registered though. I'd say go for it again if you b'ded on Tue because if you dont you could get preg from the old spermies & that would be perfect girl timing. See how you feel but i would do as i suggested.

Thanks Babydes! Can I just mention it was also a 7 day abstinence, and if I O in the next 2 days we'd have the perfect girl cut-off :rofl: WTH!!! Anyhow my fever is back up to 101, if this is like DD's virus though I should wake up fine tomorrow. :fingers: In which case I probably will DTD again on O day b/c that abstinence and cut-off is just horrifying.

[begonia]

both said "i hope it's a boy" & i said that i'm just pleased i'm preg & if it turns out to be another girl then that's God's plan for me & still a blessing
:HH: That's awesome.

Lola thanks for chiming in on the super girl sway I've got going here :wink: I am so beyond pissed. My fever was gone this am but back now, but like I mentioned to Babydes if it is like DD's virus I should wake up fine tomorrow. I'm just trying to keep eating even though it is the last thing I feel like, b/c depending on when I O I really think based on our timing from Tuesday I oughta do it again. B/c if I got pg sick with that cut-off??!? :mad: After NINE months of this diet/exercise/supps :sad:

[begonia]

i too am in the 2WW.....Been thru so many...not many symtoms and taking prometrium...so can;t even know.

FX for you Cemas!

[SpicyTunaSushi]

OMG HUGE CONGRATS BABY!!!!! Come join in on the Due in Feb thread!!

Cemas, ttc5, who else? When are you ladies testing?

Can't catch up from 2 days so I'm just jumping back in on this page :bigsmile:

Me! Me! 9 dpo today, bfn of course! Tomorrow *could* be a big day!

[LolaInLove]

:HH: That's awesome.

Lola thanks for chiming in on the super girl sway I've got going here :wink: I am so beyond pissed. My fever was gone this am but back now, but like I mentioned to Babydes if it is like DD's virus I should wake up fine tomorrow. I'm just trying to keep eating even though it is the last thing I feel like, b/c depending on when I O I really think based on our timing from Tuesday I oughta do it again. B/c if I got pg sick with that cut-off??!? :mad: After NINE months of this diet/exercise/supps :sad:

Girl, I hear you 1000% about all of that! Listen, don't sweat it, seriously....give it a shot and dtd again and you really won't be swaying girl at all. Don't even worry about being a bit sick, just do everything you can from now until you get your +opk!

[SpicyTunaSushi]

If i'm not mistaken this study was said not to be true on IG

Sorry this is not an IG study- this is a study for a university. And the research does show that implantations between 7-10 days have a better pregnancy outcome (ie less early loss) than later. There are a few articles on it. :)

[LolaInLove]

Me! Me! 9 dpo today, bfn of course! Tomorrow *could* be a big day!

WOOT WOOT! Excited!

Cemas, hope you are doing well! Is this your first month back ttc after the m/c?

[SpicyTunaSushi]

Chart looks good! Do you have any feelings wether you are preg or not?

Maybe? Or symptom spotting. Lots of cramps on my left ovaries- which I think is the Corpus Luteum releasing progesterone, because my temps always get higher at this point and then drop the day before AF.

Some weird back pains, but nothing much else. With DD, I didn't test until 12 dpo, but I had painful breasts on 11 dpo and I knew I was pregnant. But nothing like that yet, 9 dpo today.

[3Pink1Blue]

Spicy - Tomorrow! We only have to wait till tomorrow for another:fingers:BFP!!

Lovin' the change of tone here, boy we needed this!

[cemas]

WOOT WOOT! Excited!

Cemas, hope you are doing well! Is this your first month back ttc after the m/c?

Hi Lola, this is my 2nd attempt after back. i had got my AF right on the day i landed in the US and so gave it a try......last month no luck.....so this cycle i stopped all the hormone affecting supps as i just think that is imbalancing my hormones and egg quality...who knows ..just a try.....if i get a BFP i may be right in knowing my body...

[begonia]

Thanks for the encouragement Lola! I need it right now! Maybe being really angry sways boy, LOL. Because I'm so mad right now it's just funny.

Spicy FX for you!!!

My OPK just now was darker but still not positive. If I'm lucky I'll get a + on Saturday, that would be a 4 day abstinence from Tuesday... and hopefully none of those Tuesday swimmers will be there. Little bastards.

[LolaInLove]

Thanks for the encouragement Lola! I need it right now! Maybe being really angry sways boy, LOL. Because I'm so mad right now it's just funny.

Spicy FX for you!!!

My OPK just now was darker but still not positive. If I'm lucky I'll get a + on Saturday, that would be a 4 day abstinence from Tuesday... and hopefully none of those Tuesday swimmers will be there. Little bastards.

4 days is perfect! And I would look at your anger as a sign of high testosterone. Personally, I know mine is up when I want to either kill or screw everything....isn't that so manly of me. (:

[LolaInLove]

Hi Lola, this is my 2nd attempt after back. i had got my AF right on the day i landed in the US and so gave it a try......last month no luck.....so this cycle i stopped all the hormone affecting supps as i just think that is imbalancing my hormones and egg quality...who knows ..just a try.....if i get a BFP i may be right in knowing my body...

I hope you are right about knowing your body, and hope this is it for you, too! I have a bad feeling that my eggs are going rotten, so I've been doing lots of antioxidant supps only, and DHEA for that matter, which is hormonal, but that't the only one. Keep in touch!!! Hope you had an awesome trip home!

[hope.ful]

Thank you Lola, of all the ladies on here you've known my journey & i know you are pleased for me which i really appreciate. I seriously didnt see this coming, i'm already wondering if it's boy or girl.. & after the congratulations from my eldest daughter & best friend the next thing they both said "i hope it's a boy" & i said that i'm just pleased i'm preg & if it turns out to be another girl then that's God's plan for me & still a blessing

CONGRATULATIONS!!! Great way to look at it. So happy for you!!

[cemas]

I hope you are right about knowing your body, and hope this is it for you, too! I have a bad feeling that my eggs are going rotten, so I've been doing lots of antioxidant supps only, and DHEA for that matter, which is hormonal, but that't the only one. Keep in touch!!! Hope you had an awesome trip home!

Yes i had a great trip and sooo needed the ttc break! Praying it happens for me now and all of u out there too.
Lola i don't think ur eggs are bad as you have a very regular cycle which does not happen with bad eggs...GL

Begonia, You may end up with the perfect timing. FX u O on Sat:)

[babydes56]

FX for you Cemas

Spicy, cant wait to hear your results tomorrow! Wish i had known about your little study, i'd have started testing from 10dpo but nevermind what will be will be

Begonia, Sat +opk would be great! The old swimmers wouldnt still be alive so it's looking good for you now FX

[LolaInLove]

I agree, that is a long cutoff, Begonia.

Babydes, at least you didn't have days of bfns to get you down....you are smart to test later and just once!

[babydes56]

Spicy - Tomorrow! We only have to wait till tomorrow for another:fingers:BFP!!

Lovin' the change of tone here, boy we needed this!

I couldnt agree with you more, we really needed some good news for a change!

[babydes56]

Hopeful, thank you!

Lola, i dont see the point in testing early unless you doing some research like Spicy's doing. I say test when you know the result's going to be 100%.

[LolaInLove]

Hopeful, thank you!

Lola, i dont see the point in testing early unless you doing some research like Spicy's doing. I say test when you know the result's going to be 100%.

ITA! What dpo was this for you? 14? NICE will power! I will get a bfp at 10dpo if I'm pg, but I do hold out until then.

[babydes56]

I actually fell asleep on the couch today for about 1hr which i havent done for a long time, i guess the tiredness's starting to kick in. I also have a little heart burn, been really thirsty too. Boobies not sore yet

[babydes56]

No it was 13pdo

[babydes56]

Cemas, how many dpo are you?