ANYONE CONCEIVE A BOY ON CLOMID? [Archive]

atomic sagebrush

November 13th, 2013, 05:10 PM

Of course people get boys on Clomid. The studies show different % depending on who they were studying, but the Clomid was swaying by 3-5%. I think that swayers who do not have PCOS and who are not using supplemental estrogen or Preseed etc, can expect much higher success than that.

Please do not use false unicorn root. I already explained why in the other thread you posted this in. I don't want anyone using FUR.

You still have every chance in the world at getting a girl without Clomid. Most of the people on here did not take Clomid. I got my girl without Clomid.

oops01

November 13th, 2013, 10:10 PM

Thank you so much for your reply atomoic - I really appreciate your time - I used to be on ingender but no ever replies on there.

Sorry re confusion with clomic - I do believe it is safe - my gyno put me on it last year when I wasn't ovulating very often and he said its very safe - my issue now is really that while I am ovulating on my own I feel like I shouldn't tamper with nature too much as it could back fire on me - in the past when I have tried to control things too much- they always backfired so thought I would try more natural approach.
I am glad to hear clomid really only sways 3-5% anyway - I thought it was more like 30-40% .

As for FUR do u not recommend because its endangered or other health risks? and does it have same sway effect as clomid ?

Can I tell u what I am currently doing or planning to do for sway and feel free to add or comment on anything? Only if u have time.

LE diet (as best as I can)

using summer's eve douche before bd

trying to get DH to FR for 7 days prior (had him abstain for 7 this month but then worried about defective sperm as he is 40

aiming for female zodiac sign (but not too fussed)

no suppls or vitamins

Of course people get boys on Clomid. The studies show different % depending on who they were studying, but the Clomid was swaying by 3-5%. I think that swayers who do not have PCOS and who are not using supplemental estrogen or Preseed etc, can expect much higher success than that.

Please do not use false unicorn root. I already explained why in the other thread you posted this in. I don't want anyone using FUR.

You still have every chance in the world at getting a girl without Clomid. Most of the people on here did not take Clomid. I got my girl without Clomid.

atomic sagebrush

November 14th, 2013, 04:47 PM

1)clomid IN STUDIES only sways 3-5%. But those women who are given Clomid because they need it in order to ovulate, often have PCOS which means they are much more likely to have boys to begin with, and also because most people who take Clomid are told to do boy-friendly things like Preseed, SMEP, supplemental Estrogen, and Robi-muci which will undo a lot of the benefits of the Clomid for pink swaying. Despite this, it's STILL swaying by 3-5% in studies.

I do not know and will not guess at the % that it will sway for people who do not have PCOS and who are not doing boy-friendly, fertility boosting stuff. That has not been studied and I actually think you're best off looking at our stats on that. I can all but guarantee that for pink swayers, Clomid gets more than 3-5%.

2)I do not recommend FUR because we don't know how it sways, we don't know if it's safe, most of what is being sold currently as FUR is not even FUR anyway, and to top it all off it is being wiped out in the wild.

No, it does not sway like Clomid.

The rest of your sway looks fine to me, good luck!

oops01

November 16th, 2013, 06:49 AM

thanks for your replies ladies - that gives me more reassurance ( did anyone take the clomid for pcos or other reasons)

Yes, I did a full on girl sway on Clomid and conceived my little boy that I'm carrying now. It's no magic bullet!

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oops01

November 16th, 2013, 06:49 AM

yes, with a strict LE diet, aspirin, missing breakfast, exercise and girl timing :(

thanks for your replies ladies - that gives me more reassurance ( did anyone take the clomid for pcos or other reasons)

oops01

November 16th, 2013, 06:54 AM

Thanks again Atomic - I don't like to keep wasting your time - is there a paid info section where I can pay you for the time you spend? I still have other questions but would l feel bad about you spending your time replying . was thinking of buying a personalised plan but trying to conceive in 3 weeks - will that be enough time?

QUOTE=atomic sagebrush;495007]1)clomid IN STUDIES only sways 3-5%. But those women who are given Clomid because they need it in order to ovulate, often have PCOS which means they are much more likely to have boys to begin with, and also because most people who take Clomid are told to do boy-friendly things like Preseed, SMEP, supplemental Estrogen, and Robi-muci which will undo a lot of the benefits of the Clomid for pink swaying. Despite this, it's STILL swaying by 3-5% in studies.

I do not know and will not guess at the % that it will sway for people who do not have PCOS and who are not doing boy-friendly, fertility boosting stuff. That has not been studied and I actually think you're best off looking at our stats on that. I can all but guarantee that for pink swayers, Clomid gets more than 3-5%.

2)I do not recommend FUR because we don't know how it sways, we don't know if it's safe, most of what is being sold currently as FUR is not even FUR anyway, and to top it all off it is being wiped out in the wild.

No, it does not sway like Clomid.

The rest of your sway looks fine to me, good luck![/QUOTE]

christinelab

November 16th, 2013, 10:45 AM

So, is it ''better'' Clomid or Vitex + Saw Palmetto?

rainbowflower

November 16th, 2013, 10:52 AM

Dreamofpink

November 16th, 2013, 11:41 AM

thanks for your replies ladies - that gives me more reassurance ( did anyone take the clomid for pcos or other reasons)

Nope, it was purely for swaying reasons. No issues with my fertility except I had lost too much weight & screwed up ov before starting on Clomid. I want to sway again but found that Clomid made it hard for me to judge ov so we made more than one attempt. Next time I'm almost certain that I'll just do diet & exercise as it's hard to get hold of Clomid.

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atomic sagebrush

November 16th, 2013, 12:23 PM

I have done personalized plans for people with very quick turnarounds like that, as long as I know you need it right away I can rearrange things (some people buy their plans months in advance and people have always been very understanding about me rescheduling plans for people who need one sooner.

The other thing you can consider is that there is the Dream Membership for $12 a year and the $$ goes partly to me and partly to support the site, or the LE Diet books too.

I will of course always answer all questions, including free ones, but I do appreciate the $$ because it enables me to do this as a job rather than having to go back to work.

atomic sagebrush

November 16th, 2013, 12:28 PM

So, is it ''better'' Clomid or Vitex + Saw Palmetto?

I think Clomid is better by a lot.

atomic sagebrush

November 16th, 2013, 12:34 PM

the stats are showing that vitex isn't really doing too well for swaying at the moment

we're at 64% of ALL pink swayers getting girls at the moment
but only 58.57% of those taking vitex get girls
59.18% success for saw palmetto
75% of those using clomid as part of pink sway get girls
62.13% of those NOT using clomid are getting girls, so only a little below our overall average

Did you guys read the recent study about herbal supplements where a lot of them were really diluted and some of them didn't even have the "stuff" in them?? http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/05/science/herbal-supplements-are-often-not-what-they-seem.html?_r=0 At least with Clomid, we know there's actually something IN there. :s

lovemy2blessings

November 16th, 2013, 01:07 PM

Wow! YOu did everything that I'm doing now I'm scared to get Clomid next week. :(

yes, with a strict LE diet, aspirin, missing breakfast, exercise and girl timing :(

atomic sagebrush

November 16th, 2013, 02:14 PM

Wow! YOu did everything that I'm doing now I'm scared to get Clomid next week. :(

Why?? Surely you're not taking one person's experience as proof that Clomid sways blue - we have studies that show clearly that it sways pink. NOTHING IS A MAGIC BULLET.

lovemy2blessings

November 16th, 2013, 03:32 PM

You are right! At this point I just need to get pregnant asap!

rainbowflower

November 16th, 2013, 03:37 PM

Wow! YOu did everything that I'm doing now I'm scared to get Clomid next week. :(
sometimes the dice just don't roll in your favour. There are others who did the same as NS did and got girls, just NS's new baby beat the odds - doesn't mean that what she was doing wasn't swaying pink very strongly. We can only give mother nature a nudge unfortunately.

lovemy2blessings

November 17th, 2013, 11:10 AM

So true what's meant to is meant to be.

oops01

November 22nd, 2013, 07:48 PM

Hi Atomic - I tried to register as a dream member but can't see the "order now" button to pay using visa - or is paypal the only payment option?

thanks

Thanks again Atomic - I don't like to keep wasting your time - is there a paid info section where I can pay you for the time you spend? I still have other questions but would l feel bad about you spending your time replying . was thinking of buying a personalised plan but trying to conceive in 3 weeks - will that be enough time?

QUOTE=atomic sagebrush;495007]1)clomid IN STUDIES only sways 3-5%. But those women who are given Clomid because they need it in order to ovulate, often have PCOS which means they are much more likely to have boys to begin with, and also because most people who take Clomid are told to do boy-friendly things like Preseed, SMEP, supplemental Estrogen, and Robi-muci which will undo a lot of the benefits of the Clomid for pink swaying. Despite this, it's STILL swaying by 3-5% in studies.

I do not know and will not guess at the % that it will sway for people who do not have PCOS and who are not doing boy-friendly, fertility boosting stuff. That has not been studied and I actually think you're best off looking at our stats on that. I can all but guarantee that for pink swayers, Clomid gets more than 3-5%.

2)I do not recommend FUR because we don't know how it sways, we don't know if it's safe, most of what is being sold currently as FUR is not even FUR anyway, and to top it all off it is being wiped out in the wild.

No, it does not sway like Clomid.

The rest of your sway looks fine to me, good luck![/QUOTE]

maria02

November 23rd, 2013, 05:13 AM

I'm not on it myself but these are the people I know who conceived on clomid:
#1 had two boys both on clomid
#2 had a girl on clomid and then conceived a boy naturally without clomid
#3 had a boy on clomid
#4 had two boys on clomid and then conceived a girl naturally without clomid (only a 12 month gap between her youngest two though!)
#5 had boy/girl twins on clomid

#2, 3 and 5 have PCOS but I'm not sure about the other two. They were trying for ages beforehand though so possibly. No swaying that I know of.

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atomic sagebrush

November 23rd, 2013, 12:37 PM

Hi Atomic - I tried to register as a dream member but can't see the "order now" button to pay using visa - or is paypal the only payment option?

thanks

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No, you can use Visa, if it still isn't working then please either post a thread in the "forum problems" section or else message nuthinbutpink, I'm sorry I don't handle the technical aspects of the site and can't help with stuff like that.

oops01

November 24th, 2013, 07:32 AM

Thanks Atomic - I have posted question so hopefully they get back to me as I would like to ask you few more questions and have personalised plan asap as I want to attempt in 2 weeks. Have completely blown diet over last 2 weeks - been really down and eating like a mad woman :(
chat soon
x

No, you can use Visa, if it still isn't working then please either post a thread in the "forum problems" section or else message nuthinbutpink, I'm sorry I don't handle the technical aspects of the site and can't help with stuff like that.[/QUOTE]

nuthinbutpink

November 24th, 2013, 08:41 AM

You may use VISA via paypal.

Trishy74

November 26th, 2013, 12:31 PM

A friend of mine took clomid with iui and she got twin boys. However she wasn't swaying at all and I'm sure she was eating what she wanted and I know she drank wine often. For some reason I'm thinking iui and clomid sway boy but I can't recall why. Maybe someone on here can correct me if I'm wrong or if correct, give the reason why.

atomic sagebrush

November 26th, 2013, 12:38 PM

I do think IUI sways blue by circumventing the vaginal environment all together and dumping a bunch of precapacitated sperm directly into the uterus.

oops01

December 1st, 2013, 07:25 AM

Hi Atomic, I have finally paid for dream membership - I still couldn't work out how to pay by visa so finally managed to get my husbands paypal details. do I ask questions here or is there a private msg that I ask specific questions? I will post questions here but if u prefer to reply via pirvate msg, pls do so:
Trying to conceive a gril in about 8 days but have not stuck to diet at all in last few weeks.
1. What is the best food/supps I can have leading up to attempt in 8 days?
I plan to skip breakfast each day and eat very little.

2. DH is 40 so is it best to do FR or abstain and what is the miminum time for FR?

3. as we r both 40 and want to get preg soon - can we do more than one attempt and does it matter what days?

4. anything else I can do for the next 8 days that would sway?

thank you so much

I have done personalized plans for people with very quick turnarounds like that, as long as I know you need it right away I can rearrange things (some people buy their plans months in advance and people have always been very understanding about me rescheduling plans for people who need one sooner.

The other thing you can consider is that there is the Dream Membership for $12 a year and the $$ goes partly to me and partly to support the site, or the LE Diet books too.

I will of course always answer all questions, including free ones, but I do appreciate the $$ because it enables me to do this as a job rather than having to go back to work.

atomic sagebrush

December 1st, 2013, 02:40 PM

Thank you!

I answer q's in the Dream Members section first so if you need a quick response it's best to post in there.

1)With that quick a turnaround I would just do antihistamine starting either when you see any EWCM or 5 days before you expect ovulation, whichever comes first. I think the hormonal supps will only delay ovulation without any benefit for swaying.

Re diet, don't cut back too far, you will delay ovulation. Stick within the limits of the LE Diet, altho you might want to aim for the lower limits for these 8 days.

There are no magic foods, but if you dropped meat it may help. I would give DH soymilk daily if he's willing to drink it and some peppermint tea. You can drink some aspartame, I'm not convinced it does much but 2-3 servings a day is the safe level

2)FR would be better than abstain for a 40 year old. 7 days release before attempt.

3)OR, a better option would be for you guys to do regular release every 2-4 days with one attempt. This will put you in with a good chance of pink but still maintains decent odds of conception.

4)If you were able to lose just a smidge of weight it may help, doesn't need to be a lot, I only lost 3 lbs.

oops01

December 3rd, 2013, 09:59 PM

Hi atomic, thank you for that - just confirming point 3. does that mean he only has to release every 2 -4 days? That wld b better for him as he struggles to release every day. Is it the one attempt that sways pink?

Thank you!

I answer q's in the Dream Members section first so if you need a quick response it's best to post in there.

1)With that quick a turnaround I would just do antihistamine starting either when you see any EWCM or 5 days before you expect ovulation, whichever comes first. I think the hormonal supps will only delay ovulation without any benefit for swaying.

Re diet, don't cut back too far, you will delay ovulation. Stick within the limits of the LE Diet, altho you might want to aim for the lower limits for these 8 days.

There are no magic foods, but if you dropped meat it may help. I would give DH soymilk daily if he's willing to drink it and some peppermint tea. You can drink some aspartame, I'm not convinced it does much but 2-3 servings a day is the safe level

2)FR would be better than abstain for a 40 year old. 7 days release before attempt.

3)OR, a better option would be for you guys to do regular release every 2-4 days with one attempt. This will put you in with a good chance of pink but still maintains decent odds of conception.

4)If you were able to lose just a smidge of weight it may help, doesn't need to be a lot, I only lost 3 lbs.

oops01

December 4th, 2013, 04:48 AM

sorry, one more question.
I was hoping to ovulate in a female moon sign this month but looks like it will be in a male moon sign - I previously missed a total of over 12 months waiting for female moon sign - was really convinced of this through ingender - I still can't help but think it is really important. I have consulted with well respected astrologers over the last couple of years and they swear by it saying it has great success. This is very different to biorhythms - astrologers don't work with biorythims and most don't even know what they are. I understand that bios were thought up by a patient of Freud , however, i think he was also a physican and mathmetician. anyway I don't put too much stock in bios but am a bit hung up on moon signs - but don't want to miss another month because of this - what does yr research say about this?
Thanks x

Thank you!

I answer q's in the Dream Members section first so if you need a quick response it's best to post in there.

1)With that quick a turnaround I would just do antihistamine starting either when you see any EWCM or 5 days before you expect ovulation, whichever comes first. I think the hormonal supps will only delay ovulation without any benefit for swaying.

Re diet, don't cut back too far, you will delay ovulation. Stick within the limits of the LE Diet, altho you might want to aim for the lower limits for these 8 days.

There are no magic foods, but if you dropped meat it may help. I would give DH soymilk daily if he's willing to drink it and some peppermint tea. You can drink some aspartame, I'm not convinced it does much but 2-3 servings a day is the safe level

2)FR would be better than abstain for a 40 year old. 7 days release before attempt.

3)OR, a better option would be for you guys to do regular release every 2-4 days with one attempt. This will put you in with a good chance of pink but still maintains decent odds of conception.

4)If you were able to lose just a smidge of weight it may help, doesn't need to be a lot, I only lost 3 lbs.

atomic sagebrush

December 4th, 2013, 01:55 PM

Hi atomic, thank you for that - just confirming point 3. does that mean he only has to release every 2 -4 days? That wld b better for him as he struggles to release every day. Is it the one attempt that sways pink?

Yes exactly. I now believe due to the stats and our results, that it's the one attempt that seems to be strongly swaying much more reliably than anything having to do with frequency patterns, so I think it best for anyone who may not be able to do frequency and/or to conceive using one attempt WITH frequency, to drop pink frequency patterns and do regular release every 2-4 days and keep the one attempt. It's totally possible to get pg with one attempt provided that you aren't reducing sperm numbers too far with frequency.

atomic sagebrush

December 4th, 2013, 02:19 PM

sorry, one more question.
I was hoping to ovulate in a female moon sign this month but looks like it will be in a male moon sign - I previously missed a total of over 12 months waiting for female moon sign - was really convinced of this through ingender - I still can't help but think it is really important. I have consulted with well respected astrologers over the last couple of years and they swear by it saying it has great success. This is very different to biorhythms - astrologers don't work with biorythims and most don't even know what they are. I understand that bios were thought up by a patient of Freud , however, i think he was also a physican and mathmetician. anyway I don't put too much stock in bios but am a bit hung up on moon signs - but don't want to miss another month because of this - what does yr research say about this?
Thanks x

Just to clarify on the biorhythms, yes, the guy who made them up was a mathematician but he was still mentally ill and based the number on 28 day cycles because he thought that all women had 28 day cycles. Biorhythms have been debunked in 134 studies.

RE astrology, nothing I say is going to talk you out of using them if you are convinced about them. But science indicates that gender swaying works not because of magic or mysticism, it's because cues from your environment "tell" your body that a boy or a girl has a better chance of survival to adulthood and passing down their genes to future generations. If a person didn't have enough resources in your environment to optimize survival for a boy one week, it makes no sense that their body would conceive one based on the constellations in the sky a day or a week later.

I will say, and I don't mean this to be harsh but more as a wake up call, that I think it's a HUGE mistake to give up years out of your fertile window and it makes me really sad that a year has gone by that you're never going to have back again. I beg you to rethink that tactic because you are going to be out of your fertile years faster than you even think possible and I don't want you to regret missed opportunities, because if you don't get pg you have no chance of your desired gender.

GT77

December 16th, 2013, 09:49 PM

biorhythms theory for me said - boy! I was in full moon = boy, Chinese calendar said boy, and I ovulated on the right side = boy, Ramaz theory was in the middle and closer to right side - boy. It's fun when you are pregnant to think about these fun things of what the baby maybe in the weeks to finding out. I would not based on when I was going to get pregnant on any of this! It wasn't true for me at all & I'm having a girl!

oops01

January 28th, 2014, 02:51 AM

Hi Atomic, I haven't been on here for a while - have not had success conceiving at all in fact I am quite worried as for the last 3 cycles have completely changed from what there were - I used to get a lot of fertile mucus including EWCM for about 4-6 days prior to O - but the last 3 cycles I have had a little bit for about half a day and then nothing and no other ovulation signs. I hope I haven't missed the boat and can no longer conceive? I am so angry with myself that I wasted so much time following the moon signs - I wish I had come to this site from the start. I will be 41 in about 6 months - do you think I can no longer conceive naturally? Thanks very much

atomic sagebrush

January 28th, 2014, 01:22 PM

I got my daughter at 41 1/2 so it is possible for at least some of us, but the odds are dropping fast with every month that passes by. We need to be ready to catch "the golden egg" and in with a good attempt every month.

You can def. get pg with little to no visible CM - there is still some up inside.

Tell me what all you're doing and then I can help you tweak it for best odds of conception but still swaying pink.

oops01

February 6th, 2014, 01:46 AM

Thanks very much atomic, I tried your suggestion this month so see how I go. There is one concern I have though - the fact that we have been trying for a girl means neither my husband or I have had any vitamins supplements or eaten a lot for over 6 months - the only thing I take is folate. I scared myself by reading a well known natural fertility book which really emphasis the importance of prenatal vitamins and nutrition for a healthy baby for several months before conception - what r your thoughts on this? I am now concerned about abnormalities or further m/c. Thanks p.s I have also posted this question on the other thread so not sure whichever one you read first .

Other things I am doing is one attempt if I get positive opk but haven't been getting positive opk so just attempting every 3 days around usual time I used to get ovulation signs . thanks again Atomic - you're always very helpful xx

I got my daughter at 41 1/2 so it is possible for at least some of us, but the odds are dropping fast with every month that passes by. We need to be ready to catch "the golden egg" and in with a good attempt every month.

You can def. get pg with little to no visible CM - there is still some up inside.

Tell me what all you're doing and then I can help you tweak it for best odds of conception but still swaying pink.