Is Timing for Swaying for a Girl at MUST.

[GT77]

Hi,

I swayed for a girl with only "one attempt" either 1 day or 2 days before. Since I did hcg shot we are not clear when I ovulated.

I would like to hear from you girls who swayed for a girl and got a girl. I would like you to list the DAY Or DAY'S you bed, and please also list if you abstained, frequently, or one attempt or your method.

I am worried that one attempt a day before or 2 days before may get me a boy. I know they say timing isn't everything, but I would love to here from your experience. I am going to look thru the sways and see if I can find any attempts that had girls with one attempt before O.

Thanks for your help!! The OTW are driving me crazy and I now want to hear from you girls who already had successful girl attempts!!

[Pumpkin2011]

One attempt at positiv OPK has the best results so I don't really understand why you are beating yourself up about timing. You O 36-48h after a trigger shot so you should be able to pinpoint O day. Even if your timing was perfect we don't now how you did with the rest of the sway.

[atomic sagebrush]

I got a girl from one attempt late at night the day before I ovulated. We had been having sex in perfect boy frequency every 4-5 days but that was the only attempt in my fertile window.

I got 3 of my 4 boys with cutoffs. Timing doesn't sway.

[GT77]

I had a a very good sway. I stayed a vegetarian and skipped breakfast. I am concerned because I am reading many many girl sway attempts, and I am seeing the did bed 4 days prior and then 2 or 1 days prior. I can't find anyone who had just one attempt one day before O and had a girl. I did find some that had bed 2 days before and had a girl. I had a 28 days cycle and my shot was given to me on day 14. We bed that night. My concern is I worry what if I ovulated on day 15. I did not have any ovulation problems so they did not give me the shot due to that, but gave me the shot since he wanted to help me get pregnant. Most of what I read if you have had sex one day prior you end up with a boy. I know that there are those rare occasions that u end up with a girl, but I can't find any attempts accept one. I would love to see more and then that would make me feel more confident and then I accept whatever ended up happening it isn't because I didn't bed earlier enough then I should have.

[rainbowflower]

look on the spreadsheet, you can filter it by number of attempts. Here is the link with that setting done for you (filtered to only show 1 attempt - you can look at the timing column yourself):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AuwCV-IDm3wodFRQSHVqWmk3djdqZThSSDBiQWM4bFE&type=view&gid=0&f=true&colid0=11&filterstr0=1&sortcolid=-1&sortasc=true&rowsperpage=250

most people who did what you did probably entered for timing "at pos OPK"

but regardless of timing, you had a clomid sway right...? that has amazing odds on it's own even without the diet, etc. You have a strong sway!

[rainbowflower]

and our results show that timing doesn't sway. Number of attempts does, though, and 1 attempt is best so far so you already tick that box

[atomic sagebrush]

GT, you have to remember that most people walking around out there, have NO IDEA what day they ovulated. They really, really do not and this has been proven in studies, even with temping and charting and monitoring CM/CP, people did not guess their day of ovulation correctly any more than by random chance. Let alone anyone who wasn't doing those things and just relying on a calendar. They have heard that timing supposedly sways and then when they get a girl, they think back and decide "oh I must have had an attempt this day", and/or they may have been swaying in other ways and so they BD on a particular day, but that doesn't mean it was BD that day that did anything. just as rainbow says, things like frequency and number of attempts can sway and most people do both frequency and one attempt with timing.

I have studied this for 5 years and I can say without a doubt in my mind that you can get a boy or a girl any day of the cycle. I know many, many people who got girls on O and O-1 and boys with cutoffs, so I'm not sure who these people are that you're talking to. I do not and would not ever recommend something to people that I felt would harm their sway.

[Quad7114]

Looking back (at my times of getting pregnant) and not even knowing about swaying I don't think it's about timing. There are soo many things to take into consideration. At first when I got on here in July I read thru everything and was a tad confused on where to start. Then in September I only focused on reading 2013 posts and that helped me a lot. Atomic's thread about doing 1 attempt had a ton of info and her conclusion about the 1 attempt then what she thought 1-2 yrs before that. I would put the thread on here but I can't remember where it is. I will try to find it.

[GT77]

I think I ovulated on day 15, and I bed on day 14. My concern is I think I bed one day before Ovulation, instead of possibly two days.

I was looking thru people sway attempt's both boy and girl who bed day before O. I did see some boys, but I wilt take a look at this spreadsheet. Thank u exactly what I'm looking for. On the spreadsheet it says positive OPK but doesn't say if it is the day before O and the sway attempts say that.
My worry is I had a 28 day cycle, hcg shot on day 14 and one attempt that night. My dr office thinks I ovulated either night of 15 day or 16 day. I didn't need hcg to ovulate and my cycle was regular. A typical 28 day cycle and u ovulate on day 15. I'm just worried that it was to soon, and it isn't anyone's fault, I just feel that I had sex the day before ovulation. And, hey maybe that will still sway pink with me being on clomid. But the OwT are beating me up since I have zero symptoms.
I know I can't listen to OWT but it's hard not to. I didn't get sick with my son and I'm not sick now.
So just let me know how long after positive OPK do u ovulate? How many hours is typically?

[HopeandDreamG]

Timing doesn't sway. Period.

[rainbowflower]

timing doesn't sway. Most people OV the day after a pos OPK.
Here's a picture from a scientific study (Shettles study wasn't scientific) which shows when boys/girls are conceived and you can see it's very equal on almost every day. If one day swayed more, the results would be much more drastic:
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[Girlfriend]

So if timing doesn't sway what does to get a girl other then diet?

[rainbowflower]

So if timing doesn't sway what does to get a girl other then diet?
diet sways the most, but other factors you can include are:

weight loss
low blood glucose (including skipping breakfast, cinnamon supps, and diet)
exercise (cardio. Can help with above 2- the weight loss and low blood glucose)
low pH
low androgens (sex hormones)
low sperm count (currently debatable)
ions (also debatable but can't hurt to include)

[GT77]

I just ordered ph sticks so I'm mad I didn't test my urine before I had bed to know what my ph was. I Have no idea. Does clomid lower your ph?
I don't even know what cinnamon supplements you are referring to? Didn't take that. I also allowed myself to eat candy to full up on extra calories. I hope that is ok worried about glucose now that u r mentioning it. I skipped breakfast had bagel and cream cheese for lunch and yogurt at 4pm and dinner couscous and sour cream and sometimes added candy. Whatever is meant to be boy or girl at this point I will get can't beat myself up. :). Will see what happens!

[rainbowflower]

I just ordered ph sticks so I'm mad I didn't test my urine before I had bed to know what my ph was. I Have no idea. Does clomid lower your ph?
I don't even know what cinnamon supplements you are referring to? Didn't take that. I also allowed myself to eat candy to full up on extra calories. I hope that is ok worried about glucose now that u r mentioning it. I skipped breakfast had bagel and cream cheese for lunch and yogurt at 4pm and dinner couscous and sour cream and sometimes added candy. Whatever is meant to be boy or girl at this point I will get can't beat myself up. :). Will see what happens!
you don't use the pH sticks on your urine - it's on CM and often with clomid you don't actually have any CM so wouldn't have been able to test anyway

I really think you need to stop torturing yourself and picking things apart. Your sway is done now and you gave it your best shot so you can have no regrets. Most of us on here would die for a good clomid sway like yours - you have such a strong sway. Honestly!

[atomic sagebrush]

timing doesn't sway. Most people OV the day after a pos OPK.
Here's a picture from a scientific study (Shettles study wasn't scientific) which shows when boys/girls are conceived and you can see it's very equal on almost every day. If one day swayed more, the results would be much more drastic:
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Please note on the graphic rainbow posted, there were actually more GIRLS conceived on O-1 and O Day!!!!!

[GT77]

Ok thank you guys that makes me feel better!! Whatever happens happens!! I def see the pro's to ivf, but there are also so many negatives!! I know in 20 years from now, there is going to be a simple way to pick gender!! LOL and we will be wishing we were 20 years younger!! lol

[atomic sagebrush]

I just ordered ph sticks so I'm mad I didn't test my urine before I had bed to know what my ph was. I Have no idea. Does clomid lower your ph?
I don't even know what cinnamon supplements you are referring to? Didn't take that. I also allowed myself to eat candy to full up on extra calories. I hope that is ok worried about glucose now that u r mentioning it. I skipped breakfast had bagel and cream cheese for lunch and yogurt at 4pm and dinner couscous and sour cream and sometimes added candy. Whatever is meant to be boy or girl at this point I will get can't beat myself up. :). Will see what happens!

GT, the benefit of having a custom sway plan is that I do all that stuff FOR you. I personally do not recommend ANYONE testing pH any more. I ahve seen so many pH opposites that I no longer believe it is accurate at all whatsoever. And I think testing for pH makes people's T levels go up and they get obsessed with it.

I believe Clomid sways pink because it affects your hormones and not because of pH.

Re the cinnamon, if I had wanted you to take that, I would have included it. I have not yet seen enough results to include that for most people.

Eating candy and sugar makes blood sugar go up but it's only temporary. After you eat it, your blood sugar drops. It is FINE to eat sugar when on LE Diet.

I'm not sure what all this is about but I give you my word that I did the best that I could for you and your sway. I have spent many hours researching this stuff and when I leave things out, it's because I do not believe them to be helpful for people. Pregnancy hormones can make the wheels start spinning but you are not helping yourself here, it's over and done with now and there is no changing it anyway.

[atomic sagebrush]

I think I ovulated on day 15, and I bed on day 14. My concern is I think I bed one day before Ovulation, instead of possibly two days.

I was looking thru people sway attempt's both boy and girl who bed day before O. I did see some boys, but I wilt take a look at this spreadsheet. Thank u exactly what I'm looking for. On the spreadsheet it says positive OPK but doesn't say if it is the day before O and the sway attempts say that.
My worry is I had a 28 day cycle, hcg shot on day 14 and one attempt that night. My dr office thinks I ovulated either night of 15 day or 16 day. I didn't need hcg to ovulate and my cycle was regular. A typical 28 day cycle and u ovulate on day 15. I'm just worried that it was to soon, and it isn't anyone's fault, I just feel that I had sex the day before ovulation. And, hey maybe that will still sway pink with me being on clomid. But the OwT are beating me up since I have zero symptoms.
I know I can't listen to OWT but it's hard not to. I didn't get sick with my son and I'm not sick now.
So just let me know how long after positive OPK do u ovulate? How many hours is typically?

First of all, at this stage of gestation, if you WERE pregnant with a boy, he isn't even making testosterone yet so your body literally CANNOT tell the difference between a boy or a girl yet and there could be no difference in symptoms.

Secondly, symptoms do NOT predict gender anyway. I had the least amount of sickness with my girl and one of my boys, and then bad sickness with my other 3 boys. My mom never had morning sickness or even heartburn with any pregnancy and she had girls and one boy.

To answer your question, you will ovulate 8-48 hours after a pos OPK. Average is 36 hours.

[atomic sagebrush]

So if timing doesn't sway what does to get a girl other then diet?

In my signature below there is a link to the Complete Index which has tons of essays on various sway tactics.

[atomic sagebrush]

diet sways the most, but other factors you can include are:

weight loss
low blood glucose (including skipping breakfast, cinnamon supps, and diet)
exercise (cardio. Can help with above 2- the weight loss and low blood glucose)
low pH
low androgens (sex hormones)
low sperm count (currently debatable)
ions (also debatable but can't hurt to include)

Just to clarify on the low sperm count thing - I still def. believe, and the data supports, that low sperm count sways pink. We have tons of studies from things that are completely unrelated to each other, that show things that lower sperm coutn and reduce sperm health, all lead to more daughters conceived. What is debatable about it (at least for me) is that frequency patterns are really lowering sperm count in the "right" kind of way to sway gender very much. I think they do work, but the stress involved and the fact that frequency really lower odds of conception considerably, undoes a lot of the benefits and so I am thinking we need to play with trying the one attempt without the frequency for awhile and see what kind of results we get with that.

But it does NOT mean that I don't think low sperm count sways, because I do and the data supports that it does. I would even go so far as to say that's the second-most proven aspect of swaying, behind glucose levels in the CM (not blood glucose, that is not proven yet)

[atomic sagebrush]

PS - why would you order pH sticks now?? Just to make sure you know, your urine pH does not predict gender during pregnancy. Nor does it tell you anything of value for swaying.

[GT77]

Atomic- u know I couldn't do this with out you! All your guidance and support is well worth it and I'm pregnant! Sorry to express myself in a way that makes you or anyone feel that I am not thankful for the sway because I am. The OWT is all over the web so it is going to play a roll in gender prediction whether it is true or false. Our minds are so addicted to the internet and we read into every sign that we have and every sign we don't have that it really can drive you nuts!! My sister told me to stop reading because it is what it is! I know I did my best and whatever is meant to be will be! It isn't having that girl and wanting it so bad that makes me second guess everything. This is my last baby and u know how I decided last minute not to do ivf which was without a doubt the right decision since ivf at my age isn't a shut close case. I know if I have a baby boy it will be ok. I can't wait to meet the baby inside of me since my son is so special. I can't imagine being błeased with two miracles. My sister has a boy and a girl. Her daughter is really girly and fun and a lot of energy but I would love I'm my life o experience both. Ok I'm going to put this topic to rest now! I find out the results either on Friday or next week! I will keep u updated an Atomic thank you for everything u have been my rock these past months and months we have spoken for! Your guidance and support has meant so much to me!! Thank you!!

[atomic sagebrush]

GT it is 100% fine to ask and question, but I'm just trying to get into your head and calm things down a bit! :)

[atomic sagebrush]

also, I just saw this thread was locked which happens accidentally sometimes, so I unlocked it, let me know if you intentionally had locked it.

[Girlfriend]

How do you get a plan atomic and how much do u charge for the support u offer? What does OWT stand for.
I tried to read up on your thread u referred me to but there r so many abbreviations I don't understand (is there an explanation list)

[pinkin2011]

Girlfriend, OWT Is Old Wives tales. It took me a long time to figure out some things and i still dont know a real lot! you will get there!

Sorry to jump in girls thought id help out!..