Help needed???

[Hana]

Hi to all you lovely ladies,can someone help me.im using clearblue monitor to see my ovulation day to sway blue.after being on this forum I've read that timing doesn't count really but as my ph is very acidic so was thinking it might be a good idea to dtd on or before ovulation.so the monitor shows 2 high fertility and 2peak fertility days and it says that the 2nd peak day is suppose to be the ovulation day so what times are the best to dtd to sway blue as i don't want to just dtd at once.thanks to all for reading and all comments are welcome:-)
Is it ok to have wheatabix with milk for breakfast and 1 cup milky tea.other than that I've started doing the he diet.hope it works but more I read about it,the more I get confused1more questions my dh has been a bit ill recently, lost weight too.you think would it effect sperm count or anything??
I'm going to dtd next month so just trying to get everything together.ph still very low.what are the chances for conceiving blue with low ph while I really don't to use any douches incase I mess it up and kill the sperms:-(
Sorry for very long post

[nuthinbutpink]

Hi there. You could take a look at the Sways from others that have been posted in the TTC Boy section. You can "see" a real sway there. Alternatively, we offer customized swaying plans created based on your answers to a couple of questionnaires. You also get a private forum to receive a quick response from our swaying coach.

[atomic sagebrush]

I would wait for your first peak and then have 3 attempts, one that night and then two the next day (morning and afternoon is best, morning and evening is ok) Your husband's semen will also help to raise your pH. Be sure to lay flat for about 30 minutes after each attempt if you can. I would also use Preseed or Conceive Plus, they are way better than any of the douches anyway and will help sperm.

I think wheatabix with milk and tea are fine for breakfast!!! I would def. try to have a snack with some more protein in it within a couple hours, though. (maybe some nuts)

Please let me know about your questions on diet and/or here is the HE Diet FAQ http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-boy/27056-he-diet-faq.html

[atomic sagebrush]

Hana I just wanted to let you know that because you had posted the same q on a different thread, since I had answered this one I deleted that one.

[Hana]

Thankyou Thankyou Sooo much for the quick reply.didnt think I would get response that quick posted same question on other thread so doesn't go without noticing,lolzzz
so you saying that having low ph is fine and I can still go for it next month?????
That was my main concern cuz everywhere I read it says high ph is very important for blue sway
I'm having 3 bananas everyday,almonds,1.5 litre lemon water,orange and apple juice and a bit of sprouts, broccoli,dates whatever I can,taking 1folic acid everyday. Other than thAt not taking any supplement.is there anything else I could do or add in this diet??
how important is using preseed,I've read somewhere it doesn't really help???

[Hana]

Sorry. 2 more question,how can I get private forum.and you said dtd 3 times in 2 days,would that not lower the sperm count,I thought that sways pink?and for blue sway we should atleast have 1day abstinence???

[TTCaPRINCE]

First off ph doesn't matter. I have always been super acidic to the point where sometimes my CM bleaches black undies. My friend who has a boy and is pregnant with another also has (and always has had) very acidic ph. Diet is what is most important. And I am also a firm believer that raising your hubbys sperm count is huge too. The two main things I changed in my life for my sway was sex frequency with DH and my diet. We went from sex once every two weeks or twice every two weeks to 3-4x a week. The every 2-4 days method. We did that for 4 months to get the recommended 72 day sperm revamp. I went from never eating breakfast and only eating after I already felt like I was starving to eating breakfast AS SOON as I woke up and snacking constantly throughout the day. Ate TONS of protien and cut wayyyy back on cardio work outs and focused on strength workouts! When the month came for us to TTC we ended up having sex 1 day before a positive OPK then on the day I had a positive OPK and then the next day. Pretty much the 3 days I had a bunch of EWCM and we also used preseed too. Don't waste your time focusing on PH. Focus on your diet and hubbys sperm count! ;)

[Hana]

Thankyou soo much for taking time out to read my post and replying aswell.beleuve I'm that acidic too....but it's a relief to know that ph doesn't matter as I was thinking I will never be able to make it alakaline for months n months.
Is there any way to check dh sperm count???
Any recommendation on my diet??
And I'm taking folic acid and bought fish oil too but not sure if I should start using it?
Don't want to go for too many other supplements incase I mess things up
Will be waiting for your reply:-)

[atomic sagebrush]

Thankyou Thankyou Sooo much for the quick reply.didnt think I would get response that quick posted same question on other thread so doesn't go without noticing,lolzzz
so you saying that having low ph is fine and I can still go for it next month?????
That was my main concern cuz everywhere I read it says high ph is very important for blue sway
I'm having 3 bananas everyday,almonds,1.5 litre lemon water,orange and apple juice and a bit of sprouts, broccoli,dates whatever I can,taking 1folic acid everyday. Other than thAt not taking any supplement.is there anything else I could do or add in this diet??
how important is using preseed,I've read somewhere it doesn't really help???

I got a boy with pH of 4.5 and we've seen so many pH opposites in both pink and blue sways, it's hard for me to believe in pH any more. I have an essay on the science of pH and why it can't possibly work in the way the other sites claim that it does here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/11684-ph-pickle.html

Those foods are good boy foods but I hope you're also getting protein with them and lots of healthy fat. "alkalinizing" foods don't really sway, what matters is the nutrients in your foods helping to make you more fertile. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-boy/16806-high-everything-diet-nutshell-version.html

How much folic acid are you taking?? You should be taking 2000 mcg per day and I would also like to see you taking fish oil, a prenatal or other good-quality multivitamin, Vitamin D (up to 1000 IU a day). Those are the most important supps and then there are others that may help but are less important.

I believe Preseed helps a lot and we've gotten very good results with it.

[atomic sagebrush]

Sorry. 2 more question,how can I get private forum.and you said dtd 3 times in 2 days,would that not lower the sperm count,I thought that sways pink?and for blue sway we should atleast have 1day abstinence???

the info about the custom plans and private forums is here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/payments.php

Any attempt in your fertile window means that those swimmers can stay alive and have a chance at the egg. Low sperm count only matters when it's BEFORE the fertile window opens becasue none of those sperm have a chance at the egg.

Example - if you have 3 attempts in two days starting at positive OPK, all have an excellent chance at the egg: attempt 1 - 250 million sperm, attempt 2 - 100 million sperm, attempt 3 - 50 million sperm...all three have a great chance at the egg and that means 400 million sperm could possibly be onhand to fertilize the egg. Many of them would still be alive and there would be many capacitated sperm waiting for the egg. (this is just an example!! just making those numbers up)

If you stuck with the traditional "one attempt at ovulation", that would only be 250 million sperm and waiting until ovulation day means that most of those sperm would not have time to capacitate.

And if you had one attempt O-2 so you could skip a day, a lot of those sperm in the first batch would have capacitated and died by the time the egg rolled around - attempt one 250 million sperm and 2/3 of them die off before the egg ever arrives, then another attempt on O day, most of which wouldn't have capacitated yet - it sends up being way less sperm on hand to fertilize the egg than the 3 attempts at pos OPK would be.

What you need to avoid is having a lot of attempts before your fertile window opens up. In order to sway pink, people have to do 7-10 attempts before their fertile window opens up (and then most do only one attempt inside). Or two releases in 3-6 hours but only the second release is inside (meaning only one attempt inside)

3 attempts in 2 days, separated by many hours for your husband's sperm count to recover, when all of the releases are inside means there are many more sperm ready to fertilize the egg.

[atomic sagebrush]

did want to mention that the bleaching undies is not from acidic pH of CM but from tiny amounts of urine leakage! ;) (happens to us all after we have babies!! and even happens to those who don't have babies too!)

[atomic sagebrush]

Thankyou soo much for taking time out to read my post and replying aswell.beleuve I'm that acidic too....but it's a relief to know that ph doesn't matter as I was thinking I will never be able to make it alakaline for months n months.
Is there any way to check dh sperm count???
Any recommendation on my diet??
And I'm taking folic acid and bought fish oil too but not sure if I should start using it?
Don't want to go for too many other supplements incase I mess things up
Will be waiting for your reply:-)

You don't need to measure your DH's sperm count (it's expensive!!) just have him be releasing every 2-4 days and then go for the 3 attempts at positive OPK and it will be all good!!

[Hana]

I got a boy with pH of 4.5 and we've seen so many pH opposites in both pink and blue sways, it's hard for me to believe in pH any more. I have an essay on the science of pH and why it can't possibly work in the way the other sites claim that it does here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/11684-ph-pickle.html

Those foods are good boy foods but I hope you're also getting protein with them and lots of healthy fat. "alkalinizing" foods don't really sway, what matters is the nutrients in your foods helping to make you more fertile. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-boy/16806-high-everything-diet-nutshell-version.html

How much folic acid are you taking?? You should be taking 2000 mcg per day and I would also like to see you taking fish oil, a prenatal or other good-quality multivitamin, Vitamin D (up to 1000 IU a day). Those are the most important supps and then there are others that may help but are less important.

I believe Preseed helps a lot and we've gotten very good results with it.

I'm taking 1 folic acid everyday and that is 400ug
Bought pure cod liver oil 410mg with vitamins a& d and they gelatine free capsules as I can't have gelatine with anything.havent started these thinking I'll ask you first incase they not the fish oil ones....
For dh....same folic acid,same cod liver oil and vitamin d3 25ug and he just started these today so what do u think???
Can I start vitamin d too???
Now since last week taking everything because before I was kind of doing uh diet so was not going for calcium things but eating everything now as long as it's healthy.
Where can I get the preseed in uk and do we need to use it like a normal lube??no exact amount or anything...

[maria02]

Don't take cod liver, it's not safe in pregnancy for anyone as it contains high levels of the retinol form of vit A which can be dangerous. Can you find normal fish oil? I know Blackmores sells one- I'm not familiar with most UK brands but if you go to a chemist & let them know you're TTC and want a safe fish oil they should be able to find you one.


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[user2404]

Preseed is easily available at amazon or ebay too. xx

[atomic sagebrush]

I'm taking 1 folic acid everyday and that is 400ug
Bought pure cod liver oil 410mg with vitamins a& d and they gelatine free capsules as I can't have gelatine with anything.havent started these thinking I'll ask you first incase they not the fish oil ones....
For dh....same folic acid,same cod liver oil and vitamin d3 25ug and he just started these today so what do u think???
Can I start vitamin d too???
Now since last week taking everything because before I was kind of doing uh diet so was not going for calcium things but eating everything now as long as it's healthy.
Where can I get the preseed in uk and do we need to use it like a normal lube??no exact amount or anything...

I want you to increase the folic acid to 2000 ug (that is the same as mcg for folic acid)

I agree with Maria regarding the cod liver oil - the high levels of Vit. A in particular is not good for a pregnancy so I would store them in a cool place and reserve those for a time when you are not TTC - or you can give them to your husband, they will be good for him.

Amazon.com: NoorVitamins Omega 3 Fish Oil - 120 Softgels - Halal Vitamins: Health & Personal Care (http://www.amazon.com/NoorVitamins-Omega-Fish-Oil-Softgels/dp/B005E9JXHS) these are a halal fish oil and I believe they are available in the UK. They also sell a halal multivitamin from the same company.

Yes I'd have you take at least some Vit. D especially at this time of year as the days are so much shorter!!

I think some people have found Preseed at Boots???

[Hana]

I want you to increase the folic acid to 2000 ug (that is the same as mcg for folic acid)

I agree with Maria regarding the cod liver oil - the high levels of Vit. A in particular is not good for a pregnancy so I would store them in a cool place and reserve those for a time when you are not TTC - or you can give them to your husband, they will be good for him.

Amazon.com: NoorVitamins Omega 3 Fish Oil - 120 Softgels - Halal Vitamins: Health & Personal Care (http://www.amazon.com/NoorVitamins-Omega-Fish-Oil-Softgels/dp/B005E9JXHS) these are a halal fish oil and I believe they are available in the UK. They also sell a halal multivitamin from the same company.

Yes I'd have you take at least some Vit. D especially at this time of year as the days are so much shorter!!

I think some people have found Preseed at Boots???
Can I take that much folic acid in 1go , in 1day???400 is the meximum they sell in 1go here..
Ok going to start taking vitamin d too and will order fish oil but as it would take a few days to get here and AF if here so I've only got like 3 weeks most till actual attempt so would it still be ok???
And hubby is taking anti depressions,they won't have any kind of negative effect on blue sway,would they???

[Hana]

Is this 1ok
Pre-seed Vaginal Lubricant 40g Multi Use Tube (9 Applicators):Amazon.co.uk:Health & Personal Care (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B001G7QNKM)
And found these fish oil ones at amazon,what do u think
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B003F10R40/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1386237203&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165

[NYC_CNM]

I just posted a question to the Oct. Blue Sway chat thread, but I think I just found the answer here. So we should definitely BD today and possibly tomorrow if I'm +OPK right now and expecting O to be today or tomorrow, right? Even though we had BD for the past two nights prior to this...from what I just read it seems like all of this is in the fertile window, so it's all blue territory...if I'm reading that correctly. Thank you!

[atomic sagebrush]

Can I take that much folic acid in 1go , in 1day???400 is the meximum they sell in 1go here..
Ok going to start taking vitamin d too and will order fish oil but as it would take a few days to get here and AF if here so I've only got like 3 weeks most till actual attempt so would it still be ok???
And hubby is taking anti depressions,they won't have any kind of negative effect on blue sway,would they???

Yes, you can take additional folic acid, you just pee out any excess. Many women are prescribed this much and even 2 times more by their doctors. I would not recommend it if I didn't think it was safe. :)

3 weeks is better than no weeks!!

Antidepressants do tend to sway pink but it can be overcome by other things.

[atomic sagebrush]

Is this 1ok
Pre-seed Vaginal Lubricant 40g Multi Use Tube (9 Applicators):Amazon.co.uk:Health & Personal Care (http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B001G7QNKM)
And found these fish oil ones at amazon,what do u think
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B003F10R40/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1386237203&sr=8-1&pi=AC_SX110_SY165

yes both fine

[atomic sagebrush]

I just posted a question to the Oct. Blue Sway chat thread, but I think I just found the answer here. So we should definitely BD today and possibly tomorrow if I'm +OPK right now and expecting O to be today or tomorrow, right? Even though we had BD for the past two nights prior to this...from what I just read it seems like all of this is in the fertile window, so it's all blue territory...if I'm reading that correctly. Thank you!

Yes once that fertile window opens, all attempts are fair game and will sway blue. I cannot keep up with the support threads so if you ever have a q and need a response you will get better luck starting a new thread so I will see it.

[Hana]

Yes, you can take additional folic acid, you just pee out any excess. Many women are prescribed this much and even 2 times more by their doctors. I would not recommend it if I didn't think it was safe. :)

3 weeks is better than no weeks!!

Antidepressants do tend to sway pink but it can be overcome by other things.

So can I take 4 or 5 tablets a day at different times or all at once???
Can u suggest anything else for dh as I'm getting a bit worried now knowing anti depressions sways pink...

[atomic sagebrush]

Folic acid is best when several small doses are taken throughout the day. That way you always have some coming in and you'll just pee out whatever your body cannot use.

I would give DH a men's over 50 multivitamin but watch out because some of them have herbs in them that may interact iwth his antidepressants. Also would do fish oil and green tea if he's willing to do that. And I would have him release every 2-4 days for max. sperm health.

[Hana]

Folic acid is best when several small doses are taken throughout the day. That way you always have some coming in and you'll just pee out whatever your body cannot use.

I would give DH a men's over 50 multivitamin but watch out because some of them have herbs in them that may interact iwth his antidepressants. Also would do fish oil and green tea if he's willing to do that. And I would have him release every 2-4 days for max. sperm health.

Thankyou so so much,you are being such a big help.
Now when it's actually the month of trying for us I feel like now I'm getting the hang of everything,lol
As I still haven't started my fish oil and all this time just been taking 1 folic acid instead of 5 but been doing the diet though
I think maybe I should do this diet for another month or 2 but then I think I'll never be ready so I should just go for it???aww I just don't know what to do

[Hana]

And don't really know for sure about my ewcm,I mean sometimes it's really good,sometimes quite dry.do u think its best if I go for preseed or give it a miss.as I've read in 1of your other posts that maybe it's good to give preseed a miss because ewcm is way better than that.

[atomic sagebrush]

I agree that sometimes when it comes down to month of attempt people start getting very scared and finding reasons not to try BUT that having been said, since you haven't been taking many supps, if you are under 35 and have not been gaining too much weight, I would consider waiting till all the ducks are in a row. If you are over 35 and esp. over 38, or are gaining weight superfast on HE Diet, then go ahead and TTC this month.

[atomic sagebrush]

And don't really know for sure about my ewcm,I mean sometimes it's really good,sometimes quite dry.do u think its best if I go for preseed or give it a miss.as I've read in 1of your other posts that maybe it's good to give preseed a miss because ewcm is way better than that.

If you have the Preseed on hand you will be able to use it if need be. My thinking would be to buy some and if you have super good EWCM stick with that, if you are dry, then you can use Preseed.

[Hana]

I agree that sometimes when it comes down to month of attempt people start getting very scared and finding reasons not to try BUT that having been said, since you haven't been taking many supps, if you are under 35 and have not been gaining too much weight, I would consider waiting till all the ducks are in a row. If you are over 35 and esp. over 38, or are gaining weight superfast on HE Diet, then go ahead and TTC this month.

I'm 30 so age is not the problem yet.but I'm definitely gaining weight mostly because of bananas and snacking all the time with no exercise.i think diet wise I'm doing good,started as ig diet but then shifted to gd diet cos it made more sense and is easier aswell.but all this swaying process is really stressing so just want to go for it and get it over and done with and don't think can take it for another month or 2.but then don't want to regret later that oh I could've done this and that.my main concern at the moment is that I haven't been taking fish oil and folic acid the way I should've and that is because when I started the diet I decided I won't have any supplements,will just do the food diet incase I mess things up with supplements but I think I should've done it.
2 weeks to go now if I try in this month,started having more folic acid and starting fish oil from tomorrow.do u think I can speed up this process in these 2 weeks.starting green tea twice a day from tomorrow too
Ordered preseed too:-)

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes if you are 30 years old and havent' been doing the fish oil and folic, I would advise waiting.

You actually CAN do some exercise on HE Diet, you can do 30 min. of cardio 4 days a week and also weight lifting. As long as you're good on diet you will not be swaying pink!!! this will help prevent excess weight gain.

[Hana]

Hi atomic,just wanted to ask about supplements for dh.
He's taking frolic acid,vitamin d3,cod liver oil,fish oil,over 50 vitamins,antidepressant and green tea 1 cup a day.and now he's started taking cough syrup as he's got quite bad cough which I'm getting as we'll I think...
He's just taking whatever I'm asking him to(poor guy,lol)except antidepressant(he was already taking those)and today he was asking me that Are you sure I'm suppose to take all these tablets and I thought I'll ask you once again.
And u know those over 50 multivitamin they got primrose oil in them ,is that ok???
Will be grateful if u could answer ASAP as getting close to O week.

[atomic sagebrush]

what brand over 50??

I don't usually give EPO to DH, I need to look them up to be sure they're ok.

The over 50 vitamins should have just the right amount of folic in them, he does not need to take the big dose that you are taking.

I would prob. drop cod liver oil and just give him fish oil but that is up to you.

[Hana]

Ok thanks,told him to drop cod liver oil and just have fish oil from today:-)
He's had 9 capsules of cod liver 1everyday but not fish oil.he just started fish oil today:-(
We bought equazen eye q mind 50+ Vitamins
And it's got
fish oil 540 mg
EPA 270
Dha32mg
Evening primrose oil 135 mg
Vitamin b6 3mg
Frolic acid130 mg
Magnesium60mg
Zinc5.0mg
Gla acid 13.5 mg
Vitamin b12 2mg
And he has been having just 1folic acid 400 mg everyday