Help needed quick!!

[Fbunny3]

Hi everyone
I will try and keep this short and sweet!;)
I'm a mummy to two beautiful boys and DH has agreed to try for a girl!:))
We are both aged 32.
Diet has been in place for a while now, I don't exercise that much tho, only yoga twice a week
I have bought clearblue advance digital ov tests and could do with the following help:
I'm Due to ov this friday(5 days time) and I'm panicking with how to best approach this.... Do I BD every day from now or do I hold out till positive opk? Or do I release DH every day and then just BD on the day I get positive result??
Also would you jump and dump? I didn't do this before and could this be the result of my two DS?:)
Could really do with some help as I know I'm running out of time?!
Thanks in advance!
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[greeneyes]

Best results are showing one attempt at pos opk. As for the frequent release, I THINK daily if you aren't abstaining and if you aren't doing much extra j&d is okay?? Sure someone else will chime in and correct me if I'm wrong!


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[Fbunny3]

Thanks green eyes, I prob sound a bit silly asking questions that have already been answered but it's hard to take it all in! So on ov day would you recommend to release hubby first then BD? Or just go for BD? And is that just the one BD? Or is it better to get a few gos in that day? What about the days there after? Do u have to stop BD again?
Thanks anyone that can help!:)
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[greeneyes]

Just one attempt in fertile window so one attempt at pos opk and no more attempts.


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[atomic sagebrush]

I answered the one q in the other thread.

I can just about guarantee you that the reason you had boys is NOT down to whether you jumped and dumped or not. :)

I think we are seeing best results with conception with one attempt with jump and dump after 5 minutes and NOT immediately. I only recommend immediate j and d when people are doing a lot of attempts.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks green eyes, I prob sound a bit silly asking questions that have already been answered but it's hard to take it all in! So on ov day would you recommend to release hubby first then BD? Or just go for BD? And is that just the one BD? Or is it better to get a few gos in that day? What about the days there after? Do u have to stop BD again?
Thanks anyone that can help!:)
X

answered most of this in other thread but after ovulation, you can DTD if you want to for fun, but ~may~ want to avoid female O, in case you do not conceive this month and want to keep your testosterone down for future month's attempt. (i doubt this matters very much though!)

[Fbunny3]

Thank you so much atomic for replying truly appreciate it!:) right well let's see wat happens then, I'm going to FR DH from now until the morning of ov, then BD and see what happens!!:))

Oooo quick question, when I get the positive ov result, is that the ov day?? I may sound ridiculous asking that but I'm sure I read someone say it's the day after???
So would I get the fixed smiley face and hold off till the next day to BD?
Huge thanks with the advise:)
X

[greeneyes]

Thank you so much atomic for replying truly appreciate it!:) right well let's see wat happens then, I'm going to FR DH from now until the morning of ov, then BD and see what happens!!:))

Oooo quick question, when I get the positive ov result, is that the ov day?? I may sound ridiculous asking that but I'm sure I read someone say it's the day after???
So would I get the fixed smiley face and hold off till the next day to BD?
Huge thanks with the advise:)
X

Dtd the day of you pos opk. You ovulate 12-36 hours (I believe) after your surge. If you wait too long you might miss the egg.


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[atomic sagebrush]

I think it's best odds of conception DTD the DAY of first solid smiley. Yes, this typically equates to day before ovulation but it is best to be in with attempt at least some time in advance of O, because the sperm needs time to capacitate and make it to the egg. DTD right on ovulation has cruddy results for conception (as witnessed by the Shettles/IG blue swayers who go for months without getting pg that way)

[Fbunny3]

Ah ok that makes sense atomic thank u!!! Sorry to keeeeeep asking questions, buttttt
Tomorrow is the 'big day' fingers crossed and I'm hoping for my solid smiley face, so I'm going to release DH first then DTD within 3 hours( is that what you reccomend?) then after that when shall we next DTD? Can we just keep doing it more that day/night and the next day etc or did I ought to wait before I DTD again?
Atomic you really are a star at getting back to everyone like you do, it's so appreciated :) :) xxxxx

[maidentomother]

Just do the one attempt, one BD. I think the sooner DH can be ready to go again after release, the better, in terms of lowering sperm count.

[greeneyes]

Ah ok that makes sense atomic thank u!!! Sorry to keeeeeep asking questions, buttttt
Tomorrow is the 'big day' fingers crossed and I'm hoping for my solid smiley face, so I'm going to release DH first then DTD within 3 hours( is that what you reccomend?) then after that when shall we next DTD? Can we just keep doing it more that day/night and the next day etc or did I ought to wait before I DTD again?
Atomic you really are a star at getting back to everyone like you do, it's so appreciated :) :) xxxxx

I'm watching this response to. I thought it was ONE attempt only and having him release 3 hours before would deplete sperm count too much. Am I missing something somewhere? I've read so much on what *I* need to do and I don't feel like I read enough for what DH is supposed to do... :(

[atomic sagebrush]

Ah ok that makes sense atomic thank u!!! Sorry to keeeeeep asking questions, buttttt
Tomorrow is the 'big day' fingers crossed and I'm hoping for my solid smiley face, so I'm going to release DH first then DTD within 3 hours( is that what you reccomend?) then after that when shall we next DTD? Can we just keep doing it more that day/night and the next day etc or did I ought to wait before I DTD again?
Atomic you really are a star at getting back to everyone like you do, it's so appreciated :) :) xxxxx

I think one attempt is getting far and away best resutls so I would only have another attempt at such a point where you're certain you can't conceive from it!

[atomic sagebrush]

I'm watching this response to. I thought it was ONE attempt only and having him release 3 hours before would deplete sperm count too much. Am I missing something somewhere? I've read so much on what *I* need to do and I don't feel like I read enough for what DH is supposed to do... :(

I think that most people want to try at least the first month out including some type of frequency pattern, and the hurry up fr is one of many to choose from. Now, do I think that in the long term it's best to keep the frequency patterns in the mix - no, no I do not and in fact I think they should be first to go (and anyone who is in any kind of hurry to TTC due to age, weight loss, Clomid, hubs with cruddy sperm, etc should drop them straight away). But I think this poster is ok in those regards and does want to give it a go to see if she can TTC with frequency pattern and one attempt. :)

[hoping4agirl2014]

So I am confused when you say one attempt. Do you mean abstaining until the day of +OPK or releasing without barrier on day of +OPK?

[greeneyes]

I'm still a bit confused but I'll ask more about it in my coaching forum later. :) this topic has been on my mind a bit for the past mo or so and I'm a little off on it and probably just need to reread the articles you wrote for a better understanding.

Thanks!


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[atomic sagebrush]

ok about done in for the night but hopefully to clarify:

One attempt has gotten MUCH better results than most other sway tactics (frequency, jellies, timing,etc.) and it IS possible to get pg with one attempt provided one does not do tons of sway tactics.

Thus, makes sense to preserve one attempt even as we drop other sway tactics. (or for people who really need to get pg fast, to never include them to start with).

BUT, most people are not in special circumstances and do want to at least try a month or two or three trying everything, and so for THOSE people, they may want to give frequency + one attempt, a good try just to see if they can get pg that way so they have no regrets.

It may do nothing that one attempt hasn't already done, or it may sway a miniscule amount, but for some people they will not feel at peace unless they include every sway tactic possible at least once. This doesn't mean that this is BEST for everyone or even anyone, but does mean that some people are going to include things that I ~personally~ do not want the populace as a whole to be doing.

And because this is swaying YOUR way, not atomic's way, and everyone needs to feel fully comfy with their sways, I will support and try to help everyone to do that even when I ~personally~ don't think a tactic works or is worth its effort, it does at times put me into the position of recommending things that I ~personally~ don't think are beneficial or wise for the average person to do and esp. for people in any of the many special circumstances that sometimes arise when swaying.

So, sometimes I help people pursue sway tactics that I don't believe in and don't want the population as a whole to blindly do. This makes some peopel second guess their sways, because why is atomic helping so-and-so do that tactic when she blatantly told me not to? It's because there are no cookie cutter sways and each sway is a unique set of circumstances, and some people have the luxury of doing a lot to sway (at least the first month or two out) whereas people in a different set of circumstances do not have that luxury.

[atomic sagebrush]

So I am confused when you say one attempt. Do you mean abstaining until the day of +OPK or releasing without barrier on day of +OPK?

Could be either depending on circumstance. Frequency and number of attempts are totallly divorced from each other, they operate independent and a person can include both or neither in an overall sway.