Needing input for my first sway!

[Stargazer23]

Hi! I hope this is the right place to post this :) I'm really hoping for a daughter this time. Can anyone provide me with a little guidance with my sway? Is it enough? Do I have anything wrong? I feel so overwhelmed by all the information. Here's what I'm thinking so far...

for me- magnesium, calcium, cranberry supplements. Considering vitex. Are these all okay to take together?... Also, peppermint tea, skipping breakfast, cutting out sugar from my diet. ion fans, lunaception. Coffee? No coffee?

DH- drinking light soy milk, alcohol... what else?? lots of coffee? Frequent release for 7-10 days prior, Sudafed/antihistamines at time of attempt (both of us?) Hot tub prior. Should he take supplements like cranberry or peppermint too? LR seems to be a bit risky. He's only 30 though.

Any input would be very appreciated. I'm so excited. TIA!!!

[Stargazer23]

Also- I quit taking my multivitamin and I currently exercise and plan on stepping it up to crazy levels :) I'm 5'6" about 135lbs so I don't think I can lose a ton but I could exercise away some of my muscle mass, while eating less protein altogether. I think DH would consider taking LR if he didn't have to taste the licorice!

[keepthefaith]

Also- I quit taking my multivitamin and I currently exercise and plan on stepping it up to crazy levels :) I'm 5'6" about 135lbs so I don't think I can lose a ton but I could exercise away some of my muscle mass, while eating less protein altogether. I think DH would consider taking LR if he didn't have to taste the licorice!


Hi just wanted to say hi as I have just joined and later this year we plan to sway for a girl, we have two lovely boys at mo but i am keen to complete our family with a little pink bundle!

There is so much info it's quite complicated and contradictory so it's v scary! When do u plan to start? I think diet and ph levels are main focus!

Be good to keep in touch x

[Stargazer23]

Hi just wanted to say hi as I have just joined and later this year we plan to sway for a girl, we have two lovely boys at mo but i am keen to complete our family with a little pink bundle!

There is so much info it's quite complicated and contradictory so it's v scary! When do u plan to start? I think diet and ph levels are main focus!

Be good to keep in touch x


Hi! I have 2 boys as well :) #3 will be our last. I'm hoping to start trying soon!

[Prayingpink]

Hello there and welcome :) I'm ttc pink as well. I will say this. Atomic advises against calcium and mag. As she (and most of us) believe they sway blue. Any extra vitamins and minerals just help you're overall chance for boy. I'm taking fiber antihistamines aspirin twice a week folic acid vitex and saw palmetto. Dh is taking lr and aspirin 3x a week. Plus low everything diet

[Stargazer23]

Hello there and welcome :) I'm ttc pink as well. I will say this. Atomic advises against calcium and mag. As she (and most of us) believe they sway blue. Any extra vitamins and minerals just help you're overall chance for boy. I'm taking fiber antihistamines aspirin twice a week folic acid vitex and saw palmetto. Dh is taking lr and aspirin 3x a week. Plus low everything diet


Hi and thanks for your response!! I've suspected for awhile (since before ever ttc) that I'm estrogen dominant. I was hoping the magnesium would help since I believe it breaks down excess estrogen? Maybe I should skip the peppermint tea for me since it's estrogenic? Am I wrong to put so much emphasis on my hormone balance? Is diet and ph more significant? I am going to try to keep my blood sugar down through diet.

[Prayingpink]

Diet is most important. But atomic will be of more help with the estrogen dominance. If it does indeed help with that it might be worth keeping. Atomic will always tell you if you need something for overall health be sure to take it :) no matter what every baby deserves a healthy mama :) the pep tea is thought that it might raise estrogen so idk I think you should leave that one. Why were you taking it? Traditionally it's to lower testosterone. If that's why you want to lower testosterone then I'd suggest saw palmetto instead because you don't risk the rise of estrogen. Try not to worry much about ph. I know it's hard to drop something that was once believed to be so important but it actually not really proven. It's something for us to obsess over and cause us to raise our testosterone levels swaying boy. Try to focus on low everything diet and go from there. If something stresses you out drop it. Don't risk high testosterone for something that might not sway very well if at all. Good luck :)

[Stargazer23]

Thanks so much! I can't really remember why I thought about peppermint tea, but maybe i should give that to DH instead :)

What about progesterone creams?

I'm also breastfeeding my 20 month old about 3x a day. I think I read on here that it sways pink, but I've also read that while breastfeeding, prolactin levels are high which suppresses progesterone. So I'm confused about what way breastfeeding sways and why. :)
DS#2 was conceived while breastfeeding DS1, (and while losing that baby weight.)

[Prayingpink]

You can use progesterone cream if you'd like however I'd be careful with it. For one we aren't convinced high progesterone sways pink. Two if you get bfp while using it you need to becareful with how you stop using it. Breast feeding isn't a magic bullet (nothing is) but it does sway pink. I can't remember why since it doesn't apply to me so I kinda discarded it from my memory lol. But I know it does sway pink. I believe (plz correct me if I'm wrong lady's) that it's be cause breast feeding takes nutrients from your bady and uses extra calories to make the milk supply. So it kinda goes along with the low everything idea. In the low nutrient and calories and low glucose sways girl.

[keepthefaith]

I feel really worried that I am going to get all this wrong! There is so much information I really am not sure what is for the best?? Will a personalised plan tell me exactly what to do to increase my chances most??

[Prayingpink]

For sure. I can't afford it but really wish I could!!!! Atomic works really hard and takes all the guess work out for you. I highly suggest it. There's a ton of info on here but it's all so overwhelming and with the personalized sway you don't really have to worry about it. Have you been on in gender? Some of the info you have sounds like it came from that sight. Atomic was there originally but noticed a lot of failed sways and not a lot of it made any sense.

[Stargazer23]

I totally agree, Elaine. It's so overwhelming! I don't know if you were asking me or Elaine about ingender, Prayingpink?? :)

[Prayingpink]

Oh my appoligies. I was referring to you. I had my boys running around and such at the time so it slipped past me to specify to whom I was speaking to lol. I'm sorry

[Stargazer23]

Hehe it's okay, I know all about little boys running around (do they ever stop!?) I NEED a girl ;) I remember looking at ingender a couple years ago when I first became interested in swaying. But the last year most of my "research" has been from this site and just general studies (like the stuff about hormones). I need a little help though. I want to have fun with it and be able to tell myself that I did try!

[Prayingpink]

Oh I know lol. The boys are so worth all the mischievous little things they do but it'd be nice to be able to idk brush my hair haha. A little girl would be a breath of fresh air :) I'm in the same boat I just want to feel at peace with my sway and know at the end of the day I couldn't do anything more and it's in Gods hands

[Stargazer23]

I have a couple more questions about the sway :)
I'm guessing that keeping a low blood sugar is pretty important, right? So I'm wondering how long does it have to be and stay low? and at what time is it really important? before/during/after O, 2ww?
Also, does anyone have any input on the estrogen dominance possibility?Thanks!!

[Prayingpink]

Yes low blood sugar is pretty important. Many ppl skip breakfast to achieve low blood sugar for an extended period of time plus no snacking. But you could skip dinner if that's easier. The idea is to keep your glucose levels quite low for a good portion of the day. Atomic says to just wait to eat till you are good and hungry. It's best to do this as much as you can but really important in the days leading up to o during o and the 2ww. There was a study done that showed xx embryos do better in low glucose levels before implanting and xy favors high glucose levels.

[atomic sagebrush]

It's not the type of sway I personally recommend in a few different ways but you have a lot of good stuff in there.

In my signature below, there is a link to the Complete Index which has essays on most of these topics and I can answer any specific q's that you have!!

[atomic sagebrush]

I do want to mention that anything that seems contradictory between the sites, just ASK and I can explain why those things are different or direct you to an essay that has the explanation. I feel that the info on this site all hangs together and when it contradicts something on a different site, there is always a valid scientific reason!

[atomic sagebrush]

I have a couple more questions about the sway :)
I'm guessing that keeping a low blood sugar is pretty important, right? So I'm wondering how long does it have to be and stay low? and at what time is it really important? before/during/after O, 2ww?
Also, does anyone have any input on the estrogen dominance possibility?Thanks!!

Don't get too hung up on specific numbers of hours, it can vary depending on your needs for the day and by individual. just go from dinner to late morning/noon without any food coming in. You can still eat 3 meals in the remaining time, skipping breakfast doesn't mean you can never eat during that time of day.

It is important all cycle long and for at least 6 weeks before.

Estrogen dominance is not a medically recognized condition and while I'm not saying it's made up, it's not something that I feel is proven. We do try to lower estrogen overall for a pink sway with the LE Diet, weight loss, and fiber so it's all good either way.

[atomic sagebrush]

I have a couple more questions about the sway :)
I'm guessing that keeping a low blood sugar is pretty important, right? So I'm wondering how long does it have to be and stay low? and at what time is it really important? before/during/after O, 2ww?
Also, does anyone have any input on the estrogen dominance possibility?Thanks!!

Don't get too hung up on specific numbers of hours, it can vary depending on your needs for the day and by individual. just go from dinner to late morning/noon without any food coming in. You can still eat 3 meals in the remaining time, skipping breakfast doesn't mean you can never eat during that time of day.

It is important all cycle long and for at least 6 weeks before.

Estrogen dominance is not a medically recognized condition and while I'm not saying it's made up, it's not something that I feel is proven. We do try to lower estrogen overall for a pink sway with the LE Diet, weight loss, and fiber so it's all good either way.

[Stargazer23]

Wonderful, thanks so much for your responses! So if I focus on weight loss, low nutrients, and low blood sugar that would be the most important?
Ph and lowering sperm count would be next, but less important?
I don't want to mess us up so much that we're not able to get pregnant at all :) Does that happen a lot with a girl sway? Since we're kind of trying to make ourselves less than optimally fertile?
Last question- about the coffee... it's acidifying right? But it also speeds up sperm after he drinks it, so would be a good idea for DH to skip the coffee on the days we attempt, or would that be silly?
Thanks!

[atomic sagebrush]

I think lowering sperm count is more important than weight loss, but just want to mention it is very difficult for me to say "yes this is most important" because honestly we don't totally KNOW. I think it is best for you guys to focus on those things which are doable for you and if there was something very difficult, then you can let that go to do the things that are easier (hope that makes sense)

Yes it happens all the time tht people start off too strictly and don't get pg, that is ok though because you just start to drop tactics and eventually it all comes together. What I don't want to see is people starting off super strict, keepign with it afraid to drop anything for a year or some cray-cray lenght of time like that, and then dropping everything. Drop things gradually as you go and that works out best.

It is fine to have coffee the day of attempt, I personally don't think the data supports the idea that fast swimming sperm are doing anything to gender ratio and it will be sure to be out of his system by time of attempt. Some people choose not to have him drink it within a couple hours of attempt.

"acidfying" diet debunked here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/11684-ph-pickle.html Coffee does seem to sway a bit pink, but we don't know why that is and probably nothign to do with "acidifying" foods