Clomid cycle #1 and first attempt - does this plan sound okay or too much?

[Flowergirl]

I'd love some input regarding our impending first attempt if anybody can let me know if this sounds okay?

I've just been given a script for clomid (yay!) and it's all ready to go. I'm thinking of starting tomorrow which will be cycle day 3. We're planning on DTD every 4 days from day 8 aiming for one attempt in fertile window. I'll use repHresh the night before attempt, Zyrtec for me the morning of attempt, DH taking sudafed 2 hours before attempt then having a hot bath (and me a hot shower) and using a little sylk whilst DTD. I was also planning on having our window open and having a lavender candle and salt lamp on while we BD.

Does that sound okay or overkill? Remember I'll be taking clomid as of tomorrow but it is our first attempt (after being on LE diet & supps since Oct 2013). My BMI is now nudging under 18 so can't afford to lose anymore on diet (haven't been able to exercise due to weight loss) so we do want to fall pretty quickly but also want to give this our best shot possible.

I'd love some feedback on our plan for this month, I'm getting a bit nervous now that the time is drawing near!

Thanks so much xx

[Flowergirl]

Bump. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated :)

[carmella_marie]

I think it's always best to start out as strict as possible with lots of sway tactics and slowly taper off after a few BFNs. But with clomid,you've only got a few months you can be on it so you've got to be a bit more strategic. Diet is most important so keep that up. I don't know how fertile your situation is or the reason you were prescribed clomid, but Zyrtec plus rephresh might be too much of a good thing, since clomid will dry you up as well. Hoping atomic will chime in. I would see how much CM you have leading up to O. If there's still a lot despite he clomid you may want to include Zyrtec but if you're pretty dry then Zyrtec may be overkill, same with repHresh. Or you could try everything this month but be prepared to drop things if you get a BFN.

[Flowergirl]

Thank you Carmella, I appreciate your reply. I initially wanted to do everything and have a super strict sway this first month but when I looked at everything I realised it might be too much with clomid (which is why I'm looking for other opinions). I don't want to be on clomid for too long, I've just had a very weak two day period when I usually bleed heavily for 7 days, for some reason it looks like my lining is already weakened and I haven't even started clomid.

I'm down to 50 kilos now and my pH has stayed around 4/4.4 for months. My last cycle was 45 days long and I've never been able to pinpoint a pos OPK so I'm inclined to think I'm getting pretty infertile so maybe need to drop something to have any chance at all?

Maybe Zyrtec will just be a rescue only so I won't take it if I'm pretty dry already.

Thanks again for your help xx

[atomic sagebrush]

I think it looks perfect for first month out on Clomid and then if BFN this month, you'll have it in your system for the second go-round and then we can adjust to be more lax at that time! :)

[atomic sagebrush]

It's always an option to take Zyrtec as a rescue only!

I think the lighter period can be a side effect of lower estrogen from diet and actually may be affiliated with better odds of a girl. The month I got my daughter I also had a really light period and had the month before too.

[Flowergirl]

Woo hoo! Thank you Atomic. Love that the initial plan looks good for month one and LOVE that the lighter period is reminiscent of your pre-DD conception! Feeling at ease and ready to give our first attempt a shot in about one weeks time :) yay! Thank you! x

[GT77]

If u do all tha u won't get pregnant. Don't use sylk and no zrytec . I read a ton of sways who had boys and used zrytec. I heard rephresh if u must use with clomid should be I think sooner then a day. Look at maple's sway she used clomid & rephresh had twin girls. Most people don't take zrytec. U r so dry u don't need zrytec trust me but u can use rephresh as back up. gL

[carmella_marie]

I think the reason it looks like Zyrtec doesn't work is that lots if people do lazy sways and just rely on Zyrtec alone and they get opposites and that messes up the numbers. But Zyrtec will get rid of EWCM which we know sways blue.

[Flowergirl]

Thank you for your info GT77. I had a read of Maple's sway and it looks like she used sylk and antihistamine but dropped repHresh. What is it that repHresh does exactly? Maple also BD everyday for 5 days in the lead up to O.. now I'm thinking there would be NO hope of falling with all the things I had planned! I would really like to fall this month but I don't want to regret not doing everything I can to have my girl.. Did you take clomid GT77?

[Flowergirl]

That makes sense Carmella. Has anyone fallen preg doing ALL the things I have planned? Or is it pretty certain that I will need to drop something next month (I've already decided to only use zyrtek as a rescue method only)?:think:

[greeneyes]

I have a similar sway minus dh doing the sudafed. He is doing ole pills at night. I'm using the Zyrtec as a rescue. Will be using rephresh too.


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[greeneyes]

NM. Posted in wrong spot lol

[atomic sagebrush]

If u do all tha u won't get pregnant. Don't use sylk and no zrytec . I read a ton of sways who had boys and used zrytec. I heard rephresh if u must use with clomid should be I think sooner then a day. Look at maple's sway she used clomid & rephresh had twin girls. Most people don't take zrytec. U r so dry u don't need zrytec trust me but u can use rephresh as back up. gL

Zyrtec does NOT sway blue. All those numbers mean is that the majority of people who were able to get pregnant while taking antihistamines were pretty darn fertile and prob. had good CM in spite of the Zyrtec and hubby had lots of healthy sperm. Some weren't much else to sway and others were just so fertile or less sensitive to the effect of the Zyrtec that they were able to overcome it easily. Statistical quirk.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you for your info GT77. I had a read of Maple's sway and it looks like she used sylk and antihistamine but dropped repHresh. What is it that repHresh does exactly? Maple also BD everyday for 5 days in the lead up to O.. now I'm thinking there would be NO hope of falling with all the things I had planned! I would really like to fall this month but I don't want to regret not doing everything I can to have my girl.. Did you take clomid GT77?

Just to reiterate my advice I would rather you guys didn't pore over others' sways to try and recreate them or use them as evidence that you need to do more or less for your own. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/33517-maternal-dominance-hypothesis-priviledged-daughter-hypothesis.html

I think it's ok for most people, to not get pg the first month on Clomid. So if you want to give it one month doing a strict sway just to feel like you left no stone unturned, that is something to think about. The Clomid may start to sway more strongly and you can then feel good about dropping sway tactics.

RepHresh lowers pH of everythign it comes into contact with including semen and CM.

[atomic sagebrush]

That makes sense Carmella. Has anyone fallen preg doing ALL the things I have planned? Or is it pretty certain that I will need to drop something next month (I've already decided to only use zyrtek as a rescue method only)?:think:

There is a small % of people who have gotten pg with super strict sways. But I would say most likely we will discuss what to drop next time through.

[carmella_marie]

Rephresh lowers ph.

[Flowergirl]

Okay great! Thanks ladies :)

Atomic, I'm still sticking to the original plan for this month. And all good, I just had a quick skim over Mapels key points and won't be adopting those changes anyway (who wouldn't want to read of a sway that resulted in not one but TWO pink bundles?!! Lol) :)

[greeneyes]

Um, can you continue to update this thread so I can stalk you? :D


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[greeneyes]

If you have a chart you can post for me to watch that would be AWESOME! Lol


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[Flowergirl]

Hehe sure thing greeneyes! I haven't been charting because I'm one to go over and beyond with things like that so have avoided it all together but I'll keep you posted :) I'm day 7 of my cycle today & will apply repHresh for the first time tonight & have our VERY FIRST attempt tomorrow eeeekkk! I'm classing it as bit of a practise go but still very surreal thinking the time has come! :) Where are you up to on your cycle?

[GT77]

I did clomid and for pregnant second month so agreed was happy I had it in my system. I'll follow u!!

[greeneyes]

I'm now on cd15. I think I am 2dpo. I had wicked lower back pain, cramping, o pain both sides, and ovulation bleeding Friday morning. I didn't get a pos opk until sat though...? I think my urine must have been too dilute or something. I have a cm dry up (not that there was really much to notice but now I have infertile cm I get post o) and I have the start of a thermal shift. Another attempt is planned for Monday night just in case. :) hope this mo is it for us!!


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[atomic sagebrush]

good luck! wow check out that temp rise!!!!!

[greeneyes]

Thanks. Trying to decide if I should keep or drop sat's temp. It's possible it was as high as it was due to swollen ovaries as inflammation can cause a temp rise. Either way I think I might have Oed Friday night or Saturday sometime. I think our timing was just right!

Flowergirl, I hope get your pos opk soon!! :D



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[Flowergirl]

Me too greeneyes! I read that you may have diluted your opk's by testing them in the urine for too long? That may be where I've gone wrong in the past?! I've been letting it sit in there until it seeps all the way up the test window and I've never had two lines come up. I'll try just a 3 second dip for now on.. So far no signs of ovulation though.

We had our first attempt yesterday though! I used repHresh and sylk but didn't end up using Zyrtec because I had zero cm. I don't imagine o will come in the next day so I'm anticipating our next attempt could be the one that matters.. It will be Valentines day too (cycle day 12, 6 days after last clomid pill)!

Good luck for your next attempt greeneyes! Sounds like your timing has been spot on which is exciting!!

[greeneyes]

We did another attempt last night but I think the first attempt four days before will be the one. I just wish I felt more confident about WHEN I OEd. I do wonder if I flooded or oversaturated my OPK. I tried it again and it didn't seem to change the results, but the test itself was much fainter then the one dipped with the 3 seconds. If nothing else, dipping it with less time seems to make the tests easier to read! I think we might make another 'just in case' attempt Valentines day as well. :) I'm worried about a false pos OPK and stuff others have experienced since my temps and opks don't line up just right.

Good luck to you! KUP for sure! :D

[Flowergirl]

So it's love day today which means attempt #2! I'm becoming such a "girl mum" :wink: that I didn't even pay attention to my diary and apply repHresh last night - oops! I got up at 5am this morning instead and used most the the tube so it will be about 15 hours before our attempt, not sure if that's enough time but having no signs of ovulation on its way so now I'm not sure if it will really matter. Maybe it will be the next time (day 16) that will count..

Really hope I do ovulate on 50mg clomid! No idea how long my cycle will be or when to expect ov which is a little disheartening but I'm trying not to put too much thought into it and go with the flow and just DTD every 4 days just incase.

Definitely have another 'just incase' attempt tonight greeneyes - Valentines just seems like the PERFECT day to make a baby girl :hug2: :XX:LOL x

[greeneyes]

Bump for stalking update lol. When do you think you might have ovulated?


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