TTC Pink March 2014

[Arimethia]

Anybody else TTC girls in March? Cycle buddies meet here!

[LilithWiser1979]

Me, me, me!!! I'm quitting my BCP after the next AF and watching with OPKs for my first attempt. AF is due on the 9th, so I'm hoping for a BFP in early April. I've gotten a BFP at 8 DPO with both boys, but I don't know if this is a "me" phenomenon, or something that just happens when I conceive a boy?

I've been exercising like a madwoman since January 31st and on LE since the last week of December. I'm also doing fiber supps, myoinositol, baby aspirin and cinnamon. Lost over 11 lbs so far!

So glad this thread was started. I'm all excited for our attempt :)

[stephk]

Hi girls i am going to join even though I said I probably dont want to conceive in March. The plan is just to BD every 4 days if we can and leave it to chance. Still not sure if I have ovulated, dont think I have, well according to the OPKs i have not but I am ditching those now and just leaving to chance. I will still check in here though and will be rooting for your all and hope you get your BFPs.

[laVieEnRose]

Me! Waiting for +OPK any days now !
Good luck to you all!

[dreamingofwin]

Did you get af Arimethia?? Still waiting here. Another bfn at 11dpo so expect ill be moving over here v soon! X

[Arimethia]

I've got the hallmark acne, spotting and cramping. I expect AF today or tomorrow, so yep! Trying again in March! I think we may sway a tad harder this month, drop the frequent release but pick exercise and Rephresh back up. I'm okay with a Christmas baby. :baby:

[dreamingofwin]

Boo! I just wish af would turn up now put me out of my misery! Im not uWed to cycles this long! They're usually 23 days!

I too am going to pick exercise back up. Hoping it doesn't raise t too much as it'll only be for 2 weeks. Dropping rephrseh though as heard atomic say its not worth the stress. Gonna be v strict too on le. I am on holiday now and have been trying soooo hard to stick to limits x

[girliedreamz]

I got my first bfn this morning at about 11dpo, so, like dreamingofwin, I think I’ll probably be moving over to this thread soon, too. Still holding out a small hope for Feb, but honestly it was my first month TTC, so I’m okay with a second shot in March. :) I think this time I’ll stick with Vitex and antihistamine. (Had a bad Clomid reaction last cycle.) And I do need to pick up the exercise and be more strict on LE, too! After being on vacation, I hurt my knee playing in the yard with the kids, so my run of great exercising has been busted for the past week. Must get back to the gym!

[dreamingofwin]

Officially in here now as cd1 today. Hoping its our lucky month xxxxx

[Arimethia]

Welcome, dreamingofwin!

This is what my sway was:
Vegetarian LE. I don't watch levels but I try to push breakfast back as far as possible and eat mostly carbs, low protein and low fat.
Consuming Equal and Crystal light
Folic Acid
Baby Aspirin every four days
Alcohol every night AF-O

Husband
Licorice Root AF-O
FR AF-Pos OPK
Briefs AF-Pos OPK

One attempt at +OPK

Are any of you guys switching up your sway? This will be our third month TTC, I'm thinking about adding Vitex as I think early spotting is cutting my LP short. I'm also temping this month to try to pinpoint O. Maybe we'll drop the FR? It definitely seem to lower volume-wise, it may be just too much. My husband jokes that maybe all this is killing off the blue sperm and all he makes is blue sperm. lol

[dreamingofwin]

Yeah am switching. Dropping rephresh sticking to vitex as i have an lp issue. Keeping saw palmetto and bought chitsosan.
Started exercising again today too after my back injury. Not doing it as intesnse though as can't get another injury or 3 weeks off work on the sick!
Sticking to 1 attempt at opk too x

[Mrs_Incredible]

7dpo but no signs, so joining for a chat! Xx

[Arimethia]

This will be our third month TTC and the hurry up and wait periods between AF and O and AF are getting kinda old. What do you guys do to bide the time?

[kitkat18]

Hey lovely ladies, I already have one December baby but right now I'm just keen to get preggers and get off le!! Just about to have my second attempt though on cycle day 19 and no ovulation signs... Didn't ovulate till cycle day 22 last month so hoping its coming soon. Not doing excersize or represh so can't drop them just doing fibre, anthistamine, one attempt, le diet fingers crossed march is our lucky month! Xxx

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[kitkat18]

I find the waiting really really hard! Retail therapy! Xx

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[bethwade]

My temp dropped again this morning so it looks like I will be joining too. Still not sure if I ovulated. I'll be back with info on what I'll be switching up this cycle (which will be our 4th...I got pg with both boys in 3 :-/ )!

[Marika]

Hi ladies!

I think I'm joining in too. Finally got my af (waiting for it to start again after m/c) this morning and will probably make our first attempt as soon as O turns up.

I have only been on LE-diet for 2 weeks but will still ttc in about 2 weeks. Atomic agreed to this sine I come off a loss (I am not sure why, if m/c in itself sways pink or if the mental state after a loss does?) but we are eager to get pregnant soon again.

I don't know if the diet will have had any effect at all, but I hope so. It was also a girl last time (no sway, just an "ooops"), so hopefully we are able to do it again.

Today I started angus castus (might delay o a bit, but I'll give it a try anyway) and will try my best to keep a strict diet these coming weeks. We are leaving for a vacation in the mountains and will stay with an other family but they eat almost only vegetarian food so thats really a big plus for me since I don't want to tell them about the swaying stuff. Only problem can be skipping breakfast without explanation and it will be pretty tough going skiing with empty stomach. But I'll do it somehow, at least push breakfast towards 10-11 (and stop eating early at night so hat I'll get at least 14-16 hrs of fast).

What should my husband think about now until ttc? When does he start with fr?? 7-10 days before ttc? (Over 35 and just had chromosomal defects with last baby so we do not wanna take any risks with abstaining).

Hot showers and lots of sauna - does it help or is it proven not to make any difference? I will use anthistamines a few days before ttc - should dh do that too?

A lot of questions, I know, but i'd be soooo grateful of anyone has any tiny tips or advice for us!

[LilithWiser1979]

Lots of us are giving up on FR, letting DH "take care of himself" as needed, or DTD every 4 days and making sure we only do one attempt at +OPK. Atomic says the one attempt is getting 75% pink results, so I've decided not to stress DH out about FR or CFR, especially since he's not at all cooperative about this sway!

March will be our first attempt, but I'm 35 in May, so I'm concerned that conception might take some time. Really hoping baby aspirin and myoinositol will help our first attempt be the only one needed:fx:

[girliedreamz]

Joining you ladies officially here. Got my Feb bfn at 14dpo today, so I’m thinking Feb was my trial run. :) Not sure if I’ll be TTC in March or waiting until April, though. I injured my knee jumping on the trampoline with the kids (so dumb), so I’ve been out from exercising for almost 2 weeks now. And my diet has had a lot of cheats in it this past 2 weeks, too. (Vacation then general 2ww freak outs. Lol!) So, we’ll see how things go, but I might just be a cheerleader this month.

[kitkat18]

Hi all yes lilithwiser1979 great advice that's what I am doing as my husband does not know I am trying to sway!! I'm35 too so a bit more vintage:)

Marika welcome!! Ask away!
Gearing up for my second attempt expecting pos opk any day now fingers crossed for a late November baby for me good luck to all xxxx

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[bethwade]

kitkat I totally had a retail therapy type of morning! lavender soap, relaxing spa yankee candle, pink undies, pink socks and minnie mouse jelly bellies :awe: I'm gonna pay for those jelly bellies later but they were so good! lol I feel a little better, but I'd rather have had a bfp :pinksperm:

[dreamingofwin]

Welcome to all!

Sorry for bfn and yey for bfn+opk!

I am writing this from my exercise bike at 8pm on a Sat night! Dedication or boring Haha! I am 33 in a few week so expect it could take a while although ds was 2 nd month ttc at 30. We're dropping abstain this month hubby quite fancies cfr. How many times are needed for that?

[lfc_sarah]

Hiya everyone. Currently waiting for ovulation using my sticks before having one attempt! :)


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[kitkat18]

Welcome lfcsarah. Bethwade sounds super girly !! I love it....both boys conceived 1st month for me but I was 28 then 30 and now I'm 35 so I should expect it to take longer
Dreamingofwin that's dedication!! Xx

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[lfc_sarah]

My period returned today after having my implant out. Relived to know everything is working again in that department! Means I didn't get pregnant in February though so definitely be trying again and calculating ovulation in March! :)


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[dreamingofwin]

Hello lfc Sarah. I see you are a fellow UK Lady. Not too many of us on here x

[bethwade]

CD1. Yaaaaaay.

I'm realizing my own decreased fertility. I'll be 34 in August and I have Sjogrens which dries my eyes and mouth out terribly, but I'm also dry evvverywhere. I had both boys before my SjS diagnosis and still had to use robitussan back then bc I was "somewhat" dry...I had no clue what I was in store for! :-/

All that said, AS has been amazing helping me with my diet and coaching. Last month I was taking muci every other day from end of AF thru a few days ago...can't believe we didn't get pg! Between muci and ALL the bd attempts every 3 days. Craaazy. Dh is EXHAUSTED. ;)

So this month I'm trying to figure out what the heck to do! I also have to take fish oil for SjS and eat an anti-inflammatory diet, but now with less healthy stuff thrown in the mix here and there. I'm so boy friendly it's going to be a true miracle if we can conceive a girl, lol!

[kitkat18]

Bethwade I feel the same! My dh does not know I am swaying so eating a little meat I totally feel like I won't be getting a DD but I still want to try! I had GD with DS 2 and he has been the sweetest most loveliest boy ever but really don't want a repeat of GD!! Really want to be happy with whatever we get xxxx

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[lfc_sarah]

Hello lfc Sarah. I see you are a fellow UK Lady. Not too many of us on here x

I am indeed! :) x


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[Mrs_Incredible]

I'm UK too :D x

[lyngostar]

I'm also UK. :)

[Arimethia]

Nice to see all the new folks here! Welcome!

I spent the weekend visiting family in San Fransisco and drinking good beer, that's the upside to not being pregnant yet right? Looking forward to this month. Special shout out to th UK ladies!

[lfc_sarah]

Hello everybody! :)

I had a little drink myself this last weekend visiting friends. I don't drink too much in general though, only really happens on special occasions!


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[stephk]

Another UK lady here :)

Good luck to all. I have thought about it and although not ideal to conceive this month, at 35 I just need to get on with it!!! I wont use OPKs until AF arrives (still havent returned to normal since coming off BCP 2 months ago...) will plough on with the BD every 4 days.

[Mrs_Incredible]

I might not be joining you after all, bfp in a frer today, however time will tell if it's a sticky! Will be here to cheer you on, tho I do hope I'm not back to ttc, had a loss in Feb so hoping this is it. Only 11 dpo just now xx

[laVieEnRose]

Hey gorgeous ladies,

Waiting for + OPKs. Feels like watching for the paint to dry lol.
It's our first month TTC pink and I have never used OPKS, I'm testing twice or three times a day! I guess the novelty will wear off soon ;-)

I keep thinking I must O soon as I have EWCM but no double line yet...I'm on CD15 though so getting a bit worried ...

I have been on LE diet for 5 weeks now, peppermint tea - that's about it. I'm really 'vintage' at 39 so don't want to compromise fertility too much. I was a bit too strict with LE and lost prob a bit too much weight so now I'm maintaining my weight and I'm a bit more relaxed with the diet.

Oh, I'm in the UK too by the way!

Good luck to us all! Xx

[maidentomother]

Congrats Mrs Incredible! :D All these BFPs, so exciting!

[Mrs_Incredible]

I'm vintage too at 38! Kinda like the times of the month I'm poas, feels productive!! X

[b'smommy]

Congrats Mrs. Incredible!!

I want to join as well, after a super crazy light bfp on Friday I started af saturday :(. I will be starting Round 2 of Clomid again today, just waiting to hear back from my doctor. Good luck to everyone this month.

[LilithWiser1979]

Exciting Mrs. Incredible! Way to lead us out with a BFP :) Hopefully it's just the first of many!

[lfc_sarah]

I might not be joining you after all, bfp in a frer today, however time will tell if it's a sticky! Will be here to cheer you on, tho I do hope I'm not back to ttc, had a loss in Feb so hoping this is it. Only 11 dpo just now xx

Congratulations!!


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[kitkat18]

Way to go Mrs incredible super happy for you!!! Sorry b's mummy sounds like a chemical? Super frustrating and upsetting ! La vie en rose its all good as Mrs incredible said at least you are doing something!
Gearing up for second attempt fingers crossed march is our month ladies!!
Stoked to hear I am not the only vintage on here and we are getting bfps too! Mrs incredible xxxxx

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[Mrs_Incredible]

Congrats Mrs. Incredible!!

I want to join as well, after a super crazy light bfp on Friday I started af saturday :(. I will be starting Round 2 of Clomid again today, just waiting to hear back from my doctor. Good luck to everyone this month.

Sorry to hear your af started, good luck with clomid and ttc x


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[Arimethia]

What CD is everyone on? I'm on CD5 third cycle TTC. I had to order more OPK test strips which I've never had to do before. I'll probably start testing CD11 or 12.

[dreamingofwin]

Morning!

Wow didn't realise we had so many UK ladies that's fab!

Congrats to bfp's!

So I forgot to exercise yesterday-how an u forget!! I realised at 930 but was too tired by then. Will have to make sure I remember later.

Been on the diet 9 weeks now and lost 12lbs. This month is dragging though. Only cd6. Keep having waves of panic that its going to take forever. I have a short lp and back at docs on thus for a gyne referral. Been in Oct for 21 day loads and had low prog so she said she'd refer me in March. Hope i don't need the app though xxxxx

[dreamingofwin]

*bloods*

Been tracking cycles for over a yr though. Started le in Oct but dropped it in Dec. Suppose its longer than 9 weeks on and off gen.

On cycle 2 ttc but did try in Nov last yr so sort of 2/3 x

[lfc_sarah]

I'm only on CD3, 1st cycle TTC. I have no idea when I ovulate yet after having the implant out. Good luck everyone!


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[laVieEnRose]

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I'm on Cd 16, just POAS and this is the result. Would you say it's positive or still a bit faint? Don't want to miss it either way!
Shall I retest tonight? Help!! ;-)

[stephk]

looks neg - very close though!

[lovinmyboys]

Hi all!
We got a +OPK on Saturday, March 1 so we DTD. Also had a +OPK on Sunday. We actually DTD on Sunday 2x as well but did the pull out method. DH did FR all month. I was not great on my diet but I did fast until 11am most days and drank lots of crystal light. Had a hard time swallowing the vitex and SP so I didn't take them frequently. I'm taking metformin for PCOS. Did zyrtec and baby asprin. DH took licorice root.

Good luck everyone!!!

[LilithWiser1979]

I think I'm going to trail this group in cycle days... CD 1 should be the 8th or 9th and that's when I'll quit BCP, so who knows when O will come after that. I've been on baby aspirin since I started and myoinositol since last week, so hopefully I'll get an egg that's ready to go!

I've been on LE for about 9 weeks and have only lost about 11.4 lbs. I have plenty to lose, so this has been disappointing, especially since I've been sticking to the lower levels of LE calories and working out an hour a day 6-7 days a week. I'm really hoping to drop another 5 lbs before our attempt, but I'm not counting on it :(

Hugs to b's mommy! So sorry about the false BFP. Maybe this next cycle will be a sticky pink bean for you.

[Arimethia]

Lilith, how many calories are you eating? I stalled on weight loss when I was eating 1400 so I upped to 1700-1800 when I was exercising and started losing again. Seems counterintuitive but sometimes works.

[LilithWiser1979]

1200 to 1500, Arimethia. Yeah, I wonder if I need to up it, but I'm SO afraid of gaining right before my attempt! I've seen so many opposites who have gained right before or in the TWW.

[dreamingofwin]

God this is dragging! This is worse than last cycles 2ww! I just so want to get pg its killing me! Doesnt help my friend had a new ikkle baby boy this morning setting my broodiness into orbit! Desperate to start opk but no point for another 4 days as only on cd6 x

[Mrs_Incredible]

Dreamingofwin ... Never too early to Poas lol!! X


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[laVieEnRose]

1200 to 1500, Arimethia. Yeah, I wonder if I need to up it, but I'm SO afraid of gaining right before my attempt! I've seen so many opposites who have gained right before or in the TWW.

Does this mean that it's in in the TWW that the gender is determined? I thought it would be 'decided' straight away by the winning sperm? Sorry I'm now confused ...

[LilithWiser1979]

I think that a XX embryo is more likely to implant if your blood sugar is low, and XY is more likely if it's even or high. So, if I think if you accidentally get an XY, but your blood sugar is low, then it's less likely to implant and there might not be a pregnancy.

I'm SUPER not into the "when does life begin" debate, and I figure if I've gone through all the trouble of swaying pre-TWW, I want the best environment for XX I've been trying for to develop :)

[ThinkPink2014]

Me! We decided to go for it. Going to start my opk testing tomorrow. :-)

[kitkat18]

Hey all lilithwiser I too have stalled at weight loss which I think is okay as I don't have alot too spare so atomic said sit tight just don't gain. I was naughty today and had one snack and a light breakfast had a full on networking day and just felt i needed it for energy! trying not to worry about it but I am very close to a pos opk finally!!! Cycle day 24 !! Ovulation just keeps getting more and more delayed, fingers crossed 2nd attempt here we come xxx

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[kitkat18]

Dreamingofwin I hear you!! So hoping this is a lucky month for all of us February was amazing and mainly first attempts!
Anyone dropping anything?
I'm keeping zyrtrc but will drop if I don't get pregnant this month xxx

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[dreamingofwin]

Im dropping rephresh this month keeping everything else x

[ThinkPink2014]

Nice to see other PCOS moms on this thread.

How's everyone doing today? I just started my OPK testing. It's kind of fun...sort of. :-)

[LilithWiser1979]

Hey all lilithwiser I too have stalled at weight loss which I think is okay as I don't have alot too spare so atomic said sit tight just don't gain. I was naughty today and had one snack and a light breakfast had a full on networking day and just felt i needed it for energy! trying not to worry about it but I am very close to a pos opk finally!!! Cycle day 24 !! Ovulation just keeps getting more and more delayed, fingers crossed 2nd attempt here we come xxx

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Yeah, I'd feel a lot better about it if I was like you and sitting at a healthy or low body weight. Unfortunately, I need to lose at least 5 lbs more to be in the "healthy weight" BMI range :(

I think I'm going to experiment with raising calories. I broke my last plateau by taking 2 days off from the gym and having 2 cheat meals, but I just can't bring myself to take time off the gym. I've been getting 7 days per week in, the last day I took off was February 20th because DS2 was so sick that I couldn't make it in. I've been going everyday just in case circumstances beyond my control mean I can't go in, so that way I don't start my obsessive Martha-stressing over it. I can just accept it as my day off and go with it.

[girliedreamz]

Geeze Louise, I’m still waiting for af over here from my Feb attempt. I’m two days late this month, but I’ve taken a total of 3 pregnancy tests, and all have come back negative. Like, not even a faint second line. So I’m pretty sure af is just taking her sweet time to torture me SO want to get this next cycle started already.

Anyone else get an af delay on Clomid? I took a half dose last cycle (had a bad reaction halfway through, so stopped). Wondering if that’s what’s delaying everything.

[kitkat18]

Lilithwiser good plan it sounded like it worked for arimethia! Its so hard not to worry over every detail isn't it!! Pos opk today hooray!!! 2nd attempt....girliedreamz that sucks you just want to know one way or the other still sounds promising xxxx

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[girliedreamz]

Good luck with the attempt, kitkat18! :fx:

[lfc_sarah]

Good luck Kitkat!


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[ThinkPink2014]

Best of luck, kitkat :-)

Still waiting for a positive OPK over yonder.

[dreamingofwin]

Ooh good luck! The the attemps begin!! What cd are you kitkat?

I've started loosing weight again this week so pleased about that. I had a day of more calories/fat and its strangely kicked it up a gear! At 13lbs loss now in 8 weeks!

Cd 8 today I'll start opks tomorrow. Hope o not delayed again like last month though its usually cd14 but was cd19! x

[kitkat18]

Thanks lovely ladies deed is done tmi I know!! Fingers crossed for all of us xxxx dreamingofwin well done with weight loss super news cycle day 24 up from 20 then 14 the month before le diet it was torture being that much longer....praying it won't be longer next month hopefully there won't be a next month:) xxxxx

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[ThinkPink2014]

What do you all do to relax? I'm trying to stay calm and have more fun this month. Had a small tiff w my DH yesterday which didn't help, but it's been ok otherwise. I've watched a couple of funny shows on TV to enjoy a laugh. :-D

[atomic sagebrush]

you guys, you don't NEED to try to stay calm or do anything to relax. You just need to avoid starting up big detail oriented projects and obsessing over swaying. I think y'all are putting too much emphasis on this calm/relax idea and missing the elephant in the room which is obsessing over swaying. Replacing obsessing over timing and pH levels with obsessing over "I must stay calm" - it's really the exact same thing, strugging for control over your universe.

[laVieEnRose]

And if I may add to that, I have been obsessing so much over OPK that I think I totally missed the 'slot' for this month....feeling quite upset with myself.
I tested yesterday but thought the test line was still a bit lighter than control and thought i would wait until today...Today it's even more faint and my CM is more creamy compared to last few days which suggests to me that its too late now...or isn't it? Shall we still BD or leave it till next month?
I can't believe it, I was so ready....well clearly not.... :-(

[ThinkPink2014]

Sorry! :-) I guess it helps me stay grounded to seek out some extra laughs and R & R to keep my spirits up. Def did not mean to spread incorrect info on the need for relaxation though. Eep!

[Mrs_Incredible]

LaVieEnRose how frustrating, I feel your pain,thought the same had happened to me this month,so much so I forced dh one morning and the poor fella just couldn't, too much pressure, luckily I got my dark opk that night. I was devastated all day, so I know how you feel. If you have missed the surge, I'd buy loads of opks and test more frequently especially as the line starts to get a bit more colour to it. Hugs xx


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[maidentomother]

And if I may add to that, I have been obsessing so much over OPK that I think I totally missed the 'slot' for this month....feeling quite upset with myself.
I tested yesterday but thought the test line was still a bit lighter than control and thought i would wait until today...Today it's even more faint and my CM is more creamy compared to last few days which suggests to me that its too late now...or isn't it? Shall we still BD or leave it till next month?
I can't believe it, I was so ready....well clearly not.... :-(

If you BD ASAP today you may very well still have a shot. Worth a try I say, especially with creamy CM.

[laVieEnRose]

Thank you Mrs_Incredible (but the way congrats on your BFP!!) and maidentomother.

Funny you should say that maidentomother....luckily, DH was home early today and he was very 'lucky' as when he arrived home, one son was packed to beavers, one son on Xbox and the baby playing with toys in his cot.
It wasn't romantic or terribly sexy but it did makes us giggle a lot to sneak quickly for a quickie lol. At least, there has been been one attempt this cycle which is better than none and made us feel young again :wink:
So :fingers:

I feel so blessed to be part of this wonderful community - girls you are so supportive thank you xx

[LilithWiser1979]

GL to all the ladies in the 2WW! I can't wait to join you :)

I am hopeless at this changing up routine to break a plateau! I succeeded at eating a few more calories yesterday, but today my DH finally convinced me to take a day off from the gym (I had gone 13 days in a row.) So, on my "day of rest," I got in half an hour of squatting and weeding my garden. Sigh. Going to up the calories again today and for a week and see if it helps.

Thanks for the reminder, atomic. Some of us Marthas are a bit hopeless in our micromanaging of our lives :)

[Arimethia]

We're dropping FR and the whitey tighties for DH but keeping Licorice Root.

I'm on a low fat, low protein, low cal, high carb vegetarian diet. I've been having nausea and mood swings so I had to start eating breakfast and a snack or two to keep from puking and or screaming at my family. LE was starting to wear on me pretty badly. Feeling better after switching that up. I'm at the point where I feel like having a girl would send me over the moon but I'll be excited to get pregnant whatever the sex. Vegetarian diets alone seem to sway girl according to a lot of studies and anecdotal evidence I've seen soo I feel pretty good about that.

I'm going to sew myself a cute skinny summer dress this month to try to jinx myself into getting pregnant this month. Lol

[Arimethia]

Haha! Atomic! I literally stress about being stressed too, so ridiculous! If you ladies want a place to organize relaxation I've found Happify.com to be really helpful. They give you exercises to think positive and relax and practice gratitude. It helps us Marthas learn not to stress.

[dreamingofwin]

Hi ladies

Lavienrose glad you got your attempt. Keep opk though incase a random positive comes up. Not unheard of!

Amrethia you have the exercise bug bad! I get like that too but sadly stopped the gym. I type from my exercise bike but don't get sweaty. I am still wary of my back as its twinging as I type...

I am so fed up. Did an opk tonight no reason as im only cd8 so not even a faint. I just feel like i needed something to motivate me. Even thin is waring thin ha excuse the pun!! I just want to start eating normally now.

I have been back to docs today and been referred to gyne. Hopefully they'll get to the bottom of my short lp. Hope i wont need the app though!! X

[kitkat18]

Thanks atomic your advice is always appreciated! Lavieenrose wow spontaneous dtd that's impressive! Maybe try bd every four days that can take away the stress of opks!! Best of luck Xxxx

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[bethwade]

AF is over so let the BD begin! :awe:

I'm walking the fine line trying to add things to increase my odds of getting pg, but not too much to sway blue. Overall I probably just need more SLEEP.

[ThinkPink2014]

Cd 12 of my OPK testing. I hope I don't have to do too many more days of testing b4 getting a positive bec DH is doing FR solo and he's not a fan of the daily self gratification lol I'm nursing my 14 month old, but have regular periods. No idea when (or if) I ovulate!

[laVieEnRose]

LillithWiser, just a thought: have you heard of high intensity interval cardio? Apparently your body gets used to exercise and doesn't respond that much no matter how long you cycle or run etc...but if you 'shock' your body, it will kick off your metabolism into burning more.. The big craze at the moment is called Tabata , a Japanese guy came up with this. Basically you have 4sets of high intensive exercise (like burpees or plank or jumps) of 20 seconds each and you rest 10 seconds in between and then repeat. During those 20 seconds you have to give 200%. The whole training lasts 4 minutes, 20 min with warm up and cool down. Sounds crazy but it is efficient. Apparently, your body is still working out hours after!. Any high intensity training might be worth looking into if you feel you have reached a plateau. Xx

[LilithWiser1979]

laVie, you must be psychic! I was a HUGE fan of tabata and HIIT, and, in fact, I conceived DS2 doing that and crossfitting. I would do three sets of tabata after a 3 minute jumprope warm-up. After tabata sit-up, push-ups and squats, I'd have worked out everything!

Sooooo... I'm trying to stay away from those. They DO rev up your metabolism, give you energy and give you a whole body, intense workout in 20 minutes or less, but I think that sways boy. I swear, I'd love to be a personal trainer for someone who wanted to sway blue. I could set them up with a completely kick-your-a$$ workout that only took 20 minutes a day, needed to be done 4 times a week, that built muscle, energized them, and made them dig deep to really bring out the "inner warrior" and channel that primal energy!

....aaaannd, that's why I have boys!

[Arimethia]

AF is over so let the BD begin! :awe:

I'm walking the fine line trying to add things to increase my odds of getting pg, but not too much to sway blue. Overall I probably just need more SLEEP.
Ha ha! Although apparently little sleep sways pink, good news with daylight savings taking an hour from us this weekend! Not looking forward to setting the clocks forward, blah!

[laVieEnRose]

LilithWiser: ah well that's also why I have 3 boys lol. Maybe try to be 'gentler' on yourself then ;-)

Good luck everyone else BDing and POAS xx

[essnce629]

Ha ha! Although apparently little sleep sways pink, good news with daylight savings taking an hour from us this weekend! Not looking forward to setting the clocks forward, blah!

I tried to get a lot more sleep last month as part of my sway even though I'm a night owl and can stay up till sunrise easily! For me, going to bed early keeps me from eating and keeps me off the computer and obsessing over swaying!!!! I have 3 best friends who both have 2 girls each and they all go to bed way earlier than me and never spend hours on the internet researching anything! When I TTC again I think I'm going to stay off these boards till I get to my TWW!

Both my boys were conceived when I was getting very little sleep.

[lfc_sarah]

I wasn't sleeping much at all when I conceived our boy either.


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[maidentomother]

Essnce, I don't know any girl moms who stay up late on the internet, either! In fact, I think it's possible that pink swayers seem more common than blue swayers bc we are over represented; we're much more likely to be online obsessing about what we don't have and what we want to achieve, whereas many girl moms might just assume it's out of their control and leave it at that.

Looks like I'm joining you ladies as AF just arrived. :( I'm really hoping Vitex will help me O earlier this cycle! It did seem to add a day or two to my LP, even after just 2 weeks on it, so that's great. I took my last dose of vitamin D yesterday and today I switched to methylfolate from folic acid. I've been taking myoinositol for nearly 2 week and will continue my 2g daily. I take aspirin regularly for my arthritis and antihistamines & pseudoephedrine for my allergies, and will take a few doses lf cranberry right around O. I will BD every 4 days so I can't possibly miss O.

I'm going to go back to my intermittent fasting (I thought it was delaying O but dropping it hasn't helped) and I'm going to try to start exercising daily, too. This is my last attempt for a while as if I don't succeed this month, I will not TTC for 3 months until I have a shot at a late March/early April baby. I also don't want a baby born in Summer, so basically I have to wait almost an entire year if I fail this month. :(

[jennibel]

Hi ladies, looks like I am joining you in March, AF arrived at 9dpo today, luteal phase defect to deal with now, arggh. CD1 for me....

[dreamingofwin]

Oh no :( mine is 6-9 days but vitex is helping a bit and it was 11 days last cycle.

Ladies what frequency are you doing? We abstained last year but are thinking of him releasing alone every 4 days and maybe doing our one attempt on 2 nd batch? I just wanna get preg though so not sure if it'll lower it too much x

[Marika]

Hi again!

Back from a week of skiing in the mountains. It has been such a great time but a bit of a struggle to do the LE-diet. I think I managed ok though. I skipped breakfast everyday (I just had a coffee and told our friends I was doing the popular intermittent fasting) and avoided snacking and meat as well as I could. One night I had to eat about 1 or 2 tbsp of minced meat in (the husband of the family made dinner and had me taste it) and another night I had about 40 grams of chicken. I hope it wont ruin anything, I calculated it in my app and never got over 55 grams of protein. I had white wine and sauna baths everyday and have had a sore throat all week - hope that's positive. ;-) I stood up on the scale once I got back home again and at least I didn't put on any weight, probably lost about a pund or two.

I have also been feeling quite moody - is that an effect of the diet?

I am now starting to take antihistamines and hopefully will O on friday or days around that. A positive thing about having had vacations is that I have been pretty relaxed about the sway plan and have not had any time to read about pink sways or worrying about it. I just kept the tracking of my foods and took the vitex, but no more thinking about it. I'll do my best to stay relaxed and not start obsessing during the coming week.

Good luck to those of you who are in the 2ww!!

[girliedreamz]

Still waiting for af... whistling, twiddling thumbs, so NOT stressing about her refusal to show up... I’m on cd 37 from Feb still. My usual cycles have been 30-31 days almost on the dot, so I’m guessing taking clomid this cycle just really screwed me up. Just hoping af decides to show up at *some* point. I’ve taken a gazillion preg tests, and all are so neg it’s not funny. So... just in a very annoying, who-knows-where-my-cycles-will-fall holding pattern right now.

And trying not to look at all the cute little girl pics my friends keep posting on facebook. Gah – it’s the worst place to look when you’re TTC.

[kitkat18]

Hi marika your trip sounds like fun and your relaxed attitude is great! Love the fasting excuse that diet is so popular my mil is even doing it!! Girliefreamz sorry honey that suckedy sucks! I would so go see a doctor that would drive me mad! In 2 ww here feeling chill about it all this week that's a first! Stopped my fitness pal I have the diet down pat now and it was becoming another obsession!!

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[kitkat18]

P.s so so tired from this diet anyone else feel the same?

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[dreamingofwin]

In a blind panic!!!

I have Ben doing so well. I've lost 21lbs in 6 months and have been strict le since Jan. My 2nd attempt is tomorrow and yesterday i lost control and ate nearly 2500cals no idea how much protein and most 90g fat. I am disgusted in myself. I of course have gained 2lbs this morning.

Do you thjbk i have ruined my chances? X

[kitkat18]

Nah! I would not worry as atomic says its the overall picture you are not doing that very often or even once a week! I too ate breakfast and a snack 1 day before our attempt I'm not sweating it! Just be good from now on that's my 2 cents for what it's worth good luck we will both be in 2 ww together xxx

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[laVieEnRose]

P.s so so tired from this diet anyone else feel the same?

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Yes, I so fancy breakfast and even more so a big juicy steak with chips!!

I'm also in the 2WW but I would be very surprised if I get a BFP on our first attempt so I can only dream of that steak for now lol

[LilithWiser1979]

CD 1 for me today! I swear, I've never been so happy to see AF. Countdown to my first (and hopefully only) attempt begins :)

dreamingofwin, you'll be fine. I'd chalk it up to a cheat day (which we're SUPPOSED to occasionally have) and just try to buckle down for the rest of the cycle. Relax, breathe, and be sure to skip breakfast! LOL!

I'm totally dreaming of my BFP victory meal, as well. Steak and chips sound amazing, but I'm specifically fantasizing about a Brazilian steakhouse near us that is an HE jackpot. Seriously, you pay an entrance fee and it's all you can eat. The servers walk around with gigantic slab of meat or bundles of sausages and you flag them down so they can slice some off for you. I think I ate the equivalent of two pounds of meat the last time I was there, in addition to these amazing cheesy butter rolls that were lighter than air, and a chocolate-cinnamon dessert mousse.

Yeah, I need to stop thinking about it. I'm drooling now.

[dreamingofwin]

Yeah for cd1!!

Gutted as the foods that I miss are banned in preg anyway! Pate, rare steak etc... So it'll be a looong time before i enjoy those again!

I am cd12 today. Expected a pos opk but still getting v faint lines. Has le put back anyone else's ov? Gutted as its my birthday on Sat and I fully expected yo have ov'd by then as we're booked into a hotel for the night with lots of forbidden foods add a full fried breakfast...god help me if I ov this weekend...hurry up please!!

I've struggled today. Missing food and generally fed up. Had moments of stopping this diet and just dtd daily but then I remember why I am doing it. I am truly fed up though x

[stephk]

I had 3000 calories on Saturday and Sunday if that makes anyone feel any better. You will not ruin anything by having one or two days a week where you eat more :)

Our last attempt was on Friday. I am fed up of BFNs and no AF so this was our last shot at a 2014 baby. Once I get past the point where I could be PG, and if I have no AF I am considering vitex or going to the docs to get something. I will be here cheering you all on though :)

[stephk]

Dreaming - enjoy your birthday and eat what you want, one day will not ruin anything x

[stephk]

Another BFN and still no AF :( I feel like my body is taunting me. Last week I had EWCM from weds- sat and cramping like AF from thur- sun so we got an attempt in on Friday just in case. Our last attempt for a while I need a break. Because now there's still 2 weeks worth of hope and when these last hopes are dashed at least there won't be any other chance I could be PG which leaves me free to try to do something about the lack of AF. Who would have thought the day would come when we wanted it to come!!

[kitkat18]

Hey dreamingforwin me too!! I was cycle day 14 -17 before le diet now ov cycle day 22 and 25 atomic said this was normal maternal condotion declining etc deft. Noticed less ewm.
I hear you stephk and dreamingofwin I too am fed up so so tired and weak at the moment pathetic!! Atomic has told me to up my fat intake which I am gladly doing praying for a bfp this month!! Has anyone given themselves a cut off date? I am not doing excersize or refresh or vitex so can't even drop those things! Im thinking maybe 6mths max I think that's way long enough on this diet but we will see Hugs to all xxxx

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[dreamingofwin]

Glad to hear that. Its crap as I want my pos opk now! I only have creamy cm too. So nervous about my attempt/ov this weekend but want to enjoy it so tough! I know if I get a boy id blame it on that though...

Not thought about only staying on it so long to be honest. My mum is already concerned and called me a pencil this weekend. If only she knew!

I may stop depending on what comes back from gyne regarding my short lp. Also my son will be 2 yrs 10 months if wewhen its born get pg this cycle. I think once it gets to him being 3yrs plus ill get desperate x

[stephk]

Gosh I hadnt thought of a cut off either but you make a good point. I have been on the diet for over 4 months now. I was an exerciser anyway but stepped up to 6 days a week since I came back to work at the beginning of october. I am trying my best to maintain my weight and not lose any more, especially now we are taking a break from TTC for 6-ish weeks. I love exercise and am happy to continue with that. Also the way I do the diet is perfectly acceptable and I could easily continue. I dont do anything else so cant drop anything. In 2 weeks time if no AF and no BFP then I am thinking of trying vitex to bring on a period and will also go to the doctor to see if they can give me anything.

I fully blame this on BCP and completely regret going back on it after DS was born :( I wont ever be going back on it again thats for sure!

dreaming - honestly if you have been good on the diet for ages, one weekend off is not going to get you a boy but worrying about it will (easier said than done I know!!) - I cheat every weekend and sometimes yes I do think if I was to O on a sunday night or monday morning after all the eating, what would happen but then I would be so annoyed at myself if I didnt eat nicely at the weekend and no O so I would rather just eat. Also - the cheat might actually bring on O which is a good thing. Please enjoy your birthday, you deserve it and I am sure atomic would order you to cheat if she knew ;)

totally with you on the age gap, and it doesnt help that my DH keeps going on about it either, we are not getting any yonger, DS is going to be too much older than the next baby blah blah blah shut up!

[LilithWiser1979]

stephk, what CD are you on?

Sometimes I wonder about the testing and how it relates to gender. With both boys, I got a faint BFP on 8DPO, and I've talked to lots of ladies who have gotten their BFPs with girls much closer to AF's due date, so I tend to wonder if gender has anything to do with when you get your BFP? Maybe this is me being crazy. I just know that I won't believe a BFN until a couple of days past when AF is due, even though I bought some super sensitive IC's that are FRER equivalents.

[dreamingofwin]

No bfp until 14dpo with my boy so not sure I believe that x

[stephk]

I just went to my calendar to count and today is CD 60 :( feels like 600 though...

[LilithWiser1979]

Vitex brought on my AF really fast last time I took it, so maybe that's not a bad route for you, stephk. CD 60 sucks!!!

[stephk]

Thank you - yes as soon as I know there's no chance I could be PG I'll be straight to holland and Barrett. We BD on Friday so I guess in 2 weeks if no BFP I can get on with it. It's such a slim chance but a chance nonetheless.

I have heard of longer CDs which scares me hence we stopped trying so I can sort it out.

[dreamingofwin]

I bought my last vitex from H&B butnow they've changed there dosage to only 100mg so id have had to take 10 tablets a day or 20!!! So instead I bought 1000mg from ebay and they came v fast x

[girliedreamz]

Finally af came today1 I’ve never been so happy to see it. Lol! 10 days late... talk about a 2ww. Anyway, finally on CD1! Yay! We’ll see how things go, but I may wait until next cycle to TTC again. Waiting (and waiting...and waiting...) for af put my stress level a little higher than I’d have liked. But I did get back on the exercise train today with a long walk with ds#3 in his stroller. I’m exhausted now! (always more tired this time of month anyway as I’m slightly anemic) But a good exhausted. :)

[momto4boyz]

Can I join in here? I am 13 DPO, waiting for AF to show, been super crampy. I never been so anxious for AF to show up before lol

[stephk]

We should rename this thread "AF please hurry up and put us out of our misery" lol ;)

[dreamingofwin]

+opk this morning! Almost went on last nights near + glad we waited now! Hubby is just helping himself then down to business!! X

[kitkat18]

Good luck dreamingofwin xx

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[kitkat18]

Fixed march is for us xx

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[dreamingofwin]

Hope we haven't killed all his swimmers as our attempt was only 30mins after his release on his own!

Hope for ov tomorrow add then onto the wait! Just relieved I can relax and stuff my face on my bday weekend :)

[stephk]

yay good luck dreaming!!!

[kitkat18]

Have a fabulous birthday dreaming!

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[Marika]

Hope we haven't killed all his swimmers as our attempt was only 30mins after his release on his own!

Hope for ov tomorrow add then onto the wait! Just relieved I can relax and stuff my face on my bday weekend :)

Good luck to you!! Fingers crossed!!

We will do our first attempt tonight as well! :-) Waiting for DH who is in the sauna and taking hot shower right now ;-) Feeling a bit nervous about not having been on the diet for long enough (only 4 weeks) but we'll give it a try and if it doesn't work this time, I'll have more time on diet but not being as close to m/c as now. (In case that is swaying we wanna get first egg possible.)

[girliedreamz]

Good luck, dreamingofwin and hope you have a great birthday!

Fingers crossed for you Marika!

[essnce629]

Finally af came today1 I’ve never been so happy to see it. Lol! 10 days late... talk about a 2ww. Anyway, finally on CD1! Yay! We’ll see how things go, but I may wait until next cycle to TTC again. Waiting (and waiting...and waiting...) for af put my stress level a little higher than I’d have liked. But I did get back on the exercise train today with a long walk with ds#3 in his stroller. I’m exhausted now! (always more tired this time of month anyway as I’m slightly anemic) But a good exhausted. :)

YAY for AF finally arriving!!!!! :running:

And good luck dreamingofwin!!!

[kitkat18]

Good luck marika!! Girliedreamz fixed for your 2nd attempt xxx

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[kitkat18]

5dpo and really tired but pretty sure that's the diet!! Also so antisocial on this diet anyone feeling like that? Just cancelled all my plans so I can chill with my sweet little 4yr old man tomorrow xxx

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[stephk]

hi kitkat

I have been known to decline invites so that I dont have to face the (non LE friendly) food - not very often because I do cheat every weekend but sometimes I feel I need to be good and you cant do that too well in front of others. Particularly as I have lost so much weight, people are constantly commenting and then everything you eat is scrutinised. So yes, laziness too but also its easier to stick to the diet if at home.

[Marika]

Attempt accomplished :wink: Poor husband almost didn't make it due to all pressure about ttc. He also have had to fr on his own last 8 days and as late as 12 hours before ttc so he's kind of relieved he can take a break for a while now.

Yesterday and last night I had no CM at all, I was super dry. This morning I had a small bleeding which I have never had around O before. Also had ewcm but not as it usually is, but like one big really rubbery blob. Sorry if TMI (again)! I don't know if it is the Vitex, antihistamines or any of the other things that I have done for swaing, but somethings at least different from what it usually is.

Am I considered to be in the 2 ww now? Don't know if egg has released yet, but he one and only attempt is done and we will now wait to bd again for at least 4-5 days.

[Marika]

5dpo and really tired but pretty sure that's the diet!! Also so antisocial on this diet anyone feeling like that? Just cancelled all my plans so I can chill with my sweet little 4yr old man tomorrow xxx

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I have been feeling quite low for the last two weeks, not sure if it's the diet, but I don't have my usual temper/mindset anymore. We were on vacation with friends and it was a great time, but I really had to make an effort to stay social and put a happy smile on. When we left back home I felt kind of relieved.

[dreamingofwin]

Marika I would say +opk +48 hours until you are classed as ov day. So 72hrs until 1dpo.
If you went on an almost positive. I almost went on my almost positive Mon night but waited. Last night is was super super dark and I have still not ov'd I expect a temp rise tomorow so going off that thats how id calculate it.

Thanks for all the bday wishes ladies

Good luck to whoever is attempting soon xxx

[Marika]

Marika I would say +opk +48 hours until you are classed as ov day. So 72hrs until 1dpo.
If you went on an almost positive. I almost went on my almost positive Mon night but waited. Last night is was super super dark and I have still not ov'd I expect a temp rise tomorow so going off that thats how id calculate it.

Thanks for all the bday wishes ladies

Good luck to whoever is attempting soon xxx

Happy birthday to you!

I got a clearly positive opk 2 hours after the first one (when I didn't know if to wait or go ahead). Second opk showed a stronger test line than control line so there was no doubt anymore. We db after second test when our sons finally got to bed.

If only going by the calendar I should O tomorrow, but I thought we better bd in case the vitex and other swaying stuff would make me O earlier.

Hope you O any time soon now! Good luck to you!

[Marika]

Oh, another question: should I stop taking antihistamines now or continue for another day? Took last one yesterday afternoon at around 5 pm. Was super dry until this morning, but now have some ewcm.

Would prefer not to take any since it makes me sooo tired.

[SamS_TTCPink]

Happy Birthday dreamingofwin! :celebrate:

[sweetdream]

I Take An antihistamine in the fertile window if i've got EWMC so I would say yes.

Wich antihistamine do you use? Cetrizine isn't the sedating kind. I get tired from the sedative group but not the cetrizine.

[Marika]

I Take An antihistamine in the fertile window if i've got EWMC so I would say yes.

Wich antihistamine do you use? Cetrizine isn't the sedating kind. I get tired from the sedative group but not the cetrizine.

It is Cetrizine I am using. Unfortunately it makes me sleepy and I have been struggling to keep my head clear during the morning and until noon.

Well, I can absolutely have one this afternoon too. At this point I'll do whatever to have a good sway...

[dreamingofwin]

I didn't ovulate! Gutted. No temp rise this morning. It must be today as my v dark opk was 48hrs ago!!

Bothered now as i pigged out a bit yesterday and I've gained this morning. Right on ov just perfect! :(

[kitkat18]

Don't stress dreamingofwin! Enjoy your birthday xxx

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[kitkat18]

6dpo and symptom spotting already totally annoyed at myself!!

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[dreamingofwin]

You've got to do it. Don't worry we all do!! Good luck x

[stephk]

dreaming - maybe your body has a slight delay in responding to the progesterone? either way though you have been good for ages, i am sure a little extra food right at O isnt going to make a big difference.c

Enjoy your birthday weekend! :)

[sweetdream]

I think you have a temp raise tomorrow dreaming!

[lfc_sarah]

Is this a positive OPK would you say? http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/15/tuze7ezy.jpg


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[dreamingofwin]

Very nearly id say. Mine was like this Monday and I held off. By Tue it was undoubtable and didn't need a question of 'is this' by Tue night it was blatently darker than the test line. Id test again tomorrow x

[Marika]

Is this a positive OPK would you say? http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/15/tuze7ezy.jpg


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I had one like that (and I considered it almost positive) on wednesday at 4 pm. Took another test 3 or 4 hours later and it was super positive, no doubt any longer. The day after it was fainter again, so it might be just hours between that and a 100% positive test.

[momto4boyz]

CD1 Finally!!

[momto4boyz]

I would say that OPK is super super close. I would test twice a day to be sure

[girliedreamz]

One pig-out isn't going to make all the difference, dreaming. I'd say no worries! I always think of the contestants on Survivor... they basically eat an extreme version of the LE with all that rice. Sometimes they get those rewards where they ate an entire pizza or a whole chicken, but in the long run, it never make much difference to their overall health/weight/energy, right? I figure the LE diet works the same way. Overall, we're putting ourselves in a low-nutrient state, so one little surge of nutrients now and then isn't going to make a huge difference.

[girliedreamz]

6dpo and symptom spotting already totally annoyed at myself!!

Lol! There's no way to avoid that, is there? I'd so be doing the same thing.

[stephk]

Sarah - looks v close - am so jealous I never got close to that! Tomorrow may be your day :)

[lfc_sarah]

Very nearly id say. Mine was like this Monday and I held off. By Tue it was undoubtable and didn't need a question of 'is this' by Tue night it was blatently darker than the test line. Id test again tomorrow x

Thank you! I will do that xxx


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[lfc_sarah]

I would say that OPK is super super close. I would test twice a day to be sure

I started doing that, the line was a lot darker later on in the day :) xxx


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[lfc_sarah]

Sarah - looks v close - am so jealous I never got close to that! Tomorrow may be your day :)

Thank you! I will hold out until tomorrow then and see how the lines are! :) xxx


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[stephk]

Momto4 I am so jealous!!!! Whoever thought I or anyone else would say that lol

[momto4boyz]

Momto4 I am so jealous!!!! Whoever thought I or anyone else would say that lol

I know. Hubby was asking why I was so smily today LOL Who would of though b/c of AF :running:

[Flowergirl]

Hi ladies,

Been having a bit of a sticky-beak to see how you're all going - hopefully we hear of some BFP's soon!

I'm on CD 10 of my 2nd cycle TTC. Last cycle I was on 50mg clomid, this cycle my Doctor upped it to 100mg to help me ovulate and attempt to normalise my long cycles. We're BD'ing every 4 days because I find it really difficult to pinpoint ovulation.

I'm really hoping this is our month, I'm longing to be pregnant and have been on the LE diet since October 2013 and finding it hard to maintain my weight (my BMI is now 18 so trying not to lose any more but also trying not to gain!). I've just started to get a really sore throat, have dizzy spells and feel run down, I think I might be getting sick. I'm not taking anything to help the symptoms just incase I take the wrong thing! Just hoping feeling this dreadful is helpful for my pink sway which I think I've read before? Anything for pink! Lol

[dreamingofwin]

Temp rise!! Yey! Officially in the 2ww now!

Yes I've heard if you're ill it sways. Gutted as I was sooo poorly over last cycle but didn't get pg. Oh well hopefully our lucky month.

Hopefully a lot of peoples lucky month xxxxx

[lfc_sarah]

Hi ladies,

Been having a bit of a sticky-beak to see how you're all going - hopefully we hear of some BFP's soon!

I'm on CD 10 of my 2nd cycle TTC. Last cycle I was on 50mg clomid, this cycle my Doctor upped it to 100mg to help me ovulate and attempt to normalise my long cycles. We're BD'ing every 4 days because I find it really difficult to pinpoint ovulation.

I'm really hoping this is our month, I'm longing to be pregnant and have been on the LE diet since October 2013 and finding it hard to maintain my weight (my BMI is now 18 so trying not to lose any more but also trying not to gain!). I've just started to get a really sore throat, have dizzy spells and feel run down, I think I might be getting sick. I'm not taking anything to help the symptoms just incase I take the wrong thing! Just hoping feeling this dreadful is helpful for my pink sway which I think I've read before? Anything for pink! Lol

I've heard about illness swaying too! Good luck! xxx


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[lfc_sarah]

Temp rise!! Yey! Officially in the 2ww now!

Yes I've heard if you're ill it sways. Gutted as I was sooo poorly over last cycle but didn't get pg. Oh well hopefully our lucky month.

Hopefully a lot of peoples lucky month xxxxx

Good luck!! xxx


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[lfc_sarah]

I'm hoping my OPK stick show an even darker line today! Fingers crossed! :)


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[maidentomother]

One day of indulgence doesn't ruin a sway. Happy bday dreaming and FX for a big temp spike today.

Sarah, I agree that OPK is 90% positive but I have used those same strips and never got close to that dark, so like stephk, I'm jealous!

I'm on CD8 and yesterday evening I started having intense O pain on my left side! I plan to start my BD every 4 days today, as according to Dr. Jonas (I am rolling my eyes at myself), tomorrow night is when I should conceive a girl. I'm spotting with no CM so I'll be shocked if I actually O so early but it has happened before, plus the Vitex could be responsible.

Good luck with your first attempt Marika, I hope the TWW goes quickly for you. Same for you Sarah as you must be planning to attempt soon as well. Anyone else attempting or expecting to O soon? Of course I've probably jinxed myself and will O even later this month...ughh, so annoyed with delayed O!

Flowergirl, I hope the higher dose of clomid does the trick. What CDs did you take it? I believe illness definitely sways pink and I think being sick can improve your chances of conception, if there is any immune or compatibility issue. Fx for you!

[TreasuresMama]

hi ladies, just started my 2WW last night... had a tummy bug for 2 days before predicted O so definitely extremely LE diet for a few days and just getting back to normal appetite last night which was also O day; we did single attempt on Thursday night (OPK test line was as dark as control line) after a release in afternoon to clear out DH's system (missed release day before because I was nearly dead from tummy bug) and by last night I'd dried up again so think our attempt was just before O... hope that plus the low-dose aspirin and LE diet does the trick...

DH's last 4 kids have all been boys (2 with ex 28 & 26 years ago and our 2 in 2011 and 2013) so I'm working against his nature I think :think:

now we wait... first to confirm pregnancy.... then to find out gender

[laVieEnRose]

Hope you are enjoying your bday weekend dreaming!
Sarah, mine looked like that but never went any darker - next day it was fainter (is that even a correct word?). I had a massive panic as I thought I'd totally screw up so we did DTD in a hurry... Hopefully this was good enough. Fx
Hopefully, your line got darker and there's been no doubt with your +. Good luck!

Kitkat, I'm too symptom spotting... I'm sure half of it is created by my crazy mind lol! I'm on cd27 so should know for sure in a few days...

Just realised I was sick and unwell the day before so maybe, maybe.....

Good luck ladies either waiting for O or in their 2WW xxx

[lfc_sarah]

Sarah, mine looked like that but never went any darker - next day it was fainter (is that even a correct word?). I had a massive panic as I thought I'd totally screw up so we did DTD in a hurry... Hopefully this was good enough. Fx
Hopefully, your line got darker and there's been no doubt with your +. Good luck!



This is exactly what happened with me! Argh!


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[laVieEnRose]

Oh no! How annoying!! I know how you feel! I was in a right panic and so cross with myself...I posted on 3 different threads to ask what to do and I was advised to BD ASAP if possible which we did, I thought at least I would still have had one attempt this month and wouldn't feel like it was wasted...

Hope this helps...

If you are not in a hurry, then at least you will have been on the le diet a few weeks longer...

Big hugsxx

[lfc_sarah]

Thank you! We did BD so hopefully I will still catch it. Not in a major hurry as it's our first month trying so another couple of weeks on the diet if it doesn't work won't be too terrible xxx


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[kitkat18]

Welcome treasures mama!! Quick question do you all count ovulation from day after your strongest opk I usually get two ? I'm 8dpo and symptom spotting big time!! Spent half the day sure I was pregnant the other half so sure AF was on her way good luck everyone xxxx

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[kitkat18]

Being sick does sway pink good luck xx

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[maidentomother]

Treasures, good luck! Fx for you.

Sarah, how frustrating with the OPKs. I do think it's good you attempted. In the past I've only regretted NOT attempting.

kitkat, I O 12-24 hours after my darkest OPK.

I had a big temp drop this morning and Watety CM since yesterday, all signs of O happening much sooner this month, fx! I wish I'd gone on Vitex back in November.

[dreamingofwin]

Well I have pigged out royally this weekend and still going...hehe!

I ov'd 2 days after my darkest opk this month so id calculate it like that. I am 3dpo and already symptom spotting argh! Just so want to be pregnant.

Good luck to all the ladies waiting for ov and in the horrendous 2ww x

[kitkat18]

I'm glad you had a fun birthday weekend dreaming I usually calculate ovulation day after peak ewcm which is two days after strongest opk so that puts me back a day to 8dpo today rats!!!! X

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[Arimethia]

Well my husband and I had an attempt Monday and then I got a positive OPK on Tuesday so we attempted then too since he had inadvertently done FR over the weekend. I figure we've been doing a crap ton to sway anyway, I'm not going to freak out about the double attempt. I confirmed ovulation with a rise in temp on Thursday so it's 2WW time. I've been focusing on other stuff going on that we just weren't as organized about everything this time around.

I did suddenly develop an aversion to coffee on Tuesday and despite that being too early for anything my friends and family are already speculating that I'm pregnant since I'm a coffee obsessed addict. Having gone two months with BFN's I'm just not as optimistic. Plus the DAY after our first attempt? Unlikely I'm already having pregnancy symptoms. It got really uncomfortable when my MIL asked if I could be pregnant and I said it was too early to tell and she asked why not. Uhhh, I am not going into my cycle days and when I'm having sex with your son, lol.

[Flowergirl]

One day of indulgence doesn't ruin a sway. Happy bday dreaming and FX for a big temp spike today.

Sarah, I agree that OPK is 90% positive but I have used those same strips and never got close to that dark, so like stephk, I'm jealous!

I'm on CD8 and yesterday evening I started having intense O pain on my left side! I plan to start my BD every 4 days today, as according to Dr. Jonas (I am rolling my eyes at myself), tomorrow night is when I should conceive a girl. I'm spotting with no CM so I'll be shocked if I actually O so early but it has happened before, plus the Vitex could be responsible.

Good luck with your first attempt Marika, I hope the TWW goes quickly for you. Same for you Sarah as you must be planning to attempt soon as well. Anyone else attempting or expecting to O soon? Of course I've probably jinxed myself and will O even later this month...ughh, so annoyed with delayed O!

Flowergirl, I hope the higher dose of clomid does the trick. What CDs did you take it? I believe illness definitely sways pink and I think being sick can improve your chances of conception, if there is any immune or compatibility issue. Fx for you!

Me too Maiden. Really hoping this is our cycle. I took clomid days 3 - 7 and am CD 12 today. I had a temp dip and some ferning this morning and we just had our next attempt (tmi!) so praying this was "the one"!! We'll try again CD 16 or even 15 to up chances of conception a little more (I read your query re:this - thank you, was helpful!). We only used sylk today and dropped all the other things so we'll see if that works! I'm feeling oddly serene and relaxed today, being a preschool day for the boys helps with that for sure! Lol. Not feeling as unwell with a sore throat or anything today though so didn't get too sick but definitely more run down then I would normally be.

Good luck with your next attempt! FX there's lots and lots of pink dust floating around for us all xxx

[Flowergirl]

Being sick does sway pink good luck xx

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Thank Kitkat! I've getting better rather than sicker which for the first time in my life is a bit of a bummer!!! Lol

[Flowergirl]

You never know Arimenthia! That could be your first sign!!! If I was off coffee I'd definitely be suspicious - I can't live without my morning coffee!

[Flowergirl]

Well I have pigged out royally this weekend and still going...hehe!

I ov'd 2 days after my darkest opk this month so id calculate it like that. I am 3dpo and already symptom spotting argh! Just so want to be pregnant.

Good luck to all the ladies waiting for ov and in the horrendous 2ww x

I think it's impossible not to symptom spot when all you want in your heart is to be pregnant. I did it last month too, it's torture! Hope you enjoyed your feasts dreaming, I must admit I'm looking forward to PIGGING out almost as much as being pregnant! ;)

[kitkat18]

Congrats on your attempts arimethia and flower girl!! I would not worry about dropping a few things no sway is perfect and you have zero shot at getting your DG if you don't get pregnant!! Xxxx still in no mans land waiting for either BFP or AF

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[maidentomother]

Flowergirl, sounds like your timing is excellent given when you took the clomid. Fx you catch the egg the moment it releases.


Arimethia, I also think the coffee aversion could be a sign...maybe not of pregnancy, but of really strong O that is very likely to lead to pregnancy. I know how you feel though, after 2 months of BFN. It really wears you down.

[dreamingofwin]

Let the symptom spotting commence!

I have tender boobs. I never have tender boobs. Started yesterday. I don't think its pregnancy related as I NEVER had tender ones with my son in pregnancy so I think its all in my head haha x

[stephk]

Kitkat I am with you in no mans land!! It takes symptom spotting to a whole new level!!!

[b'smommy]

Hi Ladies! Joining back in, should be 1 DPO today. I believe I got a false positive CD 10 & 11 on clomid and got my real positive this past sat on CD 15 (all with clearblue digitals). Ultrasound on CD 11 revealed by the size of the 3 follicles it would be approx. sat. FX!!

Any BFP's?

I'm with everyone on the pigging out, this is my 5th month on diet and I can't wait!!!

[kitkat18]

Hey guys I'm out:( so bring on a Xmas baby for me!! hoping to hear some BFPs from my pink ladies xxx

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[Marika]

Hey guys I'm out:( so bring on a Xmas baby for me!! hoping to hear some BFPs from my pink ladies xxx

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So sorry to hear you're out :-( Fingers crossed for your christmas baby!!

[kitkat18]

Thanks marika good luck to you x

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[stephk]

Sorry to hear you are out - hope you get your christmas baby x

[laVieEnRose]

I'm out too - kitkat let's hope for our Xmas pink baby
Good luck to everyone else still waiting this month xxx

[Arimethia]

kitkat18, lavienrose, such a bummer! :(

Hoping next month is your month!

[girliedreamz]

Sorry to hear that ladies! :( But I can think of no better Christmas present.

[Arimethia]

I've had a cup of coffee the last two days because it's the only caffeine we have in the house and I am addicted but it is STILL grossing me out. I need to get to the store and get some black tea and rice or soy milk for tea lattes. This is way bizarre, I had the same aversion with my first but well after I found out I was pregnant. But yeah, coffee is just making my stomach turn.

I'm on CD20, according to my ovulation this month I expect it to be a 28 day cycle so my period should be due next Thursday or so. I think my last two months of BFN's cured me of my POAS addiction. :rolleyes: We'll see if my PMS drama self feels the same way. HA!

[essnce629]

Good luck Arimethia! Sounds promising!

I also had a coffee aversion during my last pregnancy. I didn't drink coffee at all back then, but when DH would make it I would have to go in another room and close the door. I remember asking DH to start making his coffee in the bathroom! He probably thought I was nuts LOL!

[dreamingofwin]

Sorry to the ladies who are out.

What dpo is everyone else? Still have tender breasts here which is strange as not a pg symptom for me. Loads of cm but that's it for now.

I am 5dpo today. My temp dropped this am, hoping it rises tomoz otherwise it'll be a REALLY short lp this month. I've had 6 day ones before though.

I was hoping to avoid an Xmas/new yr baby. I am having mixed feelings about ttc now as the prospect comes nearer. I don't want to miss a month but I also wouldn't like a baby with an Xmas bday x

[Flowergirl]

Flowergirl, sounds like your timing is excellent given when you took the clomid. Fx you catch the egg the moment it releases.


Arimethia, I also think the coffee aversion could be a sign...maybe not of pregnancy, but of really strong O that is very likely to lead to pregnancy. I know how you feel though, after 2 months of BFN. It really wears you down.

I hope you're right maiden! My temp went up the next day and I've had bloating since. Guessing that would make me 2 DPO? I'm not sure how to pinpoint ovulation!

Hugs to those ladies who are out for this month and best wishes to those still in the 2WW! Xxx

[Flowergirl]

I'm unsure as to what to do next month too dreaming. My DS#1 is a January bun and it's a pretty busy time of year, not sure I'd be keen on another baby having a birthday at that time of year.. I wonder if skipping a month on clomid us a good idea though? Hmm. Hoping & praying we'll see a BFP this month so don't have to think or worry about next! That would be amazing :) xx

[Flowergirl]

I'm feeling much the same dreaming. We already have a January baby so not ideal to another one at that busy Christmas/New Years time of year. Not sure if skipping a month on clomid is ideal though? Hmmm.. Still hoping and praying this was our month so we don't have to think about it worry about next! That would be amazing :) x

[kitkat18]

Hey guys just thought I'd pipe up

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[kitkat18]

Oops!; I was going to say I have a Xmas baby Dec 15th and its actually quite lovely though I get really mad if anyone brings him presents wrapped in Xmas paper! Kind of crazy to go for another one then but for me living in new Zealand jan/feb are our peak hot months so none of the next three months are ideal right now I just want a baby :) xxxx

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[dreamingofwin]

I have a Feb baby and its so expensive.

Id happily take Dec 15th. Its the last few weeks id not like.

Temp went up again this am!! X

[lfc_sarah]

I'm not too bothered about a December baby if it comes about, my husband is the 20th December so an expensive month for us anyway!

Sorry for all of you who are already out this month xxx


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[stephk]

ARimethia - sounds really promising, fingers crossed!!

dreaming and flowergirl - I am totally with you, so torn between trying and not because of the xmas birthday. Anyway have to take medical action now to bring on AF so i guess the choice is taken away.

dreaming - that temp dip and spike again sounds promising, implantation maybe?

[dreamingofwin]

I did think that and tested this morning at 6dpo Haha!

I did get an implantation dip with my son but it was at 11dpo so thinking 5dpo is a bit too early add down to something else.

My boobs still ache though. Everyday since 3dpo x

[Marika]

I did think that and tested this morning at 6dpo Haha!

I did get an implantation dip with my son but it was at 11dpo so thinking 5dpo is a bit too early add down to something else.

My boobs still ache though. Everyday since 3dpo x

Sounds great your temp went up! I am really new to the temping stuff but it sound interesting. Fingers crossed for you!!

[stephk]

I think that implantation can happen 6-10 days following conception so you are in with a chance dreaming!

[maidentomother]

Does anyone else here dislike Jan/Feb/Mar (or late Winter equivalent in the Southern hemisphere) and not wish to give birth then as a result? I have SAD so I am v worried about PPD at the time of year. I really don't want to waste any time TTC, though!

I agree about Xmas birthdays...and I don't even celebrate Xmas. I actually think having a birthday during a school break or Summer sucks, leaving only Spring and Fall as good times IMO.

[LilithWiser1979]

I actually have Reverse SAD, LOL! I get horrifically depressed as soon as the first 90 degree day hits, which is really unfortunate, since I live in Phoenix, AZ! I black out all my windows, crank up the AC, and bunker down for 6 months until the weather gets nice again. I just get cabin fever being stuck inside, and I really am an outdoorsy person who loves hiking and nature, but I HATE being hot so much more than I dislike cold. I'll take walking around outside in 20 degrees over 90 degrees in a heartbeat!

As for the December birthday, I gave pause. But then, but this kid's grandmothers have December birthdays, and would be fiercely protective of their granddaughter's need for separate presents, celebrations, etc, that I think it'd be fine. Besides, the weather's PERFECT here in December, LOL!

DS1 is a July baby, and that sucks. DS2 was a February baby, and the weather's nicer for his birthday, but the morning sickness over the summer was magnified by the heat, so the pregnancy sucked. I've determined that there is NO good time to be pregnant in Phoenix!

I also realized, since it took a year to get pg with DS2, that if I try to plan out exactly what month my kid is born in, I'll take FOREVER to get pregnant. I'm going to let the chips fall where they may, this time. I started on LE as soon as DH agreed, and that just happened to be in December.I'd rather have a Xmas baby girl, than have 6 more months of swaying and get so frustrated that I drop LE and end up with an opposite!

At least, that's my justification for shrugging and TTC this month. LOL!

[dreamingofwin]

I had to laugh at the 20 degrees comment. In the UK that's like wow its hot today, lets get a bikini on at the beach and hit the beer gardens :) can't imagine your summers id struggle with that heat too x

[maidentomother]

I hate hot weather even more...I could never live in Phoenix! Even the 80s are too hot for me. I grew up where it is 60-70 degrees F 90% of the year and am VERY spoiled and senstive to extremes of temperature as a result. So yeah, giving birth in Summer is also awful, especially if you live in a warm climate. I do agree hot is worse than cold, but since I can't avoid both I prefer cold.

But you make a good point about there 'never being a good month'. I wish I didn't care so much. I know it's silly, too.

[dreamingofwin]

Now I am laughing even more as I realise you are talking F not C!! We use degrees C in UK. Bloody cold 20f for a bikini ha!!

[laVieEnRose]

Could anyone advise on when to start BD if we want to do it every 4 days
Do we start on last day of period lets say CD 6 , then CD10 or CD9? Sorry if its a dumb question lol
Xx

[dreamingofwin]

I saw someone ask this. It'll be on here under bd. It would be cd6 then cd10 x

[stephk]

Having to laugh at all of the temperature comments. I am not good in either extreme. I don't mind when I am pregnant because I hated pregnancy anyway so it will always suck my only thinking with the birthday was that my niece's birthday is christmas eve and I don't want to take attention away from her birthday at that time of year. I also have friends with birthdays on 30th December and around there and they hate their birthdays being then. However great point made and yes I too would rather have a christmas girl than wait another 6 months to get an opposite!!

At the moment I am waiting to go to the doctors for something medical to induce AF so will be trying from there - I can't hold off DH for much longer anyway so whilst I would prefer not to have a due date between mid december to mid january, if it happens it happens. The choice may be taken away anyway as I don't know if/when AF will come from the medication or if/when I may O following that.

[LilithWiser1979]

LOL, yes, I mean Farenheit! 20 degrees is below freezing. I used to visit my in-laws for Xmas in Indiana, and one year it was consistently below freezing and I was the only one willing to walk the poor dog. I don't like slipping on ice, but dealing with that is SO much better than feeling like I'm constantly baking or melting.

[maidentomother]

Could anyone advise on when to start BD if we want to do it every 4 days
Do we start on last day of period lets say CD 6 , then CD10 or CD9? Sorry if its a dumb question lol
Xx

I would start 3 days before the earliest CD you think you could O on. So for example, if you typically O on CD14, I would start BDing on CD9, since it's conceivable you'd O as early as CD12. But you can always start as soon as AF finishes, or as soon as you see fertile CM, or a darkening second line on an OPK. I've been feeling mild O pain twinges for a few days and my cervix has started softening and rising and opening, so even though I'm only on CD11, I will start today or tomorrow (was going to start even earlier but OPKs were stark white). I have been Oing CD17 or later on the diet but since I started Vitex over 3 weeks ago, I'm hoping to O earlier this month - maybe around CD14.

[maidentomother]

stephk, did you also grow up in a very temperate climate? I totally blame that! I'm so sorry you need to jump start AF; you must be SO frustrated. I have known a few cases of wonky/long cycles where Provera was just the thing needed to reset things back to normal. Hopefully that's all you need to get Oing (and conceiving) again. Man, pink swayers sure have issues with O, don't we!

[b'smommy]

Sorry to everyone that is out. :( I have the same feelings about a Christmas baby, but trying not to stress about it. I don't think I can skip a month on the clomid.

I am so tired of this diet, it's not even the vegetarian, it's the no breakfast/snacking that is killing me. Anyone else think the same?

Flowergirl, looks like we have the same timing in our 2ww. I am 3 dpo today.

[LilithWiser1979]

I grew up in San Diego! Yeah, it sucks not having year round weather in the 60's! Maybe that's where my heat intolerance comes from?

I'm also tired of the diet. I miss the snacking, the breakfast, the BEEF and BACON, dessert with tons of whipped cream on top, sugary coffee drinks from Starbucks and local coffee shops, french fries and onion rings... yeah, I may be overdue for a cheat. I just cringe at the idea of cheating this close to ovulation!

[LilithWiser1979]

On the other hand, once I get my BFP, I may be in for morning sickness, definitely will have some headaches from cutting back on coffee (I'm drinking 3 cups a day,) will probably have constipation issues from coffee and fiber pills, and I know I'll miss the alcohol. Soooo... maybe I should just enjoy the beer, coffee, bread and pasta for now. And the weight loss. Clearly that's going out the window with the BFP, as well!

[Flowergirl]

Sorry to everyone that is out. :( I have the same feelings about a Christmas baby, but trying not to stress about it. I don't think I can skip a month on the clomid.

I am so tired of this diet, it's not even the vegetarian, it's the no breakfast/snacking that is killing me. Anyone else think the same?

Flowergirl, looks like we have the same timing in our 2ww. I am 3 dpo today.

Oh that's fun b'smommy! You'll have to keep me posted re: any symptoms you start spotting and when you think you'll test! How many mg of clomid are you on? I had 100mg taken days 3 - 7 and on CD 15 today (guessing 3 dpo). I started getting really constipated (sorry tmi) last night and still feeling it today which is so odd for me, especially taking fibre everyday plus I eat a good amount of fruit and veg still. Might be my first sign?! Hoping so!!! :)

I'm also thinking, being on clomid I'll just keep TTC without a break, even if I end up with two mid Jan birthdays. I just want to fall now and move on. I'm getting over thinking about when I can eat and what I can eat etc. I'm actually pesco-vegetarian anyway but I'm missing my seafood and salmon, tuna etc. and full fat milkshakes and desserts plus being able to snack when I'm hungry. This is my sixth month of LE and I actually don't even like the look of my body at the moment, I need to put on some kg's so being preg will be so so embraced.

[Flowergirl]

GL at the doctors Stephk. I really feel for you, having to wait so long between attempts. The cycle I had before starting clomid was super long and ironically af arrived only an hour or two before my doctors appt to get provera! Have you thought about seeing if you can get clomid too?

[kitkat18]

Hey ladies good luck Steph I really feel for you it sucks not being able to even have an attempt in! Hopefully they will sort it out for you fast. Flower girl I really hear you I'm so skinny I actually hate it really looking forward to gaining a few pounds in pregnancy and yes the diet does drag.... Breakfast really does seem like a distant memory xxxxx

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[Arimethia]

I thought I would be really doing my baby a disservice if their birthday was around Xmas but my dad's is December 26th and there's always making a big to do for half birthdays instead. I'd be more worried about flu season. If we have a winter baby we won't be leaving the house for three months lol.

[stephk]

stephk, did you also grow up in a very temperate climate? I totally blame that! I'm so sorry you need to jump start AF; you must be SO frustrated. I have known a few cases of wonky/long cycles where Provera was just the thing needed to reset things back to normal. Hopefully that's all you need to get Oing (and conceiving) again. Man, pink swayers sure have issues with O, don't we!

No I grew up in Yorkshire, but think I was very tough when I lived there as we often went out without coats in winter (yes really!), since Ive moved down south Ive become a bit of a wimp lol. I dont mind the cold weather so much as I can put on clothes but when it gets extreme cold and snowing I dont like it. English summers are good because they dont get too hot, when I go abroad and its 30c plus I melt and my brain doesnt work!

I have requested an appointment with the GP at work now to get Provera. I asked atomic whether I should try vitex and she didnt think it was the best idea just in case I am one of those people that vitex lengthens cycles for, which is a good point. So medication it is. The champagne is on ice for whenever AF comes, who would have thought....Yes we do all seem to have O issues when swaying for pink, I guess we are trying to decline fertility a little in order to sway pink and I guess there is a delicate balance in doing that, we dont know how much decline we will get with any given variable. I blame BCP personally, I really regret going back on it after DS was born.

[stephk]

i am so with you all on the feeling thin. Most of my clothes are all falling off and dont look good at all. I do look healthy and am a healthy weight but the only reason I am so thin is the daily exercise and calorie restriction which isnt natural. The exercise maybe but not the calorie restriction. I enjoy what I am eating but dont enjoy lack of snacking, no breakfast etc. You are right kitkat it really is a distant memory!

Flowergirl - i am not going to ask for clomoid right now, I will try and see if provera kick starts things and if not I guess its the next logical step.

And thanks everyone for your support, it means a lot to be able to fully express things to people that understand. Even though I cant get an attempt in, I will be rooting for you all and hope you get your BFPs soon :)

[LilithWiser1979]

I'm SO jealous of you ladies getting thin. I'm only 12 lbs down and it's creeping off 1/5th of a lb at a time! And that's with about 1500 calories and an hour of cardio a day!:hair:

I feel like such a dork. My OPK is still negative, but it's getting darker and I'm getting so nervously excited! I think I'm over my cold feet and just ready to get pregnant so I can have some brisket, bacon and corned beef. Ah, to be able to hit the gym hard for only 3-4 days a week instead of just slogging along everyday...

[momto4boyz]

UGH I TOTALLY screwed my diet today and think I am going to O within the week. Not going to stress, not going to stress lol

[kitkat18]

Hey all Steph can't wait for this to get sorted for you:) lilithwiser sorry the weight is not coming off so fast we are all so different and le affects us in different ways but you've still lost weight and that's the main thing good luck for your attempt !mom to 4 boys I did the same just before O ate breakfast the first in months plus a snack it did not end in a BFP but I did not allow me myself to stress its one slip up in the overall sway no big deal xxxxxx

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[dreamingofwin]

My diet isn't going too well since my bday. I ended up having 3 pig out days and I've struggled to stay on track since. Sort of lost all motivation for it. I was so strict before too. I am still within limits but high end and for a small lady I should be lower end. I've gained weight too and stopped exercising.

All my symptom spotting has gone and I don't feel preg so expect af either over the weekend of by Monday x

[Marika]

Hi all!

Regarding christmas babies - we have always said that we would try to avoid having a baby around christmas/new year. With our first one we skipped ttc in april so eldest son is born in january. This time though, if our first attempt doesn't work (which I doubt it will), we don't care about having a christmas baby. If cycle continues to be regular next cycle would be a baby at new years eve(!). Not great, but it would probably be more around christmas since both sons are born 5 and 18 days before set date.

We also have several family members born around christmas but I just can't see waiting another month as an alternative now, especially not since swaying.

About diet - mine isn't going very well either. Yesterday was a really bad day. Kids are sick, I was at home and it's just too easy to wanna grab a snack. At work I don't have as much time to even think about snacking or eating, but at home... really hard.

Calculated it all though and it was within limits, even though calories were fairly high, around 1700. My cheats were sweets (swedish fish and marshmallow fluff - had really bad sugar craving!)

Will try to shape up and get some focus again, I haven't even been on the diet so long, I shouldn't be off track yet!

Hoping to see some bfp:s here soon!!

[Flowergirl]

I'm SO jealous of you ladies getting thin. I'm only 12 lbs down and it's creeping off 1/5th of a lb at a time! And that's with about 1500 calories and an hour of cardio a day!:hair:

I feel like such a dork. My OPK is still negative, but it's getting darker and I'm getting so nervously excited! I think I'm over my cold feet and just ready to get pregnant so I can have some brisket, bacon and corned beef. Ah, to be able to hit the gym hard for only 3-4 days a week instead of just slogging along everyday...

Trust me Lilith, it's not all it's cracked up to be. It's actually really hard being underweight, looking bony and having to still deprive yourself of food and calories. My work provides lunch but because it's often something fatty like fish and chips I've been bringing in my own LE friendly options and the comments I get are so hard. Everyone is saying that I'm fading away to nothing and even probing me as to whether I now have an eating disorder. It's not nice :( my only motivation is my baby girl... Xx

[stephk]

mumto4boyz I dont think one day will make any difference to your sway, you will be fine hon

dreaming, i am sure you will be back on track soon. I have 3 pig out days every week, friday to sunday, sometimes I manage OK but most of the time not. Fingers crossed you get a late birthday present in the form of a BFP :)

marika, doesnt sound like you are doing badly at all, the calories are fine and having a few sweets doesnt harm - they dont have the same nutrients as fat plate of chicken.

flowergirl that sounds really hard. People make such stupid comments without thinking. Its nice of your workplace to provide lunch but they should be thinking of their employees health and providing better options. If I was provided with free fish and chips every day or something along those lines, LE diet or not i would probably have their food once or twice a month and bring my own the rest of the time. I get similar comments from friends/DH's family - oh have you lost weight again - are you eating - why have you lost so much weight, what are you doing - do you realise if you want to have a baby you shouldnt lose weight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sometimes I think it is down to jealousy and also some people just like drama. Your work colleagues should not be making you feel uncomfortable at work like that.

I had to buy a new bra today as seriously the bra i bought in november is massive up to my tiny boobs :( I was wearing a 36B and now have a 32C. Have held off buying so now hoping I will get PG soon and have go back up a size again.....

[stephk]

update on my own sorry situation, BFN this morning of course. Went to the private GP at work, told him the situation, asked for provera or something to help me. He said that we should investigate any underlying issue, not just take a pill to bring on a period. So he referred me to a private hospital for an ultrasound and told me not to tell my insurer that i was trying to get PG, just that my periods havent returned. Well of course my insurer asked me in my own words, and I said my periods have stopped and they said this isnt an eligible reason blah blah blah am I trying for a baby as this is not eligible! this woman was so patronising, I found it all very upsetting that I was literally in tears at my desk for about 10 minutes. All I want is some damn provera I dont care about the stupid hospital ultrasound, I know there is nothing wrong! Anyway, I calmed myself down and called my own doctor so I have an appointment on thursday afternoon. I guess I wouldnt have started the provera until friday anyway (3 weeks after attempt so definitely not PG). Havent lost anything just feeling pretty down. I just hope my doctor doesnt insist on sending me for an NHS ultrasound or waiting it out or I will be waiting ages :(

[laVieEnRose]

Stephk, ah you poor love. So sorry you are feeling down and for what you are going through... I hope that you will get it sorted very soon. Sending you big hugs xxx

[laVieEnRose]

Any BFP for anyone yet?...
I'm now on CD5... Struggling with le diet too ...
Pfff...must keep focused ...

[Marika]

Stephk - so sorry to hear about your struggle! :-(

Are you in the UK or US? I understand we have totally different care systems in Sweden, but for me it is so odd to have to justify your need with the insurance company. In Sweden we do pay a lot of taxes, but most hospital care is free or cost very little. We have a maximum fee of around 130 dollars a year! If hospitalized, we pay 10 dollars a day! Getting doctors appointments aren't always easy, but it's never impossible if you really need help. So your struggle sound just terrible to me. Hop you get better luck on thursday!

[atomic sagebrush]

Different countries' health care systems all have their advantages and disadvantages, so let's just leave it at that. :)

[stephk]

Thanks guys. Everything crossed we get some BFPs in the group soon. And its the weekend so an excuse to cheat on the diet :)

[LilithWiser1979]

Stephk, I'm so sorry! I've often resorted to googling to find out what maladies the insurance company WILL pay for and lying about my circumstances/symptoms to get them to do their job and pick up the tab! Yeah, I hate the for-profit medical model, as well. BUT... I am swaying and trying to stay out of politics ATM... so I'll leave it at that!

Yeah, it would be hard to be suspected of having an eating disorder, but then again, I've been overweight since high school, and I'd love to be truly thin ONCE in my adult life. It just frustrates me that no matter how I diet and exercise, I struggle to even get to a "normal weight" BMI.

CD11 for me! OPK is slowly getting darker. I'm hoping for a +OPK on Sunday, but I'll take it whenever it comes. I just know DH is planning to drink a lot tonight, and I "gave him a hand" last night, so tonight would be hard to get him to finish. I'm SO glad we're not doing FR, as he has a really hard time with that, and CFR is something he would have yelled at me for having to do.

I am SO ready to have my attempt behind me. I miss sex! I have a big O every time we do it, so I've been abstaining. Haven't had an O all month, and I'm doing it this way because it's the polar opposite of how I got my boys. We were doing it all the time and twice on o day!

Hang in there ladies!

[b'smommy]

Oh that's fun b'smommy! You'll have to keep me posted re: any symptoms you start spotting and when you think you'll test! How many mg of clomid are you on? I had 100mg taken days 3 - 7 and on CD 15 today (guessing 3 dpo). I started getting really constipated (sorry tmi) last night and still feeling it today which is so odd for me, especially taking fibre everyday plus I eat a good amount of fruit and veg still. Might be my first sign?! Hoping so!!! :)

I'm also thinking, being on clomid I'll just keep TTC without a break, even if I end up with two mid Jan birthdays. I just want to fall now and move on. I'm getting over thinking about when I can eat and what I can eat etc. I'm actually pesco-vegetarian anyway but I'm missing my seafood and salmon, tuna etc. and full fat milkshakes and desserts plus being able to snack when I'm hungry. This is my sixth month of LE and I actually don't even like the look of my body at the moment, I need to put on some kg's so being preg will be so so embraced.

That sounds promising!!! This is my 2nd month on clomid, 50 mg (3-7). I got a pos opk on cd 15, so I think I am 5 dpo today. I also got a pos opk on cd 10 and 11 (you never know, we treated it as a real postive).

I too have been taking fiber and this month I was extremely bloated after o and still am and have been very very hungry. This is 5th month on LE and I have been ok with not eating tons, haven't really been too hungry, but I have been STARVING since this weekend. I am also feeling a little crampy today. Trying not to analyze everything since we have been TTC for over a year, I stopped paying attention to symptoms (everything started to feel like a symptom, lol).

I don't mind the vegetarian, I actually like it, I miss seafood the most. I miss eating food whenever I want and miss eating more protein and good fats like olive oil and avocado, and will totally crush like a dozen cookies whenever I get a bfp. I also am not loving my body, I am too skinny now and can't even afford to loose any more weight. Nothing fits me, I need some muscle! :)

[b'smommy]

Good luck Stephk, I hope you get to pop open that champagne on ice really soon. Such a pain. I too had to get a new bra, haha.

[LilithWiser1979]

Here's my blog post:

I genuinely feel bad. Today is DH's birthday. I assumed, based on everything I had been looking at, my cycle, and how Fertility Friend predicted it, that I'd be getting a +OPK tomorrow or Sunday. Nope! I just took one that was just a hair lighter than control, which means if my morning one was ALMOST positive, my afternoon one is highly likely to be positive. My EWCM is also drying up, so I'm pretty sure it's tonight or not at all this month.

DH does not want another kid. He does not like have sex TTC (it wrecks the experience for him knowing what we're trying to do.) It bothers him if I don't have an orgasm. And I'm going make him TTC our daughter tonight, making sure NOT to have an orgasm, on his birthday. Sigh.

This is also happening after I forgot to say "Happy Birthday" to him this morning! I'm usually in a fog when I first wake up, and I don't remember special things until an hour or so later. I always forget our anniversary, Valentine's Day, even my own birthday, until I've had some coffee. Now I just feel terrible.

His best friend is also spending the night on our couch tonight, and we will be going out to dinner with them and having drinks. Now I'm concerned that he won't be able to perform if he drinks too much (on his own birthday!) and that we have to be super quiet doing it with guests in our living room! I REALLY wish I'd gotten that +OPK tomorrow.

I'm still going to go through with it. I just feel like a crappy wife.

[greeneyes]

Here's my blog post:

I genuinely feel bad. Today is DH's birthday. I assumed, based on everything I had been looking at, my cycle, and how Fertility Friend predicted it, that I'd be getting a +OPK tomorrow or Sunday. Nope! I just took one that was just a hair lighter than control, which means if my morning one was ALMOST positive, my afternoon one is highly likely to be positive. My EWCM is also drying up, so I'm pretty sure it's tonight or not at all this month.

DH does not want another kid. He does not like have sex TTC (it wrecks the experience for him knowing what we're trying to do.) It bothers him if I don't have an orgasm. And I'm going make him TTC our daughter tonight, making sure NOT to have an orgasm, on his birthday. Sigh.

This is also happening after I forgot to say "Happy Birthday" to him this morning! I'm usually in a fog when I first wake up, and I don't remember special things until an hour or so later. I always forget our anniversary, Valentine's Day, even my own birthday, until I've had some coffee. Now I just feel terrible.

His best friend is also spending the night on our couch tonight, and we will be going out to dinner with them and having drinks. Now I'm concerned that he won't be able to perform if he drinks too much (on his own birthday!) and that we have to be super quiet doing it with guests in our living room! I REALLY wish I'd gotten that +OPK tomorrow.

I'm still going to go through with it. I just feel like a crappy wife.


I conceived all my girls with the Big O. My boys no O. I wouldn't think that getting some good lovins would totally kill your sway. I think its more about diet, exercise, etc. Just me though. I know it can increase T, but if you've been avoiding the big O, would one ruin it? Its up to you, good luck!! Hope you get the egg! :)

[LilithWiser1979]

Thanks Greeneyes. I'm actually choosing to avoid O because I conceived 3 boys with O before and after ejaculation. I want to do the complete opposite (or at least try to) so that I know I did everything I could. I just know I'll always wonder if that could have made the difference if I conceive a boy again.

[kitkat18]

Good luck lilith my only advice act relaxed even if you not feeling it, have fun have a few drinks then your hubby won't feel the pressure (he's not the only one they all are!) xxx

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[Jmrad]

Hello everyone! I'm a newbie here, my husband and I will be TTC on this cycle..... Swaying for a girl as there hasn't been one in his family for over 40yrs!! I've been taking calcium citrate (I first started with the other kind but switched) I'm also taking magnesium and folic acid. I'm not 100% sure when the best time to DTD is..... I've heard a few different ways..... Some say every day after AF up until 3 days before O I've also heard O+12. I want to get it right can anyone tell me what worked best for them? I've also been drinking natural cranberry juice (which I heard to stop after O because it can cause MC) I've been trying to stay away from salt I pretty much eat the same thing every day. Oatmeal for breakie
Apple nuts yoghurt and veggies at work and salad. Fish and veg for dinner .... Been exercising and doing all this for about a monh..... Should we continue a while longer before TTC? Any tips are appreciated

[Marika]

Lillith - I hope you both had a great evening and that you got your chance! Your husband is far from the only one feeling stressed over bd to ttc, mine was sooo relieved when the attempt was over. I also recognize the issue about not O:ing - it really feels kind of awkward for both of us... I am not sure that an O would spoil it all though, but I understand that you try to avoid, I did it as well just in case...

Good luck to you!

[stephk]

Lillith - hope you had a great night, and happy birthday to your DH. Definitely agree with kitkat, just act relaxed, he doesn't need to know what you are really thinking haha :) - when we do our attempts, I try not to O but sometimes I do and to be honest I really don't think it makes that much difference whether you do or not. And they like to feel like men, my DH doesn't like it either if I don't O, and we should try to keep them happy as much as possible. I am also not good with BD if we have houseguests, either I avoid altogether or am totally silent wrecking the mood completely!!

[stephk]

Hi Jmrad - welcome to the group :)

Re BD, most ladies are BDing every 4 days in order to have one attempt in the fertile window.

Regarding what you are eating, although there are no forbidden foods on the LE diet i wouldn't recommend nuts or oatmeal every day, maybe once in a while but not every day. Also you don't need to take the calcium or magnesium supplements for a pink sway. You can find a lot of information on the LE diet here if that is what you plan to do?

[Jmrad]

I read somewhere almonds were good for a pink sway! Hmmm well ill be sure to cut those and the oatmeal out! I can't find any DIRECT information about the LE diet, just little things here and there nothing that gives me a straight answer on what to eat. Is soy good? I read that it was. I appreciate the tips!

I do NOT do well with DTD with houseguests!! I tell my husband he's gotta hold out lol the guest room is right beside our bedroom!
Drives him nuts!
He also always wants to when we visit my parents or his I'm kind of a prude when it comes to that te he he

[momto4boyz]

Anyone have crazy baby girl dreams? The Last week I have been having dreams that we have a baby girl. Sometimes its just after birth, sometimes she is 6 months to a year old. So crazy!

[atomic sagebrush]

I read somewhere almonds were good for a pink sway! Hmmm well ill be sure to cut those and the oatmeal out! I can't find any DIRECT information about the LE diet, just little things here and there nothing that gives me a straight answer on what to eat. Is soy good? I read that it was. I appreciate the tips!

I do NOT do well with DTD with houseguests!! I tell my husband he's gotta hold out lol the guest room is right beside our bedroom!
Drives him nuts!
He also always wants to when we visit my parents or his I'm kind of a prude when it comes to that te he he

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-girl/16780-low-everything-diet-nutshell-version.html

Most of the LE Diet stuff is in the Dream Members section. We have to put it there because people steal everything otherwise.