Christmas Babies!! TTC Pink April

[kitkat18]

hey guys,
Started a new thread for all of us gearing up to our attempts in April, come join me xxxx

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[stephk]

Hey - I am joining but as per previous months I dont know if I will ovulate lol!!! I will be the cheerleader anyway.............

[FitBlonde]

We are planning on trying mid-late April (if my cycle does what it's meant to). I will be joining in!

[dreamingofwin]

hello!!!

I am coming over from March thanks to af today :( Still undecided on doing an attempt this month.

Ive gained 4lbs and been off le for 12 days now after being so strict and loosing 13lbs in 8 weeks. Ive stopped exercise but think I plan on stopping it anyway for my sway.

I also have gyne on the 10th April and they want a list of my medications and will be tesing for my short lp so can't take any supps this months...

I am so torn. What would you ladies do? Have a month off, get back on the le, stop supps and wait for May? Or be strict for 2 weeks and attempt minus the supps? xx

[SamS_TTCPink]

Dreamingofwin I've been off the diet for about 10days too and with no exercise. 😢 I think we're going to have April off and sway hard again til May. I really thought March would be our month but with several BFNs and AF due in a few days and PMS symptoms kicking in today (I turn into a bitch!) I am pretty sure we're out for March. I'd love to attempt in April and have a Christmas baby but I'm not confident enough in our sway after the past 10 or so days.


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[stephk]

dreaming and mumof6 sorry to hear you are out.

dreaming, I guess it depends on how strict a sway you really want to do or you just want to get PG as quick as possible or whether you can manage to wait a month. Not sure how you/DH feel about this time of year for a birthday? I think if i was in your shoes i would probably go back on the diet, minus the supps and not try not prevent if that makes sense. But thats just me and I dont know your situation so you have to think about how strict you want to be, whether you really want to be doing the supps and whether you think it matters about the weight gain (which will probably come right off again when back on the diet).

I would personally prefer not to give birth on xmas/new year. However I dont think I will O this month anyway, or if I do it will be right at the end but who knows *CROSSING FINGERS I GET PROVERA ON THURSDAY* - as you are going to a doctor and trying to sort out your LP, the decision might be taken out of your hands anyway? Not sure how the doctor will sort out your LP as I dont know about that on that but I hope you manage to get it sorted soon.

[dreamingofwin]

I think that more or less says how I am feeling. I do not ideally want a baby over that 2 week period at xmas/new year.

We will have a month off and I will start le again hard...after my cheat day of course ;) x

[laVieEnRose]

Hi girls, I'm joining in! Due to my being vintage, can't really afford to miss a month TTC ;-).
I really don't mind a Xmas baby

Sorry that you are out for march dreamingofwin and mumofsix. Xx
Stephk hope you get Provera this week x

Kitkat, what CD are you? I'm CD9 x

[WillowsGirl]

Hello I hope you don't mind if I join you. I got a plan a while back but decided to put off my sway until now. I have been on the diet for about four weeks and started exercising an hour a day about six weeks ago. I really feel like April is my month. And I would love a December baby. I also think I read April was supposed to be the best month for conceiving girls. But I'm so nervous!

Good luck to all of us!

[Rosie85]

Hey ladies. We have a thread that is for ttc in april, may, june. It is very active! Both pink and blue swayers over there. Inviting ya'll in case you wanted to join another thread!

I will hop onto this one too. I am attempting I believe the last week in April. If my cycle isn't wonky again I should ovulate around the 26th-28th time frame. So it would be a January baby for me!

I have been on the diet since January 1st and have lost 20 lbs so far. I am doing cardio 6 days a week and have somewhat loosened on the diet so I could start ovulating again. I am still lower calories but upped my fats a bit and it helped. I only do meat twice a week and during my period. I have been having a fasting period at night of about 16 hours from after dinner snack to the next days lunch.

[Kidandcatmommy]

I'm joining in! AF came tonight so definitely out for March. I had always said I never wanted a Christmas/New Year's baby but now I feel like I shouldn't waste a month. I'm 35 and not getting younger so hoping and praying for a pink mistletoe baby. Funny how your perspective changes!

[Abifasc]

Hi ladies, I'm starting to ttc in April and will probably o around the 25-28. If we conceive right away, I'd be due in January, but probably not have the baby until February...my babies have always been late! I'm so excited!

[kitkat18]

Wow!! Exciting so many new names!! Abifasc, kidcatmommy,rosie85,willowgirl,fitblonde welcome to gearing up to your first attempts exciting stuff!!
Dreamingofwin and mumofsix keep checking in on us hope you have a few cheat days!!
Stephk good luck for Thursday xx
This will be my third attempt and I have been on diet for twelve weeks. I have lost 12 pounds and trying to hold tight as my ovulation is getting later and I don't have alot to spare! Oh and I'm a little vintage at 35.
La vie en rose on cycle day 7
Can't wait to chat and fixed we all get a wee Xmas pink parcel xxxx

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[sweetdream]

I'm in. On cycle day 9 now! Gonna start egg spotting somewere saterday or sunday. Maybe later. Gonna watch the symptoms.
We'll see.

[dreamingofwin]

I feel sad to be missing a month! I am going to stick around as according to FF I ov at the end of April (as well as beginning) so still have an April ttc! It gives me 6 weeks to get back on track though (after today of course!)


Welcome to first attempters! Hopefully your stay will be short and sweet x

[laVieEnRose]

Good morning everyone!
I'm a bit confused this morning: I feel o pain on my right side and lower back, yesterday I was so tired it was like a proper fatigue that I couldn't fight off. So
I POAS and and this massive dark line on OPK stick. So I did another just to make sure and its much lighter... I'm only cd10 and tend to O on cd16 ...
We did BD yesterday as the start of the every 4 day frequency, but should we bd today as well or just leave it till Saturday (4th day)...
Thanks girls xx

[laVieEnRose]

Actually the second test is equal so def a OPK+...

[sweetdream]

I would stick to one. Every 4 day is fine

[SamS_TTCPink]

So after an argument with DH this morning over food and the LE diet and me having a tantrum and saying "let's just forget the whole thing, I'm over it, I'm done" (AF is defiantly on it's way 😉 and I'm also just down about no BFP this month - I wanted a 2013 baby😕) he tells me tonight he doesn't want to wait til May and wants to try again in April. I think he is just over the diet and wants to get back to weights training and eating red meat....but I worked out dates and IF it did happen to plan, I would be due on jan 2. My concern is that if it came early, I would "mess up" the traditional Xmas-New Years celebrations and family rounds etc....which would be a blessing for me (I hate family events) but the kids would be disappointed and I'd never hear the end of it from my family who would always resent the baby even more than what they already will being our seventh child!! 😕 Arrgghh... Don't know what to do. I'm also not to sure because of the way I've fallen off the wagon with diet and exercise.


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[laVieEnRose]

17862Right so now I'm even MORE confused and in absolutely shock!!!
So I have had my period but I just thought I would do a Pregnancy test as I have some symptoms and it looks like its +
But I find it hard to believe because I just had AF for 8 days??!! Surely I can't be pregnant and have a BFP from yesterday attempt?
Could the test be wrong?

[Marika]

17862Right so now I'm even MORE confused and in absolutely shock!!!
So I have had my period but I just thought I would do a Pregnancy test as I have some symptoms and it looks like its +
But I find it hard to believe because I just had AF for 8 days??!! Surely I can't be pregnant and have a BFP from yesterday attempt?
Could the test be wrong?

Wow!! That is a super strong BFP!! Huge congratulations! :-D

It must surely be from the last attempt. Some women have AF the first month of pregnancy. Fantastic!

[stephk]

Congrats! you should definitely take another test. some people do have AF whilst PG

[dreamingofwin]

Wow that looks a strong positive!!! I would be as confused as you! I've heard of pregnancy tests showing opsitive on OPK's but never the other way round! Do you have the clear blue digital where it tells you 'pregnant' 'not pregnant' id buy one of those. If in doubt book in a blood test at the doctors.

Mumofsix what a turn around. Only you can decide. Having a 7th child and it being another boy is a possibility, but you knew that going into this. It depends on how quickly you want this. I am also still torn but still not eating le either. I know we will not ttc this next cycle deep down as I want to have given it my best shot for a girl. Plus as I got af exactly on th March they'd class my due date as 25th dec. Id really rather aviod that x

[laVieEnRose]

Thanks girls- I'm not getting too excited though as the bleeding which I thought was AF could have been a very early mc...not sure what to think and what to do - just in shock...

mumofsix, it is a hard decision, just bear in mind that there's no 'perfect' sway and I don't think you would spoil anyone's holidays.the decision is yours though, hope you find the answer in you. Xx

[WillowsGirl]

Wow that is a bright positive! I would be optimistic that your are pregnant since the positive is so strong, even after the bleeding. I would probably take a few more tests and get to the dr ASAP for a blood test. Hope all is ok!

Thank you for the welcome! I don't mind if it takes a few months as I've only been on diet a month so could use more time, and it's not too bad. Although I will surely be sick of it eventually. I'm trying to keep it simple and not stress.

[Rosie85]

That is one bright and blaring positive! Keep testing but I think a congrats are in order!

[kitkat18]

La vie en rose that sounds like good news!! Congrats!! How super strange though.... get a blood test to make sure 100% but sounds like you are moving to a due date forum ;)
Dreamingofawin have you asked atomics advice? She always says no perfect sway I figure the longer I am on this diet the looser I will become what a way to kick off April (though tech. March) with a BFP xxx

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[laVieEnRose]

How strange indeed ...will go to the doc /early pregnancy unit and will update you as soon as I know hopefully with a big happy face :-)

GL to everyone xx

[laVieEnRose]

How strange indeed ...will go to the doc /early pregnancy unit and will update you as soon as I know hopefully with a big happy face :-)

GL to everyone xx

[SamS_TTCPink]

17862Right so now I'm even MORE confused and in absolutely shock!!!
So I have had my period but I just thought I would do a Pregnancy test as I have some symptoms and it looks like its +
But I find it hard to believe because I just had AF for 8 days??!! Surely I can't be pregnant and have a BFP from yesterday attempt?
Could the test be wrong?

That looks pretty positive to me! :) With DS1 I still had AF for the first month or 2, although I didn't get a pos pregnancy test…all I got was BFNs but I knew I was pregnant. Even had a negative blood test and ultrasound which said I wasn't but I was?!? :) So it defiantly is possible to still have AF and be pregnant. Fingers crossed for you.

[sweetdream]

That's what you call a BFP! congrats!

[laVieEnRose]

Update : this little bean doesn't seem to want to stay unfortunately :-(
The u/s this morning was inconclusive, waiting for blood test results but looks like its not meant to be...

:sad:

[stephk]

oh no :( so sorry to hear

[laVieEnRose]

Just heard that blood tests don't really conclude anything either: hCG is >100 and progesterone <40. Not sure what these levels mean.

Retest on Saturday to see if its increasing or decreasing.

[girliedreamz]

Oh, how frustrating, laVieEnRose! Fingers crossing for good news for you.

I'm straddling two months, so thought I'd join in here. Got +opk yesterday... but not sure if we should ttc this month after all. I'm in the same boat as dreaming - been crap on the diet and exercise this month. On the other hand, I've been doing LE for a year now, and I know the stats for LE long term are no where as good as middle of the road. The stats for exercise are excellent, though, so I'm really thinking a few more weeks of that would be stellar. Gah! Must make up my mind today... I'm so undecided!

And, being a December baby myself, I'm totally for a Christmas baby! I think it would make that time of year that much more special. We have a tradition in my house of going to get our tree and decorating it on my birthday - which I totally love. :)

Then again, if I don't ttc today, I'll be having a baby new year. Decisions, decisions... help me, girls!

[sweetdream]

I think you have to wait. To see if it rise or not. Keep fingers crossed there is a healthy bean in there.

[maidentomother]

Lavie, I really hope it turns out okay. Hugs!

Girliedreamz, you should attempt...bc you've been on the diet so long, and bc I am expecting to O in the next few days and want someone to wait with. :P

[angielorna]

Just heard that blood tests don't really conclude anything either: hCG is >100 and progesterone <40. Not sure what these levels mean.

Retest on Saturday to see if its increasing or decreasing.

I'll be thinking of you! I really hope your bean sticks around for the long haul.

I'd like to join in on the TTC April thread :) I'll be O'ing somewhere around Fri-Sun next week and I am THRILLED to be getting started. I have not been swaying long but hopefully what I've been doing will be helpful. Aching to hold a fresh new baby, girl or boy (though I'm really hoping for girl).

giriedreamz -- did you go for it? I would much rather a Christmas baby to a new year baby (but, hey, I'll take what I can get)....but that's just me!

So excited!
Angie

[dreamingofwin]

Oh no so sorry to hear that. I really hope your levels increase.

Girliedreamz id attempt if was you. If I didn't have these blood tests so can't take any supps id not be missing a cycle. I am back on le today and sure I could get the 5lbs back off I've gained by my attempt but it'd be minus any supps so we won't risk it I don't think x

[marriedmomof2]

I hope you ladies don't mind if I join in, I won't be ttc in April. But I am rooting for you all :cheer:
La VieEn Rose, I hope that your levels increase.

[WillowsGirl]

Just heard that blood tests don't really conclude anything either: hCG is >100 and progesterone <40. Not sure what these levels mean.

Retest on Saturday to see if its increasing or decreasing.

Praying you have a healthy sticky bean! How confusing!



Is anyone else that's doing exercise getting burnt out on it? I've been doing it for almost six weeks and I have to psych myself up to go do it. I just hate it. I really hope I get a BFP so I can scale back.

[Rosie85]

I am not sick of the exercise yet. I am actually borderline obsessed with doing it and losing weight. It's gratifying. I am sure if I don't conceive my 1st try out I will get discouraged and sick of it though.

Could you maybe try switching it up a bit? Trying a new exercise? Going a different time of day?

[WillowsGirl]

Maybe I'll try doing something different. Usually the time of day isn't consistent, just whenever I can squeeze it in. I could try riding a bike maybe.

[SamS_TTCPink]

Update : this little bean doesn't seem to want to stay unfortunately :-(
The u/s this morning was inconclusive, waiting for blood test results but looks like its not meant to be...

:sad:

Keeping my fingers crossed for you! Keep us updated when you know more. :awe:

[kitkat18]

So sorry la vie en rose hope it sticks and you get some good news could have been a chemical xxx

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[kitkat18]

Girliedreamz I would attempt!! Its been a year no time is going to be perfect for you and if you don't mind a Xmas baby why give up a month!! Good luck in your decision.xxx

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[FitBlonde]

Willowsgirl - I have been exercising an hour a day 5-6 days per week for almost a month, I am a personal trainer and even I'm getting sick of it. Not sure what I'll do if I dont conceive first try, I'm starting to get over it already. At the same time I like it as it is 'me' time. I walk on the treadmill and watch tv shows on the iPad. Lately I've been obsessed with datelines to catch a predator, so I watch that for an hour.

Lavieenrose - fingers crossed it is a sticky bean. One of my friends bled badly when she was first pregnant (I'm talking clots and everything). Fingers crossed for you!

To everyone: what BD pattern are you all following?

[laVieEnRose]

Thank you lovely ladies for your support and kind words.
I don't 'feel' pregnant if that makes sense so I'm thinking its prob not meant o be.
The strange thing is that I had a mc two years ago at the same time give it take a few days.... Isn't it a bit spooky?

So I'm still carrying on the le diet and sticking to my sway plan.
Not sure when we can resume bd though.

First attempt we bd at +OPK but we had plan to bd every 4 days for the next cycle
I'm not exercising as wouldn't find the time or motivation to do it everyday.
Good luck to all if you with your attempt.
Love xx

[SamS_TTCPink]

Thinking of you laVieEnRose. xx


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[Marika]

la vie en rose: I am so sorry, I truly hope it sticks and that this will end well!!



Mum of six: Congratulations to you!!

[stephk]

LaVieEnRose - I will be thinking of you, hopefully it will stick. It is spooky that the same thing happened 2 years ago.

Girliedreamz - I would attempt in your shoes - leave it in the hands of fate - good luck :)

Willowsgirl - I must be mad as I love the exercise. Like FitBlonde, this is my time, this is when I allow any thoughts to come into my mind without judgement, no matter how martha they may be lol!! My DH isnt too happy though as I get up so early to do it during the week and then at the weekend he thinks I should spend more time with him (at the weekend literally I am out for an hours aerobics class on saturday and an hour on the cross trainer on sunday, he really needs to get over it....)

As for me, well I STILL have no joy on the medication front, I was at the doctor yesterday, he looked about 15, had never heard of Provera, had to look it up on the computer, then he said he couldnt understand why I would want to take that to bring on a period or how it could help me ovulate....I was very insistent and gave him as much knowledge as I could, he left the room to consult a colleague for 10 mins, came back and said they hadnt heard of it either! I said I was not above buying it illegally I was desperate to TTC, I am already 35 and dont want to waste any more time in my fertile years. He said he would send me for blood tests to check my hormone levels, iron levels, thyroid etc. So thats on 8th April and the results take 4 working days. But I will still be here with you ladies cheering you on.

[Marika]

I am out of march but still undecided on wheather to go for april or not. I think it depends a bit on my cycle. Since I have been bleeding for almost a week I don't know if that should be considered Af or how cycle is going. I am planning on adding in exercise and since exercise during only 2 weeks might sway blue I think maybe I should skip april? Also, O in about 1-2 weeks would be baby right at christmas/new years week.

Steph - what a bad luck with the doctors! Hope he gets some more time to get info about Provera until you go there in april and that you get the prescription!

Oh, one more thing I could REALLY need some advice about - Vitex! It screwed up my cycle this time (1st time using it, AF to O) and I have been spotting from 7-8 dpo to now (AF supposed to start today). Should I drop it or continue and hope it gets better?! How important is it for the sway? If recommendation is to continue I must start today.

[SamS_TTCPink]

Stephk - grrrrr….it can be so frustrating with drs! After I had the twins, i also had a pretty severe PPH and had no milk. I wanted to breastfeed badly and i went to dr after dr to try to get Motillium and i Got the same responses you're getting about provera -never heard of it, you can't have it for that..blah blah blah!! Its so annoying when you know more than the drs seem to! :hair:

Hopefully you'll get some better news soon. xx

[stephk]

Vitex does have the potential to mess up your cycles. You just dont know whether you are one of those people until you take it. It is not vital for a sway so dont feel like you have to include it unless you are set on taking it.

[maidentomother]

Stephk, how frustrating! I hate when drs are clueless...which happens all too often IME. I studied Pharmacy and almost went to med school and despite knowing my background many drs aren't interested in hearing my suggestions, ugh. I rarely find it useful to consult a dr and wish I could prescribe to myself. I do think blood work can only help shed light on your situation, though.

I feel like Vitex might be preventing O, as well as making my cervix hard, low, and closed. I stopped taking it for 2 days bc I ran out, my temp dropped and cervix became SHOW, then I started taking it again and infertile cervix and temp up a bit, wtf. So I'm not going to take it today. It seems I am just Oing later and later every month since swaying, I hate it! I was so hoping to have my DD if I conceived fall on my late husband's bday (Dec 16th), instead it will fall on Xmas if I don't O very soon. :(

[stephk]

oh maiden, that sucks :( wow vitex really is messing with a lot of people. Although your due date could be christmas week and you could still potentially give birth on 16th december?

I am surprised doctors wont listen to you given your background. I am not surprised they dont listen to me as I dont have the qualifications to back up what I am saying. This one must have been straight out of medical school so you would think he would be more helpful....oh well i am glad to be getting the blood test at least it will shed some light on the situation!

[b'smommy]

Hi Ladies!

LaVieEnRose - I am thinking about you, and really hoping that bean sticks. I too had a friend that bleed with 2 pregnancies (clots and everything).

GirlieDreamz - I would also attempt, I have felt for me some months were better than others and I think you always feel like you could have done more.

Stephk - That is just unbelievable that the doctors have no clue. How awful to keep playing this waiting game!

Marika - sorry you are out for March :( I would add in exercise starting with the next O, that way you get a full month. At least that is what Atomic said when I asked.

On another note... I got a BFP yesterday at 11 dpo. :) Still very early, I know. I went in and had blood work and the hcg was 40, which my doctor felt was good considering I was still 3 days early, I think I o'd on cd 16. I go back on Monday for more blood work and just cross my fingers it has doubled!!! I took another test this am and it was just a hair darker. I will keep taking them through the weekend to compare.

[stephk]

fantastic news b'smommy congrats!! Yay for more BFPs!!

[marriedmomof2]

steph, I'm sorry that sucks that he couldn't just write it. Did he suggest an alternative? Besides from the blood work?
b'smommy, that is so exciting, congrats!!

[stephk]

no he didnt suggest an alternative, i dont think he really knew about this area of medicine... he kept saying that my period might come soon (like he was hoping it would so I would go away). He said that once we had blood tests then we would know whether I needed to see a gynacologist.

willing to see what the blood test shows.

[laVieEnRose]

Congrats B'smommy!! This is very exciting and of course congrats again Mumofsix! FX for those little beans!!

Sorry you are out Marika

Stephk: it must be really frustrating and I hope you will get to the bottom of it with the blood tests. Big hugs

Maidentomother , maybe you are one of these people that Vitex don't really agree with? How would you feel if you dropped it? Im sure your sway would be just as good. I am not expert of course but I do believe in 'signs' and listening to your body.

[girliedreamz]

Yay, b'smommy!!!

[kitkat18]

Omg!!! Another BFP yahhhh bs mommy !!!! Funny how they always come thick and fast at end of the month.
Steph- how frustrating!! But as maiden mother said blood work is always a good thing. Hugs!! You must be so over waiting x
Marika sorry you are out no advice to give on vitex as I have never taken it I considered it but atomic did not think it was necessary for me with delayed ovulation already
Good luck everyone making an attempt or chilling out waiting me :)
Quick question does anyone hear have two smiley opk days and if so which one do you BD on?? I have been on the first but I see that as O-3 with my years of charting just wanting to up my chances for April xxxxx

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[kitkat18]

La vie en rose hope you are okay!! Hugs hope you find out more today xxx

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[b'smommy]

Thanks everyone!! I am very excited, this was my 2nd round on clomid. We have been ttc since sept 2012 (but did have a MC), so just really praying this is a sticky bean!!! :) I'm trying to not get too excited until I get blood work results on Monday, but I have resumed breakfast and snacking. I have been STARVING now for 2 weeks, it just never eased up. I am still going to stick to the veggie diet for a bit, but I can't stop eating and then I feel gross, but STILL hungry!!! I stopped counting my cals yesterday too, what the heck. I don't even want to know the #'s, haha.

My dh was laughing at me on wed night b/c I was roasting marshmallows over the stove and putting them in between wheat thins with a mini mr. goodbar. I went back 3 times!!! He said he just knew then since it was sooo not normal for me, haha.

[dreamingofwin]

Huge congratualtions b'smummy!!!!! Hope this is your pink bundle :)

I have taken taking vitex for 3 months, first month it put back ov 3 days but that was also my first month super strict on le so could also have been that. The last 2 cycles have been normal ov day. Maybe give it a miss a month and see if it goes back to normal. I am sure I read Atomic saying it didnt get that great results, I only took it for my short lp but its not really helping.

I am terrible. I have fallen off the wagon again after just 1 day being good. Its been like this since 14th March!!! I just cannot find my motivation. I even looked online at girl baby clothes on wed to motivate me which did on thurs until I saw a yummy chocolate bar at my mums house this afternoon and wham I ate it!! I then think stuff it and go to the shop and buy naughty stuff. I need help!!! x

[WillowsGirl]

Congrats b'smummy on the bfp!!

StephK so sorry you had a bad experience with your doctor. It stinks when they don't know how to do what you need them to do.

We are using the frequent BD pattern with protection and then one unprotected attempt, as this is the only pattern my husband would agree to. He's very reluctant to ttc again and not at all eager to try for a daughter. He has his two sons and is happy.

I've taken two days off from exercise after having a very crappy day and also having some major cheats...hoping this will 'reset' my motivation. I'm terrible at sticking to anything long term.

Good luck to us all. :) :) :)

[essnce629]

b'smommy-- HUGE congrats! Hope it sticks and enjoy your breakfasts and snacks!

laVieEnRose-- I still think you have a good chance of this being a sticky bean. My best friend bled a lot (like a regular period) at both the 4 and 8 week mark (so when her normal periods were due). Her DD is now 7 years old!

And my cousin didn't find out she was pregnant till she was 8 weeks along because she said she had a regular period as well. Her DS is 1 now! So stay positive! Have you taken another test today to see if it's still dark? Or maybe buy one of those Clear Blue digital ones that tell you how many weeks pregnant you are.

I'm not TTC this month (back on the mini pill) but will cheer everyone on as well. We're waiting till May till try again.

[girliedreamz]

dreaming – I’m feeling the same way! After falling “off the wagon” around Valentine’s Day, I’m having the hardest time getting back on. Or getting on and staying on.

I’m still on the fence about TTC this month. I know, I’m almost out of my window, so I better decide! The thing is... my brother’s girlfriend announced yesterday that they’re having a “surprise” baby. I’m super happy for them... but it really put me in a foul mood for me. I’m picturing her having a chance girl and me swaying my booty off and having another boy. (Okay, I love all of my boys, so not the end of the world... but this is really, truly my last baby, so if it’s a boy, I’m not getting my girl dream.) I guess in that case I just want to know that I did ALL I possibly could have done. And this month I’m just not feeling like I stuck to the diet and exercise enough to feel that way.



Quick question does anyone hear have two smiley opk days and if so which one do you BD on?? I have been on the first but I see that as O-3 with my years of charting just wanting to up my chances for April xxxxx

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I did this month! Honestly in past months, I’ve stopped testing once I got a smiley. But this month I kept at it and got 2 smiley days in a row. Not sure which one to count, but I’m guessing #1? Of course, I didn’t DTD that day... that was Wed so if it was THE day I may be out this month.

[maidentomother]

no he didnt suggest an alternative, i dont think he really knew about this area of medicine... he kept saying that my period might come soon (like he was hoping it would so I would go away). He said that once we had blood tests then we would know whether I needed to see a gynacologist.

willing to see what the blood test shows.

Oh, he was definitely hoping you would go away. I know that type!

I find it can be worse if you know a lot, as some drs feel threateneded by knowledgable patients, as if we're challeninging their authority. It is an ego thing. To be fair, I do tend to know what I want/need and have little patience for drs who aren't willing to agree with me.

But some drs are perfectly okay being told what to prescribe, especially if you show them research, suggest a specific plan of action. What kind of dr is this guy?

I do know babies can come any time and both I and my brother were early ( 2 and 1 weeks respectively), so fx. I am terrified of being overdue and having a huge baby...but then I am scared of labour as is!

b'smommy, huge congrats! So exciting to see all these BFPs! :) That is so cute about your early cravings and how DH knew.

kitkat, O-2 has the best odds if conception, and IME with 2 days of positive OPKs O can happen 1, 2, 3 or more days after the first positive. I would attempt at the first one if you have no other signs to rely on.

[SamS_TTCPink]

WooHoo b'smommy!! Congrats. 😀


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[maidentomother]

Maidentomother , maybe you are one of these people that Vitex don't really agree with? How would you feel if you dropped it? Im sure your sway would be just as good. I am not expert of course but I do believe in 'signs' and listening to your body.

I've only been taking it a month...and like I said, the diet etc seems to be pushing O later an later. But I did stop taking it for now, and I will resume it once I finally O. If it were any other month I would be okay just waiting, but not this month. I do agree with you about listening to my body!

How are you feeling?

[Marika]

Congratulations B's mommy!!

[Arimethia]

Congrats to all the positives. I'm joining, April will be our fourth month TTC. I'm on CD3. We're probably going to try the once every four days timing this month as best we can, we're making a big move so we'll see if we can remember to BD, lol. Our sway may just consist of no meat this month. There's too much else going on!

[kitkat18]

Hey arimethia how you doing?? Sorry you are joining us AF arrived :(but happy you are going to ttc a wee Xmas parcel !! I'm gearing up for attempt no. 3 cycle day 10. Off for a romantic night sans kids for our wedding anniversary too excited!!
Thanks for everyone's advice regarding opks sticking to first positive !!
Lilith any update? You okay?
Anyone about to attempt? Xxxx

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[kitkat18]

Oops! I meant la vie en rose any update?

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[Marika]

Hi ladies,

Still torn between ttc in april or not. Partly because I wanna include exercise and also beacuse diet hasn't been great the last couple of days. Yesterday was really bad. Had dinner out with friends and the menu was really not LE-friendly. Ended up eating snacks (like crisps and dip) before dinner, and then had a fish soup with garlic bread. It was really full of fat and even if I only ate half of it I know the calories, proteins and fats went way over limits. Also had lots of white wine, smoked a cigarette (Can't believe it myself, I never ever smoke!! Must have been the wine plus I heard it's pink swaying :-S).

I will probably O in about a week and I don't know if it's enough time to heal the bad diet last days.

When will you ladies have your attempts?

[Pinkmeup]

Hi marika, I think you should try as I am finding that there really won't ever be a perfect month (well perhaps first month will), but it gets harder and harder to stick to and you have to allow yourself the odd treat now and then! I'm sure it is the general pattern and not one night that makes or breaks. If you are strict for the next week you can still be confident of a good sway. GL!

[SamS_TTCPink]

I agree, atomic said to me that there will never be a perfect month and it's ok! She said she has seen the strictest of sways still result in opposites. Cheats are also allowed and a few days won't undo everything you've done to date and will do from today to O. It's the long term that makes the difference.

Now I've got a BFP, of course I'm going through all the should I, could I, wish I had....but even if I had been "perfect" I'm sure I'd still be doing that! 😜 I also don't know how long I could have kept going with LE and all the supps and the rephresh etc etc....I just couldn't afford to! And DH was over being vegetarian and only doing cardio! 😉

You have to do what's best for you though. 💜


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[girliedreamz]

After all my waffling, dh took me out to a nice dinner last night, I had a wee bit to drink, and we ended up dtd. So... I guess I'm in the 2ww this month after all. :) Not sure if it was to late to catch an egg, though, so I'm just going to focus on ttc in April and keep up with the exercise this month!

[maidentomother]

Yay girliedreamz. Hope you had a nice dinner!

[lfc_sarah]

I got AF for March so I'm here now.

Hello to everyone and congratulations to B's mummy and anyone else who has got a BFP xxx


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[kitkat18]

Marika I agree with the others those cheats are little sometimes its unavoidable better to just write off as a cheat day!! And try and get back to normal the next day xxx I'm onto my third attempt after conceiving both boys first time could be my age as well five years older at 35 but its taking longer than I thought it would and the reality I might be here for six months has sunk in!!
Girliedreamz so glad you just made an attempt go nice dinner and wine!!! Fixed you get a BFP
Sorry you are here Sarah but happy to see you!!
Just realized we would be having a new year baby if we did conceive in April!!
Good luck anyone coming up to attempt xxxxx

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[WillowsGirl]

I'm sorry to all the BFN, hoping April is the month for you.

we had an accidental unprotected attempt last night and I got a positive OPK today...so I guess we'll just leave it at that and hope for the best. Silly me I looked up my due date and I would be due right on Christmas!!

Easier said than done but I try not to worry about the cheats and just start over again. No worries. Wishing you all the best. :)

[laVieEnRose]

Oops! I meant la vie en rose any update?

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No news yet. Had another bloodtest on Saturday and waiting to hear back tomorrow. Still spotting so prob not good. I just need to know for sure and then move on. I hope it won't take too long for my cycles to get back to normal.
Have had a few cheats and a girlie nite out to cheer me up :-).
Not sure in which thread I 'belong' but will stay in this one and hope we can attempt very soon again.

I hope everyone had a lovely weekend. Xx

[SamS_TTCPink]

Fingers crossed girliedreamz! Sounds like a good night, what a lovely DH. ❤️❤️


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[WillowsGirl]

No news yet. Had another bloodtest on Saturday and waiting to hear back tomorrow. Still spotting so prob not good. I just need to know for sure and then move on. I hope it won't take too long for my cycles to get back to normal.
Have had a few cheats and a girlie nite out to cheer me up :-).
Not sure in which thread I 'belong' but will stay in this one and hope we can attempt very soon again.

I hope everyone had a lovely weekend. Xx

Aww I still have hope for you! My friend bled horribly for a month straight in her pregnancy and now has a healthy one year old...a girl too. Hope you hear good news tomorrow.

[kitkat18]

Good luck la vie en rose! Keep us updated tomorrow!! Its a horrible position to be in fixed its a sticky bean xxxxx
Willow congrats on first attempt!! It sounded nice and relaxed x

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[kitkat18]

P.s saw the BEST motivation today matchy match mummy/daughter outfits so over the top but super cute none the less they were very stylish and cool! Sigh....
Xxx

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[stephk]

What kind of dr is this guy?
He is just a regular GP. Hopefully it wont be him I have to deal with when the blood test results come through, hopefully it will be a more senior and helpful doctor.


I do know babies can come any time and both I and my brother were early ( 2 and 1 weeks respectively), so fx. I am terrified of being overdue and having a huge baby...but then I am scared of labour as is!

Dont be scared of labour or a big baby. Babies will come when they are ready and the difference in weight will be negligible if one week 'overdue'. My son weighed 4.23kg, was a week 'late', I had no drugs and an easy labour and birth (thanks hypnobirthing!) I know everyone is different and all labours are different but I truly think that you will have an easier time if you are less scared. I was petrified but doing the hypnobirthing and the relaxation tapes made me realise our bodies are built to do this, your baby knows what to do and if you just go with what is happening you will be fine - and remember that most of us here are TTC our 2nd, 3rd or more, we wouldnt do it again if it was that bad :)

[maidentomother]

Thanks steph! It's strange, on the one hand I feel I'll be fine, as there is no reason I can't have an easy birth, and I even plan on a home birth. I think the fear is irrational, leftover from childhood. When I was 7 my brother was born at home and I was there, watching my mum groan. She claimed it didn't hurt...she also claimed getting my period and losing my virginity should be painless, and both are/were super painful for me. So based on that I am expecting labour to be most painful of all!

I do love hearing birth stories like yours (though all births even c/s interest me), especially for first children. I know it's easier the second time around. I definitely plan to look into hypnobirthing, wonder if it works on people who can't be hypnotized?

[laVieEnRose]

My hormones have dropped in the 500s so its over for this little bean.
Last blood test tomorrow to monitor levels.

Gonna stick around with you girls, although not sure if we can attempt this month yet.

Just wanted to say thanks to all of you for your kind words and support.

Xx

[laVieEnRose]

Thanks steph! It's strange, on the one hand I feel I'll be fine, as there is no reason I can't have an easy birth, and I even plan on a home birth. I think the fear is irrational, leftover from childhood. When I was 7 my brother was born at home and I was there, watching my mum groan. She claimed it didn't hurt...she also claimed getting my period and losing my virginity should be painless, and both are/were super painful for me. So based on that I am expecting labour to be most painful of all!

I do love hearing birth stories like yours (though all births even c/s interest me), especially for first children. I know it's easier the second time around. I definitely plan to look into hypnobirthing, wonder if it works on people who can't be hypnotized?

Like Stephk, my 3rd DS was 4kg3 (9lbs7) and he did come out just fine lol

I have had my 3 babies at home and it was wonderful. It does hurt for sure but if you are able to learn the process of birth and understand the 3 stages, it isn't as scary as it sounds and as some tv shows/documentaries portrays it. You'll be fine. Your body knows exactly what to do. You will just need to 'let go' and ride it through ;-)
Not sure that hypnotherapy would work if you cannot be hypnotised but could be worth a try if only for the relaxation techniques xx

[Rosie85]

So sorry to hear about the levels Lavien. Hopefully you get get right back to it. Will be thinking of you!

[Rosie85]

I am thinking now I will O in april which is great news! I am expecting it to occur on the 28th or 29th! Looks like I will likely be attempting with you ladies. It is going to be a long month of exercise and diet. I do have a lot to look forward to though with Ds3's birthday party and Easter!

[girliedreamz]

So sorry, LaVieEnRose! :(

maidentomother – my 1st ds was the easiest birth for me, so some people DO have easy first births! I had him at home, no meds, 3 hours and he was out. Easy peasy. ;)

[dreamingofwin]

Im sorry to hear that levienrose :(

Lots to catch up on ladies. Lots of is gearing up to O!! I am so gutted not to be trying but know its the right decision. Cd7 today so hopefully this cycle will fly by and I get another shot at the end of April!!
I am back on le now properly to loose the 5lbs I've gained. I think im going couch potato route now though as I just can't get motivated for exercise :(

Xxxxx

[LilithWiser1979]

Oh, laVie! I'm sorry! Hugs!

maiden, I will not say it didn't hurt. It did. But it was NOT the worst pain of my life! It felt like a bad period (didn't know I was in labor for the entire night!) and the pushing him out definitely felt like the "ring of fire" it's rumored to be. However, my first birth, with pitocin and in the hospital, was SO much worse, pain-wise, and I had an epidural! Be forewarned, most anesthesiologists have a hard time with epidurals when you have scoliosis. Mine took 30 minutes to get in because he kept missing the spot and I kept involuntarily jumping when it felt like electric shocks up my spine.

I may POSSIBLY have a BFP, so, no offense, I hope not to join you guys here :)

[dreamingofwin]

Possibly?????


Maidentomother I am the same as you. Although I already have a son it will (hopefully) be my first natural birth. I have never even had a contraction! My son was breech so I had an elective c section. Not to be sniffed at and not an experience id like to repeat even though I could have another if I wanted to. I am also more scared at the thought of birth this time!! x

[kitkat18]

Sorry la vie en rose that sucks. Hugs!! Hope you have lots of support I had a chemical a while back and I was really down about it thinking of you xxxxx

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[LilithWiser1979]

Yeah, possibly. It's a REAL squinter (so light that I won't bother to post a pic) and the test itself was bent, so it took almost 25 minutes for the pink "fog" to clear up so I could read it. It could very well be an evap line. I'm not holding my breath, in any case, but I am a bit more hopeful!

I'm 9 dpo right now.

[kitkat18]

Sounds promising lillith x

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[WillowsGirl]

LaVieEnRose you are in my thoughts, so sorry to hear that. :( Hoping you don't have to wait long to try again.

So do you have a BFP Lilith? I'm curious now!

I've had two natural births, the second one I used hypnobabies and I definitely recommend it. My labor was so relaxed and peaceful. I'm hoping for a home water birth this time around. I second that thought that if labor was that bad, a lot of us wouldn't be here trying again! :)

Now that the attempt is over I'm so nervous! Hoping I don't see AF's ugly face in April! :)

[Marika]

So sorry La vie en rose :-( Thinking of you!

Lillith - wow, that sounds really promising! You just have to take a new test tomorrow and post a picture! :-)

[maidentomother]

Lavie, I'm so sorty to hear that. I so admire your positive attitude, and I hope this loss means you get pregnant all the more easily when you next O.

Thank you for sharing your experiences with me! I just love hearing about home births. And 3 of them is just awesome! (Though any birth is amazing.)

Rosie, I am excited for you to finally try. I have read the A/M/J sway thread and I know you've been planning for ages.

Girlie, that gives me hope! OMG, I hope I'm like you! I can only imagine how fast your next birth will be.

dreamingofwin, I'm sorry you won't be trying this month but I am optimistic that your dr visit will have good results. Would you like to try clomid? I think it's awesome you're considering a VBAC.

Lilith, thank you for your honesty. The worst pain I've ever experienced was the sounding for my IUD. They shoved this thick rod up my virgin cervix. :( The second worst pain I've had has been due to menstrual cramps. I've had 3 times that were so bad no amount/combination of high dose opiates/tranquilizers helped and I just vomited/cried/screamed for hours. Yeah, that bad. I will not be getting an epidural. One bc of the scoliosis issue, two the side effects, three I'd rather have IV opiates if possible. I've heard of nitrous/laughing gas being used and wouldn't mind that either. So your first was induced? I will definitely consider induction if I go late. I have heard pit is awful though. I'm sorry you had to go through that.

What brand is the IC you used?

Willow, yay for another happy birth story. How I wish I could be hypnotized! It sounds like we will be testing around the same time. Do you know when you Oed exactly/have a guess?

I did an attempt 3 hours ago. I'm starting my O pain right now so hopefully it works out timing-wise. Looks like my EDD would be Sagg/Cap cusp.

[WillowsGirl]

Maiden I tested OPK this morning and was negative, so I'm assuming it was yesterday sometime. Cross my fingers we both get a BFP :)

[LilithWiser1979]

Ooh hope this month is your month, maiden! I was induced because my water was leaking, but not broken. I've since learned that midwives just give you a pad and take your temperature every 4 hours if this happens, they don't jump to the drastic measure of induction! Ugh, I'm healed now that I had my amazing waterbirth with DS2, but I would LOVE to erase DS1's birth from my memory! It was traumatic.

The brand of IC I'm using is Blue Cross? I have no idea. They were super cheap, and came bundled with OPKs. My afternoon test came out negative, but I'm going to wait until tomorrow's POAS to come to any conclusions :)

[essnce629]

maidentomother-- I've had 2 home water births as well! LOVED them and couldn't imagine having a "dry" birth LOL! My first was actually easier than my second. From the first contraction till the birth was 9 hours, but the first 8 hours were completely painless and I continued on with normal life! I had my first intense (transition) contraction 55 minutes before DS1 was born! My midwives arrived just 10 minutes before he was born and at that point I was already 10cm! He was born in 2 contractions (head, then body) and the first thing out of my mouth was "wow, that was easy!" So you can definitely have a great first birth! I think being at home and in the water (and having an intact water bag till I was fully dilated) is what made it so easy for me. I did Bradley Childbirth classes when I was pregnant with DS1 and HypnoBabies for DS2. You don't have to be able to by hypnotized to do HypnoBabies. They teach YOU how to put yourself into a state of deep relaxation. With HypnoBabies, you are able to walk around, talk, and change positions all while remaining in hypnosis. As a doula, I recommend Bradley for first time moms (because it covers sooo much info) and HypnoBabies for subsequent births.

LaViEnRose-- I'm so sorry about your loss. I hope the spotting ends and that you can try again soon. (((HUGS)))

[Arimethia]

I had a home birth, I wanted a water birth but my second decided to come 2 weeks 6 days early! The tub was one our midwife passed around to her clients and the people who had it called us the day he was born after he was out. Lol I literally had no diapers and had just barely got our home birth kit delivered. Plus my labor was only 3 hours long with my second so not much time to get a tub filled. I'd love to do it at home again, it was so blissful to be home!

[stephk]

Thanks steph! It's strange, on the one hand I feel I'll be fine, as there is no reason I can't have an easy birth, and I even plan on a home birth. I think the fear is irrational, leftover from childhood. When I was 7 my brother was born at home and I was there, watching my mum groan. She claimed it didn't hurt...she also claimed getting my period and losing my virginity should be painless, and both are/were super painful for me. So based on that I am expecting labour to be most painful of all!

I do love hearing birth stories like yours (though all births even c/s interest me), especially for first children. I know it's easier the second time around. I definitely plan to look into hypnobirthing, wonder if it works on people who can't be hypnotized?

My periods can be pretty bad but I would say that the contractions I was having were no worse than period pains. The pain stepped up after my waters broke but even then, it really wasnt as bad as I would have thought. Even when DS was coming out, yes that was the most painful bit but I remember thinking that I had read about a ring of fire and I didnt feel like I was on fire if that makes sense!

I do think its a good idea to look into it even if you cant be hypnotised as the relaxation tapes are so lovely, I used to listen to them every night before I went to sleep and I went into such a relaxed state. If only there was a similar tape for TTC!

LaVieEnRose - so sorry to hear :( - hugs to you

Lillith - sounds really promising, everything crossed!

[laVieEnRose]

I have just had a call from hospital to say my my hormones levels from this am blood test show they are up again to same level as last week. A consultant is going to call me back. They kept asking if I'm feeling ok - which I am (or was until they ask!). I'm a bit confused now and a bit scared. What is going on? It's really torture - I'm not hopeful for a baby but am a bit anxious to know tht all is ok and won't need any intervention . Will update as soon as I know more

[WillowsGirl]

Hm that is strange. I'm sorry you're going through this.

[WillowsGirl]

Oops double post

[marriedmomof2]

laVieEnrose sorry that you are going through all of this I hope that you will have your answers soon

[maidentomother]

Lavie, maybe twins implanting at different times, and you only lost one? I hope you find out what's going on soon.

Steph, I so appreciate hearing about your experiences. For all you ladies, does excitement to meet bub help you power through the birth, especially as a FTM? I know for me personally, I tend to have more abstract fears, but when I'm actually in the moment of truth I deal just fine, usually.

I keep waiting for Lilith to post! 10DPO is the day most early testers will see a positive.

In other news, I didn't get a temp rise today - I got a temp DROP, ruining my so-far perfect chart pattern. I guess it must be the Vitex. Still having O pain though so maybe it's a stubborn eggy...ugh, desperate to have my post O chicken cheat!

My cat has been super snuggly. She is a love as is but was practically glued to me yesterday. Usually she splits her time between me, DF, and her chair, but for some reason she was all about me. Hormones, maybe?

[stephk]

LaVieEnRose I am so sorry to hear of what you are going through and I hope you do not have to wait long to see the consultant. Fingers crossed it will be positive news.

maiden - yes the excitement does help, also by the time you get to that point you are so over being PG, you want your body back and you dont care about pain you just want that baby out and in your arms! I used to see it as pain with a purpose, yes its not a picnic but the pain is brining your baby to you. In fact one of the affirmation is something along the lines of with every contraction, it brings your baby closer to you, or something like that.

[LilithWiser1979]

Wish I had good news to report. Sigh. BFN this morning. Yesterday's had to have been an evap line. I'm all crampy and waiting for AF now. Ugh, guess I'll be joining the TTC in June ladies :(

[Arimethia]

"Pain with a purpose"

I would say that's exactly it. I would say my second labor was more painful and intense than my first because it was so much faster, 3 hours instead of 6. And I had those definite waves of contractions the second time, the first one was mostly back labor and felt all over the place.

The sensation is like throwing up but throwing down, if that makes sense. Everything in your body is saying out, out, OUT, so that's really your main focus and like throwing up, it is a huge uncomfortable relief once the baby is coming out, I had all these plans about going slower once I started pushing but that went out the window, I honestly didn't even care if I tore as long as the baby was OUT, lol.

[stephk]

Sorry to hear Lilith :(

[essnce629]

LaVieEnRose-- so sorry that you still don't have any clear answers. I still have hope for you though!

Lilith-- sorry about the BFN, that sucks. Was it with first morning urine? I know that some women get better results with second or later urine.

[girliedreamz]

Sorry, Lilith! :( BFN is never fun, but I know you were really hoping for this month. Any way you can convince/bribe/nag dh into next month?

Still keeping my fingers crossed for some good news for you, LaVie! Keep us posted!


[QUOTE=maidentomother;553800Girlie, that gives me hope! OMG, I hope I'm like you! I can only imagine how fast your next birth will be.
[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I can only wish. :) My ds#2 was a 36 hour labor...so the opposite of #1! Really hard, really rotten experience, but we did have a home birth so at least I had the comfort of home to go through the rotten labor. Ds#3 was a water birth at home, and while I'd like to say it was better than #2... not so much. Lol! My labors have gotten harder, not easier, but that's totally not the norm. I'm actually thinking I'll go the hospital route next time around. I've had the natural experience--and when it was good, it was really good!--but I'm ready for the pain meds now. ;)

[LilithWiser1979]

Yeah, it was first morning urine at 10 dpo. I know other women don't get their BFP until later, so I'm trying not to be too negative. Ugh, we'll see. Evap lines suck! They are confusing and lame :(

[WantingPink]

Lilith what tests are you using? Are you having any symptoms? The type of tests make a big difference. Just FYI I am a crazy tester. Starting 8 dpo morning and night. I know exactly when I ovulate (I can feel it) and I have tested with several different brands. FRER is definitely has the most sensitive test. You can get a positive at 10 dpo but the pos is so faint it will make you think you are going crazy. Most other brands you really do have to wait until 12 dpo to see anything. 11 DPO and you should see something good on FRER.

Also, do your "second" morning urine. You will get a darker line this way. Basically go pee first thing in the morning and then don't drink anything, wait about an hour and test on that urine. It is much more concentrated and it has worked for me both times to see that line.

I read your blog and I was in the same situation you were with DH not wanting anymore kids. I had to beg, plead, and nag for 2 years!! I am really hoping you get that BFP!! GL and FX for you!!

[LilithWiser1979]

Thanks for the advice, WantingPink! I will try 2nd morning urine tomorrow. I'm 10 dpo today (although, not completely positive of my o date, I never get definitive o symptoms.) I'm using internet cheapie FRERs. They are babi brand, and are supposedly sensitive to 25 mIU/ml. However, after reading the reviews, I see that people have had issues with the tests being expired or not working properly from this seller! Now I wish I'd looked at the expiration dates of all those tests!

I am cramping right now, so there's a possible symptom. We'll see tomorrow.

[WantingPink]

Oh no Lilith... that is the worst. I had some crappy IC 25 MIU tests also this last time I tested. The thing I noticed with them is it would take FOREVER for the line to come up. So here is something else. Hold on to that test once you test. Don't throw it away as a negative until you test again. I made the mistake of tossing mine after about an hour. Then I testing again the next day and got a faint positive. Went digging in the trash and sure enough... super faint positive from the day before!! I was a little pissed to say the least!! I use to get some IC 10 MIU tests that were AWSOME but they quite making them. The 25 MIU ones work but they just aren't as good. The dollar store and Walmart 88 cent tests were just as sensitive.

[LilithWiser1979]

I did dig them both out of the trash (yesterday's confusing one and today's) and they are identical super faint lines, which is why I think they're evaps. I kind of want to try the IC 10mIU/ml ones, but I guess I have a couple of months to worry about buying them. The ones I already bought will just have to do for now, UGH!

[WantingPink]

I did dig them both out of the trash (yesterday's confusing one and today's) and they are identical super faint lines, which is why I think they're evaps. I kind of want to try the IC 10mIU/ml ones, but I guess I have a couple of months to worry about buying them. The ones I already bought will just have to do for now, UGH!

Post pictures!!

[Rosie85]

I agree, post some pictures! If a faint line showed up on todays it could be a positive.

[LilithWiser1979]

OMG! Trying to take a pic of the SUPER faint line on the last 2 tests has to be the most frustrating 15 minutes of my life. Ugh, I tried! It seems that my iPhone's camera can't focus on it or adjust the color to make the line as visible in the pic as real life!

I'm pretty convinced it's an evap, though. I saw pics online of what those look like, and mine looks pretty damn similar.

Update tomorrow!

[essnce629]

Good luck tomorrow Lilith! Sounds promising!

[stephk]

Everything crossed for you Lilith!

[Marika]

Hoping you get that line Lillith! :fx:

[dreamingofwin]

Any test yet Lillith???

This cycle is killing me. All signs that I am gearing up to O!! Its so hard not to be using opks and getting ready to attempt. Esp as hubby said well if you want to try we can, you'll know if its right arghh! I am sure once I am past O ill be glad we waited though. I still have another 3 lbs to get off from the weight I gained and my appointment is a week tomorrow so just concentrating on that x

[lyngostar]

That must be awful letting this cycle pass without an attempt dreaming. But you know that it's for the best for your sway.
I've just started my 2ww. I'm actually feeling pretty good about being in the 2ww. My cycles are so long that it's been 3 weeks from af to o so now I'm just happy knowing that we had our attempt and I could be pregnant. :fx:

[laVieEnRose]

Feeling very sad as diagnosis is ectopic in right tube :-(
I have been given choice of drug methotrexate or surgery. The drug seems very hard core and so I have opted for surgery. I'm devastated as I will only have one tube left and also will have to wait for a few months before starting ttc again ...going to stop the diet for now as feel I need to get some strength back in my body.
Sorry to bring this cloud to this lovely thread. Pleased to hear about BFPs!
GL everyone xx

[marriedmomof2]

Oh no laVieEnrose... I am so sorry to hear that. I hope that all goes well with the surgery and you are in my thoughts (and prayers). I can't even begin to imagine what you are going through, I am so sorry.

[WillowsGirl]

Feeling very sad as diagnosis is ectopic in right tube :-(
I have been given choice of drug methotrexate or surgery. The drug seems very hard core and so I have opted for surgery. I'm devastated as I will only have one tube left and also will have to wait for a few months before starting ttc again ...going to stop the diet for now as feel I need to get some strength back in my body.
Sorry to bring this cloud to this lovely thread. Pleased to hear about BFPs!
GL everyone xx

Im so sorry dear, I hope you heal quickly from this. Thinking of you! xx

[kitkat18]

Sorry la vie that's devastating news sounds like the right decision to take some time out, heal body etc thinking of you hugs xxx my mum conceived me with one tube so you still have plenty of hope

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[stephk]

LaVieEnRose - I am so so sorry, will be praying for you. Definitely the right decision to take a break in that case and give your body some nourishment. Hugs to you x

[dreamingofwin]

I am so sorry to hear your news. My thoughts and prayers are with you xx

[Rosie85]

So sorry to hear Lavie, how devastating. Please take care of yourself. Sending all my best.

[LilithWiser1979]

Oh no, laVie! I hope you're all right! Please take extra good care of yourself. Hugs!

I'm cautiously optimistic that this one is a BFP:

18026

Thanks for the "2nd morning's urine" advice, WantingPink! That bottom stick is a 2nd morning pee, and the top is a regular FMU. I'm still freaked out a bit that I've had days of super light, questionable +'s. Does that mean a MMC? I won't really be confident until I get a nice, dark BFP. I AM only 11dpo, though, and the tests I bought had LOADS of complaints about taking a long time to resolve, so hopefully this really is a REAL BFP.

I did my morning workout anyway, just in case :)

[LilithWiser1979]

Oh, also, I don't know if you can tell in this pic, but the line is definitely pink not grey. Supposedly evaps are grey, but I'm no expert. That's just what I read online.

[dreamingofwin]

I say huge congratulations you're pregnant!! Mine positive loose like the bottom one so I did a digi and it said pregnant 1-2. Could you buy one of those??

Ladies been looking at stats updated. Cal/mag has good results? Thoughts? Also bd through O has good results? X

[stephk]

Looks like a positive to me! Congratulations :) xxx

[marriedmomof2]

it does look positive... congrats lilth

[essnce629]

So so sorry LaViEnRose! Sending you lots of strength and healing vibes for your surgery and recovery. (((HUGS)))

And CONGRATS Lilith!!! Looks super positive to me! I used the same kind of tests with DS2 and my 11dpo tests looked just like that. Day 12 was definitely a more obvious BFP.

[angielorna]

Feeling very sad as diagnosis is ectopic in right tube :-(
I have been given choice of drug methotrexate or surgery. The drug seems very hard core and so I have opted for surgery. I'm devastated as I will only have one tube left and also will have to wait for a few months before starting ttc again ...going to stop the diet for now as feel I need to get some strength back in my body.
Sorry to bring this cloud to this lovely thread. Pleased to hear about BFPs!
GL everyone xx


I'm so very sorry to hear of your loss. So painful....emotionally and physically. Sending out hugs to you...

Angie

[girliedreamz]

Oh, LaVieEnRose, I'm so sorry! Big hugs to you, and I'll be thinking of you while you take the much needed break from all of this to recover.

[dreamingofwin]

Just had a chat and decided to have an attempt this month eekk!! I am cd9. Am I stupid? I still have 3 lbs to loose that I gained and not taking any supplements this month. Hubby just took some LR but that's his first ones this cycle. Nervous but don't want to miss out and want a normal diet back x

[WillowsGirl]

Congrats looks like a BFP to me!!

Dreamingofwin I'm not sure about cal mag but it seems the advice Atomic gives now is to so one attempt at positive OPK, and that this has consistently gotten good results. I don't really look at the chart so I just take her word for it. :)

Today I could've swore I felt a hint of nausea a few times. I must be nuts to think symptoms would come this early.

[SamS_TTCPink]

Thinking of you laVieEnrose. Make sure you take the time to rest and recover and take some time to do something nice for yourself. Let us know how the surgery goes, and sending you all my get well wishes. 💜💜


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[SamS_TTCPink]

How exciting dreamingofwin! Our attempt month wasn't perfect but Atomic says no month ever will be and to attempt! Goodluck! 😊


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[SamS_TTCPink]

Lilith...it looks positive to me!! My BFP was very faint at 11DPO too. Congratulations are in order I think!!! 🎉😊


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[Arimethia]

LaVie, so sorry to hear! That is a bummer. Rest up, treat yourself and cry as much as you feel to. That plain stinks. :-(

Congrats, Lillith!

[Marika]

La vie en rose - I am so so sorry to read this sad update. :-( Big hug to you!

[stephk]

go for it dreaming! if its meant to be it will happen :)

[Arimethia]

You guys, what outfits/stuff have you bought?
I have one neutral and two girly winter outfits. I also bought a girly crib set YEARS ago when it was on clearance at Target. I loved it so much I figured I could use it for something even if I never get a girl. It was this modern farm set from dwell studio. So cute.

[WillowsGirl]

I have some stuff that was mine as a baby. A dress and a blanket. I always hoped to pass it on to my daughter some day.

[LilithWiser1979]

My BFP is darker today, so now it's really sinking in. AAAAUUGGGHHHH!!! OMG, I hope this one's a pink bean! I guess this is the part where I start freaking out that what I did wasn't enough? I just posted my sway, which went according to plan, but I still feel like there was something more I could have/should have done. Oh well.

I make my kids adult-length quilts for their first birthday. I want them to have a blanket they could conceivably take to college, so no baby-cutesy fabric themes. DS1 has a green one that is plant-themed, DS2 has a blue one that is ocean themed, and I bought all the purple fabric to do an astronomy themed one for the DD I hope to have.

laVie, I hope you're doing better today.

[Rosie85]

Lilith I can promise you there isn't anything more you could have done! I have seen your sway! You should feel great about it.

Last night I made a purchase. It is the cutest ever baby girl clothes! They are pink and polka dotted and the pants have ruffles on the little butt. I really hope it will be for my dd but if not I will give them away. They were pretty much free with my coupon so that's good and I don't feel guilty!

[dreamingofwin]

Yey Lilith!!

I have nothing baby girl wise. My sis in law is due a girl in June and I was looking for clothes for her but had to stop as I got a bit upset thinking id never buy things from that section for a daughter x

[b'smommy]

Congrats Lilith!! Awesome news, I hope you have a pink bean in there :) How exciting and especially that you didn't have to wait until June to TTC!! :)

Laveinrose - I am so very sorry to hear about what you are going through, my heart just aches for you. :( I had a MC last year and it was so difficult. Good luck with your surgery and I hope the recovery is quick. I'm thinking of you.

I just caught up after a few days on here. I also wanted to post an update about my bfp at 11 dpo. I had blood work done that day and hcg was 40, I had blood work done again at 15 dpo and it jumped up to 426 and progesterone was 28.6!! So, not only did it double twice but it really went up!!! I'm so excited. My doctor said the results were very strong. I have an ultrasound scheduled for 7 weeks. FX it is sticky.

I feel pretty good about my diet, I stuck with LE for 5 months and pretty much never cheated. I typically only ate right at the lower limits (or even lower sometimes) but jumped up to the upper limits right around O, I had this crazy hunger that started around O and never went away, I am still incredibly hungry, I don't remember this extreme hunger early on when I was preg with my ds. Atomic had me bd every 4 days since I was on clomid and then an attempt at pos opk. So I bd on a thurs and got a pos opk on sat and bd again that night, doc thinks I o'd sun. I just took baby aspirin, folic, fiber and clomid. DH stated taking OLE 2 weeks before attempt. You always feel like you could have done more, but I feel pretty good about my sway.

[WillowsGirl]

Congrats b'smommy! Five months on the diet sounds great.

[girliedreamz]

Not stupid at all, dreaming – go for it!!

Yay, Lilith!!! SO happy for you!

I have baby girl stuff stashed all over the house. Booties, the cute little knitted outfit you see in my avatar (yes, I actually had to buy THAT exact hat and diaper cover outfit. Lol!), a little pink baseball outfit for out home team, some dresses...it’s an addiction already.

[SamS_TTCPink]

Yay Lilith!!! 😊 I have been freaking out about gender too since my BFP and all the what if's but we can only do what we did and now fingers crossed!!
So excited for you. 💜💜


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[angielorna]

So I'm officially in the 2ww, I guess. It's hard not to dtd again to increase the chances of pregnancy...in the past when ttc'ing, we'd keep going and going.... Aggghhh. Dh just asked me if I felt pregnant :P (we had our attempt last night). What a character!
Angie

[SamS_TTCPink]

Yay Angielorna. Fingers crossed you get that BFP!
My DH was the same, he would have had me take a test the day after our attempt! Lol!


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[kitkat18]

Dreaming of a win I think you made the right decision!! I'm so happy for all you ladies out there getting BFPs but boy is it getting hard for me as time goes by....i just want it so badly now at least its kind of curing my GD!! No baby girl stuff for me I'm trying hard to assume its a another boy and be surprised :) good luck to everyone in 2 ww xxx

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[sweetdream]

Everyone with BFP congrats!!! how great! lots of BFP's the past 2 weeks!

I'm sorry I'm not very active. I'm pretty busy. And trying to distract myself. Been a it Ill too.
I'm 2DPO now. and keep fingers crossed..
Hopefully I've done well enough thouhg I don't feel confident.

[SamS_TTCPink]

I don't think any of us feel like we've done enough, but fingers crossed sweetdream. 😊💜


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[maidentomother]

Lavie, I am SO sorry. I had an ectopic and while I didn't lose anything (it was on my primary ovary, not in a tube), I'm wondering now if I'm not getting pregnant bc of unseen damage and perhaps it would have been better to have surgery and lose that ovary, which would kick my other ovary into action. Long story short, I think you made the right decision to have surgery and I hope we see you trying again in not too long.

Lilith, huge congrats! I am very excited for you, and feeling a bit smug on your behalf - I'm glad you got pregnant right away considering your DH's attitude. :D

dreaming, I'm glad you're attempting this month. When do you expect to O?

AFM, I still have not Oed. :( Or, at least, I've had no temp rise. This is definitely the longest it's ever taken for me to O. I'm on CD28 - usually the last day of my cycle. Still having intermittent O pain but not the constant 3-6 hours that I normally get. I've been off Vitex for 7 days, too. I'm not sure I will do any more attempts as my potential DD will be between Dec 24 and New Years, the worst timing I can imagine. I have decided not to try again until June/July and I may even go HT since I have to wait anyway.

I have two trash bags of my baby clothes, most of which were made by my mom, and a bunch of British children's books that I loved. I hope I get to use them! Many of the clothes are unisex and were also worn by my brother, but there are some cute dresses, too. I love theidea of the purple astronomy quilt, Lilith - actually, all the quilts sounds awesome. I'm not a big fan of babyish items.

[Abifasc]

Hi ladies, I hope you all are doing well! Af came today so we're officially starting ttc this month. I'm going to back off here for a bit so I don't obsess over every little thing. Hope we all get our girls!

[LilithWiser1979]

Oh, maiden! I hope O comes soon. Vitex really messes with some of us. I know I can't take it because I get REALLY long cycles, too.

Would you do HT is the US? I know they don't do gender selection in the UK.

[dreamingofwin]

I should be getting darker opks by now. I am cd11. My last few positives have been cd12/13! Strange as I've dropped vitex so expected it to be earlier if anything. Will just wait and see x

[WillowsGirl]

Quick question ladies, what does AFM mean? I'm still getting used to all these acronyms.

[lfc_sarah]

Sorry laVieEnrose :( xxx

Congrats Lilith xxx


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[Abifasc]

Quick question ladies, what does AFM mean? I'm still getting used to all these acronyms.

AF= aunt flow (period)

[sweetdream]

So sorry bout your bad news lavie! I wish you all the strength and best.

[SamS_TTCPink]

Hi ladies, I hope you all are doing well! Af came today so we're officially starting ttc this month. I'm going to back off here for a bit so I don't obsess over every little thing. Hope we all get our girls!

Yay! Goodluck for this month. Hope to hear that you get that BFP. Have fun, relax as much as you can and fingers crossed for you. 😀


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[girliedreamz]

Good luck, Abifasc!

dreaming...have you thought of DTD every 4 days? I had a total crap time of pinpointing O last month (even with a +OPK!), so if I get a bfn this month, that’s what atomic suggested might work well for me next try. Essentially, it’s still 1 attempted in the fertile window, so it should have good girl juju.

Fingers crossed for all of you in the 2ww! I’m on cd25 today. I figure I have about 3 more days before I become obsessive about symptom spotting. :)

[Abifasc]

Yay! Goodluck for this month. Hope to hear that you get that BFP. Have fun, relax as much as you can and fingers crossed for you. 😀


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Thank you very much. Congrats on your BFP!

[SamS_TTCPink]

Thank you! 😊


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[Marika]

Hi ladies,

I am finally joining in for christmas baby. Have been so torn between attempting or not but last night we did and today I got a super strong +opk (knew it was coming, had strong line plus ewmc). We didn't do fr this time but dh realeased in the morning as well (on his own), would that be good or bad?

Took antihistamines 4 hours before bd and will take some today if noticing any ewcm. It just makes me so tired though, I slept for 12 (!) hours to night! Fell asleep at 9 pm and while dh took kids up in the morning I just couldn't get myself awake! I am taking Cetrizine and it shouldn't be like this as from what I've heard.

When I woke up this morning Dh had a fever, so only thing bad about bd last night is that It would have been better now, due to his sickness. Not sure he would have agreed though.

GL to all of you!!

[maidentomother]

Marika, can you buy chlorpheniramine where you are? That's what I take and it doesn't make me tired...cetirizine does, though, even though it 'shouldn't'. Try 4mg at first, you can up that to 8mg if it doesn't dry you out enough. It only lasts 4-6 hours so you do need to redose fairly often.

Willow, AFM = As For Me

Lilith, yes, I will go to HRC in SoCal. I badly need to get some stuff from my house in NC and ship stuff over, so really I should make a trip ASAP. Unfortunately it's now too late in the year to ship my wine collection over, but I can go over in Nov and spend the Winter in the US. Although if I want to do a FET in Dec/Jan I guess I should cycle well before then...if so I will try to get at least 4 high quality embies of each gender and I'll feel set for life. I guess I can use a sperm donor with ideal sperm, too, if I go that route...or at least one of my American friends.

It would be nice to cycle sooner in CZ (closest option) but after all I've read on the HT board, HRC really seems like the way to go.

At least I got to eat lamb last night! There's no point in me continuing the diet and in fact, low carb is best if I go HT. Atomic did recommend I start there, not sway, if I have a strong gender preference, while I'm still under 35 (just turned 33).

[Marika]

Maiden - thank for advice. I looked for chlorpheniramine (Klorfeniramin here) but it doesn't seem to be sold anymore (since 1985?!).

I'm just glad it's saturday so I don't have to be at work this tired. Noticed ewcm now so will have take another cetrizine soon... :sigh: Better tae the kids outside then and bring some coffee to stay awake :-)

[dreamingofwin]

Maidentomother, please excuse my ignorance if you have said this, but why do you need to use a donor? I can see from your profile you are ttc no.1. Hope you don't think I am rude for asking! x

[girliedreamz]

What have learned from symptom spotting: apparently I have PMS for the entire 2 weeks from O to AF. I never paid much attention before, but I’m on an emotional roller coaster and my boobs hurt like heck the entire 2ww. (TMI?) It’s no wonder women haven’t taken over the world yet. Half the time we’re hormone-nutty.

(I say as I have a huge business deal coming up and I’m supposed to be working on acquisitions all weekend but somehow my browser keeps going either to this forum or to the cute pink baby girl clothes on the babies r us site. Sigh. I need chocolate...)

[Kayla*pink]

:HH::HH:Hey Ladies!
I think we are finally ready to join the christmas babies! I am soo worried i have not done enough.. Trying to stick with this diet is soo hard and i have been getting so confused with when to dtd. Has any one had success with o + 12 method? When are you all planing... Should i try before my positive opk and the after o day? ... This is my last try for a baby girl and i really want to do the best sway i can! Maybe i should wait until next month... AF will be over tomorrow so i still have a couple days to figure me plan out a little more!
Any advice would be very much appreciated!

Congrats to all the BFPs :HH:

[angielorna]

I forgot how annoying the 2ww is. Ugh, I already want to start my poas addiction and I'm not even sure if I've o'd yet!!! Strong opk on Thurs am (dtd wed night). I'm prepping myself for BFN... Not at all confident But I'll test a gazillion times between now and AF anyway :P
Angie

[SamS_TTCPink]

:HH::HH:Hey Ladies!
I think we are finally ready to join the christmas babies! I am soo worried i have not done enough.. Trying to stick with this diet is soo hard and i have been getting so confused with when to dtd. Has any one had success with o + 12 method? When are you all planing... Should i try before my positive opk and the after o day? ... This is my last try for a baby girl and i really want to do the best sway i can! Maybe i should wait until next month... AF will be over tomorrow so i still have a couple days to figure me plan out a little more!
Any advice would be very much appreciated!

Congrats to all the BFPs :HH:

One attempt only at positive opk and that's it! Goodluck!! 😊


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[dreamingofwin]

Looks like Vitex could have been helping me ovulate. I am cd13 today and its my first month off all supplements and there is no sign of O. Hardly even a faint on my opks. I've gone from not attempting this month and being so chilled to doing loads of opks stressing wondering where my + is!! I need to chill. I am telling myself the longer I take to O the further away from xmas baby would be born so that a positive!!
Now wondering if I will have O'd before thurs when I am at the hospital... xx

[maidentomother]

Dreaming, I'm a widow...and currently single. I have a friend here who wants kids who has been giving me his sperm, but he hasn't had an SA. So I imagine a proven sperm donor would be better. I have to meet the donor, though - I won't do anonymous.

How much Vitex where you taking?

[dollych]

Hi Girls,

Can I join?. We will be TTC this month after having a miscarriage last month :(
I feel Ok now and ready to start TTC again. I've Just finished AF, so going to start with the OPK'S in a few days and DTD just once at positive OPK again as it worked first time In jan :)
I've started back on the LE diet, but not as strict as before. I've only put a few pounds on since stopping the LE diet in Feb, so will hopefully will lose that before the attempt. DH started the LR again last week. I'm also taking fiber, folic acid and rephresh.
Good luck ladies xxx

[SamS_TTCPink]

So sorry for your loss dollych.
Fingers crossed that this month brings you a healthy sticky pink bean!


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[WillowsGirl]

Dollych I'm sorry for your miscarriage. :( I hope you find success this month.

I agree the wait does stink. I want to wait until missed period to test since I don't want to waste any sticks, but I may not be able to wait. I don't feel confident I'll get a BFP this month.

[LilithWiser1979]

I bought internet cheapies so that I could indulge myself with a 2X a day POAS obsession... and now I'm going to be going out to get a FRER from the drugstore because the lines are too light for DH to really believe them! I know it's a BFP, but I have to admit, a digital "1-2 Weeks Pregnant" on a test is SO much more satisfying than a faint pink line!

Good luck Willowsgirl, and everyone else in the 2ww! I was SO unconvinced I would be successful this month, but it CAN happen when you're a doubty-downer!

[maidentomother]

dolly, I'm sorry about your loss but it is great that you can conceive from the one attempt. I hope it sticks this time. I'm sure being post-miscarriage sways more than having gained a few pounds, so you have a good shot at a girl.

[dreamingofwin]

Maidentomother, I am so sorry for you loss. I cannot imagine. I hope you get your girl xxx

Dollych, I am also sorry for your loss. I think it was you that unknowingly put me onto this site from B&B in the GD section, you mentioned this website as I was talking about shettles I think. Hope it works quickly for you this time xx

I was taking 1000mg of Vitex and 300mg of SP. I have stopped them both this cycle. Strange as I thought id O earlier but guess not as there is still ahrdly a line on my opk :( xx

[maidentomother]

Thanks Dreaming. I'm sorry you aren't Oing earlier, I know that frustration!I never got a positive OPK but I got an almost positive 2 days ago. Now it has faded to almost nothing but still no temp spike though my temp has been rising gradually over the past few days. I don't feel like I've Oed but really not sure about anything at this point. Hopefully your cycle goes much more smoothly!

[kitkat18]

Sorry for your loss dollych hopefully you won't be here long :) ! Sorry maidenmother for your loss too what an amazing journey you are on its pretty cool to hear all these different stories from all round the world!! Xxx

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[chloe_dreamofpink]

Hi girls :-) I'm ttc a girl this month also. I've been ttc since Jan, had two chemical pregnancies so far, so it's been a bit of a roller coaster ride for us so far. Fingers crossed for this month to work out. My cycles are so off atm, I think I lost too much weight too quickly on the LE diet.
Sending my best wishes to all of you xx

[maidentomother]

Welcome chloe, so sorry for your losses. Fx for a sticky one this month.

I got my cross hairs today and have finally entered my post O temp range. Supposedly I'm 3DPO now and BD was 4 days before so there is a slim chance, I'm hoping I didn't O any later. DD would be Dec 26th in which case I pray to give birth at least a week early. I don't feel post O at all this month, other than creamy CM I have no signs.

[SamS_TTCPink]

Welcome Chloe.
I am so sorry for your losses. Have the drs given you any clues as to why you have happened to have 2 chemicals so far? What a journey to had to have to go through. xx

Hopefully this month is your month and you'll get that sticky pink bean! Fingers crossed for you.


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[chloe_dreamofpink]

Thanks girls. Congratulations on bfp mumofsix. Hoping so much for a little pink bundle for you!
And hopefully we can join the bfp club this month also maidentomother. :-)
I haven't been to the doctor. I'm Feb and march, I had very faint positive reading, then around period time, I started light spotting. Then a few days later it turned into heavy periods with a lot of cramping.
I have had two little boys, both times I fell pregnant with first attempt, so at least I feel like the change in diet etc is having an effect.. But I think this month I might need to drop a few things. I stopped RepHresh last month.. and i have introduced a little bit of eggs and some full cream dairy and fifish too. I lost 4kgs in the first few months of LE diet, and didn't have a lot to lose. At 173cm tall, and now down to 57kgs, I think it just shocked my body a bit.
Would love some advice & opinions on what you think I could do/not do to have more luck of bfp.
Xxoo

[angielorna]

Welcome chloe, so sorry for your losses. Fx for a sticky one this month.

I got my cross hairs today and have finally entered my post O temp range. Supposedly I'm 3DPO now and BD was 4 days before so there is a slim chance, I'm hoping I didn't O any later. DD would be Dec 26th in which case I pray to give birth at least a week early. I don't feel post O at all this month, other than creamy CM I have no signs.

I'm in the same boat! DTD 4 days before O...I started googling this morning to see what the chances are of pregnancy. It seems like way too long before to have been effective, but the stats say there is a good chance. Here's hoping! My EDD would be Dec 28 if we caught a healthy eggie :)

Good luck! Angie

[Rosie85]

angielorna- my ds3 was conceived with a 6 day cut-off. Granted it was multiple attempts leading up to that but still! Good luck!

[marriedmomof2]

Congrats on all the bfp's!! Sorry to hear about all of those who m/c. I am still just stalking this thread lol. haven't been on since last week and had to catch up.

[maidentomother]

Chloe, you could try baby aspirin if you aren't taking it already. Also, red raspberry leaf tea (drink 2-3 cups daily from AF-O) can improve your uterine lining. So both of those may help with implantation, if that is why you miscarried. However, the most likely explanation for such early miscarriages is a genetic (chromosonal) defect, in which case there's nothing you can do. They are quite common so I wouldn't worry too much at this point especially since you conceived two boys easily.

As for your sway, it sounds great IMO! I think adding in the extra fats is good and you can do the BA and RRLT that I suggested, personally I wouldn't change anything else since you ARE conceiving successfully, and most likely it was just bad luck.

Angie, while I'm sorry you didn't have better timing, it's nice to have someone else in the same boat! Our chances aren't great, I think under 10% but possibly more than 5%...and probably the biggest factor, other than sperm quality, is internal environment, especially CM. I did have a good amount of EWCM starting earlier in the day on insemination and for the next two days at least. Hopefully you had some, too (if only just up near the cervix, it doesn't need to be coating the entire vagina or present on your panties etc) and as a result, the sperm survived.

Rosie, thanks for your story! I did have insemination 6 days before, and 4 days before that....not sure if that will help at all, probably not but who knows. I too have gotten pregnant with a long cut-off before, and at least 2 of those times was basically a single attempt. However, that was before I started my sway and back then I had 1-2 weeks of copious EWCM, whereas now I have on a tiny bit for about 1-3 days!

[angielorna]

Angie, while I'm sorry you didn't have better timing, it's nice to have someone else in the same boat! Our chances aren't great, I think under 10% but possibly more than 5%...and probably the biggest factor, other than sperm quality, is internal environment, especially CM. I did have a good amount of EWCM starting earlier in the day on insemination and for the next two days at least. Hopefully you had some, too (if only just up near the cervix, it doesn't need to be coating the entire vagina or present on your panties etc) and as a result, the sperm survived.


Hopefully we both end up beating the odds with BFP's SOON! 2ww sucks. I had the EWCM the 2 days before and took an antihistimine but forgot the day we DTD. It seemed to have dried up (at least where it was evident, haha). Anxiously awaiting the time to test (truth be told, I already did once, knowing it would be a BFN, but couldn't resist!!!).

Are you waiting to see if AF shows before you test or are you planning to test earlier? I, of course, will test before AF is due. Hoping to hold out until 9DPO (then a few times 10 DPO, 11 DPO...and so on until AF rears her ugly face!)

Angie

[WillowsGirl]

Welcome Chloe, I'm sorry for your two chemicals. I hope this is the month you get a sticky bean!

Yay maiden in the 2ww with me! I hope you get a BFP this month! So sorry about your husband. :(

I'm a little frustrated today with a close friend who is pregnant. She has a boy and girl and is despairing over having another boy...because she wanted to do "girly things" and reuse all her DD's pretty dresses. And she knows how much I would give for just ONE daughter. I'm over here with two boys listening to her talk about how she doesn't want two boys. :(

[kitkat18]

Hey willowgirl, sometimes friends are a little inconsiderate:( a friend said the exact same thing to me and i turned round and said hey hello I have two boys!!! But this particular friend just found her DS1 more challenging than her DD so that was the reason why..
We are all in the same boat hugs!!

Chloe your diet sounds good increasing eggs, full fat dairy etc is what atomic suggested for me to, I'm on my third attempt and have little weight to spare!! Although its very upsetting getting chemicals you are still getting pregnant which is positive I have to keep telling myself there is only 20% chance per month and that's when you are young and healthy!!!
Not vintage, skinny with low cm!! Like me hehe
Xx


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[Kayla*pink]

Does anyone focus on ph levels?

[maidentomother]

Angie, happy to hear you had CM. It sounds like skipping the antihistamine on BD was lucky considering how the timing worked out. So if you are 4DPO today you have a shot at a BFP in 4-5 days! Exciting! Normally I start testing at 7-8DPO but this month I will wait until AF is due (11DPO) bc I am not totally sure of my O dats. But I might change my mind..

Willow, thanks! How many DPO are you? I think your friend is awfully insensitive - especially if she's supposed to be a CLOSE friend. Her reasons for wanting another DD seem really shallow, too. Would telling her how you feel help at all, do you think? Do you think she is intentionally trying to hurt you? I don't get why people act that way!

Kayla, most of us don't worry much about pH. I've checked my CM's pH at several points in my cycle, out of curiosity. It is 4.5 at all times except for 1-2 days right around O when I have a little EWCM. I take cranberry and aspirin when I see it (most people shouldn't combine these FYI). My donor takes cranberry daily starting a few days before insemination, too. I haven't checked pH since my second month swaying, though. I feel confident that the LE diet has changed my CM - dried and acidified it - significantly. Plus, it's best to avoid obsessive swaying!

[SamS_TTCPink]

Thanks Chloe, and again sorry for your losses. It would be so disheartening getting that BFP and then finding out it wasn't to be. And twice, just doesn't seem fair!! Maybe it all happened for a reason though and this month is just meant to be your month!! 😀

Atomic would be the best to give you advice on what to drop but I think adding those things back into your diet was probably a good idea and dropping the Rephresh. Are you exercising too? Maybe it's all just been too much for your body, especially with the weight loss when you don't really have anything to lose! I'm 9kgs heavier and cms shorter than you! 😜 I didn't really lose anything on LE though. My body just hangs on to everything! 😞

I think the baby aspirin in a good suggestion to if you're not already doing it.

Hopefully atomic will pop in and give you some advice but fingers crossed this is your month! 😊

[WillowsGirl]

Maiden I'm about 4-5 DPO today. :) Getting there. I agree it does seem quite insensitive, and I don't understand it. I just tried to emphasize how well my boys play together. I think they're pretty well behaved for their ages. :)

Chloe you may get a faster answer from Atomic if you make a new thread. I'm not sure she reads these ones too closely. I think what you've already done sounds like it will really help. xx

[Kayla*pink]

Angie, happy to hear you had CM. It sounds like skipping the antihistamine on BD was lucky considering how the timing worked out. So if you are 4DPO today you have a shot at a BFP in 4-5 days! Exciting! Normally I start testing at 7-8DPO but this month I will wait until AF is due (11DPO) bc I am not totally sure of my O dats. But I might change my mind..

Willow, thanks! How many DPO are you? I think your friend is awfully insensitive - especially if she's supposed to be a CLOSE friend. Her reasons for wanting another DD seem really shallow, too. Would telling her how you feel help at all, do you think? Do you think she is intentionally trying to hurt you? I don't get why people act that way!

Kayla, most of us don't worry much about pH. I've checked my CM's pH at several points in my cycle, out of curiosity. It is 4.5 at all times except for 1-2 days right around O when I have a little EWCM. I take cranberry and aspirin when I see it (most people shouldn't combine these FYI). My donor takes cranberry daily starting a few days before insemination, too. I haven't checked pH since my second month swaying, though. I feel confident that the LE diet has changed my CM - dried and acidified it - significantly. Plus, it's best to avoid obsessive swaying!

Thank you maidentomother! One less stressor for me to worry about! This site has been very helpful! I finailly feel luje we are ready to start our sway!
Best of luck to all of you this month!!

[dreamingofwin]

Exciting ladies who'll be testing soon!!

Wow that is insenstuve-id have to have said something!!

Got a + this morning!! Wooho! Hubby started cfr yesterday. Just reminded him to have one this morning and he said 'done it' he's a good one Haha! So attempting tonight!! Strange as its the strongest + I've ever seen and I've stopped the supps! I have loads of ewcm though so antihystamines for me today :) x

[stephk]

Good luck to attempting ladies and testing ladies :) I am still here cheering you all on. Cant wait to O and attempt also if it ever happens - hope you all get your BFPs before then.

Has been great to read everyones stories - maiden and chloe I am really sorry for your losses and what strong women you are to be coming back from them.

Willowsgirl - sometimes people dont think before opening their mouths, I am sure she didnt mean to hurt your feelings or be insensitive. We are all with you on this.

Today is blood test day for me, will be sneaking out of work to go to the docs as my boss is in a workshop all day so hopefuly no-one will notice a 60-90 minute absence haha. When they booked the test in they said it was at 11.15am and I must fast for 12 hours beforehand with only water, black tea and coffee allowed. Little do they know I do a daily 16 hour fast lol. Have also booked in for acupuncture on 23rd April with someone who specialises in fertility acupuncture, absent periods etc so fingers crossed this gets sorted soon.

[kitkat18]

Hey all dreamingofawin good luck I got my positive opk today too!! So we will be symptom spotting buddies fingers crossed this is our month we have both been at this for what feels like forever!!
Stephk fingers crossed you get some answers fertility acupuncture sounds great too I really feel for you beyond frustrating Xx

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[angielorna]

Good luck on your attempts, dreamingofwin and kitkat18!!!

I'm only 2-3 DPO. Ugh....the wait continues.

Doesn't help that I am completely obsessed with this site and check it 4-5 times (at least) a day when I'm supposed to be working. Dang work, getting in the way!!!

Oh, and DH called my sway "my swing" last night and made me laugh. Haha.

Angie

[marriedmomof2]

Steph, I hope all goes well at the doctors office. I hope they can tell you something
KitKat and dreaming good luck on your attempts!

[girliedreamz]

Good luck, dreaming!

Got my March bfn today. cd29, so I'm pretty sure it's a for real bfn and af is on her way. I'm okay in a way because I know last month was not my best sway, so I'm glad to get another chance to be a bit more strict this month. On the other hand, I'm actually sad I won't get my Christmas baby. :) It'll be a late January bunny for me if we can make a pink sticky bean in April.

Back to the elliptical with me while I wait for af. Ugh.

[WillowsGirl]

Sorry girliedreamz. :(

[dollych]

Thanks Girls for your lovely comments.
I'm sorry for all your losses xxx
Good luck to you all and sending pink dust your way. Let's hope April is our month!!! xxxx

[kitkat18]

Hey ladies almost in 2ww had our attempt last night! Really hope its my month third time lucky :)

Angie thank god for work or I would be on here all day im trying to do things to take my mind of it all! Renovations, watching movies at night instead of on here obsessing over my plan etc xxx

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[WillowsGirl]

Yay kitkat18! Crossing my fingers for us all!

[dreamingofwin]

Attempt was tonight so done all I can now. Wait for my temp rise hopefully Thursday. Also 3rd month for us although had a random attempt in Oct before putting it off again.
How many cycles are others on compared to your other kids? My son was a positive test 6 weeks after stopping bcp so not used to this wait...

Girldreamz hope you're wrong!! X

[flowerlily]

Hi ladies, may I join you?
I'm late and I think I Oed way later than I thought (10dpo or CD24) which hopefully makes me (7dpo) now, I'm trying to stop symptom spotting as it's driving me nuts but cant! :eek:
So, I will be testing every week just to be on the safe side. Oh the joys of being on BCP!
I so want a 2014 baby.
Congrats to all the ladies with a BFP!:)
Good luck to everyone who's tempting or waiting for a BFP!:)
Hope this is our month!:D



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[lyngostar]

I am also 7dpo and fighting my urge to poas. Lol. I haven't really had any symptoms. But with ds2 I didn't have any for a good few weeks.

[SamS_TTCPink]

How exiting kitkat18 and dreamingofwin!!

Fingers crossed that this is everyone's month!! 😀


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[momto4boyz]

I got my BFP! I actually got a faint line yesterday, but today looks more promising. 10 dpo. I only feel a little bummed b/c I didn't stick to the diet as well as I could. But, hey you never know, it still can be a pink bean!!

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/luvcatz3/frer3_zps90c2c544.jpg

[marriedmomof2]

Yayyyyy!!! Congrats momto4boys!!!!!

[SamS_TTCPink]

Yay!!! Congrats momto4boyz!! Another December baby on the way. Fingers crossed it's pink. 😀


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[angielorna]

I got my BFP! I actually got a faint line yesterday, but today looks more promising. 10 dpo. I only feel a little bummed b/c I didn't stick to the diet as well as I could. But, hey you never know, it still can be a pink bean!!

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/luvcatz3/frer3_zps90c2c544.jpg

Awesome! Congrats!!!

[angielorna]

I am also 7dpo and fighting my urge to poas. Lol. I haven't really had any symptoms. But with ds2 I didn't have any for a good few weeks.

Oh my, such will! I would have already peed on at least 3 sticks! At least I buy mine at the dollar store (same sensitivity as frer) and save my frer when I get my first hint of a positive!

[WillowsGirl]

I got my BFP! I actually got a faint line yesterday, but today looks more promising. 10 dpo. I only feel a little bummed b/c I didn't stick to the diet as well as I could. But, hey you never know, it still can be a pink bean!!

http://i299.photobucket.com/albums/mm288/luvcatz3/frer3_zps90c2c544.jpg

Awesome! Congrats!!!

[dreamingofwin]

Huge congratulations!!!! X

[kitkat18]

Yah!!!!! Mumto4boyz big Congrats!! Don't worry I'm sure every single boy sway mama thinks the same wish I could have done better that's why we all have boys lol !!! Xxxxx

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[kitkat18]

Dreamingofawin good luck! I just had my third attempt both boys conceived first time so yeah getting pretty frustrated....mind you I am five years older !! Xx

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[kitkat18]

Mumofsix thanks !! I soooo hope to join you and all December mummies in your new due date thread (when you create one) xx

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[maidentomother]

Momto4boyz, Congrats!

Girliedreamz, I'm sorry AF found you.

Welcome kitkat and dreaming to the 2WW. As for me, 5DPO and no symptoms at all...not even sore nips like I had the last two months. For me that is actually promising, but given my bad timing (4 days before O) I'm trying not to get my hopes up. I know I will be crushed to lose the last opportunity for a 2014 baby. :(

[kitkat18]

Fingers crossed maiden!! How many cycles are you on? X

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[kitkat18]

Sorry girliedreamz fixed for a 2015 baby xxx

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[stephk]

Congrats mumto4boyz xxxx

[lyngostar]

Congrats mumto4boyz!!! Lovely seeing so many bfps lately.

[flowerlily]

Congrats mumto4boyz! Fingers crossed for a sticky pink bean!:)

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[Marika]

Hi all!

Catching up for a few days absence and see that som of you have BFP:s!! Congratulations!!

I have gotten the flu of my life; haven't had this high fever ever as a adult I think. Between 39-40 degrees celsius (202-204 F) and it just doesn't go down, not even very much with paracetamol.

I started googling and it seems that high fever is not good during implantaton, it can increase risk of e g authism and other stuff. So I would really want to get fever down, but since we made an attempt before we fell sick I don't wanna take just any medications that are to be avoided when ttc.

I guess my body isn't really in optimal shape of getting pregnant right now, but if it wold attach (against all odds), I don't wanna ruin anything.

I am now 4 dpo so I hope that an eventual egg is still floating around for a few days, I tell myself it's ok as long as it is travelling around and not attatching. That would give me another few days to get better. Anyone know anything about this (fever/risks/medications etc).

Also haven't done exercise (of course) and haven't been able to eat more than a cup of yoghurt here and there during these days. The only thing I would really LIKE to eat now is cereal. I know thats a big nono for ttc girl, but if a bowl of corn flakes is the only thing I have during the day, would it still be blue?

GL to those of you getting closer to testing!

[SamS_TTCPink]

Mumofsix thanks !! I soooo hope to join you and all December mummies in your new due date thread (when you create one) xx

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Ok, I just started a Due in December 2014 thread in the pregnancy, due date buddies section! With all these BFP's and soon to be BFP's I figured we needed one now! 😊


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[stephk]

sorry to hear you are not well marika. On the cereal i think you should just have it - when sick like this you need to put your health first and you do need to eat something. If this is the only thing you can keep down then you should have it IMO. Its not like you are eating normally and then having cereal on top of that.

Hope you feel better soon