LE diet & carbs...

[myurkanin817]

I'm not sure if this was asked anywhere if it was I'm sorry... I know the basics of the LE diet but don't seem to understand how it's a low everything in regards to carbs. I don't see any number of carbs I should be eating & if I'm low in calories & want to drink a regular bottle of coke they have like 70 some carbs in them... So how is my body supposed to think times are bad if I'm taking in over 150 carbs per day...? (Just threw a high number out there I'm not really sure what's high with carbs) I do realize calories in & calories out... But maybe I'm just looking too much into it or not understanding it fully... Anyone's input is appreciated.

[daisymoo]

The le diet is all based around counting cals mainly and ignoring carbs. However it works, it just does. I was always a low carb eater before this diet and since I started this diet I have lost one and a half stone. No snacking and keeping blood sugar low is what tricks your body into thinking times are hard.


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[Rosie85]

Yes, the carbs are not really counted. It is low calories, low fat, low protein, low blood sugar and "lower" nutrients.

[myurkanin817]

Thank you both so much... Bc I have a recipe for two slices of bread or a soft taco & the carbs are out the roof lol... It just scared me I guess.... Thank you!!!

[Rosie85]

You are welcome! Enjoy the bread!

[myurkanin817]

Not a big bread eater LOL. Just a coincidence,....


You are welcome! Enjoy the bread!

[atomic sagebrush]

It's NOT low everything in terms of carbs. No one ever said it was.

Carbs have nothing to do with LE for most people anyway. It's NOT meant to be a low carb diet. I called it low everything because it's a snazzy name that people remember, but it's not literally meant to be low in everything. Carbs are fine and allowed for everyone in unlimited amount with the exception of people with blood sugar or egg quality issues. You have to get energy from somewhere, you can't exist on oxygen and crystal light. Some data indicates that getting more % of your food intake from carbs instead of protein, sways strongly pink.

150 carbs per day is NOTHING compared to what people normally eat. If you are limiting cals to 1500-1800 per day, for most of us carbs are going to be less than what you were eating to begin with. I'm not on LE Diet and I just quickly added up the amount of carbs I had today and it was like 400 g carbs and I havent' even had dinner yet.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you both so much... Bc I have a recipe for two slices of bread or a soft taco & the carbs are out the roof lol... It just scared me I guess.... Thank you!!!

If you are on one of the alternate PCOS diets then you may not be able to eat that many carbs, but you can still eat a good amount of them, just pick BETTER carbs.

[myurkanin817]

No pcos or anything... Just the carbs scared me that's all.. I know I'm doing the recipes I'll be eating next week and I'm all used up on my fat & protein but my cals keep staying around 1000. So I need to add some foods that just have calories :)

[atomic sagebrush]

In the Dream Members LE Diet section, there are two threads that will help.

quick fixes for diet disasters
100-300 cal snacks and meal completers

[myurkanin817]

If I was to eat 1500 cals per day can u give me a recommended amount of carbs protein & fat...? The alternate LE diet has me a little confused bc I wasn't expecting to be on it so I didn't read into it at all. I want the best sway possible. If u want atomic u can reply in the private thread. Doesn't matter to me. Thank you! :bowdown: :hide:



If you are on one of the alternate PCOS diets then you may not be able to eat that many carbs, but you can still eat a good amount of them, just pick BETTER carbs.

[atomic sagebrush]

Does this help?

Source - http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/9052-swaying-under-special-circumstances-part-3-pcos.html

When swaying with PCOS, insulin resistance, have a significant amount of weight to lose (more than 30 lbs), or are having trouble losing weight on the "crash and burn" style of LE Diet (this may be a sign that you are a bit insulin resistant), empty carbs are not going to help your sway. They may in fact harm your sway by sending your testosterone levels skyrocketing (other people would see T drop on the "crash and burn" style of LE Diet).

So if you fall into one of these categories, you need to change the proportions of protein and fat to carbs (cutting carbs overall in favor of more protein and fat) and get most, if not all, your carbs from small amounts of whole grains and fiber-rich fruit and vegetable (fresh or lightly cooked is much better than canned/well-cooked). This is what we call the "slow burn" style of LE Diet.

How does this work?? Protein and carbs have the same amount of calories in them - about 4 calories per gram. Fat has 9 calories a gram. So by getting more protein and more fat, you make up for any caloric deficit that you would incur by cutting back on carbs somewhat, and yet you are still sticking within the overall limits of LE Diet in terms of calories. Don't just cut out carbs, you'll starve that way! Remember, no one should ever drop below 1200 calories!! Also keep in mind that low carb vegetables are free for everyone on both types of diets - you do not count them for calories, fat, or protein and you can eat as much as you want.

Protein - increase to 50-60 g (up from 40-50 g) and if you are super tall and/or are working out a lot, you may want to even increase this a bit more. I would not increase over 70 g protein no matter what and if you're less than 5-10 (178 cm), I would not increase above 60 g unless you are exercising a lot.

Fat - should be at upper limits for calorie intake, so 30% of your calories from fat. On a 1200 cal diet this will be about 25 g fat, on an 1800 cal diet this will be about 60 g fat. Please make an extra effort to get the majority of your fat calories from Omega 6 and transfats as described in this essay The Skinny on Fats for pink and blue!

So while a traditional "crash and burn" type diet would look like this (and please try not to get too hung up on the numbers, this is really just ballpark for illustration only):


1500-1800 cals Roughly 1000-1500 cals are going to be from carbs, depending on the amount of calories overall and the proportions of protein/fat you are eating. These carbs can be in the form of empty white carbs but can also include small amounts of whole grains and also fruit and higher carb vegetables.

40-50 g protein 160-200 day's cals from protein

25-60 g fat 225-540 day's cals from fat
(and while you might wanna try to get more Omega 6 fats, if you're eating low fat in the 25 g range, it becomes less important to do this, and in fact you may need to make some effort to get at least a bit of saturated fat to ensure you continue ovulating.)

The "slow burn" type of diet would look more like this:

1500-1800 calories Roughly 750-1000 cals from carbs and these carbs will all be in the form of whole grains, fresh or lightly cooked fruit and higher carb veg with lots of fiber to help with insulin resistance
(and while I rarely LIKE to see anyone drop to 1200-1500 calories, some gals with PCOS/IR may benefit from this low a caloric intake at the beginning - as the weight comes off, insulin sensitivity will improve and you can increase calories at that point)

50-60 g protein 200-240 cals from protein, and if you're tall and/or are working out a lot, you can up this as high as 280

60 g fat 540 cals from fat
(and if you can get primarily Omega 6 fats, that's going to help your sway a lot - you don't need to worry about getting any Omega 3 or saturated fat, because your protein foods and the Omega 6 fats will have a little bit in them and that will maintain ovulation)

Wow that was a lot of writing and mathematical equations there! I know, I know, very confusing. So, here is a simplified version LE Diet I made for custom swayers with PCOS/IR - while it's not going to be right or necessary for everyone to be quite this strict, it will help you kinda envision what a "slow burn" type of LE Diet is going to look like.

(Where it says "eat X number of times a day" that means you eat that amount that many times per day. It's like the Weight Watchers points system - you can have 2 or 3 servings at one meal or 1 at 3 meals or however works the best for you. You do not, and in fact shouldn't, be eating 5 times a day on any form of LE Diet. On the "slow burn" style LE Diet, it can be very beneficial to your insulin response to have a nice long fast period up to 16 hours every day with no food coming in and this also seems to sway pink.)

[myurkanin817]

Yes. I was looking at it I think last night. :highfive: Thank you!!