New year babies !!TTC Pink in May

[daisymoo]

PrimalMamma Your French is excused lol!!!
Steph I'm going nowhere It's great to have other swayers to chat too! Are you back to the rain yet?

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[daisymoo]

Lavie Enjoy that curry You deserve it!
And mumofsix that soup and bread sound way too healthy Bet you could fit a small curry in after that!

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[angielorna]

Ohhhh so jealous laVieEnRose! I said to DH tonight, I really want a meat curry from the best Indian takeaway/restaurant we have here. We compromised with LE and ended up with an entree serve of Dahl soup and a roti bread. I'm still starving and still want my takeaway curry! Lol! ��



You should have just had the curry :P But what you settled on sounds yummy too.

I have to say I'm at the point in my 2ww where I'm cheating and cheating large. The way I see it, if I am preggo this month, baby is conceived (I just don't know it yet) and has already been assigned his/her eye colour, hair colour and gender....and if I'm not, one cheat this many weeks before my next O is not going to impact a dang thing!!! I have a hard time reigning myself in during these few days. I still skip breakfast and usually red meat (tonight might be the excpetion), but otherwise, I cheat. (this post is going to come back to haunt me when I find out I'm pregnant with my third boy, isn't it???).

Am I the only one who times significant cheats during this portion of the 2ww???

Angie

[girliedreamz]

Oh, I'm with you, angie! I'm in cheatsville, too. It's so hard not to in the 2ww. I'm about 12dpo and trying to hold out a couple more days before I start testing. If I get a bfn on Mother's Day, man is that going to ruin my day. So, I'm going to enjoy it with my boys (cheaty, cheaty, cheat, cheat), then test on Mon. :) I've been having long cycles lately, so even that might be too early, but we'll see.

And, Rosie, so thrilled for you!!!!! I hope we see a ton more bfps this month.

[stephk]

Hi Angie - I have been cheating every weekend, its the only way I could do it. If I'd had some 2WWs I would have highly likely cheated then too :) I honestly think if we didn't cheat we would go mad so it has to be done.

And speaking of I tentatively think I might actually be in the 2WW!!! I just took an opk and it was a super faint negative line - I had lines getting darker and darker the whole time on holiday and couldn't test yesterday so I am wondering if yesterdays would have been my positive? What do you more experienced OPK users think? I will take another one tomorrow to be sure. Must try not to worry now about all the holiday eating over the past week but I am guessing my body needed that just to ovulate. If I had a positive yesterday then according to the test, you ovulate 24-48 hours following the positive so I must try to have a strict day today now. Hopefully the travel back hasnt delayed it so I think I should keep testing and keep BD just in case. We last BD on friday night so hopefully that is good timing?

[weeziewoozles]

I think you shouldn't even think of it as cheating. It's ALL about what you eat overall not what you have one day

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[loobylue]

Hi all, just popped on to see how everybody is doing. You've all cheered me up so thanks. I'm pretty much out this month now. Did a hpt and bfn as expected. Bloody spotting way before AF. Really wondering what my body is doing. My opks have been showing a line, no positive but they normally show nothing until nearer to O. Weird. Still finding this v difficult. Tried explaining to dh that it's like taking an exam every month and opening the envelope to find you've failed again. Anyway, don't mean to bring a downer on things. I will move on to next month but I have to say, I don't think I can do this waiting and only having one attempt for much longer.

Steph- great news you're in 2ww. I'll cross my fingers for you.

As for eating, I made tons of cakes this weekend and have been enjoying our new bread maker! I find being at work easier to stick to the diet. Just need to not pig out when I get home before we have dinner! Not that easy when the rest if your household is having after work/school snacks!!!

Whoops, think I've been such a moaner. Sorry, not intentional. Really grateful I have here to come to and know I'm not alone.

Xxx

[angielorna]

Steph -- yes, I think Friday would have been perfect timing!!! Good luck!!!
Angie

[Marika]

loobylue - what dpo are you at? Sorry you didn't get that positive.

I am also out. This cycle was such a roller coaster. I hear you Loobylue - you are so spot on comparing it with the exam!

I feel so bummed right now and I don't think my dh really understands how stressful every cycle is.

This time I had faint lines on a few sticks and today a quite strange result on the Clearblue plus, first nothing but then suddenly after 20 minutes a pretty clear line that is still there, fully visible and blue. But it is obviously not a real positive since AF just seems to have arrived. Googled clearblue and I am not the only one with false +. Even if I didn't trust those faint lines fully I did get my hopes up, so today was a tough day.

I am also thinking about what to drop - maybe FR? I didn't take antihistamines this time and will skip it next month too. Also skipped and pretty much only did diet, one attempt, j&d (will skip I think), drinking wine (will not skip, are gonna have a glass right away!), OLE for DH, folic.

Not much more to skip than J&D and FR release right? Really wanna get pg now!


Steph - Sounds very likely that you did o!! Yay!! Finally in the 2ww! Fx for you! Hope you had a fantastic trip, that relaxation is just so great for your sway!

[girliedreamz]

Oh, I so hear you on the failed exams! One reason I'm not testing early this month... not sure I can handle the failing again. If it's a bfn for me this month, I might take a few months off. It's so stressful trying to lower fertility without lowering *too* much...which is just the opposite of how we want to be feeling when TTC a girl, right? What a catch 22...

[Kidandcatmommy]

Hope everyone had a Happy Mother's Day! I enjoyed eating too many calories and am ready to start fresh tomorrow! Going to attempt to channel a chilled out, low calorie eating, cardio lovin' mama for the next few weeks until next attempt!

[stephk]

You guys are so spot on with the exam analogy, it really sucks!

Looby please do not worry about coming and saying your true feelings here. This is what it is for, I have also been prone to lots of moaning and then worrying about it but we need to get out our feelings otherwise we will go mad. Your feelings are totally valid but this is probably the only place we can spill everything and no-one will judge. With the one attempt, are you BD every 4 days or are you using an OPK and waiting for the positive? I had decided to BD whenever and then once at positive OPK as we cant do the every 4 days thing, it puts too much pressure on. Only problem is I am not great with OPKs either lol. Remember that bread is good for LE diet so you can indulge in that guilt free :)

Marika - so sorry to hear the issues you have had with the sticks and AF coming. Its awful that we spend all this time getting our hopes up. DHs do not understand what we go through month to month, even if they want the baby just as much. For some reason they can be more relaxed about it. I think you are right dropping FR and J&D because together they may be lowering sperm count too much. You are DEFINITELY right keeping the wine ;)

girliedreamz - its such a fine line between lowering and lowering too much and of course everyones body chemistry is different so we just dont know how much is too much either... maybe a month or two off is what you need, if you have time to spare (not vintage like me lol)

happy mothers day to those of you celebrating it, hope you got spoiled :)

yes I am back at work now (boo) we arrived at gatwick at 2.15am yesterday, had to wait 2 hours for our luggage so we finally got back home at 5.30am yesterday morning. Had about 2 hours sleep and then spent the day unpacking and chilling and trying not to eat too much. But I did start the day with cake leftover from the holiday and then ended the day with 2 massive pieces of birthday cake that DH brought home from a party! Was surprisingly easy to exercise this morning :)

[PrimalMamma]

I feel so so so SO lost. And really flat & miserable & dare I say depressed. I feel like nothing I do will be enough. And like the biggest failure. My body is screeching for protein (I normally eat paleo) and I have no energy to do any exercise. My fitness has taken the biggest dive since starting this & I'm just so hungry & miserable. And I don't know what I'm really meant to be eating as I'm waiting on my Personalised Plan. This week I will ovulate so I realistically have 4 more weeks before we start TTC... I'm scared & I just want some structure while trying to remain relaxed (as don't want to stress myself into the "boy zone") & trying to be patient as I know poor atomic has been moving which is an enormous & crappy job, especially with kids in tow. I just feel horrid.


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[SamS_TTCPink]

I feel much the same PrimalMamma, like nothing I do will be enough and I'm so over the diet. I also usually eat high protein and low carb and lots of healthy fats (missing my coconut oil and oats) and things like curries which are full of tomato, onion, garlic, coconut creams etc!

Your personalised plan itself doesn't have much more about the diet but the 21 day meal plan does (did you get that too?) but from what I've seen your eating looks ok. 😊

Remember there really is no banned foods and as long as your calories, fat and protein are low and you're not eating too nutritiously then you'll be fine.

Stir fry with low sodium sauces and rice, corn tortillas with veggies, rice and some beans are good, homemade pizzas on mountain breads or corn tortillas, bread (toasted sandwiches), mushroom soup, pastas with veggies cooked in butter or a little pesto & cream, fried rice type dishes are all some ideas and things DH and I have..

And I have a new found addiction to pop tarts!! 😉

It is hard to do all this knowing it's still no guarantee and trying to stay relaxed through it all too is impossible!! Have a nice warm lavender bath and a glass of wine and know you're not alone in your feelings at all!

xx

[stephk]

PrimalMamma - I am sorry to hear you are miserable :( from what I have seen on the what are we eating thread you look to be doing fine? How much protein are you allowing yourself? Although atomic recommends 40-50g protein, I found that too hard to stick to so I go up to 60g - remember that less is still less. If you were eating a high protein diet before you would have been in excess of 100g per day so if you go down to 60g it is still less. What protein do you miss? Is it specifically meat or other sources?

As mumofsix says there is a 21 day eating plan which will just tell you what to eat if you find that easier? Is the what we are eating thread helping at all as there are now a few posting so its great to steal ideas?

I promise it does get easier but then I have been doing this for a long time now...you will find yourself getting used to it but it takes time to fine tune, in the beginning I kept making mistakes and didnt know what to eat. The positives I have taken away is that actually I love veggies anyway and have found some new vegetarian meals and recipies which I really enjoy. I love eating and love food so I have just tried to maximise the salad/veggie eating so I will be filling up on 'free' food (especially free protein) so that I can use the allowances for other yummy things. Also soup is a great filling option if you like low fat veggie soups.

I constantly think that whatever I do wont be good enough - but to be honest there are no guarantees anyway, by doing this we may be getting ourselves to 60% or if very lucky 70% chance to conceive a DD so there is no point in worrying over the minute detail of whether you are over on something sometimes.

Also - make sure you have at least one day a week where you cheat and enjoy that protein!!! I try to stay in totals and vegetarian from monday to thursday then at the weekend I do my best but am usually over. I have been doing it too long to remain strict all the time. Atomic doesnt intend for people to be starving and miserable and you will get to a point where you can make it work for you.

[loobylue]

Hi all, thanks so much for your amazing understanding. It's such a rollercoaster all of this.

I'm at work so haven't got time to post a decent reply but wanted to say thanks.

Totally get how you're all feeling too.

Re diet - you all sound like you're doing well. I keep reminding myself of Atomics light switch v radio dial analogy. Although I think my radio is turned right down!!! It helps though.

Sorry this is short, work beckons boo!

Steph - hope first day back to work is going ok.

I'll try and check back in later. Xxx

[PrimalMamma]

Thanks for all understanding my little "Pity Party for One" lol. Stephk I miss meat & eggs. The problem is I have no self control when it comes to meat I can't eat a "little" steak I can eat a cow. I can't eat a little bit if chicken, I can eat a chicken. Well maybe not quite but you catch my drift. My old self would have at least 2 eggs for breakfast & then bone broth with more meat & veggies for lunch, lots of fruit to snack on & then a meat & veggies dinner (like a roast or corned beef or pulled pork or something). No grains, no legumes, very low carb. So as you can see I have essentially turned my diet on its head. I ate that way after years of depression, acne, irritable bowel etc & so not only am I struggling with the food I'm also emotionally struggling, my skin is breaking out so I feel ugly & I'm farting for my country (sorry for the TMI). I just feel disgusting. All of this is driving me to drink more... Yes I know alcohol sways pink but it also sways depression, hungoverness & general apathy. So yeah that's what's going on for me. Right now I feel like packing it all in & eating a steak but I know I will always wonder "What if..." If I do that & have another boy.


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[daisymoo]

Primalmamma I think if you really want a steak have one. One day is not going to ruin your sway. In fact it'll help you stay on le diet longer. If you are really struggling on the diet you could try the pcos version of the diet. It seems to be a little less carb orientated which might help you. Might be worth a try. You could also leave out the white carbs and just eat mainly low fat veggies and steamed rice etc. Sorry you're feeling down. If I was you I would take a huge cup of hot choc in to bed early and relax for the evening. Will do the soul a world of good. x

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[daisymoo]

Steph best of luck in 2ww Fingers crossed it's your month girlie!!!
Marika so sorry you're out I can't understand how you're out after the lines on those tests. Hope you catch the egg next cycle. x

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[stephk]

Primalmamma - i promise you it will get easier. Also there is no reason why the LE diet has to be unhealthy, you can eat your fill of fruit and veg. You said that you used to snack on lots of fruit - theres no reason why you cant have as much fruit as you want. You can also have eggs, in fact atomic recommends 4 eggs a week on the PCOS/fertility version of the diet. 2 medium eggs have 12g protein so its not difficult to fit them in if you really want them. Instead of the bone broth have a low fat veggie soup with some salad and more veg (although a bone broth probably doesnt have very much protein anyway so probably OK? you might want to check with atomic on that one). How about a veggie stew or chickpea curry - i have a great recipie which I posted on the what are we eating thread but it was a while ago, i can post it again if it helps?

regarding the meat/steak - give it to yourself once a week. Even twice a week would be fine. You will then be able to stick to the diet the rest of the time and really look forward to it. I have had steak on more than one occasion since starting the diet. Atomic says that cheating is mandatory on the LE diet. I cheat every single weekend.

[stephk]

Thanks daisy - to be honest I dont even know if I am in 2ww, I can only assume so given how the opks went. I am still testing just in case. I think either I would have got a positive on saturday, or I have a short surge and the positive would have happened around the end of last week and I missed it. Or I was gearing up to surge and my body changed its mind and I havent ovulated at all. argh i hate this!!!

[daisymoo]

Steph you never know how things work out. I think you're in with a great chance. I never got a surge from cd10 to cd24 and it worked for me! So who knows I'm keeping everything crossed for you!! :)

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[stephk]

daisy, it is your positive story that gives me hope - even if I didnt get PG hopefully I have at least ovulated :)

[PrimalMamma]

I chilled out a lot today. I decided to eat breakfast, & had a fried egg on toast. Heaven. Then I are vegetarian for the rest of the day but I didn't actually count calories. It was nice, & helped me relax. I've also decided to stop drinking alcohol. I know alcohol helps the sway but it's also empty calories. If I stop drinking I can eat more! And also - if I'm not drinking while sitting in front of the TV late at night it means my fast starts earlier & I can therefore eat earlier the next day! Genius I tell you. Genius.


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[Marika]

stephk - I think there is a great chance you did ovulate! Fx for you!

Primalmamma - you getting relaxed is great! It takes some time to get into LE and swaying. I don't say it's easy even after months, but it gets less stressful imo. I also try not to eat late at night just to be able to break the fast earlier the next day, thats a good way for us who find it hard not to eat until noon.

[Marika]

Marika so sorry you're out I can't understand how you're out after the lines on those tests. Hope you catch the egg next cycle. x

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Thanks Daisy, those lines (especially clearblue that was so clearly blue) confused me too. Made this cycle really a huge disappointment. I so wanna get pg now! Counting the days til next o! Also waiting for ob to call this afternoon, wanna to ask about the spottings I've had from 7 dpo these three cycles. Had a cyst in feb so I'll ask if there could be any correlation or so...

[girliedreamz]

Well, no New Years baby for me...af arrived today. :(
So frustrating. This was my last month doing clomid, which I really wanted to be part of my sway. But maybe it was keeping me form getting that sticky bean in the first place? I dunno. I dropped so much from my sway this month I hardly felt like I was swaying (except the clomid).

Taking a day to wallow in chocolate and carbs, then try to figure out what to do differently next month...

[angielorna]

I'm sorry you're out this mont girliedreamz :( Perhaps coming off the clomid will help for next month. Wallow away and good luck strategizing for next month.

Angie

[stephk]

sorry to hear girliedreamz - enjoy that chocolate hon

[essnce629]

So sorry to hear girliedreamz. I've been rooting for you! How many cycles have you been TTC now?

I'm CD9 today and will start my OPKs this afternoon! Finally something to do!

And my best friend, who has 2 boys and has been swaying for girl since November, just got her BFP yesterday at 12dpo!!! I've been telling her to join our thread but she won't! She did let me post her sway in the sway results section though! Her user name is Heidigirl3 and we've been best friends since we were 14! I hope I get to join her soon!

[daisymoo]

Ditto Enjoy the chocolate! Sorry you're out this month. x

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[daisymoo]

Hope you get some answers from ob Marika Swaying can make your body do strange things which is probably a good thing if it's the opposite of what worked before.

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[loobylue]

Really understand how you're all feeling. It's a constant rollercoaster. Marika - that's super tough and confusing with those sticks. Primalmamma - definitely sounds like you're approaching the diet in a positive way. Have you thought about any quorn type products as a meat substitute? Quite good in stirfrys and burgers.

Steph - it does sound like you have a good shot so crossing my fingers for you.

Now - here's an update to give you all hope (I hope). On Monday I did another hpt and I got a bfp!!! I did another this morning and it was the same. DH has insisted we get a branded digital one he trusts which I'm planning on doing tomorrow morning. Really hoping it all turns out ok.

I'm in total shock, you may not remember but my attempt was a bit of a disaster. I missed my +opk and so we bd when I has negative opk. It was first positive the morning of the day before. We also bd 4 days before positive. All being well and I am indeed pregnant it's a minor miracle. I've had what I thought was spotting before AF (usual for me) but it's all stopped now. I have a 33 day cycle so AF due on Saturday. Hopefully I'll get nothing.

Anyway, I hope this gives you all hope.

Please cross fingers for me that everything works out. I don't quite believe it yet. I hope I see those nice words on the test tomorrow morning.

[stephk]

Such fantastic news! Congrats looby!! I am sure you will see the magic words tomorrow - let us know!

[loobylue]

Thanks Steph - didn't know quite whether to say anything just yet. I know it's very early days but felt I should share as we're all on this rollercoaster together. I'll let you know what happens tomorrow.

[essnce629]

Congrats Looby! Sounds like a definite BFP to me!

[essnce629]

I Wonder if I'm going to O early this month. First OPK today on CD9 and this is what I got. I think I'll start taking 2 a day. With DS2 I got pregnant on accident cause I O'd early on CD12. I had just bought my first OPK ever and it was positive the first time I took it! I normally O on CD15 so we'll see. I'll take another one tonight.

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[Rosie85]

Congrats Looby!!

[girliedreamz]

Good luck, essence! You've got to be getting close!

Yay, looby! So thrilled for you!

This past month was #3 for me. On to #4... :)

[loobylue]

Thanks everyone. Did the digital this morning. All good, saw "pregnant" 1-2 weeks. :)

Still in shock!

[stephk]

yay looby such fantastic news, may has been a great month for BFPs so far and we are only halfway though :)

[Marika]

loobylue - Congratulations!! So happy for you!

[daisymoo]

Huge congrats Looby!!! Great news!!! :)

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[loobylue]

Thanks everyone. Feeling anxious as spotting a bit but I know that's normal. Never easy when it's you though.

Hoping to hear more good news as we all go along.

[SamS_TTCPink]

Congrats loobylue! After several BFNs this week, it's so nice to hear another positive!

[laVieEnRose]

Congratulations loobylue!!! Xx

[lyagirl]

Just got a really obvious pos on strip opk line was darker than the test line and then did a cb digi to confirm and came up neg?? I cannot miss this month what should I do?

[stephk]

Just answered in the other thread, but when did you last BD? I know if it were me i would BD today. But I want to get PG fast, been too long. Not sure how long it has been for you.

[lyagirl]

Thanks I did another test 3 hours later and got the smilie face so we bd. So attempt over. Is that it now then? One attempt? Feels odd

[Rosie85]

Yup that is it! Good luck lya!!

[essnce629]

Good luck lyragirl! We did our attempt last night too! On to the TWW!

[Kidandcatmommy]

OMG!!!!! Tmi but I had zero cervical mucus until yesterday had a little and then today lots so I tested an OPK tonight and I got a smiley face on the OPK ! So ovulation was just really late! Of course didn't test yesterday but was negative on Tuesday when my DH and I dtd late Tuesday night. Ugh now to decide whether we try again tonight or just count the other night? Eeek! I think I'm going to call Tuesday night our attempt since I was already considering this a lost month. So hard though when I really want to be pregnant. What do you think????

[o18e]

Congratulations loobylue Hopefully I will be joining the rest of you with your BFPs! Next week can't come soon enough!

[loobylue]

Good luck lya, essnce, o18e and kidandcat.

Steph - I've lost track of how many dpo you are. (I know it will be a rough calculation!!)

How are you all doing?

[Kidandcatmommy]

Congrats loobylou!

[stephk]

kidandcatmommy - if it was me I would definitely BD, but thats just me, been TTC for too long, am almost 36 so time is running out and need to be PG NOW. you dont know how long after the positive OPK you will O. If worried you could always do SET or J&D.

[stephk]

looby I really dont know, I am guessing if I did O, it could have been somewhere between last friday and monday? So anywhere between 4-7dpo. If i did O that is, since sunday i have had super faint negative lines on OPKs and given how dark they were getting towards the end of last week I am hoping that I either had false negatives on thursday/friday, or missed the surge on thursday/friday/saturday because I only tested once a day then couldnt test on saturday. We BD on wednesday and friday so if I did O in that timeframe at least I am in with a shot :)

[loobylue]

Steph - yes I think you covered all bases. Hope you're not going too nuts waiting it out.

[stephk]

you know, I am actually not going nuts. After that 95 day cycle I had which took symptom spotting to a whole new level, now I am like well I have done what I can do. I am reasonably confident I did O. I have had negative OPK tests all week and no EWCM since the weekend (so have been able to avoid BD haha!) - I am going to keep OPK testing just in case I didnt O but I am reasonably confident I did. Of course it doesnt mean we caught the egg and I will be gutted if/when AF arrives though!! Trying to ignore any kind of symptom as its too early anyway.

[daisymoo]

Steph I think you definitely ovulated and have a great chance of having caught that egg I have everything crossed for you!!!! The holidays and relaxing the diet a bit would have made a huge difference to your cycle. You could have that holiday baby yet lol!

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[stephk]

I think I needed the holiday eating and exercise break just to O! So if nothing else, I hope I caught the egg as I cant go back on that holiday every month (would be fab if I could though lol)

Think I might have nutella on toast tomorrow for my midday meal to reminice hehe

[daisymoo]

Mmmmm nutella on toast is just one of life's luxuries! :)

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[loobylue]

I can just imagine the symptom spotting during that time. We tell ourselves we're not going to, next min we're googling the most bizarre questions (or is that just me?)! Really glad you're not going nuts. Haha re avoiding BD!
:)

[stephk]

No it's not just you lol

Man I could eat a jar of Nutella right now....

[loobylue]

Steph - you're making me laugh. Shove some on a rice cake and voila! A diet friendly dessert!

[SamS_TTCPink]

Yum! I love Nutella!!

[stephk]

luckily there is no nutella at work i can wait until tomorrow - big cheat eating tonight :)

[essnce629]

When are you going to start testing Steph? I really think you have a good chance of getting a BFP!

[stephk]

I know I shouldn't until next Friday really but we will see. With DS I got my BFP 12 days after the positive OPK. I keep telling myself I'm not PG every time I feel something as I know I'll be gutted!!

[PrimalMamma]

Ok it is time for me to get serious! I have O'd for this month & will be TTC next month. We were almost going to put it on hold for a few months due to some changes in the Australian federal budget & we thought we may have been financially better off if our baby was born after July 1 2015 but as it turns out we won't be. So plans will be going ahead for TTC in June. I've been super slack this week on the diet front. Pretty low cal but as my husband has been between jobs (he starts a new one on Monday) he he has been doing the cooking & has had no idea how to cook for me. So I've been eating meat etc for dinner & last night we had apple pie & icecream for dessert 🙊 But it is back onto the bandwagon for me. I have decided to plan a cheat meal on Satuday nights & to be less strict overall at weekends but to be really tight during the week (which is fairly easy for me at work). I have my Personalised Plan now from Atomic so I'm going to plan my meals from that & I'm going to drag myself out of the doldrums funk I've been in for the last 6 weeks & get back on the exercise bandwagon.


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[stephk]

Ok ladies I am definitely out, AF has arrived so now I have a short LP to deal with....

Had LOADS of Nutella on toast, pretzels dipped in Nutella AND chocolate for lunch.

[SamS_TTCPink]

Bugger steph! 😞

We will have to be TTC buddies again next month (if my AF ever arrives!!)

[girliedreamz]

Oh huge bummer, Steph! :( Okay, we're June buddies. Maybe we should start a June thread soon...

Welcome, PrimalMamma! I love your weekend cheat idea. I may adopt that, too.

This month I think I'm just focusing on exercise and getting the dh ramped up enough to do every 4 days in stead of more like every 6 that we did this cycle. Either I'm not Oing at all (likely...the LE diet has been kicking my butt) or my timing with the OPKs is off and I'm just not catching the egg. (And I'm using the digital ones, so I have no excuse!)

[essnce629]

Sorry Steph that sucks! Next month has to be your month!

[essnce629]

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I think I screwed up my opk tests. I think CD9, 10, and 11 were actually negative. Yesterday's CD12 test lines were darker than the control then dried equal. That makes more sense with my normal O on CD15. Going to dtd tonight after last dtd on CD10. Hopefully that will still just be one attempt if I O tomorrow. Just started having O pains last night and today.

[stephk]

Essence yes that sounds like one attempt - good luck!

Mumofsix - if you are not PG it would be great to be a cycle buddy :)

I'm still eating Nutella and have opened a bottle of rose cava :)

[daisymoo]

So sorry af arrived Steph On the plus side at least your cycle is returning to normal Don't worry too much about short lp It can happen in some months while on the diet Last month I ovulated on cd17 (after I thought I had ovulated cd7 and cd11) and my af arrived on cd21 Now that's a short lp! I think the diet etc plays havoc with our cycles for a while Hopefully next month your lp will be longer. Hope you're enjoying that nutella!!!!! :)

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[daisymoo]

Best of kuck tonight essence!!!!!

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[daisymoo]

Of course I meant best of luck sorry!!!!!

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[stephk]

Atomic thinks it's still the remnants if coming off BCP and I tend to agree. I'm so angry with myself for going back on it after DS was born but what can you do. I thought I was doing the right thing at the time. She also wants me to have more full fat dairy and eggs so I'll do my best. You are right, things are going to be screwy. I just pray to god that it's going to be over soon. At least this situation is helping my GD because I really am past caring - if I'm not meant to have a daughter, so be it but please god I want another (healthy) baby

[daisymoo]

You will definitely have another healthy baby You eat so healthily as it is You put me to shame with what I eat! Hopefully the full fat dairy and eggs will do the trick next month.

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[stephk]

Let's hope so. I do eat really healthily in fact I've probably never been healthier. DH is always making stupid comments about what I eat but he only eats well when he eats what I cook! Haven't had a healthy eating day today but I'll be on track again from Monday :)

[daisymoo]

I always believe in huge cheat days when af arrives Good for the soul Enjoy!

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[Arimethia]

Hey peeps! Popping back up to say hello! I'm in the 2ww again, trying not to obsess too much as this is attempt number five and the roller coaster of attempts, 2ww and then testing has been wearing on me hard. Had some meat cheats, going to have sushi tonight, just relaxing. I plan on testing on the 22nd at the earliest, or wait for AF as constantly poas gets expensive! Hope everyone is doing well! Let's get some BFPs up in here!

[PrimalMamma]

Stephk if MumofSix is pg I will be your June cycle buddy! Lol. Good luck essence. And to you Arimethia with your 2ww.


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[SamS_TTCPink]

I'm not PG! Wishful thinking but I know I'm not. 😉

Goodluck essence!
And yes Arimethia we need some BFPs. 😊

[PrimalMamma]

Well we can all be June Cycle Buddies together then MumofSix x


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[stephk]

Yay June is where it's at ;)

[SamS_TTCPink]

Sure can PrimalMamma! AF just arrived so CD1 today!

[stephk]

Wow shame we won't O at the same time Mumofsix but I really pray it's our month! I realised this morning that DH is going to a boat party on 31st May which means he will be indulging in things he shouldn't :( when I told him it will affect his sperm he said well that's good for a girl isn't it.....I would still prefer he didn't do it but what can I do, I have to avoid arguing or worrying about it.

[SamS_TTCPink]

I should ovulate 2nd June! Can't wait now! This HAS to be our month! Went and got vitex and SP to start again today and ordered more opk's and HPTs. I saw a baby girl at the footy today and she was sooo cute! I want one so badly!! Also ran into my brother and his girlfriend at the footy who then came and sat with us. I couldn't believe it! 😠 The. I came home and was talking with DH about how they'll be married soon and PG and probably have a girl and how I don't want then to have the first granddaughter! And DH said "it's ok, you'll be PG with our daughter soon" 😊 He also commented that whether or not we have a daughter first or after them, that their daughter (or son) would be more "doted upon" anyway and that we just have to forget about what they all think. He is right but it's hard when it's my own family.

[SamS_TTCPink]

Hopefully your DH will keep TTC in mind when he goes on his party.

[stephk]

Hmmm he didn't keep TTC in mind at any other parties or when recently asking a friend to sort him out with special cigarettes :( even our friends who do the same thing were shocked. When we conceived DS he hadn't touched anything for 4 months even though I wanted it to be at least 6 months and he thought he deserved a medal. When we argued about it today he said well I have never cheated on you and I'm like Er I should think not!!! I can't believe him sometimes!

You know what - knowing what I know about your family, I also get the sense that whatever your brother has will be doted on more. I really hope that you get a girl first. And if not that they also have boys. Boys are beautiful anyway and they love their mums :) wouldn't it be funny if they also had a large family, what would your parents think then!

[Marika]

Hi all!

Have tried to catch up here after a busy weekend with not much time to read in here.

Sorry about those BFNs :-( And sorry to hear about arguments with DH and stupid comments from family.

My diet has been awful this weekend. Cake, cake and more cake. And wine, lot's of wine. From now to O I will have to be super strict.

Got some ewcm today but shouldn't o until end of next week, around saturday or so. A bit hard to tell exactly since I don't know when those spottings were considered to be AF.

I so wanna be pregnant now. My neighbor just told me they are having another baby and while I am happy for them it is painful at the same time. I really have to make myself smile but I also wanna cry and scream that I was supposed to have a baby too, two months before them but now I am here, struggling with a stupid diet and spottings and negative sticks.

I talked to the doc that checked my cyst in february and she thinks my spottings are linked to what caused the cyst and that it is all due to a hormonal unbalance (?) after last pregnancy. They told me to give it two more months, if I am still spotting then they will examine me more.

I know I have read that a messed up cycle can be good, cause that means somethings happening with the hormones, but since early spotting can make it harder to get pg I a am not very happy over this change.

Oh, I just wanna get this week over with and be able to make next attempt. Then the awful 2ww before it all probably starts all over again. Sorry for whining.

Hope you ladies have had a nice weekend!

[stephk]

Sorry to hear how you're feeling Marika, we can all totally relate and whining is totally cool here! Can the doctor not investigate now instead of prolonging your agony? The sense of time when you are TTC is totally different to when you're not, don't you think?

I have also been very bad with the diet this weekend, in fact I'm eating cake and drinking wine right now! :)

[SamS_TTCPink]

Men are so hopeless!!! And I think they all think they deserve a medal if they don't cheat on us.....uhhhh hello!! That just automatically comes with being in a relationship!! My DH almost left me for a much younger "bimbo" at his work and he gets so cross when I make commented about it when he has work meetings with her etc! I get "but I didn't leave" like it makes any better that he almost did!! And he doesn't get why I have such a problem about the fact that he still works with her!! 😠

[Kidandcatmommy]

Mumofsix sorry your family is being annoying. At least your husband was sweet about it though! Occasionally those DH's are sweet and say the right thing haha!

[Kidandcatmommy]

Oops mumofsix just read your lAst message I was referring to the "you will have your daughter soon" not the "but I didn't leave" comment! And I would be annoyed if my husband had to work with her too!

[SamS_TTCPink]

Lol Kidandcatmommy! I assumed you meant the previous comment. He can occasionally be sweet. 💜😊

[stephk]

lol well we can be glad not to be alone in the useless DH stakes then. Yes, to be fair to him he does have his good moments. I just wish he would realise he is 35 years old, a father and now TTC again...but there is obviously nothing I can do about it so I have given up trying.

mumofsix i would also have a problem if in that position, lets hope the bimbo gets another job and leaves

[lyagirl]

They're all useless its in the male makeup!

I'm in the tww now, dpo3/4. I hope I'm not over thinking it but I feel preg and have some typical symptoms I had before !

Sorry to all those who have bfn this month, June is a lucky month according to my very superstitious gran!

[Marika]

Mumofsix - I would also not feel very happy about that girl being at the same place as my dh!

stephk - Yes, you are so right about the sense of time when ttc. Especially first days in 2ww are horrible!

About the docs and my spottings - I think they might check me sooner if I would have really insisted or said that I believe that I have a new cyst or in pain or so, but I didn't. I will give it maximum two cycles and then call back.

I am starting to think that O is coming closer again. Sorry for TMI, but I am having some ewcm and cervix is getting softer. Had neg opk yesterday but will start testing every day or maybe twice. Ovulated the 29 of april so 21 days ago. Feels like cycle is getting shorter for every month! (If it doesn't impact chances of pg I am happy, the more often I o the better, but I am not sure that eggs get the chance of growing and eventually implanting if everything is speeding like this.)

[Marika]

lyagirl - Fx for you!!

[PrimalMamma]

Iyagirl I hope you are!!!

Marika no such thing as TMI here girlfriend!! Lol.

MumofSix - pardon me but fuck that bimbo! OMG. I would go skitz if my DH was working with someone like that. Mine actually started a new job today... In my office! I've worked there 8 years so there is no getting away with NOTHING!! Lol.


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[laVieEnRose]

Girls, can OPKS stay positive for 2 days? I had 1rst positive yesterday (I think) - we bded anyway as it was the '4th' day but this morning is still positive. Should we stay at the one attempt?
Thanks xxx

[Marika]

lavieenrose - yes I think an opk can stay positive for more than a day. I believe Atomic wrote somewhere that you should count the first positive and bd when you get it. Some ppl get positive just a few hours, others for two days. I have also had a +opk at night and then still positive in the morning, and fainter again in the evening.

I would stick to tge attempt from last night! GL!

[stephk]

hope you are lyagirl - everything crossed for you! For those of us that are out for May, I hope your gran is right.

Marika - what CD are you on? I think I have read somewhere that cycles of 24-33 days are considered 'normal'. I think. Dont quote me on it.

Lavie you are in your 2WW - good luck! hope you get your BFP

[SamS_TTCPink]

Fingers crossed lyagirl!! And I hope your gran is right. 😊

[Marika]

Stephk: Exact CD is a bit hard to say for me since I can't be 100% when my early bleeding/spotting is to be considered a full AF flow.

But I do remember writing in 2ww thread about AF-like cramps and increased bleeding the the 11/5. So if that is correct (and the spottings were just spottings antil then, and not AF) I would be o CD 9 today.

Last ovulation was 29/4, so almost 3 weeks ago. I just downloaded an application to start tracking my bleedings and stuff better. Will take an opk tonight as well and see if line is getting stronger.

[SamS_TTCPink]

Defiantly not alone steph! And if you find a way to get your DH to realise he is 35 with kids and TTC, please let me know!! My DH could learn the same lesson. 😉

[laVieEnRose]

Thanks! Wow, 2ww here we go then lol.
Feeling already super tired ... After we dtd, DH fell asleep straight away (as usual!) but I couldn't and stayed awake most of the night. I have no idea why I couldn't sleep. What is with men falling asleep right after sex?!

I didn't start testing until C10 and even then it wasn't worth it for me as it was so faint. I thought my OPKS didn't work as they are so cheap. From C13 I could definitely see the line getting darker and become a positive in CD15. Gl everyone and fx. Xx

[stephk]

Marika - sounds like nothing to worry about, if you were to O on CD10 for example and have LP of 14-16 days thats considered normal I think. However remember I am not an expert so definitely best to check if concerned.

[essnce629]

lyagirl-- good luck!

lavie-- I would stick with one attempt unless you don't get a temp rise in a few days. I thought I had a +opk on CD10 so we BD then but then there was no temp rise for several days and on CD13 my +opk was really positive with the test line darker than the control. So we BD then since my normal O day is CD15. That would still be considered one attempt if I O today on CD15. No temp rise this morning so I didn't O yesterday. My opk was still positive as of last night with the test line equal to the control, so that's 3 days of positives. I'll take another this afternoon (I test twice a day). Good luck to you!

[girliedreamz]

Good luck, lyagirl!

Mumofsix - I can totally feel your family frustrations. My brother's girlfriend is *accidently* pregnant right now and all she talks about is how she *desperately* wants a girl.. even though she already has one. After a year on the LE and 3 months of TTC, I'm so tired of hearing about her accident pregnancy. I just pray I get preg before she finds out gender, because if she does have a girl, I can see me having a severe chocolate binge to get over it. (Not that I don't want her to have one, but...well...you ladies get it...)

[Rosie85]

I ordered some new opks and they should be here in 2 days. Think they will work right after a miscarriage? ? I'm not sure how all of that works exactly. My bleeding is considerably less today so we are going to start testing soon.

[PrimalMamma]

Oh Rosie in so sorry. Xx My close friend's OBGYN told her you are considerably more fertile immediately after a miscarriage but I'm not sure about the OPKs. Hugs. Xoxox


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[essnce629]

I ordered some new opks and they should be here in 2 days. Think they will work right after a miscarriage? ? I'm not sure how all of that works exactly. My bleeding is considerably less today so we are going to start testing soon.

I think Mumofsix used opk's and got a positive after her miscarriage. Maybe she'll chime in here. Do you have pregnancy tests still? Maybe take one every few days till it's negative, then start the opks.

[SamS_TTCPink]

Yep I used opk's and had no probs after our loss. 😊

[Marika]

Marika - sounds like nothing to worry about, if you were to O on CD10 for example and have LP of 14-16 days thats considered normal I think. However remember I am not an expert so definitely best to check if concerned.

Thanks steph. It's my LP that has been shorter before, but if I would o earlier, maybe Lp would be longer. Well, I don't know and since I can't control it or change it I'll just try to track it and see if I have any patterns. What about you? If you did o (which I believe!), what dpo are you now?

[Marika]

Rosie - So sorry you had to join in here again. Hope you get a chance to catch this first egg coming!

[lyagirl]

My best friend is pregnant first time and doesn't even know about swaying. Just said it would be ideal if they had a girl and yes of course they're having one. I was choked last night. Not because I don't want her to have a girl but just sad for myself as I don't believe I'll have one. So totally get where you are coming from. If I was to have s girl this time it would be great for her to have one too.

[stephk]

lyagirl - it just goes to show that it really is down to luck at the end of the day and people conceive boys and girls easily all the time. It is a hard lesson to us but we must remember that all we are doing here is upping the odds. I really hope that you are PG so that you and your friend can be bump buddies and I hope you get your girl.

girliedreamz - definitely with you on that one, may I recommend a jar of nutella ;)

Rosie - again I am truly sorry for your loss - I dont know the answer to the OPK question as I dont do too well with them myself but if you get them cheaply then you can start testing whenever you feel comfortable.

Marika - my AF arrived on saturday which would have been somewhere between 5-9 days dpo :( I have now started temping to see exactly how long my LP is. Did you get any advice on lengthening your LP? I am considering another couple of acupuncture sessions but they are £75 a time so I can really only do one or two more max, I have an expensive month coming up. Atomic also advised me to make the effort to eat 4 eggs a week, bit more full fat dairy and as I have been on the diet for longer than 6 months I should consider zinc 3 times a week.

[Marika]

steph - Ah, I see :-( Was it full AF at once or did you have spottings first?

I didn't get any advice for lengthening my LP. I think I have read somewhere that vitamin B (B6?) can be good for that, but I don't know how that would be for a pink sway.

I have been looser on the diet, had some salmon here and there and some potatoes and more fat. Not for the cycle purpose, but I just haven't been motivated enough to be as strict as fist months. But maybe the fat and salmon will help the cycle a bit, if that would have been part of the reason to why it's messed up.

My opk was still negative last night, I have no ewcm now but a little bit of cramping on the sides so I hope o will turn up this week. So eager to just get a new attempt! It's more or less all I can think of, I just wanna get pregnant now. During the weekend our youngest son also started to ask why we can't have a baby. He wants to be a big brother! Oh, I wish I could give him some happy news!

[stephk]

i went to the loo on saturday morning and had spotting, within an hour i knew it was real AF. It only lasted 3 days though, today is more like the lightest spotting ever. I have heard of B6 lengthening LP and did think about it, but atomic knows her stuff and I have had the custom plan from her since 1st November so I am sure she would have recommended it if it was relevant to me. Thats not to say it wouldnt be relevant for others. The reason she probably didnt recommend it in my case I am guessing is that I eat loads of fruit and veg so probably have enough b6 through diet. She said I didnt really need to do the zinc because I get adequate protein but I like to feel like I am doing something if you know what I mean. I dont care if it sways blue I am pretty much past caring about everything now, I just want to be PG too. Feel like a bit of a failure but then getting PG is down to luck, I just wish I could be a bit more chilled about it!

the fat and salmon will help you, I have realised that it doesnt take much with diet to mess up your body - I was eating at the upper end of the limits and did not cut back too far (because I used to easily eat 2500 cals a day, and I burn 850 a day through exercise so it would be stupid of me to only eat 1500 for example) - but look at what happened to me. Yes, it was down to BCP and probably nothing to do with the diet but who knows, maybe I could have gone back to normal quicker if I was eating meat, fish, nuts etc every day like I was before. Who knows. Whats done is done and funnily enough most of the time I dont mind the diet at all, I eat food I enjoy every day, its just sometimes I cant be bothered with the restriction.

[Rosie85]

Yep I used opk's and had no probs after our loss. 😊

Great! I am glad I ordered some. Here we go again! Haha.

[Rosie85]

I haven't had any bleeding in 12 hours. Can you really complete a miscarriage in 4 days of period like flow? It wasn't even as heavy as my normal periods actually. I am going to the doctor today thankfully. I will see what my hcg is at...I'm nervous I may need a d&c.

[laVieEnRose]

Hey Rosie, I had a complete miscariage 2 year ago. It was 'done' in 4- 5 days like a period really. I hope this is the case for you. Good luck with your appointment.
With regards t OPKS, you might get false + as they pick up the HCG hormone too if its still in your blood. Mine were positive still right after my ectopic surgery. They faded gradually so for me it was good to see that the hormones were decreasing and to know that my body was getting back to normal. Xx

[Rosie85]

Thanks lavien, that makes me feel better!

[stephk]

Sorry to hear that Rosie. I had a MC many, many years ago and it was like the heaviest period ever, lasted a really long time. But I think I was a bit further along than you. Hope you dont need a d&c hon.

[girliedreamz]

Good luck, Rosie, and so sorry about your loss. :( Let's hope the stickiest pink bean finds you this time.

[Kidandcatmommy]

So sorry Rosie! I hope the 4 days was it and you don't need any intervention.

I'm soooooo hoping I'm pregnant because I'm super tired today and all I want is a double espresso but I'm not doing that because I'm in the 2WW. We have my YDS's birthday party this weekend so I'm needing the energy to prep for it.

[Arimethia]

Started spotting today which I typically do five days befor AF, AF is due In five days. :hair: Onto cycle 6 of trying, is there a TTC in June group yet?

[stephk]

Arimethia - you are not out yet! This has happened to a few ladies, they had their usual pre-AF spotting but no AF as they were PG.

There are lots of us who will be TTC in June - hopefully it will be our lucky month :)

[girliedreamz]

Oh crap, Arimethia! So sorry!

Yes let's make a TTC June thread. On it now...

[essnce629]

Rosie-- my best friend had a miscarriage last summer at 5 weeks along and also had bleeding no heavier than a period. She got pregnant again soon after and just gave birth to her 2nd daughter two weeks ago! So fingers crossed that your miscarriage is finished and that you get your rainbow baby soon!

Arimethia-- so sorry to hear about the spotting. Hopefully it disappears and AF is a no show!

[lyagirl]

Hi girls, im 7dpo and seem to have got the flu. Went to bed at 830 last night. Feel dreadful :(

[Marika]

lyagirl - oh no, hope you feel better soon!

Arimethia - I hope those spottings sty at just spottings and AF doesn't turn up!

Kitandcatmommy - Fx for tiredness being a good type of tiredness :-)

stephk - I am happy you are finding the diet to be ok, especially since you have been on it for a while now. Your daily menus always look so delicious!

I have not had any opk+ yet and have now run out of tests! Have taken tests for 4 days and yesterday it started getting pretty strong, but wasn't positive.

Anyway, dh is being away tonight, so we decided to BD this morning just in case. I don't have any chance of getting tests during the day but from test results earlier cycles I would guess that it would be positive today. So we just did it and I am hoping to feel o symptoms the nearest days. If not, well just BD in four days again.

This time I skipped j&d and stayed in bed for 30 minutes. No hot showers, no antihistamines, but I did take a rephresh kind of stuff (pH3,8) a few days ago. Guess thats long gone by now (I almost hope so).

Will see if this is our attempt or if we need to make another one.

[stephk]

yay good luck Marika! I am also going to drop J&D this time and will lay down for as long as i can (unless we BD right before sleeping in which case I will go directly to sleep)

lyagirl - hope you feel better soon (in fact i hope its a PG symptom and not illness)

[girliedreamz]

Good luck, Marika! :fx:

[Rosie85]

Good luck marika!!

[Rosie85]

I have been feeling super down lately...I feel like I lost my daughter for sure as I see so many ladies with sways like mine was get their girls. ..it makes me so angry mine was for nothing. I am so angry I have to do this all over again and with 4 weeks of going back to my boyish ways. I've probably ruined my chances at a girl now. It is so frustrating. I have been crying all the time and don't know how to get it to stop. I can't seem to move on from this. I read online that after a miscarriage it sways for a boy...not sure why we all say pink on this site. You are extra fertile after a loss so wouldn't it sway boy??!

[daisymoo]

Rosie so sorry to hear what you're going through It's truly awful My best friend had a mc and two months later got pregnant with a girl so it doesn't necessarily sway blue. You have such a great chance of getting pregnant again with a girl. Remember that declining condition will sway pink and after all those months on the diet and what you have been through recently your body will definitely be in that condition. And I have also seen lots of sways get pink when they have given up their diets for the last month which would be the same time frame as what you have been off the diet. So I think you have a fantastic chance of getting pink next time. Try not to keep thinking negative thoughts (not good for pink) and try and focus on a new start, new diet and you will get your daughter. Sending you big hugs xx

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[daisymoo]

Best of luck Marika So hope this is your month!
Steph I think you should apply for Masterchef! Your meals every day look so good I think you are the healthiest eater I have ever seen! My le diet was all carbs and sugar, nothing as healthy as yours!! :):)

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[essnce629]

Steph don't give up! You will get your girl! And like I said in your other post, my best friend had a miscarriage last summer, got pregnant again right after, and just gave birth to her daughter two weeks ago. I definitely think m/c sways girl. My best friend is also a crazy exerciser (running and spinning) and normally eats a LE diet. That's why she has two girls now!

[laVieEnRose]

I can so relate to you Rosie!
I too thought i had the perfect sway when I got pg first TTC cycle. I was so gutted that it wasn't a viable pregnancy and I did blame myself for it...
And the thought of starting all over again...Grrr its really tough...but here I am again :-)

you have been through some physical and emotional stuff so it takes time to heal on both levels... Allow yourself some 'kindness and care' - it helped me...

Big hugs to you xxx

[Marika]

Rosie - I totally understand that you are feeling down. Not only having to deal with the loss but also starting this swaying business again. I searched the internet after my loss as well and found that some think it sways blue, some pink. Atomic thinks pink, so I chose to believe in that :-) (Not that my loss will sway anymore, but I was hoping for that the first 2 cycles). Also read here that actually feeling really down is swaying pink, so maybe it's a combination of psychological and physical things that sways pink?


I have been trying not to stress over ovulation today. Since I knew I wouldn't have any chance of testing today I figured there is no point of testing tomorrow (since I think it might have been opk+ today) but now I keep examining my cervix and checking cm all the time!

I thought I'd just do this cycle in a relaxed way. You know, BD this morning, hopefully ovulate tomorrow or saturday... but instead I now worry like crazy that I'll o on sunday night and not BD again until monday! That would be too far between! Oh well, by now I can't do anything about it but wait and see.

[PrimalMamma]

Rosie my friend just had a girl after a MC too... In fact she has had numerous miscarriages, & has 2 girls & one boy (her first, after no MCs). I'm so sorry for your pain & your loss.


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[girliedreamz]

So sorry, Rosie! I've not had a miscarriage myself, so I can only imagine how completely upsetting it is, but I so feel for you!

I can relate on the diet thing. After over a year on LE, I just had to ease up. And in doing so, I was certain I'd ruined all chances for a girl! But... in 3 months of TTC with pretty good timing from all I can tell, I've not got preg. So now I'm thinking that even with easing up, I'm still not fertile enough to be ovulating. My point is one person's "lower fertility" diet might be totally different than what another person needs to lower theirs, you know? It's not a forgone conclusion that if we have chocolate and cheese we're going to get a boy. You still have at least a 50/50 chance of a girl. And, most likely, much better than that because you have been swaying. So the odds are definitely on your side.

[SamS_TTCPink]

I know how you feel Rosie. I too am so sure our loss was a girl and it's so frustrating to have to start all over again. I haven't exercised or been perfect on the diet this month and with our attempt getting closer I feel like I have no chance of getting a girl again.

I also have really down days, especially as I had 'it all planned out' with a December baby and now that's all been put out of whack with the m/c.

I do believe a loss sways pink after seeing and hearing so many girls come from catching the first egg. Unfortunately we missed out on that so I really think we've blown our chances of a girl with that too.

It's so hard, so upsetting and so frustrating when everything falls apart and there's nothing we can do about it but all we can do from here is try to think positive and keep on trying! xx

[Rosie85]

Thanks ladies you all had very kind words. I truly feel better about it all. I went to the gym tonight and it sucked but I'm gonna do it anyway and get my daughter.

[Marika]

I know how you feel Rosie. I too am so sure our loss was a girl and it's so frustrating to have to start all over again. I haven't exercised or been perfect on the diet this month and with our attempt getting closer I feel like I have no chance of getting a girl again.

It's so hard, so upsetting and so frustrating when everything falls apart and there's nothing we can do about it but all we can do from here is try to think positive and keep on trying! xx

I can so relate to that feeling as well. When we lost our baby and then found out it was a girl I first felt relieve that we actually could get girls. But then I felt like I was punished in that cruel way (you know, guilt for wanting a girl when having two boys etc...) and I started feeling that maybe I am not meant to have a girl anyway. I still feel upset about having been so close to a daughter but still being so far away.

[stephk]

Rosie I am so sorry hon I really feel for you. I cannot add to the kind and wise words already said by the others but just know that we are all here in support.

[Rosie85]

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Oh no!!!! This looks like it could turn positive very soon. This is normally the way it looks the day before I get a positive. I am only 7 days out from the 1st day I bled for my miscarriage. Is it normal to O this early after? What should I do...do I attempt? I just stopped bleeding yesterday.

[stephk]

It might just be fluctuating hormone levels after the mc? As it's negative anyway, why not wait and see whether it turns positive tomorrow?

[Rosie85]

It could be...but this is my 4th day of testing and they were all negative before. I am having some cramping and twinges and cm. This is nuts. I think since we won't be home tomorrow Dh and I will attempt tonight just in case. We don't want to miss our chance at catching the 1st egg! If it's not than Oh well I will keep testing and attempt again.

[daisymoo]

If you can't dtd tomorrow and you think it might be posituve tomorrow I would definitely dtd tonight It can't do any harm and you might just catch that egg Best of luck!

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[Rosie85]

Thanks daisy. They were so faint the last few days and now this...it totally caught me off guard. I assumed I wouldn't ovulate until next week some time. Maybe it's just a random fluctuation.

[stephk]

Yes if you can't do tomorrow definitely BD today - good luck

[Marika]

Rosie, I would also BD today if dh is away tomorrow. Good luck, fx you get to catch that first egg!

[Kidandcatmommy]

Good luck Rosie! Hopefully, this is it and you can catch the first egg!

[girliedreamz]

Good luck, Rosie!!
You can always dtd today, then again in 4 days... still one attempt!

[Rosie85]

The test tonight was lighter..not sure what's up. I don't think it's safe for baby dancing yet either since I still have some periodic spotting. I don't know what to do now other than hold off and test again tomorrow.

[LilithWiser1979]

Rosie, I sincerely hope the next egg that comes up is the one you catch and nets you a pinkie! I never got a +OPK. I just DTD when it got lighter. I might get in an attempt if I were you.

[kitkat18]

Hi guys!! I'm back after a little ttc break which was actually really good for me. Just concentrated on my My hubby and the kids. His appendix did rupture and he has had three weeks resting and is still not 100% yet still in a bit of pain so having more tests done. Stressful time! Hoping to attempt in June. Sorry for everyone feeling well and truly fed up!! I realized for me its not just the diet its the stress of ttc as well so if you have time up your sleeve taking one month off can do you the world of good. Rosie sorry to hear of your miscarriage very upsetting, and hard to get back into it again we are here for you! Hello old friends marika, mum ofsix, stephk, essence, la vie maybe June will be our month!!! Hello to anyone I don't know, I had a month off but have been ttc for 3 and on diet for 6 months. Daisymooo sooooo thrilled you got your BFP and im sure its a pinkie with your relaxed attitude xxxxx

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[stephk]

Fab to see you back Kitkat!! Let's hope June is all of our lucky months :) CD9 today for me and DH has asked me not to go to gym. I've been every day since we got back from hols so I don't mind taking one day off (Shame it's the day after a cheese binge and the day of sushi binge!)

[PrimalMamma]

I took a meal to a dear friend yesterday, who has just had a daughter. Here is me holding her. In terrified this is the closest I'll ever get to my own...
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[PrimalMamma]

Excuse the terrible double chin ^^^^


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[stephk]

Gorgeous!! And what double chin!?!

[Marika]

Happy to see you here again Kitkat! Sorry about you dh, must have been so stressful for all of you! Hope he gets better soon.

Primalmamma - such a nice pic, fx you have your own little pink baby in your arms soon too!

stephk - I so admire your exercise discipline! I think you can relax and skip the gym from one day without any guilt.

[SamS_TTCPink]

Welcome back KitKat! Hope DH recovers soon. I'm glad you took a month off and are ready to get back to it all! It sure is a stressful time.

June HAS to be our month!!!

[SamS_TTCPink]

What a gorgeous pic PrimalMamma!! Hopefully you'll be holding your daughter soon!

[Kidandcatmommy]

Kitcat hope your hubby starts feeling better soon. Even an non-ruptured appendix can take a good 6 weeks to be 100% so 3 weeks in really isn't that long although I'm sure you both feel like it is!

Primalmama I didn't even see your chin haha! I was thinking wow she's cute and skinny and then I thought well she is on the LE diet so she probably would be thinner lol!

As an aside the two week wait is so annoying. I do pretty good at the beginning and now at cd10 or so I start wanting to pee on sticks like 5 times a day and get annoyed when they are negative. 😝

[dreamingofwin]

Popping in to say hello again ladies!!!

Been a while, was hoping a few more of you would be over in the due date section by now. I REALLY hope you get some bfps' v v soon!! x

[girliedreamz]

Glad to see you back, kitkat!

Primalmama - that pic is gorgeous! My stomach did a little flip seeing that cute little baby bundle. here's hoping we're all holding our own in about nine months!

*waves to dreaming*

[essnce629]

Sweetest pic ever Primalmama!

Hi Dreamingofwin! Hope that I and several more of us can join you soon!

[kitkat18]

Primalmama you look super hot!! Hope that's you in nine ish months xxx

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[kitkat18]

Miss you dreaming! How is life without LE ????? No don't tell me I will be jealous , any symptoms? You still going team green? Xxxx

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[stephk]

Dreaming we have missed you and we all wish we were in the due date thread too....hopefully we will be joining soon.... Just had an amazing all you can eat sushi feast, probably had a whole salmon in sashimi lol so if that doesn't bring on ovulation this month what will :)

[stephk]

Forgot to say - an aunty of mine emailed me on Facebook today to say she had seen my holiday pics, she hopes it's not cheeky to ask, but am I expecting baby no 2!!!!! Gutted or what!!

[PrimalMamma]

OMFG stephk how RUDE!!!!! Surely most people know you never ever EVER ask a woman if she is expecting, unless they are at the "I swallowed a whole watermelon" stage.

Kidandcat thank you for the compliment but I've actually GAINED weight since going on LE... My energy levels are shot & I can't deal with exercise as I am just too exhausted.



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[dreamingofwin]

Thanks ladies. I always check up on you guys to see if you have had your bfps yet!

Yes still staying green-eek! 9 weeks today and saw baby last week with a good hb :) I have fatigue mainly which is same as with my son. Although I was all about the dairy with him but I am all about citrus this time!
Good luck ladies xxxxx

[Kidandcatmommy]

Hi my name is KidandCat and I have ILS.... Imaginary line syndrome. I pee on sticks and then squint and imagine that I'm seeing lines that aren't there! Does anyone else suffer from this? I keep thinking maybe it's a line maybe lol. There is no line there ��. I'm hoping it's still just too early to test and I didn't use FMU either.

[stephk]

Yup you are not alone there! :)

[Marika]

Hahaha Kidandcatmommy! Your are not alone :-)

[PrimalMamma]

I should stop hanging out here, I've caught the same syndrome. Lol.


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[PrimalMamma]

I am premenstral, & want to stuff my face with anything edible. Not sure when AF will arrive, as I have a pretty irregular cycle. I thought yesterday due to cramping etc & I even wore a pad this morning when I went to work as I was certain it would show up today but not yet. Trying to avoid the monthly pig out, especially because my attempt is only about 2-3 weeks away depending on O.


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[girliedreamz]

Lol, KidandCat! Yes, and it's catching!
I'll admit, I stopped my POAS addiction this month. I've been getting +OPK like clockwork every month, doing 1 attempt (last month 2 just to be sure!) still but no bfp. So I'm thinking either I'm not ovulating or I'm not timing it right. This month, we're just dtd every 4 days. Kinda liberating not looking at lines. Scary in a way too. With easing up on the LE and not checking OPKs, I almost feel freaked that I'm not even swaying anymore. :/

[Kidandcatmommy]

I'm beginning to wonder if the Zyrtec is drying stuff up too much. I'm tempted to stop it and just deal with the sinus headaches until after next attempt if no bfp this time. I ate meat twice once yesterday and today. First meat since January 1st! I figured I'm either pregnant or need to loosen up LE so no foul either way. Unfortunately, the turkey chili gave me such awful heartburn I had to sleep upright. It seemed a bit unfair to me but at least it was yummy haha!

[PrimalMamma]

Anyone else have those moments when you feel like it's all a giant waste of time because you can't believe you would ever be lucky enough to get a daughter??? I'm there & feeling rather sorry for myself. 😢


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[Kidandcatmommy]

Oh so sorry Primal mama! It's not about luck just what's meant to be. Or at least I think so anyway. I don't feel like I wouldn't be lucky enough to get one but after dealing with the second little girl with a huge attitude I did question if all little girls are that way and am I crazy for wanting one! It sometimes seems the more I see other kids the less crazy I think my two monkeys are!!!!

[PrimalMamma]

Thanks kidandcat I shouldn't feel so sorry for myself. My SIL & BIL are dealing with their 2nd miscarriage in 3 cycles (no babies yet) after trying for nearly a year. So I feel guilty for being all "oh I want my 3rd healthy baby AND I want a particular gender..." I feel like a spoilt brat.


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[SamS_TTCPink]

Yes PrimalMamma! I feel like I just can't have girls and all this will be for nothing! I feel like my m/c was my girl and I've got chance of ever having a DD.

It makes it hard to keep motivated to keep up with LE and I haven't exercised. 😞

[Marika]

Primalmamma - I think most of us have moments when we feel sorry for ourselves and when it feels like all this swaying is probably for nothing. I truly have moments like that and i must say I generally feel lower now than I usually did. My dh often ask me what's on my mind, he says I have become so "closed" and more quiet. Don't know if it's the diet that affects me or if it's the ttc and longing to be pregnant again. My friends and family ask me every now and then if anything has happened and it's so painful to have to tell them "no, but we are not stressing" with a smile. I don't know why but I fell I don't want them to know how emotionally hard this is. They all know we wanted to try again as soon as possible after the loss, so they are asking for a good reason but it is stressing to know that people are "waiting".

But I also have to add that while it feels hopeless at times, it is so motivating to read all the success stories here. It gives me some hope reading in that section of the forum :-)

[stephk]

girliedreamz - thats often the best sway, the one you dont know about yourself :) hopefully you will feel more relaxed not trying to look at lines every day

primalmamma - yes I think everyone has these moments. Totally know what you mean and you do see people worse off and think how can I be so selfish. And we are doing all of this stuff and it could be for nothing but that is the nature of swaying, an opposite is always possible. But then you have to think is another gorgeous boy such a bad thing? All we can do is our best and leave the rest to god. Just think if you did have a boy what a fantastic life god has planned for him because you prayed for a DD but god had other plans.

Marika - pretty much in the same boat, stupidly told friends when we would be trying because we constantly had questions, are you going to have another so for some close friends I said yes we will start trying in January - so now that its nearly june and some people are trying to be discrete about it but they are still asking - but then I give a blow by blow account of my cycles, hormones and blood tests which must be quite boring for them to hear but they asked!! haha... privately though I am like you, it is depressing not to be PG. Wish I could be more like a guy sometimes as they seem a lot more relaxed about it but they dont have to go through what we go through with our bodies.

kidandcatmommy - is there something else you can take for the headache that wont have the drying effect? Glad you enjoyed the meat, wow that is a long time not eating any meat at all, my DH wouldnt let me get away with that!!

[SamS_TTCPink]

OMG! It's midnight but just took a opk and it's so close to positive if not positive!!?! We're so not DTD tonight but looks like tomorrow will be attempt day! Wasn't expecting it til the weekend or next Monday so glad i started testing early. 😀

[stephk]

I also tested today even though its only CD11 and it was a negative line but if I follow the same pattern as last time, it may well turn positive within a week :)

mumofsix good luck for your attempt :)

[Marika]

Good luck with your attempt Mumofsix!!

steph, hope your opk lines will turn stronger within a few days!

[Marika]

steph - I notice that friends keep an eye on my glass when we are having dinner together. You know "is that wine or is she pregnant yet??".

So I try to just grab a bottle of wine at once and then no one needs to ask or wonder.

I am now 4 dpo and time is going so awfully slowly. It's torture. Can't believe how 4 days can feel like 4 weeks! Just wanna fast forward a week and have a test (even if I promised myself not to start too early this cycle).

[stephk]

Lol me too I just immediately pour myself an alcoholic drink so that I am not watched!! :)

Hope time passes quickly and a BFP for you :)

[Kidandcatmommy]

Stephk I can take ibuprofen at least until I attempt. I've decided now that I'll probably take the Zyrtec through my period then stop until after we attempt. All the BFN's so far this month have frustrated me enough I'll just deal with the headaches.

I also know what you guys mean about the wine glasses. My husbands family watches mine and it's hard during the TWW trying to act as if I just don't want alcohol!

I'm soooooo tempted to also add in attempts next month like a bunch of attempts! Trying to fight the temptation.

[angielorna]

I'm throwing this in here too (posted in the general ttc girl thread) because I'm so confused! I just tested on CD10 with an OPK and it was VERY positive. I mean, no chance it's not. I plan to test again when I get home (tested at work at 2:30 p.m. -- low fluid intake today). I'm thrown. I wasn't expected a pos opk until at least Thurs eve/Friday. I don't know if this is for real??? My shortest cycle ever was 26 days, but almost always 28.

What the heck!!! I don't want to BD too early or too late this go round. Bawwww!!!!

Angie

[angielorna]

Yes PrimalMamma! I feel like I just can't have girls and all this will be for nothing! I feel like my m/c was my girl and I've got chance of ever having a DD.

It makes it hard to keep motivated to keep up with LE and I haven't exercised. ��

The "good" news is if the baby was a girl, you know you CAN conceive girl....and if you did it once you CAN do it again. Don't lose hope!!!

Angie

[Marika]

I'm throwing this in here too (posted in the general ttc girl thread) because I'm so confused! I just tested on CD10 with an OPK and it was VERY positive. I mean, no chance it's not. I plan to test again when I get home (tested at work at 2:30 p.m. -- low fluid intake today). I'm thrown. I wasn't expected a pos opk until at least Thurs eve/Friday. I don't know if this is for real??? My shortest cycle ever was 26 days, but almost always 28.

What the heck!!! I don't want to BD too early or too late this go round. Bawwww!!!!

Angie

I think LE diet can change your cycle, so personally I wouldn't skip an attempt just based on what the calendar says. My cycle is shorter now and I O earlier and also have a shorter LP. I would BD if opk is postive! GL!

[angielorna]

I never considered that le could cause ovulation to happen sooner....just later! I'm just concerned that, perhaps, it was the hardly any liquids today (wasn't holding, just wasn't drinking either). I'll do a final test when I get home and gear up for my attempt. Wow, 2 attempts in May. Who would have thought.

Angie

Angie

[SamS_TTCPink]

It's official! Positive opk this morning so tonight is the night! 😉 Never felt so nervous and I am also super scared of getting a BFP only to have another loss, but at the same time super excited that we can now attempt again.

[girliedreamz]

fingers fully crossed for you, mumofsix! :fx:

[Rosie85]

Fingers crossed mum!!!

[Marika]

Good luck mumofsix!

[essnce629]

Good luck Mumofsix and Angielorna!!!

[essnce629]

These are the cheapo SurePredict tests I took today at 3:45am, 1:30pm, and 11:00pm. They are supposed to be more sensitive than FRER in that they detect hcg as low as 10miu, but the reviews are mixed with false positives and evaps LOL! I'm only 8 or 9 dpo and had about 10 tests so figured I'd use them up! My FRER that I took at 3:45am was BFN. What do you think? I'll take another tomorrow and only if the line is darker will I take another FRER. I hate wasting those!

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[PrimalMamma]

Good luck MumOfSix!! 💋😘 And you too Angielorna!


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[PrimalMamma]

Ooh I don't know essnce if you didn't give me the background info on the tests I would say positive but I don't know now....!


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[angielorna]

Essnce! I think those look very promising!!!! I think you're on your way :) I can't wait to see the progression :)

Angie

[dreamingofwin]

Essence my bfp looked exactly like that on cd8. I took a digi cd9 and there were the words pregnant 1-2! Congratulations xxxxx

[essnce629]

I took another SurePredict test with second morning urine today and this time it was BFN. No shadow of a line or anything! So who knows what's up!

I'm either 9 or 10dpo today (I think 9, FF says 10). I refuse to waste another FRER so I'm saving it for tomorrow. I had a super faint BFP on 10dpo with DS2 so fingers crossed!

[kitkat18]

Hi guys,
Just catching up! Essence really hope its your month!!! Looks super promising.
Stephk I can't believe she thought you looked pregnant she must have been imagining things!!
To all feeling generally fed up: thank goodness we have each other I have been on this diet so long I no longer know how to eat properly and like wise feel like I will have gone on and on and still end up with a boy which is sooooo not the end of the world but not the point to diet, one attempt blah blah!! Its hard to stay motivated is all!!
Good luck mum of six and Angie on your attempts xxxxx,xx

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[stephk]

kitkat totally with you. The diet and exercise I can handle. I have also eradicated the stress of one attempt/every 4 days because I decided to just BD when we feel like it and then take a view of when the positive OPK happens (if it ever does lol). The pressure of counting days and having to BD got a bit too much.

The thing that gets me at the moment is that I feel that DH is trying to sabotage my sway, he knows I am trying to avoid conflict yet last week he was starting arguments about my diet, spending too much time in the gym, its my fault I am not PG etc etc..............then last night we BD because I am out tonight so if I get a positive OPK today I am covered. Then afterwards we were just chatting and I mentioned that I had to give my boss indicative holiday dates, so I said it would likely be the second week of september (we are trying to get another holiday in before DS turns 2 on 17 September). He said why not the first week. I said that our friend turns 40 on 4th and I would like to attend her do. Then he said where are we going to go and I said I have been looking at all options but given that I am hoping to be PG I dont want a really long flight. Then he said he wants to go to carribean and I said I have been looking at it but I think the flight will be too long and uncomfortable and he starts getting all sh1tty saying he wants to go there, I am shouting because its MY birthday on 8th plus I dont want to be too uncomfortable PG and on a plane and we argued about something as nice as going on holiday!! I was seething angry with him and told him he shouldnt be starting arguments and why cant he be a gentleman like other guys!!! ARGH he really bloody annoys me!! He really brings out the martha in me sometimes :(

[daisymoo]

Aw Steph you poor thing Men can be so insensitive at times They just don't have a clue what we go through. Keep taking deep breaths and try and stay calm (hard I know!!) Just go and book something with a short flight anyway and he'll just have to go there ha!!

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[girliedreamz]

Oh, Steph, that sucks!
My dh is such a sweet, supportive, kind, considerate guy... except when it comes to thinking about new babies. Lol! He turns into this conflict-creating, combative thing I've never seen before. Seriously, I just *mentioned* something offhand about how I'd love some female energy around me (as my 2 youngest boys were covering themselves with mud in the yard) , and he not only flew off the handle about girls versus boys, but he also sulked all afternoon about it in silence. Men! I really think it just stems from fear. He fears change, fears the responsibility of another child and all that goes with it. Not that it excuses the Neanderthal behavior, but I think even the best guys get crazy when it comes to thinking about new babies. We get excited, they break out into hives.

[Rosie85]

I am cd14 today and still no positive opk. I know it can get all messed up with a loss but I am starting to get ewcm and I am terrified of missing this first egg. I really want a February baby!! I switched test brands and I'm paranoid they just aren't working the same. I hate to attempt and then get a positive two days later. Too much sperm for my liking.

[lyagirl]

Im back, cd1 today! Let the counting commence!

[PrimalMamma]

Iyagirl & Rosie there is a June group now :)


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[stephk]

hmmm Rosie not sure what I would do in your position as I know your preference when it comes to that. I would BD but that is me!! I am desperate to be PG that I dont care if there would be a few too many sperm. Do you usually get EWCM a few days before O? if so, keep testing.

lyagirl sorry that you are moving on to another month.

lol daisymoo and girliedreamz.

I have a stonking hangover this morning.........

[stephk]

Woo just had blaring positive OPK!! Not sure whether to attempt tonight or first thing tomorrow....last attempt was weds evening

[stephk]

Ok decided to go for it tonight!!! Get it over and done with haha :)

[girliedreamz]

Good luck, stephk!!

[Rosie85]

Good luck Steph! I know this is your month!!

[PrimalMamma]

Good luck stephk


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[daisymoo]

Best of luck Steph! Fingers crossed for bfp in 2 weeks!!

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[SamS_TTCPink]

Have fun stephk! 😀

[Marika]

Have posted in the 2ww thread for may but just wanna update here as well (sorry for you who have too read my double posts!).

I think I am pregnant! It is early, 8 dpo but I have taken two tests (different brands) with fully visible lines coming up very quickly!

This morning I took a test that was negative (or well, I could see what i thought was an evap or something, but def not an positive...) so I almost lost hope since I was spotting. Hopefully that was IB and thaty I wont have to see more blood in a while.

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[stephk]

Looks extremely positive to me!!!

I got drunk tonight and ate too much.....gah!

[angielorna]

Congrats again, Marika! I never get tired of seeing BFP :P Even when they aren't mine :)

Angie

[Marika]

I hope to see you ladies join in with some more bfps in a few days!!

[SamS_TTCPink]

Congrats again Marika!!

I really don't feel like this is out month. We decided to BD again last night just in case Wednesday was too early but it didn't go to plan. TMI but DH "finished" twice but just nowhere near me! 😕

So although we had an attempt Wednesday, I just don't have that optimistic feeling. Don't "feel" like this is our month at all. Which also sux cause it's our last month of TTC so if it doesn't happen this month, it doesn't happen at all. I'm starting to think it's just not meant to be. I'm just not supposed to have a girl. 😞

[Rosie85]

Mum you never really know! I've gotten pregnant with 5 days before ovulation...it can happen!! You are not out until your out.

[SamS_TTCPink]

Thanks Rosie. It's just that "intuition" telling me it's just not going to happen. I hope it's wrong! Maybe it's just my way of not getting my hopes up.

[Rosie85]

I know what you mean. I think I will get pregnant but my hopes for a girl...I'm not so confident. .

[Marika]

Thank you Mum.


I know what you mean by intuition, but just as you said it can also be a way to protect yourself (fully normal after your loss) and not getting your hopes up.

As Rosie said, your'e not out until you're out, and I am crossing everything for you this month!

[SamS_TTCPink]

Thank you Marika! 😊