Spironolactone for hair loss, TTC Girl

[daydrmbelievr]

My dermatologist put me on spironolactone yesterday for chronic hair loss. It works by lowering Testosterone, which I know is good while TTC a little girl.
Anyone know anything about using this as a part of a "sway"? What else should I use with it to help get a bundle of pink in my life?
I am currently charting BBT, CM, OPKs. We plan to TTC in 3-4 months after I can accurately predict O (we will use cut-off/Shettle's Method).

Side note about safety: my derm told me that it's okay to take while TTC, but to stop it immediately upon getting a BFP. He told me it lives in the system for just 80 minutes.

[atomic sagebrush]

I think you need to get a second opinion because my understanding is you need to be off it 6 weeks. Talk to a pharmacist and your OBGYN.

A couple people have used it as part of successful sways but they took it months in advance of TTC and then came off it prior to pregnancy.

I do not recommend timing intercourse for ttc http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/7691-trouble-timing.html

[daydrmbelievr]

Thanks, Atomic!
What would you suggest I take in addition to the Aldactone to regulate my hormones for a little lady? What about foods, douches, lubricants, etc? I know you don't like timing, so it really doesn't matter?
I talked to my midwife and she said my dosage is low enough to stay on, but to stop RIGHT AWAY when I'm late or think I might be pregnant. I chart like it's my job, so I should know ;)

[maidentomother]

Could you let me know if being on it affects your LP? I was on it for several months back in 2007 and I think it was at least partly responsible for a very short LP during that time (2-6 days!).

[daydrmbelievr]

Maidentomother - I have heard that it messes up cycles. I'm only on cycle #3 since weaning DS2, and I started the meds halfway through last cycle. I chart pretty thoroughly so I will know if something changes quickly.
I will let you know :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks, Atomic!
What would you suggest I take in addition to the Aldactone to regulate my hormones for a little lady? What about foods, douches, lubricants, etc? I know you don't like timing, so it really doesn't matter?
I talked to my midwife and she said my dosage is low enough to stay on, but to stop RIGHT AWAY when I'm late or think I might be pregnant. I chart like it's my job, so I should know ;)

This is the type of stuff that is covered in the essays, there is a link to them in my signature below.

I do not think timing matters one bit!

[daydrmbelievr]

Thank you! I have been reading a lot of your comments about RepHresh - I am going to start using that.
My husband eats like... a man, and there is no changing that. :)
I really like what I am reading about RepHresh, and combined with a (somewhat) girl diet, lots of cardio, the Spriolactone I am feeling good about getting my little girl.
Ahhh, shivers :) My husband admitted to me that HE has baby fever bad (even though we have a 9 month old napping upstairs). LOL. I have a feeling I'll be TTC very soon!
Thank you for all of your help!!

[maidentomother]

Thanks! Good luck with your sway :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Husband doesn't need to follow the diet, so no worries there.

The RepHresh has actually been getting about 50-50 results, so it's not really as effective as we'd hoped. Most peopel do TTC for a few months with it, but end up not getting pregnant and drop it.

[daydrmbelievr]

Oh no! I was really hoping the RepHresh would really help me out.
Does the AciJel have better results from what you have seen recently? Do you think it's 50/50 because people are giving up on it?

[atomic sagebrush]

All the jellies are 50-50. Also Sylk as well. Same results both with and without them, net result no benefit.

I do not know why they are getting the results they are. My suspicion is that pH probably never actually did anything other than reducing sperm numbers, and since we're taking care of that in different ways, the jelly is bringing nothing to the table other than preventing pregnancy for all but the very most fertile people OR people who weren't doing many/any other sway tactics. It's entirely possibly these same people are more "set" for blue to begin with and thus are making the jellies look more neutral than they are...but I wouldn't bank on that! :)

[daydrmbelievr]

since I do not think I can go gung-ho with the diet (I will turn into a miserable grouch) and I really can't afford to lose more than another 4-5 pounds (without going 'underweight') can I bypass some of the diet and rely on a jelly to reduce the pH?
I will definitely cut out the meat and bananas, and restrict potatoes down to almost nothing, then focus on nutrient "poor" foods (which is counter-intuitive to me since I'm a nutrition junky :omg:) and try to skip breakfast as often as possible.
It took me months to kick fake sugars out of my diet (I had a serious addiction to diet sodas and low cal foods), so it's going to be really weird to bring them back :)
Thanks for all of your help, AS!

[atomic sagebrush]

Jellies have not gotten the resutls we'd like to see for me to suggest them as a replacement for the more effective forms of swaying. THey got identical success rates both for those using them and those not using them, indicating they are not helping. Plus, they really lower odds of conception.

ANY change you make in a pink friendly way will still help. You do not need to be miserable on LE Diet. Just do what works for YOU.

Skipping bananas and potatoes will do nothing whatsoever for your sway. My daughter is like 30% potatoes, I ate them several times a week. Cutting out meat may help, though.

You do not need the fake sugars, I doubt they do much of anything.

Above all else I'd stick with the one attempt if you're not doing much else in the way of swaying. Very important.

[daydrmbelievr]

Thanks again for answering my questions, Atomic!!!
In regards to the "one attempt", I am having a super tough time deciding when to do it, and how to "instruct" my husband to behave ( :giggle: ) in the weeks prior.
He's a "busy" guy when it comes to cleaning out the pipes (1-2x day, not including any BDing), so I know that abstaining will NOT be okay with him.
With that said, should he keep doing his thing daily and/or DTD (we both hate condoms, so I might just have him pull and release elsewhere) and then have a cut-off? What would you suggest, 2 or 3 days? I tend to have EWCM for around five days total, if that matters at all.

Thanks!

[atomic sagebrush]

I do not recommend cutoffs at all ever. i think the easiest way is just having an attempt at pos OPK, it's best odds of conception with swaying and one attempt, plus takes most of the guesswork out of it. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/7691-trouble-timing.html

When it comes to adding frequency (the instructions for DH) that is largely at your discretion. Some people do both frequency and one attempt, others do only one or the other. Frequency has gotten mediocre results and I am moving away from it all togehter in favor of emphasizing the number of attempts.

one of my main rules of swaying is "if daddy ain't happy, ain't nobody happy". so if he normally releases daily, I'd have him continue that unless it becomes apparent that it is preventing conception.

[daydrmbelievr]

Great thanks!
My problem with opks is that my surge is SHORT and the opk only picks up a faint line as I am also getting O cramps. I never get a second positive, even hours later.
I took four tests on CD20 this month (10am, 2pm, 6, 9) and I only got a faint + at 6.
I am a CD20 Oer ;)
What do you recommend with this scenario? I wish I had a standard 12-36 hour "warning" :giggle:

[atomic sagebrush]

In that case I generally recommend either DTD the day before you expect to O (if you ahve a fair level of confidence about what day that will be, with the understanding that swaying can change this) OR the DTD every 4 day method.