CM supps - experiences and results!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Some people are noticing that some of the supps work great for boosting the first month and then stop working. Others are noticing that other supps are taking a few months to get going. Let's put our heads together and share our experiences...it may be that some of the supps should be started sooner and others should be postponed until the month of the attempt.

EPO, fish oil, Fertile CM, Robitussin, grapefruit...how did they work for you?

UPDATE 12-20-17! it's been 7 years since I posted this and I can now say definitively the things that are working to improve cervical mucus for our blue swayers!

L-arginine - AVOID. It's messed people's cycles up terribly, delaying ovulation and shortening up luteal phase. It also may dramatically reduce egg quality. Plus we've seen a lot of opposites when using it! I just cannot recommend this for any blue swayer. You can give it to your husband though, it may help sway blue when he takes it.

Evening Primrose Oil - AVOID. We have seen a disproportionate amount of opposites in the people who were taking EPO - so much so that I am seriously considering now using this supplement only for PINK!!! The only people who may possibly benefit from EPO are those on a strict keto/very low carb diet (which I do not recommend for blue sways anyway!)

Fertile CM - Has seemed to help improve EWCM for some people, has dried it up for others. Plus it has also really messed up the menstrual cycle for some women. I also feel that I've seen a lot of opposites in women taking it. I can no longer recommend Fertile CM for anyone swaying, pink or blue.

Fish Oil - OK in lower amounts. While we once used 1000 mg (and some people took even more!) we now believe that 500 is more than enough and this dose will avoid side effects and risks from higher amounts (some of which may even sway pink by reducing cholesterol levels!) 500 mg only.

Flaxseed oil - AVOID like the plague!! Flaxseed oil has been shown to my satisfaction to be actively harmful to unborn babies and since we do not know how long the effects last I want blue swayers to avoid it even prior to pregnancy. It also may sway pink just like the EPO does. NO FLAXSEED OIL period end of story and no flaxseeds in anything more than occasional dietary amounts 2-3 times per week.

Grapefruit Juice - Seems to help although we aren't really sure if it's anything magic about grapefruit in and of itself or if it's simply a side effect of staying well hydrated.

Green tea - Has seemed to help improve EWCM for some people, has dried it up for others. Plus it has also really messed up the menstrual cycle for some women. I no longer believe green tea to be super effective for making EWCM and if anything seems inferior (in terms of successful sways) than black tea has. Use with caution; if you notice your cycle getting strange and your EWCM is lessening, ease off green tea and switch to good old black.

Guaifenesin - aka Robitussin or Mucinex Highly recommended, has really seemed to be very effective for us! This is your best option for your blue sway! http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-a-boy-best-practices/504-cough-syrup-guaifenesin-ttc-boy.html#post2717

Maca - I am not a fan of Maca. We have seen absolutely bizzare side effects while taking it (such as hallucinations and heavy midcycle bleeding). It also seems to delay ovulation and cause a short LP for some people. Also has dried up EWCM for others. I cannot recommend Maca to anyone.

Red Raspberry Leaf Tea - There is mixed data about how this sways and until I have more firsthand accounts of people successfully using it for blue, I feel better about having you guys avoid this tea. It's great in the last month of pregnancy for toning the uterus but I would stay away from it for making EWCM!

[Zivic-Bubac]

EPO - did nothing for CM, delayed my O , so I dropped it :thumbsdown:
FertileCM - couldn't find it here
Fish Oil - I'm not sure, but I believe it is good for overall fertility, that's why I'm taking it :agree:
Green tea - it seems it helps, but it took me like 3 months 1-2 cups daily to see more CM :agree: Also for this one I (want to) believe it's magic bullet for :DS::bigsmile: ( Atomic, if it's delusion, please don't take it away LOL!)
Robitussin - this cycle I used replacement for Robitussin ( guaifenesin) for the first time and I'm happy with the results :agree:
Grapefruit - if bfn (God forbid!) I'll try it

Note: those are just mine experiences, other people might have different ones

Also, from my exp, presence and quantity of CM has lot to do with age. When I was in my twenties I distinctively remember I had tons and tons of it. lot of it on panties etc. As I approached 30, it decreased ( had my 1st at 31)
I'll be 39 soon and I'm glad I have the decent amount ( not tons, nothing on the panties) with all these enhancers :twocents:

[begonia]

Great thread idea!

Mucinex: I took this the month before my attempt and the month of, and I honestly didn't see a huge difference in my CM from it. I did one 400 mcg tablet every 4 hours; 3 a day. But I think I am definitely an exception here.

L'Arg I tried taking this about 5 days in a row and found it delayed my AF. Since I normally have a very regular cycle I decided it wasn't worth it for me. I think I might have tried taking it every 2-3 days if I had more months though, because I know some ladies had good results.

EPO This was the winner for me. I took it for several months and it worked every time; I would say by the 3rd month it was really, really noticeable. Never messed with my cycle. And the other benefit was it made my AF easier too, which I had read about but wasn't expecting. Less cramps for sure. Only take AF-O. I took 1000 mcg.

Fish Oil I took this every day for almost a year; my derm actually rec'd it for my skin. I don't know if it did much for my CM or not but it definitely didn't hurt!

Grapefruit I love grapefruit juice; make sure you get one that is loaded with potassium and vitamins, some of those just stored on the shelf aren't very nutritious at all. The "Simply Grapefruit" juice brand (also make OJ) was great. I do think it increased my CM, it didn't mess with my cycle at all either. I drank it everyday of my cycle.

Green Tea I drank 2 cups a day AF-O. Really 2 bags in one cup :happy: I ended up just drinking it b/c I really liked it mixed 1/2 and 1/2 with water and adding some lemon juice. I also think this did help my CM, and didn't change my cycle.

I'll be curious to see some other replies! I do think that adding more fats into my diet probably helped as well.

[TTC5]

I know this is not a supp but gelatine had a BIG impact on my CM it dried me out!

[jenny2011]

great thread...really helpful to me as i,m thinking to add some of them in my sway...

[Freya]

Green tea worked really well for me. Robitussin thinned my CM out so it became more watery but less stretchy, so I didn't continue to use it.

[Kris217]

Fish oil worked for me, i only used to have ewcm the day i ovulated but since i've been taking fish oil i'd had not quite ewcm but wet cm for over a week during ovulation time. More like 2 weeks!

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks so much, keep them coming!

A couple people had mentioned they had less CM after starting green tea, maybe they just need to wait it out a bit???

[Zivic-Bubac]

Who said that? lol!
It might not have an instant effect, but I would never drop green tea, less CM or not, but maybe continue with green tea and add something else for CM?

[Flava]

Im drinking green tea for almost 3 months now and had a LOT more CM before I started. So it's not that great for everyone.
Use to drink a lot now Im down to 2 cup/day hope I get more ewcm back. If not I will try 1 cup only.
So no it's not so great for everyone. Im not even sure it's helps so much to get a boy. :think:
Now Im thinking to get EPO or fertile CM to have more cm, but just don't know which one? I read a lot about both and still not sure. And just to try and buy it both is a lot of $.:sigh:

[atomic sagebrush]

Flava and Jenny both mentioned they had less CM after starting green tea.

I would go with Fertile CM over the EPO.

[jenny2011]

any one tried garlic to enchace cm. i.v just come to know it is good fo thin out cm...any opinions
http://www.babysnark.com/ttc-supplements/ttc-supplements.asp

[atomic sagebrush]

I think garlic would be a great idea because it also raises testosterone. :agree:

[Flava]

Ok I will try fertile cm.
I love garlic and eat a lot but no way I can cut it up and drink it with water. http://i409.photobucket.com/albums/pp176/Beccka/smiley-yuck.gif

[Flava]

Green tea - it seems it helps, but it took me like 3 months 1-2 cups daily to see more CM Also for this one I (want to) believe it's magic bullet for ( Atomic, if it's delusion, please don't take it away LOL!)

That's so funny I think the same from the nuts!:rofl:

[TTC5]

Ok I will try fertile cm.
I love garlic and eat a lot but no way I can cut it up and drink it with water. http://i409.photobucket.com/albums/pp176/Beccka/smiley-yuck.gif


ewwwwwwwww lol you can get it in supplement form ;)

[jenny2011]

i,m also confused by the idea of swallowing it with water :think:but i,m going to try it in next cycle as its natural ...and there is no risk of messing cycle...:suprise:

[atomic sagebrush]

YOu don't need to swallow it with water, just cook with it and beware because it's a blood thinner, so if you're already taking fish oil or flax it might cause excess bleeding. Obviously if that happens, stop eating it.

[ttcboy2011]

I'be been drinking green tea and I noticed alot of ewcm. I'm not sure which one it is but its either zinc or potassium that causes me constipation (tmi). So I don't take it everyday. I take them every other day.

I'm taking fertile cm and guaifenesin tablets right now from af to O. Haven't gotten O yet so I don't know if it will help me about the ewcm.

Also taking fish oil and vitamin E but haven't noticed anything yet.

[Kris217]

Ok I will try fertile cm.
I love garlic and eat a lot but no way I can cut it up and drink it with water. http://i409.photobucket.com/albums/pp176/Beccka/smiley-yuck.gif

Yes do try fertile cm. I've only been taking it maybe a week and yesterday had the hugest amount of ewcm i have had in my life! lol

[LolaInLove]

The FertileCM dried me up terribly! Isn't that odd? The month I dropped it, the cm came back.

[begonia]

The FertileCM dried me up terribly! Isn't that odd? The month I dropped it, the cm came back.

I remember this! You and another couple of gals from IG had that experience; that's why I never tried it out.

[gizmo77]

I know this is not a supp but gelatine had a BIG impact on my CM it dried me out!

has anyone found that gelatin delayed their ovulation??? (not just dried them out)

[gizmo77]

only supps for me so far that ive tried is l-arginine, totally dried me up and i THINK is causing a delay in O (i say "think" bc im coupling it with gelatin 3x/day). the 1st cycle i took l-arg, i spaced it out and had fewer doses (only 4) and i ended up O'ing earlier than normal, BUT it may have not have had a chance to really dig into my cycle, perhaps.

this cycle, i took l-arg 7 times (every other day). today would have been my 8th dose, but i have wayy less ewcm than normal (some comes out in spurts but amount is significcantly less and so i know my O is delayed) and i decided to stop l-arg. i MAY try it again next cycle but every 3 or 4 days...tho i dont see if that would actually have any effect on my eggs/cm/hormones at all? (since the dose is "daily").

gelatin 3x/day like i said less CM, so starting today im cutting it to 2x/day

[atomic sagebrush]

I'be been drinking green tea and I noticed alot of ewcm. I'm not sure which one it is but its either zinc or potassium that causes me constipation (tmi). So I don't take it everyday. I take them every other day.

I'm taking fertile cm and guaifenesin tablets right now from af to O. Haven't gotten O yet so I don't know if it will help me about the ewcm.

Also taking fish oil and vitamin E but haven't noticed anything yet.

Great tip! There is NOTHING wrong with taking a supp every two days or even only once or twice a week (so if you get bleeding or bruising {or gas, or bad breath!!} from garlic, just eat it less often!). You'll still get benefits without as many side effects.

[atomic sagebrush]

The FertileCM dried me up terribly! Isn't that odd? The month I dropped it, the cm came back.

I just read about some other people who had this same experience!!! Maybe that old saying is true, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it!!"

[soontobesix]

So to all of those that have had the experience of l-arg drying up the EWCM... how long after you stopped the supps did the EWCM come back??? I'm really hoping you say the next cycle :bigsmile:

[Kris217]

FertileCM does contain l-arginine so maybe that's why it dried up some of you.

[atomic sagebrush]

Ok so I have been turning this around in my mind and I am going to just think out loud here and see what you guys think.

If you look at the table here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testosterone (scroll down to the part where it says "Biosynthesis") you can see how your body manufactures these sex hormones, all made from cholesterol. Progesterone is among the first things to be made and then testosterone is made from some byproducts of that and then after testosterone is made, estrogen is made from the byproducts of the production of the testosterone. What if the l-arginine is somehow disrupting that and making your bodies produce more testosterone at the expense of the ingredients in the estrogen?? If it were, that would explain how it could both raise your testosterone and also dry you up.

It's very probable to me that most of the time on the blue diet, you're increasing your raw ingredients to such a point that there would be plenty of cholesterol to make both testosterone and estrogen. and I can also see how increasing testosterone in general could mean that there was plenty of by-products for estrogen. But maybe the l-arg is interfering in that, temporarily or in the longer term???

What I would do is if you are finding l-arg is drying you out, if you have many months before your sway, keep taking it and see if this reduction is temporary (the longer you are on the boy diet, the more raw materials you will have for producing BOTH T and E so it may be that you just need to wait out the sudden rise in T and your body will increase E production to make up the difference) IF you don't have a long time to go before your sway, stop the l-arg and you may even want to increase your egg intake for a few weeks to help give your bod enough cholesterol to make more estrogen with.

The good news is, this is very intriguing evidence in favor of l-arg being GREAT for DH to take. Something that may increase testosterone and reduce estrogen would be great for DH.

I do want to point out that we honestly don't KNOW whether or not we need high levels of both T and E to conceive a boy and also that we don't totally KNOW what is going on with the l-arg, but I just wanted to let you guys know what my thought processes were.

[LolaInLove]

Oh, YAHTZEE, Atomic! I think you all are right on the nose. Well, glad to hear that it is good for DH to take, mine has been on 1000mg a day for quite some time now.

[Hobbermittens]

I just started the Robitussin and Fertile CM this cycle (2 days so far) and it seems to be making a LOT of CM!!

Fish oil didn't seem to do a whole lot, but I will keep taking it.

Green tea didn't seem to do much for me either. but I have heard it is good and it is supposed to sway so I will keep drinking!

Haven't tried grapefruit juice yet but I will.

Since I know they work for me, should I stop the Fertile CM and Robitussin for now and wait until the cycle when I will be attempting, just in case they quit working?

[SpicyTunaSushi]

has anyone found that gelatin delayed their ovulation??? (not just dried them out)

Nope- gelatin has had no effect on me. I O on cd 13. Fish Oil- awesome for me!

[gizmo77]

So to all of those that have had the experience of l-arg drying up the EWCM... how long after you stopped the supps did the EWCM come back??? I'm really hoping you say the next cycle :bigsmile:

well i had occasional ewcm very little tho during l-arg and gelatin. like every 2-3 days (normally i have it every day tons of ewcm all day for 7-8 days before O). my last dose of l-arg was tuesday (and last dose of gelatin was friday), i started getting my normal ewcm by saturday!!
im still getting my normal ewcm back but still no temp rises..no O :-( im al;ready on cd 21!!!

DEE-LAYYED!
im hoping this week i O. this will push my attempt till mid to late october. i dont think im going to do gelatin anymore either. its just not worth the dry CM and th epossible delay in O if th gelatin is doing that. im working out a lot so im hoping thas enoough. plus ive always had occasional chin hairs ;-)

[LolaInLove]

Hmmm, so you gals think if you T level is getting higher with diet and other supps that the addition of gelatin and FCM makes it kinda go in reverse?

[LolaInLove]

Since I know they work for me, should I stop the Fertile CM and Robitussin for now and wait until the cycle when I will be attempting, just in case they quit working?

I would keep taking the FCM for sure, and the Robit the week before O (I don't think you need to take it all month long). Maybe do the FCM from AF-O only? I can't remember if you are supposed to take it on the schedule or what.

[gizmo77]

Hmmm, so you gals think if you T level is getting higher with diet and other supps that the addition of gelatin and FCM makes it kinda go in reverse?

i think so. women who are hard core athletes prob have higher T and their cycles can sometimes be non existent or short or, whatever. so too much T isnt good for getting pregnant at all, IMO. thats just how im starting to think of it. why else would this stuff dry you out and be beneficial? to me if its drying you out its not beneficial.

[soontobesix]

Ok so I have been turning this around in my mind and I am going to just think out loud here and see what you guys think.

If you look at the table here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testosterone (scroll down to the part where it says "Biosynthesis") you can see how your body manufactures these sex hormones, all made from cholesterol. Progesterone is among the first things to be made and then testosterone is made from some byproducts of that and then after testosterone is made, estrogen is made from the byproducts of the production of the testosterone. What if the l-arginine is somehow disrupting that and making your bodies produce more testosterone at the expense of the ingredients in the estrogen?? If it were, that would explain how it could both raise your testosterone and also dry you up.

It's very probable to me that most of the time on the blue diet, you're increasing your raw ingredients to such a point that there would be plenty of cholesterol to make both testosterone and estrogen. and I can also see how increasing testosterone in general could mean that there was plenty of by-products for estrogen. But maybe the l-arg is interfering in that, temporarily or in the longer term???

What I would do is if you are finding l-arg is drying you out, if you have many months before your sway, keep taking it and see if this reduction is temporary (the longer you are on the boy diet, the more raw materials you will have for producing BOTH T and E so it may be that you just need to wait out the sudden rise in T and your body will increase E production to make up the difference) IF you don't have a long time to go before your sway, stop the l-arg and you may even want to increase your egg intake for a few weeks to help give your bod enough cholesterol to make more estrogen with.

The good news is, this is very intriguing evidence in favor of l-arg being GREAT for DH to take. Something that may increase testosterone and reduce estrogen would be great for DH.

I do want to point out that we honestly don't KNOW whether or not we need high levels of both T and E to conceive a boy and also that we don't totally KNOW what is going on with the l-arg, but I just wanted to let you guys know what my thought processes were.


Wow! So this is more than intriguing to me. First question that popped in my head then... If sex hormones are produced from cholesterol, would having low cholesterol directly impact whether you are able to have a boy? My cholesterol (total, LDL, HDL) across the board has always been unbelievably low and I have three girls. Low to the point that they think they have to re-test the numbers to double check they did it right. Any mommies of lots of little girls have super low cholesterol??? How about you mommies to little boys? What do your cholesterol levels look like??? This would play straight into the diet that you suggest Atomic (high everything) in order to sway boy and up T.

I love this board! I feel like I learn something new on here everyday :)

[gizmo77]

Wow! So this is more than intriguing to me. First question that popped in my head then... If sex hormones are produced from cholesterol, would having low cholesterol directly impact whether you are able to have a boy? My cholesterol (total, LDL, HDL) across the board has always been unbelievably low and I have three girls. Low to the point that they think they have to re-test the numbers to double check they did it right. Any mommies of lots of little girls have super low cholesterol??? How about you mommies to little boys? What do your cholesterol levels look like??? This would play straight into the diet that you suggest Atomic (high everything) in order to sway boy and up T.

I love this board! I feel like I learn something new on here everyday :)

same here! atomic is great!! i dont kow what my chol is. ill be checking soon tho. but its always been avg i think. but it makes sense if you ate like a girl diet then youd prob have lower chol...

[soontobesix]

Wow! So this is more than intriguing to me. First question that popped in my head then... If sex hormones are produced from cholesterol, would having low cholesterol directly impact whether you are able to have a boy? My cholesterol (total, LDL, HDL) across the board has always been unbelievably low and I have three girls. Low to the point that they think they have to re-test the numbers to double check they did it right. Any mommies of lots of little girls have super low cholesterol??? How about you mommies to little boys? What do your cholesterol levels look like??? This would play straight into the diet that you suggest Atomic (high everything) in order to sway boy and up T.

I love this board! I feel like I learn something new on here everyday :)


Okay the more I think about it I think Atomic is really on to something here. Your cholesterol could even be on the higher end due to HDLs (good cholesterol) and thus cause you to produce more sex hormones and cause more boys. I have a good friend who has 4 boys and I always wondered how she got boys b/c she eats mostly only fruits and veggies and good fat foods. I always attributed it to the fact that she doesn't drink milk but now I'm wondering if it's also that her HDLs (good cholesterol) are sky high from eating all the good fats all those years??? Hmmmm... Any one else with their own personal observations on this one?

[soontobesix]

Just saying Atomic... I think you could write a book and make millions. :bigsmile:

[LolaInLove]

Hmmm, good cholesterol levels.....that is intriguing! I will ask what mine are, if I can get a blood draw for it.

[Plum3]

I love this board! I feel like I learn something new on here everyday :)

Definitely! It is great :D

[atomic sagebrush]

Wow! So this is more than intriguing to me. First question that popped in my head then... If sex hormones are produced from cholesterol, would having low cholesterol directly impact whether you are able to have a boy? My cholesterol (total, LDL, HDL) across the board has always been unbelievably low and I have three girls. Low to the point that they think they have to re-test the numbers to double check they did it right. Any mommies of lots of little girls have super low cholesterol??? How about you mommies to little boys? What do your cholesterol levels look like??? This would play straight into the diet that you suggest Atomic (high everything) in order to sway boy and up T.

I love this board! I feel like I learn something new on here everyday :)

That is really intriguing! My cholesterol is normal but the doctor did praise me for having higher numbers of good cholesterol (which I attributed to my love of eating nuts! ;))

I do think it's a hair more complicated than that though because your body does decide what hormones to make and how much of them with what it has, and also your lifestyle can affect your hormone levels...still, this could be an "aha" moment!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Just saying Atomic... I think you could write a book and make millions. :bigsmile:

Aww, thanks!:kiss:

[zanacal]

Aww, thanks!:kiss:

I agree - I was trying to think why I was so excited about getting home from work (besides seeing my beautiful boys!) and then I realised that it's Friday, Atomic's back :D

[3GMomPraying4Boy]

Hi Atomic- I've been on the supps for 4 months now and I've dropped EPO. I'm vegan so I don't take Fishoil but do take flaxseed and Algae sups. I was taking L-arg but stopped it now. I'm really struggling with Ewcm and my O has been getting delayed to the Girl spectrum for timing.

Somebody recommended FertileCM and I've ordered it but now Im reading this and am not sure if it is a good idea?


I know I tried Mucinex a couple of times as I'm not attemtping till later this month and it did give me EWCM the following day. Green Tea dried me out too.

What do you think/suggest?

[Auzair]

I have just started fish oil vitamin D increased my ewcm n lemon water +boy friendly diet

[atomic sagebrush]

The problem is that epo and flaxseed ALONE without the fish oil, not only may dry up CM but may even sway PINK. You need to get some coconut oil in there and/or some sort of vegan Omega 3 type supp (there are some made from algaes) Are you taking algae itself or the omega 3 derived from algae?

If L-arg dried up your CM, it's the active ingredient in Fertile CM so I'd probably not have you go that route.

Green tea has similar hormonal effects to the flaxseed so if you're dry on flaxseed, that's not surprising that green tea is having the same effect for you.

:agree: with mucinex. that is probably going to be mandatory for you - and I'd start it right after AF ends and go 3 days past ovulation (that's more than I have people take usually, but it's fine and safe to take it htat long)

[Auzair]

Staying well hydrated matters alot with cm


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[3GMomPraying4Boy]

Ok Update for this cycle; I dropped a lot of stuff; I continued with:

False Unicorn: It has regulated my temps being lower during fertile days and back to regular higher temps on the cycle.

Omega Algae Dha Epa: Replacement for Fishoil it's been better than the flaxseed and Epo for sure.

Fertile CM: Took it only for 4 days twice daily. This cycle I had EWCM :bigsmile:

Mucinex tabs: I took these from after AF-O twice daily and gave them to DH. I had EWCM and DH Stuff was not clumpy :bigsmile:

Tim Horton's Green Tea: The green tea I had at home was not working it had something in it. My husband stopped at Tim Horton's and it was colder that day So I ordered a green tea. That evening I had and abundance EWCM I was in tears or joy because this was my first EWCM in abundance in my whole life. The next day I was dry again and I was sad because we were on our trip and I had no opk's to test and I thought that's it. But the following day we went to Tim Horton's Again and I had green tea and 40 mins later EWCM returned. So I looked into it and they sold me the box of tea bags and I read the label it has lemon oil and lemon in it and I remember Auzair told me warm lemon water lowers blood sugar level so I'm only going to take it in the afternoon and evening. Every brand of Green tea has different ingredients added to it.

Orange/Grapefruit: During our trip I had Oranges once everyday. One evening snack I had Oranges with some Grapefruit slices. Lots of honeydew melon, pineapple, apple slices lots of fruit in Mexico. I think it also helped in my EWCM. The fresh fruit is way better than the fruit juices. I took pure fruit juices before and they did not work for me.

Lemon Water or Drink: Because I was a pop addict I started with some Old Country 1.5 tsp Lemonade powder with Clubsoda and 1tbs fresh lemon juice. Then just Alkaline water with Lemonade powder and lemon juice. Now it's Alkaline water with 2 tbs Lemon Juice. When I have a craving then I go back to the lemon powder, club soda, and lemon juice mix. I drink at least 60-70 oz or more a day. With all the food and this I feel very full.

Garlic: I'm Indian and our cuisine contains a lot of garlic anyways but I do mix it up and when i have pasta and pesto I have raw garlic with it. I don't notice any difference that way but maybe it's helping with the testosterone?

EPO: Did nothing for me and delayed/messed with my O.

Flaxseed Oil: I saw no results with this and it delayed/messed with my O.

L'arganine: I saw no results with this either maybe messed with my O

Tribulus Terrestris: I found I had more energy to do weight, I began becoming more competitive and a little ball of fire like DH says but I think I'm getting cramps with this. I have stopped this and will keep you posted.


All The extra supplements and vitamins and stopping dairy completely were making me feel sick. It's been a little over a week and I'm feeling a little relieved my body felt overwhelmed I was taking too much of everything and going overboard I think with this sway. I will keep you guys posted for next cycle.

[Auzair]

Fish oil works alot in my case i must say :)


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[atomic sagebrush]

bumping up this updated thread!!! please chime in with your experiences taking any/all of these!

[Anthony]

I am at 2w waiting phase, I bought plan from you, swayed, and I never was so dry at ovulation like last month, never, I do not know what could be cause for this, I sway boy. My only hope is in Preseed I used.

[atomic sagebrush]

Did you do green tea??? If so, switch to regular tea and see if that helps.

Did you do guaifenesin? That can help.

[Anthony]

Yes, I drink 2 to 3 cups, sometimes extra strong with double bags. I just today found this theme on this site and saw about green tea. I used mucinex 1200 mg guaifenesin every 12 h and I did noticed my discharge is watery, but not like egg white, is that fine?

[atomic sagebrush]

YES! Watery is fertile CM and some think it may be even better than EWCM. :)

I would just ditch the green tea if you're worried about it.

[Lilyblossom]

YES! Watery is fertile CM and some think it may be even better than EWCM. :)

I would just ditch the green tea if you're worried about it.



I’m on cd 26 and expected AF tomorrow and had very intense pain on my left stomach & had some watery discharge.. I never had EWCM forever the only thing happened to me is only watery [emoji20]


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[atomic sagebrush]

this is actually normal before AF. It is called serous fluid and some women get it every month, other times you only notice it occasionally. It's totally fine for that to happen and has happened to me as well.

[Lilyblossom]

this is actually normal before AF. It is called serous fluid and some women get it every month, other times you only notice it occasionally. It's totally fine for that to happen and has happened to me as well.


I see and im glad im not alone having this kind of confusing Lol .. whenever i had those watery thing, i thought i was fertile but not sure enough and i really need to learn my body before we ttc.


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[atomic sagebrush]

Most people never know their bodies that well LOL! It is fine to TTC using OPK or fertility monitor without doing a thorough investigation of your cycle!

[Lilyblossom]

Most people never know their bodies that well LOL! It is fine to TTC using OPK or fertility monitor without doing a thorough investigation of your cycle!


investigation cycle sound bit savage[emoji12]
But yes it has to be done for atleast once in my life i guess Lol.

[atomic sagebrush]

No, it doesn't need to be done that's what I'm trying to tell you. It's totally unnecessary, doesn't help your sway any (since most people's cycles will change when swaying, and nor is it in any way required for conceiving. If you have OPK or a monitor you are good to go, no benefit to tracking your cycle or "learning" it (which is impossible anyway since cycles change over time even without swaying!)

[Lilyblossom]

No, it doesn't need to be done that's what I'm trying to tell you. It's totally unnecessary, doesn't help your sway any (since most people's cycles will change when swaying, and nor is it in any way required for conceiving. If you have OPK or a monitor you are good to go, no benefit to tracking your cycle or "learning" it (which is impossible anyway since cycles change over time even without swaying!)


Thank you atomic it was good to hear that!I’ve been thinking almost everything for this blue sway as i wanted to be done perfect including these cycles thing and after listen what you said and read all boy swayers and tips i find truly ease my mind [emoji11]


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[atomic sagebrush]

Glad to help - let me know if I can help you in any other way!

[Twogirls0607]

I'll add my experience with cm. With my version of he diet ( im from southern europe, so i cant find most of things you ladies are eating, so i adjust diet to my country- with help from atomic), i had so much wattery cm around ovulation.

I took multivitamin, folic acid, fish oil every other day, vitamin D. I drank a lot of water (like 3lit a day) and almost half of it was warm lemon water. I think that did its purpose- being hydrated. I never drink that much water, and with my previous pregnancies (girls) i never had not even close to this wattery/ew cm.

I think it is about keeping your body healthy, active, and well hydrated.

[Lilmb2019]

How long did you do this for?

[treens]

Hi ladies, question what days and how much would you take of the Robitussin?

Thank you :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Be sure you have JUST guaifenesin as sometimes Robitussin has more ingredients than that.

Start the medication 5 days before you expect to ovulate and continue thru O day. If you worry that is not enough, you can use it starting after your period ends and continue to 3 days after ovulation.