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swish
July 4th, 2011, 11:28 AM
Ok, so i have been doing opk for about a week now as ovulation has been really late. I have had no positives. This morning my temo shifted from 97.08 to 97.34. Have I ovulated? In all my other cycles I and pos opk so why wouldn't I on this cycle? Also in my other cycles my temp shifted to a higher temp than this time?
Can I be sure I have ovulated? If not, should I dtd again tonight? Help please!!!
I would check cervix but I don't really understand how and I have had quite a but of ewcm today, more than any day in my cycle so far.

zanacal
July 4th, 2011, 12:19 PM
Ugh swish, I wish I knew. I know nothing at all about temps as I've never done them. Do you even have a fade in on your OPK or is it completely blank? What time of day are you testing and what brand are you using? The EWCM is promising!

Mochagirl
July 4th, 2011, 12:25 PM
Were you testing only once a day? I think it might be possible to miss your surge if it happens between tests, but I'm not sure on that. I was testing 3 times a day near suspected O. I also ended up paying the $$ to get the digital tests because the smiley face left no room for doubt. I'm sure there are great websites that can help you figure out how to check your cervix. For me the change is very obvious - pre-O it gets softer and softer, and right around O it's so open I could almost stick my finger in there (though I obviously don't). As soon as O happens, it becomes hard and long feeling, as it's positioned lower in my V. Also make sure you're not mistaking semen for EWCM as they are veeeerrry similar.

Zivic-Bubac
July 4th, 2011, 12:27 PM
Tricky....From what I've found online, you need minimum 0.4-0.6 F temp rise as a sign of ovulation. Which is the case, but all sites say your pattern is more important then actual temperatures.

What OPKs are u using? OPK strips can often give false - ( which happened to me :sigh:)

Are you aiming for O+12?

Mochagirl
July 4th, 2011, 12:33 PM
I agree with Z-B - I found that when I used the same urine to test with a digital and a cheapie strip, the strip said negative, but the digital gave me a smiley face!

rainbowflower
July 4th, 2011, 12:57 PM
if you only test once a day and have a short surge it's possible to miss the surge completely - I had this during one cycle... you could have ovulated or it could be a rogue temperature, I guess you'll find out in the next 2 days?

Indira
July 4th, 2011, 01:03 PM
In my weird cycle last month I had a rise of temp on CD 18, then it stayed stabile on CD 19 and then another rise on Cd 20 and that´s when I ovulated according to FF. I will post my cycle after dinner so you can see.

swish
July 4th, 2011, 01:09 PM
Thank you, ladies, urg!!! I'm so confused. I tested 3 times a day and was really vigilant about not drinking too much. I did use cheap, Internet strips but I have done for the last 5 cycles and it has always detected ovulation before. I wish I had bought smiley face ones now!!! Do you guys think I should dtd again tonight, we have done it for about the last 8 days in a row. The ewcm could definitely be semen - tmi!!!

rainbowflower
July 4th, 2011, 01:13 PM
had you used the cheapies before?
with the cheapie ones I NEVER had a test line equal to or darker than the control line, but around OV it would go drastically darker than it had been the rest of the month

to test if the stuff is semen or not (apologies, this is gross) - take a sample and drop it in a pot of water. If it disolves or floats it's semen, if it blobs together and sinks it's EWCM! wonder how someone figured that trick out in the first place!

zanacal
July 4th, 2011, 01:17 PM
As you've used the same tests reliably in the past, I'd be inclined to think you haven't ovulated yet but that perhaps it's on its way - last month I had O pains and EWCM and was so surprised to get a negative OPK (makes me wonder whether my boys were indeed O babies or all cut offs!) - I got a positive the next day. Personally I think I'd DTD again tonight - did you manage to get hold of any Rephresh?

swish
July 4th, 2011, 01:43 PM
Lol rainbowflower, that's a bizarrely useful bit of information! Ok, I just did a opk from boots, not smiley face one but still, and the line is the same colour as the control line. Does that mean I haven't ovulate and am now in the surge? If so, should we just leave it or dtd tonight again. Last cycle I ovulated the day after pos opk. If I haven't ovulated, why the temp change after the whole cycle so far at exactly the same temp? Zanacal, I did get the rephresh and used it yesterday morning so I think I am good for that at least!!! Any help much appreciated

Out of the Blue
July 4th, 2011, 01:54 PM
Lol rainbowflower, that's a bizarrely useful bit of information! Ok, I just did a opk from boots, not smiley face one but still, and the line is the same colour as the control line. Does that mean I haven't ovulate and am now in the surge? If so, should we just leave it or dtd tonight again. Last cycle I ovulated the day after pos opk. If I haven't ovulated, why the temp change after the whole cycle so far at exactly the same temp? Zanacal, I did get the rephresh and used it yesterday morning so I think I am good for that at least!!! Any help much appreciated

Hey, Swish! It sounds to me like you're about to O b/c the lines are the same color. I would BD again tonight to seal the deal but that's just me.

BTW, my last cycle or 2 really had me guessing b/c I never seemed to get a +OPK (internet cheapies) but I did notice a bit of darker color around the time I think I O'ed. Before that, I have always gotten true +OPKs on my internet cheapies so I'm sort of thinking that for me, the diet may be making it a bit more difficult for me (which is good for the girl sway but reaaaaaallllllly annoying). I hope you're about to O and then you're off to the 2ww...So exciting! :cheer:

rainbowflower
July 4th, 2011, 02:27 PM
the surge could be on the way up or the way down, but does sound like O is imminent if it hasn't happened already :)

swish
July 4th, 2011, 02:27 PM
Am just going to go for it!!! Wasn't su about timing anyway and I really don't want to miss my chance this month, :nails:

Indira
July 4th, 2011, 02:38 PM
I agree with OotB, I think you´re def. about to O now! Finally! :happy:
I would DTD another time tonight to increase the possibility of pregnancy, but it depends on how much you believe in timing. And then you can relax !
Hope you will be in the 2WW very soon, and I put my chart in my signature again if you´re interested.

Zivic-Bubac
July 4th, 2011, 02:47 PM
Am just going to go for it!!! Wasn't su about timing anyway and I really don't want to miss my chance this month, :nails:

Swish, I got my DD2 with frequent BDing through O ( and DD1 with frequent BDing without idea when I Oed :rofl:)
So I say - go for it!!!! :cheer:

zanacal
July 4th, 2011, 03:05 PM
Best get busy swish :wink:

FWIW I used a digital OPK last month and took an IC at the same time - I don't think I'd have considered the IC a positive if I hadn't done it alongside the digital because the line wasn't as dark as the control line.

It sounds like perfect timing considering you used the Rephresh yesterday and I guess you're on the antihistimines too? I have everything crossed (literally, I'm trying to lower my testosterone don't you know!) for a BFP this first month, you deserve it after such a long wait :kiss:

Mochagirl
July 4th, 2011, 03:20 PM
I say dtd tonight for sure! I can't wait until you join us in the 2WW!

swish
July 5th, 2011, 01:04 AM
Thank you all so much, you've made me feel very reassured!:happy:
Hopefully we are finally done with dtd this cycle!!! Fx now for ovulation. Z-b, it's so good to hear that this is how you got your girls!!! Will keep you posted!

swish
July 5th, 2011, 01:07 AM
Indira, thanks for posting your chart, I've never had temps like that before but maybe that's what is happening to me this cycle!

swish
July 5th, 2011, 07:49 AM
This morning my temp was 97.50 and I got another positive on opk. Does this mean this is ovulation day, do you get a positive on ovulation day? Or is it the day before? What do you think?

Mochagirl
July 5th, 2011, 07:52 AM
Once I got a positive, it stayed positive for several days. I took the first + as a sign that O was coming, then used other signals (cervix, cm) to tell me when it had happened. They say it happens 1-3 days from your first +, but it always happens within 24 hours for me. Good luck!

atomic sagebrush
July 8th, 2011, 11:58 AM
As you've used the same tests reliably in the past, I'd be inclined to think you haven't ovulated yet but that perhaps it's on its way - last month I had O pains and EWCM and was so surprised to get a negative OPK (makes me wonder whether my boys were indeed O babies or all cut offs!) - I got a positive the next day. Personally I think I'd DTD again tonight - did you manage to get hold of any Rephresh?

TOTALLY! I think a LOT of baby boys that people SWEAR were conceived on O, were actually cut offs.

atomic sagebrush
July 8th, 2011, 12:00 PM
This morning my temp was 97.50 and I got another positive on opk. Does this mean this is ovulation day, do you get a positive on ovulation day? Or is it the day before? What do you think?

You can! You may have Oed twice so your surge was longer, so your first egg had already released and the second one popped out.

I was obviously not here when all this went down but I think 100% you did the right thing!