Intermittent fasting?

[Ellajames]

Hi! I was reading through some threads about skipping breakfast/fasting for 14-16 hours each day if trying to sway for a girl. I think I may have a bit of insulin resistance so I was wondering if this would still be safe for me to do. Would it actually end up being beneficial for insulin sensitivity? Thanks!!! (and I apologize is this particular question has already been answered, I looked but didn't see it)

[myurkanin817]

I think if u have IR they recommend on here to do the LE duet but a bit different. 3-4 meals per day, 50-60g protein. There's an essay on it called swaying under special circumstances. I'll try to find the link for you.

[myurkanin817]

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/9052-swaying-under-special-circumstances-part-3-pcos.html

[maidentomother]

IF is the excellent for insulin resistance, but you may need to do it gradually, slowly increasing the time between meals. But swaying or not, IF has been shown in studies to reduce insulin levels/increase insulin sensitivity.

[Ellajames]

Thanks! :) I read the essay, and got a lot of information. I believe is said that fasting up to 16 hours can be beneficial for insulin response. I still have such a hard time fasting for that long/skipping breakfast because everything I had previously read about says skipping breakfast is bad for blood sugar control. So now I really have to make a conscious effort to try to forget about that. So does that mean blood sugar upon waking stays around the same through the morning until one does eat? Even with a bit of insulin resistance? (I really don't need to lose weight as I'm already underweight for my height, and I do not have pcos - just glucose readings on the higher end of the normal range)

[myurkanin817]

I believe your sugar levels level out after your last meal of the day & will slowly keep dropping but remain "okay" during the night & following day until you eat again. My brother is a diabetic so I'm trying to remember what he told me.

[atomic sagebrush]

Fasting may be beneficial if you have IR. Originally they advised that anyone with insulin resistance eat small and frequent meals but new evidence is emerging that you may benefit more from one long "fast" during the day (it's really mostly overnight) where your insulin receptors can basically "rest".

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks! :) I read the essay, and got a lot of information. I believe is said that fasting up to 16 hours can be beneficial for insulin response. I still have such a hard time fasting for that long/skipping breakfast because everything I had previously read about says skipping breakfast is bad for blood sugar control. So now I really have to make a conscious effort to try to forget about that. So does that mean blood sugar upon waking stays around the same through the morning until one does eat? Even with a bit of insulin resistance? (I really don't need to lose weight as I'm already underweight for my height, and I do not have pcos - just glucose readings on the higher end of the normal range)

Blood sugar rises in the morning entirely of its own accord. But, there seems to be something about this process (your body burning off its own stores of fat for fuel) that sways pink and may also be beneficial for health.

Studies are NEVER going to agree. I think many of the pro-breakfast studies were not good ones, though (done in people who were already obese or insulin dependent diabetics, and their metabolisms and psychology may not represent the average person). The overnight fasting makes much more sense to me from an evolutionary perspective, since I find it highly unlikely that all our ancestors were eating 3 square meals a day plus snacks.

[Ellajames]

Wow, thanks for your response atomic! I understand much better now.
Would you still suggest a nice long overnight fast and skipping breakfast for someone who doesn't have much weight to lose? And would you still suggest the same calorie range as you typically suggest for pink swayers?

[WantingPink]

I haven't been diagnosed with IR but I can tell you I am very sensitive to carbs and the type of carbs I eat. Fasting actually makes me feel better. Large meals make me feel horrible. Too much of anything makes me feel tired. If this is how you feel too then don't worry about the fasting and skipping meals. I really do believe it is better for you. I feel like crap if I eat 5-6 times a day like they recommend. 2-3 very small meals is what makes me feel best.

[Ellajames]

Thanks wantingpink. I noticed that you did end up conceiving 2 girls! Did you skip breakfast and also lower the amount of carbs that you ate? Would you say that you had to up your protein intake?

[maidentomother]

When fasting I feel almost high...much better than after eating, which makes me sluggish. I can understand physics on fasting days that elude me on eating days! It is quite remarkable.

[atomic sagebrush]

Wow, thanks for your response atomic! I understand much better now.
Would you still suggest a nice long overnight fast and skipping breakfast for someone who doesn't have much weight to lose? And would you still suggest the same calorie range as you typically suggest for pink swayers?

yes to overnight fast and skipping breakfast, but eat upper level cals

[atomic sagebrush]

I do need to mention that there is a strong tendency amongst pink swayers to take a reasonable idea to the brink of insanity and thus I think that we should focus on the overnight "fast", skipping and pushing back breakfast a few hours, and avoiding snacks, as laid out in LE Diet. No one should be doing daylong fasts or juice fasts as a general rule *unless, like Maiden, you are very well informed about it and capable of doing so safely* and above all else the "I'm going to fast drinking nothing but Crystal Light" idea (which it's appaling the number of people who have suggested tht)

[WantingPink]

EllaJames I don't really like to eat breakfast. Never have as it makes me feel like crap the rest of the day. I would drink coffee with half and half and real organic maple syrup. There is something about real maple syrup that doesn't make me feel awful. So I did take in calories in the morning but not a lot. I did eat less protein overall (than with the boys) and ate smaller meals overall. I didn't eat more carbs but I did change the carbs I ate. With my boys I would get most of my carbs from fruit, veggies, quinoa, and long grain brown rice. With my girls I did switch to refined white carbs so I had to really watch amounts that I ate to keep from gaining weight. I am also a small person (5'1") so I think I probably require fewer calories than the average person and can get away with coffee in the morning and two small meals and a snack during the day.

Now that I am PG I have to eat all the time however my meals are very heavy protein/fat based which really helps with morning sickness. If I start eating carbs then the weight will pile on and my MS gets out of control.