Scared....1st tri screen bloodwork says high hcg!!! :((((

[Houseofblue]

So I had my nt scan and blood work last week...was measuring 13w1d. My scan went great, nasal bone present and nt was 1.8 or 1.9 (measured twice). Genetic counselor said my trisomy risk baseline was 1/200 because of my age (am 36 will be 37 when baby is born), then jumped to 1/300 after great scan.

Got a call from genetic counselor today that my bw was back and my hcg was high. This brings my risk up to 1/140. She said my other test results (papp-A and whatever else they test) were fine. She gave me the option of doing amino or Harmony/Panorama and I chose the latter, so going in to have blood drawn tomorrow...btw I don't get a choice in which test, they will choose whatever my insurance will cover.

So I spent almost 2 hours crying. :((( I am so scared!!!! I have one special needs child (autism) who may never be able to live independently and am terrified at the possibility of another special needs child.....please please please, any stories of high hcg around 12-14 weeks and baby was chromosomally normal???
At the moment I don't even care about gender, just want this to be a typical healthy baby. ;(((((((

[Rosie85]

Aww I am sorry you have to sit and worry. I have nothing to say to make you feel better as I know nothing about that stuff. Big hugs. Hope everything will be okay.

[Mrs_Incredible]

Hugs houseofblue. So sorry you have this worry. My sister was 1/17 for downs and her son is just perfect. Xx


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[Houseofblue]

Thank you guys and thanks so much Mrs Incredible!!! I need to hear stories like your sister!!!

Anyone know of anyone who had high hcg only, with everything else being fine, and had a typical, healthy baby???

[Houseofblue]

Mrs Incredible may I ask what made your sister's risk so high??

[nuthinbutpink]

I'm sure you're fine!! 1/140 means you have a 99.3% chance all is well!!

[LilithWiser1979]

I know it's useless telling you not to worry because you're a mom, and you will (I think it's in the job description!) but odds alone state that this LO is probably just fine. They just have to cover all their bases doing all the testing indicated.

Are you going to find out the gender?

[Houseofblue]

Thanks guys, I'm trying to stay positive...have a splitting headache now from all the crying :(

Lilith...yes definitely find out gender...honestly tho atm all I am concerned about is having a baby with normal chromosomes so that will be 2nd to my concerns

[angielorna]

I'm so sorry you're so stressed Houseofblue. Hopefully your hcg levels are just high because they are high and not because it's indicative of anything. I wish I had something I could say to take away your worry. Like others have said, there is a 139/140 chance your baby is completely healthy. Hugs to you and hope time goes quickly for you until you get your results.

ANige

[kitkat18]

Houseofblue I feel for you!! How stressful I had a friend too who had very high down stats 1/50 he is healthy and happy she had an amnio good luck honey thinking of you xxxxxx

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[Houseofblue]

Thanks for all the support guys...this is the first time I've ever had something" off" on a screening so it's scary to say the least. :(

[atomic sagebrush]

Those tests are complete crapola and if you had a good ultrasound I would not worry about it one iota. The vast majority of the time there will be something concerning on the ultrasound.

I have talked to tons of women who had false pos. on these tests (way way worse than your score!).

[Houseofblue]

Thanks atomic!!!! I had my Harmony blood draw today, won't relax until I get an all-clear! :(

Are u very familiar with these tests?? I got my report from LabCorp today. It says my Downs age risk is 1/162 before any testing, based only on age. It went down to 1/300 after great scan but jumped to 1/140 after test showed high hcg. The geneticist said my other bloods were normal and only hcg was off. The paper also says risk cutoff for Downs is 1/250...but my age risk starts at 1/162!! Does that mean a much younger person with the same results would be scored with a much less risk?

The sonographer did 3 measurements of the neck, which were 1.8, 1.9, and 2.0. The report uses the 2.0 to calculate my risk.

Here are my results:

NT: 2.0 mm
NT MoM: 1.18

Hcg value: 230.4 IU/mL
Hcg MoM: 3.21

PAPP-A value: 1695.0 ng/ml
PAPP-A MoM: 1.29

DIA value: 270.6 pg/ml
DIA MoM: 1.06

My trisomy 18 risk was <1/10,000

If anyone can help I would solo appreciate it, thanks!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes, I"m very familiar with them. I'm not going to go over your numbers because I do not think it serves any purpose. your numbers are fine and not even concerning. Those tests are terrible, terrible tests of which I've seen literally hundreds of women get false positives (and I mean 1 out of 10 and nothing like your test result, which I do not even think is scary at all). I think they are going to stop being used within the next 3 years in favor of Harmony,etc.

Every time I know of someone who really did have a baby with an issue, it was glaringly obvious on the ultrasound. If you got a clean ultrasound (and in fact so good that it reduced your perceived risk), the odds are sky high this is simply a false positive and I am sorry you're worrying over it, because it's all but certain your baby is perfect in every way.

[Houseofblue]

Thanks so much atomic, your words are very comforting!! If I'm being honest I've been a mess since I got the test results and am terrified go get my Harmony results...I've read probably every thread online about high hcg, the vast majority (just like you said) turn out just fine but some don't and those few that don't terrify me.

I already have a special needs child (autism) who is moderately functioning, minimally verbal,and will probably be living with us for the rest of his life...I can't have another like this. :( :( I just pray I don't have to make any very difficult decisions. :((( Honestly....and I truly mean this....I don't care about gender anymore... all I want is for the geneticist to call and tell me my baby is fine... if she tells me it's a healthy boy I will feel nothing but RELIEF........this past week has been pure hell and I don't wish it on anyone.

I'll update once I know. I'm so depressed, I've detached myself from the pg and just don't care anymore...I was being so careful before about everything I ate or did and I just don't care anymore. ;( ;(

[Rosie85]

Been thinking of you. I hope it all turns out okay and I'm sure it will but more than understand your worry. Can't wait to hear baby is healthy and gender will be cool to know too afyer hearing baby is good.!

[SamS_TTCPink]

Thinking of you too Houseofblue. How long til you get your Harmony results?

Praying that everything comes back ok. xx

[angielorna]

Thinking of you....how much longer? I hope you get the results soon so you can put your mind to rest an focus on the rest of your pregnancy with your healthy baby.

Angie

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks so much atomic, your words are very comforting!! If I'm being honest I've been a mess since I got the test results and am terrified go get my Harmony results...I've read probably every thread online about high hcg, the vast majority (just like you said) turn out just fine but some don't and those few that don't terrify me.

I already have a special needs child (autism) who is moderately functioning, minimally verbal,and will probably be living with us for the rest of his life...I can't have another like this. :( :( I just pray I don't have to make any very difficult decisions. :((( Honestly....and I truly mean this....I don't care about gender anymore... all I want is for the geneticist to call and tell me my baby is fine... if she tells me it's a healthy boy I will feel nothing but RELIEF........this past week has been pure hell and I don't wish it on anyone.

I'll update once I know. I'm so depressed, I've detached myself from the pg and just don't care anymore...I was being so careful before about everything I ate or did and I just don't care anymore. ;( ;(

THESE TESTS DON'T WORK. I can't stress this strongly enough. (warning atomic tough love coming now) Get your head back in the pregnancy game and do what you need to do to ensure a healthy pregnancy!!

It is a screening test to determine who ~might~ want to do an amnio. That's the ONLY purpose of them. The ultrasound you got tells you a zillion trillion kajillion better quality of data and to suddenly start not caring about what you eat or drink or smoke or whatever on the basis of one of these ridiculous tests that are almost always wrong, it's just a huge step in the wrong direction.

The fact is, you know and I know that there is NO way you can detect autism from one of these tests. Other stuff goes wrong in pregnancies too, birth injuries, etc. and there is and never will be any kind of guarantee, and it ain't coming from one of these tests, that's for darn sure!!!

Please, please take a step back and look at this with fresh eyes because you are worrying yourself sick over something that is not worthy of your concern.

[Houseofblue]

Thank you everyone and ESP Atomic!!!!!!!! You were SO RIGHT Atomic, the genetic counselor just called and told me no Downs (well the lowest risk Harmony can give)!!!!!!! :) :) :) omg I started crying on the phone I was so relieved!!!!!!! Same thing with the other trisomies!!
I asked about gender but she said they didn't test for it??? Oh well. I'm on cloud 9 right now!! I will have another u/s in a week BC they want to check placenta etc so maybe I'll find out then.
Thank you everyone for being so kind and getting me through this!!!!!" :)

[angielorna]

I'm so happy for you!!!! I'm so relieved you can relax and enjoy your pregnancy now :) xo

Angie

[angielorna]

(I bet it's a girl)
Angie

[kitkat18]

Yah!!!! House of blue xxxx

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[Mrs_Incredible]

Fantastic houseofblue. So pleased for you!! Xx


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[Houseofblue]

Thanks ladies!! I can stop crying and googling "high hcg" every single second now!!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Huge congrats!! :)

[SamS_TTCPink]

That's awesome news!! Relax and enjoy your pregnancy now. 😊💜

[Houseofblue]

Thanks mum! Cute pic BTW :)