First time and trying for a girl! Please help!

[NikkiB1986]

Hello, my husband and I want to have a daughter. I had a very traumatic miscarriage several years ago and haven't tried again til now for fear it would happen again. Not to get too tmi but my doc told me my miscarriage would look like chunks of hamburger and not to worry but I ended up passing my entire fetus. I'll never forget how it was the size of my thumb yet I could see every detail. I buried her (never found out sex but I wanted a girl) in a ring box at the park where my husband and I got married. It's still so hard for me to see little girls without crying. After seeing literally everyone in my family (even teens) having kids around me I can't take it anymore. I need my little girl. I promised hubby a lil boy next so he's agreed to this. LOL!

I've heard those in poorer health conceive girls so maybe I'm already fine lol. I'm 5ft 2in tall and 90lbs so I'm pretty tiny already and my health isn't the greatest. I have scoliosis, anemia, depression, and finally got over my sulfur intolerance issues by cutting back on lots of food. I currently take a multivitamin (3 gummies a day) plus fiber gummies (2 a day). My usually diet consists of basmati rice, french bread pizza (from the frozen aisle), occasionally berries (blueberries, raspberries and strawberries), a banana every once in awhile and junk food. I'm trying to manage to remember to drink at least 1 bottle of water daily.

My Calendar (app on my phone) says I have an average of duration (period) of 4 days, with an average cycle of 33 days. And that my next ovulation day is August 2, 2014 and my fertile days are July 28-Aug 3rd. I'm not entirely certain this is accurate though because it is sometimes off by a day or two. Also I've read that cervical muscus (or what I call kitty cream lol) is supposed to be like egg whites when ovulation is occuring and can get your panties very wet. But the problem with that for me is that I've always had wet panties (which is why I wear panty liners every day) so not sure how to tell.

I've been reading now for weeks and my head is spinning. There are so many contradictory things about swaying (foods, supplements, timing, etc) and now I'm so overwhelmed at this point. I don't know what to do so I was hoping maybe some of you ladies with success stories could point me in the right direction. I need something that will help me pretty quickly because hubby wants to start next month so I have a month to get prepared. All I want is my little girl and I want to make sure I make the best decision to get my lil girl.

Please help. :(

[blueeyedguys]

If you can afford it, I think a sway plan from Atomic might be your best bet.

[covered in blue]

Hello and welcome. So sorry to hear of your miscarriage! That must have been heartbreaking.

I'd start by reading up on the LE diet and make sure you are within the limits. - the lower limits are important as are the upper limits.
Another thing that has been getting good results is the exercise. 60 mins a day cardio. If you can include this it might help your sway.
The last of the main sway tactics as I see it is the one attempt. You can use Ovulation prediction tests and have one attempt when that is positive, or DTD once every 4 days which should get you one attempt within your fertile window.

If that just seems all too confusing you can also buy a personalised sway plan on here and get the coaching that goes along with it :)

All the best with your sway :). And as a Mum of 3 boys I just have to add that boys are awesome and should you end up with one of them instead, you are in for a treat :)

[atomic sagebrush]

I"m so sorry for your loss.

Please give me a bump on this tomorrow as it's late morning here and I'd like to answer this when I am fresh first thing in the morning.

:hugs: and we are glad you found us.

[txmomof3beautifulboys]

bump

[atomic sagebrush]

thanks TX!

First of all I'm so sorry for your loss and that your doctor did not adequately prepare you for what would happen.

Your diet and body type are already pretty darn pink friendly and I would just have you continue with that. IF anything, it's TOO low nutrient and I'd like to see you add in 1 serving of full fat dairy per day (yogurt is fine), 4 eggs a week, and one serving salmon if you can do that.

I would continue the fiber gummies but reduce the multivitamins to 3x a week. I think since you eat such a low nutrient diet normally we need to leave them in. I would also get an additional folic acid supplement and take enough folic to add up to 1200 mcg if you are under 35, 1600 if you're over 35 (so you would take into account the amount in your vitamin gummy if any and add enough additional folic to equal those amoutns)

THe phone app calendars are fine for anyone trying to just get pg provided they have a regular cycle. Most of us use OPK tests, but you don't need to do that, and it may stress you out if you did. I would just aim to have one attempt in those fertile days on your phone app. Don't worry about monitoring your cervical mucus, you don't need to pin it down any more closely than that. (on your diet it would not surprise me if you had very little EWCM and that's why you aren't sure what it looks like - which is probably good for TTC a girl anyway.)

I do want to give a disclaimer here, when people are really struggling with a strong gender desire to such an extent as yours, please proceed with caution. Swaying cannot ever be a guarantee and some people are better off investigating high tech methods of gender selection like IVF/PGD if they are really really going to be devastated with an opposite. I'm not inside your head so I can't know if you're in that group or not, just want to throw the possibility out there. :)

[NikkiB1986]

Yeah my husband is worried that I'll end up with post postpartum if I don't get my girl and honestly I am too. I don't know how to describe it but it's like this desire for a daughter has taken a life of it's own and I can't control it. I don't know why or how to "relax." Plus I have depression already so my chances are pretty high. My therapist told me even with a girl she thinks I still may due to my previous life, tragedies and state of mind. I really think if I do have a girl I would be too happy for that but maybe I don't know since it's chemical.

As for my diet. I have a big problem. I have sulfur intolerance (eggs landed me on my death bed 2 years ago from severe dehydration due to diarrhea and puking no exaggeration so I'm highly sensitive) and lactose intolerance (yogurt seems to be ok) so my food choices are EXTREMELY limited. Any alternatives? Salmon is no problem because I LOVE seafood! :) But did you mean salmon once a week or once a day? Also I'm a bit nervous to do cardio because I get winded just from going up a flight of stairs, plus my heart races & I get light headed just from getting up after sitting on the couch. Any suggestions on how to start?

Oh and just to verify, you said 3 multivitamins a week, keep the fibers to 2 times a day, and add 1200 mcg?

[NikkiB1986]

Oh and this is the list I go by when avoiding food: High Sulphur-Sulfur food list « livingnetwork.co.za (http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/chelationnetwork/food/high-sulfur-sulphur-food-list/)

This is the food I'm ok to have: Low sulfur-sulphur food list « livingnetwork.co.za (http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/chelationnetwork/food/high-sulfur-sulphur-food-list/low-sulfur-food-list/)

[NikkiB1986]

I also have been on some lactose pills and have been able to eat some dairy but still get gas sometimes lol, so I don't do it too often.

[NikkiB1986]

Oh and one more thing could you make me alist of all the abbreviations you guys use on here and what they are? I don't mean to sound stupid but I'm really new to all this. LOL! :)

[NikkiB1986]

Oh and before I forget, thank you to everyone who responded. I really appreciate all the help and love you are showing me. I don't have friends because I've never really had a stable home long enough to make friends when growing up and now I'm not really social so all I have is Hubby but don't want to overwhelm him so this is so wonderful for me. :)

THANK YOU!!!! :heart::Flower:

[blueeyedguys]

Getting light headed standing up could be a sign of low blood pressure. Are you ok walking? The cardio doesn't have to intense.

Abbreviations list http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/2069-abbreviation-translation.html

[Bigwish]

I'm sorry for all you had to experience in the past and still feeling the pain of it.

My thoughts are that you'd better consider high tech before swaying, since you are at risk for post partum depression. Wouldn't that be an option for you? I'm worried because i think the harder you sway, the more you want to be rewarded with you desired gender. An opposite, then, is very hard to handle. A few people i spoke to irl felt that way including me, i think, if i heared boy. Please look after yourself.

At least, as your diet is so complicated with your intolerances, buy a personalized plan.

[atomic sagebrush]

oh sorry salmon once a week. Since eggs are a no-go then do salmon twice a week. Yes just use full fat yogurt. (i"m also lactose intolerant and can handle yogurt just fine)

The thing about "postpartum" is that some major hormonal stuff occurs when you ahve a baby. For most of us it actually makes it EASIER to fall in love with our baby and even if you were in the small group that do have some pp issues, they do have medication that can help. It is NOT caused by gender disappointment - sometimes when people have PP depression, their gender disappointment gets wrapped up in those emotions but the vast majority of us have no problem bonding with our babies.

You would have to make a decision about whether to find out gender during pregnancy. You would then have many months in which to make the adjustment and get used to the idea.

[NikkiB1986]

Yes I'm ok walking as long as it's not fast and not for too long. Thanks for the abbreviation list! :)

High tech options are out of the question, and can't afford a diet plan. We're not rich, we are the opposite of rich. :(


As for the salmon twice a week, would those omega3 fish oil pills work the same way? How many should I take? I can still eat salmon, I was just asking because we have some Omega3 pills in the house.

[NikkiB1986]

I definitly plan on finding out the gender during pregnancy and I heard of a new test that allows you to know within the first 9 weeks so I'll do that. That way I can prepare myself either way and (hopefully not have to but if it happens) cope with any disappointments and come to acceptance.

[ratcliffe1811]

Getting light headed standing up could be a sign of low blood pressure.


I get the light headed and it goes black when i stand up and sometimes for no reason, went the drs and they did a tilt table test (strapped upright to a table for 45mins) and found iv got something called syncope. Might be worth a trip to the drs to rule anything out?

[atomic sagebrush]

No, I want it to be actual salmon because you need the protein too.

Yes the new blood tests are getting good results for us.

[NikkiB1986]

My husband just went out today and went shopping. He got me a bottle of 400mcg folic acid, so I'll have to just take 3 per day to equal out to 1200 you suggested. Plus, he got a big bag of wild caught salmon! That should allow me salmon twice a week for a few weeks.

He also got me some healthier snacks: strawberries, raspberries, blueberries, cherries, nectarines, plums, apples, pomegranates, cucumbers, tomatoes, and yellow mini peppers. He also got rice pudding, raspberry chocolates, mint chocolates, cookies, chips and other "junk food" goodies for when I don't want the fruit and veggies! :)

He had a problem finding the FULL FAT yogurt. The only thing the Kroger's by our house seemed to have was no fat so he got me Chobani. So could you please give me a brand name to look for? And is full fat the same as yogurt made with whole milk? I found something called Stonyfield online and may look for it in the stores if you think that's a good idea. Also what's the difference between greek and regular? Which one would be better?

[Hopingforaprincess]

I have been eating Brown Cow yogurt...I love the maple flavor. I can only find it at the healthier food stores like Whole Foods.

[NikkiB1986]

Would this work for a once a day yogurt?

Stonyfield® Organic YoBaby Vanilla Baby Yogurt made with Whole Milk (http://www.stonyfield.com/products/baby-kids/yobaby/vanilla)

[NikkiB1986]

Hubby and I had a problem finding the FULL FAT yogurt. So could you please give me a brand name to look for? And is full fat the same as yogurt made with whole milk? I found something called Stonyfield online and may look for it in the stores if you think that's a good idea. Also what's the difference between Greek and regular? Which one would be better? Would this work for a once a day yogurt serving?

Stonyfield® Organic YoBaby Vanilla Baby Yogurt made with Whole Milk (http://www.stonyfield.com/products/baby-kids/yobaby/vanilla)

[atomic sagebrush]

My husband just went out today and went shopping. He got me a bottle of 400mcg folic acid, so I'll have to just take 3 per day to equal out to 1200 you suggested. Plus, he got a big bag of wild caught salmon! That should allow me salmon twice a week for a few weeks.

He also got me some healthier snacks: strawberries, raspberries, blueberries, cherries, nectarines, plums, apples, pomegranates, cucumbers, tomatoes, and yellow mini peppers. He also got rice pudding, raspberry chocolates, mint chocolates, cookies, chips and other "junk food" goodies for when I don't want the fruit and veggies! :)

He had a problem finding the FULL FAT yogurt. The only thing the Kroger's by our house seemed to have was no fat so he got me Chobani. So could you please give me a brand name to look for? And is full fat the same as yogurt made with whole milk? I found something called Stonyfield online and may look for it in the stores if you think that's a good idea. Also what's the difference between greek and regular? Which one would be better?

Yes any yogurt made with whole milk is what you're looking for. Not skim, 1% OR 2%, whole milk. THere are many brands and you've already listed several.

[atomic sagebrush]

the baby yogurt is fine, eat two because serving size is smaller

[NikkiB1986]

I told hubby about the yogurt and he promised to pick some up next time he's paid. As far as diet, if I started my diet (salmon twice a week, yogurt every day, 1200mcg folic acid per day, vitamins 3times a week, and fiber gummies daily) on the 28th, how long should I wait before we actually try? I've seen some places say a few months and some say a few weeks.

Also I've read many conflicting statements about timing and methods. My husband bought me some RepHresh and Clearblue Advanced Digital ovulation test (10 sticks) to help figure out this timing stuff. I read that putting a finger glob of RepHresh before sex and another glob after will help sway a girl because it'll keep the environment at a PH of 4.5 even after the sperm get in there. And I want to up my chances any way I can.

I'm thinking of having hubby take a hot bath and then trying 1-2 times during the time my calendar app says I'm fertile, plus maybe the o+12 thing (since I heard it's very girl friendly). Would that be enough or should I aim for more? Should I do girl on top or missionary (where he's on top)? Should I lay there after or go quickly run in the bath and wash off?

[NikkiB1986]

Also it may be nothing but my husband and I had sex on the 4th (2 days after my app says I ovulated) and about a day after I had started bleeding and kept bleeding for 4 days and then had a fever. Then it all went away but I'm supposed to have started my period this month and nothing so far. Is it possible that I miscarried again? Does the sperm+egg process go that fast or does it take a few days? If it was a miscarriage, how long can I expect my period to be on a hiatus? I just wonder because the ovulation test says I have to start testing on day 10 and if I don't have my period I don't know how I'll figure that out. I went to the doc just to make sure I'm ok and she said I just have a little yeast and the pregnancy test was negative. So not sure.

[atomic sagebrush]

I would have you start trying right away, it may take a few months to get pregnant.

We are not getting good results with the RepHresh. THe same number of people are getting boys both with and without it, and this number is the same as the overall success rates of the site, meaning that it is doing nothing. It is preventing people from getting pregnant. If you want to give it a try that is totally up to you but I would def. have you use it further out than right before sex (it will kill off all sperm) and do not use anything afterwards (it will kill sperm and also it's too late to do any good anyway)

Try ONLY one time. That has gotten by far the best results for us.

Timing does not sway. It has been 1000% debunked and as for O+12, you may as well take a birth control pill. Do not bother with it, it doesn't work. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/7691-trouble-timing.html
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-girl/35539-no-12-a.html The only reason why O+12 even looks like it's doing anything is because it is one attempt. The success rates for O+12 and one attempt at any time in the fertile window are identical. So to try for O+12 and drop one attempt is a huge mistake. Keep the one attempt and have it at a point in your cycle (before ovulation) when you're actually in with a chance of pregnancy.

[atomic sagebrush]

The apps are not reliable. Please don't put too much stock into them. All they are is when the average person will ovulate based on your info, but that is not set in stone and changes all the time.

That was NOT a miscarriage. It takes 7-10 days for a fertilized egg to implant and there just is no way that bleeding a couple days after ovulation would have triggered any kind of bleeding. What most likely happened, is that around ovulation your cervix becomes very soft and can be easily injured by BD and sometimes this makes a little spotting. The fever is unusual and I"m glad the doctor checked that out. One time I had a fever with a pretty bad yeast infection and hopefully that was all that it was. Have you ever had a transvaginal ultrasound to check for fibroids?? They can cause midcycle bleeding sometimes. Another possibility is that you perhaps ovulated earlier than your app thought and that bleeding was AF.

I would also get some cheap OPK and test with them one time a day. The Clearblues are SO expensive and strangely have not been super reliable for us. The nice thing about the cheap OPK is you can use them every day and if you get what looks like a positive, you can then use the Clearblues for confirmation of that.

[NikkiB1986]

I just started my period yesterday so yay I can figure out my cycle again! Ok we'll start right away (this cycle once my period is over) and do only once like you said. I'm thinking maybe 2 days before ovulation would be good. I'll be testing with the ovulation tests to find out when that is.

So since timing doesn't matter is there any truth to the PH theory that if you keep PH at 4.5 you'll get a girl? If so what would you suggest to help keep it down if it goes up on the day we plan to try? If I can use my RepHresh, what time of day should I use it and how much (we plan on trying at night)?

Yeah when I went to the doc she said the yeast may have made my cervix sensitive to injury and could have bled for a bit after that. I'm going to my doc tomorrow to ask about the fevers since they keep coming back every other day and at the same time (night) and almost the same temp give or take a decimal (99.3-99.7). Weird.

So is it ok having hubby take a hot bath before we try? I heard it's good for girl sway. Also when trying should I do girl on top or missionary (where he's on top)? Once they're up there should I just lay on the bed a bit (how long) then go pee and wash off or go quickly pee and run in the bath to wash off?

[NikkiB1986]

Oh one more thing, should I have him abstain from any ejaculation for a week prior, or should he be ejaculating ever other day? I've heard conflicting arguments about this with girls and I'd like your take on it.

[blueeyedguys]

Not sure his age, but if he's older 35/40+, he shouldn't abstain. Both frequent release & abstain need to be done for at least 7 days in a row.

I think Atomic said neither seem to be swaying very much, though.

[atomic sagebrush]

pH essay here http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/11684-ph-pickle.html After I got a boy with pH of 4.5 it was awfully hard to believe in it any more and I"ve seen tons of opposites going both ways.

If you want to use the repHResh I would use it more like 8-12 hours before you plan to attempt and not any sooner. Amount is up to you, the more you use, the less likely conception will be.

I can't remember the reason why but fevers are most likely to spike at night.

You are asking me a lot of specific stuff here and I think a lot of that you need to decide for yourself. I can't comment on all of it because I don't have all the info about you guys and your medical history and how big a hurry you are to get pg, and a lot of it probably doesn't make a ton of difference anyway. I have essays on most of the questions you ask in the index in my signature below, and then based on that info you can decide for yourself.

[atomic sagebrush]

re frequency, most people want to start off including it and then it should be among the first things to be dropped if BFN

[NikkiB1986]

My husband and I are both 28 so according to many articles we're just entering the fertility decline and want to get started right away.

I'll only use RepHresh if it's high and only a finger amount as suggested on another site somewhere, it seems to stay the same every day (color between 4-5).

Yeah my fevers are always at night even with the air blasting. So I'll definitely ask my doc about that (realizes I said the appointment was today and meant Wednesday).

Sorry if I'm overwhelming you with questions, I just want to make sure I'm doing the best I can.

[NikkiB1986]

Ok so sorry to bug you again but I just read somewhere that full fat yogurt and fish sways blue. So is that true? If so how can I veer it back to pink?

[covered in blue]

Atomic recommend it for you because your diet is so restrictive. It's for your own health and the health of your baby. For most of us it probably would sway blue but in the context of your diet it is fine.

[atomic sagebrush]

At 28 you are not in fertility decline. that is just a statistical average where across the whole population slightly more people start to have fertility issues. Please don't start worrying about your fertility at age 28 without any good reason to. :)

Your pH will stay low like that throughout your cycle, it will only go up around ovulation. ONly worry about pH at ovulation (if that) because that's when it is supposed to go up. IT's naturally low the rest of the time.

You're not overwhelming me, you are just asking things that I can't even tell you without more info and some of it you just have to decide for yourself or else get a personalized plan because there's no way I can advise you without more info.

[atomic sagebrush]

Atomic recommend it for you because your diet is so restrictive. It's for your own health and the health of your baby. For most of us it probably would sway blue but in the context of your diet it is fine.

Yep. You have a diet so restrictive that it may make it harder for you to conceive and carry a pregnancy. So you then will need to add some things into your diet that can make up for that. I am not going to give you any advice that will undo your sway, I want your sway to succeed - but in a safe and healthy way.

There are no magic pink or blue foods. It's your diet as a whole that matters. Someone with a very restrictive diet can eat "boy" foods and in fact may even NEED to because they may lack basic nutrient stores that the rest of us can draw off of. Some people, on the other hand, who always eat super healthy and have a lot of nutrients stored up in our bodies may have to drop way back in order to sway pink. the "magic foods" idea is just a myth.

[NikkiB1986]

Hey I just realized that my vitagumies you told me to take 3 times a week (3 per day) have 400mcg of folic acid in each gummy. I've been taking the gummies Mon, Wed and Fri. However I have also been taking 3 folic acid pills a day (400mcg each pill) and therefore have already been getting 1200mcg.

So my question is can I overdose on folic acid? On Mon, Wed and Fri this past week I've technically been consuming 2400mcg. Should I only take the gummies on Mon, Wed and Fri and cut out the daily folic pills on those days? Or is this fine?

[NikkiB1986]

Oops I might have read the label wrong.20159 Does this mean 400mcg per gummy or per 3 gummies?

If it's per 3 gummies then should I continue taking the 3 folic a day even on Mon, Wed and Fri?

[NikkiB1986]

Oh also I forgot to mention I've started using the ovulation tests and for the past 3 days (including today) the result was a blinking smilie face which means high fertility. According to my calendar I will ovulate on the 6th. If I take the test tomorrow and I get the same result should I just go for it, wait til the stationary smilie face (peak fertility) or wait another cycle?

The test says to have sex on peak fertility day and the day after to ensure a successful pregnancy. However I remember you saying to only have sex once per cycle. So what day should we try?

[essnce629]

You want to dtd on "peak fertility" day when you have the stationary smiley. This is a positive opk and means you will ovulate in the next 8-48 hours most likely. If you dtd before that then you risk the sperm already being dead by the time you do ovulate.

And you're only supposed to dtd once during your "fertile period" not just once your whole cycle. Your fertile period is only about a 4 day period-- mostly the 3 days before ovulation and the day of ovulation.

[maidentomother]

Wait until you get a solid smilie then DTD once. Good luck!

[NikkiB1986]

Thanks for advice on the peak day ladies. Anyone know anything about the first question I asked (about the folic acid)?

[NikkiB1986]

So Hubby and I did "the baby dance" at midnight tonight (I mean 7hrs ago). We did it doggie style because missionary was*aggravating*something and causing pain. He had me lay down with a pillow under my hips because it was too much pressure on my knees. When he came he pulled out so it was further away (impressed with his self-restraint lol). After about a minute or two I jumped up to run to the bathroom and alot spilled out down my legs. Hopefully it wasn't all of it!

Now it's 7am (finally going to bed) and decided to check my ph and it is really high. I attached a picture.

Also my mucus is very springy (the best word to describe it), thick, shiny, clear, and it was a rather large glob. Is this ph level and mucus type normal and good for fertilization?

[maidentomother]

Sounds good! Yeah, BDing will REALLY bring your pH up - though it sounds like you are having nice fertile, EWCM, too, whuch is also higher in pH. That's definitely the best for fertilization, though if you have a lot, you might want to take some Zyrtec to dry it up a bit.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hey I just realized that my vitagumies you told me to take 3 times a week (3 per day) have 400mcg of folic acid in each gummy. I've been taking the gummies Mon, Wed and Fri. However I have also been taking 3 folic acid pills a day (400mcg each pill) and therefore have already been getting 1200mcg.

So my question is can I overdose on folic acid? On Mon, Wed and Fri this past week I've technically been consuming 2400mcg. Should I only take the gummies on Mon, Wed and Fri and cut out the daily folic pills on those days? Or is this fine?

If you get excess folic acid, you just will pee out any extra. I wouldn't take any more than that though.

[atomic sagebrush]

oh I hate it when vitamins do that. the 400 mcg folic is for 3 gummies.

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh also I forgot to mention I've started using the ovulation tests and for the past 3 days (including today) the result was a blinking smilie face which means high fertility. According to my calendar I will ovulate on the 6th. If I take the test tomorrow and I get the same result should I just go for it, wait til the stationary smilie face (peak fertility) or wait another cycle?

The test says to have sex on peak fertility day and the day after to ensure a successful pregnancy. However I remember you saying to only have sex once per cycle. So what day should we try?

Just DTD once on peak.

[atomic sagebrush]

It's normal for pH to go up after intercourse. I can't see your picture but after 7 hours have passed, the sperm are long gone up inside where the stuff happening in your VJ can't affect them any more anyway.

THat may be mucus or may be leftover semen. Again, 7 hours after the fact it's a done deal and there's nothing you can/should do at this point.

[atomic sagebrush]

Sounds good! Yeah, BDing will REALLY bring your pH up - though it sounds like you are having nice fertile, EWCM, too, whuch is also higher in pH. That's definitely the best for fertilization, though if you have a lot, you might want to take some Zyrtec to dry it up a bit.

I prefer people only take antihistamine before attempt and not after bcause the sperm and egg will need some fluid to move thru and we want that to be thin enough to allow the process to happen. :)

[EveSweetheart]

:baby: yep, a good question!

[maidentomother]

I prefer people only take antihistamine before attempt and not after bcause the sperm and egg will need some fluid to move thru and we want that to be thin enough to allow the process to happen. :)

Even if you have HUGE amounts of EWCM? IME, antihistamines dry up most but not all of my EWCM; I still have some right at my cervix (as per speculum). Fortunately when I'm actively on the LE & Vitex I don't get much EWCM at all, but if I were ever to try randomly while not swaying, I'd be concerned about my mega EWCM.

[atomic sagebrush]

As always, your call to make on that. Trouble is we honestly don't know how it works, how much or if the egg is even negatively affected by antihistamine, etc.

[atomic sagebrush]

sooo...i tend to err on the side of not having anyone use it after attempt, just for caution's sake.

[NikkiB1986]

I know it's been awhile but I'm just popping in to get some more advice. We tried for 3 cycles and nothing happened so I went to get everything looked at on my and he got a semen analysis. Turns out I've got lots of healthy eggs and my tubes are open, so nothing is wrong with me. His count is high, his motility is high, his ph is 7.6 but his morphology is 4% (which the doc said is normal). So I'm not sure why nothing has happened yet.

We're trying again, round 2! So now he want to know if there's anything on his end he can do to help. I saw that some pages suggested taking cranberry supplements, abstaining from coffee, low salt and the doc suggested taking walnuts to improve morphology. What do you think? Anything you would add?

Oh by the way I've tried to keep up eating salmon twice a week, and two yogurts a day but money has been tight since hubby lost his job for a bit. So I am eating more like 1 every day or two, and salmon every once in awhile (maybe on a few times a month). He got a job again so I will be going back to salmon twice a week, and yogurt once a day (it's too expensive for 2x day). Hopefully that's enough. Oh plus I have been taking the multivitamin gummy 3x day, fiber gummy 2x, and folic acid 3x day consistently (for the most part, sometimes I forget a day or two).

[NikkiB1986]

I know it's been awhile but I'm just popping in to get some more advice. We tried for 3 cycles and nothing happened so I went to get everything looked at on my and he got a semen analysis. Turns out I've got lots of healthy eggs and my tubes are open, so nothing is wrong with me. His count is high, his motility is high, his ph is 7.6 but his morphology is 4% (which the doc said is normal). So I'm not sure why nothing has happened yet.

We're trying again, round 2! So now he want to know if there's anything on his end he can do to help. I saw that some pages suggested taking cranberry supplements, abstaining from coffee, low salt and the doc suggested taking walnuts to improve morphology. What do you think? Anything you would add?

Oh by the way I've tried to keep up eating salmon twice a week, and two yogurts a day but money has been tight since hubby lost his job for a bit. So I am eating more like 1 every day or two, and salmon every once in awhile (maybe on a few times a month). He got a job again so I will be going back to salmon twice a week, and yogurt once a day (it's too expensive for 2x day). Hopefully that's enough. Oh plus I have been taking the multivitamin gummy 3x day, fiber gummy 2x, and folic acid 3x day consistently (for the most part, sometimes I forget a day or two).

[atomic sagebrush]

Well, 3 cycles is not unusual at all to not conceive in that time and I"m actually surprised your doctor was willing to check you out, usually they'd make you wait 6-12 months.

Are you talking about swaying or getting pregnant??? If you're having trouble conceiving I would not do the cranberry but would do Olive Leaf instead for him. Skipping coffee and salt are debunked and we have gotten better results for pink without dropping them. Walnuts are fine in moderation.

CAn you tell me the other stuff you're doing so I can help you increase your odds of conceiving?? Supps, jellies, etc.

[NikkiB1986]

Yeah you are but I lied, since I was getting worried. I didn't want to waste time waiting that long to find out something was wrong or not. Before I had my miscarriage, we only tried once and got pregnant right away, so this made me nervous that nothing has happened in 3 tries. But if you say it's normal I guess I won't worry so much.

I still definitely want to sway pink! Olive leaf? What's that? He's supposed to be taking 1cup walnuts daily according to the doc.

As for what we're doing, all my updates are in my new post here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-girl/51147-round-two-more-questions-help-asap.html

[atomic sagebrush]

olive leaf extract 500-1000 mg dry leaf a day taken daily and then weaned off gradually at BFP

think I covered everything else in other thread