What are my chances with this more "laid back" PINK sway plan?

[Mrs.Ingram]

I posted a few months ago and had this elaborate plan laid out; looking back, it was pretty hard core. I've since realized that with my high strung (obsessive, boy-mom) personality, it's best to add as few stress triggers as possible in order to get our sweet girl. Here's what's in the new plan -- I'd LOVE to hear any opinions/feedback.

Me:
LE Diet (nearly vegetarian), skipping breakfast and snacks, little to no caffeine, lots of aspartame drinks,
60 minutes of exercise - at least 5 days a week,
Baby aspirin (UPDATE: I've now decided to remove the aspirin from our sway), folic acid, fiber,
One attempt at positive OPK,
Coming off of the birth control pill the month before our first attempt,
OH! And I'll be using a salt lamp for ions and already have a girl outfit under our bed.

Hubby:
500 - 1000 mg of OLE,
A 5-7 day abstain before our attempt
He does lawn care so walks upwards of 10-12 miles per day depending on the day (so his "boys" should stay nice and warm)

We were originally going to start TTC this month, but have changed plans and will now be starting in late September, so I'm just trying to get my ducks in a row. Thanks in advance, ladies!

[HopingForHairbows]

I think it all sounds good! The one thing I will note is that Atomic is no longer recommending the use of baby aspirin for future swayers. I was thinking about having my DH use the OLE... i think I might have him add it in if we are not successful this month.

[Mrs.Ingram]

Awesome! Thanks, Hairbows! Hopefully she'll chime in when she gets a minute, but do you remember why she said to exclude the aspirin? Is that recommendation just for pink swayers, or for everyone in general?

[HopingForHairbows]

Awesome! Thanks, Hairbows! Hopefully she'll chime in when she gets a minute, but do you remember why she said to exclude the aspirin? Is that recommendation just for pink swayers, or for everyone in general?

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/44062-lets-drop-aspirin-cranberry.html

Here's a link to the thread where she was discussing it. Hope that helps!

[Mrs.Ingram]

You are fantastic! Thanks for the link!!

[Abifasc]

I dont think that's laid back, it looks great!

[carmella_marie]

That's still a pretty good sway, not lite at all! I think a bug key is to not stress over it!

[Mrs.Ingram]

Thanks, ladies! I feel like there isn't anything in there that will cause me to stress out -- which to me is super important! I want for this experience to stay as positive as possible. Hope, hope, hope it is the key to my pink dream come true!! <3

[bluebonnet22]

That a great hard-core sway :) I will say atomic thinks caffeine either doesn't hurt or may even help a pink sway so if you love coffee and diet soda there's no reason to give it up unless you're just trying to be healthier.

[Mrs.Ingram]

Yeah, I'm going to cut out caffeine to reduce the likelihood of withdrawal headaches during the first trimester that I experienced with my boys. Plus, I'm really weary (as we often tend to think we need to do the opposite of what we did to conceive our boys) because I was drinking diet energy drinks and diet Pepsi like crazy when I conceived both of them. My husband is going to continue the diet drinks through conception, though.

Oh, and anyone that might know, I have another question: I have found that even when I'm on antihistamines (I have NOT tried sudafed yet), I still have an abundance of CM throughout the month, is there another way to reduce my CM? Should I use a vinegar douche before we BD? I know that the whole pH idea is out the window, but I need something to get rid of all that fluid before we BD.

[bluebonnet22]

Mrs. Ingram - have you been on the diet long? My ewcm is nearly gone after being on the diet for months.

[Mrs.Ingram]

Nope. Haven't started it yet. I'm currently doing a weight loss specific diet, because I know that losing a bunch of weight before getting pregnant is very pink (and I would love to lose 60 pounds, but 80 would be "ideal" for my size). Right now I'm doing low-cal, super low-carb, and a fair amount of protein with herbal drops. I will have switched to LE for about 3-4 weeks when we TTC. Do you think that will hurt our chances? My priority for right now is to lose a fair amount of weight before TTC, so I hope I'm not shooting myself in the foot here.

[bluebonnet22]

I've always been a big low carb/high protein person (and think it's the "healthiest" way to lose weight). I was against the LE diet at first, but I've lost 25 lbs on it (and I didn't have very much to lose, I could have easily lost much more if I had more to spare). I would switch to LE style weight loss 6 weeks minimum (ideally 12) before your attempt because it's the low fat and low protein that sways much much more than the weight loss itself.

[Mrs.Ingram]

I am doing low-fat, that and calories are the two biggest aspects of this diet. But, I'm only getting around 60ish grams of protein per day. Isn't that within LE guidelines?

[Mrs.Ingram]

Anyone else have any insight about my plan or my question about douching (just in case the diet doesn't reduce my amount of CM - I want to be prepared for any situation)?

[bluebonnet22]

Sorry it's hard to comment on your specific dietary plan without knowing more details, but I would focus on trying LE (maybe PCOS style for you?) 6 weeks out from your attempt. I'm not sure if you are currently eating meat, but I think the low protein/vegetarian aspects of LE definitely sway pink. Douching isn't recommended, but some girls use refresh/replens/acijel. I think zyrtec + veggie diet reduces EWCM enough for most people and honestly you do need SOME EWCM to even get pregnant so I don't think eliminating 100% of EWCM is the goal here.

[Linzshine32]

Your sway kind of looks like mine and I wasn't considering mine "lite".. .good luck!

[Junie]

If this is your low key, I can't imagine how your other was :D :D it looks good to me.

[Mrs.Ingram]

Perfect!! Thanks, ladies. I'm just worried because I know we cannot afford a personalized plan and this is our last try for a girl of our own...

[atomic sagebrush]

Looks great, I'd skip the abstain since he is walking so far.

I never guess at people's odds of success! Will just wish you the best of luck.

[atomic sagebrush]

I am doing low-fat, that and calories are the two biggest aspects of this diet. But, I'm only getting around 60ish grams of protein per day. Isn't that within LE guidelines?

60 is the top level on the alt. diets. 50 is top level for the standard LE

[atomic sagebrush]

Nope. Haven't started it yet. I'm currently doing a weight loss specific diet, because I know that losing a bunch of weight before getting pregnant is very pink (and I would love to lose 60 pounds, but 80 would be "ideal" for my size). Right now I'm doing low-cal, super low-carb, and a fair amount of protein with herbal drops. I will have switched to LE for about 3-4 weeks when we TTC. Do you think that will hurt our chances? My priority for right now is to lose a fair amount of weight before TTC, so I hope I'm not shooting myself in the foot here.

:agree: anyone with a largeish amount of weight to lose should NOT be doing standard LE anyway. Can you switch to the alt. form of LE instead of standard (slightly higher protein and fat, a bit lower carb, more whole grains and fruit/veg, and low/no empty carbs.)

[atomic sagebrush]

Awesome! Thanks, Hairbows! Hopefully she'll chime in when she gets a minute, but do you remember why she said to exclude the aspirin? Is that recommendation just for pink swayers, or for everyone in general?

a new study that indicated it was not safe and the results have been not good enough to justify any level of risk

[atomic sagebrush]

Yeah, I'm going to cut out caffeine to reduce the likelihood of withdrawal headaches during the first trimester that I experienced with my boys. Plus, I'm really weary (as we often tend to think we need to do the opposite of what we did to conceive our boys) because I was drinking diet energy drinks and diet Pepsi like crazy when I conceived both of them. My husband is going to continue the diet drinks through conception, though.

Oh, and anyone that might know, I have another question: I have found that even when I'm on antihistamines (I have NOT tried sudafed yet), I still have an abundance of CM throughout the month, is there another way to reduce my CM? Should I use a vinegar douche before we BD? I know that the whole pH idea is out the window, but I need something to get rid of all that fluid before we BD.

I do think caff sways pink but at your discretion

Do not use Sudafed, not safe

have you tried the cetirizine/diphenhydramine combo?

I am not a douching fan, but if you really really feel the need, you can use one storebought vinegar and water douche 4-6 hours before planned attempt. Do not use it any sooner even if CM returns.

[Mrs.Ingram]

Oh my goodness, Atomic, thank you so much for your helpful responses. I've been away and haven't seen these until now. You mentioned that since my hubby walks so much that you would not worry about the abstain. What would you suggest instead, just not worrying about how frequently or recently he has released and still DTD at my positive OPK?

[atomic sagebrush]

have him release every 4 days and then go for one attempt unprotected. We are getting good results with that one attempt and the reg. release ensures there will be some good sperm available to make it to the egg with one attempt.