Atomic - Help In the final days! Ttc girl

[Heather boys]

Hi! I have been religiously following the In Gender plan to ttc girl... And I stumbled on this sight today. I am waiting for a positive opk and should be doing the deed within days. What are the major differences between this plan/advice and in gender? Atomic sounds more creditable..! So now I am getting nervous! In a nutshell:
I have been eating a lot of calcium (2% milk and yogurt - too much fat?)'
drinking crystal light like crazy,
strawberries & raspberries (no other fruit),
green beans, cucumber (very little other veg)
rice cakes with almond butter,
raw almonds,
small amounts of lean protein and fish,
no red meat,
cranberry concentrate,
limiting sugar, one cup coffee per day,
Replens "finger" every second day,
all supplements listed on IG (both dh and I),
moderate exercise.
Was planning lime douche and lime tampon.
Ph hasn't gone below 5.3

I am slender and have not lost any weight with this diet. (I didn't eat much prior to ttc though... - always kept my weight in check). Not a good sign?

What is the advice to help my chances for a girl in these final days? Atomic! Please help! Thanks so much.

P.S. I have 2 wonderful boys. I am 39. (Last baby indeed)

[Heather boys]

Also...

Was planning o+12. Apparently Ph is lowest at this stage I the fertility window.. And Ph is less likely to spike unknowingly.

DH has been abstaining for 12 days. (He's ready to kill me!)

[atomic sagebrush]

Boy, this is the type of post that gives me nightmares. (no offense meant, I just really really HATE IG sometimes)

There is a ton of stuff I'd change about your sway. But here's the deal - at 39 as you know already, time is not our friend here and we need to have you in with an attempt every month because we never can tell when "Goldie the Golden Egg" will show up and if she may be the last fresh egg in the carton.

I honestly don't have time today to go over your attempt, if you give me a bump I"ll get back with you tomorrow. Above all else, I BEG YOU not to go for O+12. You may as well take a birth control pill as do that. I urge you have DH clean the pipes IMMEDIATELY and switch to regular release every 2-4 days because if he is also 39 or thereabouts, you are taking risks of birth defects by causing him to produce unhealthy sperm and I think it's risky for a man of any age to abstain much beyond 12-14 days anyway.

Quick fix for this situation is to do one attempt at positive OPK . At least you'll be in with a SHOT of conception. above all else stick with that one attempt till I can get back to you.

[atomic sagebrush]

case against pH here http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/11684-ph-pickle.html
case against O+12 here http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/11684-ph-pickle.html
also strongly suggest you read the trouble with timing essay that is linked in the O+12 essay

[Heather boys]

Thank you so much for the time and for the quick advice. I'll get my husband to clear his pipes immediately.

Do you think my attempt would sway blue based on what you know? Maybe I should adjust diet and try next month. But, as you know, time is not on my side... Turning 40 next month and dreaming of a baby girl.

Thanks again. Really appreciate it.

[atomic sagebrush]

Like I said - for those of us at "a certain age" (and at 44 I'm right there with ya and in fact some distance beyond LOL) I think it behooves you to at least strongly consider TTC this month with one attempt. We never know when it's the last fresh egg in the carton.

[carmella_marie]

I'd also say drop all supplements especially cranberry as we are pretty sure ca
ALL nutrients sway blue!

[atomic sagebrush]

Ok I'm back, I couldn't find this post yesterday and then ran out of time.

1)a brief recap of the origins and differences between this site and IG is here:
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/7507-ig-vs-gd-swaying-whats-difference-who-atomic-sagebrush-anyway.html

short verson of LE Diet is here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-girl/16780-low-everything-diet-nutshell-version.html

I DO think IG Diet sways, because of its highly restrictive nature, but it kind of depends on how much milk you're drinking. I know some ladies doing half-gallons of milk/yogurt every day which is tons of nutrients, protein, cals, etc. and then throwing almonds and fish and lean meat on top of all that...and the IG supps which I'm assuming includes B6 and Vit D...I don't know. The thing is that while I do own a crystal ball, it is in the shop right now awaiting parts to arrive from Timbuktu and no way of knowing when they'll arrive ;) and I just can't SAY whose sway is going to work and whose isn't.

What I do know is that one attempt has gotten great results for us and time is not our friend here. So my gut instinct is for you to immediately drop Vit. D if you are taking it (unlike other nutrients, it is fat soluble and is ok to just drop it because your body has it stored up) and start weaning off B6 if you're taking that (that one, you do need to wean off of) and go for it this month with one attempt. Also drop probiotics for both you and DH because we got perfectly awful results with them and now use only for BLUE.

Can you give me a recap of specifically what supps you're on and I can give you advice on the rest. I think D, B6, and probiotics are the worst of the lot but there are some others that are either unsafe or sway blue so if I know just what you're taking, I can advise on the rest. (some of the supps on IG are for preventing miscarriage supposedly - even though they can CAUSE them! - so not sure exactly what all you're doing)

I would have you increase folic acid to 2000 mcg per day broken into small doses and taken 4-5 times a day (continue thru first trimester then gradually wean off) and 150 iu iodine daily and continue this thru entire pregnancy. I am concerned about the restrictiveness of the IG Diet coming into pregnancy.

If BFN this month, I would have you up exercise to 60 min. per day, 4 days a week minimum and more like 5-6 days may be better.

Not a fan of lime douche and really REALLY not a fan of lime tampon. And I DESPISE O+12 and think it's perfectly terrible advice for anyone over 37. Cautionary tale, when I was on IG some years ago, I was in the "Mature Mamas" support group and we were all in our late 30's at that point. I didn't do O+12 and got pg pretty quick with my 4th son while many of the other gals in the group went on months and even years trying for O+12 and NONE of them ever got pregnant with it. Some of them still do not have babies to this day despite subsequently spending tens of thousands on fertility treatments and I think back on those wasted cycles chasing O+12 and it is heartbreaking. I know a lot of people thought I was an idiot for not doing O+12, but that wasn't why I got my 4th boy and because I got pg quickly I had time to go on to try again and I did get my daughter in the end (one attempt, with perfect BOY timing BTW). It is the one attempt that is swaying and not the O+12, so put that one attempt in a time frame that can actually achieve conception and you'll be golden - you'll get the results of O+12 (which looks like it works only because one attempt works) and yet have a chance at hitting that golden egg! :)

Let me know if I missed anything or any more questions.

[ndeveau]

I just found this site trying to find out if I should continue taking the cal & mag supplements or not and I am completely confused as well! I would like to try in 4 weeks and only started doing some research on swaying recently and just last week started the cal, mag, folic acid and cranberry and eating lots of dairy, raspberries, cucumber, etc. as per the diet suggestions I'd found. Now I'd completely at a loss because this is so different! I was planning to try licorice root for husband and was considering the douche/lime tampon/rePhresh but didn't know because I'd read so much opposite advice and I had read tons of different advice about cut offs and abs vs. freq sex that I hadn't decided what we should do there either. I bought a salt rock and lavender oil, I'm not sure if I believe they work or not, but I already have a little boy and would try anything for a little girl this time. I am 29 so we aren't completely pressed for time but I still do really want to get pregnant again soon. Can you please give me advice on what I should do?? Thanks sooooo much!!

[atomic sagebrush]

please bump this for me

[ndeveau]

Bump

[ndeveau]

Sorry to be impatient, I just have 4 weeks before I want to try so hoping to get started on a proper plan asap :)

I did some reading on this site and have figured out the following:

*switched to the LE diet (am trying at least, I usually eat pretty healthy and find it hard to find things to eat)
*stopped the supplements (except Folic Acid)
*am thinking continue with the plan to have husband use LC after AF (hopefully this weekend)
*will use antihistamines an hour before (just haven't figured out if husband should too, or just me)
*do one attempt 3 days before O (just because we won't be together any closer, hopefully I don't O late!)
*7 day abs maybe? (not 100% sure on that part yet)
*I had ordered the rephresh kit that is supposed to keep PH balanced for 3 days, I know I read PH doesn't seem to matter so I don't know what to do, might just use it the night before we try since I'll have it?
*Hopefully we'll both have time for a hot bath before attempt
*Since it is so close I'm afraid to try to start cardio in case I don't end up doing enough and swaying boy. . but afraid maybe I should, is 50minX4 days/week the min?

Anyone have any thoughts??

Thanks!!

[atomic sagebrush]

tell me more about what you think LE Diet is. Healthy foods can be eaten on LE.

What is LC? there is no supplement I recommend after ovulation.

What kind of antihistamine? Some work better 6-12 hours before attempt.

timing doesn't sway, but if that's when you're together, no worries on tht. would def. drop RepHresh if doing that.

Would not bother with abstain but your call to make on that.

RE cardio - would not bother at this point - may do more harm than good.

Minimum on exercise is 60 min 4x a week.

[ndeveau]

Sorry, I thought I'd replied but I guess it didn't work!

I know it is low cal/fat/protein/nutrient. . I guess it is the low nutrient part that confuses me.

I meant LR, licorice root.

Does matter what antihistamine, I originally thought Sudafed because that's what I'd read, but I read you don't recommend that, what kind would be best?

Turns out AF came today, earlier than expected since I had a positive opk on July 31. . either I misread or I have a short luteal phase where I am breastfeeding, so maybe I can't get pregnant yet anyway! I read that Vitex is good for that and sways girl, is it to late to start that today and take it until ovulation this cycle then try? I'm just afraid as I read it can delay ovulation and with my husband away for work around when I think I might O I don't want to push it too far in to that area.

Thanks again!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Low nutrient just means that you drop or cut back on vitamin supplements (except folic acid/folate), avoid highly fortified foods like breakfast cereal, and if you have the choice between a higher and a lower nutrient fruit/veg, like iceberg lettuce instead of spinach, all things being equal, you pick, the lower nutrient one. It's NOT a starvation diet, low everything does not mean NO everything. It's just lower but still normal nutrient levels.

Any antihistamine is ok. Sudafed is not safe. Some have used cetirizine others diphenhydramine, or some other kind.

AF coming on CD 12 after pos OPK July 31 is not a terribly short LP and I'd just roll with it. I agree vitex may act like gasoline on a fire and shorten your LP even more so while also delaying ovulation.

[eleena2014]

is just one sudafed for dh ok to take a few hours before dtd?

[atomic sagebrush]

Sudafed is fine for DH to take. It is in WOMEN that the link between Sudafed and strokes was found.