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dramabird
July 11th, 2011, 04:21 PM
Yes, it's another Coke question! :) I'd love all of your thoughts on which camp you think caffeine-free Diet Coke falls into:

* "Not harmful for a pink sway; drink it if you just can't quit soda but otherwise don't bother"
* "Helpful for a pink sway; guzzle it and watch that pH plummet!"

In general, I don't drink much pop (and I've *never* been a diet pop drinker and I have two sons). I seem to see quite a bit of anecdotal evidence (both in real life and on the site) that women who drink diet sodas with aspartame get girls.

I find caffeine-free Diet Coke easier to drink than Crystal Lite. But I don't want to pack it into my sway if it's simply *not harmful* ... I want to add it to my sway if it's *helpful*.

Your votes, ladies? Thank you!!

swish
July 11th, 2011, 04:33 PM
I think diet fizzy pop is good for a pink sway, I like 7 up free!

queen-of-harts
July 11th, 2011, 04:43 PM
I kinda think it could really sway pink.I have never been a huge soda drinker only having it when we are at a party or eat pizza and i have alot of boys.

zanacal
July 11th, 2011, 04:55 PM
Well I'm sat here with a great big glass in my hand now! I believe the only reason others say no to caffeine free diet coke is because it isn't completely caffeine free and they believe caffeine is something to stay clear of because it hinders absorption of calcium. I'm not taking extra calcium (either through diet or supplements) so I don't even bother with the caffeine free stuff. I've never been a pop drinker either, except occasionally, and I see many girl mums who are. I also find it really helps to supress the appetite and stops me from snacking in the evenings. If it lowers pH as well then I'm sold :D

swish
July 11th, 2011, 05:02 PM
I was thinking about this, I think alot of girl mums drink diet pop as many of them diet and like zanacal said diet pop helps keep hunger at bay. So if just for that alone I think it's worth it.

DoulaMama
July 11th, 2011, 05:14 PM
UGH:( This is one part of the sway that I'd love to include but I just can't do it.
I have 3 boys....do not drink pop at all...let alone diet pop! I really don't like what I've read about aspartame though, which is the only reason I'm not including it in my sway. I know 3 women with girls who drink diet pop on a regular basis.....I also know many others who have girls, who will not touch the stuff.... I'd say if you're not worried about the artificial sweetener...go for it!!!

purplepoet20
July 11th, 2011, 05:19 PM
I have been drinking diet for awhile and honestly the Diet Coke and Pepsi tasted gross... I ended up drinking Diet Bargs because it doesn't taste like diet.

queen-of-harts
July 11th, 2011, 08:52 PM
I think the diet coke is way more acidifying than other sodas right?

shouldihope?
July 11th, 2011, 10:17 PM
I rarely drank any soda with my boys either. Maybe a few times a year. I have been drinking it for my sway. When I heard caffeine free diet cola did the trick for other sways I figured it was the opposite of what I usually do. Maybe it will be different enough?

mandicane
July 12th, 2011, 08:56 PM
So should I drink caffine free diet coke or just regular diet coke?

Mochagirl
July 13th, 2011, 09:53 AM
I think the diet coke is way more acidifying than other sodas right?

I was just going to ask this: would a different diet pop work just as well?

purplepoet20
July 13th, 2011, 10:16 AM
It is best to drink Caffine Free....

I couldn't stomach coke and pepsi porducts but I noticed after drinking Diet Bargs for the 2wks before O time that my ph dropped from 6.5 to 5.0 so it worked for me.

Flava
July 13th, 2011, 10:48 AM
I don't know really. But I have 4 girls and use to drink diet pepsi none stop. Not with DD4 there was very little soda with her.

zanacal
July 13th, 2011, 11:17 AM
It depends whether you're excluding caffeine from your girl diet - I am not so I'm not drinking caffeine free diet coke.

mydream
July 13th, 2011, 11:28 AM
Do you have to totally exclude the caffeine from your diet? I was never a diet coke drinker or any caffeine and I gotta tell you I had two boys with no caffeine.

queen-of-harts
July 13th, 2011, 12:17 PM
I rarely drink caffeinated soda and never drink coffee or tea and still got boys so im not so sure caffeine is a deal breaker on the pink camp.

mydream
July 13th, 2011, 01:54 PM
ok, Im going with the diet coke- with the caffeine.

zanacal
July 13th, 2011, 02:10 PM
Lots of caffeine (for both DW and DH) can lower fertility and lower fertility overall sways pink. Other diets exclude caffeine because it hinders the absorption of calcium which they feel is important - but I am not eating a high calcium diet or taking calcium supplements so this doesn't matter to me.

atomic sagebrush
July 15th, 2011, 08:48 AM
Yes, it's another Coke question! :) I'd love all of your thoughts on which camp you think caffeine-free Diet Coke falls into:

* "Not harmful for a pink sway; drink it if you just can't quit soda but otherwise don't bother"
* "Helpful for a pink sway; guzzle it and watch that pH plummet!"

In general, I don't drink much pop (and I've *never* been a diet pop drinker and I have two sons). I seem to see quite a bit of anecdotal evidence (both in real life and on the site) that women who drink diet sodas with aspartame get girls.

I find caffeine-free Diet Coke easier to drink than Crystal Lite. But I don't want to pack it into my sway if it's simply *not harmful* ... I want to add it to my sway if it's *helpful*.

Your votes, ladies? Thank you!!

I think it's TOTALLY helpful for a pink sway and I find Crystal Light leaves a bad taste in my mouth but diet pop doesn't. Not only does it have artificial sweetener in it but the carbonation is also acidifying.

The reason why it's listed as girl-unfriendly (as Zanacal pointed out, thank you!) is because carbonation/caffeine is rumored to block calcium absorption, but both ideas have been debunked...you would have to drink several gallons a day for months to have any affect on your bones at all.

Whether or not you choose caffeinated pop is up to you. I have seen a lot of women (inc. my mom and MIL) who drink a LOT of caffeine, prob. more than any of us do, and have both boys and girls. The Oxford study found no connection between caffeine and gender of baby conceived.

atomic sagebrush
July 15th, 2011, 08:56 AM
Do you have to totally exclude the caffeine from your diet? I was never a diet coke drinker or any caffeine and I gotta tell you I had two boys with no caffeine.

The traditional sway info bans caffeine for pink sways BUT as I said in my previous post, the Oxford study found no connection between maternal caffeine intake and practically ALL the anecdotal evidence I have seen is that if caffeine sways at all, it sways PINK not blue. Almost to a one, all the people I know who are caffeine/soda junkies have girls and people who don't do a lot of caffeine have boys.

mis2ninos
July 15th, 2011, 01:50 PM
thanks for this info. It was true for me. I conceived my DD drinking about 2 regular cokes a day and coffee in the morning.

mandicane
July 15th, 2011, 07:35 PM
Thanks so much. So happy to hear that i don't have to give up coffee...phew!

zanacal
July 16th, 2011, 03:18 AM
mandicane - I think we should still limit coffee and tea if we can because they contain healthy antioxidants which aren't so good for a girl sway. I have 2 cups of coffee a day before I switch to the diet pepsi :D

mandicane
July 16th, 2011, 08:58 PM
Humm...good to know. I will limit my intake to two cups a day max. I only drink one a day so that shouldn't be a problem. Thanks for the info.

atomic sagebrush
July 17th, 2011, 11:25 AM
Good point Zana! Thank you!

Flava
July 18th, 2011, 01:13 PM
Whether or not you choose caffeinated pop is up to you. I have seen a lot of women (inc. my mom and MIL) who drink a LOT of caffeine, prob. more than any of us do, and have both boys and girls. The Oxford study found no connection between caffeine and gender of baby conceived.
This is good to know because me and DH we both drink 1 coffee on the morning. And we just don't want to give up this little extra we have. (with little real sugar and whole milk in it)

Navywife620
July 20th, 2011, 11:04 PM
I have a question about caffeine, what about DH I remember the original diet said no caffeine for DH too. Can he drink regular diet coke instead of caffeine free?

zanacal
July 21st, 2011, 08:13 AM
I believe no caffeine for DH is for the same reason the IG diet says no caffeine for DW. My DH is making no change to his caffeine intake - too much caffeine lowers fertility and lower fertility is good for a girl sway.

atomic sagebrush
July 22nd, 2011, 11:53 AM
It's a bit diff. for DH because some studies have shown that caffeine drunk an hour before BD can make sperm livelier but that doesn't mean that they're more likely to conceive a boy.

My DH drinks a moderate amount of caffeine and has the 4 boys but our neighbor with 3 girls (he works with my husband so we have a lot of info about him LOLOLOL) is one of those guys who drinks tons of energy drinks. In fact a lot of the guys at my husband's work drink those big energy drinks all day long and have tons of girls.

Princess of Pink
July 23rd, 2011, 05:38 PM
I have drunk diet coke my entire life! I was always a firm believer of not wanting to drink my calories...I would rather eat them hehehehehe. I have never had a coffee or tea as I hate the taste. I drink either water or diet coke (now and then Pepsi Max) and lots of both.

And BTW...my hubby guzzles the energy drinks too! He also is not a coffee/tea drinker.

atomic sagebrush
July 24th, 2011, 11:26 AM
Thank you POP! Very helpful!!!

mis2ninos
July 26th, 2011, 07:33 PM
I saw a picture of one of my friends on facebook today...she has 3 girls and it was a picture of one of her girls but in the background was a case of coke.....lol I want to be like sooooo ummm do YOU drink all that coke? :loopyface:

nicnee1976
July 27th, 2011, 11:13 AM
I drank caffeine free diet coke to lower my pH. It did the trick, but I can't tell you whether it was successful in gettingmy pink bean or not. Won't know that for another 19 weeks!

Lilian78
July 27th, 2011, 08:56 PM
I think it's TOTALLY helpful for a pink sway and I find Crystal Light leaves a bad taste in my mouth but diet pop doesn't. Not only does it have artificial sweetener in it but the carbonation is also acidifying.

The reason why it's listed as girl-unfriendly (as Zanacal pointed out, thank you!) is because carbonation/caffeine is rumored to block calcium absorption, but both ideas have been debunked...you would have to drink several gallons a day for months to have any affect on your bones at all.

Whether or not you choose caffeinated pop is up to you. I have seen a lot of women (inc. my mom and MIL) who drink a LOT of caffeine, prob. more than any of us do, and have both boys and girls. The Oxford study found no connection between caffeine and gender of baby conceived.

This is probably the only thing so far I've heard that I actually like about pink swaying LOL. I'm a big coffee and diet soda person . . . of course I have boys, but at least I won't have to worry about giving up my diet coke :)

As for the whole caffeine or no caffeine thing, thought I'd add that there's really not that much in a caffeinated soda (maybe 40 mg in one can--so you'd have to drink 3ish to equal an average cup of coffee, I think).

atomic sagebrush
July 29th, 2011, 10:54 AM
I drank caffeine free diet coke to lower my pH. It did the trick, but I can't tell you whether it was successful in gettingmy pink bean or not. Won't know that for another 19 weeks!

Congrats!!! KFX for you!!!!

atomic sagebrush
July 29th, 2011, 10:54 AM
This is probably the only thing so far I've heard that I actually like about pink swaying LOL. I'm a big coffee and diet soda person . . . of course I have boys, but at least I won't have to worry about giving up my diet coke :)

As for the whole caffeine or no caffeine thing, thought I'd add that there's really not that much in a caffeinated soda (maybe 40 mg in one can--so you'd have to drink 3ish to equal an average cup of coffee, I think).

Thank you for that info!!! appreciate it!!!

annabel♥lee
August 20th, 2011, 07:51 PM
Atomic - do you feel that Diet Coke sways enough to counteract the blue sway of Preseed?

atomic sagebrush
August 21st, 2011, 03:56 PM
It sways differently...I'm not sure I can quantify it quite that way.

Preseed sways blue by maximizing sperm survival in the vagina before they make it into the cervix, but Diet Coke sways pink by actually making the CM more acidic and also by having a beneficial (for pink, that is) effect on blood sugar, keeping it on the low side. So if you're doing a lot of other stuff to lower your husband's sperm count to begin with (such as jump and dump, abstinence/frequent release, DH taking licorice) and stuff to reduce the viability of sperm after the fact (like antihistamines, baby aspirin, TTC girl diet) it makes a lot of sense to try and keep at least SOME sperm alive in the VJ so they can make it into the cervix where most of them are going to die in the hostile CM (and you might want to give Preseed a try if you're not getting pg.)

With Diet Coke, if your DH won't sway to begin with (so his count stays high) or you are making more CM or have higher pH than you would like even though you're taking antihistamines, supps, dieting, etc. then Diet Coke makes more sense than the Preseed does. Because your husband's sperm are starting out higher in number and with a higher survivability rate, so Preseed would probably only increase the blue-friendliness of the VJ and you want something working for you on the inside so you would def. want to do Diet Coke.

So if you're asking me if I think that Diet Coke can undo some of what Preseed does, yes, I actually kinda do. But if the reason why you're not getting pg is because your CM is just too hostile for ANY sperm to survive, you can use Preseed but it may not help the situation (in terms of getting pg) if you're tossing a big bunch of Diet Coke into the mix and making your CM even more hostile. It's like you have to diagnose what is really happening and where the sperm are taking such heavy losses...is it in the VJ and they never even make it into the cervix, where they would survive if they could get there (in which case do Preseed and the Diet Coke may help) or is it after they get into the cervix (in which case Preseed might sway TOO blue, but Diet Coke would only make things worse) or is it both?? (in which case Preseed would be a good idea but NOT Diet Coke.)

I hope that makes sense, my children are rioting right now and I got interrupted a lot!!! :/

jennibel
August 22nd, 2011, 03:49 PM
I drink diet coke or coke zero every day, at least 1 can a day and have 2 boys

momto4boyz
September 21st, 2011, 01:47 PM
I think Im going to pass on soda all together. I am a big coke drinker, and have 4 boys. Im scared to drink any soda lol

queen-of-harts
September 21st, 2011, 06:03 PM
I think diet coke is likely great for pink but if your eating off the blue diet,high in testosterone ect and you have a few cokes a day i doubt it will matter at all bc your doing more for blue.Like Atomic said its not just doing the opposite of what you did when you got preggo with your boys bc sometimes doing the opposite will make you even moreboy friendly. There are many things i plan to change but some i will keep the same even after 6 boys if there is evidence it helps pink.

atomic sagebrush
September 23rd, 2011, 04:36 PM
I drink diet coke or coke zero every day, at least 1 can a day and have 2 boys

Sorry I jsut now saw this!

If your body stays boy friendly despite this, you'll have boys. It's not doing or not not doing (? LOL ?) any one particular thing that sways, it's what your body does as a reaction to those things you do or don't do. So one person may be able to drink a gallon of DC every day and her body is able to overcome that due to other factors, while another person drinks half-a-glass and gets a girl from it.

Diet Coke and Coke Zero sway pink, not blue. Even if people have conceived baby boys while drinking it.

atomic sagebrush
September 23rd, 2011, 04:39 PM
I think diet coke is likely great for pink but if your eating off the blue diet,high in testosterone ect and you have a few cokes a day i doubt it will matter at all bc your doing more for blue.Like Atomic said its not just doing the opposite of what you did when you got preggo with your boys bc sometimes doing the opposite will make you even moreboy friendly. There are many things i plan to change but some i will keep the same even after 6 boys if there is evidence it helps pink.

Thank you!!! Couldn't ahve said it better!

If drinking pop is something you've always done and it's scary to you to drink it, by all means leave it out. But it's very probable that it's your diet as a whole that was swaying and not any one food/drink that made the difference.

Protein + carbs sways blue, as does eating/drinking frequently throughout the day. Blood sugar stays level for the entire day. So pop as a part of an overall blue friendly diet, only makes you more blue friendly.

atomic sagebrush
December 7th, 2011, 09:23 AM
It is best to drink Caffine Free....

I couldn't stomach coke and pepsi porducts but I noticed after drinking Diet Bargs for the 2wks before O time that my ph dropped from 6.5 to 5.0 so it worked for me.

Just caught this but Barq's DOES HAVE caffeine (or at least it used to.) It is one of the few root beers with caffeine as my husband and I found out after several horrific experiences giving Barq's to DS 1 and 2 when they were younger on car trips. o.O

envisioned
December 9th, 2011, 06:54 PM
With DD1 my entire diet and lifestyle was so typical girl diet (this was before I actually really believed in the diet having a true effect :nono: ) and I drank so much Diet Gingerale that it wasn"t even funny. And at a lot of pickles. And drank chocolate milk.

DD2 is where it all goes wrong. Diet was diff. Gave up the diet anything drinks (with some sneaking in).

atomic sagebrush
December 10th, 2011, 09:19 AM
There is a luck factor at play and also what your husband brings to the table!!!

Plus, if as you seemed to indicate on another thread, you did the IG Diet - I honestly think it's miraculous that anyone gets a boy eating that unhealthy a diet, KWIM??

sweetpea
February 22nd, 2012, 03:05 PM
This is a really interesting thread! :agree:

I'm wondering...does ANY kind of diet pop sway pink? Or does Diet Coke do it the best? I'm not at all a big pop drinker (probably one of the many reasons why I have two boys!), but I do kind of like Dr. Pepper. If I started drinking Diet Dr. Pepper, would that help sway pink just as well as Diet Coke does?

Wishing4Princess
February 22nd, 2012, 03:30 PM
Well I'm sat here with a great big glass in my hand now! I believe the only reason others say no to caffeine free diet coke is because it isn't completely caffeine free and they believe caffeine is something to stay clear of because it hinders absorption of calcium. I'm not taking extra calcium (either through diet or supplements) so I don't even bother with the caffeine free stuff. I've never been a pop drinker either, except occasionally, and I see many girl mums who are. I also find it really helps to supress the appetite and stops me from snacking in the evenings. If it lowers pH as well then I'm sold :D

Totally agree Zana, I too was not a coke/diet coke drinker before. I only drank it once in a while w/ pizza or at parties and if I had it alone w/out food I would totally gag and hardly could finish 1/2 can (oppositie of every girl mom I know). I have 2 boys. being on the LE diet (for 8+wks), I have started to add 2 diet cokes (caffeine free) 2 my meals each day. I am really starting to enjoy it and somedays crave it lol..it does suppress hunger for me and totally lowers my PH..I gave it to DH as well..lowered his PH as well:)

amari
February 23rd, 2012, 12:11 AM
This is a really interesting thread! :agree:

I'm wondering...does ANY kind of diet pop sway pink? Or does Diet Coke do it the best? I'm not at all a big pop drinker (probably one of the many reasons why I have two boys!), but I do kind of like Dr. Pepper. If I started drinking Diet Dr. Pepper, would that help sway pink just as well as Diet Coke does?

I think so, but not totally sure...

atomic sagebrush
February 23rd, 2012, 12:53 AM
This is a really interesting thread! :agree:

I'm wondering...does ANY kind of diet pop sway pink? Or does Diet Coke do it the best? I'm not at all a big pop drinker (probably one of the many reasons why I have two boys!), but I do kind of like Dr. Pepper. If I started drinking Diet Dr. Pepper, would that help sway pink just as well as Diet Coke does?

Anything with Splenda, Acesulfamate K, or aspartame :agree: Avoid anything with Truvia/Stevia (Zevia and also Safeway has a stevia-sweetened brand. Stevia may sway blue.

I find Diet Dr. P gives me really bad headaches.

sweetpea
February 23rd, 2012, 01:41 AM
Anything with Splenda, Acesulfamate K, or aspartame :agree: Avoid anything with Truvia/Stevia (Zevia and also Safeway has a stevia-sweetened brand. Stevia may sway blue.

I find Diet Dr. P gives me really bad headaches.

I'll try the Diet Dr. Pepper and see how it goes, since I like the taste much better than Coke or Pepsi. If I have problems with it (headaches or anything else), then I'll try switching to Diet Coke instead. Thanks! :)

clarabell
March 5th, 2012, 04:02 PM
Wow I love diet coke, does it have to be caffine free? Or is normal diet coke ok. When I was TTC DD and got boy I didn't drink loads of it but sure did when I was pregnant. Maybe next time when on girl diet.

Wishing4Princess
March 5th, 2012, 09:21 PM
Clarabell, how much did you drink when you were TTC girl? how many oz/cans?

mydream
March 6th, 2012, 06:43 PM
Clarabell- diet coke W/ Caffeine is fine ...that's what I'm drinking and never did with my boys

dee
March 7th, 2012, 04:43 PM
oooh i drink loads of diet coke or pepsi max hope it helps me sway for a girl

atomic sagebrush
March 9th, 2012, 01:09 PM
Wow I love diet coke, does it have to be caffine free? Or is normal diet coke ok. When I was TTC DD and got boy I didn't drink loads of it but sure did when I was pregnant. Maybe next time when on girl diet.

Sorry somehow I never spotted this! :/ Never be afraid to give a post a bump, I try to respond to all q's as quick as I can.

Regular diet Coke with caffeine is fine to drink for a pink sway. The whole "avoid caff. for pink" is based on bad info that has been debunked.

pinkprincess85
March 9th, 2012, 06:16 PM
WOW- what an interesting read! ATOMIC SAGEBRUSH, I have a few questions that i'm totally confused about lol, firstly we've been ttc since oct 2011, i started out following the strict girl diet but just couldn't do it and since jan im actually on weight watchers! i've been taking calcium,magnesium +cranberry supps (+ folic acid) I've got dh taking calcium supps and tomorrow im off out to get some licqorice root + sudafed. I've just started drinking caffeine-free diet coke + regular milkshakes (nesquik) and dh has dropped his very caffeine-heavy drinks for juice. we have 3 boys and the few things i can link to all 3 just before i got pregnant were - my diet was naff + carb heavy! and the only drinks i drank all day were regular coke + red rooster/red bull! i've never drank milk in my life because it makes me gag and my diet hardly had any calcium rich foods if any at all! i'm literally turning against everything i did that got me my 3 boys.
Looking at all of that would you say i was ok to do all of that or do you think thats all boy friendly? im on the uk thread in the forums and most of them are hard-core girl dieters (from ig) and over 50% of them are now having boys hence my change of diet/way of thinking.

clarabell
March 11th, 2012, 03:20 PM
hi pinkprinces and all,

We sound so alike, I am also in the UK, just down the coast from you with my three boys, aged 8, 5, and 5 months. I didn't know about these sites when I was ttc the third time but had read snips on the net. So I tried to drink milk shakes and eat a yogurt every day, I took calc., mag and LydiaPinkman. We DTD up to O using ov strips but not sure we even got that right. With my second and third son I tried the Shettles method of DTD lots and then stop, the complete opposite to the 12+O theory. I love diet coke but didn't drink much whilst ttc, didn't know about it then. Plus my DH didn't help in any ways other than the obvious, he would have taken supps but I didn't know so much then. I look forward to reading about the diet, I too am on Weight Watchers but not doing so well. When the time comes when I ttc again I will be strict as I can. Just got to work on DH. I will also be so scared as I know it will be our last (I bullied him into number 3 so guess I am pushing my luck, plus my body kinda knackered !) Good luck to you all, I know how desperate you can feel to want a girl (by the way three of my friends have had girls in the last two weeks I feel so guilty to feel a tinge of jelousy, not fair stamping my feet !)

zanacal
March 11th, 2012, 04:25 PM
Hi Pinkprincess - the girl diet Atomic devised and which many of us on this Board follow is the Low Everything diet and it's quite different to the IG diet. The full details are in the Dream Member section but it's low protein (and vegetarian), low calorie, low fat and low nutrient. There are no 'magic' foods so long as you stick to the overall principles but it's also advised to skip breakfast and eat only 2 or 3 times each day to keep blood sugar levels lower for longer.

In line with the 'low nutrient' theory, many choose to take baby aspirin instead of Cranberry for acidity. It also has the advantage that you don't need to stop and start it all the time (you can't take Cranberry in the 2ww) and it's much cheaper!

You'll need to make sure your Nesquick is saved for meal times because drinking drinks with calories in between meals will elevate your blood sugar levels (so the diet coke is ok). This would also have applied to your full fat coke and energy drinks (full fat coke is ok on the LE diet but with meals, not throughout the day!) You may also find that the Nesquick is high in protein (milk is high in protein) and that you'd rather save your allowance for real food! I personally wouldn't worry about DH's caffeinated drinks - I certainly didn't!

Atomic doesn't believe that high calcium is good for a girl. I'll post links to those threads in a moment!

Here you go - this is the first in the series (there are 3 with links at the end of each):

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-girl/610-calcium-conundrum-controversial.html

atomic sagebrush
March 12th, 2012, 10:15 AM
Hi PinkPrincess85!

We do things a little differently around here and you can read why that is here: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-discussion/7507-ig-vs-gd-swaying-whats-difference-who-atomic-sagebrush-anyway.html

Zana posted the link about calcium and swaying already which will answer many of your questions. My concern with your diet and why I prefer the LE Diet to IG Diet, is that according to the Trivers-Willard Hypothesis, high maternal nutrient intake and improving/high maternal condition, should lead to more male offspring being born. This was independently corroborated a couple years ago by a study from Oxford University where they found moms who went onto conceive sons, ate more calories and also all nutrients including calcium and magnesium, than moms who went onto conceive girls did. The guidelines for my LE Diet is 1500-1800 cals, 40-50 g protein, 20-30% fat (25-60 g depending on how many cals you eat) 700-1000 mg sodium, 2500-3500 mg potassium.

I drank tons of dairy my whole life and had 4 boys doing it, my last a failed sway where I was taking really high doses of cal, mag, vit D. My mom never drank milk or ate dairy and had mostly girls. Remember, all failed pink IG sways were to people taking/eating tons of dairy...cal/mag can't be a magic bullet or there would be no failed sways!

My concern with your diet as it is right now is that the Nesquik milkshakes are very high in cals and protein (and if they contain fat, fat as well) Your body uses those raw materials to manufacture testosterone and estrogen and also the protein + sugar in the milk keeps your blood sugar elevated for a long time after drinking it, which favors boy conceptions. If you are really sold on cal-mag, it might be best to take it as a supplement rather than getting it thru foods.

Caff vs. no caff does not seem to do anything at all. The Oxford study found no difference between moms who conceived sons vs. daughters in terms of caff intake. In fact, we have observed a trend where guys who drink a lot of caffeine, actually father more daughters because caffeine is harmful to sperm.

Red Bull is loaded with vitamins so when you were drinking them regularly, it was providing your body with a big shot of nutrients regularly.

I'm sorry I am not familiar with the word "naff" but there ARE no magic foods. You can conceive a boy eating carbs if your overall nutrient intake, cals, etc. are high and your condition is good.

I understand the feeling of wanting to "do the opposite" but you must realize, sometimes doing what feels like the opposite, is actually WORSE than what you were doing to begin with. If you didn't lose weight on the Atkins Diet, it may have been because you needed to exercise or were eating too many calories overall. The solution to not losing weight on Atkins is NOT to do the opposite and start eating nothing but birthday cake, that's even WORSE. You have to understand the actual reasons WHY you have conceived boys and change those...and if a high caloric intake/higher blood sugar is one of those reasons, then switching from calories from carbs to calories from milk, will not help you at all and will actually be worse than if you had done nothing because you'll also be getting more fat/protein/nutrients from the milk!

zanacal
March 12th, 2012, 01:24 PM
Naff just means rubbish/poor :D

atomic sagebrush
March 13th, 2012, 10:25 AM
Got it, thank you! :) So a lot of biscuits, crisps, and chips LOL

here_we_go!
April 10th, 2012, 08:40 PM
Great thread! My question is, is Crystal Light just as good at lowering pH as Diet Coke or Coke Zero? I'm not fond of either, but want to up my chances of pink any way I can! Thanks!

atomic sagebrush
April 11th, 2012, 08:44 PM
Crystal Light is supposed to be quite good at lowering pH BUT it doesn't have the carbonated water which does lower pH.

It's totally up to you what you prefer, no reason not to have both as a change of pace! The important thing is the aspartame which is in both.

pink carol
June 7th, 2012, 03:46 AM
British dancer Darcey Bussell is a confessed Diet Coke addict and has two girls.

My three best friends also guzzle down Coke like water and have girls.

But then I also added Diet Coke to my sway and I'm expecting DS2...

atomic sagebrush
June 7th, 2012, 11:46 AM
Unfortunately none of these things are guarantees. It's not so much about finding the one magic bullet that makes people conceive girls, it's that your overall physical condition and what is going on in your body is what is actually swaying. Diet Coke and in fact pop as a whole, is not great for health or fertility, and so for many people in less than ideal health and/or with less than ideal fertility, Diet Coke/Coke is just another thing that they're doing that makes them more pink friendly.

If a person is in good overall health, they can shake off the Diet Coke and still conceive boys while drinking it. And I certainly got boys whilst imbibing large quantities of Dr. Pepper!! A sway is the sum of the whole and not just any one of the parts. :) Thanks for sharing your experience!

Mumness
June 10th, 2012, 06:07 PM
Sprite zero ok??

Sunflower3
June 10th, 2012, 08:49 PM
I conceived ds1 while drinking lots of diet coke (up to 6-7 cans a day). But my diet was completely different from the LE diet. I will be including diet coke in my sway.

ThroughWithBlue
June 10th, 2012, 09:56 PM
I love soda, drank pepsi Max (loads of caffine i know) with DS1 and DS2 was pepsi diet. I also am a caffine fiend. I think it's caffine that sways. If I'm not eating much soda does fill me up I plan on drinking diet caff free coke or pepsi and stopping around O.

atomic sagebrush
June 12th, 2012, 05:20 PM
Sprite zero ok??

Yep.

atomic sagebrush
June 12th, 2012, 05:25 PM
I love soda, drank pepsi Max (loads of caffine i know) with DS1 and DS2 was pepsi diet. I also am a caffine fiend. I think it's caffine that sways. If I'm not eating much soda does fill me up I plan on drinking diet caff free coke or pepsi and stopping around O.

The idea that caffeine sways blue has been debunked (it does not affect calcium levels or cause bone loss) and several of us have gotten girls while drinking quite a bit.

Caffeine reduces fertility overall, esp. in higher doses (note, no one OD on caff to get a girl, it's not necessary). So to go from drinking caff to drinking none, may backfire and actually boost your fertility.

trying in spring
June 14th, 2012, 05:42 AM
I've just seen this thread - so interesting. I've never drunk much fizzy drinks, but have been going through bottles of diet coke/7up free over the past few months!

Can i ask a couple of questions. I drink a cup or two of tea during the day as well as diet coke. I don't eat between lunch and dinner, but is it ok to drink diet coke at this time? Am i not raising my blood sugar by drinking it? Don't know how i'd get through til dinner without having something to drink to fill me up a bit!

Second question, did you say that carbs = boy? I'm keeping in the amounts for the le diet but am getting most of my cal/pro from wraps with swiss/goats cheese and lettuce for lunch and rice with veg for dinner.

atomic sagebrush
June 14th, 2012, 11:42 AM
Tea is fine, coffee ~may~ be marginally better.

As long as something contains no sugar, it doesn't raise your blood sugar. Diet Coke between meals is fine.

No, I didn't say carbs sway boy. Protein + carbs together sway boy and carbs eaten constantly throughout the whole day also sway blue (because blood sugar stays up), while empty carbs, skipping breakfast and no snacking sways pink because your blood sugar rises temporarily after eating them but then drops very low.

The only pink swayers who need to watch/limit carbs are those with PCOS and insulin resistance.

trying in spring
June 15th, 2012, 06:06 AM
thank you, sorry skim reading and misread you x

tryingfornumberfour
June 15th, 2012, 03:37 PM
I don't drink soda hardly ever. Maybe like once a month or once every three months. But when I do I would never drink diet and I have three girls. Probably doesn't matter but it could....